Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
Unfortunately, OOo 1.1 still has several bugs, not the least of which is that it still mangles the occassional Excel spreadsheet in a manner similar to OOo 1.0.2. I had to revert to OOo 1.0.3.1 at work to interoperate with the Excel users. Thomas Spuhler wrote: What are you waiting for to release the distro. If it is for the formal released version of OpenOffice 1.1 then congratulation! I am a marketing person of a mid-size corporation and strongly supporting Linux at work. Releasing a distro with OpenOffice RC would not be a wise move from a marketing point. There are always bugs in a program, regardless how long you test it. If it's a RC then that will be the first thing everybody notices and will relate it to a second class distro. If a few more days are needed to incorporate the released version, then please consider to do so. This is just my 2 cent advice. Tom
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
Robert L martin kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Sunnuntai 05 Lokakuu 2003 02:33): > > Allas. CD's are read-only. > > assuming that the PHB even looks at the program that closely its a > fairly easy handwave since if you are on the OO.o list the community > manager said and i quote > "> Hi > > > In my enthusiasm for OpenOffice.org 1.1, I neglected to clarify a point > > > > OpenOffice.org 1.1.0 is *identical* to the recently released > > OpenOffice.org RC5. > > > > Therefore, if you have downloaded RC5, there is no need to download 1.1. > > > > - > > Louis Suárez-Potts > > Community Manager > > OpenOffice.org > > " > so since RC5 was more or less a "hammer this and see if anything breaks" > copy we should be clear even if we have rc4 on disc Yeah... and since we have many patches applied to the RC4, it's a RC4++ ;-) and compared to 1.0.3 this one is a giant leap forward... -- Regards Thomas
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
Allas. CD's are read-only. assuming that the PHB even looks at the program that closely its a fairly easy handwave since if you are on the OO.o list the community manager said and i quote "> Hi In my enthusiasm for OpenOffice.org 1.1, I neglected to clarify a point OpenOffice.org 1.1.0 is *identical* to the recently released OpenOffice.org RC5. Therefore, if you have downloaded RC5, there is no need to download 1.1. - Louis Suárez-Potts Community Manager OpenOffice.org " so since RC5 was more or less a "hammer this and see if anything breaks" copy we should be clear even if we have rc4 on disc
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
[ I hoped to avoid this thread ... ] > I don't know if the font problem when exporting to PDF is in the Linux > version as well. OK, so we'll ship a 500MB update (SRPM=300MB, RPMS=200MB) for a bug which may not even affect us? This just isn't going to happen unless there is a really important bug which has been fixed. > > I wasn't the only one who discovered it (resp. my wife), it was also on > a report last week about the new Staroffice. It was mentioned that > Staroffice doesn't have this bug. > That was when OO was still RC5 > I know it's not solved in the released version > > BTW I filed a bug report. > Tom > [Please don't top post ... it seems all the new subscribers are doing it, making this thread even worse ... ] > > > > On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 12:00, LE BERRE Daniel wrote: >> Taken from OOo web site: >> 8<-- >> OpenOffice.org 1.1.0 Fixes >> >> OpenOffice.ortg 1.1.0 (1.1) incorporates all the fixes listed below. >> >> Below is the list of issues fixed in RC4. For discussion on these >> fixes, please look at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives for >> September. >> >> * 18749 Symbol font doesn't print. Default font is printed >> instead * 19473 Installation shows squares instead of Chinese >> characters >> >> >> >> RC 4 Fixes >> >> >> >> 16314 quickstarter causes freeze on log off with multiple >> users. x Investigation of several translation issues >> 4766,18425,18307,18733 installguides to be include - in >> progress for English, German, French, Italian >> 1 missing help topics (chart, installation, database >> func., common help topics) >> 1 fix to 1.1.0 in install.sh >> 15100 mail merge - committed >> 16909 deadlock in example text document >> 17582 chines fonts displayed as squares - partly fixed in rc3 >> 18343 german readme >> 18385 upgrade installation crashes >> 18447 combobox disaprears >> 18497 hang while open sample issue text document >> 18586 l10n merge issue >> 18640 wrong page at presentation start >> 18641 modified flags set under certain conditions >> 18670 wrong call to JNI >> 18744 bibliographic database lost after update of 1.0.3 >> >> >> internal 109606 text disappears in presentation >> internal 111716 loop >> internal 111902 crash pressing edit button in RO document >> internal 111651 print monitor >> internal 111622 crash inserting OLE object in Math. >> internal 111893, 111889 may be related to 17582, committed to >> rc4 >> internal 112020 Update still override some user settings >> (*bau) >> >> -8< >> >> My understanding is that most fixes are in RC4, and only two bugs were >> fixed in RC5 (==final). Well, in cooker/9.2 we have RC4, plus a lot of patches from IZ/CVS which Gwenole merged. From what I remember of what he posted (all you people complaining can go and search in the cooker archives), he reckoned there were about 4 patches in RC5 which we don't have, none of which were of importance. >> >> In OO mailing list, one can find some developers complain about the >> serious bugs left in the final release ...:-=) >> >> Daniel >> >> Le sam 04/10/2003 à 20:29, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit : >> > Could the updated OOo 1.1.0 be relaesed as an update? >> > I am sure they fixed a number of things between RC 4 and the 1.1.0 >> > >> > best regards >> > keld >> > >> > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:26:24AM -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote: >> > > I would fully support to rename the packages if still possible. >> Just get the RC out of the package names (rpm names). It is still >> named RC4 in cooker And what would that help? The version returned by a query on the package would still show the RC4, as well as a query on the database if it were installed. Plus, the hdlists would have to be updated. The most visible version numbers all just say 1.1. The users who know enough to check version numbers can go and check the relevant changelogs. >> > > Tom >> > > >> > > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 21:25, Rob wrote: >> > > > On Saturday 04 October 2003 00:06, Han Boetes wrote: >> > > > > > I don't know which RC ended up in 9.2, but RC5 and 1.1 are >> identical. Might as well just rename the package, if it's >> RC5. >> > > > > Allas. CD's are read-only. >> > > > >> > > > The CD's have already gone to duplication? Cool! Show me the >> torrents ;) The images are finalised, apparently in internal testing. Additionally, you may have noticed this small issue of the release schedule, which includes things like version freeze. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseInfo#Schedule_estimation_WarLy That was more than a month ago. That means that no version changes can occur in main without release m
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
I don't know if the font problem when exporting to PDF is in the Linux version as well. I wasn't the only one who discovered it (resp. my wife), it was also on a report last week about the new Staroffice. It was mentioned that Staroffice doesn't have this bug. That was when OO was still RC5 I know it's not solved in the released version. BTW I filed a bug report. Tom On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 12:00, LE BERRE Daniel wrote: > Taken from OOo web site: > 8<-- > OpenOffice.org 1.1.0 Fixes > > OpenOffice.ortg 1.1.0 (1.1) incorporates all the fixes listed below. > > Below is the list of issues fixed in RC4. For discussion on these fixes, > please look at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives for September. > > * 18749 Symbol font doesn't print. Default font is printed instead > * 19473 Installation shows squares instead of Chinese characters > > > > RC 4 Fixes > > > > 16314 quickstarter causes freeze on log off with multiple users. > x Investigation of several translation issues > 4766,18425,18307,18733 installguides to be include - in progress > for English, German, French, Italian > 1 missing help topics (chart, installation, database func., > common help topics) > 1 fix to 1.1.0 in install.sh > 15100 mail merge - committed > 16909 deadlock in example text document > 17582 chines fonts displayed as squares - partly fixed in rc3 > 18343 german readme > 18385 upgrade installation crashes > 18447 combobox disaprears > 18497 hang while open sample issue text document > 18586 l10n merge issue > 18640 wrong page at presentation start > 18641 modified flags set under certain conditions > 18670 wrong call to JNI > 18744 bibliographic database lost after update of 1.0.3 > > > internal 109606 text disappears in presentation > internal 111716 loop > internal 111902 crash pressing edit button in RO document > internal 111651 print monitor > internal 111622 crash inserting OLE object in Math. > internal 111893, 111889 may be related to 17582, committed to > rc4 > internal 112020 Update still override some user settings (*bau) > > -8< > > My understanding is that most fixes are in RC4, and only two bugs > were fixed in RC5 (==final). > > In OO mailing list, one can find some developers complain about the > serious bugs left in the final release ...:-=) > > Daniel > > Le sam 04/10/2003 à 20:29, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit : > > Could the updated OOo 1.1.0 be relaesed as an update? > > I am sure they fixed a number of things between RC 4 and the 1.1.0 > > > > best regards > > keld > > > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:26:24AM -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote: > > > I would fully support to rename the packages if still possible. Just get > > > the RC out of the package names (rpm names). It is still named RC4 in > > > cooker > > > Tom > > > > > > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 21:25, Rob wrote: > > > > On Saturday 04 October 2003 00:06, Han Boetes wrote: > > > > > > I don't know which RC ended up in 9.2, but RC5 and 1.1 are > > > > > > identical. Might as well just rename the package, if it's > > > > > > RC5. > > > > > Allas. CD's are read-only. > > > > > > > > The CD's have already gone to duplication? Cool! Show me the > > > > torrents ;) > > > > > > > > Rob signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 09:39:56PM +, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > áùáú, 4 áàå÷èåáø 2003, 19:14, ðëúá òì éãé Simon Oosthoek: > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 08:43:07PM +, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > > > I agree. Also seeing "rc4" "beta2" on a running system does look bad. > > > A "security update" or just "update" will be a good idea IMHO. > > > > I'm sure the final of 9.2 will have no sign of a RC on oo.o 1.1 (that was > > the case on the rc2 of 9.2) I don't know for sure, but I think rc5 was > > picked up before the CDs reached their master state for duplication. I'm > > confident that no average end user will notice anything of the fact that > > it's actually a RC and not the renamed 1.1 final. > that is not what I am talking about. > Even in rc19 is exactly final, it's nice to have an rpm which is named final. > It looks better for the "ignorant public". I believe you are exaggerating the problem, since if applied strictly, your line of thinking would make 1.0.3 final better than 1.1rc5, which I seriously doubt. In fact, if this is really your feeling, I can definately recommend debian stable! It may be a few years out of date on average, but it's definately considered to be a very stable distribution (although it does contain some packages in beta or RC releases), never mind... Simon
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
בשבת, 4 באוקטובר 2003, 19:14, נכתב על ידי Simon Oosthoek: > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 08:43:07PM +, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > > I agree. Also seeing "rc4" "beta2" on a running system does look bad. > > A "security update" or just "update" will be a good idea IMHO. > > I'm sure the final of 9.2 will have no sign of a RC on oo.o 1.1 (that was > the case on the rc2 of 9.2) I don't know for sure, but I think rc5 was > picked up before the CDs reached their master state for duplication. I'm > confident that no average end user will notice anything of the fact that > it's actually a RC and not the renamed 1.1 final. that is not what I am talking about. Even in rc19 is exactly final, it's nice to have an rpm which is named final. It looks better for the "ignorant public". > I believe all this was already mentioned in this thread or another, so I > guess I'm falling for a troll ;-) > > Cheers > > Simon -- diego, 9 Tishrey 5764 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 08:43:07PM +, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > I agree. Also seeing "rc4" "beta2" on a running system does look bad. > A "security update" or just "update" will be a good idea IMHO. I'm sure the final of 9.2 will have no sign of a RC on oo.o 1.1 (that was the case on the rc2 of 9.2) I don't know for sure, but I think rc5 was picked up before the CDs reached their master state for duplication. I'm confident that no average end user will notice anything of the fact that it's actually a RC and not the renamed 1.1 final. I believe all this was already mentioned in this thread or another, so I guess I'm falling for a troll ;-) Cheers Simon
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
Taken from OOo web site: 8<-- OpenOffice.org 1.1.0 Fixes OpenOffice.ortg 1.1.0 (1.1) incorporates all the fixes listed below. Below is the list of issues fixed in RC4. For discussion on these fixes, please look at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] archives for September. * 18749 Symbol font doesn't print. Default font is printed instead * 19473 Installation shows squares instead of Chinese characters RC 4 Fixes 16314 quickstarter causes freeze on log off with multiple users. x Investigation of several translation issues 4766,18425,18307,18733 installguides to be include - in progress for English, German, French, Italian 1 missing help topics (chart, installation, database func., common help topics) 1 fix to 1.1.0 in install.sh 15100 mail merge - committed 16909 deadlock in example text document 17582 chines fonts displayed as squares - partly fixed in rc3 18343 german readme 18385 upgrade installation crashes 18447 combobox disaprears 18497 hang while open sample issue text document 18586 l10n merge issue 18640 wrong page at presentation start 18641 modified flags set under certain conditions 18670 wrong call to JNI 18744 bibliographic database lost after update of 1.0.3 internal 109606 text disappears in presentation internal 111716 loop internal 111902 crash pressing edit button in RO document internal 111651 print monitor internal 111622 crash inserting OLE object in Math. internal 111893, 111889 may be related to 17582, committed to rc4 internal 112020 Update still override some user settings (*bau) -8< My understanding is that most fixes are in RC4, and only two bugs were fixed in RC5 (==final). In OO mailing list, one can find some developers complain about the serious bugs left in the final release ...:-=) Daniel Le sam 04/10/2003 à 20:29, Keld Jørn Simonsen a écrit : > Could the updated OOo 1.1.0 be relaesed as an update? > I am sure they fixed a number of things between RC 4 and the 1.1.0 > > best regards > keld > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:26:24AM -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote: > > I would fully support to rename the packages if still possible. Just get > > the RC out of the package names (rpm names). It is still named RC4 in > > cooker > > Tom > > > > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 21:25, Rob wrote: > > > On Saturday 04 October 2003 00:06, Han Boetes wrote: > > > > > I don't know which RC ended up in 9.2, but RC5 and 1.1 are > > > > > identical. Might as well just rename the package, if it's > > > > > RC5. > > > > Allas. CD's are read-only. > > > > > > The CD's have already gone to duplication? Cool! Show me the > > > torrents ;) > > > > > > Rob > > > >
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
I agree. Also seeing "rc4" "beta2" on a running system does look bad. A "security update" or just "update" will be a good idea IMHO. בשבת, 4 באוקטובר 2003, 18:29, נכתב על ידי Keld Jørn Simonsen: > Could the updated OOo 1.1.0 be relaesed as an update? > I am sure they fixed a number of things between RC 4 and the 1.1.0 > > best regards > keld > > On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:26:24AM -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote: > > I would fully support to rename the packages if still possible. Just get > > the RC out of the package names (rpm names). It is still named RC4 in > > cooker > > Tom > > > > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 21:25, Rob wrote: > > > On Saturday 04 October 2003 00:06, Han Boetes wrote: > > > > > I don't know which RC ended up in 9.2, but RC5 and 1.1 are > > > > > identical. Might as well just rename the package, if it's > > > > > RC5. > > > > > > > > Allas. CD's are read-only. > > > > > > The CD's have already gone to duplication? Cool! Show me the > > > torrents ;) > > > > > > Rob -- diego, 9 Tishrey 5764 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
Austin: You are right, but they have about 95% market share. They did a lot of things different when they had less than 50%. Don't they screw up people again and again with their security and who has changed to a different OS, being it Linux or Apple! 1%? May be less on the desktop. It seem that on the server side where you have more computer savvy folks, it's different. Tom On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 15:28, Austin wrote: > On 10/03/2003 09:58:35 PM, Thomas Spuhler wrote: > > How much does MS charge for their label on the > > piece of software. > > Oh, and by the way... Microsoft can call whatever they want a release > candidate or a final release or a painted red wagon. How would we actually > know what it is? They can call it whatever they want. We don't see the > source, or the beta-testing process, or anything. Deadlines are deadlines, > and they have proven time and time again that their "final releases" are far > poorer than release-candidate quality. > > Austin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
Could the updated OOo 1.1.0 be relaesed as an update? I am sure they fixed a number of things between RC 4 and the 1.1.0 best regards keld On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 11:26:24AM -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote: > I would fully support to rename the packages if still possible. Just get > the RC out of the package names (rpm names). It is still named RC4 in > cooker > Tom > > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 21:25, Rob wrote: > > On Saturday 04 October 2003 00:06, Han Boetes wrote: > > > > I don't know which RC ended up in 9.2, but RC5 and 1.1 are > > > > identical. Might as well just rename the package, if it's > > > > RC5. > > > Allas. CD's are read-only. > > > > The CD's have already gone to duplication? Cool! Show me the > > torrents ;) > > > > Rob >
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
I would fully support to rename the packages if still possible. Just get the RC out of the package names (rpm names). It is still named RC4 in cooker Tom On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 21:25, Rob wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2003 00:06, Han Boetes wrote: > > > I don't know which RC ended up in 9.2, but RC5 and 1.1 are > > > identical. Might as well just rename the package, if it's > > > RC5. > > Allas. CD's are read-only. > > The CD's have already gone to duplication? Cool! Show me the > torrents ;) > > Rob signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
On Saturday 04 October 2003 00:06, Han Boetes wrote: > > I don't know which RC ended up in 9.2, but RC5 and 1.1 are > > identical. Might as well just rename the package, if it's > > RC5. > Allas. CD's are read-only. The CD's have already gone to duplication? Cool! Show me the torrents ;) Rob
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 03 October 2003 21:16, Thomas Spuhler wrote: > > I am a marketing person of a mid-size corporation and strongly > > supporting Linux at work. Releasing a distro with OpenOffice RC > > would not be a wise move from a marketing point. > > I don't know which RC ended up in 9.2, but RC5 and 1.1 are identical. > Might as well just rename the package, if it's RC5. Allas. CD's are read-only. # Han -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
On Friday 03 October 2003 21:16, Thomas Spuhler wrote: > I am a marketing person of a mid-size corporation and strongly > supporting Linux at work. Releasing a distro with OpenOffice > RC would not be a wise move from a marketing point. I don't know which RC ended up in 9.2, but RC5 and 1.1 are identical. Might as well just rename the package, if it's RC5. Rob
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
On 10/03/2003 09:58:35 PM, Thomas Spuhler wrote: How much does MS charge for their label on the piece of software. Oh, and by the way... Microsoft can call whatever they want a release candidate or a final release or a painted red wagon. How would we actually know what it is? They can call it whatever they want. We don't see the source, or the beta-testing process, or anything. Deadlines are deadlines, and they have proven time and time again that their "final releases" are far poorer than release-candidate quality. Austin
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
On 10/03/2003 09:58:35 PM, Thomas Spuhler wrote: Pls read again. I didn't say any bugs have been fixed. I said there are always bugs regardless how long you test. What I said is that when bugs are found and one uses a RC it will be obvious why if a RC is installed. Names make a difference. How much does MS charge for their label on the piece of software. I think YOU missed the point. Nowhere does it say RC-anything on the version on OpenOffice that will ship with 9.2... not the splash screen, and not the ABOUT dialog. I doubt if there are any significant bugfixes between the shipped version and the final anyway, and if there are (for example) serious security problems, they will be provided as updates. Who exactly will notice/care that it's an RC other than an RPM hacker? The distro release has to be made on time. There is no waiting for new packages. If one waits of openoffice, why not kde, then why not mplayer 1.0, then why not mozilla 2.0? The only decision to be made was to ship old openoffice 1.0, or new 1.1. The 1.1 RC's were very stable as many cooker people attested, and the prospect of new features FAR outweighed any potential RC-quality problems. Now the REAL question is this: Why doesn't Mandrake know what an RC is? OpenOffice.org releases actual release candidates... i.e. they are good enough to be releases. Mandrake Linux release candidates are in fact beta verisons. But that's a whole other discussion isn't it? Austin -- Austin Acton Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/03/2003 09:16:01 PM, Thomas Spuhler wrote: > > There are always bugs in a program, regardless how long you test it. > > If it's a RC then that will be the first thing everybody notices and > > will relate it to a second class distro. If a few more days are > > needed to incorporate the released version, then please consider to > > do so. > > Perhaps you'd care to enlighten us on the myriads of bugs that have > been fixed between the last release candidate and the final verision > of openoffice? Looks like someone misunderstands the concept of release candidates. # Han -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice has been released
On 10/03/2003 09:16:01 PM, Thomas Spuhler wrote: There are always bugs in a program, regardless how long you test it. If it's a RC then that will be the first thing everybody notices and will relate it to a second class distro. If a few more days are needed to incorporate the released version, then please consider to do so. Perhaps you'd care to enlighten us on the myriads of bugs that have been fixed between the last release candidate and the final verision of openoffice? Austin -- Austin Acton Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant, Ph.D. Candidate Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeLinux Volunteer Developer, homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice 1.1rc5
El mar, 23-09-2003 a las 14:19, Gwenole Beauchesne escribió: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Emmanuel wrote: > Any chance of getting a quick compilation and making it into 9.2??? I > believe rc5 will be renamed 1.1 once it's propagated onto the mirrors > (based on the fact that SO7 is already out). 1.1rc5 source tarball is broken and cvs update -d from 1.1rc4 shows changes nearing zero (4 sources patches). Seems to be a new version of sources on mirror (ftp.club-internet.fr). Date stamp is 23 Sep. -- M. Ignacio Monge García <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice 1.1rc5
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Emmanuel wrote: > Any chance of getting a quick compilation and making it into 9.2??? I > believe rc5 will be renamed 1.1 once it's propagated onto the mirrors > (based on the fact that SO7 is already out). 1.1rc5 source tarball is broken and cvs update -d from 1.1rc4 shows changes nearing zero (4 sources patches).
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice 1.1rc1 & Opengroupware
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 23:12, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Ainsi parlait Cosmic Flo : > > Hello, > > > > I just saw in rpmfind.net that there isn't a Mdk RPM for > > OpenGroupware ( http://www.opengroupware.org/ ). > > And since when is rpmfind an official mdk package list reference ? Well, you can find cooker rpm on them, so, this is not a official reference, but it is as close as possible. -- Michaël Scherer
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice 1.1rc1 & Opengroupware
Ainsi parlait Cosmic Flo : > Hello, > > I just saw in rpmfind.net that there isn't a Mdk RPM for OpenGroupware ( > http://www.opengroupware.org/ ). And since when is rpmfind an official mdk package list reference ? -- When you finally buy enough memory, you will not have enough disk space. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n°3
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice 1.1rc1 & Opengroupware
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cosmic Flo wrote: > Hello, > > I just saw in rpmfind.net that there isn't a Mdk RPM for OpenGroupware ( > http://www.opengroupware.org/ ). > Is it planned ? > I would like to see one, but may not have the time. > When OpenOffice 1.1x will be packaged for Mdk ? > Yes. For 9.2? Who knows (besides Gwenole). I think there most likely will be a 1.1, since Gwenole didn't want to make 1.0.x build on cooker for no reason. > And about OpenOffice + Opengroupware integration in Mdk ? > It could be a great feature for desktop users ! OpenGroupware currently has not integration with OpenOffice.org anyway. But you can use evolution or kmail etc with OpenGroupware, and when there is a package for Mozilla Calendar, that too. BTW, package submission for OpenGroupware is welcome! But a more important task is finishing openldap/cyrus-imapd/postfix stuff, and possibly kolab (hacked to use libconf instead maybe, instead of overwriting config files). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/HuuxrJK6UGDSBKcRAn3RAJ41SpHidBV5KZKLFWsyICUezY8uOACgzTJq c6hcY0l9pSvFFlPv8uBdiFA= =c6hd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. **
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice 1.1 beta 2
Oops - thought i'd sent this to Gwenole in private.. sorry. On Tuesday 08 July 2003 01:11 am, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: > Hi Gwenole, > > Any chance of seeing OpenOffice 1.1 beta 2 for cooker any time soon? > I realize you're probably swamped with other things, but if it looks like > 1.1 might be released close to Mandrake 9.2, it might be fun to pound on it > and make sure it works. :-) > > Thanks, > > Vinny
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice won't work
On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Johnathon B. Allread - East Coast Computers wrote: > This is my first post to cooker. I just loaded 9.1 final and installed > almost everything except the server packages. When I logged into KDE, I > tried to bring up OpenOffice (OO) and the OO screen came up and stayed > in the middle of my desktop. It never finished loading. I used 'top' > to kill the processes. I deleted the .ooffice directory and tried it > again and no go. I switched to icewm and had the same results. I > removed the rpms and reinstalled using Rpmdrake. Same thing. Did this user account run OO.o or StarOffice before? Yuo may want to try renaming/moving ~/.sversionrc also. If that does not help, at least post the output of: $locale You could also try running OO.o manually: $ /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice > The only > thing I noticed is that when I am in KDE and run 'top', it says there > are 3 users logged on. I did a 'who' and it listed: > > jallread :0 Mar 30 02:11 > jallread pts/0Mar 30 02:12 > jallread pts/1Mar 30 03:06 > You probably had more/different terminal emulators running. > I did the same in Icewm and got: > > jallread :0 Mar 30 02:11 > > > I really don't think this has anything to do with OO, but I thought it > was strange. Any ideas? > > > -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice won't work
Don't know why, but sometimes the .openoffice directory and its contents is created with errors. In those cases the only why to have it runing has been to me copy a whole .openoffice directory to my home from an account where it is runing; after that OpenOffice runs fine. A .openoffice from a previous 1.0.1 release also works. Hope this help to solve the problem now, but we had to investigate the causes of it. Have you tried with a new account (I suppose you used your old home partition with users created previously). Regards El Domingo, 30 de Marzo de 2003 10:08, Johnathon B. Allread - East Coast Computers escribió: > This is my first post to cooker. I just loaded 9.1 final and installed > almost everything except the server packages. When I logged into KDE, I > tried to bring up OpenOffice (OO) and the OO screen came up and stayed > in the middle of my desktop. It never finished loading. I used 'top' > to kill the processes. I deleted the .ooffice directory and tried it > again and no go. I switched to icewm and had the same results. I > removed the rpms and reinstalled using Rpmdrake. Same thing. The only > thing I noticed is that when I am in KDE and run 'top', it says there > are 3 users logged on. I did a 'who' and it listed: > > jallread :0 Mar 30 02:11 > jallread pts/0Mar 30 02:12 > jallread pts/1Mar 30 03:06 > > I did the same in Icewm and got: > > jallread :0 Mar 30 02:11 > > > I really don't think this has anything to do with OO, but I thought it > was strange. Any ideas? > > regards, -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia, España (Spain)
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice needs a legal template/autopilot
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 04:02 am, Brent Hasty wrote: > for us users out hear trying to flee from corel wordperfect since thier > office 2000 for linux / microshaft biout incident, we could really use in > OpenOffice needs a legal template/autopilot. And support for opening *.wpd > files. Too late for Mandrake 9.1 but rumour has it that a FOSS WordPerfect import/exporter is in the works for OOo `soon'. And an Aquafied version of OOo for OS X to be released Safari-surprise style. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice needs a legal template/autopilot
On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 12:02, Brent Hasty wrote: > for us users out hear trying to flee from corel wordperfect since thier office > 2000 for linux / microshaft biout incident, we could really use in OpenOffice > needs a legal template/autopilot. And support for opening *.wpd files. http://libwpd.sourceforge.net/ Never used it, but it seems in active development. /curtis
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice...
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:38:03 +0100 Simone Riccio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anybody got a clue about why latest update via urpmi decided to > uninstall OpenOffice If you are using current urpmi, it tells you why. Charles -- To be great is to be misunderstood. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21pre4-10mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
> francesco.melo wrote: > > > this works for me now > > try > > maybe can help you > > regards francesco > > That worked. Perhaps FONT_SCALING needs to be on as well. In any case, I > have found out a little bit more on this topic. > > This is documented on the Xft hack page posted earlier, but he describes > how to do it through the UI. He says you can use any other scalable font > (Verdana, Arial, Helvetica) and it will replace the default font which > is Andale Sans UI. The problem is that if the default UI font is > monochrome then it will not display at all. Anyway, I like this > ft-smooth patch and think it should be included as a Patch in the > freetype2 RPM. > I also have the same problem, all font in openoffice disappeared. But I miss the old post, and can't find the archive of cooker mailing list. Can you tell me what patch/fix should I apply?
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
On Friday 13 December 2002 22:50, David Walluck wrote: > This is documented on the Xft hack page posted earlier, but he describes > how to do it through the UI. He says you can use any other scalable font > (Verdana, Arial, Helvetica) and it will replace the default font which > is Andale Sans UI. The problem is that if the default UI font is > monochrome then it will not display at all. Anyway, I like this > ft-smooth patch and think it should be included as a Patch in the > freetype2 RPM. I also tried the solution from ft-smooth's README, it works, but when I select page zoom too small, say 50%, all fonts <12pt disappear again. Print preview is empty too. It seems that OO switches antialiasing off for small fonts and 'options/view/antialiasing-from N pixels' setting doesn't help. I ended up compiling libfreetype-2.0.9 with hinting and LD_PRELOAD it in the 'ooffice' script. Version 2.0.9 is the best for OO 1.0.1. Ural.
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
francesco.melo wrote: this works for me now try maybe can help you regards francesco That worked. Perhaps FONT_SCALING needs to be on as well. In any case, I have found out a little bit more on this topic. This is documented on the Xft hack page posted earlier, but he describes how to do it through the UI. He says you can use any other scalable font (Verdana, Arial, Helvetica) and it will replace the default font which is Andale Sans UI. The problem is that if the default UI font is monochrome then it will not display at all. Anyway, I like this ft-smooth patch and think it should be included as a Patch in the freetype2 RPM. Thanks. -- Sincerely, David Walluck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> msg83797/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
David Walluck wrote: francesco.melo wrote: Pascal Terjan wrote: nDiScReEt wrote: Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would that be achieved if nothing can be read? vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf replace AUTO by the name of the font thanks :) now it works ! . Not for me. I still can't see any of the menu/dialog fonts, no matter what name I put there. ### Define font to use for user interface (default: AUTO). # If set to "AUTO", ooffice will choose the UI font according to the # current UI language, the first time you start in that # language. Otherwise, this shall match the actual font name. UI_FONT="helvetica" ### Define font scaling (default: not set). # If set to "AUTO", font scaling is set based on the current display # resolution of first screen. Otherwise, this shall be a valid number. FONT_SCALING="AUTO" ### Define paper size for documents without printer configured (default: AUTO). # If set to "AUTO", paper size for new documents is set based on the # current locale. Otherwise, this shall match a valid paper size. PAPER_SIZE="AUTO" # # NOTE: The $HOME/.openoffice/user/psprint/psprint.conf file is # automatically regenerated whenever you start ooffice with a valid # value for PAPER_SIZE, and system psprint.conf is actually # newer. Therefore, undefine this variable if you have genuine changes # done in the user psprint.conf. # # Possible values: A0, A1, A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, B4, B5, B6, Legal, # Letter, Executive, Statement, Tabloid, Ledger, AnsiC, AnsiD, ARCHA, # ARCHB, ARCHC, ARCHD, ARCHE, EnvMonarch, EnvC4, EnvC5, EnvC6, Env10, # EnvC65, Folio. this works for me now try maybe can help you regards francesco
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
francesco.melo wrote: Pascal Terjan wrote: nDiScReEt wrote: Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would that be achieved if nothing can be read? vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf replace AUTO by the name of the font thanks :) now it works ! . Not for me. I still can't see any of the menu/dialog fonts, no matter what name I put there. -- Sincerely, David Walluck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> msg83794/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Fonts, GUI design and visualy impaired Was: Re: [Cooker] [openoffice]GUI fonts invisibles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 francesco.melo wrote: Pascal Terjan wrote: nDiScReEt wrote: Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would that be achieved if nothing can be read? vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf replace AUTO by the name of the font thanks :) now it works ! Having: UI_FONT="helvetica" and FONT_SCALING="AUTO" Just gives a more soft and clean look. Im a very low sighted person with 1/10 both eyes (normal sight field though). That's why I pay so much attention to font and colour choices for any GUIs. Hav to do balanced choices between font size and usability. Large fonts = easy read = much less information per screen = bloated UI small fonts = more workspace per screen = well balanced UI = eye stress I just keep using clear design san serif fonts like "clean, helvetica..." as 12pt (72 DPI screen) I read that on a 21" screen at a distance of 5" (4" from a 17" screen). This means 1024x768 for the max everyday resolution. Hope this might help Mandrake consider visualy impaired persons in teir own developments and built'in ready to use config designs. Regards, - -- Léa Gris () Campagne du ruban texte brut contre les courriels en HTML, /\ contre les pièces jointes Microsoft. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE9+d5piNTO/wgn58kRAr+LAKC8eNkTtJhg55bsmXKoysYERTXIbgCbBGiD 3myBxVIrgHLHWaZSpP8tY/8= =bXYp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
Pascal Terjan wrote: nDiScReEt wrote: Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would that be achieved if nothing can be read? vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf replace AUTO by the name of the font thanks :) now it works !
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
Pascal Terjan wrote: nDiScReEt wrote: Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would that be achieved if nothing can be read? vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf replace AUTO by the name of the font And then run, for instance, oowriter (I translate from the french version I have so the labels may be different) Menu Tools/Options/OpenOffice.org/Font substitution Unselect it Got much more beautiful :-)
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
nDiScReEt wrote: Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would that be achieved if nothing can be read? vim /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf replace AUTO by the name of the font
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:58, nDiScReEt wrote: > Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would that be > achieved if nothing can be read? You gots to have skills to run cooker. Use the force. ;-) Austin -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com) homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 12 December 2002 9:43 am, Austin Acton wrote: > Change your UI font to Lucida. It works. > Austin > > On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 04:49, Lea Gris wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > OpenOffice GUI fonts are invisible (printed same color as background or > > not printed at all). > > > > Documents fonts are all ok. > > > > I searched cooker archive and found it was already reported but didn't > > find much more about it. > > > > Anyone has a fix yet for this ? > > Is it realy a bug or me mangling some config ? > > Someone's already cooking a fix ? > > > > regards, Change the font for OOo or for the system? If it is for OOo, how would that be achieved if nothing can be read? - Altoine B Maximum Time Unlimited Chicago Based and Operated http://pgp.mit.edu - I should have been a country-western singer. After all, I'm older than most western countries. -- George Burns - 2.4.20-1mdkcustom Mandrake Linux release 9.1 (Cooker) for i586 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9+OpXxjybQmhmUgYRAm7mAJ9bkQ6pBGKQ7e7J2gCaLzIiOK06xgCfasag Krv1uU/oNrM7+UmPKBUlMEo= =QWUI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Walluck wrote: > Giuseppe Ghibr wrote: > >> The problem is caused by newer freetype2 2.1.3. I've a patch, so you have >> to wait next Gwenole OOo rebuilding. Yes, I would be prepared to build an host OO.o for cooker at http://ranger.dnsalias.com if someone can let me at the patch. I have build OO.o RPMs before ... > Is it possible to get this patch in the meantime? Even if it is not > ready for public consumption, you may email it or provide me a URL > directly. In a week I leave University for the holidays. If an OO.org > update does not happen within the next week, then I am stuck for about 5 > or 6 weeks with no office suite. > > On an only slightly related note, one other thing I have been hoping for > is a KDE with the slow debug feature turned off. With debug turned on > the speed is too slow, even on my 1 GHz machine. I guess someone would > need to volunteer to provide these. I am not expecting Mandrake to turn > debug off until the 3.1 release, or possibly Mandrake plans on leaving > it on in Cooker always, which I wouldn't be too happy about. > I think the only way you're going to get KDE without debugging (possibly) would be Mandrake 9.0 with KDE3.1 final, which wil pobably be after you're back ... unless someone volunteers to build ... and anyone finding bugs is preparted to revert to provide debugging ... Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE9+NfQrJK6UGDSBKcRAgZXAJ9gx4wMLZLU/VZCpQT+HqSzygDVWgCdG+9t 4ESE4kjX3deWK/xoh3xql24= =ho5N -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
Giuseppe Ghibr wrote: The problem is caused by newer freetype2 2.1.3. I've a patch, so you have to wait next Gwenole OOo rebuilding. Bue. Giuseppe. Is it possible to get this patch in the meantime? Even if it is not ready for public consumption, you may email it or provide me a URL directly. In a week I leave University for the holidays. If an OO.org update does not happen within the next week, then I am stuck for about 5 or 6 weeks with no office suite. On an only slightly related note, one other thing I have been hoping for is a KDE with the slow debug feature turned off. With debug turned on the speed is too slow, even on my 1 GHz machine. I guess someone would need to volunteer to provide these. I am not expecting Mandrake to turn debug off until the 3.1 release, or possibly Mandrake plans on leaving it on in Cooker always, which I wouldn't be too happy about. -- Sincerely, David Walluck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> msg83705/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
Change your UI font to Lucida. It works. Austin On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 04:49, Lea Gris wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > OpenOffice GUI fonts are invisible (printed same color as background or > not printed at all). > > Documents fonts are all ok. > > I searched cooker archive and found it was already reported but didn't > find much more about it. > > Anyone has a fix yet for this ? > Is it realy a bug or me mangling some config ? > Someone's already cooking a fix ? > > regards, > > - -- > ~ Léa Gris - http://www.noiraude.net/ > () Campagne du ruban texte brut contre les courriels en HTML, > /\ contre les pièces jointes Microsoft. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQE9+FvDiNTO/wgn58kRApcgAKDd/bLNUDuL1RYOQQo8URvRBnEEZgCeJrki > kGvG+UxCVaMaQl0Wt9JGKi4= > =7wpN > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching Assistant Department of Chemistry, York University, Toronto MandrakeClub Volunteer (www.mandrakeclub.com) homepage: www.groundstate.ca
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
francesco.melo wrote: Pascal Terjan wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: It's probaby time to make a bugzilla entry for this, so that those who actually have working UI can document how others can do it ... Buchan (still running 643C so he can see the menus ...) It is working on my desktop computer but not on my brother's one neither on my laptop. The 3 machines are up to date cooker. I tryied over ssh, the 3 OOo work fine when displayed on my desktop computer, so I guess that's something in the X configuration. Since I moved last week th computer is not online currently but I can check it tonight. i have two version of oo in mty system. 1) 101 from openoffice .org 2) rpm from mandrake so the invisible font is from mandrake rpm version . but: open mdk verion ...invisible open oo version ...invisible open again oo version ... works so the first time after a mdk start also ooversion didn't work.. i have the lastest cooker .. i am not able to know when exctly it stopped to work francesco The problem is caused by newer freetype2 2.1.3. I've a patch, so you have to wait next Gwenole OOo rebuilding. Bue. Giuseppe.
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
Pascal Terjan wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: It's probaby time to make a bugzilla entry for this, so that those who actually have working UI can document how others can do it ... Buchan (still running 643C so he can see the menus ...) It is working on my desktop computer but not on my brother's one neither on my laptop. The 3 machines are up to date cooker. I tryied over ssh, the 3 OOo work fine when displayed on my desktop computer, so I guess that's something in the X configuration. Since I moved last week th computer is not online currently but I can check it tonight. i have two version of oo in mty system. 1) 101 from openoffice .org 2) rpm from mandrake so the invisible font is from mandrake rpm version . but: open mdk verion ...invisible open oo version ...invisible open again oo version ... works so the first time after a mdk start also ooversion didn't work.. i have the lastest cooker .. i am not able to know when exctly it stopped to work francesco
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
Buchan Milne wrote: It's probaby time to make a bugzilla entry for this, so that those who actually have working UI can document how others can do it ... Buchan (still running 643C so he can see the menus ...) It is working on my desktop computer but not on my brother's one neither on my laptop. The 3 machines are up to date cooker. I tryied over ssh, the 3 OOo work fine when displayed on my desktop computer, so I guess that's something in the X configuration. Since I moved last week th computer is not online currently but I can check it tonight.
Re: [Cooker] [openoffice] GUI fonts invisibles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lea Gris wrote: > OpenOffice GUI fonts are invisible (printed same color as background or > not printed at all). > > Documents fonts are all ok. > > I searched cooker archive and found it was already reported but didn't > find much more about it. > > Anyone has a fix yet for this ? > Is it realy a bug or me mangling some config ? Probably lack of support for Xft2/fontconfig in OO.o > Someone's already cooking a fix ? Gwenole? It's probaby time to make a bugzilla entry for this, so that those who actually have working UI can document how others can do it ... Buchan (still running 643C so he can see the menus ...) - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE9+GjnrJK6UGDSBKcRAtNaAJ4odL/95k7dkvJL74lhg2CROClWvACeK7zi vKubcX/7gzH8dZIV4QeqlGI= =u13J -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice & Mdk9.0
that's all right now ! thx Since a long time I'm using Mdk at hom and office, using english as local languages, but for some application (OOo for example) I prefer to use a french one, When you select OOo at install time + OpenOffice.org-l10n-fr, the dependency or install script dont warn you about the OpenOffice.org-l10n-en. Perhaps could it be possible to make such a light modification in the future. Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, denis wrote: > > >>- I install without trouble starOffice, which work fine >>- I install OpenOffice from OpenOffice.org1.0.1.tar.gz without pb >>- I install Openoffice (using rpms) it doesn't work ! > > > This is usually a bad idea to follow this pattern, especially if your are > installing identical versions of OOo, install database gets corrupt and/or > OOo thinks it's already installed. > > >> first it remove my .bashrc file whn I try to launch openoffice, then >>crash with the following msg > > > Don't remove ~/.bashrc which is meant for bash, not OOo. OOo related files > are ~/.sversionrc, ~/.user60.rdb. > > >>An error occurred while copying the file mytexts.bau to >>/home/denis/.openoffice/user/autotext >>an error occurred while copying a file >>ExitCode: 0 > > > Your are trying to install OOo with some other locale setting (env | grep > LC_) than what is currently installed, here that fallbacked to English > whereas you haven't installed -l10n-en subpackage. > > Bye, > Gwenole. > > >
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice & Mdk9.0
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, denis wrote: > - I install without trouble starOffice, which work fine > - I install OpenOffice from OpenOffice.org1.0.1.tar.gz without pb > - I install Openoffice (using rpms) it doesn't work ! This is usually a bad idea to follow this pattern, especially if your are installing identical versions of OOo, install database gets corrupt and/or OOo thinks it's already installed. > first it remove my .bashrc file whn I try to launch openoffice, then > crash with the following msg Don't remove ~/.bashrc which is meant for bash, not OOo. OOo related files are ~/.sversionrc, ~/.user60.rdb. > An error occurred while copying the file mytexts.bau to > /home/denis/.openoffice/user/autotext > an error occurred while copying a file > ExitCode: 0 Your are trying to install OOo with some other locale setting (env | grep LC_) than what is currently installed, here that fallbacked to English whereas you haven't installed -l10n-en subpackage. Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice install problems after RC2 upgrade
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Dan Clayton wrote: > I had open office on my system before and it worked fine. I tried to > install the version from RC2 and it couldn't copy many of the files into > /usr/lib/openoffice. I tried as root, my regular user and my dummy user > and they all failed to copy needed files into /usr/lib/openoffice/share. Which files and where exactly? > My old install of openoffice is still working ok and it is in my home > directory as a user install. Please define "old install of openoffice" (e.g. version-release). I am afraid I am still not good at mind reading. There are problems when updating from OOo from 8.2 to the one from 9.0 with localized contents. Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] openoffice templates
Okay, cool. Sorry I didn't realize you had added some unofficial tamplates. My mistake. Austin On Tue, 2002-09-17 at 03:45, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > On 16 Sep 2002, Austin Acton wrote: > > > They are not available in the file->new menu. (but should be) > > They are available ONLY by going to file->new->open and then looking in > > /usr/lib/openoffice/share/templates/english > > Note, I first considered as templates the File->New (Business Cards, > Labels) items. But they aren't. Let me rephrase it: all official OOo > templates are available in File->Autopilot. Otherwise, the remaining ones > OOo finds are in File->New->Templates and Documents dialog box. If they > are not present, well that's because they don't exist... > > However, the *extra* templates I added, which are not available in the > official OOo tarball, don't show up. That may be fixed in -10mdk which > might or might not be on MDK 9.0 CD release. > > BTW, it's non sense for the user to get things in the OOo installation > directory himself. OOo manages that already (Autopilot menu, or Templates > menu if there are templates...). > > Bye, > Gwenole. >
Re: [Cooker] openoffice templates
On 16 Sep 2002, Austin Acton wrote: > They are not available in the file->new menu. (but should be) > They are available ONLY by going to file->new->open and then looking in > /usr/lib/openoffice/share/templates/english Note, I first considered as templates the File->New (Business Cards, Labels) items. But they aren't. Let me rephrase it: all official OOo templates are available in File->Autopilot. Otherwise, the remaining ones OOo finds are in File->New->Templates and Documents dialog box. If they are not present, well that's because they don't exist... However, the *extra* templates I added, which are not available in the official OOo tarball, don't show up. That may be fixed in -10mdk which might or might not be on MDK 9.0 CD release. BTW, it's non sense for the user to get things in the OOo installation directory himself. OOo manages that already (Autopilot menu, or Templates menu if there are templates...). Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice affected by SetiAtHome
On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, Leon Brooks wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:40, Crispin Boylan wrote: > > This may or may not be fixable, but it seems that OpenOffice.org > > drastically slows down responsiveness when setiathome is running in the > > background, sure its easy enough to turn off but no other apps are > > affected! Can this be fixed? > > Yah, find us some aliens, make SAH either redundant or so important that it > gets switched to SetiAtWellArmouredMilitaryBase. Hurr, hurrr, hurrr :-D Guy Bormann
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice affected by SetiAtHome
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:40, Crispin Boylan wrote: > This may or may not be fixable, but it seems that OpenOffice.org > drastically slows down responsiveness when setiathome is running in the > background, sure its easy enough to turn off but no other apps are > affected! Can this be fixed? Yah, find us some aliens, make SAH either redundant or so important that it gets switched to SetiAtWellArmouredMilitaryBase. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice affected by SetiAtHome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Hi > > This may or may not be fixable, but it seems that OpenOffice.org > drastically slows down responsiveness when setiathome is running in the > background, sure its easy enough to turn off but no other apps are > affected! Can this be fixed? > > Cheers > cris I have this exact problem with 8.2 and the associated OOo from 8.2 Mark. - -- Mark Watts QinetiQ TIM St Andrews Road Malvern Work: 01684 897456 Mobile: 07976 971090 Pager: 07659 152298 GPG Public Key available on request. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9gK6MBn4EFUVUIO0RAnP8AKDWi5RMBMAVnv5nhNzrvSjni9rRRwCglRHB fmvR23M8viTyWycdvEtXTaY= =o2gA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice and MSEC 4
Hi, >> The problem was even worse than that. :-/ >> > Thanks for reply ! So what is really the problem ? what do you mean by > "even worse" ? "launch for users which are not in the group allowed to see config files" is not enough. Actually, OOo needs access to /proc//cmdline, which is not available to users in msec 4 mode. Likewise, OOo (re)implementation of realpath() [osl_getFullPath] behaved strangely, if not working at all when /, /usr, /usr/lib et al. are not readable by users. Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice and MSEC 4
Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: >On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Henri wrote: > > > >>There is a VERY annoying bug with msec at level for : ooffice won't >>launch for users which are not in the group allowed to see config files, >>as selected during installation. >> >> > >The problem was even worse than that. :-/ > > Thanks for reply ! So what is really the problem ? what do you mean by "even worse" ? > > >>Please correct this, I don't want to make the config of my machine >>readable to every one just to be able to use OpenOffice ! >> >> > >Chances are that will be fixed in OOo 1.0.1-9mdk if it arrives in time. >Count at least 24 hours from now for compiling/testing. > > > >>The problem is the same with StarOffice 6... >> >> Dearest Open Source :-)... >I am sorry but I can't do anything with that. > >Bye, >Gwenole. > > > > >
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice and MSEC 4
On Sat, 7 Sep 2002, Henri wrote: > There is a VERY annoying bug with msec at level for : ooffice won't > launch for users which are not in the group allowed to see config files, > as selected during installation. The problem was even worse than that. :-/ > Please correct this, I don't want to make the config of my machine > readable to every one just to be able to use OpenOffice ! Chances are that will be fixed in OOo 1.0.1-9mdk if it arrives in time. Count at least 24 hours from now for compiling/testing. > The problem is the same with StarOffice 6... I am sorry but I can't do anything with that. Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice dialog fonts fix...
On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, Todd Franklin wrote: > Just forwarding a quick font fix for the Open Office dialogs that make > it a bit more pleasing to the eye. This is already carried out in 1.0.1 mdk releases.
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice-ja shows wrong characters.
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, utuhiro wrote: > See this page: > http://www.geocities.jp/knee2525/images/0903mdk.html > > I can't read any characters. You are missing some fonts package. I haven't determined yet which ones exactly. But fore sure, there were nice japanese glyphs last I tried it. Furthermore I also got japanese glyphs in Russian, which wasn't really right. :) I'd guess fonts-ttf-japanese but you may need other fonts package. Bye, Gwenole
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice file conflict
Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: >On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Eugenio Diaz wrote: > >>I had already updated the core packages before doing this. Also note >>that the conflict is between *attempted installs* of l10n-en and l10n-es. >> >No, or you haven't updated cleanly. Updating the core packages will end up >to *not* have links in /usr/lib/openoffice/help/ directory. There is no >conflict between any -l10n- package. > Yeah, for some reason "/usr/lib/openoffice/help/es/err.html" was owned by both l10-en and l10-es, and that is why is was giving the conflict. I completely removed all OO packages, and had to manually remove /usr/lib/openoffice; I then reinstalled all the packages again and everything is fine. Thanks. -- Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE Linux Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice file conflict
On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Eugenio Diaz wrote: > I had already updated the core packages before doing this. Also note > that the conflict is between *attempted installs* of l10n-en and l10n-es. No, or you haven't updated cleanly. Updating the core packages will end up to *not* have links in /usr/lib/openoffice/help/ directory. There is no conflict between any -l10n- package.
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice file conflict
Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Eugenio Diaz wrote:
>
>>[root@fulgore:/home/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS]#
>>rpm -Fvh OpenOffice.org-l10n-*
>>Preparing...###
>>[100%]
>>file /usr/lib/openoffice/help/es/err.html conflicts between attempted
>>installs of OpenOffice.org-l10n-es-1.0.1-4mdk and
>>OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.0.1-4mdk
>>
>
>Updates are flawed. Two solutions:
>
>1) Remove the /usr/lib/openoffice/help/es symlink prior to *updating* to
>OpenOffice.org-l10n-es.
>
>2) Make sure you update the core OOo, that is
>OpenOffice.org-{,libs,l10n-en}. Then, you can safely *install* -l10n-es.
>
I had already updated the core packages before doing this. Also note
that the conflict is between *attempted installs* of l10n-en and l10n-es.
What I did was to first update l10n-en and then update l10n-es with
"--replacefiles".
--
Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE
Linux Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice file conflict
On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Eugenio Diaz wrote:
> [root@fulgore:/home/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS]#
> rpm -Fvh OpenOffice.org-l10n-*
> Preparing...###
> [100%]
> file /usr/lib/openoffice/help/es/err.html conflicts between attempted
> installs of OpenOffice.org-l10n-es-1.0.1-4mdk and
> OpenOffice.org-l10n-en-1.0.1-4mdk
Updates are flawed. Two solutions:
1) Remove the /usr/lib/openoffice/help/es symlink prior to *updating* to
OpenOffice.org-l10n-es.
2) Make sure you update the core OOo, that is
OpenOffice.org-{,libs,l10n-en}. Then, you can safely *install* -l10n-es.
Bye,
Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] openoffice can't run with msec level 4?
Here is the result of rpm -qi OpenOffice.org [root@desktop root]# rpm -qi OpenOffice.org Name: OpenOffice.org Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 5mdk Build Date: Wed 29 May 2002 05:57:52 PM GST Install date: Wed 05 Jun 2002 03:07:21 PM GST Build Host: no.mandrakesoft.com Group : OfficeSource RPM: OpenOffice.org-1.0-5mdk.src.rpm Size: 212543983License: LGPL Packager: Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.openoffice.org/ Summary : Open source office suite Description : OpenOffice.org is an Open Source, community-developed, multi-platform office productivity suite. It includes the key desktop applications, such as a word processor, spreadsheet, presentation manager, forumula editing and drawing program, with a user interface and feature set similar to other office suites. Sophisticated and flexible, OpenOffice.org also works transparently with a variety of file formats, including Microsoft Office. Languages available in this package include: Enligh, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, Sweddish, Finnish, Polish, Russian. Usage: Simply type "ooffice" to run OpenOffice.org or select the requested component (Writer, Calc, Draw, Impress, etc.) from your desktop menu. The ooffice wrapper script will install a few files in the user's home, if necessary. Use "printerdrake" to configure your printer. You may also want to install the "myspell-*" package corresponding to your language for spell-checking capabilities. You mean I sure update openoffice? \\\|/// \- - -// ( @ @ ) ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo Visit my homepage at http://www.carfield.com.hk Programming discussion groups Software design: news://news.carfield.com.hk/programming.design Design Pattern: news://news.carfield.com.hk/programming.design.pattern java: news://news.carfield.com.hk/programming.java linux: news://news.carfield.com.hk/programming.linux On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > Hi, > > > There is no rpm of OO 1.0-5mdk for mandrake 8.2 that I know of. > > There is no -5mdk for MDK 8.2. However, there is some -5.1mdk branched > off that release but rebuilt for MDK 8.2. That can be found in 8.2 > updates or any 8.2/unsupported mirror. > > Bye, > Gwenole > >
Re: [Cooker] openoffice can't run with msec level 4?
Hi, > There is no rpm of OO 1.0-5mdk for mandrake 8.2 that I know of. There is no -5mdk for MDK 8.2. However, there is some -5.1mdk branched off that release but rebuilt for MDK 8.2. That can be found in 8.2 updates or any 8.2/unsupported mirror. Bye, Gwenole
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice smart quotes
--- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 31 May 2002 14:15, David Walser wrote: > > If anybody has any idea about this, I'd greatly > appreciate it. > > > > On two of the three machines I installed it on, > quotes show up as ? > > marks when you're typing (still show up correctly > in print preview and > > in print). > > I had this on 8.2 until I turned off anti-aliasing > of fonts in KDE > Control Centre. Hmm, I tried that and it didn't work :o( Thanks though. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice smart quotes
On Friday 31 May 2002 14:15, David Walser wrote: > If anybody has any idea about this, I'd greatly appreciate it. > > On two of the three machines I installed it on, quotes show up as ? > marks when you're typing (still show up correctly in print preview and > in print). I had this on 8.2 until I turned off anti-aliasing of fonts in KDE Control Centre. -- Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Bluebird) for i586 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ 511MB Kernel: 2.4.18-6mdk-pnr-win4lin KDE: 2.2.2 Qt: 2.3.1 up 15 hours 40 minutes. ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~
Re: [Cooker] openoffice segfaults
On Tuesday 02 Apr 2002 12:13, RA wrote: > On Montag, 1. April 2002 14:21:14, Peter Ruskin wrote: > > This happens in Cooker and 8.2. > > > > [13:14 peter@penguin:/usr/lib/openoffice]$ ./setup > > Segmentation fault > > > > [13:18 peter@penguin:~]$ rpm -qa | grep openoffice > > openoffice-6.0.41-6mdk > > Are you using kde and your kicker is not at the bottom (or top?). > StarOffice (at least the beta) and openoffice segfaults for me too, if > kicker is positioned on the left side (probably right too). Stupid bug, > of which I read in ggg first, probably all openoffice developer use > gnome... > > Ralf. You are right Ralf. Thankyou. I do use KDE and kicker is at the bottom but I do use an external taskbar on the left. If I move that to the bottom oo works. -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Bluebird) Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.2.0, patch level 9mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.1. Up 1 day 20 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] openoffice segfaults
On Montag, 1. April 2002 14:21:14, Peter Ruskin wrote: > This happens in Cooker and 8.2. > > [13:14 peter@penguin:/usr/lib/openoffice]$ ./setup > Segmentation fault > > [13:18 peter@penguin:~]$ rpm -qa | grep openoffice > openoffice-6.0.41-6mdk Are you using kde and your kicker is not at the bottom (or top?). StarOffice (at least the beta) and openoffice segfaults for me too, if kicker is positioned on the left side (probably right too). Stupid bug, of which I read in ggg first, probably all openoffice developer use gnome... Ralf.
Re: [Cooker] openoffice segfaults
On Monday 01 Apr 2002 18:28, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > Le Lundi 1 Avril 2002 14:21, vous avez écrit : > > [13:14 peter@penguin:/usr/lib/openoffice]$ ./setup > > Segmentation fault > > 1) Do you think it helps with so little information? Well, nope. > > 2) Why are you invoking setup by hand ? Because I was trying to run anything I could find about openoffice from an xconsole to get error messages. /usr/bin/oodraw, /usr/bin/oo, /usr/bin/oocalc, /usr/bin/oowriter all say "Segmentation fault". > > 3) Random thoughts to help you dig up more info: > - What is the content of ~/.sversionrc ? [Versions] OpenOffice.org 641=file:///home/peter/.openoffice StarOffice 5.2=/home/peter/office52 > - What sort a graphic card do you have? Does it happen to be a Savage? NVidia (ELSA Gladiac 511 - GeForce2 MX - 64MB DDR). > - Which language is set? Contents of /etc/sysconfig/i18n? [22:28 peter@penguin:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n SYSFONT=lat0-16 LC_MONETARY=en_GB LC_CTYPE=en_GB LC_NUMERIC=en_GB LC_MESSAGES=en_GB LANGUAGE=en_GB:en LC_TIME=en_GB LC_COLLATE=en_GB SYSFONTACM=iso15 LANG=en_GB > - How have you installed the package? DrakX -- clean install of 8.2 and cooker. > > Bye, > Gwenole -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. AMD Athlon XP 1600+, 512MB RAM. Registered Linux User 219434. Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Bluebird) Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.2.0, patch level 9mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.1. Up 4 hours 26 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] openoffice
On Monday 01 April 2002 20:09, Peter Ruskin wrote: > There's a strange file called "openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk.src.rpm.WLps5a" on > the mirrors in contrib/SRPMS -- been there a couple of days now. Sounds like a failed sync.
Re: [Cooker] openoffice segfaults
Le Lundi 1 Avril 2002 14:21, vous avez écrit : > [13:14 peter@penguin:/usr/lib/openoffice]$ ./setup > Segmentation fault 1) Do you think it helps with so little information? Well, nope. 2) Why are you invoking setup by hand ? 3) Random thoughts to help you dig up more info: - What is the content of ~/.sversionrc ? - What sort a graphic card do you have? Does it happen to be a Savage? - Which language is set? Contents of /etc/sysconfig/i18n? - How have you installed the package? Bye, Gwenole
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice 642 hits the Mirrors!
Hi, > Yes, OpenOffice 642 has hit the mirrors > The mirrors page is at: http://whiteboard.openoffice.org/mirrors/ Note this is development version that contains post OOo 1.0 code. OOo 1.0 has yet to be released though. Latest stable release remains OOo 641c which is included in 8.2. Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice Calc segs on copy
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Jason Straight wrote: > Don't know if this is some kind of fluke on my system, but I had to > install openoffice binary from openoffice.org due to openoffice > crashing when I tried to copy from calc. Will be fixed in -6mdk as -fno-strict-aliasing did the trick. As such, I believe in an OOo source error breaking aliasing rules rather than a gcc bug. The fact that it works with Sun's build is simply because they used -O1 optimization instead of -O2 which now includes strict-aliasing by default for any gcc >= "2.96". Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice src.rpm requires gcc3 (?)
On 11 Mar 2002, Brad Felmey wrote: > Is this correct? I thought one of the ideas behind source was to > eliminate dependencies like this. Not wanting that screwed-up bastard > stepchild known as gcc3 on my box in the first place is why I need to > build from source. Now I find it's a build requirement? > I find a few problem of trying to compile openoffice.src.rpm. I grab the source rpm at: ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/contrib/SRPMS/openoffice-6.0.41-5mdk.src.rpm But the compilation fail because there are one bz file can bunzip: * + rm -rf oo_641c_src + /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/oo_641c_src.tar.bz2 + tar -xf - bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows. bzip2: Success Input file = /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/oo_641c_src.tar.bz2, output file = (stdout) It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted. You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files. You can use the `bzip2recover' program to *attempt* to recover data from undamaged sections of corrupted files. tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.8819 (%prep) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.8819 (%prep) *** Where can I find the correct source rpm? Besides, I noted that the compiler compile openoffice as i586 binary, How can I compile it as i686 binary? -- \\\|/// \- - -// ( @ @ ) ---oOOo-(_)-oOOo--- Visit my homepage at http://www.carfield.com.hk ---
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice Calc segs on copy
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Jason Straight wrote: > Don't know if this is some kind of fluke on my system, but I had to > install openoffice binary from openoffice.org due to openoffice > crashing when I tried to copy from calc. Indeed, it crashes. On the other hand, the MDK rpm of OOo works when it comes to insert a frame. :-) This definitely seems to be a compiler bug and I am building a new rpm with less optimizations. We'll see how it goes within one or two days...
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice src.rpm requires gcc3 (?)
Brad Felmey wrote: > Is this correct? I thought one of the ideas behind source was to > eliminate dependencies like this. Not wanting that screwed-up bastard > stepchild known as gcc3 on my box in the first place is why I need to > build from source. Now I find it's a build requirement? > OpenOffice builds with gcc 2.95.x or gcc>=3.0.3 under unix, nothing else. If you have the time to port 400MB of c++ to compile with gcc 2.96, I guess you can avoid gcc3. The OpenOffice people thought it better to just support gcc3. Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/gpg.key
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice Calc segs on copy
Jason Straight wrote: > Don't know if this is some kind of fluke on my system, but I had to install > openoffice binary from openoffice.org due to openoffice crashing when I tried > to copy from calc. > > > Not a fluke. It happened to me when using CTRL-C to copy. Doesn't seem to happen when right-clicking and choosing copy, or Edit->Copy. However, none of them get you to the point of being able to paste! Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/gpg.key
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice src.rpm requires gcc3 (?)
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 06:09:14PM -0600, Brad Felmey wrote: > Not wanting that screwed-up bastard stepchild known as gcc3 Hmmm. 2.95 from GNU 2.96 from RedHat (and others) 3.0 from GNU Which is the "bastard stepchild" Personally I LIKE GCC 3.0 and use it as my default. I would like to use g++-3.0 also, but can't since most libs aren't built with it, and I don't feel like recompiling my system's entire set of c++ libs. If you don't like the fact that g++ 3.0 is incompatible with g++ 2.xx, then you should look at why. It was modified to follow the ISO namespace and name mangling standards to make so it can finally link with c++ libs from other "current generation" c++ compilers. Unlike the old days where pretty much all c++ libs were only compatible with a specific vendors compiler. It's called a little extra pain now to reduce long-term pain. Like Martin said, just add it, use it for this app and nothing else if you don't like it but 2.96 is the "bastard stepchild". -- TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice src.rpm requires gcc3 (?)
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 06:09:14PM -0600, Brad Felmey wrote: > Is this correct? I thought one of the ideas behind source was to > eliminate dependencies like this. Yes, but we're still on the road :) > Not wanting that screwed-up bastard stepchild known as gcc3 What is the problem? urpmi gcc3 and you'll have both on your system with gcc3 NOT default, so openoffice compilation will be happy and you won't screw up anything. Nor gcc-2.95 nor gcc-2.96 nor gcc-3.0 is perfect. There are still many apps (especially C++) that compiles with one and doesn't with another. Every known compiler has bugs and incompatibities (not just gcc problem), but we're getting better and better and we still have free choices ... Be happy ;-) -- Martin Mačok http://underground.cz/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://Xtrmntr.org/ORBman/
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice src.rpm requires gcc3 (?)
On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 18:31, J.A. Magallon wrote: > On 2002.03.12 Brad Felmey wrote: > >Is this correct? I thought one of the ideas behind source was to > >eliminate dependencies like this. Not wanting that screwed-up bastard > >stepchild known as gcc3 on my box in the first place is why I need to > >build from source. Now I find it's a build requirement? > > Afraid of a real compiler ;) ?? Not at all. In fact, that's part of the problem. I installed gcc3 when it very first came out, and I'm still so PO'd over how badly I got hosed over that fiasco that I'm averse to trying it again until there is a whole lot of empirical evidence that it's a different (better) animal than it was the last time I tried it. -- Brad Felmey
Re: [Cooker] OpenOffice src.rpm requires gcc3 (?)
On 2002.03.12 Brad Felmey wrote: >Is this correct? I thought one of the ideas behind source was to >eliminate dependencies like this. Not wanting that screwed-up bastard >stepchild known as gcc3 on my box in the first place is why I need to >build from source. Now I find it's a build requirement? Afraid of a real compiler ;) ?? -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source be with you... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux release 8.2 (Cooker) for i586 Linux werewolf 2.4.19-pre2-jam5 #1 SMP Mon Mar 11 16:08:11 CET 2002 i686
Re: [Cooker] openoffice with german localization?
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:35:15PM +0100, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > > How can I switch back to german language? > > 1) Dirty way but "safe": > - rpm -e openoffice > - rm -rf ~/.openoffice > - rpm -ivh openoffice -5mdk Thank's! This did the trick. :-) Was my fault. My own installation program (works fine since abaut 3 years) didn't have the i18n settings during installation. Now it has! ;-) Liebe Grüße, Nora. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW von Frauen für Frauen, Hamburghttp://www.w4w.net/ Lesbian Computer Networks, Helsinki http://www.sappho.net/ IM-NETZ Neue Medien, Berlin http://www.im-netz.de/
Re: [Cooker] openoffice with german localization?
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Nora Etukudo wrote: > Unfortunately everthing in OpenOffice.org is now in english. :-( Weird, please make sure: 1) You hadn't any ~/.openoffice already that was in English 2) You actually use German locales and LC_MESSAGES is set accordingly (de_DE?). Check /etc/sysconfig/i18n > How can I switch back to german language? 1) Dirty way but "safe": - rpm -e openoffice - rm -rf ~/.openoffice - rpm -ivh openoffice -5mdk 2) Hackery: - Provided you have German resources, make sure you have: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/resources/*64149.res - In ~/.openoffice/user/config/registry/instance/org/openoffice/Setup.xml s/en-US/fr-FR/ for tag - In ~/.openoffice/user/config/registry/instance/org/openoffice/Office/Linguistic.xml Likewise for tag HTH, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] openoffice src rpm in cooker contrib
Hi, > Can someone confirm the openoffice src rpm in cooker contrib builds ok > (rpm --rebuild openoffice-6.0.41-4mdk.src.rpm) I am getting errors in > the sleepycat db stuff What sort of errors? Make sure you don't run out of space. Actually, you need around 2 GB free to fully build the monster. -- gb, rebuilding for RC, will see if I get into troubles within next 8 h 30... ;-)
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice issues, and drakfont
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: > This works from the official OO.o 641c build (using setup -net). I see > that en_US.dic and en_US.aff are not in /usr/lib/openoffice/wordbook/ at > all? They are in /usr/lib/openoffice/user/wordbook/* where they ought to be in /usr/lib/openoffice/share/wordbook/english/, or in ~/.openoffice/user/wordbook/. > AFAIK there are no templates shipped with the source, but the template > functionality should work (it worked for me since 641 both windows and > linux). Ah OK then, I was still wondering what I got wrong. ;-) Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice issues, and drakfont
This wrapper script is still broken: Revision 1.2, Fri Mar 1 10:27:26 2002 UTC (48 minutes, 9 seconds ago) by mandrake Branch: MAIN CVS Tags: r6_0_41-2mdk, HEAD Changes since 1.1: +13 -1 lines #!/bin/sh ## - ## Wrapper script for OpenOffice.org ## - # Issue a workstation-type installation for the user, if necessary if [ ! -d "$HOME/.openoffice" ]; then /usr/lib/openoffice/program/setup -R:/etc/openoffice/autoresponse.conf fi # Expand TrueType and Type1 font paths ttf_fontpath="/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF;/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont/ttf" for fontdir in /usr/share/fonts/ttf/*; do ttf_fontpath="$ttf_fontpath;$fontdir" done type1_fontpath="/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1;/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1" export SAL_FONTPATH_USER="$ttf_fontpath;$type1_fontpath;$SAL_FONTPATH_USER" exec $HOME/.openoffice/soffice "$@" It won't work if the user had previously used OO.o641 and has a .sversionrc, but installed to something else than ~/.openoffice. (just ensuring you are aware of this, maybe you are working on it, but I must leave now and will only be able to check again over the weekend). Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: > > >>According to the OO.o mailing list, OO.o is supposed to check font paths >>using the output of /usr/sbin/chkfontpath or chkfontpath (which >>apparently gives all the xfs font paths under Redhat). This appears not >>to work. (I haven't been able to test this myself) >> > > What doesn't work? Here, /usr/sbin/chkfontpath actually lists me the > available font paths. > > >>A work-around is to modify the /usr/lib/openoffice/soffice startup >>script to tell it about more font paths (obviously the chkfontpath >>solution would be preferred). See the attached patch for how to get the >>drakfont ttfs working. >> > > I used another approach by defining SAL_FONTPATH_USER variable for -2mdk. > Probably should it be expanded to the result of chkfontpath in -3mdk. > > >>2)Spell checking is broken >>OO.o should support spell-cheching in en_US out the box. Attempting >>spell checking results in all words being marked as incorrectly spelt, >>and the following error message: >> > > Yes, known issue. Will probably be addressed in -3mdk. > > >>I believe the files should be copied from >>/usr/lib/openoffice/share/wordbook/english/ to >>~/.openoffice/user/wordbook during setup, but in the rpm, the only files >>supplied are: >> > > This is an OOo /net setup bug. Dictionaries are under > /usr/lib/openoffice/user/wordbook/* whereas they should be in > ~/.openoffice/user/wordbook/. > > >>Otherwise, it works very well. Some issues introduced with the official >>OO.o build with gcc-3.0.3 have been solved (probably due to using >>gcc-3.0.4), such as the Insert->Frame problem. >> > > Yes, that works here. What were the other issues? I still don't see the > templates and I am wondering if they are supposed to be in OOo actually... > > Thank you for testing the package. > > Bye, > Gwenole. > > -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/gpg.key
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice issues, and drakfont
Buchan Milne wrote: >> I used another approach by defining SAL_FONTPATH_USER variable for -2mdk. >> Probably should it be expanded to the result of chkfontpath in -3mdk. >> > > SAL_FONTPATH_USER should be fine. Expanding it to output of chkfontpath would be cooler (although OO.o binary is supposed to do this?). (I didn't want to imply that not using chkfontpath expanding was a good idea). Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/gpg.key
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice issues, and drakfont
Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: > > >>According to the OO.o mailing list, OO.o is supposed to check font paths >>using the output of /usr/sbin/chkfontpath or chkfontpath (which >>apparently gives all the xfs font paths under Redhat). This appears not >>to work. (I haven't been able to test this myself) >> > > What doesn't work? Here, /usr/sbin/chkfontpath actually lists me the > available font paths. > OO.o has never used any TTFs configured in xfs (whether from an OO.o official build or the RPM). It would only see them if I hacked the soffice script. It would be nice to see this working. > >>A work-around is to modify the /usr/lib/openoffice/soffice startup >>script to tell it about more font paths (obviously the chkfontpath >>solution would be preferred). See the attached patch for how to get the >>drakfont ttfs working. >> > > I used another approach by defining SAL_FONTPATH_USER variable for -2mdk. > Probably should it be expanded to the result of chkfontpath in -3mdk. > SAL_FONTPATH_USER should be fine. > >>2)Spell checking is broken >>OO.o should support spell-cheching in en_US out the box. Attempting >>spell checking results in all words being marked as incorrectly spelt, >>and the following error message: >> > > Yes, known issue. Will probably be addressed in -3mdk. > > >>I believe the files should be copied from >>/usr/lib/openoffice/share/wordbook/english/ to >>~/.openoffice/user/wordbook during setup, but in the rpm, the only files >>supplied are: >> > > This is an OOo /net setup bug. Dictionaries are under > /usr/lib/openoffice/user/wordbook/* whereas they should be in > ~/.openoffice/user/wordbook/. > > This works from the official OO.o 641c build (using setup -net). I see that en_US.dic and en_US.aff are not in /usr/lib/openoffice/wordbook/ at all? >>Otherwise, it works very well. Some issues introduced with the official >>OO.o build with gcc-3.0.3 have been solved (probably due to using >>gcc-3.0.4), such as the Insert->Frame problem. >> > > Yes, that works here. What were the other issues? I still don't see the > templates and I am wondering if they are supposed to be in OOo actually... AFAIK there are no templates shipped with the source, but the template functionality should work (it worked for me since 641 both windows and linux). ie, you should be able to use templates you (or others) have created. We have a template directory shared out by smb and NFS, which we were using in SO5.2, which works from OO.o641 (haven't been able to test the rpm yet though). You can find some templates here: http://whiteboard.openoffice.org/doc/Samples_Templates/User/template/index.html I don't see any license with them, but they were specifically created to be ditributed with OO.o at some stage. > > Thank you for testing the package. > Thanks for packaging it. Please let me know when you have got some more features to test. Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/gpg.key
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice issues, and drakfont
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: > According to the OO.o mailing list, OO.o is supposed to check font paths > using the output of /usr/sbin/chkfontpath or chkfontpath (which > apparently gives all the xfs font paths under Redhat). This appears not > to work. (I haven't been able to test this myself) What doesn't work? Here, /usr/sbin/chkfontpath actually lists me the available font paths. > A work-around is to modify the /usr/lib/openoffice/soffice startup > script to tell it about more font paths (obviously the chkfontpath > solution would be preferred). See the attached patch for how to get the > drakfont ttfs working. I used another approach by defining SAL_FONTPATH_USER variable for -2mdk. Probably should it be expanded to the result of chkfontpath in -3mdk. > 2)Spell checking is broken > OO.o should support spell-cheching in en_US out the box. Attempting > spell checking results in all words being marked as incorrectly spelt, > and the following error message: Yes, known issue. Will probably be addressed in -3mdk. > I believe the files should be copied from > /usr/lib/openoffice/share/wordbook/english/ to > ~/.openoffice/user/wordbook during setup, but in the rpm, the only files > supplied are: This is an OOo /net setup bug. Dictionaries are under /usr/lib/openoffice/user/wordbook/* whereas they should be in ~/.openoffice/user/wordbook/. > Otherwise, it works very well. Some issues introduced with the official > OO.o build with gcc-3.0.3 have been solved (probably due to using > gcc-3.0.4), such as the Insert->Frame problem. Yes, that works here. What were the other issues? I still don't see the templates and I am wondering if they are supposed to be in OOo actually... Thank you for testing the package. Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice in contrib
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 15:54, Joerg Skottke wrote: >> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: >>> FYI, it seems build 642 is approaching release, can probably expect it >>> within the week ... >> Huh, two things: >> 1) It does take time to compile it, and we are in RC by Friday. >> 2) We are waiting for permission to redistribute the packages. Yes, >> OpenOffice.org is LGPL but it uses some external lib (gpc) that conflicts >> with LGPL... > ... and third is: Please don't bundle that thing untested. But do leave it in contrib so the mirrors have it for those interested. (-: Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice in contrib
Maybe you can include some of the dictionaries from here: http://whiteboard.openoffice.org/lingucomponent/download_dictionary.html However, you will have to just take note of the licenses. Most of them are hosted away from openoffice.org because they are LGPL incompatible (mostly GPL). I haven't yet had a chance to test the packages yet, I will try to do so tonight ... Buchan Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: > > >>First thing I noticed is the numbering. OpenOffice.org has recently >>approved a proposal to call the first stable release of OpenOffice.org >>(more or less coinciding with Star Office 6.0) 1.0. Thus, you may want >>to number ot 0.641 (to retain the build number). >> > > Yes but I simply followed previous package's naming convention, thus > 6.0.. When 1.0.0 is out, there will be an Epoch: tag. > > Bye, > Gwenole. > > -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/gpg.key
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice in contrib
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: > First thing I noticed is the numbering. OpenOffice.org has recently > approved a proposal to call the first stable release of OpenOffice.org > (more or less coinciding with Star Office 6.0) 1.0. Thus, you may want > to number ot 0.641 (to retain the build number). Yes but I simply followed previous package's naming convention, thus 6.0.. When 1.0.0 is out, there will be an Epoch: tag. Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice in contrib
First thing I noticed is the numbering. OpenOffice.org has recently approved a proposal to call the first stable release of OpenOffice.org (more or less coinciding with Star Office 6.0) 1.0. Thus, you may want to number ot 0.641 (to retain the build number). Buchan Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Joerg Skottke wrote: > > >>... and third is: Please don't bundle that thing untested. >> > > Were you talking about the ongoing/development OO642B or the OO641C I > built into contribs? > > As usual, if you know any useful patches that could go into oo641c, please > don't hesitate. > > Bye, > Gwenole. > > -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/gpg.key
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice in contrib
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Joerg Skottke wrote: > ... and third is: Please don't bundle that thing untested. Were you talking about the ongoing/development OO642B or the OO641C I built into contribs? As usual, if you know any useful patches that could go into oo641c, please don't hesitate. Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice in contrib
... and third is: Please don't bundle that thing untested. Jörg > On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: > > > FYI, it seems build 642 is approaching release, can probably expect it > > within the week ... > > Huh, two things: > 1) It does take time to compile it, and we are in RC by Friday. > 2) We are waiting for permission to redistribute the packages. Yes, > OpenOffice.org is LGPL but it uses some external lib (gpc) that conflicts > with LGPL... > > Bye, > Gwenole. > > -- Jörg Skottke - zu erreichen unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bevorzugt) [EMAIL PROTECTED] GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net
Re: [Cooker] Openoffice in contrib
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: > FYI, it seems build 642 is approaching release, can probably expect it > within the week ... Huh, two things: 1) It does take time to compile it, and we are in RC by Friday. 2) We are waiting for permission to redistribute the packages. Yes, OpenOffice.org is LGPL but it uses some external lib (gpc) that conflicts with LGPL... Bye, Gwenole.
