Re: Why V3
Hi Roland, Sorry to drag this up again, but... "Roland Winkler" writes: > By now, unless someone on this list brings up problems with BBDB v3 > that remained unnoticed so far, I do not have plans to further > modify the code of BBDB (except for fixing docstrings that could > still be buggy / incomplete). In particular, I do not want to > introduce any additional incompatible changes beyond the ones > present in the current code. I would really like to see the compatibility with lookout.el and csv.el to be restored, if possible. This is the only way I see now for contacts import/export with Outlook, unless on a Windows machine. [1] [2] Thanks for your consideration! Footnotes: [1] http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BbdbImporters#toc7 [2] http://www.mail-archive.com.ar/bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net/msg05708.html -- Johnny -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: bbdb-add-new-field missing in bbdb3 (using lookout.el and csv.el fails)
Johnny writes: > "otherfields". It seems these are added to the 'bbdb-props' list, and I This should be 'bbdb-propnames', sorry for the typo! -- Johnny -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: bbdb-add-new-field missing in bbdb3 (using lookout.el and csv.el fails)
"Roland Winkler" writes:
> On Mon Jun 4 2012 Johnny wrote:
>> lookout.el is however using a bbdb function, *bbdb-add-new-field*,
>> that has *disapeared* in bbdb3. As a lisp amateur, I plunged ahead and
>> copied across the function from bbdb 2.35, but of course this doesn't
>> work (theres a bbdb-propnames that has since been obsoleted, and this is
>> omnipresent in the old code and nowhere to be found in the new code).
>>
>> Has the 'bbdb-add-new field' been replaced in bbdb3, or is it removed?
>> In short, how can I restore it to make lookout.el and csv.el work?
>
> A quick look into the old code of BBDB 2.35 tells me that
> bbdb-add-new-field was not used at all within BBDB 2.35. That was
> probably the reason why it got removed. I have to look into what
> lookout.el is trying to achieve by calling bbdb-add-new-field (plus
> other functions from BBDB). I expect that these things can be
> greatly simplified. (I need to look more carefully, but I expect
> that calling something like bbdb-add-new-field is not at all needed
> anymore.)
>
Hi Roland and thanks for the quick reply!
To my untrained eyes it looks like lookout.el is trying to define new
BBDB fields to use for undefined fields in the csv file generated by
Outlook; these fields will be defined by a user set variable as
"otherfields". It seems these are added to the 'bbdb-props' list, and I
guess that these are subsequently used when importing the data.
I just did a write-up of how to use csv.el and lookout.el with BBDB 2.35
to successfully import contacts if this may help.
Import Outlook contacts to BBDB (using v.2.35)
==
* Import Outlook contacts
+ Export Outlook contacts
To import Outlook contacts to BBDB, the first step is to open
Outlook and export all contacts as csv (comma separated values).
+ Get lookout.el and csv.el
Get [lookout.el] and [csv.el] (both at [Ulf Jasper's emacs page]). Add
these to your load path and require.
[lookout.el]: http://ulf.epplejasper.de/downloads/lookout.el
[csv.el]: http://ulf.epplejasper.de/downloads/csv.el
[Ulf Jasper's emacs page]: http://ulf.epplejasper.de/Emacs.html
+ Customise lookout-bbdb-mapping-table
The 'lookout-bbdb-mapping-table' tells lookout how to map the
field names encountered in the .csv file to bbdb. The easiest
way to do this is probably to define a new mapping constant in
.init.el. In lookout.el, there's a default mapping for a German
Outlook (not sure if this is up to date, but it shows the
principles). Copy this to your init file and edit the fields as
necessary. I chose the following mapping for my English Outlook.
(defconst lookout-bbdb-mapping-table-outlook-english
'(
("firstname" "Title" "First Name" "Middle Name")
("lastname" "Last Name" "Suffix")
("company" "Company" "Department" "Job Title")
("net" "E-mail Address" "E-mail 2 Address")
("phones" "Home Phone" "Home Phone 2" "Mobile Phone" "Business Phone"
"Business Phone 2" "Other Phone")
("addr1" "Home Street" "Home City" "Home Postal Code" "Home Country")
("addr2" "Business Street" "Business City" "B
usiness State" "Business Postal Code" "Business Country")
("addr3" "addr3")
("notes" "Notes")
("otherfields"
"Web Page"
"Office Location"
"Business Fax"
"Other Fax"
)
"Mapping table, usable for input from English M$ Outlook (based on
German example in lookout.el)."
"this is a description of the variable")
)
(you should modify the mapping to suit your fields)
Then use this constant as the mapping by adding to the init file:
(setq lookout-bbdb-mapping-table
'lookout-bbdb-mapping-table-outlook-english)
+ BACK UP YOUR DATABASE
Before you start the import, make sure you have backed up your
database, as the import may overwrite existing records (but
should prompt), and in general anything may go awry. Test with a
blank database and then do a merge if it looks ok.
+ USE THE RIGHT VERSION OF BBDB! (= BBDB v.2.35)
BBDB v.3 cannot use lookout.el, due to it's usage of e.g.
'bbdb-add-new-field', 'bbdb-propnames' and
'bbdb-record-getprop', which have all been removed from BBDB
v.3. Maybe there's a replacement and BBDB v.3
bbdb-add-new-field missing in bbdb3 (using lookout.el and csv.el fails)
Hi, I have tried to get my outlook contacts into bbdb for some time with various (=none) success. The best method on Linux seems to be lookout.el and csv.el in conjunction [1]. lookout.el is however using a bbdb function, *bbdb-add-new-field*, that has *disapeared* in bbdb3. As a lisp amateur, I plunged ahead and copied across the function from bbdb 2.35, but of course this doesn't work (theres a bbdb-propnames that has since been obsoleted, and this is omnipresent in the old code and nowhere to be found in the new code). Has the 'bbdb-add-new field' been replaced in bbdb3, or is it removed? In short, how can I restore it to make lookout.el and csv.el work? Thanks, Footnotes: [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bbdb.user/3112 -- Johnny -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: BBDB 3 and lookout.el (importing .csv file into bbdb contacts)
Hi Sriram! "Sriram ET." writes: >> I envisioned being able to sync my work contacts, normally managed >> by Outlook, with my personal contacts, managed normally through >> BBDB. Maybe having all (synced) Outlook contacts on a usb and >> carrying around. > How is Outlooking managing your contacts if you are running Linux? The work > flow I have built the application for is: On Windows (where you use your > Outlook), you can sync to a .bbdb file that can be shared through a common > partition on Linux - and access it via Emacs when you boot into Linux, or keep > that file on Dropbox or some such thing. You do not really need anything else > on Windows (not even Emacs or BBDB elisp files). In other words, instead of > carrying around a synced PST, you would carry around a synched .bbdb file. > Does > that make sense? > Yes, it makes sense and seems reasonable. The main problem I have with using Windows, is that it is on a corporate machine I have no control over and extremely limited access to (I guess, a standard office computer these days) that I have to use for work, hence contacts getting into Outlook. Some of those, I want to have access to at home on my Linux box. Hence the idea to keep a contacts file in pst format on a USB-stick and sync the data at home where I can configure the necessary applications. Of course, if I could configure the Windows machine that would be a daisy! :) -- Johnny -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: BBDB 3 and lookout.el (importing .csv file into bbdb contacts)
"Sriram ET." writes: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Johnny wrote: > > > Just need some help getting it up and running on Linux please... > > Oops :) > > Outlook support in ASynK/Gout uses the MAPI API (through the python bindings > of > the excellent pywin32 package), which means it was designed to run on Windows. :( No plans / possibilities to get it running on Linux in the future? I guess a bi-directional sync on Linux may seem a little funny, but I envisioned being able to sync my work contacts, normally managed by Outlook, with my personal contacts, managed normally through BBDB. Maybe having all (synced) Outlook contacts on a usb and carrying around. It seems I have to get 'lookout.el' working after all... -- Johnny -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: BBDB 3 and lookout.el (importing .csv file into bbdb contacts)
"Sriram ET." writes: > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Johnny wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have tried for some time to get lookout.el to import my contacts from > a csv-file into bbdb, but am on the verge of giving up, so before > finally ditching the attempts (again); Is there *anyone* > out there that have successfully migrated .csv contacts into bbdb (bbdb > 3), and how? > > I have not migrated a CSV, but... > > I am about 7-10 days from announcing a two way sync tool for BBDB/Outlook/ > Google Contacts, i.e. you can do bi-directional sync between any two folders > across any two different databases. > > If you are interested in trying out a bleeding edge version of my code, it is > available at: https://github.com/skarra/Gout Documentation is very incomplete, > but if you would like to try this out, we could talk offline and I can help > you > get it set up. > Wow, this is what I first looked for, but found none available! I am pulling your code now and will be excited to try it out - too long time have I had contacts scattered in various places and it is time to bring them all together. Clearly BBDB is the preferred tool, but a two-way sync to Outlook is almost invaluable as this is where I have to spend work. Altough I have deferred using google for contacts, this may provide the wholy trinity with www-available contacts! Just need some help getting it up and running on Linux please... Thanks, great initiative! -- Johnny -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
BBDB 3 and lookout.el (importing .csv file into bbdb contacts)
Hi all,
I have tried for some time to get lookout.el to import my contacts from
a csv-file into bbdb, but am on the verge of giving up, so before
finally ditching the attempts (again); Is there *anyone*
out there that have successfully migrated .csv contacts into bbdb (bbdb
3), and how?
PROBLEM: I have a lot of legacy contacts in outlook, and want to get all
this into BBDB.
TRIED SOLUTION: The best method I have found seems to be to export
from outlook to .csv format and then use lookout.el (which requires
csv.el) to import the csv-file into bbdb. After failing to import the
csv-file generated by outlook, I tried a minimal example to get the
import working as below:
1. Obtain csv.el [1] and lookout.el [2], put these in emacs load path
and include them in init.el.
2. To make lookout read the csv-file, I created a new variable in
init.el and then set the lookout-bbdb-mapping-table to use it.
,
| (defconst lookout-bbdb-mapping-table-outlook-english
| '(
| ("firstname" "First Name")
| ("lastname" "Last Name")
| ("phones" "Home Phone")
| ("net" "E-mail Addres")
|
| ("company" "company")
| ("addr1" "addr1")
| ("addr2" "addr2")
| ("addr3" "addr3")
| ("notes" "notes")
| ("otherfields" "otherfields")
| )
| "this is a description of the variable"
| )
`
,
| (setq lookout-bbdb-mapping-table 'lookout-bbdb-mapping-table-outlook-english)
`
3. Creating a dummy file with only one entry below row with field specifiers
,
| First Name,Last Name,Home Phone,E-mail
Address,company,addr1,addr2,addr3,notes,otherfields
| John,Doe,+1 (555) 555
555,john@dummy.web,johns_company,johns_addr1,johns_addr2,johns_addr3,johns_notes,johns_otherfields
`
4. Running 'lookout-create-bbdb' from emacs and pointing to this file generates
the following errormessage
,
| Wrong number of arguments: #[(record field contents) "Ä=n
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T))JBLT)CL)*A%*
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Ä))JBLÄ)CL)*A*
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ÕH)+ÇÖ! ;5ÉÔ \"+t Ês
@×
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))JBL)CL)*A}* *-ÅÝ-
| Õ*I*£Þ=~ ßH)âÇà! ;ìÉÞ \"++ Ê *
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@ Ë(\")Ì)!_ )J>?
d))JBLd)CL)*A4*
*ß*I*£.>âH)Çã\"ä #£Çå\"æ !Ê/ç !)" [field
record vector contents affix --dolist-tail-- 2 error "Affix field exists
already" bbdb-split ...] 8 ("/usr/local/share/emacs/bbdb3/bbdb-com.elc" .
30265) (let* ((_ (bbdb-editable)) (record (or (bbdb-current-record) (error
"Point not on a record"))) (list (append bbdb-notes-label-list (quote (affix
organization aka phone address mail (field "") (completion-ignore-case t)
(present (mapcar (quote car) (bbdb-record-notes record))) init init-f) (if
(bbdb-record-affix record) (push (quote affix) present)) (if
(bbdb-record-organization record) (push (quote organization) present)) (if
(bbdb-record-mail record) (push (quote mail) present)) (if (bbdb-record-aka
record) (push (quote aka) present)) (dolist (field present) (setq list (remq
field list))) (setq list (mapcar (quote symbol-name) list)) (while (string=
field "") (setq field (downcase (completing-read "Insert Field: " list (if
(member (intern field) present) (error "Field \"%s\" already exists" field))
...)], 1
`
5. lookout.el is using a function 'bbdb-add-new-field' which I cannot
find in bbdb-com.el; could this be related?
Thanks in advance for any ideas!
Footnotes:
[1] http://ulf.epplejasper.de/downloads/csv.el
[2] http://ulf.epplejasper.de/downloads/lookout.el
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Re: State of the art of Bi-directional sync for BBDB and other contact apps
Carson Chittom writes: > "Sriram ET." writes: > >> Hi, I am trying to determine there is a recommended utility that does >> bi-directional sync between BBDB and any of the other popular contact apps >> like Outlook, Gmail, Apple Address Book, etc.? >> >> I see a number of export and import, which is typically uni-directional. >> Just checking what is out there, before I think of any heavy >> self-customization. > > I've wanted this also for a while. Unfortunately, from what I've seen > searching Google, what we want doesn't (yet) exist. (Though I'd love to > be corrected.) > > I have also been considering how to do this for a while, but have not found a way. I am currently considering using 'lookout.el' [1] to import my contacts to bbdb, but I don't think export is possible, so this would be unidirectional only. Even so, I'd be curious to know if there is any better / other option for contacts import? Footnotes: [1] http://ulf.epplejasper.de/downloads/lookout.el -- Johnny -- Virtualization & Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud computing also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a service. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Initial Texinfo Manual
Philipp Moeller writes: > I set up an initial texinfo manual and adjusted the Makefile to install > it. The outline is based on what used to be in the old manual and I'll > start writing the Introduction tomorrow. As I'm not yet very familiar > with BBDB some help would be appreciated. > > Feel free to pull the commits you like from: > https://github.com/bo0ts/bbdb-v3 > Looks like a place to start, great! - Is the intention to mainly develop the doc in this repository and then merge to Savannah? - Presumably the old doc can still serve as an inspiration, or is there any restrictions on replication? I am happy to help out on this, but may take some time to get up to speed, as I have limited (i.e. no) experience with collaborating through revision control, so will learn as I go. I guess a start could be to capture some of the issues from the list and just drop it into the (approximately) appropriate sections and restructure and reorganise as it develops, plus as mentioned inspiration from the old manual? -- Johnny -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: Manual for BBDB 3
Philipp Moeller writes: > Carson Chittom writes: > >> "Philipp Möller" writes: >> >>> I'm new to BBDB and confused by which manual to use for which version. >> >> From interactions on this list, it appears that most-to-all of the old >> manual is invalid for BBDB3. > > So for now it is just looking at source and figuring things out. > Please don't disregard the old manual completely, but read with caution! I have learned to use BBDB 3 pretty much from the old manual, so it's certainly a reasonable place to start. There are some breaking changes in variable names, and that's where looking at the docstrings / source or eventually the mailing list comes in. If you have the time, keep notes of the changes as you learn; these will be useful for updating the manual. I asked about this previously, but it seems an update is (understandably) not on top of the todo list. I guess if the info files are included in git, maybe someone else than the main developer(s?) could work on it? I wouldn't mind trying to help, but have limited experience. The only note (unfortunately) I have kept is below. , | ;(add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'bbdb-define-all-aliases) ; BBDB 2.35 | (add-hook 'message-setup-hook 'bbdb-mail-aliases) ; BBDB 3.x ` Also, I think the set-up has changed; see a recent message on the list on this. -- Johnny -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: stop bbdb from asking questions in gnus
Thorsten writes: >> I think I found the culprit. I'll give it a try and let you know. >> >> ,- >> | bbdb/gnus-update-records-p is a variable defined in `bbdb-gnus.el'. >> | Its value is >> | (lambda nil >> | (let >> | ((bbdb-update-records-p 'query)) >> | (bbdb-select-message))) >> | >> | >> | Documentation: >> | How `bbdb-mua-update-records' processes mail addresses in Gnus. >> | Allowed values are: >> | nil Do nothing. >> | search Search for existing records. >> | queryUpdate existing records or query for creating new ones. >> | create or t Update existing records or create new ones. >> | A function which returns one of the above values. >> | >> | You can customize this variable. >> `- > > Problem solved, now I can use gnus without any (unwanted) interference > from bbdb again. Only have to find out, how the wanted interference > works. > Interesting, I will have to review my BBDB config properly some day, but below is what I have today and I do not get queried about updating records (without setting the above and using BBDB 3.02)? Anyhow, FYI and if it makes sense (doesn't to me though..). , | (require 'bbdb) | (require 'bbdb-autoloads) | (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message) | | (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus 'bbdb-insinuate-message) | | (setq bbdb-north-american-phone-numbers-p nil) | (setq bbdb-check-zip nil) | | (setq bbdb-complete-name-allow-cycling t) | (setq bbdb-complete-mail-allow-cycling t) | | (setq bbdb-use-pop-up nil) | | (setq bbdb-pop-up-window-size 5) ` Best, -- Johnny -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: stop bbdb from asking questions in gnus
Thorsten writes: > I successfully installed bbdb 3 for the use with gnus. But the default > behaviour might almost be considered a bug - the whole workflow in gnus > is destroyed by bbdb constantly asking if I want to add some post or > email author to the database. I almost never want to do that. > > Therefore I have two questions: > > 1. how can I turn this behaviour off? Does this setting do it? , | (setq bbdb-use-pop-up nil) ` > > 2. is it reasonable to habe that kind of behaviour as a default? Is >there anybody who would want that? > Agree. Regards -- Johnny -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP
Carson Chittom writes:
> Antoine Levitt writes:
>
>> 13/09/11 15:27, Carson Chittom
>>> -=-=-=-=-
>>> (add-to-list 'load-path "C:/Documents and
>>> Settings/carson/Utilities/bbdb/lisp")
>>> (require 'bbdb)
>>> (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
>>> (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)
>>> -=-=-=-=-
>>
>> That setup is obsolete, just remove
>>
>> (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)
>
> Removing this line doesn't change anything; I get the same error.
>
>> and it should be fine. If that helps, my setup is
>>
>> (require 'bbdb)
>> (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
>> (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message)
>
My setup is
(require 'bbdb)
(require 'bbdb-autoloads)
(add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus 'bbdb-insinuate-message)
(bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
Slight variation here, not sure which is more "correct", and without any
further consideration of obsoleteness, this setup works. On BBDB 3.02
that is.
> Adding the last line you have here gives me an error also. Running
> emacs --debug-init gives me
>
> -=-=-=-
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function bbdb-mua-auto-update-init)
> (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init (quote gnus) (quote message))
> eval-buffer(# nil "c:/Documents and
> Settings/carson/Application Data/.emacs" nil t) ; Reading at buffer
> position 578
> load-with-code-conversion("c:/Documents and
> Settings/carson/Application Data/.emacs" "c:/Documents and
> Settings/carson/Application Data/.emacs" t t)
> load("~/.emacs" t t)
> #[nil "\205\264
> -=-=-=-
>
> I'm not sure what that means. I'm going to try updating to the latest
> in the git repository and see if that fixes things (when I started
> trying to get this working this morning, I thought I had a fairly recent
> checkout, but it actually seems to be from about a month ago).
>
For what it's worth, I don't use that function either.
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Re: Aliases questions (autocompletion)
Roland Winkler writes: > On Sun Jul 31 2011 Johnny wrote: >> I have started using aliases in bbdb and wonder if there is any setup to >> autocomplete on defined aliases in the headers? Say, I have an alias >> named "listofmembers" and want to mail them. I add this mail-alias field >> to all relevant contacts, then in the "To" header type the full alias >> "listofmembers" followed by TAB, this fills in the "To" header with the >> group members email as expected. However, I would like to enable TAB >> completion on alias names, e.g. if I type "lis" and TAB this should >> ideally fill in the rest. Is this possible to achieve? > > This has (almost) nothing to do with BBDB. The mailabbrev package is > doing this (both when you define aliases via a .mailrc file or via > BBDB). > > You can use mail-abbrev-complete-alias from that package (I think, > usually bound to M-Tab). If you also want to use bbdb-complete-mail > things get a bit more complicated, as you need to specify some order > for completion (whether mail-abbrev-complete-alias or > bbdb-complete-mail should try first). Try something like > > (defun my-bbdb-complete-mail () > (interactive) > (or (mail-abbrev-complete-alias) > (bbdb-complete-mail))) > This got me on the right track in learning about abbrevs, thanks! I could get this working by binding in .gnus.el as: (setq message-setup-hook '(lambda () (define-key message-mode-map "\M-\t" 'my-bbdb-complete-mail))) This will of course only complete on the first match, i.e. if there is an alias starting with 'lis', any bbdb record starting with 'lis' will not be displayed. However, pure TAB completion works on bbdb records only (Is this default bbdb or have I put something in my init to change, I am not sure? Note to self: Have to clean these out someday). Thus, I ended up just binding M-TAB to mail-abbrev-complete-alias. If I want to complete on a name, I use *TAB*, if an alias just *M-TAB*. It might be nice to make aliases and names all appear by the same completion (like cycling), but this seems like overkill at the moment. >> Second question, is there a clever way to list all mail aliases in BBDB, >> and subsequently list all members of o select mail alias? > > How about bbdb-search-notes (bound to S N)? If you want to list just > the aliases, but not the records using them, you might have to write > your own code. Yes, this is exactly what I was looking for! I now can use this to get my desired records (i.e. aliases) in the BBDB buffer, then return to my Message buffer and do bbdb-yank-addresses to do the same as above, in a different way! Thanks for your accurate pointers Roland, right on target! -- Johnny -- BlackBerry® DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. Sessions, hands-on labs, demos & much more. Register early & save! http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Aliases questions (autocompletion)
Hi all, I have started using aliases in bbdb and wonder if there is any setup to autocomplete on defined aliases in the headers? Say, I have an alias named "listofmembers" and want to mail them. I add this mail-alias field to all relevant contacts, then in the "To" header type the full alias "listofmembers" followed by TAB, this fills in the "To" header with the group members email as expected. However, I would like to enable TAB completion on alias names, e.g. if I type "lis" and TAB this should ideally fill in the rest. Is this possible to achieve? Second question, is there a clever way to list all mail aliases in BBDB, and subsequently list all members of o select mail alias? I am using bbdb 3.02 with No Gnus 0.18. Thanks! -- Johnny -- Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: bbdb-pop-up-target-lines
Masaru Nomiya writes: > I'm using the very latest bzr of Emacs (24.0.50). Which version of bbdb are you using? > On it, I'm setting; > > (setq bbdb-use-pop-up t) > (setq bbdb-po-up-target-lines 7) In bbdb 3 this variable is changed and should be (setq bbdb-pop-up-window-size 5) > Has anyone solved this problem? If you still use bbdb 2.35, it looks ok to me (except your typo (?) that should be 'bbdb-pop-up-target-lines'). Cheers, -- Johnny -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c1 ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
org-bbdb-anniversaries gives error 'bad sexp'
I just went back to bbdb 3.02 after having lingered with bbdb 2.35 for a while. I have set up an org-agenda that includes anniversaries in the agenda view from the bbdb database, but this breaks with bbdb 3.02 giving the error 'bad sexp'. I set up the agenda file using (from org-mode 6.33x info section 10.3.1): * Anniversaries :PROPERTIES: :CATEGORY: Anniv :END %%(org-bbdb-anniversaries) Any ideas? Thanks! -- Johnny -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: BBDB 3.02 bbdb/gnus-edit-notes not working
"Roland Winkler" writes: > On Wed Feb 16 2011 Johnny wrote: >> Ok, so I have reverted to bbdb 2.35 to test the ';' >> (bbdb/gnus-edit-notes) functionality, and using this function adds the >> sender to the database if not already present, as explained in the info >> files. >> >> This function is broken in bbdb 3.02 as the ';' does not add the sender >> to the database. > > Finally I got a rudimentary gnus running. When I invoke > bbdb-mua-edit-notes-sender (formerly bbdb/gnus-edit-notes) it allows > me to edit notes as expected. (I used the latest version of BBDB > that I submitted today. Yet I believe that none of the latest > changes should be relevant here.) This has been on my todo list for a while now, and I finally got around to fetch the latest git version of the bbdb3, and now the ';' adds the user as expected. I have the same settings in my init as last time, so I don't know why it failed. User incompetence maybe? Anyhow, I'll go back to bbdb3 to follow development. Sorry about the commotion and thanks! Regards -- Johnny -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
BBDB 3.02 bbdb/gnus-edit-notes not working
Ok, so I have reverted to bbdb 2.35 to test the ';' (bbdb/gnus-edit-notes) functionality, and using this function adds the sender to the database if not already present, as explained in the info files. This function is broken in bbdb 3.02 as the ';' does not add the sender to the database. Cross-posting (let me know if this is wrong) to the gnus mailing list, if some experience Gus user has resolved this. Previous said on this topic as below... "Roland Winkler" writes: > On Wed Feb 2 2011 Johnny wrote: >> "Roland Winkler" writes: >> >> Further, I don't understand how to get the bbdb/gnus-show-sender to add >> unknown addresses; > [snip] > >> However, browsing the lisp code, I assume that the following is actually >> invoked (?) which seems to simply return nothing if the sender is not >> found, as opposed to adding the sender: >> >> > (defun bbdb/gnus-summary-sender-in-bbdb (header) >> > "Given a Gnus message header, return a mark if the poster is in the BBDB, >> > \" \" otherwise. The mark itself is the value of the field indicated >> > by `bbdb/gnus-message-marker-field' (`mark-char' by default) if the >> indicated field >> > is in the poster's record, and `bbdb/gnus-summary-known-poster-mark' >> otherwise." >> > >> >> Is there something I am missing here, as I believe there ought to be a >> fast and easy method to do exactly what is stated in the manual; >> i.e. look up an address, and if it doesn't exist, volunteer to add >> it. > > The generic command for this is now bbdb-mua-display-sender. > In Gnus, BBDB binds this command to ";". > > Unfortunately I am not a more experienced Gnus user, and there is a > nasty technicality about keybindings in Gnus that I do not yet > understand myself: > > While bbdb-insinuate-gnus contains the line > > (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map ":" 'bbdb-mua-display-sender) > > the command `gnus-article-read-summary-keys provides an additional > wrapper for bbdb-mua-display-sender which restores the windwo > configuration if this command is invoked from within a Gnus > *Article* buffer. So the command bbdb-mua-display-sender has not > quite the intended effect of displaying a BBDB window for the record > matching the sender of a Gnus message. > > Currently, the command bbdb-mua-display-sender only works as > intended from within a Gnus *Summary* buffer. > > Comments from more experienced Gnus users are appreciated. > Possibly, we should continue this thread on the Gnus mailing list. > > Roland -- Johnny -- The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: making address formatting more flexible
Luca Capello writes: > I do not think there is even a *used* standard within a single country, > at least here in Switzerland I saw different layouts sometime according > to where the sender lives (French/German/Italian part). And none of the > examples at the UPU website uses this ISO-3166 supposed standard: > > > <http://www.upu.int/en/activities/addressing/postal-addressing-systems-in-member-countries.html> This is an international problem of cooperation. If there is an International Standard, supported by an Organisation (yes, ISO was intentionally capitalised), it should be adhered to, unless there is compelling evidence to the contrary (of outstanding benefit). I think, in this case, it is merely a topic of custom and practice I think, and if any practice is to be adopted for an application with international usage, an internationally accepted standard should be adhered to, if at least to support and strengthen the collaborative effort, which I believe FOSS and Gnu is all about. If bbdb is going to use any country abbreviations, they should be according to ISO is my opinion. However, as far as I am aware, postcodes do not appear in ISO and should be locally (user) specified. -- Johnny -- The ultimate all-in-one performance toolkit: Intel(R) Parallel Studio XE: Pinpoint memory and threading errors before they happen. Find and fix more than 250 security defects in the development cycle. Locate bottlenecks in serial and parallel code that limit performance. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devfeb ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: bbdb-popup-target-window-size (Re: BBDB 3.x documentation)
"Roland Winkler" writes: > The doc string of bbdb-pop-up-window-size says: The doc strings (that's the ones in the lisp code, right?) are good for BBDB 3.x. It's just that I am used to read the info files to get up to speed, being a lisp neophyte. But it's a good learning experience! > The only thing that changed has been the default value. > It used to be the integer 5 (i.e., 5 lines). > Now it is 0.5. I'll be happy to go back to the default 5 > if that's what people prefer (or anything else like 0.324) The default is fine as whatever. Just pointed it out for documentation purposes (i.e. when updating the info file, the default value should also be updated). -- Johnny -- The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these rules translate into the virtual world? http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: making address formatting more flexible
"Roland Winkler" writes: > I am thinking about ways to make the formatting of snail mail > addresses more flexible. This is a good idea; the current BBDB handling seems very US-centered. For one, I think "Postal code" should replace the American term "Zip code" as default naming, as this seems to be the generic term. > I am thinking about replacing this scheme by a generic function > bbdb-format-address that uses some kind of format strings for > addresses from different countries. ... > If I remember correctly, Europe introduced zip codes like CH-8052, > NL-2300RA, and SE-132 54 I guess this stems from ISO-3166? It does seem appealing to use this standard, but it could take some effort to implement; e.g. would a lookup table be necessary? > I am not yet sure what is the best way how to combine a look-up table > based on country names with a zip-based scheme. Wikipedia lists a few formattings of postal codes; however this is not defined in ISO-3166. Maybe there's some other source for this though... -- Johnny -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
bbdb/gnus-show-sender (Re: BBDB 3.x documentation)
"Roland Winkler" writes: Further, I don't understand how to get the bbdb/gnus-show-sender to add unknown addresses; i.e. the 2.35 manual explains that: > `:' > (`bbdb/package-show-sender') Displays the BBDB entry corresponding > to the author of the current message. If there is none, you will > be asked whether to create one. The function called is > `bbdb/package-show-sender', where `package' is either `gnus', > `mh', `rmail', or `vm', depending on the mail or news program > being used when the command is invoked. > However, browsing the lisp code, I assume that the following is actually invoked (?) which seems to simply return nothing if the sender is not found, as opposed to adding the sender: > (defun bbdb/gnus-summary-sender-in-bbdb (header) > "Given a Gnus message header, return a mark if the poster is in the BBDB, > \" \" otherwise. The mark itself is the value of the field indicated > by `bbdb/gnus-message-marker-field' (`mark-char' by default) if the indicated > field > is in the poster's record, and `bbdb/gnus-summary-known-poster-mark' > otherwise." > Is there something I am missing here, as I believe there ought to be a fast and easy method to do exactly what is stated in the manual; i.e. look up an address, and if it doesn't exist, volunteer to add it. Regards -- Johnny -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
bbdb-popup-target-window-size (Re: BBDB 3.x documentation)
"Roland Winkler" writes: > Thank you, that's alsway nice to hear! -- To get started, it can > already be a significant help if you can post here if you encounter > variable or function doc strings that are out of date, absent, or > confusing in any other ways. Good doc strings should NOT require > that the reader is already an elisp guru. > Well, my recent discovery was that the variable name change bbdb-popup-target-lines -> bbdb-popup-window-size in BBDB 3.x. They seem to do the same thing (i.e. setting the target number of lines for the bbdb-popup window). The default value was 5 but is now 0.5. -- Johnny -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
BBDB 3.x documentation
As I am occasionaly fiddling around with the new BBDB (3.02) to get a nice set-up and using the old documentation to get around, every now and then I encounter the changes in e.g. parameter names. I guess the new version will reside on Savannah also in the future (and not Sourceforge that seems to hold the previous development branch), but currently there's no documentation on Savannah (right?). Being fairly new to the Gnu/Linux world, I wouldn't mind attempting to improve on documentation for the new BBDB as I go along, but would need some initial guidance and pointers to get started; any volunteer mentors? -- Johnny -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: BBDB beginners guide?
Uwe Brauer writes: >>> Regarding Re: BBDB beginners guide?; Johnny adds: > Here is my setting: (still using 2.35 with Robert Fenks > extensions) That's a quite extensive example, thanks for this. I will have to take some time and play around with the settings and options available... > > If you are interested I can send you details. > I take you up on that and may ask you later for further explananations, but for now I need to do some digestion of the information already received; the example initialization files are very helpful! Again, many thanks! \Johnny -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book "Blueprint to a Billion" shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: BBDB beginners guide?
Bruno Tavernier writes: >> Regardless of method, BBDB keeps asking me to add mails! How can I make >> it stop doing that? > > Here is what I use > | ; Stop showing when updates occur > | (setq bbdb-message-pop-up nil) Thanks Bruno, this solves the query popping up! Regarding fine tuning of the initialisation parameters, I will have to keep your settings example to play around with and understand the tuning of BBDB and Gnus. Cheers, Johnny -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book "Blueprint to a Billion" shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: BBDB beginners guide?
"Roland Winkler" writes: Thanks for your reply and effort put in to developing BBDB! Sorry for the delay in replying, I was tied up with work recently, without Gnu/Linux access. Thanks to the help from here, I have now found the solution solved this by adding the following line to emacs init.el: (setq bbdb-message-pop-up nil) > Updating the info pages is on my todo list. But it's a somewhat bigger > project. I am sorry for the delay. Volunteers welcome! >From the discussion it seems there are relatively minor changes in BBDB 3.xx. For my purposes, I will keep learning from the 2.35 manual with this in mind. I will keep mind the volunteering request, but alas I am completely inexperienced there as well! >> bbdb-add-address(es) in the online documentation and set this to nil >> or 'never. > > Is this a typo? I believe there was never such a variable. Yes, sorry, this should be bbdb-always-add-addresses as in section 1.7.1 of the BBDB 2.35 manual. >> Regardless of method, BBDB keeps asking me to add mails! How can I >> make it stop doing that? > > In which context is BBDB asking you this? When you are reading mail or > news with Gnus? Also, what do you mean by "adding mails"? Creating > new records? Note that bbdb-add-mails refers to adding mail addresses > to existing records. It has nothing to do with creation of new > records. (It seems the docstring of this variable could be improved.) You are right, it should be new records. Each time a new mail sender or news poster is encountered, BBDB asks to add a record of the unknown address to the database. This was resolved by setting the bbdb-message-popup variable to nil. Regards, Johnny -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book "Blueprint to a Billion" shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: BBDB beginners guide?
Ok, I have realised that the BBDB 2.35 documentation works ok and using 'C-h a', 'C-h v' goes a long way. However, I am trying to make BBDB stop asking me to add mail addresses. I found: bbdb-add-address(es) in the online documentation and set this to nil or 'never. I also found: bbdb-add-mails by 'C-h v' and set this to nil Regardless of method, BBDB keeps asking me to add mails! How can I make it stop doing that? -- Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
BBDB beginners guide?
I recently discovered Gnus and BBDB with that; found the most recent development by Roland on Savannah which I downloaded and installed successfully. Now, I am trying to figure out different settings and configurations how to use BBDB effectively; are there any good guides or sources of information where I should start? Currently, I am using 'C-a bbdb', which works, but isn't very narrative... Any pointers would be greatly appreciated! And thanks for all the effort put into the application! \Johnny -- Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
