Re: Installing RC1 on a 8600
On 1 Sep 2001, Robert M. Fuhrer wrote: > Now I have problem in dealing with partitioning. > > I partitioned my hard drive in advance using pdisk (I have an install > of LinuxPPC on another drive), and mkfs'ed all the partitions I > wanted to use to house file systems. I then followed this path: > > -> Use existing partitions > -> Choose mount points (I type in the mount points for the various > partitions I set up, e.g., "/", "/usr", "/tmp") > -> Choose the partitions you want to format > > At this point, if I select all but the partitions that already have > stuff on them (e.g. /home), I get (exactly as the message appears): > > "An error occurred > swap area needs to be." > > If on the other hand I select all but the partitions that have data > on them AND the swap partitions, I get: > > "An error occurred > swapon(sda4) failed: No such device or address." > > But /dev/sda4 (the swap partition) IS in fact visible if I run pdisk > on VT#2. > I'm not sure what it is about having LinuxPPC on the machine, but setting up the partitions with it always seems to give the installer fits. I think you would have better luck letting the installer create the partitions. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/ PPC Faq: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppc&m=99441208917647&w=
Re: Installing RC1 on a 8600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert M. Fuhrer) writes: > "Jonathan Sailor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The yab key is actually in yaboot, so to use install-text, you would > > append something to the kernel options line in BootX. Probably > > "text". If you want you can dig through the yaboot config file. I > > would do it, mut I don't have the new ISOs yet :-( > > Glancing at the yaboot.conf from the install CD, looks like you're > right; just append "text". I'll give that a shot. That worked fine; thanks! Now I have problem in dealing with partitioning. I partitioned my hard drive in advance using pdisk (I have an install of LinuxPPC on another drive), and mkfs'ed all the partitions I wanted to use to house file systems. I then followed this path: -> Use existing partitions -> Choose mount points (I type in the mount points for the various partitions I set up, e.g., "/", "/usr", "/tmp") -> Choose the partitions you want to format At this point, if I select all but the partitions that already have stuff on them (e.g. /home), I get (exactly as the message appears): "An error occurred swap area needs to be." If on the other hand I select all but the partitions that have data on them AND the swap partitions, I get: "An error occurred swapon(sda4) failed: No such device or address." But /dev/sda4 (the swap partition) IS in fact visible if I run pdisk on VT#2. -- Bob
Re: Installing RC1 on a 8600
"Jonathan Sailor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The yab key is actually in yaboot, so to use install-text, you would > append something to the kernel options line in BootX. Probably > "text". If you want you can dig through the yaboot config file. I > would do it, mut I don't have the new ISOs yet :-( Glancing at the yaboot.conf from the install CD, looks like you're right; just append "text". I'll give that a shot. > - -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert M. > Fuhrer > Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Installing RC1 on a 8600 > > > > Options: text install (known to be ugly but works) > > try using install-video and append your own video args > > When booting via BootX, I don't seem to get the chance to hit TAB to > get at those options. I tried holding down the TAB key while the > install kernel was starting up, but I still ended up at the "what > kind of install" dialog (NFS/net/CDROM/disk), where TAB has a > different effect. > > How do I get at those install options (install-video, > install-text...)? -- Bob
RE: Installing RC1 on a 8600
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The yab key is actually in yaboot, so to use install-text, you would append something to the kernel options line in BootX. Probably "text". If you want you can dig through the yaboot config file. I would do it, mut I don't have the new ISOs yet :-( Good luck --Jonathan Sailor - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert M. Fuhrer Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Installing RC1 on a 8600 > > On the other hand, aren't I suppose to get a shell on VT #2? > > I don't see one. Perhaps this is the reason? > > > > Yes you are - this is a new one - no shell? My mistake -- there was no prompt on VT #2 until I hit . Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 30 Aug 2001, Robert M. Fuhrer wrote: > > Same here, although I only needed to load the MESH module. I've > > got a PowerTower Pro 200 (604e-based clone with the same guts as > > the Apple 9600, IIRC). > > > > I used the RC1 CD's, the supplied 2.4 kernel and ramdisk image > > "all.gz". > > > > > Now we get to my problems. The display during the install is > > > awful in one of two ways depending on if I check the 'Force > > > video' option on BootX. I either get a nice looking display > > > but the ADB mouse responds extremely slowly or I get a squished > > > display with odd colors, the images wrap strangely on the > > > screen, but the mouse functions fine. When the mouse is > > > unresponsive, the keyboard also responds poorly (very, very > > > slow). > > This is an indication that Xpmac is not running in an appropriate > mode on your machine. Looking at the process list from VT#2, I see that Xpmac is running with the "-mach64" option, which should be right (see kernel arg list below). Hmmm... > Options: text install (known to be ugly but works) >try using install-video and append your own video args When booting via BootX, I don't seem to get the chance to hit TAB to get at those options. I tried holding down the TAB key while the install kernel was starting up, but I still ended up at the "what kind of install" dialog (NFS/net/CDROM/disk), where TAB has a different effect. How do I get at those install options (install-video, install-text...)? BTW, I tried the "Hard drive" option and the kernel crashed hard, with oops info similar to what I reported below (sig 4 again). I've had different but no better luck with the 2.2 series install kernels. FYI, I'm running 2.2.17 now. > > X drawing performance is also horrible. It takes a couple/few > > minutes for the Mandrake install screen to show up with the > > language selection step. > > > > I have an IMS TwinTurbo 4M video card. I've always had issues > > with the video driver. I usually run in 8-bit 1280x1024 on my > > Sony 20" Multiscan with the following kernel args: > > > > video=imsttb:vmode:20,cmode:8 -mach64 > > > > I've run with/without the "No video driver" checked, and with/ > > without the above kernel args. > > > I also noticed several messages on the first console. The same > > > message kept scrolling by which basically said the default > > > locale was set incorrectly in a gtk module (perl I think?) and > > > it could not find the correct information. I doubt that has > > > anything to do with the problems I have but it could be > > > something to clean up later. > > > > known problem - doesn't seem to affect install though Are you sure? If I drop into the shell on VT#2 and run "ps" several times, I see a succession of perl processes, all attempting to run the following: /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/runinstall2 --method cdrom Judging by the process ID's, several of these were being spawned each second. > > Also, on VT #3, I see the following messages: > > > > * warning rm of /usr/share/locale failed: No such file or > > directory > > * getFile VERSION: > > * Trying with server Xpmac > > * starting step 'selectLanguage' > > * getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en_US.po: > > * errorOpeningFile > > Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en_US.po > > * getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en.po: > > * errorOpeningFile > > Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en.po > > > > Sure enough, those two files are missing on the RC1 install CD. > > > > also known - but locales do seem to get set
Re: Installing RC1 on a 8600
> > On the other hand, aren't I suppose to get a shell on VT #2? > > I don't see one. Perhaps this is the reason? > > > > Yes you are - this is a new one - no shell? My mistake -- there was no prompt on VT #2 until I hit . Stew Benedict <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 30 Aug 2001, Robert M. Fuhrer wrote: > > Same here, although I only needed to load the MESH module. I've got a > > PowerTower Pro 200 (604e-based clone with the same guts as the Apple > > 9600, IIRC). > > > > I used the RC1 CD's, the supplied 2.4 kernel and ramdisk image "all.gz". > > > > > Now we get to my problems. The display during the install is awful > > > in one of two ways depending on if I check the 'Force video' option on > > > BootX. I either get a nice looking display but the ADB mouse responds > > > extremely slowly or I get a squished display with odd colors, the images > > > wrap strangely on the screen, but the mouse functions fine. When the > > > mouse is unresponsive, the keyboard also responds poorly (very, very > > > slow). > > This is an indication that Xpmac is not running in an appropriate mode on > your machine. Looking at the process list from VT#2, I see that Xpmac is running with the "-mach64" option, which should be right (see kernel arg list below). Hmmm... > Options: text install (known to be ugly but works) >try using install-video and append your own video args When booting via BootX, I don't seem to get the chance to hit TAB to get at those options. I tried holding down the TAB key while the install kernel was starting up, but I still ended up at the "what kind of install" dialog (NFS/net/CDROM/disk), where TAB has a different effect. How do I get at those install options (install-video, install-text...)? BTW, I tried the "Hard drive" option and the kernel crashed hard, with oops info similar to what I reported below (sig 4 again). I've had different but no better luck with the 2.2 series install kernels. FYI, I'm running 2.2.17 now. > > X drawing performance is also horrible. It takes a couple/few > > minutes for the Mandrake install screen to show up with the > > language selection step. > > > > I have an IMS TwinTurbo 4M video card. I've always had issues > > with the video driver. I usually run in 8-bit 1280x1024 on my > > Sony 20" Multiscan with the following kernel args: > > > > video=imsttb:vmode:20,cmode:8 -mach64 > > > > I've run with/without the "No video driver" checked, and with/ > > without the above kernel args. > > > I also noticed several messages on the first console. The same message > > > kept scrolling by which basically said the default locale was set > > > incorrectly in a gtk module (perl I think?) and it could not find > > > the correct information. I doubt that has anything to do with the > > > problems I have but it could be something to clean up later. > > > > known problem - doesn't seem to affect install though Are you sure? If I drop into the shell on VT#2 and run "ps" several times, I see a succession of perl processes, all attempting to run the following: /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/runinstall2 --method cdrom Judging by the process ID's, several of these were being spawned each second. > > Also, on VT #3, I see the following messages: > > > > * warning rm of /usr/share/locale failed: No such file or directory > > * getFile VERSION: > > * Trying with server Xpmac > > * starting step 'selectLanguage' > > * getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en_US.po: > > * errorOpeningFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en_US.po > > * getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en.po: > > * errorOpeningFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en.po > > > > Sure enough, those two files are missing on the RC1 install CD. > > > > also known - but locales do seem to get set correctly for other languages Do you have an en_US.po file that I can pop onto the CD image? > > And finally, on VT #4, I noticed the following kernel oops: > > > > [...] > > <6> Partition check: > > <6> sda: [mac] sda1 sda3 sda4 sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 sda10 > > Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 4 > > <4> NIP: C01C3980 XER: 2100 LR: C027E7A4 SP: C8C53C60 REGS: C8C53BB0 TRAP: >0700 > > <4> MSR: 00089032 EE: 1 PR: 0 FP: 0 ME: 1 IR/DR: 11 > > <4> TASK = C8C52000 [20] 'insmod_' Last syscall: 128 > > [...] > > > > This looks bad, and it never seems to get to checking partitions > > on the other disks (I've got 2 other hard drives at sdb and sdc). > > I don't like the looks of this one either, but it looks like another > module was attempting to load. -- Bob
Re: Installing RC1 on a 8600
On 30 Aug 2001, Robert M. Fuhrer wrote: > Josh Bonczkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I downloaded the RC1 ISOs over the weekend and attempted an install > > last night. I'm very glad I started to read the old messages of > > this list yesterday through the archives as it helped me get past > > a few problems. > > > > First, the supplied kernel images allowed me to boot mostly properly. > > Because this is an older SCSI machine, I had to load two modules by hand. > > One was for the SCSI controlled itself (I don't remember the name). The > > other was the MESH module. Once both of these modules were loaded > > the SCSI CD was found and the installation would begin. > > Same here, although I only needed to load the MESH module. I've got a > PowerTower Pro 200 (604e-based clone with the same guts as the Apple > 9600, IIRC). > > I used the RC1 CD's, the supplied 2.4 kernel and ramdisk image "all.gz". > > > Now we get to my problems. The display during the install is awful > > in one of two ways depending on if I check the 'Force video' option on > > BootX. I either get a nice looking display but the ADB mouse responds > > extremely slowly or I get a squished display with odd colors, the images > > wrap strangely on the screen, but the mouse functions fine. When the > > mouse is unresponsive, the keyboard also responds poorly (very, very > > slow). > This is an indication that Xpmac is not running in an appropriate mode on your machine. Options: text install (known to be ugly but works) try using install-video and append your own video args > I saw this too. > > I'm not sure, but I think that X drawing performance is also horrible. > It takes a couple/few minutes for the Mandrake install screen to show > up with the language selection step. I'm installing off of a Yamaha > 8x4x24 CDRW, but it doesn't look like that could be the bottleneck. > > FWIW, I have an IMS TwinTurbo 4M video card. I've always had issues > with the video driver. I usually run in 8-bit 1280x1024 on my Sony > 20" Multiscan with the following kernel args: > > video=imsttb:vmode:20,cmode:8 -mach64 > > I've run both with and without the "No video driver" checked, and with > and without the above kernel args. > > > I get the same behavior with the on board (Chaos) controller as well as > > with a Matrox Millenium II PCI card. > > Well, I'm glad it isn't just *my* video card, since there aren't that > many of them around it seems, and it doesn't seem likely that I'll get > the fixes I need if the problem only occurs with them. > > > I also noticed several messages on the first console. The same message > > kept scrolling by which basically said the default locale was set > > incorrectly in a gtk module (perl I think?) and it could not find > > the correct information. I doubt that has anything to do with the > > problems I have but it could be something to clean up later. > known problem - doesn't seem to affect install though > I get this too. Here's what it says, many times over on VT #1: > > ...Gdk WARNING **: locale not supported by C library at >/usr/bin/perl-install/my_gtk.pm line 279 > ...Gdk WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C at >/usr/bin/perl-install/my_gtk.pm line 279 > ...Gdk WARNING **: can not set locale modifiers at /usr/bin/perl-install/my_gtk.pm >line 279 > > Also, on VT #3, I see the following messages: > > * warning rm of /usr/share/locale failed: No such file or directory > * getFile VERSION: > * Trying with server Xpmac > * starting step 'selectLanguage' > * getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en_US.po: > * errorOpeningFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en_US.po > * getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en.po: > * errorOpeningFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en.po > > Sure enough, those two files are missing on the RC1 install CD. > also known - but locales do seem to get set correctly for other languages > And finally, on VT #4, I noticed the following kernel oops: > > [...] > <6> Partition check: > <6> sda: [mac] sda1 sda3 sda4 sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 sda10 > Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 4 > <4> NIP: C01C3980 XER: 2100 LR: C027E7A4 SP: C8C53C60 REGS: C8C53BB0 TRAP: 0700 > <4> MSR: 00089032 EE: 1 PR: 0 FP: 0 ME: 1 IR/DR: 11 > <4> TASK = C8C52000 [20] 'insmod_' Last syscall: 128 > [...] > > I doubt this is related to the horribly slow X performance, but it > looks wrong, particularly since it never seems to get to checking > partitions the other disks (I've got 2 other hard drives at sdb and > sdc). > I don't like the looks of this one either, but it looks like another module was attempting to load. > Admittedly, I initialized the Mac partition map for this physical > drive using the recipe I saw somewhere (dd the 1st 16 blocks from > the raw device /dev/sda and use emacs/hexl to hex-edit the info > into place). pdisk seemed to think the partition map
Re: Installing RC1 on a 8600
Josh Bonczkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I downloaded the RC1 ISOs over the weekend and attempted an install > last night. I'm very glad I started to read the old messages of > this list yesterday through the archives as it helped me get past > a few problems. > > First, the supplied kernel images allowed me to boot mostly properly. > Because this is an older SCSI machine, I had to load two modules by hand. > One was for the SCSI controlled itself (I don't remember the name). The > other was the MESH module. Once both of these modules were loaded > the SCSI CD was found and the installation would begin. Same here, although I only needed to load the MESH module. I've got a PowerTower Pro 200 (604e-based clone with the same guts as the Apple 9600, IIRC). I used the RC1 CD's, the supplied 2.4 kernel and ramdisk image "all.gz". > Now we get to my problems. The display during the install is awful > in one of two ways depending on if I check the 'Force video' option on > BootX. I either get a nice looking display but the ADB mouse responds > extremely slowly or I get a squished display with odd colors, the images > wrap strangely on the screen, but the mouse functions fine. When the > mouse is unresponsive, the keyboard also responds poorly (very, very > slow). I saw this too. I'm not sure, but I think that X drawing performance is also horrible. It takes a couple/few minutes for the Mandrake install screen to show up with the language selection step. I'm installing off of a Yamaha 8x4x24 CDRW, but it doesn't look like that could be the bottleneck. FWIW, I have an IMS TwinTurbo 4M video card. I've always had issues with the video driver. I usually run in 8-bit 1280x1024 on my Sony 20" Multiscan with the following kernel args: video=imsttb:vmode:20,cmode:8 -mach64 I've run both with and without the "No video driver" checked, and with and without the above kernel args. > I get the same behavior with the on board (Chaos) controller as well as > with a Matrox Millenium II PCI card. Well, I'm glad it isn't just *my* video card, since there aren't that many of them around it seems, and it doesn't seem likely that I'll get the fixes I need if the problem only occurs with them. > I also noticed several messages on the first console. The same message > kept scrolling by which basically said the default locale was set > incorrectly in a gtk module (perl I think?) and it could not find > the correct information. I doubt that has anything to do with the > problems I have but it could be something to clean up later. I get this too. Here's what it says, many times over on VT #1: ...Gdk WARNING **: locale not supported by C library at /usr/bin/perl-install/my_gtk.pm line 279 ...Gdk WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C at /usr/bin/perl-install/my_gtk.pm line 279 ...Gdk WARNING **: can not set locale modifiers at /usr/bin/perl-install/my_gtk.pm line 279 Also, on VT #3, I see the following messages: * warning rm of /usr/share/locale failed: No such file or directory * getFile VERSION: * Trying with server Xpmac * starting step 'selectLanguage' * getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en_US.po: * errorOpeningFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en_US.po * getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en.po: * errorOpeningFile Mandrake/mdkinst/usr/bin/perl-install/po/en.po Sure enough, those two files are missing on the RC1 install CD. And finally, on VT #4, I noticed the following kernel oops: [...] <6> Partition check: <6> sda: [mac] sda1 sda3 sda4 sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 sda9 sda10 Oops: Exception in kernel mode, sig: 4 <4> NIP: C01C3980 XER: 2100 LR: C027E7A4 SP: C8C53C60 REGS: C8C53BB0 TRAP: 0700 <4> MSR: 00089032 EE: 1 PR: 0 FP: 0 ME: 1 IR/DR: 11 <4> TASK = C8C52000 [20] 'insmod_' Last syscall: 128 [...] I doubt this is related to the horribly slow X performance, but it looks wrong, particularly since it never seems to get to checking partitions the other disks (I've got 2 other hard drives at sdb and sdc). Admittedly, I initialized the Mac partition map for this physical drive using the recipe I saw somewhere (dd the 1st 16 blocks from the raw device /dev/sda and use emacs/hexl to hex-edit the info into place). pdisk seemed to think the partition map was ok enough to work on, so I assumed everything was fine. Was that too hasty a conclusion? On the other hand, aren't I suppose to get a shell on VT #2? I don't see one. Perhaps this is the reason? - > "Smooth Jazz" is no jazz at all... < > Dr. Robert M. Fuhrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > IBM T.J. Watson Research Center < -
Re: Installing RC1 on a 8600
On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Damian's Mailer wrote: > At 09:48 21/08/2001, you wrote: > >Hey everyone. > > > >Now we get to my problems. The display during the install is awful > >in one of two ways depending on if I check the 'Force video' option on > >BootX. I either get a nice looking display but the ADB mouse responds > >extremely slowly or I get a squished display with odd colors, the images > >wrap strangely on the screen, but the mouse functions fine. When the > >mouse is unresponsive, the keyboard also responds poorly (very, very > >slow). > > I got the display problem using an early Bondi Blue iMac, with a meager 2MB > video display and 32MB of system memory. It appears that the problem > stemmed from selecting a video resolution that the machine did not > appreciate. Initially I Chose 800x600x32bit, and it gave a screen in grey > 1 screen height and 4 screen widths wide. The problem was solved by > running DrakConf and setting the video colour level to 16 bit on my > particular machine. I may be missing something, but it sounds like you encountered your problem after having installed RC1 and rebooted. I am encountering this display problem during my install. They could both be related and perhaps fixed in similar ways. I'm just unfamiliar with the full install process for Mandrake. How would I start up the graphical installer by hand? Is there a console fallback mode I can select through BootX using a provided option? This would at least allow me to install the build and then worry about X later if I want to. > > >I also noticed several messages on the first console. The same message > >kept scrolling by which basically said the default locale was set > >incorrectly in a gtk module (perl I think?) and it could not find > >the correct information. I doubt that has anything to do with the > >problems I have but it could be something to clean up later. > > I also had this on an initial install after choosing the UK location. I > defaulted to US on the next install and the error went away. I didn't not > any real problems apart from the error messages though. At the point I see the errors, I have not selected any locations or country codes. I agree that it does not appear to have a real effect that I can tell. > > Damian. > >
Re: Installing RC1 on a 8600
At 09:48 21/08/2001, you wrote: >Hey everyone. > >Now we get to my problems. The display during the install is awful >in one of two ways depending on if I check the 'Force video' option on >BootX. I either get a nice looking display but the ADB mouse responds >extremely slowly or I get a squished display with odd colors, the images >wrap strangely on the screen, but the mouse functions fine. When the >mouse is unresponsive, the keyboard also responds poorly (very, very >slow). I got the display problem using an early Bondi Blue iMac, with a meager 2MB video display and 32MB of system memory. It appears that the problem stemmed from selecting a video resolution that the machine did not appreciate. Initially I Chose 800x600x32bit, and it gave a screen in grey 1 screen height and 4 screen widths wide. The problem was solved by running DrakConf and setting the video colour level to 16 bit on my particular machine. >I also noticed several messages on the first console. The same message >kept scrolling by which basically said the default locale was set >incorrectly in a gtk module (perl I think?) and it could not find >the correct information. I doubt that has anything to do with the >problems I have but it could be something to clean up later. I also had this on an initial install after choosing the UK location. I defaulted to US on the next install and the error went away. I didn't not any real problems apart from the error messages though. Damian.
