[Cooker] IDE autotune
I saw a lilo.config last week with a line with the above command in there. The rc1 install didn't give me the option for it. Can someone give me the right way to put it into my lilo so my hds ( age<6mos, WD and IBM) can experience optimalization? -- pax -m-
Re: [Cooker] ATT wireless broadband and Linux?? Help!!
On Friday 13 April 2001 08:31 pm, you wrote: > Do you use? I use ATT Broadband (curse them) but not wireless. > If yes, what it like? > > On 13 Apr 2001 11:10:50 -0700, michael wrote: > > Has anyone been abloe to connect to the internet thru ATT broadband > > wireless > > using Linux??? > > -m- I am scheduled for a hookup on the 17th. My local isp has a 10Gb cap on datatransfers, and I am told they don't (currently, I'm at 9.2G for this month). Also I hate monopolies, and my isp has alaska sewn up for broadband access. The reason I am asking is they say no way can one use linux with their system. Can I install it on one box and use it as a gateway? Anyone have any ideas as to how to get around this absolute anti-Linux stance of theirs? -- pax -m-
[Cooker] RC1 feedback
Grammar and spelling!!! In MandrakeExpert slide, why not say,"As a newbie...as an expert..."( I just caught a sig11 and was forced to startx in the middle of writing this!). Use italics for emphasis! Nice job on the whole, and the graphical boot process is smooth and good looking! -- pax -m-
Re: [Cooker] MD5 sums and RC1
On Friday 13 April 2001 10:06 pm, you wrote: > On Friday 13 April 2001 10:03 am, michael wrote: > > On Friday 13 April 2001 03:40 am, you wrote: > > > michael wrote: > > > > How do I use md5 sum check? > > > > > > Just run: > > > > > > md5sum > > > > Thank-you; the rc1.iso file on my hd is good. Now how do I go about > > checking the cd? when I go into the mount directory it says no such file? > > From a terminal : dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum > replace /dev/cdrom with the device your cd is in if it's not /dev/cdrom. > It'll take a few minutes to read the cd and do the sum so be patient. The > sum should be the same as the iso image sum. Thanks for the clear answer! I actually rendered it moot by burning on to gold cd's evidently the silver ones just aren't iso-metric ;-) However, I am checking just for thoroughness' sake! -- pax -m-
[Cooker] Gnome-core and GFCC
Whenever I start mirroring my closest cooker mirror, Gnome-core and GFCC packages have updated times and are downloaded (but not installable). "Version" has updated time everytime, too. -- Digital Wokan, Tribal Mage of the Electronics Age Guerilla Linux Warrior
Re: [Cooker] Via chipset bug
"And at install time between a CD and a hdd both running DMA" I have the Via chipset with the above situation: after crashing several times while I tried the few tricks I know, the RC1 install suddenly went through fine, have no clue why ! copying 670Mb of packages took all of a blazing 3-4 minutes ! nice going, Mandrake crew, nice :-) btw: Win2K also has an impossibly hard time with this mobo until I abandoned it for old warhorse NT4SP6 *groan* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Friday 13 April 2001 17:45, you wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 04:53, you wrote: > > > JoAnne wrote: > > > > The Register: Data-corruption bug hits VIA chipsets(Apr 13, 2001, 15:10 > > > > UTC) (1719 reads) (4 talkbacks) (Posted by kreichard) > > > > Dennis E. Powell writes to tell us about the Register's coverage: "The > > > > kernel crowd have been trying for months to track this thing down; > > > > turns out now that it's not their fault! > > > > > > *OUCH*!!! My AOpen mobo has the VIA chipset... (and it's Friday > > > the thirteenth!). > > > Can't afford a new mobo, so does this mean that all the kinky goings on > > > with my system > > > _wasn't_ due to beta code, the phase of the moon, or my cat biting me? > > > <*sheesh*!!> > > > > > > ... so what do we do now? ... switch to Windows > > > Me??? [NOT!!!] > > > > > > Elton Woo ;-) > > > > It only happens with big files between two ide hard drives at maximum > > throughput and blah blah blah read the report > > > And at install time between a CD and a hdd both running DMA > > And probably not testably reproducible at other times as well... > > It is a _HARDWARE_RACE_CONDITION_ and those tend to be as predictable as the > outcome of a rain dance. Just lucky someone found a reproducible set of > circumstances so some confessions could be forthcoming and a fix could be > encouraged, else the poor overworked kernel hackers in all distros would > still be pulling out their hair, or flattening the tops of their heads by > bashing them against the nearest convenient wall. > > Civileme > > __ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
Re: [Cooker] MD5 sums and RC1
On Friday 13 April 2001 10:03 am, michael wrote: > On Friday 13 April 2001 03:40 am, you wrote: > > michael wrote: > > > How do I use md5 sum check? > > > > Just run: > > > > md5sum > > Thank-you; the rc1.iso file on my hd is good. Now how do I go about > checking the cd? when I go into the mount directory it says no such file? >From a terminal : dd if=/dev/cdrom | md5sum replace /dev/cdrom with the device your cd is in if it's not /dev/cdrom. It'll take a few minutes to read the cd and do the sum so be patient. The sum should be the same as the iso image sum. -- "It said uses Windows 95 or better, so I loaded Linux!" "In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?" Kelley Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Cooker] rpmdrake minor glitch
Minor issues with rpmdrake still: If an install is aborted or fails (conflict) the progress screen still says congratulations. If you then quit from it, the selected packages no longer appear within rpmdrake even though they haven't been installed. Rpmdrake needs to be restarted for these packages to reappear. Urpmi still bombs out if it encounters one bad package, and the rest of the directory is ignored. Otherwise it is real cool now! Keep up the good work. Wish list for 8.1 - the ability to find files in rpms as per previous versions of rpmdrake, and the ability to install one package without having to add the whole directory ie. open one file like kpackage does and then install all dependent RPMS. Con.
Re: [Cooker] Via chipset bug
On Friday 13 April 2001 17:45, you wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 04:53, you wrote: > > JoAnne wrote: > > > The Register: Data-corruption bug hits VIA chipsets(Apr 13, 2001, 15:10 > > > UTC) (1719 reads) (4 talkbacks) (Posted by kreichard) > > > Dennis E. Powell writes to tell us about the Register's coverage: "The > > > kernel crowd have been trying for months to track this thing down; > > > turns out now that it's not their fault! > > > > *OUCH*!!! My AOpen mobo has the VIA chipset... (and it's Friday > > the thirteenth!). > > Can't afford a new mobo, so does this mean that all the kinky goings on > > with my system > > _wasn't_ due to beta code, the phase of the moon, or my cat biting me? > > <*sheesh*!!> > > > > ... so what do we do now? ... switch to Windows > > Me??? [NOT!!!] > > > > Elton Woo ;-) > > It only happens with big files between two ide hard drives at maximum > throughput and blah blah blah read the report And at install time between a CD and a hdd both running DMA And probably not testably reproducible at other times as well... It is a _HARDWARE_RACE_CONDITION_ and those tend to be as predictable as the outcome of a rain dance. Just lucky someone found a reproducible set of circumstances so some confessions could be forthcoming and a fix could be encouraged, else the poor overworked kernel hackers in all distros would still be pulling out their hair, or flattening the tops of their heads by bashing them against the nearest convenient wall. Civileme
Re: [Cooker] Groups/users in setup
On 13 Apr 2001, Blue Lizard wrote: > > > > And all these users appear in kdm login user selection window because it > > does not know anything abut them :-( > > > > -andrej > > > > > > Use the kdm configurator. In kde it is referred to as login manager. > It will let you define who is shown (i.e. all users, just these, except > these, etc.). > > hank you, I know. I just wanted to remind to those who maintain KDE RPMs. You do not expect every user with Mdk8 manually do it, do not you? -andrej
Re: [Cooker] OpenUniverse bombs - needs OpenGL GLX
Try opening a console and typing in xdpyinfo and see if GLX is listed for your card. OpenUniverse works fine on my machine (TNT2, NVIDIA binary driver and XF4.0.3) Con. On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:58, you wrote: > Same problem and I wasn't happy either. Similar to probs. with xawtv. > Nice to know I not alone. > > On 13 Apr 2001 09:18:58 -0500, Vincent Meyer wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Tried to test OpenUniverse today. Starting it in a terminal > > results in : > > > > GLUT: Fatal Error in openuniverse: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by > > display: :0.0 > > > > What are these things, and shouldn't they be in the dependencies > > for openuniverse? > > > > Vinny
Re: [Cooker] Tonight's Clean Install Problems
Hi all, Seems the sound problem was my fault. I was always disabling harddrake and kudzu during the install when asked which services I wanted. I don't have USB or any other hardware but IDE disk and sound card so I thought that they would not be needed. When I left them enabled, sound came out.. Thanks for help to all who replied. Dave On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, you wrote: > On 13 Apr 2001 03:35:55 +0200, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > David Eastcott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > 2. Sound Card Detection > > > > > > On the weekend I was a very happy camper after a clean install, reboot etc. > > > because KDE produced the startup music for the first time ever for my SB16 ISA > > > sound card. However, tonight - no sound. > > > > > > Looking at /proc/isapnp shows the kernel correctly identified my card. > > > However, the DrakConf/Control Center->Hardware->Soundcards incorrectly shows a > > > SB32 PnP Audio Device. > > > > do you have them configured or not ? if not better to launch sndconfig > > than harddrake actually. > > I used to have to run sndconfig after install but during rc1 install it > must have done it automatically because it worked fine on first boot > with absolutely no input from me (which is always good). > > > > > -- > > MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org > > --Chmouel > >
Re: [Cooker] Another Bad RPM
I AM a lady, I am calm, but this excess verbiage keeps me from the enjoyable experience of learning Linux JoAnne On Friday 13 April 2001 19:27, you wrote: > > So to what do I owe the extreme pleasure of you popping your head out of > > your arse long enough to share your enlightening personality with me? > > > > Do us a favor and put it back. > > Ladies, ladies, c'mon calm down. > > He's got a point - it is handy to be able to compile RPMs for situations > just as these when the ready made RPMs don't work, but then so do you - > Mandrake has a reputation as an easy to use distro, and your average > newbie doesn'tt know, and in an ideal world shouldn't have to know, the > first thing about upgrading. > > But let's not turn this mailing list into a flame war huh guys?
Re: [Cooker] further comments on Traktopel (beta3)
You say you're less of a man? E. On 13 Apr 2001 14:03:25 -0400, Elton Woo wrote: > Daouda LO wrote: > > > rpm -qpi name_of_the_package.rpm gives you the packager/maintainer of the package . > > ... as they say in Provence: "merci bien"... I've just learnt > another command! > (sorry, I'm more of a "mouse" than a "man" person, but not _too afraid_ > to learn) > > salutations, > > Elton Woo ;-) > > -- > Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. > Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board.
Re: [Cooker] ATT wireless broadband
Do you use? I use ATT Broadband (curse them) but not wireless. If yes, what it like? On 13 Apr 2001 11:10:50 -0700, michael wrote: > Has anyone been abloe to connect to the internet thru ATT broadband > wireless > using Linux??? > -m- > >
Re: [Cooker] using DHCP with Gnome...
Never did that to me. On 13 Apr 2001 14:12:03 -0400, Elton Woo wrote: > .. as much as I like KDE, I would also like to use > Gnome . As I haven't used Gnome much in the past, I'm unsure if > this is a Gnome or Mandrake problem: I'm on a cable connection, so > naturally I have a dynamic IP address. After I log into the Gnome > desktop, it complains that it can't find DHCP (since it's not > in the hosts file). Is there some way to "fix" this? > > Elton Woo ;-) > > {yes, I AM a linux newbie!} > > -- > Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. > Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board.
Re: [Cooker] Traktopel installation time
Bless you and good luck on your exam(s) On 13 Apr 2001 11:42:59 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: > Millions of electrons died to bring me this message. Was it worth it, > Nguyen Hung.Takeshi? > > hi all! > > I ve chosen full installation for Traktopel3 (install all packages), it took > > about 3.5 hours ;) while when I tried to isntall Redhat FisherBeta, it took > > only about 50 mins ;). > > why? > > Does the installer tune the hard disks (hdparm)? > > Boot up into the installer, then switch to the second console. Mount a linux > partition that has hdparm if it isn't on the cd, then test your disk(s). If > they say something like 3.5 mb/s, they're not tuned. > > By doing that trick, I could cut installation time for 7.2 from over an hour > to twenty minutes. I haven't checked cooker recently, though. (exam crunch :( > > -- > Graham Percival >
[Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] mandrake_desk-8.0-6mdk
Would you mind elaborating on the print-cups.sh script? What is it? On 13 Apr 2001 20:10:42 +0200, David BAUDENS wrote: > --=-=-= > Name: mandrake_deskRelocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 8.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 6mdk Build Date: Fri Apr 13 19:47:08 2001 > Install date: (not installed) Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com > Group : System/Configuration/OtherSource RPM: (none) > Size: 1444006 License: GPL > Packager: David BAUDENS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Summary : The Desktop configuration files for Linux Mandrake > Description : > This package contains useful icons, backgrounds and others goodies for the > Mandrake desktop. > > --=-=-= > > * Thu Apr 12 2001 David BAUDENS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8.0-6mdk > > - Remove KDE stuff > - Remove patch #1 > - Add icons for Mandrake Campus and Mandrake Expert > - Add print-cups.sh script - Frederic CROZAT > > -- > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 >
Re: [Cooker] initrd for reiserfs
On 13 Apr 2001 10:06:11 -0800, michael wrote: > On Friday 13 April 2001 09:44, you wrote: > > There seems to be no initrd's for the last few kernels. What a pain it was > > when I rebooted my laptop this morning only to find I forgot to make one. > > What did you do? > I tried mkinitrd etc and it coudn't. Then when I tried to copy the result to > a text file , Mandracrash and only a hard reboot worked, but then of course I > couldn't get back in except thru an emergency disk which i can't access > internet through. > > Now i'm twiddeling. > -m- > I am forced to twiddle as well.
[Cooker] [URGENT] ftp.linux-mandrake.com is *FULL*
Hi all, The title says it all.. at least it's so for /incoming. Abel Cheung
Re: [Cooker] MD5 sums and RC1
On 13 Apr 2001 12:58:08 -0400, Elton Woo wrote: > > NB: I do it this way, because > 1) I usually run my 17" monitor at 1024 x 768 > 2) I'm not a programmer > 3) I'm *terrible* at math, and last but not least... > 4) I'm a dummy who doesn't want to use *any* Microsoft stuff: hardware or > software. > . not necessarily in that order ... > > cheers, saluti, salutations ... > > Elton Woo ;-)) All these true of me except my monitor is about 14 and a half inch viewable and 1280x1024 is what I run it at :) I will need glasses very soon.
Re: [Cooker] OpenUniverse bombs - needs OpenGL GLX
Same problem and I wasn't happy either. Similar to probs. with xawtv. Nice to know I not alone. On 13 Apr 2001 09:18:58 -0500, Vincent Meyer wrote: > Hello, > > Tried to test OpenUniverse today. Starting it in a terminal results in : > > GLUT: Fatal Error in openuniverse: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by > display: :0.0 > > What are these things, and shouldn't they be in the dependencies for > openuniverse? > > Vinny >
Re: [Cooker] Traktopel installation time
On 13 Apr 2001 14:16:05 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > "Nguyen Hung.Takeshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > hi all! > > I ve chosen full installation for Traktopel3 (install all packages), it took > > about 3.5 hours ;) while when I tried to isntall Redhat FisherBeta, it took > > only about 50 mins ;). > > why? > > which media? same size of package installed? Actually, may have something to do with the way drakx repetidly and recursively checks through the rpm database like it were a rpm -i a.rpm fir each package. Redhat/Sse may sorta do all at start and force the rest. > > > -- > Guillaume Cottenceau - http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ >
Re: [Cooker] Traktopel installation time
cool man, so there is a point to spending extra to get 100 years of storage life instead of 50. |:) On 13 Apr 2001 09:02:34 -0700, mdk mailin list (Harry) wrote: > On 4/13/01 5:16 AM, "Guillaume Cottenceau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Nguyen Hung.Takeshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> hi all! > >> I ve chosen full installation for Traktopel3 (install all packages), it took > >> about 3.5 hours ;) > > Several reasons for this? Did you do an 'upgrade' of an 'install'? > > Let's assume you did an install. I bet you made your own CD and didn't > purchase one :-) > > Some burners have a severe problem reading certain CD emulsions - I had the > same issue with 7.2 with CDs that someone from Mandrake sent me. Only > happened on one system. Took roughly 3.5 hours as well. I reburnt the CD to > another media (gold CD) and tried again, and it installed in less than 45 > minutes. > > Try an alternate media - gold being best. > > Harry > >
Re: [Cooker] RC1 feedback
I entirely agree with that last sentence. You wouldn't believe how my speaking has changed since I started getting involved in all this (non-en speakers on ml, staring at that darn thank you screen for 1.5 hours, etc.) :P Deutsche will ich sprache jetzt. Que? On 13 Apr 2001 01:43:19 -0700, mdk mailin list (Harry) wrote: > On 4/12/01 1:08 AM, "John Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> No don't! it's muich too late you should have done this with beta 1-3 they > >> were made especially for those things. Changing strings so late will break > > > > That would have been rather hard, seeing as these changes only appeared > > on RC1! > > MeThinks we're having another issue where the right hand doesn't know what > the left hand is doing - no surprise by now, or for a project of the > complexity of a distro. Fortunately, nothing major will break because of a > bad spelling, or bad capitalization - besides, by now the improper use of > English has become part of Mandrake's charm. > > Harry > >
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS broken (!!!) with beta 3 and newest cookerkernel
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Nima S. Panahi wrote: > Ok ok.. So I appoligize. As I sent this, I started reading the thread that > talks about VIA and reiserfs. I still need some explaining thought. I > don't see why the older kernels work fine and only the newer kernels have > problems? You can find what you want here: http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-04-13-007-21-PS-HW-KN Abel Cheung
[Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] kernel-2.4.3-18mdk
hehehe. I was wondering if I should ask about the aic7xxx still being 615. Thanx again, I go upgrade and if it brakes like it always does when I upgrade, I be pissed. Track you down. Make you fix :) On 13 Apr 2001 08:50:04 +0200, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > --=-=-= > Name: kernel Relocations: (not relocateable) > Version : 2.4.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft > Release : 18mdk Build Date: Fri Apr 13 02:08:37 2001 > Install date: (not installed) Build Host: no.mandrakesoft.com > Group : System/Kernel and hardwareSource RPM: (none) > Size: 27586922 License: GPL > Packager: Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Summary : The Linux kernel (the core of the Linux operating system). > Description : > The kernel package contains the Linux kernel (vmlinuz), the core of your > Linux Mandrake operating system. The kernel handles the basic functions > of the operating system: memory allocation, process allocation, device > input and output, etc. > > --=-=-= > > * Fri Apr 13 2001 Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.4.3-18mdk > > - Add ppptoe-pptoa patch for modem over ATM (matt). > - Add USB speedtouch drivers. (matt). > - Remove natsemi patch it's already fixed in an other form. > - Really apply the aic7xx upgrade. > > -- > http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3 >
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS broken (!!!) with beta 3 and newest cookerkernel
Ok ok.. So I appoligize. As I sent this, I started reading the thread that talks about VIA and reiserfs. I still need some explaining thought. I don't see why the older kernels work fine and only the newer kernels have problems? On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Nima S. Panahi wrote: > This is a strange problem that I have explored ever since beta 3 came out. > I am not sure if it exited before beta 3, since I did not test it as much > as I have now, but it could have. Anyway.. on with the problem. > > Reiserfs brakes bad with the kernel that came with beta 3 and even the > newer cooker 2.4.3-17mdk. It almost randomly seems to hang while accessing > reiserfs filesystems and refuses to do anything. The ONLY solution is the > reset button. It FOR SURE hangs when creating/accessing files larger than > 2.0G and many files under /usr/share/doc. The files like /usr/share/doc > "seem" to get away when I reformated the filesystem with the newer > Reiserfs 3.6 (it was 3.5 before). However, the only way to get hanging > problem solved (especially with large files) is to use kernels that are > lower than or equal to the one shipped with 8.0 beta 2. > Anyone have ANY idea what is going on? TIA. > > > > >
Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS broken (!!!) with beta 3 and newest cookerkernel
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Nima S. Panahi wrote: > This is a strange problem that I have explored ever since beta 3 came out. > I am not sure if it exited before beta 3, since I did not test it as much > as I have now, but it could have. Anyway.. on with the problem. > > Reiserfs brakes bad with the kernel that came with beta 3 and even the > newer cooker 2.4.3-17mdk. It almost randomly seems to hang while accessing > reiserfs filesystems and refuses to do anything. The ONLY solution is the > reset button. It FOR SURE hangs when creating/accessing files larger than > 2.0G and many files under /usr/share/doc. The files like /usr/share/doc > "seem" to get away when I reformated the filesystem with the newer > Reiserfs 3.6 (it was 3.5 before). However, the only way to get hanging > problem solved (especially with large files) is to use kernels that are > lower than or equal to the one shipped with 8.0 beta 2. > Anyone have ANY idea what is going on? TIA. You may go to www.mail-archive.com to search for older discussion on cooker list, there was a HUGE amount of complaining and discussion about this 'glitch'. Abel Cheung
Re: [Cooker] Tonight's Clean Install Problems
On 13 Apr 2001 03:35:55 +0200, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > David Eastcott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 2. Sound Card Detection > > > > On the weekend I was a very happy camper after a clean install, reboot etc. > > because KDE produced the startup music for the first time ever for my SB16 ISA > > sound card. However, tonight - no sound. > > > > Looking at /proc/isapnp shows the kernel correctly identified my card. > > However, the DrakConf/Control Center->Hardware->Soundcards incorrectly shows a > > SB32 PnP Audio Device. > > do you have them configured or not ? if not better to launch sndconfig > than harddrake actually. I used to have to run sndconfig after install but during rc1 install it must have done it automatically because it worked fine on first boot with absolutely no input from me (which is always good). > > -- > MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org > --Chmouel >
Re: [Cooker] Another Bad RPM
> > > Giles, I have to agree. The thing I find a little frustrating right now > is although it would be reletively easy to compile from source, being > this close to final, I would like to stay as stock as possible. A simple > word or two from the Mandrake team (who I know are darn busy) would go a > long way to keeping flame wars down. > > --- ;) > Spence Yeah I'm with you on the keeping stock thing too, I am trying to keep my RPM database "pure" so to speak, so I am all set to go with apt-get and Red Carpet eventually :-)
Re: [Cooker] kernel version of rc1 of lm8
Anything dangerous about using ac3 as opposed to 243-10mdk (for instance) during install but the other for run? Does the ac3 work better for hardware and install or something? I remember the horrors I used to experience with different kernels in install and boot (or in most cases no boot). Even afterwards all the way up to 243 until the -10 and on versions. -12 was a pain though. -17 is a charm :). Also a lot of misrecognition of disk geo/part etc. although those are not hardly problems with these later kernels. Wait a minute...I don't even know what ac3 is or stands for :)! On 13 Apr 2001 03:29:38 +0200, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > "Sergio P.Korlowsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Thursday 12 April 2001 08:04, you wrote: > > > Dear linux-mandrake.com: > > > > > > what version of kernel is the iso rc1 of 8.0 beta ? is it include 2.4.3? > > > > > > sincere > > > eric > > > > yes > > 2.4.3-ac3 in fact... > > -- > MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org > --Chmouel >
[Cooker] ReiserFS broken (!!!) with beta 3 and newest cooker kernel
This is a strange problem that I have explored ever since beta 3 came out. I am not sure if it exited before beta 3, since I did not test it as much as I have now, but it could have. Anyway.. on with the problem. Reiserfs brakes bad with the kernel that came with beta 3 and even the newer cooker 2.4.3-17mdk. It almost randomly seems to hang while accessing reiserfs filesystems and refuses to do anything. The ONLY solution is the reset button. It FOR SURE hangs when creating/accessing files larger than 2.0G and many files under /usr/share/doc. The files like /usr/share/doc "seem" to get away when I reformated the filesystem with the newer Reiserfs 3.6 (it was 3.5 before). However, the only way to get hanging problem solved (especially with large files) is to use kernels that are lower than or equal to the one shipped with 8.0 beta 2. Anyone have ANY idea what is going on? TIA.
Re: [Cooker] Aurora and boot probs also on shutdown
The problem is not free disk space and once remounted, aurora should have started up for real. Just a deal with the gtk+ness I suppose. Can't tell you about kudzu though, after reading all the stuff about that+aurora on the list I decided to leave out of startup. On 13 Apr 2001 03:27:01 +0200, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > SI Reasoning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Aurora also does not seem to work well with kudzu. I > > got a horrible bunch of gibberish when kudzu was > > activated > > I only noticed one setting that seemed to work and > > that was traditional + GTK Monitor, yet I got the same > > error message as mentioned below. I also got the > > message (during the first errors on bootup) that it > > could not make /tmp/tX1-lock. > > strange kudzu should not say anything when booting aurora, do you have > enought free space on your disk ? > > -- > MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org > --Chmouel >
Re: [Cooker] Another Bad RPM
> > So to what do I owe the extreme pleasure of you popping your head out of your > arse long enough to share your enlightening personality with me? > > Do us a favor and put it back. > > Ladies, ladies, c'mon calm down. He's got a point - it is handy to be able to compile RPMs for situations just as these when the ready made RPMs don't work, but then so do you - Mandrake has a reputation as an easy to use distro, and your average newbie doesn'tt know, and in an ideal world shouldn't have to know, the first thing about upgrading. But let's not turn this mailing list into a flame war huh guys?
Re: [Cooker] Another Bad RPM
Giles Hamlin wrote: > > > > > So to what do I owe the extreme pleasure of you popping your head out of your > > arse long enough to share your enlightening personality with me? > > > > Do us a favor and put it back. > > > > > Ladies, ladies, c'mon calm down. > > He's got a point - it is handy to be able to compile RPMs for situations > just as these when the ready made RPMs don't work, but then so do you - > Mandrake has a reputation as an easy to use distro, and your average > newbie doesn'tt know, and in an ideal world shouldn't have to know, the > first thing about upgrading. > > But let's not turn this mailing list into a flame war huh guys? Giles, I have to agree. The thing I find a little frustrating right now is although it would be reletively easy to compile from source, being this close to final, I would like to stay as stock as possible. A simple word or two from the Mandrake team (who I know are darn busy) would go a long way to keeping flame wars down. --- ;) Spence
Re: [Cooker] Another Bad RPM
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Jason Straight wrote: > Yeah, sure and while I'm at it I'll just write my own graphics server as a > replacement to X. Why don't we all just do that, then we won't need this > mail list to try to find problems. This is a devel list, and if you just want others to solve problem for you, you should go to newbie@ or expert@ lists. You don't belong here. > So to what do I owe the extreme pleasure of you popping your head out of your ^^^ > arse long enough to share your enlightening personality with me? And *THIS* is your personality? OK. You win. I'll shut up. > Do us a favor and put it back.
Re: [Cooker] RpmDrake and MandrakeUpdate
MandrakeUpdate is just rpmdrake in show updates mode. Rpmdrake is just an interface to urpmi. If urpmi broken, so are other 2. On 11 Apr 2001 21:03:51 -0700, Daniel McKee wrote: > Agh, everything is breaking on me :-/ > > MandrakeUpdate; > Cannot open the compssUsers.flat file > > rpmdrake; > Cannot open the compssUsers.flat file > > > Is this related to my urpmi problem also or ??? Someone please help > > > Daniel McKee > >
Re: [Cooker] Tonight's Clean Install Problems
Be patient with the icons. I have same sound setup and worked like a charm. don't know what the midi problem is or anything. On 11 Apr 2001 21:43:24 -0600, David Eastcott wrote: > Hi all, > > Just got the lastest Cooker from the mirror site and performed a clean install. > A few things were encountered: > > 1. Error generating the AutoInstall floppy using the Automatic method > > tty3 reports the the following info: > > getFile images/network.img > mounting /dev/fd0 on /floppy as type vfat > calling mount (/dev/fd0, floppy, vfat, -1058209792, check=relaxed) > warning: mount failed: Permission denied at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line > 220 > > 2. Sound Card Detection > > On the weekend I was a very happy camper after a clean install, reboot etc. > because KDE produced the startup music for the first time ever for my SB16 ISA > sound card. However, tonight - no sound. > > Looking at /proc/isapnp shows the kernel correctly identified my card. > However, the DrakConf/Control Center->Hardware->Soundcards incorrectly shows a > SB32 PnP Audio Device. > > I during the install i selected disable for alsa, harddrake and kudzu. > > I have both arts and esound installed, what changed? anyone? > > sndconfig detects the card and I can get sound but it has some kinda problem > with the midi install... > > > 3. Desktop ICON problems for both root and regular users > > There are multiple kdelnk icons for Home, Printer, Xkill; each seems to have > different properties. > > The icons for Mandrake Campus and Mandrake Expert have no graphic - just > text > > The task bar at the bottom seems to be missing some icons. maybe the > duplicates that appeared on the desk top? > > Regular users have additional duplicates; floppy, CD-ROM, doc and Documentation, > News and Mandrake News, Updates and Mandrake Updates. Also, the doc and > Documentation icons produce error message: file:/home//URLDOC does not > exist or, file:/root/URLDOC does not exist. > > 4. DrakConf/Control Center Problems > > When associated selection made: > XFDrake terminates - no core file, process (ps aux) > mousedrake terminates - no core file, process > printerdrake terminates - no core file, process > keyboarddrake terminates - no core file, process > draknet terminates - no core file, process > > virtually every thing terminates and leaves a defunct process. > > regards > Dave > > >
Re: [Cooker] RPM Rebuild required: happy-1.9-2mdk
Did just symlinking libgmp.so.2 and libgmp.so.3 work or were there undefined symbols and stuff? This is something to keep in consideration. Go find a compat-libgmp and see what it does. Then send all this crap to a mandrake maintainer of happy or libgmp and see how they propose to work it out. There could (emphasize COULD) be a legit reason for the dependency in which case it up to the libgmp person(s) to work it out or there could be no need and the happy maintainer could just take it out. When next happy come out (rhetoric)? BTW go fetch yourself rc1. On 11 Apr 2001 23:25:29 +0100, Michael Brown wrote: > gendistrib reports: > > happy-1.9-2mdk requires libgmp.so.2 > > but beta3 CD contains only libgmp.so.3 > > Can someone rebuild the happy RPM? > > Michael > > >
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Desktop
On 11 Apr 2001 07:51:25 -0800, michael wrote: > I "upgraded" my mandrake desktop yesterday, and have more icons and labels on > it now. However, Mandrake Expert and Mandrake Campus have no icons (unlike > the desktop from Mandrake Freq), Mandrake update is a question-mark and I now > have 2 XKill icons, one is the familiar red x the other the famous (but here > out of place) KDE cog. > -- > -m- > This is a very simple problem. The mdk maintainers haven't quite updated for the pkg changes and some entry (for the new, correct) were added but policy is not to remove if not directly compat because that would sorta mean every time you 'upgrade' you lose all of your personal icons. As far as the duplicate xkills, duplicate drakconfs, typos and bad paths, etc. I myself will stand back and wait patiently for someone who is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] to fix it. If not soon or at latest rc2 I will submit changes myself. One word buddy: GNOME It's the evil little dwarf that is oh so easy and functional to use. Blue
Re: [Cooker] Another Bad RPM
"R.I.P. Deaddog" wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Jason Straight wrote: > > > XFree86-server-4.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm > > > > How come all the corrupted RPM's today? > > So learn to compile from source yourself, you'll discover much more > problems then that! > So I have discovered --- Spence ;)
Re: [Cooker] Netscape-common - Probs
Con Kolivas wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:31, you wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Spencer wrote: > > > Hi list; > > > > > > All mirrors that I have checked (sunsite,sunet,etc) seem to have a > > > corrupted netscape-common -4.77-4mdk rpm. > > > > > > Can someone please verify. > > > > Seems to be OK for me, I compiled it from source RPM (and the source RPM > > is taken from sunet) > > The binary I downloaded from sunsite with rsync IS corrupt. > Maybe someone from Mandrake could please give a reason. --- Spence
Re: [Cooker] Another Bad RPM
On Friday 13 April 2001 21:57, you wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Jason Straight wrote: > > XFree86-server-4.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm > > > > How come all the corrupted RPM's today? > > So learn to compile from source yourself, you'll discover much more > problems then that! > > Abel Cheung Yeah, sure and while I'm at it I'll just write my own graphics server as a replacement to X. Why don't we all just do that, then we won't need this mail list to try to find problems. So to what do I owe the extreme pleasure of you popping your head out of your arse long enough to share your enlightening personality with me? Do us a favor and put it back. -- Jason Straight
Re: [Cooker] Groups/users in setup
On 12 Apr 2001 01:23:31 +0400, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > Hi > > > > As I said, I upgraded the setup package. Having a look at the /etc/passwd and > > /etc/group files, I wonder about why there are some users/groups in there. > > > > In /etc/group, what do I need the groups qmail and djbdns for? I don't plan > > on using djbdns and qmail. Further, why is there no group floppy anymore? > > Currently my /dev/fd0* are group owned by floppy - what group should own > > these files? > > > > In /etc/passwd, what do I need the users alias, qmail{d,l,p,q,r,s}, dnscache, > > dnslog, tinydns and axfrdns for? I assume that these are also qmail and > > djbdns related users. Why? Also there are the users postgres, dhcpd, > > named, nscd, apache, rpcuser, rpc and sympa - if I don't use any of these > > servers, what good are these users? > > > > And all these users appear in kdm login user selection window because it > does not know anything abut them :-( > > -andrej > > Use the kdm configurator. In kde it is referred to as login manager. It will let you define who is shown (i.e. all users, just these, except these, etc.).
Re: [Cooker] Another Bad RPM
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Jason Straight wrote: > XFree86-server-4.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm > > How come all the corrupted RPM's today? So learn to compile from source yourself, you'll discover much more problems then that! Abel Cheung
Re: [Cooker] Netscape-common - Probs
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Jason Straight wrote: > Yep it's bad - hard to use urpmi like that. Same thing with XFree-100 fonts > earlier too. > > > > All mirrors that I have checked (sunsite,sunet,etc) seem to have a > > > > corrupted netscape-common -4.77-4mdk rpm. > > > > > > > > Can someone please verify. > > > > > > Seems to be OK for me, I compiled it from source RPM (and the source RPM > > > is taken from sunet) > > > > The binary I downloaded from sunsite with rsync IS corrupt. Seems the bot generating binray RPMs has problems --- not only this 2 rpms, such cases occur many times before. Abel Cheung
Re: [Cooker] Netscape-common - Probs
Yep it's bad - hard to use urpmi like that. Same thing with XFree-100 fonts earlier too. On Friday 13 April 2001 21:04, you wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:31, you wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Spencer wrote: > > > Hi list; > > > > > > All mirrors that I have checked (sunsite,sunet,etc) seem to have a > > > corrupted netscape-common -4.77-4mdk rpm. > > > > > > Can someone please verify. > > > > Seems to be OK for me, I compiled it from source RPM (and the source RPM > > is taken from sunet) > > The binary I downloaded from sunsite with rsync IS corrupt. > > Con. -- Jason Straight
[Cooker] apt database??
Hi Mmmm...am I dreaming or hasn't the apt database in the cooker mirrors been updated at least since yesterday? I've seen a bunch of new packages in changelog@ but apt-get update says nothing is new. I even ran urpmi and got 130 megs of stuff to upgrade! So...what's up? is apt-getting gonna be killed off? Vox -- Pain is the gift of the gods, and I'm the one they chose as their messenger For info on safety in the BDSM lifestyle http://www.the-vox.com Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr. Vox populi, vox deii
[Cooker] Another Bad RPM
XFree86-server-4.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm How come all the corrupted RPM's today? -- Jason Straight
Re: [Cooker] Via chipset bug
> It only happens with big files between two ide hard drives at maximum > throughput and blah blah blah read the report Whew, guess my pr0n^W files are safe for now! ive got a 30gb and a 75gb IBM deskstar both on the primary IDE with a plextor 16/10/40 on the secondary channel. I did notice that ripping from the cdrom incurred a HUGE slowdown on my system (makes an athlon feel like a 486 with 8 copies of netscape running). I figured that this could be overhead from ide-scsi emulation. Or it might be related to what I just read about. Anyways.. whats this bug have to do with the recent Via + reiserfs woes I have been hearing about? Are the recent kernels 'safe' to use, even with hdparm optimizations? Jason
[Cooker] ssh problems
I'm running open ssh on 8.0 beta3 and get the following error whenever someone tries to log in: user gets-login prompt, if it's first connect gets host-key aceptance, then they get password prompt: it never takes password, and yes, we're sure we're tyoing them right :P after 3 tries he gets "Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive)." syslog log shows- APR 13 21:06:01 machinename sshd[pid]: failed password for username from address port ssh2 APR 13 21:06:01 machinename sshd[pid]: failed keyboard-interactive for username from address port ssh2 APR 13 21:06:01 machinename sshd[pid]: connection closed by remote-users-address Anyone have any ideas???the same Openssh version with same exact config file on another machine running the same beta version doesn't give this error, have tried uninstalling and reinstalling openssh also... *boggled* Ryan
Re: [Cooker] Netscape-common - Probs
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:31, you wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Spencer wrote: > > Hi list; > > > > All mirrors that I have checked (sunsite,sunet,etc) seem to have a > > corrupted netscape-common -4.77-4mdk rpm. > > > > Can someone please verify. > > Seems to be OK for me, I compiled it from source RPM (and the source RPM > is taken from sunet) The binary I downloaded from sunsite with rsync IS corrupt. Con.
Re: [Cooker] netscape plugins for konqueror
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:36, you wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I may be dumb, but i can't install a flash plugin for konqueror on a fresh > cooker install. > Documentation make reference to a 'netscape plugin' tab in KDE control > center, that doesn't exists. All i found is an 'external module' tab under > 'konqueror browser' entry, with only one check box. > Just installing the needed files in $HOME/.kde/apps/share/nsplugins doesn't > work, and i couldn't find the system-wide corresponding directory . > $KDE_DIR is not defined either... > - -- > Guillaume Rousse The 4.0 r12 release of the flash plugin for some reason works better than the newer version 5 release from macromedia! It seems to hang the browsers. It looks like the Mandrake folks know that as they have included the 4r12 release. Con.
Re: [Cooker] Via chipset bug
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 04:53, you wrote: > JoAnne wrote: > > The Register: Data-corruption bug hits VIA chipsets(Apr 13, 2001, 15:10 > > UTC) (1719 reads) (4 talkbacks) (Posted by kreichard) > > Dennis E. Powell writes to tell us about the Register's coverage: "The > > kernel crowd have been trying for months to track this thing down; turns > > out now that it's not their fault! > > *OUCH*!!! My AOpen mobo has the VIA chipset... (and it's Friday the > thirteenth!). > Can't afford a new mobo, so does this mean that all the kinky goings on > with my system > _wasn't_ due to beta code, the phase of the moon, or my cat biting me? > <*sheesh*!!> > > ... so what do we do now? ... switch to Windows > Me??? [NOT!!!] > > Elton Woo ;-) It only happens with big files between two ide hard drives at maximum throughput and blah blah blah read the report
Re: [Cooker] Apache fixed in 8.0? (issue solved)
On Friday, Apr 13, 2001, Elton Woo wrote: > You should also edit the /etc/hosts file. > E.g. mine looks like this: > 127.0.01localhost.localdomain localhost > 205.151.222.250 videotron videotron.ca > 205.151.222.251 videotron videotron.ca I take it those last two are your ISP's nameservers... what can be gained from adding them in /etc/hosts? Everything seems to run fine for me just having 127.0.0.1 in there. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ#: 25370820, OpenPGP key at www.keyserver.net 1024D/39F0BBF4 2024 B7CB 10BF 6BE7 2ECE E0FD 1360 0181 39F0 BBF4 Current Linux uptime: 11 hours 37 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] further comments on Traktopel (beta3)
On 4/13/01 9:38 AM, "Elton Woo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But where > are the beautiful Princess Narda, and Lothar? ;-)) Lothar's there - check the name of some of the packages/projects they worked on. Harry
Re: [Cooker] talkd problems....race condition after being portscanned?
- Original Message - From: "Chmouel Boudjnah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker] talkd problemsrace condition after being portscanned? > Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > "Ryan Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > basically the scan calls in.talkd from xinetd (as it should) but the talk > > > daemon continues to run, producing this buttload of errors and eating up 90% > > > of my cpu, sort of a "race condition" this is very very bad in my > > > opinionCan anyone reproduce this? I'm running beta2 with a few things > > > moved around a bit as I've been trying to debug this, I've gotten the same > > > error from several mandrake versions of talkd...I'm out of ideas on this > > > one. > > > > ok i can reproduce should be fixed now in -6mdk. > > you need also the last setup to get it works.. > > -- > MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org > --Chmouel I've also noticed that in.ntalkd doesn't close after ending a remote talk session, it doesn't create the race condition like in.talkd, it just sits there idle though. Also...where can I find talk-0.17-6mdk? or are you saying it WILL be fixed when it comes out... Ryan
Re: [Cooker] initrd for reiserfs
On Friday 13 April 2001 09:44, you wrote: > There seems to be no initrd's for the last few kernels. What a pain it was > when I rebooted my laptop this morning only to find I forgot to make one. What did you do? I tried mkinitrd etc and it coudn't. Then when I tried to copy the result to a text file , Mandracrash and only a hard reboot worked, but then of course I couldn't get back in except thru an emergency disk which i can't access internet through. Now i'm twiddeling. -m-
Re: [Cooker] readline-4.2-1mdk problem
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Chris Wenny wrote: > python-2.0-9mdk and lftp-2.3.8-2mdk fail to build with the latest > readline(4.2). Yes, the API of readline seems to be changed a little bit between 4.1 and 4.2... since so many packages depend on readline and it's freezing, it'd be a good idea to revert back to 4.1 Abel Cheung
Re: [Cooker] Netscape-common - Probs
"R.I.P. Deaddog" wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Spencer wrote: > > > Hi list; > > > > All mirrors that I have checked (sunsite,sunet,etc) seem to have a > > corrupted netscape-common -4.77-4mdk rpm. > > > > Can someone please verify. > > Seems to be OK for me, I compiled it from source RPM (and the source RPM > is taken from sunet) > I just checked the RPMS and I see netscape-communicator and navigator are missing so I think this is why I got a bad rpm message ;( --- Spence
[Cooker] kio_uiserver problems
Hello, Has anyone else noticed that sometimes KPackage and Konqueror, when saving files to the disk from a ftp server, will not figure out the end of the download correctly? At the end of the file it will say it's 99% complete and stalled, rather than finished. Looking at the file and comparing the length with the original shows that the file is, indeed, complete. Isn't a problem with konqueror, other than an annoyance, but is a problem in KPackage, and won't move to the next file if one is stalled. Vinny
Re: [Cooker] Kernel 24319 and big problema
First... did you make a floppy boot disk. Those things are good things to have! There appears to be a problem upgrading the kernel, esp from Mandrake Update using rpmdrake. It is not properly creating an initrd.img link and there can be other problems found in the /boot directory. Here is how I have worked around it. as root go to /usr/src/linux (as long as it is linked to a 2.4 kernel) type "make install" without quotes. When it has been completed (it will take a while), type "lilo" and make sure your linux kernel made it successfully. You should be able to reboot fine now. --- michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am currently writing this from a small install on > a different hd (hde6) > than my cooker/Beta3 one. I attempted to install > kernel 2.4.3-19mdk thias > morning and when I rebooted, I could get no further > than the first line of > the boot process. So I attempted to reinstall > 2.4.3-17 but now it doesn't > work either. > > I am lost here. How can I get back into my hda10 > partition? > > Thanks > -michael- > = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] netscape plugins for konqueror
Dans l'article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Guillaume Rousse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I may be dumb, but i can't install a flash plugin for konqueror on a > fresh cooker install. > Documentation make reference to a 'netscape plugin' tab in KDE control > center, that doesn't exists. All i found is an 'external module' tab > under 'konqueror browser' entry, with only one check box. Just > installing the needed files in $HOME/.kde/apps/share/nsplugins doesn't > work, and i couldn't find the system-wide corresponding directory . > $KDE_DIR is not defined either... It is in netscape-plugins rpm (at least 4.77-7mdk) -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] USB detection...(beta 3)
Elton Woo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > but Traktopel still sees my Logitech Optical usb (wheel) mouse as "usb > generic" and *not* "usb wheel". During "expert" give /proc/bus/usb/devices
[Cooker] incomplete package selection on startup
During setup I notice a lot of packages that are in the RPMS dir but not in the list to select on startup , sendmail for one. -- Jason Straight
[Cooker] XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm - bad rpm
Just rsynced this from sunet. [root@jkd Mandrake]# urpmi.addmedia RPMS file://home/ftp/pub/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/ building hdlist [/var/cache/urpmi/partial/hdlist.RPMS.cz] /home/ftp/pub/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS//XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm unable to build hdlist: bad rpm /home/ftp/pub/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS//XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm -- Jason Straight
Re: [Cooker] Netscape-common - Probs
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Spencer wrote: > Hi list; > > All mirrors that I have checked (sunsite,sunet,etc) seem to have a > corrupted netscape-common -4.77-4mdk rpm. > > Can someone please verify. Seems to be OK for me, I compiled it from source RPM (and the source RPM is taken from sunet) Abel Cheung
[expert] Installation Parameter to Specify Video Card?
Is there a parameter I can pass to the installation script to specify my video card? The automatic detection is not working properly for my video card in Mandrake 7.2 and 8.0 beta 3. (My video chip is an SiS 630, the installation always gets hung at the start of the X installation procedure, and displays the message: An error occurred Can't call method "set_active" on an undefined value I'm assuming the installation procedure does not detect the card, and then does not supply a parameter for the "set_active" method.) Since I am not sure that the SiS 630 chip is supported, I would like to specify either the generic VGA driver or the frame buffer. Thanks! Randy Kramer PS: I think this is something that needs to be fixed for Mandrake 8.0, unless it is already fixed in rc1.
[Cooker] readline-4.2-1mdk problem
python-2.0-9mdk and lftp-2.3.8-2mdk fail to build with the latest readline(4.2). =Spike=
Re: [Cooker] netscape plugins for konqueror
Guillaume Rousse wrote: > I may be dumb, but i can't install a flash plugin for konqueror on a fresh > cooker install. ... you ned to install Plugger. It will give you the ability to play flash in Netscape, and konqueror will pick up on that. > > Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. > O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist. Murphy & O'Toole: my most favorite ancient Irish philosophers! Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[Cooker] 100dpi default fonts bugged ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 With a fresh install today, only XFree 100 dpi fonts were added, and result in KDE was very ugly. I looked frantically through archives for this topic, hacking my configuration near one hour with no real success. I just found that adobe-helvetica size 12 lacks accentued caracters... I finally just installed also 75dpi and restarted X, and everything was OK. So, are the 100dpi bugged ? And why are they installed preferentially ? - -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE614eHbkD45ZWqj1IRApapAJ9CEpvWxkfJ2rXfCVRlzgohh8/RbgCcCYnM xnQvih8W9rUDQtOPT4nP2Hw= =9eke -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] USB detection...(beta 3)
With a beta, I do usually do several clean installs. I thought with the new 2.4.* kernel that usb devices would be automatically detected and configured. However, my Epson Perfection 610 usb isn't. I still had to manually edit /etc/rc.d/rd.local --> modprobe scanner vendor=0x04b8 product=0x0103 then comment out everything in /etc/sane.d/epson.conf, and append --> usb /dev/usb/scanner0. (Thanks to advice from the SANE list). What *USB* devices are actually detected on installation? AFAIK, at least mice and keyboards should be no problem, but Traktopel still sees my Logitech Optical usb (wheel) mouse as "usb generic" and *not* "usb wheel". During "expert" install, when told to test the mouse, the pointer *invariably* loses itself in the _top right corner_ of the screen... respectfully, Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[Cooker] Netscape-common - Probs
Hi list; All mirrors that I have checked (sunsite,sunet,etc) seem to have a corrupted netscape-common -4.77-4mdk rpm. Can someone please verify. TIA --- Spence
Re: [Cooker] MD5 sums and RC1
Elton Woo wrote: > > michael wrote: > > > I burnt an ISO of rc1 today, and it won't install. I haven't checked the md5 > > sum of the file(s) cuz man md5 doesn't make very much sense to me > > however, the filesize is 651548K for #1 and 651722K for #2. > > > > How do I use md5 sum check? > > -- > > pax > > -m- > > Woo's Wierd Linux Trick #000.00.1 (of 1): > > 1) Download the md5sum file, which is plain ascii text. Why not: md5sum -c Done; no need for the rest... > 2) From a console do: #md5sum {whatever.iso} . It takes a while to calculate, > so in the meantime: > 3) Open the md5sum text file with the Text Editor > 4) Place a CR or two just below the line in md5sum where it says: > "whatever.iso" {sums} > 5)Copy and paste the result from the console immediately below this line. > If all the characters match up, your download is OK. > > NB: I do it this way, because > 1) I usually run my 17" monitor at 1024 x 768 > 2) I'm not a programmer > 3) I'm *terrible* at math, and last but not least... > 4) I'm a dummy who doesn't want to use *any* Microsoft stuff: hardware or > software. > . not necessarily in that order ... > > cheers, saluti, salutations ... > > Elton Woo ;-)) > > -- > Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. > Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. > "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." -- Linux (Up 22 days) -- Reboots are for system upgrades... not Windows X^P Last reboot reason: 01/03/27: winter storm 6hr power outage
Re: [Cooker] Kernel 4.3.17mdk panics
As long as /usr/src/linux links to the 2.4 src directory... I would think yes. Otherwise go directly to the 2.4 source directory and do a make install. --- Giles Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > SI Reasoning wrote: > > > I always check my /boot record and manually run > lilo > > before I ever reboot after a kernel upgrade. I bet > you > > can guess why now! > > > heh yeah - the question is though (and this is where > my stupidity > becomes overwhelming), is it possible to fix this > without a boot disk? I > didn't make one > > However, I do still have a kernel 2.2. option in > lilo, which still > functions perfectly with the exception that it > appears to have no > support for a ppp module. Could I boot up in kernel > 2.2 and do the whole > 'make install' thing? > > Giles > > = SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] gnupg/pgp key id 035213BC __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[Cooker] using DHCP with Gnome...
.. as much as I like KDE, I would also like to use Gnome . As I haven't used Gnome much in the past, I'm unsure if this is a Gnome or Mandrake problem: I'm on a cable connection, so naturally I have a dynamic IP address. After I log into the Gnome desktop, it complains that it can't find DHCP (since it's not in the hosts file). Is there some way to "fix" this? Elton Woo ;-) {yes, I AM a linux newbie!} -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[Cooker] installing updates via ftp fails? (beta 3)
Using the Mandrake update, I cannot get newer versions of packages installed. The software manager configures my (IDE) CDRom as CD1, and my (SCSI, ID 0) CDRW as CD2. NOTE to Mandrake developers: in fstab: /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom2 (why no /dev/cdrom1?). Problem: logging on to a mirror, "Cooker" or "Updates"I get the installable list, and select a newer package version. Installer fails, reporting that the package is "already installed" on the system. Doesn't the software manager recognise the newer versions? Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[Cooker] where to get the Netscape 4.77 mandrake rpm?
I've recently joined this list so I may have missed the announcement. Could someone kindly direct me where I may download the mandrake rpm package of Netscape Communicator 4.77? TIA, Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Cooker] Apache fixed in 8.0? (issue solved)
Paul Cox wrote: > I'm just curious, this is all I have in my hosts file for 7.2: > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > Was that in there already and you had to add your specific information, > or was it empty? I'm curious because I have a dynamic ip address. That's created by default. I'm also on cable with dynamic IP. You should also edit the /etc/hosts file. E.g. mine looks like this: 127.0.01localhost.localdomain localhost 205.151.222.250 videotron videotron.ca 205.151.222.251 videotron videotron.ca HTH and cheers, Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Cooker] further comments on Traktopel (beta3)
Daouda LO wrote: > rpm -qpi name_of_the_package.rpm gives you the packager/maintainer of the package . ... as they say in Provence: "merci bien"... I've just learnt another command! (sorry, I'm more of a "mouse" than a "man" person, but not _too afraid_ to learn) salutations, Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[Cooker] comment: Xearth doesn't run properly from the menu
Encountered this same problem with Wolverine, as well. When Xearth is started from the KDE menu, it covers the desktop icons. Any windows that are moved, "erase" it and leave a blue space on screen. N.B. No such problem when invoked in Gnome. I reported this to the developer, who instructed me that under KDE, it should be invoked thus: Control Panel -> LookNFeel->Background-> Mode-> Background Program -> Setup. Perhaps it should be removed from the Mandrake menu? ... juste "une puce à l'oreille aux gens de Mandrake... cordialement, Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Cooker] I have a DVD player and a Film. And now?! =:-)
Claudio wrote: > Hi all! > I would like to test cooker with dvd. > I'd like to know: > -Is there a program which I can use to see dvd? Best place to start would be LiViD (The Linux Video and DVD Project) http://www.linuxvideo.org/. check out the "resources" link. This should point you in the right direction... > -Must the dvd be mounted like a data cd or not, like an audio-cd? > ... ... as data, then use Xmovie with the DVD plugin, or another player (Cf. LiViD). HTH Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Cooker] Via chipset bug
JoAnne wrote: > The Register: Data-corruption bug hits VIA chipsets(Apr 13, 2001, 15:10 UTC) > (1719 reads) (4 talkbacks) (Posted by kreichard) > Dennis E. Powell writes to tell us about the Register's coverage: "The kernel > crowd have been trying for months to track this thing down; turns out now > that it's not their fault! *OUCH*!!! My AOpen mobo has the VIA chipset... (and it's Friday the thirteenth!). Can't afford a new mobo, so does this mean that all the kinky goings on with my system _wasn't_ due to beta code, the phase of the moon, or my cat biting me? <*sheesh*!!> ... so what do we do now? ... switch to Windows Me??? [NOT!!!] Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[Cooker] ATT wireless broadband
Has anyone been abloe to connect to the internet thru ATT broadband wireless using Linux??? -m-
Re: [Cooker] Traktopel installation time
Millions of electrons died to bring me this message. Was it worth it, Nguyen Hung.Takeshi? > hi all! > I ve chosen full installation for Traktopel3 (install all packages), it took > about 3.5 hours ;) while when I tried to isntall Redhat FisherBeta, it took > only about 50 mins ;). > why? Does the installer tune the hard disks (hdparm)? Boot up into the installer, then switch to the second console. Mount a linux partition that has hdparm if it isn't on the cd, then test your disk(s). If they say something like 3.5 mb/s, they're not tuned. By doing that trick, I could cut installation time for 7.2 from over an hour to twenty minutes. I haven't checked cooker recently, though. (exam crunch :( -- Graham Percival
Re: [Cooker] I have a DVD player and a Film. And now?! =:-)
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 05:29:21PM +0200, Claudio wrote: > Hi all! > I would like to test cooker with dvd. > Well, I bought a dvd player, mounted it (it's hdd), it works fine as a normal > cd-rom. Now I got even a film but I know nothing about making it work!!! > I'd like to know: > -Is there a program which I can use to see dvd? > -How do I have to use it? > -Must the dvd be mounted like a data cd or not, like an audio-cd? > ... you can use VideoLan or vlc in contribs : vlc-0.2.71-1mdk for legal issues the package does not contain any deCSS code.. look at www.videolan.org if you want have it :) (there will be rpms for 8.0 soon) yves -- Yves Duret himself
Re: [Cooker] Kernel 24319 and big problema
michael wrote: > I am currently writing this from a small install on a different hd (hde6) > than my cooker/Beta3 one. I attempted to install kernel 2.4.3-19mdk thias > morning and when I rebooted, I could get no further than the first line of > the boot process. So I attempted to reinstall 2.4.3-17 but now it doesn't > work either. > > I am lost here. How can I get back into my hda10 partition? > Did you run lilo after installing the new kernel? 1) As root, from a console: #/sbin/telnit S 2) Full screen prompt: sh# mkinitrd initrd 2.4.3-19.img 2.4.3-19 3) Check that the *.img file is now in /boot, or move/copy it there (it might be in /, instead of in /boot). 4) Edit /etc/lilo.conf to show both entries with the 2.3.4.img 5) Do: #/sbin/lilo{*extremely* important, or else you won't be able to reboot into the system. Now shutdown / reboot (YMMV, since this is _advice from a newbie_) cheers, Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[Cooker] RE: [Contrib-Rpm] sympa-3.0.3-1mdk
Curious if you're aware of the RPMs from sympa.org made for Mandrake. They are somewhat hidden, actually in with the Red Hat RPMs. Visit: http://listes.cru.fr/sympa/distribution/binaries/SRPMS They even have the 3.1beta RPMs there. You may want to talk to them about merging changes and such, if you haven't already. Don Head SAIR LCA, CIW-P, i-Net+, Network+, A+ Linux and A+ Mentor [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Content Developer [ 1 314 692-1942 ] Wave Technologies, Inc. [ 1 800 826-4640 x1942 ] [ AIM - Don Wave ] [ ICQ - 18804935 ] [ Yahoo - Don_Wave ] -Original Message- From: Gwenole Beauchesne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:15 To: Changelog List Subject: [Contrib-Rpm] sympa-3.0.3-1mdk [Contrib-RPM] --=-=-= Name: sympaRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 3.0.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Fri Apr 13 13:14:51 2001 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: no.mandrakesoft.com Group : System/ServersSource RPM: (none) Size: 719849 License: GPL Packager: Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://listes.cru.fr/sympa/ Summary : SYMPA is an electronic mailing list manager Description : SYMPA is an electronic mailing list manager. It is used to automate list management functions such as subscription, moderation and management of archives. SYMPA also manages sending of messages to the lists, and makes it possible to reduce the load on the system. Provided that you have enough memory on your system, Sympa is especially well adapted for big lists. For a list with 20 000 subscribers, it takes 5 minutes to send a message to 90% of subscribers, of course considering that the network is available. Documentation is available under HTML and SGML (source) formats. --=-=-= * Fri Apr 13 2001 Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3.0.3-1mdk - updated to stable version 3.0.3 - sanitized specfile (s/Copyright/License, server macros, Requires, etc.) - sanitized build process: DESTDIR is set to /var/lib/sympa - added directory in sympa home for pids - added missing variables when generating config files (patch0) - fixed file to chown (wwsympa.conf) in %post section - fixed syslog variable in /etc/[ww]sympa.conf - removed patch1: log_socket_type=inet, openssl path are set correctly - removed patch2: use_fast_cgi=0, no html archives (mhonarc path unset) -- http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3
[Cooker] Via chipset bug
The Register: Data-corruption bug hits VIA chipsets(Apr 13, 2001, 15:10 UTC) (1719 reads) (4 talkbacks) (Posted by kreichard) Dennis E. Powell writes to tell us about the Register's coverage: "The kernel crowd have been trying for months to track this thing down; turns out now that it's not their fault! >From Linux today
[Cooker] Via chipset bug
The Register: Data-corruption bug hits VIA chipsets(Apr 13, 2001, 15:10 UTC) (1719 reads) (4 talkbacks) (Posted by kreichard) Dennis E. Powell writes to tell us about the Register's coverage: "The kernel crowd have been trying for months to track this thing down; turns out now that it's not their fault! >From Linux today
[Cooker] KDE Panel Icon's
On first login with KDE I get the default gear icons on my panel- if I log out and log back in then the icons show up correctly - what can be causing this? What can I do to fix it? I'm running kdebase-2.1.1-7mdk. -- Jason Straight
[Cooker] Via chipset bug
The Register: Data-corruption bug hits VIA chipsets(Apr 13, 2001, 15:10 UTC) (1719 reads) (4 talkbacks) (Posted by kreichard) Dennis E. Powell writes to tell us about the Register's coverage: "The kernel crowd have been trying for months to track this thing down; turns out now that it's not their fault! >From Linux today
[Cooker] initrd for reiserfs
There seems to be no initrd's for the last few kernels. What a pain it was when I rebooted my laptop this morning only to find I forgot to make one. -- Jason Straight
Re: [Cooker] OpenUniverse bombs - needs OpenGL GLX
On Friday 13 April 2001 10:18, you wrote: > Vincent Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > GLUT: Fatal Error in openuniverse: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by > > display: :0.0 > > > It's a parameter to your X server. > > If you don't have it, you probably don't have accel anyway. DO have accel, and used to have OpenGL working. Get a similar error with xtraceroute, which worked a couple installs ago. Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? Also, problem with DVD players and assorted other video thingies on Trident Cyber 9793DVD chipset seems to be related to flags in the config file. I will send an update with what does and doesn't work to you and Pixel when done. V.
Re: [Cooker] I have a DVD player and a Film. And now?! =:-)
On Friday 13 April 2001 16:29, Claudio wrote: > Hi all! > I would like to test cooker with dvd. > Well, I bought a dvd player, mounted it (it's hdd), it works fine as a > normal cd-rom. Now I got even a film but I know nothing about making it > work!!! I'd like to know: > -Is there a program which I can use to see dvd? Yes, xine. Mount your dvd just like a data cd; start xine and right-click in the xine video output window to show/hide the controller; click "DVD" on the controller and press the start button. Enjoy! > -How do I have to use it? > -Must the dvd be mounted like a data cd or not, like an audio-cd? > ... > > Many thanks, Claudio -- Linux Mandrake release 7.2 (Odyssey) for i586 KDE 2.1 Linux 2.2.17-27mdkWin4Lin, Uptime 0 hours 50 minutes
[Cooker] netscape plugins for konqueror
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I may be dumb, but i can't install a flash plugin for konqueror on a fresh cooker install. Documentation make reference to a 'netscape plugin' tab in KDE control center, that doesn't exists. All i found is an 'external module' tab under 'konqueror browser' entry, with only one check box. Just installing the needed files in $HOME/.kde/apps/share/nsplugins doesn't work, and i couldn't find the system-wide corresponding directory . $KDE_DIR is not defined either... - -- Guillaume Rousse Murphy's law : If anything can go wrong, it will. O'Tool's commentary : Murphy was an optimist. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6141kbkD45ZWqj1IRAoOpAJ9mAG7Csorv3ZfT+KqqqPH/FPp5hwCeMZr4 PjqgtU52Bs1Bs8CSYBwxGPk= =eKY9 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Kernel 24319 and big problema
I am currently writing this from a small install on a different hd (hde6) than my cooker/Beta3 one. I attempted to install kernel 2.4.3-19mdk thias morning and when I rebooted, I could get no further than the first line of the boot process. So I attempted to reinstall 2.4.3-17 but now it doesn't work either. I am lost here. How can I get back into my hda10 partition? Thanks -michael-
Re: [Cooker] OpenUniverse bombs - needs OpenGL GLX
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Vincent Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hello, > > > > Tried to test OpenUniverse today. Starting it in a terminal results in : > > > > GLUT: Fatal Error in openuniverse: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by > > display: :0.0 > > > > What are these things, and shouldn't they be in the dependencies for > > openuniverse? > > It's a parameter to your X server. > > If you don't have it, you probably don't have accel anyway. > > -- > Guillaume Cottenceau - http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ I was wondering *why* Openuniverse failed to run when invoked from the menu. After reading the above, I tried from the console, and got the identical output. My video card a 3D Force B32 Pro (nVidia / Vanta chip, 32 Mb). I feel reasonably certain that I *had* installed OpenGL, but will re-check my system. cheers, Elton Woo ;-) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Cooker] MD5 sums and RC1
michael wrote: > I burnt an ISO of rc1 today, and it won't install. I haven't checked the md5 > sum of the file(s) cuz man md5 doesn't make very much sense to me > however, the filesize is 651548K for #1 and 651722K for #2. > > How do I use md5 sum check? > -- > pax > -m- Woo's Wierd Linux Trick #000.00.1 (of 1): 1) Download the md5sum file, which is plain ascii text. 2) From a console do: #md5sum {whatever.iso} . It takes a while to calculate, so in the meantime: 3) Open the md5sum text file with the Text Editor 4) Place a CR or two just below the line in md5sum where it says: "whatever.iso" {sums} 5)Copy and paste the result from the console immediately below this line. If all the characters match up, your download is OK. NB: I do it this way, because 1) I usually run my 17" monitor at 1024 x 768 2) I'm not a programmer 3) I'm *terrible* at math, and last but not least... 4) I'm a dummy who doesn't want to use *any* Microsoft stuff: hardware or software. . not necessarily in that order ... cheers, saluti, salutations ... Elton Woo ;-)) -- Have you been counted? See http://counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ#9984432 - Montreal, Quebec, CANADA. Registered Linux User #193975. AMD-K2 CPU on board. "You only live once, so let's make life easier for each other." S/MIME Cryptographic Signature