[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Region Codec matrix really needed
Hi, If the question ask calls in same region should use g711 and calls in different regions use g729 Do we really have to define region wise codecs in region setup page or just creating the region is enough ? because if we have InterAregion Codec = g711/g722 and interEregion Codec = g279 in service parameter then we would not have a need to set these again in region setup page right?? ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Region Codec matrix really needed
You are correct. However, I have found its a short config process to setup the region codec as it should be per the question simply for piece of mind and to rule out any potential bugs in the software. Josh On Jun 5, 2013 5:52 AM, ccie2k12 ccie2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If the question ask calls in same region should use g711 and calls in different regions use g729 ** ** Do we really have to define region wise codecs in region setup page or just creating the region is enough ? because if we have InterAregion Codec = g711/g722 and interEregion Codec = g279 in service parameter then we would not have a need to set these again in region setup page right?? ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUE NTP - Best practices
hi Guys, Still waiting for a reply. Please assist. -MJ On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:34 AM, sanity insanity networksanitytoinsan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I have the following questions 1) which is the best way to bind the service module to the router is it requried to bind it to the loopback of the router or the interface voice vlan? Also is there any other routing related problems that we need to take account before doing this? 2) On my HQ router I am configuring it to sync with a back NTP server. I am also required to sync the CUCM publisher with the loopback of this HQ router . Here are my questions... a) I have the following configuration on the HQ router... ntp source Loopback0 ntp server 177.26.1.100 Is any other command required ? or the above is enough ? 3) On CUCM PUB I have added the NTP server and given it the ip address of loopback of HQ router. Now my questions are... 1) Is a reboot of CUCM required? 2) If the ntp does not sync will my DB replication break after a few hours? -MJ ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUE NTP - Best practices
Be prepared for it to break, I just restart ntp on both pub and sub this typically fixes it. Regards, Hugo On Jun 4, 2013, at 6:55 PM, sanity insanity networksanitytoinsan...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I have the following questions 1) which is the best way to bind the service module to the router is it requried to bind it to the loopback of the router or the interface voice vlan? Also is there any other routing related problems that we need to take account before doing this? 2) On my HQ router I am configuring it to sync with a back NTP server. I am also required to sync the CUCM publisher with the loopback of this HQ router . Here are my questions... a) I have the following configuration on the HQ router... ntp source Loopback0 ntp server 177.26.1.100 Is any other command required ? or the above is enough ? 3) On CUCM PUB I have added the NTP server and given it the ip address of loopback of HQ router. Now my questions are... 1) Is a reboot of CUCM required? 2) If the ntp does not sync will my DB replication break after a few hours? -MJ ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab strategy
hi Everyone,I need your inputshere. I have been trying to complete mock and practice labs in 8 hours . However their I am unable to finishor I finish with lab with a lot of mistakes with no time for testing.I also realize that I lose thing in the first half and speed up during the end . Generally I take...1) 10 mins to test if all equipment is working fine( 10 mins)2) read theworkbook questions for the next 15 mins3) Make note of the ip addresses and router configurationper site in25 mins4) Make note of all cucm configuration , cups , unity connection , uccx and cue for another dial plan20 mins5) Now from point 5 I start with lab configurations fromBranch 2( site c which is a mgcp gateway and srstsetup)this generally takes me about1 and a half hour to just complete allconfiguration ( 1 hour and 30 mins)6) Then I move to Branch 1 ( site B which is a H323 gateway with srst)this generally takes about45 50 mins7) I then move to HQ ( R1 which is MGCP gateway with srst )this generally takes20 mins .8) Basic setup of DP , css, aar, NTP , service parameters and enterprise para, vlans , dhcpand ip phone registration takes 50 mins9) CUC integ and other configincluding recording takes20mins10 ) CUE integration and trafer setuptakes 20 mins11) UCCX integration , One button , script and recording takes40 mins12) CUPs integration and client setup takes20 mins13 )I then come back to callmanger and do the media resource setup , gateways added cucm , other configuration such as MVA , RSVP , + dial , adding trunks , unassigned dn setupto CUC this takes50 mins14 ) Then I move to the Route pattern setup on callmanger this I do for 3 sites HQ , Site B and Site Cwith or without redundancy on callmanger this takes 25 mins15 ) Thendo this such as RTMT log collection and indicating information in seperate files , MGCP debugsthis takes another 15 mins16 ) Switch and WAN QOS this I plan to doonly if time permits as this is a complex sectionQuestions :== =1) I barely am able to finish things in time . I have heard from on this forum thatthere arecandidates who finish it is 5 6 hours . Would anyone be able to share with me as to how they do this ?2) Even if the above I complete exercises are complete there are sections where I miss out on configurations. How do I make sure all config for all sections is done correctly?3) I really wish I am able to finish the lab in 6 hours so that I can test for another 2 hours . Could someone therefore check the above 16 points and let me know about the time I can reduce.4) As you can see above the router configurations consume a bit more time making ( points 5 , 6 , 7 ) . I have tried with both using a notepad to type the configurations and then paste also with typing on cli but both these methods takearound the same time. Please let me know what best method I canuse for points 5 , 6 , 7.5) Other suggestions are most welcome .Thanks guys in advance for all your help!Regards,SinghG et Yourself a cool, short @in.com Email ID now! ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab strategy
Let me say, I've never sat the lab so I'm just commenting on my own study experience. - Points 3 4 are probably consuming too much time. Documenting IP's is good but I don't currently go through and check configs. I figure i'll get to it when it's time to configure that piece and if there are issues I'll do my troubleshooting then. - 1.5hrs for Br2 seems like a long time. I think you can get quicker with that part and do it in 45min or less, depending on the complexity. Just with those savings you're getting closer to your 6 hour goal. I use notepad for anything that can be repeated like dial-peers, translation rules/patterns, dspfarm, QoS, etc. I think its MUCH faster than manually typing the configs each time. I always configure BR1 first so most of the time I'm just tweaking some settings and pasting into BR2. Just my input based on my own studies. I'm sure there are veterans out there who have a better insight into saving time. I'm interested to hear their take as well. Marty On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:58 AM, singh singh8...@in.com wrote: hi Everyone, I need your inputs here. I have been trying to complete mock and practice labs in 8 hours . However their I am unable to finish or I finish with lab with a lot of mistakes with no time for testing. I also realize that I lose thing in the first half and speed up during the end . Generally I take... 1) 10 mins to test if all equipment is working fine ( 10 mins) 2) read the workbook questions for the next 15 mins 3) Make note of the ip addresses and router configuration per site in 25 mins 4) Make note of all cucm configuration , cups , unity connection , uccx and cue for another dial plan 20 mins 5) Now from point 5 - I start with lab configurations from Branch 2 ( site c - which is a mgcp gateway and srst setup) this generally takes me about 1 and a half hour to just complete all configuration ( 1 hour and 30 mins) 6) Then I move to Branch 1 ( site B - which is a H323 gateway with srst) this ge nerally takes about 45 - 50 mins 7) I then move to HQ ( R1 - which is MGCP gateway with srst ) this generally takes 20 mins . 8) Basic setup of DP , css, aar, NTP , service parameters and enterprise para , vlans , dhcp and ip phone registration takes 50 mins 9) CUC integ and other config including recording takes 20 mins 10 ) CUE integration and trafer setup takes 20 mins 11) UCCX integration , One button , script and recording takes 40 mins 12) CUPs integration and client setup takes 20 mins 13 )I then come back to callmanger and do the media resource setup , gateways added cucm , other configuration such as MVA , RSVP , + dial , adding trunks , unassigned dn setup to CUC - this takes 50 mins 14 ) Then I move to the Route pattern setup on callmanger this I do for 3 sites - HQ , Site B and Site C with or without redundancy on callmanger this takes 25 mins 15 ) Then do this such as RTMT log collection and indicating informa tion in seperate files , MGCP debugs this takes another 15 mins 16 ) Switch and WAN QOS this I plan to do only if time permits as this is a complex section Questions : === 1) I barely am able to finish things in time . I have heard from on this forum that there are candidates who finish it is 5 - 6 hours . Would anyone be able to share with me as to how they do this ? 2) Even if the above I complete exercises are complete there are sections where I miss out on configurations. How do I make sure all config for all sections is done correctly? 3) I really wish I am able to finish the lab in 6 hours so that I can test for another 2 hours . Could someone therefore check the above 16 points and let me know about the time I can reduce. 4) As you can see above the router configurations consume a bit more time making ( points 5 , 6 , 7 ) . I have tried with both using a notepad to type the configurations and then paste also with typing on cli but both these methods take around the same time. Please let me know what best method I can use for points 5 , 6 , 7. 5) Other suggestions are most welcome . Thanks guys in advance for all your help! Regards, Singh Get Yourself a cool, short *@in.com* Email ID now!http://www3.in.com/sso/commonregister.php?ref=INutm_source=inviteutm_medium=outgoing ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CUE NTP - Best practices
1) which is the best way to bind the service module to the router is it required to bind it to the loopback of the router or the interface voice VLAN. Answer: It depends on the question it could be either the Loopback or the Voice VLAN it should say in the LAB. In my practice I use both alternating, one lab I'll use the Voice VLAN and then on another run through the lab I'll use the Loopback. Note that people have had issues using the Loopback so best to figure it out before setting the LAB. 2) On my HQ router I am configuring it to sync with a back NTP server. I am also required to sync the CUCM publisher with the loopback of this HQ router . Here are my questions... a) I have the following configuration on the HQ router... ntp source Loopback0 ntp server 177.26.1.100 HQ ntp configuration: ntp source Loopback0 ntp server 177.26.1.100 burst iburst 3) On CUCM PUB I have added the NTP server and given it the ip address of loopback of HQ router. Now my questions are... 1) Is a reboot of CUCM required? No 2) If the ntp does not sync will my DB replication break after a few hours? Answer: If the NTP Server does not synchronize need to determine why. When I've had issues in the past with NTP not synchronizing it did not break dbreplication over a period of hours. Although I suppose there's that possibility. Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaberation
Hi friends, Any news on our subject!! Regards. khaled From: hugo.barr...@nexusis.com To: whl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:12:43 + CC: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Collaberation Well spoken Bill 100% agree. Regards, Hugo On Jun 3, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com wrote: Right you can continue to pass written exams and prove you are current with technology. But what will you do when you apply for a job that requires or desires CCIE Collaboration? CCIE voice will join the CCIE's of the pass that were retired, you will still be a CCIE but you will be considered less important because your CCIE is on outdated technology, like CCIE ISP Dial or CCIE SNA/IP integration do you see anyone asking for them now? So I would prefer to have a grandfather or upgrade path instead of having to take the CCIE Collaboration exam For those that say why not just get dual CCIE with CCIE Collaboration as it should be easy, name the people who say their CCIE was easy and would gladly pay 1500 more to take it again just to renew their current CCIE. No if I want to get a dual CCIE, I want to earn it in another track, not another voice or communications centric track Bill On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Leslie Meade leslie.me...@lvs1.com wrote: Wonder what this means…. http://ciscocert.force.com/english/articles/Article/CCIE-Collaboration-Certification-CCIE-Voice-can-be-recertified-EN?retURL=%2Fenglish%2Fapex%2Finstantanswers%3FproductCategory%3DCCIE_collaborationpopup=false The CCIE Collaboration certification does not directly affect current CCIE Voice certification holders. Current CCIE Voice holders will be able to recertify by passing any CCIE exam including the new CCIE Collaboration written or lab exams. The CCIE Collaboration certification provides new career opportunities for CCIE Voice certification holders Leslie Meade image001.jpg Bach Information Technology CCNA CCVP CCIE Voice 38727 Network Consultant .. Mobile:778.228.4339 | Main: 604.676.5239 Email: leslie.me...@lvs1.com image002.jpg image003.jpg image004.jpg image005.jpg image006.jpgimage007.gif www.longviewsystems.com This message and any attached documents are only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential and may contain privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, retransmission, or other disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify the sender immediately, and delete the original message. ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Folks: I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the concerns being posted. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 -Original Message- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of michael.se...@compucom.com Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Importance: High If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Daniel, First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an acknowledgement that our message has been received. The right thing comment was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right direction. Even if it has been incremental. So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, stay on message, and (as always) be polite. -Bill -- William Bell, CCIE #38914 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote: Folks: I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the concerns being posted. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 -Original Message- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of michael.se...@compucom.com Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Importance: High If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
This post was made on the Learning @ Cisco Facebook page: To all of our CCIE Voice professionals. Here is a statement from Fred Weiller, Director of Marketing at Learning@Cisco: We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the CCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible. It seems the request for a migration path via written exam will be the way forward. Thanks, Mike On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM, William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com wrote: Daniel, First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an acknowledgement that our message has been received. The right thing comment was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right direction. Even if it has been incremental. So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, stay on message, and (as always) be polite. -Bill -- William Bell, CCIE #38914 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote: Folks: I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the concerns being posted. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 -Original Message- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of michael.se...@compucom.com Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Importance: High If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
FYI. The CCIE WINS its voice back! http://bit.ly/11ise6g Great job to everyone on this list for getting together and pushing for change. Daniel said it best! -Bil -- William Bell, CCIE #38914 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote: Folks: I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the concerns being posted. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 -Original Message- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of michael.se...@compucom.com Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Importance: High If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Just released. To all of our CCIE Voice professionals. Here is a statement from the Director of Marketing at Learning@Cisco: We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the CCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible. Just the messenger, Josh Reola www.ciscosimplified.com Sent from my iPhone On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:40 PM, William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com wrote: Daniel, First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an acknowledgement that our message has been received. The right thing comment was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right direction. Even if it has been incremental. So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, stay on message, and (as always) be polite. -Bill -- William Bell, CCIE #38914 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote: Folks: I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the concerns being posted. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 -Original Message- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of michael.se...@compucom.com Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Importance: High If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE
don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the concerns being posted. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 -Original Message- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of michael.se...@compucom.com Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Importance: High If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /archives/ccie_voice/attachments/20130605/681c7fcb/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:33:50 -0400 From: Michael Miller kf4...@gmail.com To: William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, michael.se...@compucom.com michael.se...@compucom.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Message-ID: cafzrabznqkfnksyjb4x4yxija+no_q-3zlucespef0kb2dj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 This post was made on the Learning @ Cisco Facebook page: To all of our CCIE Voice professionals. Here is a statement from Fred Weiller, Director of Marketing at Learning@Cisco: We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the CCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible. It seems the request for a migration path via written exam will be the way forward. Thanks, Mike On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM, William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com wrote: Daniel, First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an acknowledgement that our message has been received. The right thing comment was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right direction. Even if it has been incremental. So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, stay on message, and (as always) be polite. -Bill -- William Bell, CCIE #38914 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote: Folks: I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 88, Issue 33
www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /archives/ccie_voice/attachments/20130605/681c7fcb/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:33:50 -0400 From: Michael Miller kf4...@gmail.com To: William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, michael.se...@compucom.com michael.se...@compucom.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Message-ID: cafzrabznqkfnksyjb4x4yxija+no_q-3zlucespef0kb2dj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 This post was made on the Learning @ Cisco Facebook page: To all of our CCIE Voice professionals. Here is a statement from Fred Weiller, Director of Marketing at Learning@Cisco: We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the CCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible. It seems the request for a migration path via written exam will be the way forward. Thanks, Mike On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM, William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com wrote: Daniel, First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an acknowledgement that our message has been received. The right thing comment was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right direction. Even if it has been incremental. So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, stay on message, and (as always) be polite. -Bill -- William Bell, CCIE #38914 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla On Jun 5, 2013, at 2:14 PM, Daniel Pagan dpa...@fidelus.com wrote: Folks: I'm sure many of you are already aware of this news, but one of the heads of Collaboration @ Cisco (I believe Rowan) has made a brief statement today saying, we will do the right thing for everyone. There's also some rumors floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the concerns being posted. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 -Original Message- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of michael.se...@compucom.com Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Importance: High If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
Just got this in my email: Hi All, Great news! Cisco has made the following announcement: We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_collaborationCCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_voice CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 Regards, Rigo Cisco Learning Network Moderator Jason Nielsen On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM, michael.se...@compucom.com wrote: If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab strategy
Just my personal experience when I failed my first lab attempt. CUE is at the forefront of the time waster. Simply because it requires constant reboot if mistake is made and every reboots take a long time too. 10 ) CUE integration and trafer setup takes 20 mins My brain seems to go numb at times too. Simple stuff becomes a lot harder, and I still looking back on the day as how on earth I miss that easy fix. Not saying that without it I would pass, I just think I wouldn't the thoroughly outclassed by it. Regards, --Somphol. --Somphol On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Martin Sloan martinsloa...@gmail.comwrote: Let me say, I've never sat the lab so I'm just commenting on my own study experience. - Points 3 4 are probably consuming too much time. Documenting IP's is good but I don't currently go through and check configs. I figure i'll get to it when it's time to configure that piece and if there are issues I'll do my troubleshooting then. - 1.5hrs for Br2 seems like a long time. I think you can get quicker with that part and do it in 45min or less, depending on the complexity. Just with those savings you're getting closer to your 6 hour goal. I use notepad for anything that can be repeated like dial-peers, translation rules/patterns, dspfarm, QoS, etc. I think its MUCH faster than manually typing the configs each time. I always configure BR1 first so most of the time I'm just tweaking some settings and pasting into BR2. Just my input based on my own studies. I'm sure there are veterans out there who have a better insight into saving time. I'm interested to hear their take as well. Marty On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:58 AM, singh singh8...@in.com wrote: hi Everyone, I need your inputs here. I have been trying to complete mock and practice labs in 8 hours . However their I am unable to finish or I finish with lab with a lot of mistakes with no time for testing. I also realize that I lose thing in the first half and speed up during the end . Generally I take... 1) 10 mins to test if all equipment is working fine ( 10 mins) 2) read the workbook questions for the next 15 mins 3) Make note of the ip addresses and router configuration per site in 25 mins 4) Make note of all cucm configuration , cups , unity connection , uccx and cue for another dial plan 20 mins 5) Now from point 5 - I start with lab configurations from Branch 2 ( site c - which is a mgcp gateway and srst setup) this generally takes me about 1 and a half hour to just complete all configuration ( 1 hour and 30 mins) 6) Then I move to Branch 1 ( site B - which is a H323 gateway with srst) this ge nerally takes about 45 - 50 mins 7) I then move to HQ ( R1 - which is MGCP gateway with srst ) this generally takes 20 mins . 8) Basic setup of DP , css, aar, NTP , service parameters and enterprise para , vlans , dhcp and ip phone registration takes 50 mins 9) CUC integ and other config including recording takes 20 mins 10 ) CUE integration and trafer setup takes 20 mins 11) UCCX integration , One button , script and recording takes 40 mins 12) CUPs integration and client setup takes 20 mins 13 )I then come back to callmanger and do the media resource setup , gateways added cucm , other configuration such as MVA , RSVP , + dial , adding trunks , unassigned dn setup to CUC - this takes 50 mins 14 ) Then I move to the Route pattern setup on callmanger this I do for 3 sites - HQ , Site B and Site C with or without redundancy on callmanger this takes 25 mins 15 ) Then do this such as RTMT log collection and indicating informa tion in seperate files , MGCP debugs this takes another 15 mins 16 ) Switch and WAN QOS this I plan to do only if time permits as this is a complex section Questions : === 1) I barely am able to finish things in time . I have heard from on this forum that there are candidates who finish it is 5 - 6 hours . Would anyone be able to share with me as to how they do this ? 2) Even if the above I complete exercises are complete there are sections where I miss out on configurations. How do I make sure all config for all sections is done correctly? 3) I really wish I am able to finish the lab in 6 hours so that I can test for another 2 hours . Could someone therefore check the above 16 points and let me know about the time I can reduce. 4) As you can see above the router configurations consume a bit more time making ( points 5 , 6 , 7 ) . I have tried with both using a notepad to type the configurations and then paste also with typing on cli but both these methods take around the same time. Please let me know what best method I can use for points 5 , 6 , 7. 5) Other suggestions are most welcome . Thanks guys in advance for all your help! Regards, Singh Get Yourself a cool, short *@in.com* Email ID now!http://www3.in.com/sso/commonregister.php?ref=INutm_source=inviteutm_medium=outgoing
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Where are you taking your lab? That has to play into your plan in taking the lab. I took my lab at RTP, my plan was to use the device base approach. 1) I reviewed the outline of the lab, looking for very specific things throughout the lab that required early planning. An example of this would be a System wide parameter that I would need to configure early on. 2) quickly notepad the items I would need throughout the lab 3) rough scope of the lab, my device based approach and dial plan page This took about 20 minutes to complete and in my opinion you should not spend more than 30 and your goal should be 15. At this point I started my device based approach and for me this was my order 1) HQ switch 2) do base to get CUE started and start CUE 3) HQ Router 4) SB router 5) Check on CUE, do anything I thought I needed and could then reboot it 6) SC router 7) finish CUE 8) base CUCM 9) dial-plan with testing as I go all calls in round robin so I am using every phone to make calls (try to complete to this point) when 5 minutes before archive or back up all configs you can just incase Lunch 10) finish CUCM 11) CUC 12) CUPS 13) UCCX 14) Test everything you can Make sure you do not get stuck on one thing, spend 10 minutes and move on, circle back and try to complete it but keep moving. I know it sounds simple but you will be amazed how long you might spend on a 2-3 point item you know you can do when it is costing you other points you could be scoring. During your testing focus on being the proctor and thinking how he might find fault in what you did. Almost working perfectly won't get you the points. Bill On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Martin Sloan martinsloa...@gmail.comwrote: Let me say, I've never sat the lab so I'm just commenting on my own study experience. - Points 3 4 are probably consuming too much time. Documenting IP's is good but I don't currently go through and check configs. I figure i'll get to it when it's time to configure that piece and if there are issues I'll do my troubleshooting then. - 1.5hrs for Br2 seems like a long time. I think you can get quicker with that part and do it in 45min or less, depending on the complexity. Just with those savings you're getting closer to your 6 hour goal. I use notepad for anything that can be repeated like dial-peers, translation rules/patterns, dspfarm, QoS, etc. I think its MUCH faster than manually typing the configs each time. I always configure BR1 first so most of the time I'm just tweaking some settings and pasting into BR2. Just my input based on my own studies. I'm sure there are veterans out there who have a better insight into saving time. I'm interested to hear their take as well. Marty On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:58 AM, singh singh8...@in.com wrote: hi Everyone, I need your inputs here. I have been trying to complete mock and practice labs in 8 hours . However their I am unable to finish or I finish with lab with a lot of mistakes with no time for testing. I also realize that I lose thing in the first half and speed up during the end . Generally I take... 1) 10 mins to test if all equipment is working fine ( 10 mins) 2) read the workbook questions for the next 15 mins 3) Make note of the ip addresses and router configuration per site in 25 mins 4) Make note of all cucm configuration , cups , unity connection , uccx and cue for another dial plan 20 mins 5) Now from point 5 - I start with lab configurations from Branch 2 ( site c - which is a mgcp gateway and srst setup) this generally takes me about 1 and a half hour to just complete all configuration ( 1 hour and 30 mins) 6) Then I move to Branch 1 ( site B - which is a H323 gateway with srst) this ge nerally takes about 45 - 50 mins 7) I then move to HQ ( R1 - which is MGCP gateway with srst ) this generally takes 20 mins . 8) Basic setup of DP , css, aar, NTP , service parameters and enterprise para , vlans , dhcp and ip phone registration takes 50 mins 9) CUC integ and other config including recording takes 20 mins 10 ) CUE integration and trafer setup takes 20 mins 11) UCCX integration , One button , script and recording takes 40 mins 12) CUPs integration and client setup takes 20 mins 13 )I then come back to callmanger and do the media resource setup , gateways added cucm , other configuration such as MVA , RSVP , + dial , adding trunks , unassigned dn setup to CUC - this takes 50 mins 14 ) Then I move to the Route pattern setup on callmanger this I do for 3 sites - HQ , Site B and Site C with or without redundancy on callmanger this takes 25 mins 15 ) Then do this such as RTMT log collection and indicating informa tion in seperate files , MGCP debugs this takes another 15 mins 16 ) Switch and WAN QOS this I plan to do only if time permits as this is a complex section Questions : === 1) I barely am able to finish things in time
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration
This is the post on Cisco website. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 I hope my argument helped and I want to thank all those that spent an equal and thoughtful amount of time on this. Success only means we get a reasonable path to migration and I believe this should be considered a WIN/WIN for both Cisco and us. Bill On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:35 PM, nielsenj niels...@gmail.com wrote: Just got this in my email: Hi All, Great news! Cisco has made the following announcement: We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_collaborationCCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_voiceCCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 Regards, Rigo Cisco Learning Network Moderator Jason Nielsen On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM, michael.se...@compucom.com wrote: If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab strategy
Ok my last email got sent back Where are you taking your lab? That has to play into your plan in taking the lab. I took my lab at RTP, my plan was to use the device base approach. 1) I reviewed the outline of the lab, looking for very specific things throughout the lab that required early planning. An example of this would be a System wide parameter that I would need to configure early on. 2) quickly notepad the items I would need throughout the lab 3) rough scope of the lab, my device based approach and dial plan page This took about 20 minutes to complete and in my opinion you should not spend more than 30 and your goal should be 15. At this point I started my device based approach and for me this was my order 1) HQ switch 2) do base to get CUE started and start CUE 3) HQ Router 4) SB router 5) Check on CUE, do anything I thought I needed and could then reboot it 6) SC router 7) finish CUE 8) base CUCM 9) dial-plan with testing as I go all calls in round robin so I am using every phone to make calls (try to complete to this point) when 5 minutes before archive or back up all configs you can just incase Lunch 10) finish CUCM 11) CUC 12) CUPS 13) UCCX 14) Test everything you can Make sure you do not get stuck on one thing, spend 10 minutes and move on, circle back and try to complete it but keep moving. I know it sounds simple but you will be amazed how long you might spend on a 2-3 point item you know you can do when it is costing you other points you could be scoring. During your testing focus on being the proctor and thinking how he might find fault in what you did. Almost working perfectly won't get you the points. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:58 AM, singh singh8...@in.com wrote: hi Everyone, I need your inputs here. I have been trying to complete mock and practice labs in 8 hours . However their I am unable to finish or I finish with lab with a lot of mistakes with no time for testing. I also realize that I lose thing in the first half and speed up during the end . Generally I take... 1) 10 mins to test if all equipment is working fine ( 10 mins) 2) read the workbook questions for the next 15 mins 3) Make note of the ip addresses and router configuration per site in 25 mins 4) Make note of all cucm configuration , cups , unity connection , uccx and cue for another dial plan 20 mins 5) Now from point 5 - I start with lab configurations from Branch 2 ( site c - which is a mgcp gateway and srst setup) this generally takes me about 1 and a half hour to just complete all configuration ( 1 hour and 30 mins) 6) Then I move to Branch 1 ( site B - which is a H323 gateway with srst) this ge nerally takes about 45 - 50 mins 7) I then move to HQ ( R1 - which is MGCP gateway with srst ) this generally takes 20 mins . 8) Basic setup of DP , css, aar, NTP , service parameters and enterprise para , vlans , dhcp and ip phone registration takes 50 mins 9) CUC integ and other config including recording takes 20 mins 10 ) CUE integration and trafer setup takes 20 mins 11) UCCX integration , One button , script and recording takes 40 mins 12) CUPs integration and client setup takes 20 mins 13 )I then come back to callmanger and do the media resource setup , gateways added cucm , other configuration such as MVA , RSVP , + dial , adding trunks , unassigned dn setup to CUC - this takes 50 mins 14 ) Then I move to the Route pattern setup on callmanger this I do for 3 sites - HQ , Site B and Site C with or without redundancy on callmanger this takes 25 mins 15 ) Then do this such as RTMT log collection and indicating informa tion in seperate files , MGCP debugs this takes another 15 mins 16 ) Switch and WAN QOS this I plan to do only if time permits as this is a complex section Questions : === 1) I barely am able to finish things in time . I have heard from on this forum that there are candidates who finish it is 5 - 6 hours . Would anyone be able to share with me as to how they do this ? 2) Even if the above I complete exercises are complete there are sections where I miss out on configurations. How do I make sure all config for all sections is done correctly? 3) I really wish I am able to finish the lab in 6 hours so that I can test for another 2 hours . Could someone therefore check the above 16 points and let me know about the time I can reduce. 4) As you can see above the router configurations consume a bit more time making ( points 5 , 6 , 7 ) . I have tried with both using a notepad to type the configurations and then paste also with typing on cli but both these methods take around the same time. Please let me know what best method I can use for points 5 , 6 , 7. 5) Other suggestions are most welcome . Thanks guys in advance for all your help! Regards, Singh Get Yourself a cool, short *@in.com* Email ID
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 88, Issue 36
This is awesome news still holding my breath till it becomes official on the Cisco's website, I am now even prouder to be part of this community, a group of people who articulated so well what was wrong, and gave all the right reasons why it should be corrected. I got many grey hairs the past week. -Original Message- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:04 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 88, Issue 36 Send CCIE_Voice mailing list submissions to ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_voice or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com You can reach the person managing the list at ccie_voice-ow...@onlinestudylist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of CCIE_Voice digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration (nielsenj) 2. Re: Lab strategy (Somphol Boonjing) 3. Re: Lab strategy (Bill Lake) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:35:51 -0500 From: nielsenj niels...@gmail.com To: michael.se...@compucom.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Message-ID: caclo9kygnnnpa+bat29sx0srzr-mgmm1yjrt4jkw1yr9qa7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Just got this in my email: Hi All, Great news! Cisco has made the following announcement: We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_collaborationCCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_voice CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 Regards, Rigo Cisco Learning Network Moderator Jason Nielsen On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM, michael.se...@compucom.com wrote: If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /archives/ccie_voice/attachments/20130605/bfbcef1c/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:03:14 +1000 From: Somphol Boonjing somp...@gmail.com To: Martin Sloan martinsloa...@gmail.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, singh singh8...@in.com, ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab strategy Message-ID: cabcktng9rxp6mouzcouq5uukrfzmfa1nod7+ze0hn1obwd0...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Just my personal experience when I failed my first lab attempt. CUE is at the forefront of the time waster. Simply because it requires constant reboot if mistake is made and every reboots take a long time too. 10 ) CUE integration and trafer setup takes 20 mins My brain seems to go numb at times too. Simple stuff becomes a lot harder, and I still looking back on the day as how on earth I miss that easy fix. Not saying that without it I would pass, I just think I wouldn't the thoroughly outclassed by it. Regards, --Somphol. --Somphol On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Martin Sloan martinsloa...@gmail.comwrote: Let me say, I've never sat the lab so I'm just commenting on my own study experience. - Points 3 4 are probably consuming too much time. Documenting IP's is good but I don't currently go through and check configs. I figure i'll get to it when it's time to configure that piece and if there are issues I'll do my troubleshooting then. - 1.5hrs for Br2 seems like a long time. I think you can get quicker with that part and do it in 45min
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab strategy
Thanks, Bill for great information. BTW, if I could ask about your thought on the VNC-only workstation. I don't really understand the logic behind making and RDP available for Windows-based UCCX server, and only supply the VNC session for another utility host. (I was in a rush to such an extent that I couldn't even have time nor effort to spend on finding the password to access the VNC session, I know it is right there somewhere obvious. Sigh. Hope I do better next time.) Regards, --Somphol. --Somphol On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Bill Lake whl...@gmail.com wrote: Where are you taking your lab? That has to play into your plan in taking the lab. I took my lab at RTP, my plan was to use the device base approach. 1) I reviewed the outline of the lab, looking for very specific things throughout the lab that required early planning. An example of this would be a System wide parameter that I would need to configure early on. 2) quickly notepad the items I would need throughout the lab 3) rough scope of the lab, my device based approach and dial plan page This took about 20 minutes to complete and in my opinion you should not spend more than 30 and your goal should be 15. At this point I started my device based approach and for me this was my order 1) HQ switch 2) do base to get CUE started and start CUE 3) HQ Router 4) SB router 5) Check on CUE, do anything I thought I needed and could then reboot it 6) SC router 7) finish CUE 8) base CUCM 9) dial-plan with testing as I go all calls in round robin so I am using every phone to make calls (try to complete to this point) when 5 minutes before archive or back up all configs you can just incase Lunch 10) finish CUCM 11) CUC 12) CUPS 13) UCCX 14) Test everything you can Make sure you do not get stuck on one thing, spend 10 minutes and move on, circle back and try to complete it but keep moving. I know it sounds simple but you will be amazed how long you might spend on a 2-3 point item you know you can do when it is costing you other points you could be scoring. During your testing focus on being the proctor and thinking how he might find fault in what you did. Almost working perfectly won't get you the points. Bill On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Martin Sloan martinsloa...@gmail.comwrote: Let me say, I've never sat the lab so I'm just commenting on my own study experience. - Points 3 4 are probably consuming too much time. Documenting IP's is good but I don't currently go through and check configs. I figure i'll get to it when it's time to configure that piece and if there are issues I'll do my troubleshooting then. - 1.5hrs for Br2 seems like a long time. I think you can get quicker with that part and do it in 45min or less, depending on the complexity. Just with those savings you're getting closer to your 6 hour goal. I use notepad for anything that can be repeated like dial-peers, translation rules/patterns, dspfarm, QoS, etc. I think its MUCH faster than manually typing the configs each time. I always configure BR1 first so most of the time I'm just tweaking some settings and pasting into BR2. Just my input based on my own studies. I'm sure there are veterans out there who have a better insight into saving time. I'm interested to hear their take as well. Marty On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:58 AM, singh singh8...@in.com wrote: hi Everyone, I need your inputs here. I have been trying to complete mock and practice labs in 8 hours . However their I am unable to finish or I finish with lab with a lot of mistakes with no time for testing. I also realize that I lose thing in the first half and speed up during the end . Generally I take... 1) 10 mins to test if all equipment is working fine ( 10 mins) 2) read the workbook questions for the next 15 mins 3) Make note of the ip addresses and router configuration per site in 25 mins 4) Make note of all cucm configuration , cups , unity connection , uccx and cue for another dial plan 20 mins 5) Now from point 5 - I start with lab configurations from Branch 2 ( site c - which is a mgcp gateway and srst setup) this generally takes me about 1 and a half hour to just complete all configuration ( 1 hour and 30 mins) 6) Then I move to Branch 1 ( site B - which is a H323 gateway with srst) this ge nerally takes about 45 - 50 mins 7) I then move to HQ ( R1 - which is MGCP gateway with srst ) this generally takes 20 mins . 8) Basic setup of DP , css, aar, NTP , service parameters and enterprise para , vlans , dhcp and ip phone registration takes 50 mins 9) CUC integ and other config including recording takes 20 mins 10 ) CUE integration and trafer setup takes 20 mins 11) UCCX integration , One button , script and recording takes 40 mins 12) CUPs integration and client setup takes 20 mins 13 )I then come back to callmanger and do the media resource
[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Thank You
Ben, I just pulled away from a timed practice lab to get the news of the CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration transition change about 2 hours late. This is awesome news!! I was a restaurant manager for many years and I know that people can be quick to complain but not so fast to commend, so I wanted to be sure and THANK YOU for changing the policy on the CCIE Voice/Collaboration certifications. Cisco has done the right thing and you have my sincerest gratitude for any part you played in this change. I don't have 'a number' yet, but with this news my enthusiasm to get the certification is restored and I know that you've made a lot folks happy with this change in policy. Thank you again, and hopefully I'll be taking a written exam to get that Collaboration IE instead of the lab. Marty ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE
floating around the Cisco Partner collaboration forums that a manager of the Cisco UC Master program confirmed CCIE Voice will be grandfathered into the CCIE Collab track. I don't believe this is confirmed so please don't hold me to it, but feel free to visit the threads for updated information. Lastly, a community moderator confirmed that Cisco is reviewing all the concerns being posted. https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/56611?start=45tstart=0 https://communities.cisco.com/thread/35337?tstart=0 Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. I'm beginning to see a light at the end of the tunnel. Daniel Pagan, CCIE # 25689 -Original Message- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of michael.se...@compucom.com Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:03 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Importance: High If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: http://chn.ge/17A0zXE Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified Computing Systems ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ___ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /archives/ccie_voice/attachments/20130605/681c7fcb/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:33:50 -0400 From: Michael Miller kf4...@gmail.com To: William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com, michael.se...@compucom.com michael.se...@compucom.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Message-ID: cafzrabznqkfnksyjb4x4yxija+no_q-3zlucespef0kb2dj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 This post was made on the Learning @ Cisco Facebook page: To all of our CCIE Voice professionals. Here is a statement from Fred Weiller, Director of Marketing at Learning@Cisco: We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the CCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible. It seems the request for a migration path via written exam will be the way forward. Thanks, Mike On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM, William Bell b...@ucguerrilla.com wrote: Daniel, First, let me touch on the most important point you have brought up: Honestly, it's really great to see how everyone came together, spoke loudly, and made a difference. Even if the decision isn't reversed, the past few days really demonstrated how dedicated and passionate everyone is to their field and hard-earned certifications. Absolutely outstanding! Everyone has done a great job of keeping this topic on Cisco's radar. Keep it up! Second, I am at the PBT in SJC. Rowan mentioned the CCIE but it was just an acknowledgement that our message has been received. The right thing comment was actually made by another person (name escapes me). Rowan may have echoed the sentiment but no guarantees/promises were made. This isn't bad news. All feedback we have received thus far has been a positive trend in the right direction. Even if it has been incremental. So, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Cisco will want to close this down as fast as possible. Whatever the answer is, we can all be satisfied that we refused to roll over on this. Again, the volume of support within the community is quite impressive. Don't back off the throttle now. Keep pushing, stay on message, and (as always) be polite. -Bill -- William Bell, CCIE #38914 blog: http://ucguerrilla.com Follow me on twitter @ucguerrilla On Jun 5, 2013
