Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Syndi T]

Hi Shirley,

Thank you for sending that information.  I was wondering if that  was from the 
passport log or another document? I'm still learning and a little confused with 
all of the various sites so I wanted to be clear. Thank you for your help. 

Syndi



On Friday, March 21, 2014 5:39:06 PM UTC-3, Shirley Allegre wrote:
> The Bell Rock arrived in Hawaii about 3 Nov. 
> 1883.
> 
>  
> 
> Shirley in CA
> 
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> - Original Message - 
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> From: 
>   Cheri Mello 
>   
>   
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> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira 
>   from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii
>   
> 
> 
>   
> Syndi,
> 
> The 3 pieces for genealogy are a name, a date, a 
>   place.  The place is usually the hardest, but you have that.  What's 
>   the date on the Bell Rock manifest?
> 
>   
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Shirley Allegre]

The Bell Rock arrived in Hawaii about 3 Nov. 1883.

Shirley in CA
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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel 
island to Hawaii


  Syndi,

  The 3 pieces for genealogy are a name, a date, a place.  The place is usually 
the hardest, but you have that.  What's the date on the Bell Rock manifest?


  Cheri Mello
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Achada 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Syndi T]

Hi Cheri and Maria,

Thank your or the link and clarification.  I have joined familysearch.org 
and I located the FHC on my island.  They are open 2 days a week and it is 
the same place I went to years ago as a child with my grandmother.  I know 
most or their records were lost to a fire so I hope they can help me 
further my search.

Thank you again for your kind responses.

Mahalo,
Syndi



On Friday, March 21, 2014 6:36:16 AM UTC-10, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> No, the LDS.org site is the part that deals with the religion.  To deal 
> with genealogy and family history, you go to the LDS's genealogy site at 
> www.familysearch.org.
>
> Since they've redesigned their FamilySearch Web site, I have no idea of 
> how to navigate to the FHC Locations page.  A google search pulled up this: 
> https://familysearch.org/locations/centerlocator
>
> Every FHC will be open different days and different hours.  Mine is open 
> Monday through Saturday.  Others are open only a couple of days a week.  So 
> you will need to check the one nearest you for hours.  And if you live in 
> an area with weather, such as snow, that will affect the operating hours as 
> well.
>
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> Tainhas, Achada 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Maria Lima]

Yes, I said the Lds. Org because that's been where I've gone to find a 
meetinghouse when I travel.  But I just checked the familysearch.org link you 
sent and that works great.  

I  just tried entering a city and state anywhere and Voila! The map showed the 
centers and when you hold the cursor over the area you want, the address pops 
up.  At first I just saw the map and didn't see the search bar at the top.  
That's great!  Nice shortcut .  Thanks, Cheri. 

Maria Elena 

> On Mar 21, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> No, the LDS.org site is the part that deals with the religion.  To deal with 
> genealogy and family history, you go to the LDS's genealogy site at 
> www.familysearch.org.
> 
> Since they've redesigned their FamilySearch Web site, I have no idea of how 
> to navigate to the FHC Locations page.  A google search pulled up this: 
> https://familysearch.org/locations/centerlocator
> 
> Every FHC will be open different days and different hours.  Mine is open 
> Monday through Saturday.  Others are open only a couple of days a week.  So 
> you will need to check the one nearest you for hours.  And if you live in an 
> area with weather, such as snow, that will affect the operating hours as well.
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Cheri Mello]

No, the LDS.org site is the part that deals with the religion.  To deal
with genealogy and family history, you go to the LDS's genealogy site at
www.familysearch.org.

Since they've redesigned their FamilySearch Web site, I have no idea of how
to navigate to the FHC Locations page.  A google search pulled up this:
https://familysearch.org/locations/centerlocator

Every FHC will be open different days and different hours.  Mine is open
Monday through Saturday.  Others are open only a couple of days a week.  So
you will need to check the one nearest you for hours.  And if you live in
an area with weather, such as snow, that will affect the operating hours as
well.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Maria Lima]

Go to LDS.org (the church's website) to  locate  family history center closest 
to you.  They're closed on Mondays but usually there will be people there to 
answer the phone and help you get started from around 9-3 from Tuesday to 
Friday and Saturdays afternoon.  They were very helpful to me. 

Maria Elena 


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> On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> FHC = Family History Center. They are located at many of the Churches of 
> Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) or Mormons.  They are open to the 
> public.  You do not need to be LDS to use them.
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Syndi T]

Aloha Aaron,

Thank you so much for the information! I was able to open the first link to the 
photo of the page. I was unable to open the other links ( it went to the home 
page). I will take your advice and contact them. Thank you again. 

Syndi





On Friday, March 21, 2014 4:05:12 AM UTC-3, Aaron Pereira wrote:
>   Here is the passport list from Ponta Delgada:  http://goo.gl/3Og2JO    your 
> ancestors are near the bottom of the page.  
> 
> The emigration notation document can be found here:  Câmara Municipal da 
> Ribeira Grande, MUSEU DA EMIGRAÇÃO AÇORIANA...link: 
> http://mea.cm-ribeiragrande.pt/?p=p  
> search tab: Requerimentos séc. XIX   
> if you find there's a mix up of the document, use the "contact us" tab, and 
> email them about the document mix up.  I had a few that were incorrectly 
> indexed and I emailed them.  They sent me pdf's of the correct documents in a 
> week or so.  I think they have a Francisco Barrela document where your Manuel 
> should be.  What I mean is the link reads Manuel Teixeira, but the document 
> is not his.  Research it a bit more and see what you can come up with.
> 
> These are nice documents to add to your family collection...and they may give 
> you additional clues.  When I initially located one of my ancestors from the 
> Ponta Delgada passport registration list, is listed her as being from Ribeira 
> Grande.  So, I thought I would either have to wait for the CCA to post RG 
> records or order the microfilm from LDS,  Then one day someone posted a link 
> to the emigration records.  I found my ancestor's document; and it listed her 
> as living in Rabo de Peixe but a native of Achada Grande. From that 
> information I've worked back as far as I can go with her direct lineage.
> 
> One more link for you:  this is actually from the CCA website, it's 
> information that's found on the passport registration.  It's easier if you 
> search through the advance search tab.  All 5 of your ancestor were listed 
> here:  http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/
> 
> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:29:10 PM UTC-7, Syndi T wrote:
> 
> Thank you Cheri.  I will definitely look into it tomorrow. I know I visited 
> our local LDS many years ago but all of their records were destroyed in a 
> fire. I will see if they can direct me to another center. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, March 21, 2014 1:21:10 AM UTC-3, Cheri Mello wrote:
> 
> > FHC = Family History Center. They are located at many of the Churches of 
> > Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) or Mormons.  They are open to the 
> > public.  You do not need to be LDS to use them.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Cheri Mello
> 
> > Listowner, Azores-Gen
> 
> > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> > Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Aaron Pereira]

  Here is the passport list from Ponta Delgada:  http://goo.gl/3Og2JO
your ancestors are near the bottom of the page.  

The emigration notation document can be found here:  Câmara Municipal da 
Ribeira Grande, MUSEU DA EMIGRAÇÃO AÇORIANA...link: 
http://mea.cm-ribeiragrande.pt/?p=p  
search tab: Requerimentos séc. XIX  
 

if you find there's a mix up of the document, use the "contact us" tab, and 
email them about the document mix up.  I had a few that were incorrectly 
indexed and I emailed them.  They sent me pdf's of the correct documents in 
a week or so.  I think they have a Francisco Barrela document where your 
Manuel should be.  What I mean is the link reads Manuel Teixeira, but the 
document is not his.  Research it a bit more and see what you can come up 
with.

These are nice documents to add to your family collection...and they may 
give you additional clues.  When I initially located one of my ancestors 
from the Ponta Delgada passport registration list, is listed her as being 
from Ribeira Grande.  So, I thought I would either have to wait for the CCA 
to post RG records or order the microfilm from LDS,  Then one day someone 
posted a link to the emigration records.  I found my ancestor's document; 
and it listed her as living in Rabo de Peixe but a native of Achada Grande. 
>From that information I've worked back as far as I can go with her direct 
lineage.

One more link for you:  this is actually from the CCA website, it's 
information that's found on the passport registration.  It's easier if you 
search through the advance search tab.  All 5 of your ancestor were listed 
here:  http://www.arquivos.azores.gov.pt/

On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:29:10 PM UTC-7, Syndi T wrote:
>
>
> Thank you Cheri.  I will definitely look into it tomorrow. I know I 
> visited our local LDS many years ago but all of their records were 
> destroyed in a fire. I will see if they can direct me to another center. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 21, 2014 1:21:10 AM UTC-3, Cheri Mello wrote: 
> > FHC = Family History Center. They are located at many of the Churches of 
> Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) or Mormons.  They are open to the 
> public.  You do not need to be LDS to use them. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheri Mello 
> > Listowner, Azores-Gen 
> > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada 
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Syndi T]

Thank you Cheri.  I will definitely look into it tomorrow. I know I visited our 
local LDS many years ago but all of their records were destroyed in a fire. I 
will see if they can direct me to another center. 



On Friday, March 21, 2014 1:21:10 AM UTC-3, Cheri Mello wrote:
> FHC = Family History Center. They are located at many of the Churches of 
> Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) or Mormons.  They are open to the 
> public.  You do not need to be LDS to use them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Cheri Mello]

FHC = Family History Center. They are located at many of the Churches of
Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) or Mormons.  They are open to the
public.  You do not need to be LDS to use them.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Syndi T]

Hi Richard,


Sorry for my ignorance but what is FHC? I'm very new at this. 

Syn

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Syndi T]

Hi Richard,

The only information I have is what my grand uncle had found on his own and the 
other information I located from my great grandfather: his name was Jose but 
then it changed to Joseph Texeira. His birth date was September 23, 1877 or at 
least that's what is own his grave. The only other information about Maria da 
Estrella is that she died in April 1927 and was buried at the Kurtistown 
Catholic Cemetery but there are no markers.  The cemetery has fallen apart. 

Thank you for your help. 
Syndi

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

That would mean he was born about 1843 and married around 1872. Those dates 
fall in the dead zone for the records I have. I would start looking at the 
marriage records of NS Estrela in Ribeira Grande for the marriage of Manoel and 
Maria. The records for Ribeira Grand are not on line yet. In the mean time you 
could order the film at the FHC near you but the records when they are put on 
line are easier to use than the micro films.

I can definitely say that the marriage is not in Ribeirinha  as I have all the 
marriages from there.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX


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Hi Cheri,

Thank you for responding. The date was, 1 November 1883.  Manoel was 40 yrs, 
his wife Maria was 37. The children was Jacintha, Jose and Maria; 11, 5, and 2 
respectively. 

Syndi 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Syndi T]

One other detail was the spelling of our family's surname.   It was TEIXEIRA 
but along the way it changed to Texeira. 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Syndi T]

Hi Cheri,

Thank you for responding. The date was, 1 November 1883.  Manoel was 40 yrs, 
his wife Maria was 37. The children was Jacintha, Jose and Maria; 11, 5, and 2 
respectively. 

Syndi 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Texeira from Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel island to Hawaii

[Cheri Mello]

Syndi,

The 3 pieces for genealogy are a name, a date, a place.  The place is
usually the hardest, but you have that.  What's the date on the Bell Rock
manifest?

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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