Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 23-Jul-2002 Matt Wilson wrote:
> I'm not sure quite what's caused it, but it was something to do with
> switching decor on/off multiple times - two of the three windows I was
> decor-switching have done it: now the decor draws in unfocused state
> fine, but focused state doesn't update the decor properly - all but the
> font(-color) stay as if unfocused.
> 
> This happened to Ximian Evolution and an XTerm, but not the galeon
> window I was doing the same to...
> 

hmm, can not reproduce it here, but this is why I asked for testers.



Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

> 
> It also seems to work fine across a restart. Only thing I can see is
> when I un-decor a shaded window, it unshades (that's fine) but when I
> re-decor it it stays unshaded. Is this intended? Not that it's a big
> problem... I was just wondering if it was meant to do that.
> 
> Oh, and why "or are a heavy bbtool user"? My bbtools all sit in the
> slit, and don't focus, let alone decor...
> 

many bbtools set states so that the maximize button is not displayed.



Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Matt Wilson

I'm not sure quite what's caused it, but it was something to do with
switching decor on/off multiple times - two of the three windows I was
decor-switching have done it: now the decor draws in unfocused state
fine, but focused state doesn't update the decor properly - all but the
font(-color) stay as if unfocused.

This happened to Ximian Evolution and an XTerm, but not the galeon
window I was doing the same to...

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Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Matt Wilson

On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 07:18, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> If you use windows with no decor or minimal decor or are a heavy bbtool user
> please consider testing the cvs code.  I made a few cleanups today which appear
> to be sound but I would like to hear positive results from a few users.
> 
> Specifically:
> 
> does your window lose its close button unexpectedly?

Nope... it seems to be working fine here.
 
> if you toggle decor on and off does the decor change?

Nope... it comes back same as it was.

It also seems to work fine across a restart. Only thing I can see is
when I un-decor a shaded window, it unshades (that's fine) but when I
re-decor it it stays unshaded. Is this intended? Not that it's a big
problem... I was just wondering if it was meant to do that.

Oh, and why "or are a heavy bbtool user"? My bbtools all sit in the
slit, and don't focus, let alone decor...

Keep up the great work :)

Matt.

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RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Matt Wilson

Or if you use CVS, just patch once and it'll stay in your tree :)


On Wed, 2002-07-24 at 04:17, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> > I determined what changes I needed to make -- the beta series wheel
> > mouse patch only applies to switching workspaces, and thus only affected
> > Screen.cc; the original patch I had was from x0r, and also had code for
> > the window shading and thus affected Window.cc. I determined where to
> > insert the code, did so, compiled, and everything works beautifully now.
> > 
> > Since I know others on the list like to use this particular patch, I've
> > now got another question: how do I make the patch? I'm not a C
> > programmer, and I don't normally create or use patches. Do I simply do a
> > diff on my files versus the original source?
> > 
> 
> basically.
> 
> cd blackbox
> make distclean
> cd ..
> cp -a blackbox blackbox-orig
> cd blackbox
> 
> make distclean
> cd ..
> diff -pruN blackbox-orig blackbox > mystuff.patch
> 
> the -pru option is the format I prefer, other projects may request -prc.
> 
> Once you have your patch go to sf.net and place it on blackbox's patch tracker
> so others can enjoy.
> 
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Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread D. Olson

On Tuesday 23 July 2002 04:16 pm, you wrote:
> > Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something?
> > Actually, more importantly, is this a feature available beta3?
>
> bbkeys has a binding for this there is no way to do it directly from
> blackbox.

Wow. Now that is neat. Thanks.

Again, sorry for the dumb question.

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Re: beta3 and bbappconf iconic

2002-07-23 Thread James Robinson

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 01:29:02PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> The source code is at:
> http://bbtools.windsofstorm.net/sources/devel/bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3.tar.gz
> 
> and an unofficial Debian package can be found at:
> http://research.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~james/download/bbappconf_0.0.1-peak3-1_i386.deb

[... snip ...]

> --Matthew

Just a quick note to say that the bbappconf Debian package will be
moving to http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/jwrobinson/dl.html

James.
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Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Russ Burdick

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 01:51:01PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> for whatever reason the decor was not handled by the code which restores a
> window on startup.  I added in the code.  Needs loads of testing.

just gave it a try and it is working here. everything behaved as
expected on restart, including windows with and without decor.

Russ

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Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

> 
>> As to the decorless window over a restart, I am looking into it.
> 
> excellent. keep up the good work!
> 

for whatever reason the decor was not handled by the code which restores a
window on startup.  I added in the code.  Needs loads of testing.



Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Mads Martin Joergensen

* D. Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Jul 23. 2002 22:10]:
> > yep, the decor does change. one new thing that i did notice is that
> > windows without decor get it back on a bb restart, but then continue to
> > behave normally. what used to happen (and i'm not sure if this is a new
> > change or not) was the window would get decor back but would think that
> > it was decor-less (so if you toggled again it would continue to have
> > decorations, a second toggle would turn them back off). point is the
> > current behaviour seems better than what i'd previously observed. any
> > way that they can continue to stay decor-less through a restart?
> 
> Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something?
> Actually, more importantly, is this a feature available beta3?

It's been in Blackbox for quite some time. This line in .bbkeysrc makes 
Alt-F10 toggle the decoration:

KeyToGrab(F10), WithModifier(Mod1), WithAction(ToggleDecor)

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 and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort?"
-- A. P. J.



Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

> 
> Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something? Actually,
> more importantly, is this a feature available beta3?
> 

bbkeys has a binding for this there is no way to do it directly from blackbox.



Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Russ Burdick

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 04:10:22PM -0400, D. Olson wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something? Actually, 
> more importantly, is this a feature available beta3?
> 

as far as i know it's been in blackbox for a while, including the 
recent betas. as for toggling, from my ~/.bbkeysrc:

KeyToGrab(d), WithModifier(Shift+Mod1), WithAction(ToggleDecor)

Russ

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Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Russ Burdick

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:52:28PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> perhaps I was not clear.  I mean if you toggle decor off, then toggle
> it back is the decor displayed the same as it was before it was
> disabled.
> 

yep, everything seems fine when toggling decor on/off here. just did it 
a bunch of times on different windows and it worked ok.

> As to the decorless window over a restart, I am looking into it.

excellent. keep up the good work!

Russ

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Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread D. Olson

On Tuesday 23 July 2002 03:44 pm, you wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:18:51PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > does your window lose its close button unexpectedly?
>
> not that i've seen. seems ok so far.
>
> > if you toggle decor on and off does the decor change?
>
> yep, the decor does change. one new thing that i did notice is that
> windows without decor get it back on a bb restart, but then continue to
> behave normally. what used to happen (and i'm not sure if this is a new
> change or not) was the window would get decor back but would think that
> it was decor-less (so if you toggled again it would continue to have
> decorations, a second toggle would turn them back off). point is the
> current behaviour seems better than what i'd previously observed. any
> way that they can continue to stay decor-less through a restart?
>
> Russ


Sorry, I am dumb... Is there a hot key to toggle this or something? Actually, 
more importantly, is this a feature available beta3?

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Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

>> if you toggle decor on and off does the decor change?
> 
> yep, the decor does change. one new thing that i did notice is that
> windows without decor get it back on a bb restart, but then continue to
> behave normally. what used to happen (and i'm not sure if this is a new
> change or not) was the window would get decor back but would think that
> it was decor-less (so if you toggled again it would continue to have
> decorations, a second toggle would turn them back off). point is the 
> current behaviour seems better than what i'd previously observed. any 
> way that they can continue to stay decor-less through a restart?
> 

perhaps I was not clear.  I mean if you toggle decor off, then toggle it back
is the decor displayed the same as it was before it was disabled.

As to the decorless window over a restart, I am looking into it.



Re: decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Russ Burdick

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:18:51PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> does your window lose its close button unexpectedly?
> 

not that i've seen. seems ok so far.

> if you toggle decor on and off does the decor change?

yep, the decor does change. one new thing that i did notice is that
windows without decor get it back on a bb restart, but then continue to
behave normally. what used to happen (and i'm not sure if this is a new
change or not) was the window would get decor back but would think that
it was decor-less (so if you toggled again it would continue to have
decorations, a second toggle would turn them back off). point is the 
current behaviour seems better than what i'd previously observed. any 
way that they can continue to stay decor-less through a restart?

Russ

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decor updates in cvs

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

If you use windows with no decor or minimal decor or are a heavy bbtool user
please consider testing the cvs code.  I made a few cleanups today which appear
to be sound but I would like to hear positive results from a few users.

Specifically:

does your window lose its close button unexpectedly?

if you toggle decor on and off does the decor change?



Re: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

> 
> Thanks. I will keep this command in my Linux journal so that I know what to 
> do from here on.
> 
> I don't mind patching manually though. I am not that big of a programmer, but
> I like to see some source sometimes. :)
> 

I use emacs and it has a super nifty diff mode.  I can walk a patch and apply
only the pieces of it I like, revert parts, etc.  Most handy.  I almost never
run patch anymore.



Re: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread D. Olson

On Tuesday 23 July 2002 02:42 pm, you wrote:
> On 23-Jul-2002 D. Olson wrote:
> > Thank you so much! I applied the patch manually (cuz I don't know how to
> > do it properly and I don't feel like finding out atm) and I recompiled
> > and made an RPM. Yay! It works great.
>
> cd blackbox
> patch -p1 < /path/to/patch

Thanks. I will keep this command in my Linux journal so that I know what to 
do from here on.

I don't mind patching manually though. I am not that big of a programmer, but 
I like to see some source sometimes. :)

-- 
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http://mdkxp.by-a.com/

MUB-NWN
http://nwn.by-a.com/

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Re: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 23-Jul-2002 D. Olson wrote:
> Thank you so much! I applied the patch manually (cuz I don't know how to do 
> it properly and I don't feel like finding out atm) and I recompiled and made 
> an RPM. Yay! It works great.
> 

cd blackbox
patch -p1 < /path/to/patch



Re: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread D. Olson

Thank you so much! I applied the patch manually (cuz I don't know how to do 
it properly and I don't feel like finding out atm) and I recompiled and made 
an RPM. Yay! It works great.




On Tuesday 23 July 2002 01:42 pm, you wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:17, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> > > I determined what changes I needed to make -- the beta series wheel
> > > mouse patch only applies to switching workspaces, and thus only
> > > affected Screen.cc; the original patch I had was from x0r, and also had
> > > code for the window shading and thus affected Window.cc. I determined
> > > where to insert the code, did so, compiled, and everything works
> > > beautifully now.
> > >
> > > Since I know others on the list like to use this particular patch, I've
> > > now got another question: how do I make the patch? I'm not a C
> > > programmer, and I don't normally create or use patches. Do I simply do
> > > a diff on my files versus the original source?
> >
> > basically.
> >
> > cd blackbox
> > make distclean
> > cd ..
> > cp -a blackbox blackbox-orig
> > cd blackbox
> > 
> > make distclean
> > cd ..
> > diff -pruN blackbox-orig blackbox > mystuff.patch
> >
> > the -pru option is the format I prefer, other projects may request -prc.
> >
> > Once you have your patch go to sf.net and place it on blackbox's patch
> > tracker so others can enjoy.
>
> Thanks for the instructions! I've done this, and the patch is now
> uploaded to the sf.net patch tracker.
>
> --Matthew

-- 
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MUB-NWN
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RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:17, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> > I determined what changes I needed to make -- the beta series wheel
> > mouse patch only applies to switching workspaces, and thus only affected
> > Screen.cc; the original patch I had was from x0r, and also had code for
> > the window shading and thus affected Window.cc. I determined where to
> > insert the code, did so, compiled, and everything works beautifully now.
> > 
> > Since I know others on the list like to use this particular patch, I've
> > now got another question: how do I make the patch? I'm not a C
> > programmer, and I don't normally create or use patches. Do I simply do a
> > diff on my files versus the original source?
> > 
> 
> basically.
> 
> cd blackbox
> make distclean
> cd ..
> cp -a blackbox blackbox-orig
> cd blackbox
> 
> make distclean
> cd ..
> diff -pruN blackbox-orig blackbox > mystuff.patch
> 
> the -pru option is the format I prefer, other projects may request -prc.
> 
> Once you have your patch go to sf.net and place it on blackbox's patch tracker
> so others can enjoy.

Thanks for the instructions! I've done this, and the patch is now
uploaded to the sf.net patch tracker.

--Matthew



Re: beta3 and bbappconf iconic

2002-07-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:29, Ben Jansens wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:16:38PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> > I'm not sure exactly when I started using bbappconf -- if it was with
> > 0.62.1 or with an early 0.65 alpha. However, when I originally used it,
> > running "bbappconf -i" wouldn't iconify bbappconf properly -- I'd get a
> > little, blank, decorless window in my upper left screen on each
> > workspace. As a result, I started using "bbappconf -w" so I at least
> > wouldn't see it so much (I run my slit as autohide).
> > 
> > Recently, in alpha8, I discovered it was once again iconifying properly.
> > Then, today, when I upgraded to beta3, it reverted to it's weird
> > behavior once again.
> > 
> > Is this a problem with bbappconf? Or is there code that has changed and
> > changed back again for the bbtools that would cause this behaviour?
> > 
> > I don't notice the same thing happening with bbkeys, the only other
> > bbtool I currently run, which leads me to believe it's a problem with
> > bbappconf...
> > 
> > Anybody else noticing this? figured out a patch?
> 
> IIRC bbappconf hs never iconified right. I made a patch a long time ago
> for bbappconf.
> 
> Grab it at
> http://xor.orodu.net/bb/bbappconf.move_resize_fix_iconify.patch
> 
> Maybe that'll solve your problem.
Thanks! It did! bbappMan now appears in my Icons list, and doesn't fuzz
up either my screen or slit. Thanks a bundle!

> 
> xOr
> -- 
> I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way.

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 12:23, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> Where did you get bbappconf from?
The source code is at:
http://bbtools.windsofstorm.net/sources/devel/bbappconf-0.0.1-peak3.tar.gz

and an unofficial Debian package can be found at:
http://research.soc.staffs.ac.uk/~james/download/bbappconf_0.0.1-peak3-1_i386.deb

I'd actually had the Debian package installed, so I had to search
through Google to find the source code -- which is buried in the bbtools
site, and never linked from their pages. It might be nice if someone --
perhaps the maintainers of the FAQ -- would inquire into getting
permission to host the source and Debian packages on their site, so that
this app won't get lost over time.

--Matthew



Re: beta3 and bbappconf iconic

2002-07-23 Thread Ben Jansens

On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 12:16:38PM -0400, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> I'm not sure exactly when I started using bbappconf -- if it was with
> 0.62.1 or with an early 0.65 alpha. However, when I originally used it,
> running "bbappconf -i" wouldn't iconify bbappconf properly -- I'd get a
> little, blank, decorless window in my upper left screen on each
> workspace. As a result, I started using "bbappconf -w" so I at least
> wouldn't see it so much (I run my slit as autohide).
> 
> Recently, in alpha8, I discovered it was once again iconifying properly.
> Then, today, when I upgraded to beta3, it reverted to it's weird
> behavior once again.
> 
> Is this a problem with bbappconf? Or is there code that has changed and
> changed back again for the bbtools that would cause this behaviour?
> 
> I don't notice the same thing happening with bbkeys, the only other
> bbtool I currently run, which leads me to believe it's a problem with
> bbappconf...
> 
> Anybody else noticing this? figured out a patch?

IIRC bbappconf hs never iconified right. I made a patch a long time ago
for bbappconf.

Grab it at
http://xor.orodu.net/bb/bbappconf.move_resize_fix_iconify.patch

Maybe that'll solve your problem.

xOr
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Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 23-Jul-2002 Brian Hechinger wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 09:00:39AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
>> 
>> math.h is the wrong header, it should be stdlib.h (in C++  means it is
>> the wrapper for ).
> 
> ok, yes, it is in stdlib.h, you are right.  the issue here then is that there
> is
> no stdlib.h C++ wrapper on IRIX.  that's kinda silly.
> 

the  headers is somewhat recent and not truly needed so it is not
surprising.

>> I can drop the std:: and use stdlib.h.
> 
> only if it is not a problem for you to do so, then that's probably the best
> way
> unless there is some benefit to using the std:: version that i am not aware
> of.
> 

modern C++ code attempts to not include any .h files and only use the new 
style.  The advantage of the C++ wrapper headers is they take care of the
extern C { } for you.

>> However I would like configure to be
>> able to set the compiler flags properly.
> 
> as would i.  i'm looking into how this configure beast works to see if i can
> come up with a solution.  if anyone is familiar with the internals of the
> configure process i could use a couple pointers.  thanks!!
> 

it seems to me that fastest way would be to find other apps which use configure
and compile under MIPSpro.  Perhaps some of the gnu tools.



RE: beta3 and bbappconf iconic

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> I'm not sure exactly when I started using bbappconf -- if it was with
> 0.62.1 or with an early 0.65 alpha. However, when I originally used it,
> running "bbappconf -i" wouldn't iconify bbappconf properly -- I'd get a
> little, blank, decorless window in my upper left screen on each
> workspace. As a result, I started using "bbappconf -w" so I at least
> wouldn't see it so much (I run my slit as autohide).
> 

Where did you get bbappconf from?



Re: Success: Building 0.65.0beta3 with MIPSpro

2002-07-23 Thread Brian Hechinger

On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 09:00:39AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> math.h is the wrong header, it should be stdlib.h (in C++  means it is
> the wrapper for ).

ok, yes, it is in stdlib.h, you are right.  the issue here then is that there is
no stdlib.h C++ wrapper on IRIX.  that's kinda silly.

> I can drop the std:: and use stdlib.h.

only if it is not a problem for you to do so, then that's probably the best way
unless there is some benefit to using the std:: version that i am not aware of.

> hopefully we can avoid source changes.

ok, i'll operate under the assumption that you'll come up with a solution that
meets everyone's need and doesn't need special source for each platform.

> However I would like configure to be
> able to set the compiler flags properly.

as would i.  i'm looking into how this configure beast works to see if i can
come up with a solution.  if anyone is familiar with the internals of the
configure process i could use a couple pointers.  thanks!!

cheers!!

-brian
-- 
"I mean Twinkies are good but getting shot really hurts."
-- http://www.thisisatastyburger.com/ --



RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> I determined what changes I needed to make -- the beta series wheel
> mouse patch only applies to switching workspaces, and thus only affected
> Screen.cc; the original patch I had was from x0r, and also had code for
> the window shading and thus affected Window.cc. I determined where to
> insert the code, did so, compiled, and everything works beautifully now.
> 
> Since I know others on the list like to use this particular patch, I've
> now got another question: how do I make the patch? I'm not a C
> programmer, and I don't normally create or use patches. Do I simply do a
> diff on my files versus the original source?
> 

basically.

cd blackbox
make distclean
cd ..
cp -a blackbox blackbox-orig
cd blackbox

make distclean
cd ..
diff -pruN blackbox-orig blackbox > mystuff.patch

the -pru option is the format I prefer, other projects may request -prc.

Once you have your patch go to sf.net and place it on blackbox's patch tracker
so others can enjoy.



beta3 and bbappconf iconic

2002-07-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney

I'm not sure exactly when I started using bbappconf -- if it was with
0.62.1 or with an early 0.65 alpha. However, when I originally used it,
running "bbappconf -i" wouldn't iconify bbappconf properly -- I'd get a
little, blank, decorless window in my upper left screen on each
workspace. As a result, I started using "bbappconf -w" so I at least
wouldn't see it so much (I run my slit as autohide).

Recently, in alpha8, I discovered it was once again iconifying properly.
Then, today, when I upgraded to beta3, it reverted to it's weird
behavior once again.

Is this a problem with bbappconf? Or is there code that has changed and
changed back again for the bbtools that would cause this behaviour?

I don't notice the same thing happening with bbkeys, the only other
bbtool I currently run, which leads me to believe it's a problem with
bbappconf...

Anybody else noticing this? figured out a patch?

Matthew



RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney

I determined what changes I needed to make -- the beta series wheel
mouse patch only applies to switching workspaces, and thus only affected
Screen.cc; the original patch I had was from x0r, and also had code for
the window shading and thus affected Window.cc. I determined where to
insert the code, did so, compiled, and everything works beautifully now.

Since I know others on the list like to use this particular patch, I've
now got another question: how do I make the patch? I'm not a C
programmer, and I don't normally create or use patches. Do I simply do a
diff on my files versus the original source?

Thanks,
Matthew

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 11:18, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 10:55, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > 
> > On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> > > I just installed beta3 on one of my machines, and most everything seems
> > > rock solid. The only thing that I'm missing is a feature I'd noticed and
> > > liked that I first saw in the alpha series (I'm running alpha7 on my
> > > other box) -- being able to shade a window using the mouse wheel.
> > > 
> > > Has this feature been removed from the 0.65 series? (i.e., did it
> > > accidently creep into the alpha and was later removed for addition in
> > > 0.70?)
> > > 
> > > --Matthew
> > 
> > It was never in blackbox.  There have been patches but it was not added to the
> > official code base.
> That would explain it -- I use the wheel-mouse patches when I compile,
> and the beta-series patch must differ from the one I used when compiling
> the alpha series. I'll see if I can determine what's different and
> perhaps upload the new one.
> 
> Thanks!
> Matthew



RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney

On Tue, 2002-07-23 at 10:55, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> > I just installed beta3 on one of my machines, and most everything seems
> > rock solid. The only thing that I'm missing is a feature I'd noticed and
> > liked that I first saw in the alpha series (I'm running alpha7 on my
> > other box) -- being able to shade a window using the mouse wheel.
> > 
> > Has this feature been removed from the 0.65 series? (i.e., did it
> > accidently creep into the alpha and was later removed for addition in
> > 0.70?)
> > 
> > --Matthew
> 
> It was never in blackbox.  There have been patches but it was not added to the
> official code base.
That would explain it -- I use the wheel-mouse patches when I compile,
and the beta-series patch must differ from the one I used when compiling
the alpha series. I'll see if I can determine what's different and
perhaps upload the new one.

Thanks!
Matthew



RE: beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 23-Jul-2002 Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> I just installed beta3 on one of my machines, and most everything seems
> rock solid. The only thing that I'm missing is a feature I'd noticed and
> liked that I first saw in the alpha series (I'm running alpha7 on my
> other box) -- being able to shade a window using the mouse wheel.
> 
> Has this feature been removed from the 0.65 series? (i.e., did it
> accidently creep into the alpha and was later removed for addition in
> 0.70?)
> 
> --Matthew

It was never in blackbox.  There have been patches but it was not added to the
official code base.



beta3 mouse shading

2002-07-23 Thread Matthew Weier O'Phinney

I just installed beta3 on one of my machines, and most everything seems
rock solid. The only thing that I'm missing is a feature I'd noticed and
liked that I first saw in the alpha series (I'm running alpha7 on my
other box) -- being able to shade a window using the mouse wheel.

Has this feature been removed from the 0.65 series? (i.e., did it
accidently creep into the alpha and was later removed for addition in
0.70?)

--Matthew



Re: [eloli@hotmail.com: Blackbox web site]

2002-07-23 Thread Roman Neuhauser

> Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:05:43 -0400
> From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Blackbox web site]
> 
> "Mr. Brigham Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Originally I understood the use of "Un*x" was to protect against
> > lawsuits from AT&T during the great BSD Freedom wars.
> 
> Yes; and IIRC "UNIX" (ie all upper-case) is still a trademark of
> AT&T/Bell Labs, no?

no, it belongs to The Open Group (http://www.opengroup.org/)

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