Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-02 Thread Stew Benedict


On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:

> I think that I may try reinstalling everything but this time I will make
> three partitions within the first eight gigs. One of four for for OSX.1, two
> for Darwin, and two for Linux. The last twelve gigs I wil use for file
> storage. Is it possible to have my /home partition at the end of the drive,
> say in the last four gigs and evrything run alright? Is two gigs enough for
> my / and swap?
> 

That should be fine.  Once the kernel is loaded, I don't think you should
have any problems accessing the rest of the drive.  I think the problem in
is OF/yaboot.  I have a similar situation with a 40GB drive on an Intel
machine that doesn't care to see it properly.  I use an old drive that
was failing, but that I managed to mark off a small partition that was
clean, and use it to boot the system. Linux had no problem with the other
drive and I put the boot drive to sleep after the system is up.

2GB should be enough, depending on what you're going to install and how
much swap you're going to use.. I've done a whole install, just taking the
defaults, on 2GB partition, and had enough room to do things with it
afterward.

Stew Benedict

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RE: Still have the same problem

2001-12-02 Thread Jonathan Sailor

Don't ask me. Personally, this is my prefered setup:
/boot   ext2 25MB
/boot/strap hfs  5MB
swapswap 100MB
/   ext2 whatever's left


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Stechesen
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 11:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


I think that I may try reinstalling everything but this time I will make
three partitions within the first eight gigs. One of four for for OSX.1, two
for Darwin, and two for Linux. The last twelve gigs I wil use for file
storage. Is it possible to have my /home partition at the end of the drive,
say in the last four gigs and evrything run alright? Is two gigs enough for
my / and swap?


- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


>
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> > Thanks I'll try. Do you think that this could be one of those instances
> > where the combination of the size of my hard drive and the OF make it
> > impossible to boot past the 8 gig barrier?
> >
>
> That's entirely possible and something I overlooked.  I dropped a larger
> drive in my iMac and recall hitting a scenario in one of my tests where it
> would not boot.  I think Ben or someone mentioned an issue with OF on the
> older machines that may be the limiting factor here.  I don't suppose you
> have a way of getting /boot farther down in the partition table?
>
> Alternately, you could put the kernel on an HFS partition and boot it.
> Once the kernel is up I don't think it will matter. I hate to mix OS's
> like that, but it beats not booting at all.
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>
>



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Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Ben Reser

On Sat, Dec 01, 2001 at 08:06:58PM -0500, Stew Benedict wrote:
> That's entirely possible and something I overlooked.  I dropped a larger
> drive in my iMac and recall hitting a scenario in one of my tests where it
> would not boot.  I think Ben or someone mentioned an issue with OF on the
> older machines that may be the limiting factor here.  I don't suppose you
> have a way of getting /boot farther down in the partition table?

Yes that's probably it he has an iMac Rev B.  Which is an affected
machine.

The following document from Apple covers this problem though they are
only talking about OSX.  But it apply's to Linux if the bootstrap isn't
in the first 8GB too on these particular machines.

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106235

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Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Aaron Stechesen

I think that I may try reinstalling everything but this time I will make
three partitions within the first eight gigs. One of four for for OSX.1, two
for Darwin, and two for Linux. The last twelve gigs I wil use for file
storage. Is it possible to have my /home partition at the end of the drive,
say in the last four gigs and evrything run alright? Is two gigs enough for
my / and swap?


- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


>
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> > Thanks I'll try. Do you think that this could be one of those instances
> > where the combination of the size of my hard drive and the OF make it
> > impossible to boot past the 8 gig barrier?
> >
>
> That's entirely possible and something I overlooked.  I dropped a larger
> drive in my iMac and recall hitting a scenario in one of my tests where it
> would not boot.  I think Ben or someone mentioned an issue with OF on the
> older machines that may be the limiting factor here.  I don't suppose you
> have a way of getting /boot farther down in the partition table?
>
> Alternately, you could put the kernel on an HFS partition and boot it.
> Once the kernel is up I don't think it will matter. I hate to mix OS's
> like that, but it beats not booting at all.
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>
>






Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Stew Benedict


On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:

> Thanks I'll try. Do you think that this could be one of those instances
> where the combination of the size of my hard drive and the OF make it
> impossible to boot past the 8 gig barrier?
> 

That's entirely possible and something I overlooked.  I dropped a larger
drive in my iMac and recall hitting a scenario in one of my tests where it
would not boot.  I think Ben or someone mentioned an issue with OF on the
older machines that may be the limiting factor here.  I don't suppose you
have a way of getting /boot farther down in the partition table?

Alternately, you could put the kernel on an HFS partition and boot it.
Once the kernel is up I don't think it will matter. I hate to mix OS's
like that, but it beats not booting at all.

Stew Benedict

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RE: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Jonathan Sailor

Info on bootloader:
Open firmware booting is weird. First and foremost, there are actually three
files involved in a yaboot configuration. First is, obviously, the kernel.
Second and third are OFBOOT.B and yaboot. OFBOOT.B is some cryptic Forth
commands that instruct Open Firware to display the Mac, Linux, etc. Once an
option is selected, it chainloads to Mac, the CD, or loads Linux. To load
Linux, it calls yaboot. Yaboot is actual binary which does the loading of
Linux itself. Analogy for x86 users:
+-+
|   Grub  |
+-+
/   |'-\
++ ++ +-+
| {hda8} | | {hda9} | | {hda10} |
++ ++ +-+
|
   ++
   | Linux  |
 ++
In this, Grub is OFBOOT.B, hda8 and 9 are Mac and Darwin, and hda10 would be
Lilo in x86, but is yaboot in ppc. Linux is Linux.

H2H -Jonathan

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Stechesen
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem



- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> > here is the yaboot.conf details:
> >
> > init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n"
> > boot=/dev/hda7
> > ofboot=hd:7
> > delay=30
> > timeout=50
> > install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
> > magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot
> > enablecdboot
> > enableofboot
> > defaultos=linux
> > default=linux
> > novram
> > image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> >label=failsafe
> >root=/dev/hda8
> >initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
> >append=" failsafe"
> >read-only
> > macosx=hd:6
> >  image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> >label=linux
> >root=/dev/hda8
> >initrd=hd:8,/boot/initrd.img
> >read-write
> >
>
> This looks mostly OK.  This line is probably just a typo?:
>
> >initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
>
> Note the "." instead of ","
>
No. I t is. in fact initrd=hd:8,/boot/initrd.img

> Did you rerun ybin while you were in the chroot?
Not yet.

 And id so did you get the
> boot prompt?Also did you check the Open Firmware boot-device settings?

The setting is setenv boot-device hd:7,\\:tbxi
and the bootloader starts just fine. I boot into OS X, Firmware and CDROM
without troubles.
>
> To edit in rescue you would use vi.  For that I'd suggest checking google,
> as I'd rather not get into a vi lesson here.  Coming from MacOS, vi may
> seem a bit strange, but it's something you can count on being present on
> most any unix system you sit down at.
>
Just how would I launch it if I need to. Do I even need to? does the ","
need to be "."?

Thanks alot for your assistance by the way. There is a serious lack of help
on the mandrake user site and not a heck of alot of info tothis problem
elsewhere.
> Stew Benedict
>
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> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>
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Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Aaron Stechesen

Thanks I'll try. Do you think that this could be one of those instances
where the combination of the size of my hard drive and the OF make it
impossible to boot past the 8 gig barrier?

- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


>
> On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> > > try hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> > >
> > > or hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.4-6.2mdk
> >
> > where would i put this? The "initrd= " line?
> > Should I replace the "," 's with "." 's on the "initrd=" and "image="
lines?
> >
>
> type it at the boot: prompt
>
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>
>






Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Stew Benedict


On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:

> > try hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> >
> > or hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.4-6.2mdk
> 
> where would i put this? The "initrd= " line?
> Should I replace the "," 's with "." 's on the "initrd=" and "image=" lines?
> 

type it at the boot: prompt


Stew Benedict

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Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Aaron Stechesen

> try hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
>
> or hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.4-6.2mdk

where would i put this? The "initrd= " line?
Should I replace the "," 's with "." 's on the "initrd=" and "image=" lines?

> can you forward:
>
> ls -l /mnt/disk/boot
> when you are in rescue mode with yoyr partition mounted
>
> The bootloader setup seems OK, but perhaps your kernel is missing or
> corrupted.  This is a fresh install of 8.0?
>
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>






Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Aaron Stechesen

result of ls -l /mnt/disk/boot:

total 3672
-rw-r--r--   1 rootroot 455451 Jun 28 01:32
Sysytem.map-2.4.4-6.2mdk
-rw-r--r--   1 rootroot   28844 Jun 28 01:32
config-2.4.4-6.2mdk
-rw-r--r--   1 rootroot 521397 Nov 30 07:12
initrd-2.4.4-6.2mdk.img
lrwxrwxrwx1 rootroot  23 Nov 30 07:12 initrd.img ->
initrd-2.4.4-6.2mdk.img
lrwxrwxrwx1 rootroot  14 Nov 30 07:12 kernel.h ->
kernel.h-2.4.4
-rw-r--r--   1 rootroot441 Nov 30 07:12
kernel.h-2.4.4
-rw-r--r--   1 rootroot0 Nov 30 07:12
mac-us.ext.klt
-rw-r--r--   1 rootroot130 Nov 30 07:12 message
lrwxrwxrwx1 rootroot   20 Nov 30 07:12 vmlinuz ->
vmlinuz-2.4.4-6.2mdk*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 rootroot 2720888 Nov 30 07:12
vmlinuz-2.4.4-6.2mdk*

the "initrd.img" in line four, the "kernel.h" in the next line, and
"vmlinuz" in the second last line are in blue letters.
the "vmlinuz-2.4.4-6.2mdk" in the last two lines are in green letters (not
the hash marks though).
- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


> On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> > I just ran the chroot stuff that you told me to and then tried to boot
> > Mandrake. All I have on screen after the Welcome to Mandrake Linux! is:
> > boot: (to which i typed) linux
> > Loading kernel...
> > and then it just sits there
> > and sits there
> > and sits there
> > I got this far before and I know that it will sit there until I get
tired
> > and need to turn it off.:(
>
> try hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
>
> or hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.4-6.2mdk
>
> can you forward:
>
> ls -l /mnt/disk/boot
> when you are in rescue mode with yoyr partition mounted
>
> The bootloader setup seems OK, but perhaps your kernel is missing or
> corrupted.  This is a fresh install of 8.0?
>
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>






Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Aaron Stechesen


- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


> On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> > I just ran the chroot stuff that you told me to and then tried to boot
> > Mandrake. All I have on screen after the Welcome to Mandrake Linux! is:
> > boot: (to which i typed) linux
> > Loading kernel...
> > and then it just sits there
> > and sits there
> > and sits there
> > I got this far before and I know that it will sit there until I get
tired
> > and need to turn it off.:(
>
> try hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
>
> or hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.4-6.2mdk
>
> can you forward:
>
> ls -l /mnt/disk/boot
> when you are in rescue mode with yoyr partition mounted
>
> The bootloader setup seems OK, but perhaps your kernel is missing or
> corrupted.  This is a fresh install of 8.0?

Yes sir it is. Installed it last night and this is the same result as the
countless time before:(

>
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
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> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>






Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Aaron Stechesen

Cool, thank you!
- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan Sailor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: Still have the same problem


> VI Basics (I'm bored, why not?):
>
> run: vi 
> type: "I" (w/o quotes)
> use arrows to move up/down/left/right, same as SimpleText except W/O a
> mouse.
> when done, ESC to exit editing mode, and ZZ to save/quit, or use
":q!"ENTER
> (w/o quotes).
>
> Example:
> vi /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
> DOWN DOWN RIGHT DELETE 2
> ESC "ZZ"
>
> Used Vi to replcae the 1st character on the third line with a "2". Saved,
> and quit.
>
> Hope to help. Also, you may want to install pico on your system. It's a
very
> useful editor, with help, all. Just pico filename, and everything else is
> pie.
>
> H2H, Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Stechesen
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Still have the same problem
>
>
> I just ran the chroot stuff that you told me to and then tried to boot
> Mandrake. All I have on screen after the Welcome to Mandrake Linux! is:
> boot: (to which i typed) linux
> Loading kernel...
> and then it just sits there
> and sits there
> and sits there
> I got this far before and I know that it will sit there until I get tired
> and need to turn it off.:(
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 6:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Still have the same problem
>
>
> >
> > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
> >
> > > here is the yaboot.conf details:
> > >
> > > init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n"
> > > boot=/dev/hda7
> > > ofboot=hd:7
> > > delay=30
> > > timeout=50
> > > install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
> > > magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot
> > > enablecdboot
> > > enableofboot
> > > defaultos=linux
> > > default=linux
> > > novram
> > > image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> > >label=failsafe
> > >root=/dev/hda8
> > >initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
> > >append=" failsafe"
> > >read-only
> > > macosx=hd:6
> > >  image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> > >label=linux
> > >root=/dev/hda8
> > >initrd=hd:8,/boot/initrd.img
> > >read-write
> > >
> >
> > This looks mostly OK.  This line is probably just a typo?:
> >
> > >initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
> >
> > Note the "." instead of ","
> >
> > Did you rerun ybin while you were in the chroot? And id so did you get
the
> > boot prompt?  Also did you check the Open Firmware boot-device settings?
> >
> > To edit in rescue you would use vi.  For that I'd suggest checking
google,
> > as I'd rather not get into a vi lesson here.  Coming from MacOS, vi may
> > seem a bit strange, but it's something you can count on being present on
> > most any unix system you sit down at.
> >
> > Stew Benedict
> >
> > --
> > MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> > PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Stew Benedict

On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:

> I just ran the chroot stuff that you told me to and then tried to boot
> Mandrake. All I have on screen after the Welcome to Mandrake Linux! is:
> boot: (to which i typed) linux
> Loading kernel...
> and then it just sits there
> and sits there
> and sits there
> I got this far before and I know that it will sit there until I get tired
> and need to turn it off.:(

try hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz

or hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.4-6.2mdk

can you forward:

ls -l /mnt/disk/boot
when you are in rescue mode with yoyr partition mounted

The bootloader setup seems OK, but perhaps your kernel is missing or
corrupted.  This is a fresh install of 8.0?


Stew Benedict

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RE: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Jonathan Sailor

VI Basics (I'm bored, why not?):

run: vi 
type: "I"   (w/o quotes)
use arrows to move up/down/left/right, same as SimpleText except W/O a
mouse.
when done, ESC to exit editing mode, and ZZ to save/quit, or use ":q!"ENTER
(w/o quotes).

Example:
vi /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
DOWN DOWN RIGHT DELETE 2
ESC "ZZ"

Used Vi to replcae the 1st character on the third line with a "2". Saved,
and quit.

Hope to help. Also, you may want to install pico on your system. It's a very
useful editor, with help, all. Just pico filename, and everything else is
pie.

H2H, Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron Stechesen
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


I just ran the chroot stuff that you told me to and then tried to boot
Mandrake. All I have on screen after the Welcome to Mandrake Linux! is:
boot: (to which i typed) linux
Loading kernel...
and then it just sits there
and sits there
and sits there
I got this far before and I know that it will sit there until I get tired
and need to turn it off.:(
- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> > here is the yaboot.conf details:
> >
> > init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n"
> > boot=/dev/hda7
> > ofboot=hd:7
> > delay=30
> > timeout=50
> > install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
> > magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot
> > enablecdboot
> > enableofboot
> > defaultos=linux
> > default=linux
> > novram
> > image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> >label=failsafe
> >root=/dev/hda8
> >initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
> >append=" failsafe"
> >read-only
> > macosx=hd:6
> >  image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> >label=linux
> >root=/dev/hda8
> >initrd=hd:8,/boot/initrd.img
> >read-write
> >
>
> This looks mostly OK.  This line is probably just a typo?:
>
> >initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
>
> Note the "." instead of ","
>
> Did you rerun ybin while you were in the chroot? And id so did you get the
> boot prompt?  Also did you check the Open Firmware boot-device settings?
>
> To edit in rescue you would use vi.  For that I'd suggest checking google,
> as I'd rather not get into a vi lesson here.  Coming from MacOS, vi may
> seem a bit strange, but it's something you can count on being present on
> most any unix system you sit down at.
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>
>



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Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Aaron Stechesen

I just ran the chroot stuff that you told me to and then tried to boot
Mandrake. All I have on screen after the Welcome to Mandrake Linux! is:
boot: (to which i typed) linux
Loading kernel...
and then it just sits there
and sits there
and sits there
I got this far before and I know that it will sit there until I get tired
and need to turn it off.:(
- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> > here is the yaboot.conf details:
> >
> > init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n"
> > boot=/dev/hda7
> > ofboot=hd:7
> > delay=30
> > timeout=50
> > install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
> > magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot
> > enablecdboot
> > enableofboot
> > defaultos=linux
> > default=linux
> > novram
> > image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> >label=failsafe
> >root=/dev/hda8
> >initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
> >append=" failsafe"
> >read-only
> > macosx=hd:6
> >  image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> >label=linux
> >root=/dev/hda8
> >initrd=hd:8,/boot/initrd.img
> >read-write
> >
>
> This looks mostly OK.  This line is probably just a typo?:
>
> >initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
>
> Note the "." instead of ","
>
> Did you rerun ybin while you were in the chroot? And id so did you get the
> boot prompt?  Also did you check the Open Firmware boot-device settings?
>
> To edit in rescue you would use vi.  For that I'd suggest checking google,
> as I'd rather not get into a vi lesson here.  Coming from MacOS, vi may
> seem a bit strange, but it's something you can count on being present on
> most any unix system you sit down at.
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>
>






Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Aaron Stechesen


- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> > here is the yaboot.conf details:
> >
> > init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n"
> > boot=/dev/hda7
> > ofboot=hd:7
> > delay=30
> > timeout=50
> > install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
> > magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot
> > enablecdboot
> > enableofboot
> > defaultos=linux
> > default=linux
> > novram
> > image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> >label=failsafe
> >root=/dev/hda8
> >initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
> >append=" failsafe"
> >read-only
> > macosx=hd:6
> >  image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
> >label=linux
> >root=/dev/hda8
> >initrd=hd:8,/boot/initrd.img
> >read-write
> >
>
> This looks mostly OK.  This line is probably just a typo?:
>
> >initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
>
> Note the "." instead of ","
>
No. I t is. in fact initrd=hd:8,/boot/initrd.img

> Did you rerun ybin while you were in the chroot?
Not yet.

 And id so did you get the
> boot prompt?Also did you check the Open Firmware boot-device settings?

The setting is setenv boot-device hd:7,\\:tbxi
and the bootloader starts just fine. I boot into OS X, Firmware and CDROM
without troubles.
>
> To edit in rescue you would use vi.  For that I'd suggest checking google,
> as I'd rather not get into a vi lesson here.  Coming from MacOS, vi may
> seem a bit strange, but it's something you can count on being present on
> most any unix system you sit down at.
>
Just how would I launch it if I need to. Do I even need to? does the ","
need to be "."?

Thanks alot for your assistance by the way. There is a serious lack of help
on the mandrake user site and not a heck of alot of info tothis problem
elsewhere.
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>
>






Re: Still have the same problem

2001-12-01 Thread Stew Benedict


On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:

> here is the yaboot.conf details:
> 
> init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n"
> boot=/dev/hda7
> ofboot=hd:7
> delay=30
> timeout=50
> install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
> magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot
> enablecdboot
> enableofboot
> defaultos=linux
> default=linux
> novram
> image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
>label=failsafe
>root=/dev/hda8
>initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
>append=" failsafe"
>read-only
> macosx=hd:6
>  image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
>label=linux
>root=/dev/hda8
>initrd=hd:8,/boot/initrd.img
>read-write
> 

This looks mostly OK.  This line is probably just a typo?:

>initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img

Note the "." instead of ","

Did you rerun ybin while you were in the chroot? And id so did you get the
boot prompt?  Also did you check the Open Firmware boot-device settings?

To edit in rescue you would use vi.  For that I'd suggest checking google,
as I'd rather not get into a vi lesson here.  Coming from MacOS, vi may
seem a bit strange, but it's something you can count on being present on
most any unix system you sit down at.

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/





Re: Still have the same problem

2001-11-30 Thread Aaron Stechesen

here is the yaboot.conf details:

init-message="\nWelcome to Mandrake Linux!\n"
boot=/dev/hda7
ofboot=hd:7
delay=30
timeout=50
install=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/local/lib/yaboot/ofboot
enablecdboot
enableofboot
defaultos=linux
default=linux
novram
image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
   label=failsafe
   root=/dev/hda8
   initrd=hd:8./boot/initrd.img
   append=" failsafe"
   read-only
macosx=hd:6
 image=hd:8,/boot/vmlinuz
   label=linux
   root=/dev/hda8
   initrd=hd:8,/boot/initrd.img
   read-write

Anything you can suggest would be welcome. Also, how do I erase/edit line in
this file in rescue mode?

Thanks!
- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: Still have the same problem
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
> > >
> > > > last night I posted that I was unable to boot Linux after
installing. I
> > still have the same trouble and even through rescue I can't boot!
> > > >
> > > > I am very new to this type of trouble when you reply with
suggestions
> > please be specific with the commands that I should be typing (/ is on
hda8
> > and the bootloader is on 7), and what I should suspect, change and where
i
> > should be looking. Programs I should use if I need to alter or build
> > anything.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > Aaron
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Boot CD iin rescue mode:
> > > Hold down "C" at boot
> > > Type "rescue" at yaboot boot prompt
> > >
> > > Mount Linux partion on /mnt/disk
> > > mount /dev/hda8 /mnt/disk
> > >
> > > Check your yaboot.conf at /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
> > > (send it to the list if you like for further examination)
> > >
> > when i get to here and type in the string i get the error
> > bash: /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf:permission denied
> > I am root so what is going on here?
> > Suggestions welcome. Again be specific. Thanks.
> >
>
> Oops, sorry - you are really new to this ;^)
> If you just type the name, it is going to try to run it, which won't
> happen. It's just a text config file, so you want to view it:
>
> cat /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
> less /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
> more /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
>
> are a few ways
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>
>






Re: Still have the same problem

2001-11-30 Thread Aaron Stechesen

thanks! yes I am very new to commands, i am slowly learning though. you can
thank apple for my idiocy as they always made everything so darn easy:)
- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: Still have the same problem
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
> > >
> > > > last night I posted that I was unable to boot Linux after
installing. I
> > still have the same trouble and even through rescue I can't boot!
> > > >
> > > > I am very new to this type of trouble when you reply with
suggestions
> > please be specific with the commands that I should be typing (/ is on
hda8
> > and the bootloader is on 7), and what I should suspect, change and where
i
> > should be looking. Programs I should use if I need to alter or build
> > anything.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > Aaron
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Boot CD iin rescue mode:
> > > Hold down "C" at boot
> > > Type "rescue" at yaboot boot prompt
> > >
> > > Mount Linux partion on /mnt/disk
> > > mount /dev/hda8 /mnt/disk
> > >
> > > Check your yaboot.conf at /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
> > > (send it to the list if you like for further examination)
> > >
> > when i get to here and type in the string i get the error
> > bash: /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf:permission denied
> > I am root so what is going on here?
> > Suggestions welcome. Again be specific. Thanks.
> >
>
> Oops, sorry - you are really new to this ;^)
> If you just type the name, it is going to try to run it, which won't
> happen. It's just a text config file, so you want to view it:
>
> cat /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
> less /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
> more /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
>
> are a few ways
>
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>
>






Re: Still have the same problem

2001-11-30 Thread Stew Benedict


On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:

> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Still have the same problem
> 
> 
> >
> > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
> >
> > > last night I posted that I was unable to boot Linux after installing. I
> still have the same trouble and even through rescue I can't boot!
> > >
> > > I am very new to this type of trouble when you reply with suggestions
> please be specific with the commands that I should be typing (/ is on hda8
> and the bootloader is on 7), and what I should suspect, change and where i
> should be looking. Programs I should use if I need to alter or build
> anything.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > > Aaron
> > >
> >
> >
> > Boot CD iin rescue mode:
> > Hold down "C" at boot
> > Type "rescue" at yaboot boot prompt
> >
> > Mount Linux partion on /mnt/disk
> > mount /dev/hda8 /mnt/disk
> >
> > Check your yaboot.conf at /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
> > (send it to the list if you like for further examination)
> >
> when i get to here and type in the string i get the error
> bash: /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf:permission denied
> I am root so what is going on here?
> Suggestions welcome. Again be specific. Thanks.
> 

Oops, sorry - you are really new to this ;^)
If you just type the name, it is going to try to run it, which won't
happen. It's just a text config file, so you want to view it:

cat /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
less /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
more /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf

are a few ways

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/





Re: Still have the same problem

2001-11-30 Thread Aaron Stechesen


- Original Message -
From: "Stew Benedict" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: Still have the same problem


>
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:
>
> > last night I posted that I was unable to boot Linux after installing. I
still have the same trouble and even through rescue I can't boot!
> >
> > I am very new to this type of trouble when you reply with suggestions
please be specific with the commands that I should be typing (/ is on hda8
and the bootloader is on 7), and what I should suspect, change and where i
should be looking. Programs I should use if I need to alter or build
anything.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > Aaron
> >
>
>
> Boot CD iin rescue mode:
> Hold down "C" at boot
> Type "rescue" at yaboot boot prompt
>
> Mount Linux partion on /mnt/disk
> mount /dev/hda8 /mnt/disk
>
> Check your yaboot.conf at /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
> (send it to the list if you like for further examination)
>
when i get to here and type in the string i get the error
bash: /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf:permission denied
I am root so what is going on here?
Suggestions welcome. Again be specific. Thanks.


> If you think it looks good, re-run ybin in a chroot environment:
> cd /
> chroot /mnt/disk
> /sbin/ybin -v
> exit
>
> Reboot:
> reboot
>
> You might also want to check open firmware to see if the boot-device is
> set properly.  The installer should have given you a message telling what
> needed to be done (did you write down the cryptic commands?)
>
> Command(Apple)-Option-O-F at boot
> printenv
>
> boot-device in your case should be hd:7,\\:tbxi
> If it's not:
>
> setenv boot-device hd:7,\\:tbxi
> shut-down
>
> Re-power the machine and see what happens
>
> HTH,
> Stew Benedict
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft OH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
> PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
>
>
>






Re: Still have the same problem

2001-11-30 Thread Stew Benedict


On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Aaron Stechesen wrote:

> last night I posted that I was unable to boot Linux after installing. I still have 
>the same trouble and even through rescue I can't boot!
> 
> I am very new to this type of trouble when you reply with suggestions please be 
>specific with the commands that I should be typing (/ is on hda8 and the bootloader 
>is on 7), and what I should suspect, change and where i should be looking. Programs I 
>should use if I need to alter or build anything.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> Aaron
> 


Boot CD iin rescue mode:
Hold down "C" at boot
Type "rescue" at yaboot boot prompt

Mount Linux partion on /mnt/disk
mount /dev/hda8 /mnt/disk

Check your yaboot.conf at /mnt/disk/etc/yaboot.conf
(send it to the list if you like for further examination)

If you think it looks good, re-run ybin in a chroot environment:
cd /
chroot /mnt/disk
/sbin/ybin -v
exit

Reboot:
reboot

You might also want to check open firmware to see if the boot-device is
set properly.  The installer should have given you a message telling what
needed to be done (did you write down the cryptic commands?)

Command(Apple)-Option-O-F at boot
printenv

boot-device in your case should be hd:7,\\:tbxi
If it's not:

setenv boot-device hd:7,\\:tbxi
shut-down

Re-power the machine and see what happens

HTH,
Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/