Re: [Chevelle-List] Taller spindle conversion

[Rjmmyers]

Hi Guys,
    I missed the earlier thread about the tall spindle set up, but will add my $.02 anyway.
    I have a 65 elky and I used tall spindles from a 78 buick wagon along with the l1e iroc z 12" rotors. I also used a complete global west suspension set up front and rear.  I replaced the 9" drums out back with 11" drums with praise dyno shoes. WOW, this car stops. I used a power booster from a firebird with the firebird prop valve and this thing stops better than my wife`s caddy STS with 4 wheel discs.
 I know there is controversy about global west, but with my AGR quick ratio box and the global components,the car REALLY handles. Not as well as the STS, but I had a buddy who owns a late firebird formula swear it handles better than the bird. I spent a ton on the suspension and brakes, but do not regret a dime. This elky will put a smile on you face after the first turn. Bob Myers, NC

Re: [Chevelle-List] Taller spindle conversion

[Clint Hooper]

Thanks for all the feedback,guys. I guess I'm going 
to do a lot more research before I make any decisions about the taller spindle 
set-up.
Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 
855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/

Re: [Chevelle-List] '71 and '72 Chevelle Models at Costco... Amazing or what!

[Bad66Chevelle454]

I found these models at Sam's Club also...Im in Riverside, CA.I have the red 72 Vert'. Except the last few times Ive been there, I didnt notice any, but I wasnt really looking...

 -Tim
1966 Chevelle 

Re: [Chevelle-List] '71 and '72 Chevelle Models at Costco... Amazing or what!

[Don]

I have several 68's from little ones to 1:18 scale. They're not perfect but
they're still cool!
Don


Hey folks, I dropped by my local Costco (Orange County, So. Cal.) and lo and
behold I spy some Maisto car models... Aww, what the heck.. I'll
investigate.. I bet they don't hav... Is that a '71 triple-black stripe
delete SS454!? A 71 Medium Blue with white stripe convertible? A Red '72
'vertible? Yikes! I snatched up the '71 Hardtop and 'vert... Someone else
grabbed the '72 before I had a chance to even look at it.. But, best part
is-- $9.99... 1:18 scale..

...I've paid much more than that for much less.. I'll say that much :) They
aren't 100% correct (what $10 model is?) but they're close enough for me :)

Raj
71 Chevelle SS (no one makes Antinque Green Metallic with white stripes
models...)
67 Barracuda Coupe (no one makes 2nd Generation Barracuda models and if they
did it'd be a fastback anyway... hmph!! hehe)

PS: Is there a market for the American Muscle scale cars? I have a 70 SS454
El Camino in silver and an "American Muscle Sreet Mchines" 70 Chevelle SS
pro-street looking car that I won't need anymore since I finally have a '71
model.. hehehe.. I should check on ebay, huh?


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RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount

[Dale McIntosh]

John,

I know the 17119 kit I bought through Summit had both tailpipe
options...behind the rear wheel or almost to the rear bumper.  Who's to
say what it is now, eh?

I'd be interested to hear what they say about the two kits and not only
the mufflers.  If there are truly two kits that depend on the wheelbase
and they are lumping all 64-72 A-bodies into the two kits, then there is
more of a problem.  Remember, the 68 and up have 112" vs. 116" (coupe to
Elky/wagon), where the 67 at least is 115" for all models.

Dale McIntosh



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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-chevelle-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Nasta
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount
> 
> It does seem like there is some conflicting info on their site. I'm
going
> to
> call them tomorrow and verify it. I do believe they told me over the
phone
> that they both come w/ 50 series, and that's what the application
guide
> seems to suggest. The diagram that Dale posted a link to also shows 2
sets
> of tailpipes, and I'm sure it does not come with 2 sets, so I have to
> wonder
> about the accuracy of that diagram. Anyway, we'll all know for sure in
the
> morning.
> 
> John Nasta
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> John:
> First, I think the application guide lists the 52558 (5 inch
50
> series)
> muffler on that line. Second, the kit diagram for the 17119 shows the
> 52533
> (5 inch series 30) muffler. Third, if you look at the product page for
the
> series 30 muffler, it has a sound sample from a '65 Elky, kit #17119.
It's
> confusing because the application guide recommends the series 50 (the
> black
> highlight). I assumed I needed to buy the 17107 kit (no mufflers) with
the
> series 50 mufflers, but that's a lot more $ than the 17119 kit.
> 
> Tom Tomlinson
> '71 Malibu
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Taller spindle conversion

[Clint Hooper]

How much steering lock-to-lock did you lose in the 
conversion,Dave? What are the effects of the increased bumpsteer of the 
conversion? What was the condition of your suspension system on your '70 when 
you performed the conversion? What is the condition of your suspension on your 
72 Elky? Just trying to make sure we are comparing apples to apples here,that's 
all.
Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 
855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dave Studly 
  
   
  110% 
  completely worthwhile.  I have my '70 Chevelle with tall spindles, 12" 
  brakes and Hotchkis a-arms and it's just night and day compared to my stock 
  '72 El Camino.
   
  -Dave
   
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 
10:24 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
[Chevelle-List] Taller spindle conversion
Has anyone done this conversion on their car 
and do you really feel it made a substantial improvement? There seems to be 
two schools of thought on this subject on Team Chevelle. I hate to spend the 
big bucks if it is a small change.
Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 
855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/

RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount

[John Nasta]

It does seem like there is some conflicting info on their site. I'm going to
call them tomorrow and verify it. I do believe they told me over the phone
that they both come w/ 50 series, and that's what the application guide
seems to suggest. The diagram that Dale posted a link to also shows 2 sets
of tailpipes, and I'm sure it does not come with 2 sets, so I have to wonder
about the accuracy of that diagram. Anyway, we'll all know for sure in the
morning.

John Nasta



-Original Message-

John:
First, I think the application guide lists the 52558 (5 inch 50
series)
muffler on that line. Second, the kit diagram for the 17119 shows the 52533
(5 inch series 30) muffler. Third, if you look at the product page for the
series 30 muffler, it has a sound sample from a '65 Elky, kit #17119. It's
confusing because the application guide recommends the series 50 (the black
highlight). I assumed I needed to buy the 17107 kit (no mufflers) with the
series 50 mufflers, but that's a lot more $ than the 17119 kit.

Tom Tomlinson
'71 Malibu




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Re: [Chevelle-List] Taller spindle conversion

[Clint Hooper]

Buying all the parts new requires a hefty chunk of 
change so I'm not convinced yet it's worth the cost. My old 68 El Camino with 
PST polygraphite bushings in front, Del-a-lum in the rear boxed arms,Hellwig 1 
1/4" front swaybar & 1" rear,KYB shocks,and 17x8 TT II wheels all around 
with BFG Comp T/A ZR tires was a very good handler. Not a slot car but 
nonetheless a fun car to drive daily.
FWIW,bigger brakes have little to do with 
better handling. Also,if running 17" or larger diameter wheels,it costs about 
the same amount to purchase 13" brakes as 12"s.
Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 
855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dale McIntosh 
  
   
  
  Clint,
   
  There are a few that 
  have done it that lurk at Team Chevelle in the Brakes & Suspension 
  forum.  They swear by the tall 
  spindle theory but I don’t know if that’s just a side effect of getting 12” 
  brakes or not.  With my 13” 
  BOLT-ON-TO-STOCK-SPINDLES Baer system and the 17” Nitto tires, the old 
  Chevelle handles as well as I need. :*)
  
  Dale 
  McIntosh TC Gold 
  #92/ACES #1709 67SS/67 
  Elky Dale's Place 
  Team 
  67 Midwest Chevelle 
  Regionals 
  

RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount

[Tom Tomlinson]

John:
First, I think the application guide lists the 52558 (5 inch 50 series)
muffler on that line. Second, the kit diagram for the 17119 shows the 52533
(5 inch series 30) muffler. Third, if you look at the product page for the
series 30 muffler, it has a sound sample from a '65 Elky, kit #17119. It's
confusing because the application guide recommends the series 50 (the black
highlight). I assumed I needed to buy the 17107 kit (no mufflers) with the
series 50 mufflers, but that's a lot more $ than the 17119 kit.

Tom Tomlinson
'71 Malibu

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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount


Hi Dale,

How are you finding which muffler comes with which kit? I checked out the
links you posted, but I'm still wondering how you found them. When I cruise
around their site, I don't see where the info is listed.

I am looking at the Chevy application chart, and the 2 kits are listed on
the same line. The 52456 (5-inch 50 series) is highlighted by a black block
with white type, so I was assuming that this means that these are the
mufflers that come with both kits. Also, I have been checking other catalogs
and have seen the 17119 listed saying that it comes with 50 series mufflers.
Also, in my phone calls with them, I do believe they said that both kits
come with 50 series mufflers. I'll have to check it out tomorrow because
they are closed for the day.

John Nasta



-Original Message-

The wheelbase (for 1967's anyway) is 115" for all models.  I think it's
the 68 and up that the wagon/Elky is 4" longer (116" vs. 112") so for a
pre-68 Elky or wagon, would you need the longer 17120 kit?  Since the
kits are really ~universal~ GM A-body from 64-72, it would behoove the
buyer to be aware of the wheel base of their car  before ordering to
ensure they get a kit that will fit.

The mufflers are not even the same - at least according to the
FlowMaster website.  The muffler numbers were taken straight off their
website.  I went to What's New and did a search on the two kits.  The
17119 kit shows all the parts at
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/web10/openrd/showthread.php?s=3a1868eda897
63744ed542d02d49ba76&threadid=319&highlight=17119

The 17120 kit shows all its parts at
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/web10/openrd/showthread.php?s=3a1868ed
a89763744ed542d02d49ba76&threadid=318&highlight=17120 clearly showing
different mufflers.

Let's see...the $30 less expensive kit ($299 vs. $329) has $60 more in
muffler costs ($109x2=$218 vs. $80x2=$160) so the longer (albeit
different) pipes and the stainless steel tips (which may be correct for
68 and up ?) cars costs $88 more in the long run?  The $30 difference
would make more sense if both kits had the same mufflers, but again,
according to their website, they don't have the same mufflers.  Am I
missing something here or have the parts included in the kits been
changed and the website (plus their .PDF catalog file) does not reflect
what is really included?

Dale

> My first thought was the different mufflers made the difference in
> price.  Not so.  The 52533 mufflers in the less expensive kit ($299)
are
> almost $30 more EACH (Summit price $109 for the muffler) than the
52558
> mufflers in the more expensive ($329) kit (Summit price of $80 for the
> muffler).  For $299 you get mufflers costing $218 and for $329 you get
> mufflers costing $160.  Strange (???).





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-chevelle-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Nasta
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount
>
> Very interesting. One thing I do know is that the El Camino / Wagon
frame
> has a 4" longer wheelbase. So, the 17119 would be too short for an El
> Camino, and the part that is meant to go over the rear axle wouldn't
> clear.
> The 17120 kit can be made to fit the 2dr Chevelle / Malibu by cutting
4"
> off
> of the H-pipe.
>
> The H-pipes are different because they are different lengths. The
> tailpipes
> are different because one is made to exit the side and the other the
rear.
> The 11720 tailpipes also come with stainless steel tips already welded
on.
> Therefore the only thing that the 11719 and 11720 have in common is
the 50
> series mufflers.
>
> John Nasta
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>


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RE: [Chevelle-List] Taller spindle conversion

[Dale McIntosh]

There you go, a satisfied customer!



Dale McIntosh 
TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 
67SS/67 Elky 
Dale's Place 
Team 67 
Midwest Chevelle Regionals 







Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List]
Taller spindle conversion

 



110% completely worthwhile.  I have
my '70 Chevelle with tall spindles, 12" brakes and Hotchkis a-arms and
it's just night and day compared to my stock '72 El Camino.





 





-Dave





 

RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount

[Dale McIntosh]

John,

On their home page of
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/web10/indexf5.html, I clicked the
~It's New~ button on the left.  From the nav bar at the top of the page
I clicked ~search~.  I input the American Thunder part number (from
their .PDF file you mention) in the ~Search By Keyword~ block and it
turns up one item found.  You can either click the link to 17119 (with
the paperclip) under the ~Thread~ column heading and it shows an
exploded view of the parts that are in the 17119.  Same was done with
the 17120 kit.

If you click the ~Kit Diagram Database~ link (instead of the part number
found), it displays a list of all the kits and their components.

I suppose it's possible that the designs and specs changed since these
were drawn up, maybe the staff you spoke with just assumed one over the
other, or (worse yet), the packaging and shipping dept assume one over
the other.  The posted date both kits is 10-15-2001 but I'm sure this is
just the date the admin posted the information.

I saved both pics for future reference.  If you still can't find them on
the web, let me know and I'll send them to you offline.  They are only
25Kb each in .JPG format.  Better yet, I'll send them to you offline
anyway. 

Dale McIntosh



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RE: [Chevelle-List] Taller spindle conversion

[Dave Studly]

110% 
completely worthwhile.  I have my '70 Chevelle with tall spindles, 12" 
brakes and Hotchkis a-arms and it's just night and day compared to my stock '72 
El Camino.
 
-Dave
 

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clint 
  HooperSent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:24 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] Taller spindle 
  conversion
  Has anyone done this conversion on their car and 
  do you really feel it made a substantial improvement? There seems to be two 
  schools of thought on this subject on Team Chevelle. I hate to spend the big 
  bucks if it is a small change.
  Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 
  855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/

RE: [Chevelle-List] Taller spindle conversion

[Dale McIntosh]

Clint,

 

There are a few that have done it that
lurk at Team Chevelle in the Brakes & Suspension forum.  They swear by the tall spindle theory but I
don’t know if that’s just a side effect of getting 12” brakes
or not.  With my 13” BOLT-ON-TO-STOCK-SPINDLES
Baer system and the 17” Nitto tires, the old Chevelle handles as well as
I need. :*)



Dale McIntosh 
TC Gold #92/ACES #1709 
67SS/67 Elky 
Dale's Place 
Team 67 
Midwest Chevelle Regionals 









-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Clint
 Hooper
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002
9:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chevelle-List] Taller
spindle conversion

 



Has anyone done this conversion on their car and do you
really feel it made a substantial improvement? There seems to be two schools of
thought on this subject on Team Chevelle. I hate to spend the big bucks if it
is a small change.





Clint Hooper
LT5 Registry Director
Wichita Falls,Tx
(940) 855-6636
'91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody
TX TAGS: USA ZR1
http://www.LT5Registry.net/

RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount

[John Nasta]

Hi Dale,

How are you finding which muffler comes with which kit? I checked out the
links you posted, but I'm still wondering how you found them. When I cruise
around their site, I don't see where the info is listed.

I am looking at the Chevy application chart, and the 2 kits are listed on
the same line. The 52456 (5-inch 50 series) is highlighted by a black block
with white type, so I was assuming that this means that these are the
mufflers that come with both kits. Also, I have been checking other catalogs
and have seen the 17119 listed saying that it comes with 50 series mufflers.
Also, in my phone calls with them, I do believe they said that both kits
come with 50 series mufflers. I'll have to check it out tomorrow because
they are closed for the day.

John Nasta



-Original Message-

The wheelbase (for 1967's anyway) is 115" for all models.  I think it's
the 68 and up that the wagon/Elky is 4" longer (116" vs. 112") so for a
pre-68 Elky or wagon, would you need the longer 17120 kit?  Since the
kits are really ~universal~ GM A-body from 64-72, it would behoove the
buyer to be aware of the wheel base of their car  before ordering to
ensure they get a kit that will fit.

The mufflers are not even the same - at least according to the
FlowMaster website.  The muffler numbers were taken straight off their
website.  I went to What's New and did a search on the two kits.  The
17119 kit shows all the parts at
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/web10/openrd/showthread.php?s=3a1868eda897
63744ed542d02d49ba76&threadid=319&highlight=17119

The 17120 kit shows all its parts at
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/web10/openrd/showthread.php?s=3a1868ed
a89763744ed542d02d49ba76&threadid=318&highlight=17120 clearly showing
different mufflers.

Let's see...the $30 less expensive kit ($299 vs. $329) has $60 more in
muffler costs ($109x2=$218 vs. $80x2=$160) so the longer (albeit
different) pipes and the stainless steel tips (which may be correct for
68 and up ?) cars costs $88 more in the long run?  The $30 difference
would make more sense if both kits had the same mufflers, but again,
according to their website, they don't have the same mufflers.  Am I
missing something here or have the parts included in the kits been
changed and the website (plus their .PDF catalog file) does not reflect
what is really included?

Dale

> My first thought was the different mufflers made the difference in
> price.  Not so.  The 52533 mufflers in the less expensive kit ($299)
are
> almost $30 more EACH (Summit price $109 for the muffler) than the
52558
> mufflers in the more expensive ($329) kit (Summit price of $80 for the
> muffler).  For $299 you get mufflers costing $218 and for $329 you get
> mufflers costing $160.  Strange (???).





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-chevelle-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Nasta
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount
>
> Very interesting. One thing I do know is that the El Camino / Wagon
frame
> has a 4" longer wheelbase. So, the 17119 would be too short for an El
> Camino, and the part that is meant to go over the rear axle wouldn't
> clear.
> The 17120 kit can be made to fit the 2dr Chevelle / Malibu by cutting
4"
> off
> of the H-pipe.
>
> The H-pipes are different because they are different lengths. The
> tailpipes
> are different because one is made to exit the side and the other the
rear.
> The 11720 tailpipes also come with stainless steel tips already welded
on.
> Therefore the only thing that the 11719 and 11720 have in common is
the 50
> series mufflers.
>
> John Nasta
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>


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[Chevelle-List] Taller spindle conversion

[Clint Hooper]

Has anyone done this conversion on their car and do 
you really feel it made a substantial improvement? There seems to be two schools 
of thought on this subject on Team Chevelle. I hate to spend the big bucks if it 
is a small change.
Clint HooperLT5 Registry DirectorWichita Falls,Tx(940) 
855-6636'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/

[Chevelle-List] '71 and '72 Chevelle Models at Costco... Amazing or what!

[Raj R.]

Hey folks, I dropped by my local Costco (Orange County, So. Cal.) and lo and
behold I spy some Maisto car models... Aww, what the heck.. I'll
investigate.. I bet they don't hav... Is that a '71 triple-black stripe
delete SS454!? A 71 Medium Blue with white stripe convertible? A Red '72
'vertible? Yikes! I snatched up the '71 Hardtop and 'vert... Someone else
grabbed the '72 before I had a chance to even look at it.. But, best part
is-- $9.99... 1:18 scale..

...I've paid much more than that for much less.. I'll say that much :) They
aren't 100% correct (what $10 model is?) but they're close enough for me :)

Raj
71 Chevelle SS (no one makes Antinque Green Metallic with white stripes
models...)
67 Barracuda Coupe (no one makes 2nd Generation Barracuda models and if they
did it'd be a fastback anyway... hmph!! hehe)

PS: Is there a market for the American Muscle scale cars? I have a 70 SS454
El Camino in silver and an "American Muscle Sreet Mchines" 70 Chevelle SS
pro-street looking car that I won't need anymore since I finally have a '71
model.. hehehe.. I should check on ebay, huh?


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RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount

[Dale McIntosh]

The wheelbase (for 1967's anyway) is 115" for all models.  I think it's
the 68 and up that the wagon/Elky is 4" longer (116" vs. 112") so for a
pre-68 Elky or wagon, would you need the longer 17120 kit?  Since the
kits are really ~universal~ GM A-body from 64-72, it would behoove the
buyer to be aware of the wheel base of their car  before ordering to
ensure they get a kit that will fit.

The mufflers are not even the same - at least according to the
FlowMaster website.  The muffler numbers were taken straight off their
website.  I went to What's New and did a search on the two kits.  The
17119 kit shows all the parts at
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/web10/openrd/showthread.php?s=3a1868ed
a89763744ed542d02d49ba76&threadid=319&highlight=17119 

The 17120 kit shows all its parts at
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/web10/openrd/showthread.php?s=3a1868ed
a89763744ed542d02d49ba76&threadid=318&highlight=17120 clearly showing
different mufflers.

Let's see...the $30 less expensive kit ($299 vs. $329) has $60 more in
muffler costs ($109x2=$218 vs. $80x2=$160) so the longer (albeit
different) pipes and the stainless steel tips (which may be correct for
68 and up ?) cars costs $88 more in the long run?  The $30 difference
would make more sense if both kits had the same mufflers, but again,
according to their website, they don't have the same mufflers.  Am I
missing something here or have the parts included in the kits been
changed and the website (plus their .PDF catalog file) does not reflect
what is really included?

Dale

> My first thought was the different mufflers made the difference in
> price.  Not so.  The 52533 mufflers in the less expensive kit ($299)
are
> almost $30 more EACH (Summit price $109 for the muffler) than the
52558
> mufflers in the more expensive ($329) kit (Summit price of $80 for the
> muffler).  For $299 you get mufflers costing $218 and for $329 you get
> mufflers costing $160.  Strange (???).





> -Original Message-
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Nasta
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 6:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> Very interesting. One thing I do know is that the El Camino / Wagon
frame
> has a 4" longer wheelbase. So, the 17119 would be too short for an El
> Camino, and the part that is meant to go over the rear axle wouldn't
> clear.
> The 17120 kit can be made to fit the 2dr Chevelle / Malibu by cutting
4"
> off
> of the H-pipe.
> 
> The H-pipes are different because they are different lengths. The
> tailpipes
> are different because one is made to exit the side and the other the
rear.
> The 11720 tailpipes also come with stainless steel tips already welded
on.
> Therefore the only thing that the 11719 and 11720 have in common is
the 50
> series mufflers.
> 
> John Nasta
> 
> 
> 
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[Chevelle-List] 64 Chevelle radio

[gm2]

Anyone have a working radio for a 64 
Chevelle?  I'd like to get rid of the crap radio that was installed in the 
car by a previous owner.  Let me know what you want for 
it.
 
Thanks,
 
Gary

RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount

[John Nasta]

Very interesting. One thing I do know is that the El Camino / Wagon frame
has a 4" longer wheelbase. So, the 17119 would be too short for an El
Camino, and the part that is meant to go over the rear axle wouldn't clear.
The 17120 kit can be made to fit the 2dr Chevelle / Malibu by cutting 4" off
of the H-pipe.

The H-pipes are different because they are different lengths. The tailpipes
are different because one is made to exit the side and the other the rear.
The 11720 tailpipes also come with stainless steel tips already welded on.
Therefore the only thing that the 11719 and 11720 have in common is the 50
series mufflers.

John Nasta



-Original Message-

John/All,

I was looking at the Flowmaster site and found a couple of interesting
things.  I would have thought that the kits from the engine back to the
over-the-axle pipe would be the same and only the extensions (tail
pipes) would be different.  I put the 17119 kit on my 67 SS and had
pipes to either come out behind the rear tire (like factory) or extend
to the rear bumper.

I wondered why the 17119 kit was so much less expensive than the 17120
(Elky/Wagon) kit.  It seems that ~almost none~ of the pipes or mufflers
are the same - not even the pipes going back to the rear axle.  The
17119 kit comes with 30 series mufflers (52533) while the 17120 kit
comes with 50 series mufflers (52558).  The exhaust extension pipes,
H-pipe, over-the-axle, everything is different.  Is there that much
difference between coupe/convertible and Elky/wagon frames that the
front half of the exhaust is so different?  Guess I just never noticed
before.

My first thought was the different mufflers made the difference in
price.  Not so.  The 52533 mufflers in the less expensive kit ($299) are
almost $30 more EACH (Summit price $109 for the muffler) than the 52558
mufflers in the more expensive ($329) kit (Summit price of $80 for the
muffler).  For $299 you get mufflers costing $218 and for $329 you get
mufflers costing $160.  Strange (???).

Dale McIntosh



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RE: [Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount

[Dale McIntosh]

John/All,

I was looking at the Flowmaster site and found a couple of interesting
things.  I would have thought that the kits from the engine back to the
over-the-axle pipe would be the same and only the extensions (tail
pipes) would be different.  I put the 17119 kit on my 67 SS and had
pipes to either come out behind the rear tire (like factory) or extend
to the rear bumper.

I wondered why the 17119 kit was so much less expensive than the 17120
(Elky/Wagon) kit.  It seems that ~almost none~ of the pipes or mufflers
are the same - not even the pipes going back to the rear axle.  The
17119 kit comes with 30 series mufflers (52533) while the 17120 kit
comes with 50 series mufflers (52558).  The exhaust extension pipes,
H-pipe, over-the-axle, everything is different.  Is there that much
difference between coupe/convertible and Elky/wagon frames that the
front half of the exhaust is so different?  Guess I just never noticed
before.

My first thought was the different mufflers made the difference in
price.  Not so.  The 52533 mufflers in the less expensive kit ($299) are
almost $30 more EACH (Summit price $109 for the muffler) than the 52558
mufflers in the more expensive ($329) kit (Summit price of $80 for the
muffler).  For $299 you get mufflers costing $218 and for $329 you get
mufflers costing $160.  Strange (???).

Dale McIntosh



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[Chevelle-List] old discs from a 69?

[HarKemAsso]

a week or so back someone mentioned they were taking the original discs/backing 
plates/ spindles off their car and wanted to know if anyone wanted them, i asked how 
much but never got a reply??
e-mail me off list if you will & let me know.
thanks!
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Blower switch

[Brian Zack]

I thought I checked their site. Maybe I just missed it. Thanks I'll try them
again.

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
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From: Galen and Melissa Love [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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I bought one from Year One a little while back for my '71.  Have you checked
with them?

Galen

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> Thanks. I ordered a catalog and I'll be able to check out their parts.
> Anyone else have any sources just to compare?
>
>  Brian Zack
>  '70 Chevelle Malibu
>  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
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> From: gnomezone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> The best parts house is Car Shop in SoCal.
> www.truckandcarshop.com
> Blower switch is $13
> And get the free catalog.
>
> Doug
> 1972 SS EC
>
> --- Brian Zack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've gone looking for the blower fan speed switch
> > online and I cant seem to
> > find one in the online catalogs. Anyone know who
> > sells them for my '70
> > Chevelle Malibu w/ AC?
> >
> > Brian Zack
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Blower switch

[Galen and Melissa Love]

I bought one from Year One a little while back for my '71.  Have you checked
with them?

Galen

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> Thanks. I ordered a catalog and I'll be able to check out their parts.
> Anyone else have any sources just to compare?
>
>  Brian Zack
>  '70 Chevelle Malibu
>  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnomezone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Blower switch
>
>
> The best parts house is Car Shop in SoCal.
> www.truckandcarshop.com
> Blower switch is $13
> And get the free catalog.
>
> Doug
> 1972 SS EC
>
> --- Brian Zack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've gone looking for the blower fan speed switch
> > online and I cant seem to
> > find one in the online catalogs. Anyone know who
> > sells them for my '70
> > Chevelle Malibu w/ AC?
> >
> > Brian Zack
> > '70 Chevelle Malibu
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RE: [Chevelle-List] BB heads needed

[Chevelle 69]

Bob,
Where do you live? I can imagine shipping on them would be heck!  I
more than likely am going to use the heads my friend gave me off a 454
in the mid 70's.

The other ones I was thinking about getting rid of I took off the June
of 71 396/402 truck (low deck-same as car) engine. They have a valve
stuck open on them, but I am guessing that won't hurt them permanently?

 Steve in Ohio.

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Well I guess I need some  bigger chambered heads on the  396 chevelle to
get rid
of the ping!   so i am looking for a set of 118 cc chamber heads  large
oval
port  would do the trick .  any one have a set laying out behind the
garage  I know i got tons of stuff behind mine  but its always the stuff
ya don't need!  as always any help or ideas would be appreciated

Bob

67 ss396


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[Chevelle-List] RE: flowmaster discount

[John Nasta]

Sorry guys, I just put an order through and my little trick of creating one
login that everybody can use to get the discount is not working, so I had to
set it back to normal, and I'll have to just adjust the price before
processing any orders for the flowmasters that come through the web site.

John Nasta



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[Chevelle-List] Re:Blower Toggle Switch ??

[Misterbowtie66]

Hello..

have a question on my heater blower assembly to the left of it is a toggle switch with a wire come from it buy not attached to anything. Does anyone know what this toggle switch is for ?? Its not an aftermarket application is part of the blower assembly .

Thanks...John 
Phila Pa 
66 Chevelle Malibu

Re: [Chevelle-List] Difference b/t 64-67 & 68-72

[Michael Ishee]

Thanks thats just what i needed to know
Michael


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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:17:08 -0600

The arm mounting point are the same. The a-arms on these cars are
interchangeable but the frames are longer in the early models 68-72 two
door coupe 112" wheel base. early models 115" wheel base. Actually the
mount points for the rear axles are the same the axle is just shorter on
the early models.

Trooper

Michael Ishee wrote:
>
> Does any know what all dimensions if any are different between these two
> series of frames and suspension mounting points.  I know that they have
> different frames but is the only difference where the 64-67 mounts to 
the
> rear axle because of the shorter rear axle.  Is there any different in 
the
> a-arm mounting points.  Thanks for the help.
> Michael
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Difference b/t 64-67 & 68-72

[Trooper]

The arm mounting point are the same. The a-arms on these cars are
interchangeable but the frames are longer in the early models 68-72 two
door coupe 112" wheel base. early models 115" wheel base. Actually the
mount points for the rear axles are the same the axle is just shorter on
the early models.

Trooper

Michael Ishee wrote:
> 
> Does any know what all dimensions if any are different between these two
> series of frames and suspension mounting points.  I know that they have
> different frames but is the only difference where the 64-67 mounts to the
> rear axle because of the shorter rear axle.  Is there any different in the
> a-arm mounting points.  Thanks for the help.
> Michael
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles

[HarKemAsso]

In a message dated 11/20/2002 2:08:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> No, but every time he coughed, his horn would go off.
the one on the car or

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles

[HarKemAsso]

In a message dated 11/20/2002 2:08:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> No, but every time he coughed, his horn would go off.
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Welding & Sealing

[HarKemAsso]

I used to work at a GM dealer with a body shop, thats all they used for quarters and 
door skins, glue only, no welding- except where the quarter joined the roof, or door 
skin joined to the door frame.

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles

[Brian Zack]

Cool. I'll have to look into that to see if those could possibly work.

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
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Brian Zack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone ever retrofitted the type of retractable belts that are mounted
> in the roof area? I thought I had seen some car that has the belts retract
> int the headliner area that maybe we could mount where our older
> non-adjustable shoulder belts do. Has anyone else seen these or am I  just
> dreaming?

I used to have a '75 Nova that had the shoulder belt retractors mounted
on the roof.

~Steve


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RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles

[Steve Allen]

Brian Zack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone ever retrofitted the type of retractable belts that are mounted
> in the roof area? I thought I had seen some car that has the belts retract
> int the headliner area that maybe we could mount where our older
> non-adjustable shoulder belts do. Has anyone else seen these or am I  just
> dreaming?

I used to have a '75 Nova that had the shoulder belt retractors mounted
on the roof.

~Steve


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Re: [Chevelle-List] Welding & Sealing

[HarKemAsso]

In a message dated 11/19/2002 10:17:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> stuff to put in there before you weld
Steve;
i believe it is called "weld through coating" possibly by 3m
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Welding & Sealing

[HarKemAsso]

In a message dated 11/19/2002 10:17:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> stuff to put in there before you weld
Steve;
i believe it is called "weld through coating" possibly by 3m
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles

[John Nasta]

No, but every time he coughed, his horn would go off.

John Nasta



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> steering wheel of a mid-sixties full-sized Chevy wound up in
> the rear seat after a substantial frontal impact, much to
> the detriment of
> the driver.
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Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles

[HarKemAsso]

In a message dated 11/19/2002 9:20:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

> steering wheel of a mid-sixties full-sized Chevy wound up in
> the rear seat after a substantial frontal impact, much to 
> the detriment of
> the driver.
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[Chevelle-List] shift indicator question

[HarKemAsso]

HEY! on my 68 chevelle, it used to have a automatic trans in it at one point in its 
life. the dash has the indicator (PRND21) in the middle above the column, this is 
surrounded in chrome, i am wondering what this part of the dash should look like for a 
4-speed, is it just blacked out? if so, is it still surrounded in chrome, or are the 
dashes completely different thanks for any help!
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles

[Brian Zack]

Has anyone ever retrofitted the type of retractable belts that are mounted
in the roof area? I thought I had seen some car that has the belts retract
int the headliner area that maybe we could mount where our older
non-adjustable shoulder belts do. Has anyone else seen these or am I  just
dreaming?

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
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From: Brad Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:15 AM
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> From: Dan McIntosh
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles
> 
> 
> Speaking of shoulder belts, has anyone ever added these to an old
Chevy? The
> lapbelts just don't make me feel to safe, and the idea of a racing
style 5
> point harness doesn't sit to well with me either. My wife's
convertible
> Sebring has belts that seem to attach to the rear seat bolt, and come
up
> over your shoulder. Wonder if a system like that could be implemented?
> Take it easy

I have seen many old cars where the owners have used the rear seat belt
mount for a harness mount.  You just need a long "Y" harness.  You have
to make sure that the belts are at a reasonable angle, and will not fall
off your shoulders or pull you down incorrectly.  Ideally, they should
be pulling you back and down into the seat, but our older cars with
short seats can cause problems.  If you have a higher back seat, then it
might work just fine.

That said, the C2 corvettes had optional shoulder belts in the 60's, and
the factory mounting point is way back where the frame kicks up by the
rear wheel.

I'm thinking about the long "Y" harness for my Chevelle if I don’t add a
cage, and at some point in the future I'd like to do something similar
to the Corvette, if I can fit decent seats.  I'd really like a roll bar
in the Corvette, but can't easily fit one to work with the convertible
top...

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes

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> From: "John Nasta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles
> 
> 
> > I have collapsible (actually called impact absorbing) 
> steering wheels in
> > both of my 1968 Oldsmobiles (both are convertibles). The 
> only down side is
> > that because there are no shoulder belts, drivers tend to 
> go through the
> > windshield in a collision.
> >
> > John Nasta
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >
> > Tim,
> >  You could be our Team Chevelle Safety rep :)
> >
> > Teach me about collapsible steering columns please. I am ignorant in
> > this area.
> >
> > What do you plan on doing to increase safety on your 66 Elkie?
> >
> > Steve



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[Brad Waller]

> From: Dan McIntosh
> Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles
> 
> 
> Speaking of shoulder belts, has anyone ever added these to an old
Chevy? The
> lapbelts just don't make me feel to safe, and the idea of a racing
style 5
> point harness doesn't sit to well with me either. My wife's
convertible
> Sebring has belts that seem to attach to the rear seat bolt, and come
up
> over your shoulder. Wonder if a system like that could be implemented?
> Take it easy

I have seen many old cars where the owners have used the rear seat belt
mount for a harness mount.  You just need a long "Y" harness.  You have
to make sure that the belts are at a reasonable angle, and will not fall
off your shoulders or pull you down incorrectly.  Ideally, they should
be pulling you back and down into the seat, but our older cars with
short seats can cause problems.  If you have a higher back seat, then it
might work just fine.

That said, the C2 corvettes had optional shoulder belts in the 60's, and
the factory mounting point is way back where the frame kicks up by the
rear wheel.

I'm thinking about the long "Y" harness for my Chevelle if I don’t add a
cage, and at some point in the future I'd like to do something similar
to the Corvette, if I can fit decent seats.  I'd really like a roll bar
in the Corvette, but can't easily fit one to work with the convertible
top...

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes

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> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles
> 
> 
> > I have collapsible (actually called impact absorbing) 
> steering wheels in
> > both of my 1968 Oldsmobiles (both are convertibles). The 
> only down side is
> > that because there are no shoulder belts, drivers tend to 
> go through the
> > windshield in a collision.
> >
> > John Nasta
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >
> > Tim,
> >  You could be our Team Chevelle Safety rep :)
> >
> > Teach me about collapsible steering columns please. I am ignorant in
> > this area.
> >
> > What do you plan on doing to increase safety on your 66 Elkie?
> >
> > Steve



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[Chevelle-List] RE: flowmaster discount

[John Nasta]

Oops, one last thing. You will of course have to substitute in you own
billing/shipping info at the checkout screen.

Amex, VISA, MC, Discover, and PayPal accepted through the web site.

Thanks,
John Nasta



-Original Message-

OK, last post on this subject.

Due to modern technology, you can now visit our home page, click the Account
link, log in as flowmaster with the password flowmaster, then go to the
Search page and enter the word flowmaster. You will automatically get the
15% discount at checkout.

Thanks,
John Nasta
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[Chevelle-List] flowmaster discount

[John Nasta]

OK, last post on this subject.

Due to modern technology, you can now visit our home page, click the Account
link, log in as flowmaster with the password flowmaster, then go to the
Search page and enter the word flowmaster. You will automatically get the
15% discount at checkout.

Thanks,
John Nasta
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Re: [Chevelle-List] where i work was: Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles

[Richard Milkiewicz]

It's a G.M. Powertrain plant. They pour and make the Vortec I4 and I5 engine
parts. These are aluminum. They also make the I6 cast iron.
Rich
"66 Malibu
ACES # 5066
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 6:02 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] where i work was: Anti-lock brakes & air bags
in Chevelles


> Not really.  I work for a scrap recycler (Metal Management Inc.) doing
> network administration.  We do a lot of business with the Big 3, (we have
a
> site right next to GM's foundry in Defiance, OH) but I wouldn't call it
the
> car business.  BTW-- does anyone know what GM makes at that facility?
ie--
> are they casting Vortec heads or anything useful like that?
>
> -Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Craig A. Ellis
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles
>
>
> Hey Dave, do you still work in the car business???
>
> Craig
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Studly
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 5:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles
>
>
> Umm.. the lack of anti-lock brakes and airbags (and the required
> electronics
> and added complexity) are part of the appeal of my Chevelle.  Why would
> I
> want to retro-fit that??
>
> Having worked for TRW (a major manufacturer of airbags for the OEM), I
> can
> say that these are highly-engineered systems designed and made for
> specific
> vehicles.  You are going to face an uphill battle ALL the way in trying
> to
> retrofit.  Even if you could find all the parts and mock them up in a
> way
> that it LOOKS like it would work, how would you test it?  When an airbag
> goes off, make no mistake -- it's an explosion happening right in front
> of
> your face.  This is not a do-it-yourself project, IMO.
>
> I don't want to be a nay-sayer and say that it CAN'T be done, but just
> because something can be done, doesn't mean it should.  A fraction of
> the
> money could be spent on a 5 point harness (or two, to include the
> passenger
> seat).
>
> Anti-lock brakes might be easier to accomplish.  I remember seeing an ad
> in
> the back of Hot Rod or Craft for years in the 90s that touted Anti-lock
> brake upgrades for older cars.  I can't remember the name of the
> company,
> though.  If you can find some of those issues, flip through the ads
> towards
> the back.  They used to advertise a lot -- I believe the ad had a big
> outline or silhouette of a master cylinder.
>
> I've been on the list pretty much since the beginning, back in '96 and I
> think you're the first person to ask about air bags and anti-lock
> brakes, so
> I don't think too many people are doing this stuff.  If you do proceed,
> make
> sure to send some posts describing how you did it.  I'm sure back in the
> mid-80s, people might thought you'd be crazy to swap an EFI engine into
> a
> Chevelle, too.  :-)
>
> -Dave
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chevelle 69
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Chevelle-List] Anti-lock brakes & air bags in Chevelles
>
>
>
> Has anyone found a web site when I can research how to get anti-lock
> brakes and air bags to work in a Chevelle that don't have the full blown
> computer? I might be able to figure out a way to do it if I can get my
> hands on some info to start with.
>
> Anyone else done this already and got them to work?
>
>  Steve
>
>
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Blower switch

[Brian Zack]

Yes, The blower speed switch in the dash.

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
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-Original Message-
From: John Nasta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Blower switch


Are you looking for the switch that mounts in the dash?

John Nasta



-Original Message-


Thanks. I ordered a catalog and I'll be able to check out their parts.
Anyone else have any sources just to compare?

 Brian Zack
 '70 Chevelle Malibu
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Blower switch

[John Nasta]

Are you looking for the switch that mounts in the dash?

John Nasta



-Original Message-


Thanks. I ordered a catalog and I'll be able to check out their parts.
Anyone else have any sources just to compare?

 Brian Zack
 '70 Chevelle Malibu
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RE: [Chevelle-List] Blower switch

[Brian Zack]

Thanks. I ordered a catalog and I'll be able to check out their parts.
Anyone else have any sources just to compare?

 Brian Zack
 '70 Chevelle Malibu
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: gnomezone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 9:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Blower switch


The best parts house is Car Shop in SoCal.
www.truckandcarshop.com
Blower switch is $13 
And get the free catalog.

Doug
1972 SS EC

--- Brian Zack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've gone looking for the blower fan speed switch
> online and I cant seem to
> find one in the online catalogs. Anyone know who
> sells them for my '70
> Chevelle Malibu w/ AC?
> 
> Brian Zack
> '70 Chevelle Malibu
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Chevelle-List] Difference b/t 64-67 & 68-72

[Michael Ishee]

Does any know what all dimensions if any are different between these two 
series of frames and suspension mounting points.  I know that they have 
different frames but is the only difference where the 64-67 mounts to the 
rear axle because of the shorter rear axle.  Is there any different in the 
a-arm mounting points.  Thanks for the help.
Michael

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RE: [Chevelle-List] Child car seats / Car Seat Found - 5 point harness upto 80 lbs

[Krister Meister]

Good news for us driving young kids around in our Chevelle's

I found a 5 - point harness car seat called Husky made by Britax that is
forward facing for kids 22 lbs to 80 lbs and to a max height of 53".  I
called Britax's customer service and they verified that this seat only uses
a lap belt for the full duration of its use up to 80 lbs or 53".  If used
in a shoulder / lap belt application - the shoulder belt and lap belt are
held together with a clip and passed through the seat as a lap belt.  These
seats are relatively new to the market and in checking with my local Zany
Brainy and Babies R Us they have not received any yet.  However; they can
be ordered online as well.


http://www.britaxusa.com/products.cfm?id=DC0D7127-A6B2-42EB-84321E6A28508BAD



This gets me out of the woods for probably four more years, but reto-
fitting to rear shoulder belts is probably eminent


Thanks Brian for the link original amazon.com which directed me the Britax
brand

Krister Meister
Bartlett, IL
'66 SS #'s matching




We had to address this when we had an '87 Olds 98 and we went through the
Olds dealer and get some universal ones ordered and installed there. They
mounted through the rear deck (behind the seat). And we used a child
booster
car seat in my truck belted in the center seat. It was legal where I live
to
use that. Here is one that may work.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B5LJE7/pictures/14/14/002-

8390481-5495218?v=glance&s=baby&vi=pictures#more-pictures

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
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-Original Message-
From: Krister Meister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:32 AM
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Subject: [Chevelle-List] Child car seats



Wondering how those with small kids have addressed this issue.  I have a
'66 SS with rear seat lap belts (factory) and I have 4.5 year old twins,
about 33 - 35 lbs,  that are growing out of their 5 point harness car seats
which use only the vehicles lap belt.  The seat type they need to move up
into all use a shoulder / lap belt design.

Has anyone found a lap belt design child's (40lb - 100lb) car seat or
retrofitted a '66 to rear seat with shoulder / lap belts?

My kids will be bummed if they can't cruise around and I just don't trust a
lap belt if there is something better available for their safety.

Thanks

Krister Meister
Bartlett, IL
'66 SS #'s matching


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[Chevelle-List] BB heads needed

[Robert Coyle]

Well I guess I need some  bigger chambered heads on the  396 chevelle to get rid
of the ping!   so i am looking for a set of 118 cc chamber heads  large oval
port  would do the trick .  any one have a set laying out behind the garage  I
know i got tons of stuff behind mine  but its always the stuff ya don't need!  as
always any help or ideas would be appreciated

Bob

67 ss396


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[Chevelle-List] Shoulder belts

[Craig A. Ellis]

 

I've been reading the posts on shoulder belts with interest. I've got
the roof belts in my '70 but, somewhere along the line during the resto,
the latch belt they connect to disappeared. For that matter, the rest of
my belts look a bit tacky and I've been considering replacing them all.
Does anyone make a high quality kit that contains all these belts? Also,
does my '70 have a collaspible steering wheel? Is it the lattice type or
slip column type?

Thanks,

Craig

 

Craig A. Ellis, CPA
810-987-0433
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www.neagroup.com  

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Re: [Chevelle-List] Welding & Sealing

[Bob]

Title: Message



Steve,
Spray some weld thru primer on the joints before 
welding. This product is mostly zinc, and will flow when welding and solidify 
after, preventing rust. You can get the primer from welding supply and other 
sources.
Bob

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chevelle 
  69 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:17 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-List] Welding & 
  Sealing
  
  Gents,
     I am about 
  to start welding in floor pans. I want to use a lap joint, but was warned that 
  you can get rust developing where the metal overlaps. That's a good 
  point.
   
  Another guy recommended some stuff to put in there before you weld but 
  can't give me the details on what it is and where to find it. I know to watch 
  out for fumes when weldingso have to be careful.
   
  What 
  have others done to prevent rust there? Does anyone know of a product to use 
  there?
   
    
  Steve