Re: your mail

[Andrei Popescu]

On Wed,30.Jul.08, 08:07:55, M. Piscaer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times but 
> they dont reach the destination.
 
Well, this one did. You might want to write a (good) subject for your 
mail, otherwise some software might consider your mail as spam and also  
subscribe to http://lists.debian.org/whitelist

Regards,
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Re:

[Pavlos Parissis]

Hoi,

> Hi,
> 
> I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times but 
> they dont reach the destination.

Well I got this! So it works! BTW you should put a subject on your mails.


Cheers,
Pavlos



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Re: [OT perhaps] Any way to restore Iceweasel 2 behavior in the Navigation bar?

[Bob Cox]

On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 08:35:56 -0400, Patrick Wiseman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote: 

> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Brian Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]

> > I've seen lots of people complain about the awesomebar in fx3, but they
> > usually do it immediately after noticing it without giving it a chance.
> 
> I dislike it.  No doubt I'll get used to it, probably by ignoring it.

Maybe because of this but mostly because of several other irritations,
the latest of which was with .pdf files causing occasional segfaults, I
purged Iceweasel 3 and replaced it with Iceweasel 2.0.0.16 (and my,
fortunately, backed up pre-IW3 ~/.mozilla directory).

I had not thought IW3 was especially slow, despite having read various
tales of woe on this list and elsewhere, but returning to IW2 was like a
breath of fresh air.  It just seems much more nimble and responsive.

Presumably at some point FF2/IW2 will cease to be supported, but I'll
stick with it for the time being.

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Re: your mail

[Sebastian Günther]

* M. Piscaer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [30.07.08 08:09]:
> Hi,
> 
> I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times 
> but they dont reach the destination. 
> 

Well, I think maybe the Spam Filter was hitting you:

This Mail obviously barely came through:

> X-Virus-Scanned: at lists.debian.org with policy bank en-ht
> X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=2.406 tagged_above=3.6 required=5.3
> tests=[LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=2.499,
> MISSING_SUBJECT=2.307, NOSUBJECT=2.5, RDNS_NONE=0.1]
> X-Rc-Virus: 2007-09-13_01
> X-Rc-Spam: 2007-10-04_01


Maybe you should use a MUA, which is a little less sloppy about 
formating an email.

> Regards,
> 
> M. Piscaer

HTH
Sebastian

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Network Bandwidth Monitoring

[janskey]

Hi All,

Is there a tool that can monitor bandwidth consumed on a specific user? For 
example, in my flat network where:

internet->cisco router->firewall->linux/windows clients & servers

I want to monitor a client or want to know who's downloading stuff to
the internet or internal network. I want also to monitor or specify a
specific bandwidth that he can use so that our internet will not slow.
Does Squid helps? Any advice? Thanks.
 cheers,

janskey



  

Re: New Graphics Adaptor (a bit off topic?)

[Magnus Pedersen]

Allan Wind wrote:

On 2008-07-29T14:03:43, Steve C. Lamb wrote:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:47:52PM -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote:

Yes. And I confirmed that the settings are saved.  (Its not a stupid
question.  There aren't any stupid questions!!!)

If a chicken-and-a-half lays an egg-and-a-half in a day-and-a-half how
long does it take a man with one wooden leg to kick the seeds out of a dill
pickle?


42 days.


always 42
/Magnus


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xrandr1.2 in etch

[Lubos Vrbka]

hi guys,

is there any possibility to get xrandr1.2 in etch, other than upgrading 
to lenny? i am a bit afraid of 'selectively' upgrading only xorg, since 
in my opinion, it might break too many things (due to xorg/libraries

dependencies) - or would you recommend taking this route?

the problem is that the version 1.1 of randr doesn't support all the 
nifty features the new intel xorg driver offers - i think that, e.g., 
this guy describes the same problem

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/intel-driver-with-xrandr-multiple-displays-not-detectedreported-644348/

thanks for any hints.

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Re: New Graphics Adaptor (a bit off topic?)

[Owen Townend]

2008/7/30 Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> * Mark Neidorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jul 29 13:49 -0500]:
>> On Tuesday 29 July 2008 02:39 pm, H.S. wrote:
>> > Mark Neidorff wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 01:21 pm, Steve C. Lamb wrote:
>> > >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:18:55PM -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote:
>> > >>> Can anyone tell me what additional steps I need to take to get video
>> > >>> to output to the PCIe adaptor?

Hey,

Another possibility is that simply having a monitor connected to the
onboard plug is causing the trouble, can you get video with a monitor
_only_ plugged into the new adapter?

cheers,
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Re: your mail

[M. Piscaer]

M. Piscaer schreef:

Hi,

I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times but they 
dont reach the destination.

Regards,

M. Piscaer
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Hi,

First of all, thank you for giving an good reaction. In the feature i 
will use an subject. I did forgot to fill it out.


I looked in the source of the email, at the SPAM header, so that i can 
see whats going wrong. Most of the failures that i saw are corrected. 
For the sloppy MTU i use, i will contact the creators for it, in the 
meanwille i try to use an another client. Also i have subscript for the 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


I hope that next time my message will go thru.

Thank you

Regards,

Michiel Piscaer


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Re: your mail

[Andrei Popescu]

On Wed,30.Jul.08, 10:21:20, M. Piscaer wrote:

> I hope that next time my message will go thru.

If you still have troubles you should write to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: xrandr1.2 in etch

[Andrei Popescu]

On Wed,30.Jul.08, 10:16:49, Lubos Vrbka wrote:
> hi guys,
>
> is there any possibility to get xrandr1.2 in etch, other than upgrading to 
> lenny? i am a bit afraid of 'selectively' upgrading only xorg, since in my 
> opinion, it might break too many things (due to xorg/libraries
> dependencies) - or would you recommend taking this route?

Did you try backports?

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Network Bandwidth Monitoring

[M. Piscaer]

janskey schreef:

Hi All,

Is there a tool that can monitor bandwidth consumed on a specific user? 
For example, in my flat network where:


internet->cisco router->firewall->linux/windows clients & servers

I want to monitor a client or want to know who's downloading stuff to 
the internet or internal network. I want also to monitor or specify a 
specific bandwidth that he can use so that our internet will not slow. 
Does Squid helps? Any advice? Thanks.
 
cheers,


janskey




Hi Janskey,

What for an firewall do you use, an linux system with iptables on it?

If that is the case you can use that to monitor your users.

Regards,

M. Piscaer


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Re: Network Bandwidth Monitoring

[M. Piscaer]

janskey schreef:

Hi All,

Is there a tool that can monitor bandwidth consumed on a specific user? 
For example, in my flat network where:


internet->cisco router->firewall->linux/windows clients & servers

I want to monitor a client or want to know who's downloading stuff to 
the internet or internal network. I want also to monitor or specify a 
specific bandwidth that he can use so that our internet will not slow. 
Does Squid helps? Any advice? Thanks.
 
cheers,


janskey



Hi Janskey,

What for an firewall do you use, an linux system with iptables on it?

If that is the case you can use that to monitor your users.

Regards,

M. Piscaer


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Lenny Net Installer issue

[Martin Richardson]

Hi everyone,
   I am trying to install Lenny on my workstation. I 
have burnt a net install image to disc (LennyBeta2). My pc will not boot 
on this disc. I get the message that I have a non system disc. If I use 
a second cdrom drive that is in my workstation I get the same error 
message. If I boot it on my wifes pc it is OK. So I put an old FreeBSD 
installation disc in my drive and reboot, it will boot . Why won't the 
lenny disc boot on my workstation???


Martin.


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Re: xrandr1.2 in etch

[Lubos Vrbka]

is there any possibility to get xrandr1.2 in etch, ... 

Did you try backports?
hm, that would probably be a possibility. actually, do you suggest 
installing the whole xbase-clients from backports, or just downloading 
the package, unpacking, and using the new xrandr 1.2 binary?


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Re: Lenny Net Installer issue

[Bob Cox]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 19:27:00 +1000, Martin Richardson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote: 

> Hi everyone,
>I am trying to install Lenny on my workstation. I  
> have burnt a net install image to disc (LennyBeta2). My pc will not boot  
> on this disc. I get the message that I have a non system disc. If I use  
> a second cdrom drive that is in my workstation I get the same error  
> message. If I boot it on my wifes pc it is OK. So I put an old FreeBSD  
> installation disc in my drive and reboot, it will boot . Why won't the  
> lenny disc boot on my workstation???
>
> Martin.

Hi Martin

You say your new Lenny CD boots on your wife's PC, so it would appear
you have correctly burnt the ISO image.

You also say that an old FreeBSD CD boots on your workstation, which in
turn suggests that your workstation hardware and BIOS settings are ok.

So this could be an intermittent fault (unlikely) or more probably some
sort of incompatibility issue between your workstation's hardware and
the CD.

Did you use a re-writable (RW) CD rather than a normal 'one use' CD?
Maybe your hardware is fussy in this respect.  Or is it a +R versus -R
problem?  All highly unlikely, but you do seem to have already
eliminated the more obvious things.

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Re:Network Bandwidth Monitoring

[Lish]

If you use squid, there are some tools which can analyze squid's logs
to supply the download report. Of course some protocols cannt be
squided and you cannt get their reports.

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Re: Lenny Net Installer issue

[Martin Richardson]

Hi Bob,
   thankyou for the reply.
I have tried a cd-r and dvd-r with the same result. I can boot into my 
current etch installation that is on my workstation and load the disc, 
and then I am able to browse it, so I am assuming that it burnt OK. This 
is bizarre.


Cheers, Martin.

Bob Cox wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 19:27:00 +1000, Martin Richardson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 

  

Hi everyone,
   I am trying to install Lenny on my workstation. I  
have burnt a net install image to disc (LennyBeta2). My pc will not boot  
on this disc. I get the message that I have a non system disc. If I use  
a second cdrom drive that is in my workstation I get the same error  
message. If I boot it on my wifes pc it is OK. So I put an old FreeBSD  
installation disc in my drive and reboot, it will boot . Why won't the  
lenny disc boot on my workstation???


Martin.



Hi Martin

You say your new Lenny CD boots on your wife's PC, so it would appear
you have correctly burnt the ISO image.

You also say that an old FreeBSD CD boots on your workstation, which in
turn suggests that your workstation hardware and BIOS settings are ok.

So this could be an intermittent fault (unlikely) or more probably some
sort of incompatibility issue between your workstation's hardware and
the CD.

Did you use a re-writable (RW) CD rather than a normal 'one use' CD?
Maybe your hardware is fussy in this respect.  Or is it a +R versus -R
problem?  All highly unlikely, but you do seem to have already
eliminated the more obvious things.

  



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Re: Sometimes only 1 desktop and no window border in KDE

[Anton Liaukevich]

Mumia W.. wrote:

On 07/29/2008 05:41 AM, Anton Liaukevich wrote:
Thank you. Actually problem is in kwin. When KDE works good "pgrep 
kwin" outputs process IDs of loaded kwins, otherwise 'pgrep kwin' 
outputs nothing. After I run "kwin &" command KDE begins to work good 
(4 destops and border of the windows appears).


Nevertheless, I want to correct this bug on my machine so that kwin 
never dye. Prompt me, please, how to do this.


Must I report this bug? Where?




Enable corefiles by setting the appropriate "ulimit" before entering 
KDE; read "man ulimit"; when you enter KDE, perform a "killall kwin" and 
then do "kwin &" from within an X-terminal. That should allow messages 
from kwin to be displayed on the terminal.


When kwin crashes, it might display a stacktrace on the terminal, and 
you can mail both the stacktrace and corefile to the maintainers. The 
authors and maintainers for kwin can be found from "apt-get show kwin" 
and the file /usr/share/doc/kwin/copyright.


Good luck.

PS.
It would be better to post the corefile on your web-site and e-mail a 
link to it to the maintainers/developers since corefiles can be big.



Sorry. I'm novice at Linux. Please, explain how to use ulimit correctly 
and what is corefiles.


I have run "killall kwin" command in "konsole" x-terminal but:

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kwin: no process killed

Then I haven't seen any message from kwin on my terminal (after running 
"kwin &" command).




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Re: Sometimes only 1 desktop and no window border in KDE

[Anton Liaukevich]

Anton Liaukevich wrote:

Mumia W.. wrote:

On 07/29/2008 05:41 AM, Anton Liaukevich wrote:
Thank you. Actually problem is in kwin. When KDE works good "pgrep 
kwin" outputs process IDs of loaded kwins, otherwise 'pgrep kwin' 
outputs nothing. After I run "kwin &" command KDE begins to work good 
(4 destops and border of the windows appears).


Nevertheless, I want to correct this bug on my machine so that kwin 
never dye. Prompt me, please, how to do this.


Must I report this bug? Where?




Enable corefiles by setting the appropriate "ulimit" before entering 
KDE; read "man ulimit"; when you enter KDE, perform a "killall kwin" 
and then do "kwin &" from within an X-terminal. That should allow 
messages from kwin to be displayed on the terminal.


When kwin crashes, it might display a stacktrace on the terminal, and 
you can mail both the stacktrace and corefile to the maintainers. The 
authors and maintainers for kwin can be found from "apt-get show kwin" 
and the file /usr/share/doc/kwin/copyright.


Good luck.

PS.
It would be better to post the corefile on your web-site and e-mail a 
link to it to the maintainers/developers since corefiles can be big.



Sorry. I'm novice at Linux. Please, explain how to use ulimit correctly 
and what is corefiles.


I have run "killall kwin" command in "konsole" x-terminal but:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ killall kwin
kwin: no process killed

Then I haven't seen any message from kwin on my terminal (after running 
"kwin &" command).



Now I have seen strange message in konsole:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kwin: X_SetInputFocus(0x1e0057c): BadMatch (invalid 
parameter attributes)



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Re: New Graphics Adaptor (a bit off topic?)

[Mark Neidorff]

On Wednesday 30 July 2008 04:19 am, Owen Townend wrote:
> 2008/7/30 Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > * Mark Neidorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jul 29 13:49 -0500]:
> >> On Tuesday 29 July 2008 02:39 pm, H.S. wrote:
> >> > Mark Neidorff wrote:
> >> > > On Tuesday 29 July 2008 01:21 pm, Steve C. Lamb wrote:
> >> > >> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:18:55PM -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> >> > >>> Can anyone tell me what additional steps I need to take to get
> >> > >>> video to output to the PCIe adaptor?
>
> Hey,
>
> Another possibility is that simply having a monitor connected to the
> onboard plug is causing the trouble, can you get video with a monitor
> _only_ plugged into the new adapter?
>
That's what I tried first. Didn't work.

Thanks,
Mark


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Re: xrandr1.2 in etch

[Lubos Vrbka]

Did you try backports?

actually, the backports xbase-clients
xbase-clients_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6~bpo.4_i386.deb
contains the old version of xrandr (1.1) as well... so the upgrade seems 
to be the only way to go...


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kdeprintd error

[Paul Cartwright]

ok, I'm not sure what to fix. My wife tried to print an email message, and she 
gets this error:

A print error occurred. Error message received from system:

Unable to start child print process. The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could 
not be contacted. Check that this server is running.




on My local account, I pull up kmail, and print any message I want. Whats 
wrong and how do I fix it?
I am using cups, and it is running.
running Lenny, with latest updates.

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Basic info for the starting up of a server

[Sauro Cesaretti]

Hello,

I'm a new user of debian and I'd like to ask you some advices to configure
and start up a small linux server,
In particular, I'd like to integrate a firewall that will protect the
internal LAN with the rest of the internet, a DHCP server, a samba server
and a mail server.
the server is situated inside my house and I can reach it with one static ip
address from the LAN
and with one DynDns name from internet.
I'd like also to know how to configure a mail server with some accoutns that
I can reach
with the dyndns name.
Could you suggest me some good material to read?
and then, Could you indicate me if there are good system to administer
and configure the server with a web interface?
I heard something about webmin but I don't know if it's the best one.
Thank you in advance for all information
regards, Sauro



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Re: Network Bandwidth Monitoring

[Paul Cartwright]

On Wed July 30 2008, janskey wrote:
> Is there a tool that can monitor bandwidth consumed on a specific user? For
> example, in my flat network where:
>
> internet->cisco router->firewall->linux/windows clients & servers

have you tried ntop ?

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Re: Re: gconfd errors in /var/log/messages

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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

[kj]

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/29/08 15:01, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56

What info for motherboard you need? Some command's output?
I don't know the model or company - it's laptop.


Ah, no, I'm specifically looking for a desktop mobo.  With a strong 
preference for one with PCIe slots which I can add a video card to.


The goal is a low-power (thus quiet) desktop for my kids that does well 
at 3D and video playback (i.e., xv support).  I'm thinking something 
passively cooled in the NVIDIA 7300 range.  The desktop form factor 
would also allow for cheaper RAM and 3.5" hard optical drives.




Hi Ron,

I missed the first part of the thread, so I'm assuming you have a 
Turion64 of some flavour too.  I am looking for this too, and all I have 
found so far, was an out-of-production Albatron Mini-ITX board.  Mine is 
a single core, so you may have a little more luck, but there are very 
few manufacturers who specify Turion64(_x2) compatibility, even if the 
boards are compatible.


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Re: xrandr1.2 in etch

[Thomas Preud'homme]

The Wednesday 30 July 2008 13:26:09 Lubos Vrbka, you wrote :
> > Did you try backports?
>
> actually, the backports xbase-clients
>   xbase-clients_6.9.0.dfsg.1-6~bpo.4_i386.deb
> contains the old version of xrandr (1.1) as well... so the upgrade seems
> to be the only way to go...
>
> best,
>
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You could try making your own backport. apt-get build-dep  && 
apt-get source -b 

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Accent chars instead of VGA graphics from Ubuntu system (terminal via ssh)

[Nate Bargmann]

Yeah, the subject is too short.  I posted the following on the Ubuntu
forums with no reply so I thought I'd try our group.

Having just installed Mythbuntu 8.04.1 onto a recently procured
computer, I'm doing tasks via ssh. I have several Debian Sid boxes and
I've not run into this issue until I began using the Mythbuntu box.  
 
What I see are VGA style graphics characters replaced by accented
alphabet letters. Here is a snapshot of Midnight Commander: 
 
http://n0nb.us/pix/snap4.jpg

Ordinarily it appears as this on the rest of my machines:
 
http://n0nb.us/pix/snap5.jpg

While I'm inclined to think it's a terminal issue, I suppose it could
be something else such as locale? Also, it's not just Midnight
Commander as I saw the same thing with Aptitude.  
 
For the record I get the same strange characters when logging into the
Mythbuntu box remotely from a Linux console on my Debian desktop
machine.

- Nate >>

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Re: Accent chars instead of VGA graphics from Ubuntu system (terminal via ssh)

[Patrick Ouellette]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 07:15:55AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> 
> Having just installed Mythbuntu 8.04.1 onto a recently procured
> computer, I'm doing tasks via ssh. I have several Debian Sid boxes and
> I've not run into this issue until I began using the Mythbuntu box.  
>  
> What I see are VGA style graphics characters replaced by accented
> alphabet letters. Here is a snapshot of Midnight Commander: 

After the SSH terminal opens, did you try replacing the shell or opening
a new xterm with a unicode enabled terminal (xterm -u8 for example)?

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fortune not working

[Peter Daum]

certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system (mainly Etch,
I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I trace it, I
can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is obviously just
for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error.

Any ideas?
 Peter


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Re: Does anybody know a mailer that handles contact lists better than evolution???

[Frank Charles Gallacher]

On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 12:48 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> On 07/28/08 11:38, Shachar Or wrote:
> > On Monday 28 July 2008 19:34, Frank Charles Gallacher wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> I am running Evolution 2.6.3 on "etch" kernel 2.6.18-6-686.
> >>
> >> I trying to import a list of email adresses in .CSV format.
> >> The import works OK, but I'm having trouble creating a contact list.
> >> I can select all the emails, but doing a "drag and drop" just does not
> >> want to work...
> >>
> >> Can anyone help me out here???
> > 
> > Try kaddressbook.
> 
> Do KDE apps mesh well with GNOME apps?

I actually sorted this one myself:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apropos vcard
csv2vcard (1)- Convert a CSV-formatted list of contacts to
vCards
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ csv2vcard

Takes a CSV-formatted list of contacts from Outlook and attempts to
convert it into a list of VCards suitable for import into Evolution.

Usage: /usr/bin/csv2vcard [infile outfile]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

(Sorry, it was getting a bit late, had I been less tired I would have
been thinking quicker...)


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Re: fortune not working

[Eugene V. Lyubimkin]

Peter Daum wrote:
> certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system
> (mainly Etch,
> I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I trace
> it, I
> can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is obviously
> just
> for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error.
> 
> Any ideas?
>  Peter
> 
> 
What fortunes-* package are installed?

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Re: fortune not working

[Mark Allums]

Peter Daum wrote:
certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system 
(mainly Etch,
I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I trace 
it, I
can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is obviously 
just

for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error.

Any ideas?
 Peter




I bet it is producing output *somewhere*, the question is *where*.


Mark Allums


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Re: fortune not working

[Mark Allums]

Peter Daum wrote:
certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system 
(mainly Etch,
I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I trace 
it, I
can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is obviously 
just

for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error.

Any ideas?
 Peter




Sorry, sent that last post before I was ready.

Try redirecting the output to a file and the check the file.  Maybe the 
problem is that the output is not going where you think it should.



Mark Allums


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Re: Software to send group SMS

[Santanu Chatterjee]

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Mark Allums <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
> ...Perhaps you should post this back to the list itself and ask
> again.

Oops. Sorry. I meant to post my reply to the list itself, but sent it
to your mail
address (because of the return path I guess)

Thanks for your response though.

Please keep sending your (I mean everybody) suggestions.
In the meantime, I will try the gammu mailing list and google of course.

Regards,
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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

[kj]

kj wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/29/08 15:01, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56

What info for motherboard you need? Some command's output?
I don't know the model or company - it's laptop.


Ah, no, I'm specifically looking for a desktop mobo.  With a strong 
preference for one with PCIe slots which I can add a video card to.


The goal is a low-power (thus quiet) desktop for my kids that does 
well at 3D and video playback (i.e., xv support).  I'm thinking 
something passively cooled in the NVIDIA 7300 range.  The desktop form 
factor would also allow for cheaper RAM and 3.5" hard optical drives.




Hi Ron,

I missed the first part of the thread, so I'm assuming you have a 
Turion64 of some flavour too.  I am looking for this too, and all I have 
found so far, was an out-of-production Albatron Mini-ITX board.  Mine is 
a single core, so you may have a little more luck, but there are very 
few manufacturers who specify Turion64(_x2) compatibility, even if the 
boards are compatible.


--kj





This is the newer (AM2) version of the one I was thinking of:
http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/Product/MB/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specification&no=239

Not quite what you're looking for but as close as I've been able to get 
to it.


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Re: Accent chars instead of VGA graphics from Ubuntu system (terminal via ssh)

[Osamu Aoki]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 07:15:55AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Yeah, the subject is too short.  I posted the following on the Ubuntu
> forums with no reply so I thought I'd try our group.
> 
> Having just installed Mythbuntu 8.04.1 onto a recently procured
> computer, I'm doing tasks via ssh. I have several Debian Sid boxes and
> I've not run into this issue until I began using the Mythbuntu box.  
>  
> What I see are VGA style graphics characters replaced by accented
> alphabet letters. Here is a snapshot of Midnight Commander: 
>  
> http://n0nb.us/pix/snap4.jpg

I see.

> Ordinarily it appears as this on the rest of my machines:
>  
> http://n0nb.us/pix/snap5.jpg
> 
> While I'm inclined to think it's a terminal issue, I suppose it could
> be something else such as locale? Also, it's not just Midnight
> Commander as I saw the same thing with Aptitude.  
>  
> For the record I get the same strange characters when logging into the
> Mythbuntu box remotely from a Linux console on my Debian desktop
> machine.

What I see is charater encoding issue.  Terminal does not understand
UTF-8 (That is Mythbuntu 8.04 problem) while it looks like you are
runing sid in en_US.UTF-8 or so.

Check encoding of both system.

Try work around problem using
 $ mc -a
or
 $ LANG=C mc -a
or something like this.


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Re: [OT perhaps] Any way to restore Iceweasel 2 behavior in the Navigation bar?

[Michael Marsh]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe because of this but mostly because of several other irritations,
> the latest of which was with .pdf files causing occasional segfaults, I
> purged Iceweasel 3 and replaced it with Iceweasel 2.0.0.16 (and my,
> fortunately, backed up pre-IW3 ~/.mozilla directory).

I've always disabled the internal acroread plugin and let xpdf handle
pdf files for me.  It's faster and doesn't subject my browser to any
bad pdf reader behavior.  I also find that the reader plugin makes too
ineffective use of available screen space.

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Re: [OT] Turion 64X2 desktop?

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/30/08 08:50, kj wrote:

kj wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/29/08 15:01, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:

AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-56

What info for motherboard you need? Some command's output?
I don't know the model or company - it's laptop.


Ah, no, I'm specifically looking for a desktop mobo.  With a strong 
preference for one with PCIe slots which I can add a video card to.


The goal is a low-power (thus quiet) desktop for my kids that does 
well at 3D and video playback (i.e., xv support).  I'm thinking 
something passively cooled in the NVIDIA 7300 range.  The desktop 
form factor would also allow for cheaper RAM and 3.5" hard optical 
drives.




Hi Ron,

I missed the first part of the thread, so I'm assuming you have a 
Turion64 of some flavour too.  I am looking for this too, and all I 
have found so far, was an out-of-production Albatron Mini-ITX board.  
Mine is a single core, so you may have a little more luck, but there 
are very few manufacturers who specify Turion64(_x2) compatibility, 
even if the boards are compatible.


--kj





This is the newer (AM2) version of the one I was thinking of:
http://www.albatron.com.tw/English/Product/MB/pro_detail.asp?rlink=Specification&no=239 



Not quite what you're looking for but as close as I've been able to get 
to it.


Thanks.  No I don't actually have a Turion, and you have all the 
important bits of the thread... :)


How can one tell whether a mobo is surreptitiously compatible with 
current Turion64 or Turion64x2 CPUs?


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2.6.25 Issues

[David Baron]

1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the release 
candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any effect, the thing 
boots OK, but 

2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets IDE 
canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored using hdparm 
but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file system is damaged. There 
may, in fact, be problems with the drive involved, but these problems rarely 
if ever occur in 2.6.23.

I think   2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.


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kernel-image-2.6-k7 and Shorewall firewall

[Account for Debian group mail]

Hello,

We just did an upgrade on one of our etch servers. It installed a bunch
of new updates including a kernel-image 2.6.18-6-k7. This computer is
running the Shorewall Firewall. Everything seemed to be working OK till we
tried to ping the server.

The firewall is set to let in pings every second:

>From "rules" file inside shorewall - this has always worked:
ACCEPT net $FW icmp8   -   -
   1/sec

What iptables-save shows:
-A net2fw -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 8 -m limit --limit 1/sec -j ACCEPT
-A net2fw -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 0 -m limit --limit 1/sec -j ACCEPT

Should work!

What syslog shows:
Jul 30 08:12:19 spare kernel: Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:14:2a:4a:3c:cf:xx:xx:xx:25:1c:00:08:00 SRC=20x.10x.xxx.11
DST=20x.10x.xxx.38 LEN=84 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=ICMP
TYPE=8 CODE=0 ID=32799 SEQ=8
(numbers change to protect the innocent)

I change the "rules" file to:

ACCEPT net $FW icmp8   -   -

so it just accepts pings and it works just fine.

Seems like something has changed in this new kernel-image. Is it possible
that 1 second in the iptables stuff is no longer 1 second? Do I need to
decrease or increase the time limit? Anyone else run into this? I would
still like to limit the ping rates.

Thanks,

Ken



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Re: 2.6.25 Issues

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/30/08 10:02, David Baron wrote:
1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the release 
candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any effect, the thing 
boots OK, but 


2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets IDE 
canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored using hdparm 
but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file system is damaged. There 
may, in fact, be problems with the drive involved, but these problems rarely 
if ever occur in 2.6.23.


It's either the hardware or the chipset, because the nvidia MCP55 
chipset with sata_nv and jmicron drivers havebeen working perfectly 
for me so far.



I think   2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.


Add this to your sources.list and build a 2.6.26 kernel:

deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main

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Re: ATI FireGL V5200, proprietary and open source drivers

[Kelly Clowers]

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 07/29/08 18:07, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/29/08 16:00, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>>
 On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:

> On 07/29/08 11:38, Jim McCloskey wrote:
>
>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> |>  Does this infer that you need a graphical console, DRM or a kernel
>> |>  frame buffer?
>>
>> Not as far as I can tell. The script checks for various dependencies
>> (git, headers for
>> the running kernel, the kernel building packages and so on) but I
>> can't
>> see that it checks
>> kernel configuration options (assuming that that was what you had in
>> mind),
>>
> Is CONFIG_DRM set in /boot/config-2.6* ?
>

 The Direct Render Manager has to be active for 3D to work. I think 2D
 xrender and
 XAA should work fine, but I believe that "desktop effects" and compiz
 require 3D.
 EXA should work, but will likely be *very* slow without DRM/DRI. XV
 should
 work
 fine without DRM/DRI, but I am not sure about XVmc.

 Do you not use DRM/DRI?

>>> Not needed with  vesa, nv or nvidia drivers.  3D, aiglx and xvmc all work
>>> like a charm with the nvidia binary driver.
>>>
>>
>> Interesting, it looks like the nvidia binary drivers do their own thing.
>> And of
>> course vesa and nv have no 3D.
>>
>
> Do you boot directly into [xkg]dm?


I don't use *DMs (am I correctly remembering that you don't either?). I boot
to the cli and run xstart.sh, which lets me choose which WM I want to use.
These days I use awesome 3.0pre-alpha (git). Why do you ask?


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers

Re: your mail

[Steve C. Lamb]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:03:23AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Wed,30.Jul.08, 08:07:55, M. Piscaer wrote:
> > Hi,
 
> > I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times but
> > they dont reach the destination.
  
> Well, this one did. You might want to write a (good) subject for your mail,
> otherwise some software might consider your mail as spam 

For example his message was the reason for the latest "you bounced
messages from us!" notification from lists.debian.org.  :/

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Re: ATI FireGL V5200, proprietary and open source drivers

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/30/08 10:55, Kelly Clowers wrote:

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


[snip]

Do you boot directly into [xkg]dm?



I don't use *DMs (am I correctly remembering that you don't either?). I boot
to the cli and run xstart.sh, which lets me choose which WM I want to use.
These days I use awesome 3.0pre-alpha (git). Why do you ask?


That's good to know.  For some reason, many years ago I got the 
impression that DRI/DRM was GUI-only, and I think that text boot is 
valuable since "it should Just Work" no matter what.


(BTW, when I originally replied to this email after viewing it in 
html mode, all nesting > characters were stripped out.  I had to go 
back and view as text in order to get nesting back in this mail. 
Weird...)


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Re: pc doesn't start

[Wackojacko]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 05:03:45PM +0100, Wackojacko wrote:

Brian McKee wrote:

On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Claudius Hubig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"Lóránd Erik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

...and the pc is in a wooden box:D but the connector is grounded, could that
be the problem?

I have a similiar problem with my desktop PC: After running for a
while and then being shut down, it wont turn on again. Waiting a few
minutes (quite a few in fact, maybe an hour) and the problem is
solved again.

Both of you could try unplugging it for ten seconds.  I have seen a
couple of units that behave that way.  It seems to be the
motherboard/BIOS as replacing the PSU on one of units I have that
behaves that way didn't change anything.


...
Also try replacing the BIOS battery back up.  I seem to remember reading  
on this list about similar problems being solved that way.  I think  
Andrew S-W may have been involved in the thread, maybe even the OP, but  
I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong :)


Not sure what you're referring too by BIOS battery back up... 


PSU's have a pretty high failure rate, at least on a par with if not
worse than HD's. If you had a warning about voltage, and now the thing
doesn't work correctly, the first thing I'd suggest is testing or
replacing the PSU. Note though that a failing PSU could take other
stuff with it, so don't be surprised if it ends up being multiple
parts.

OP's PSU (or some other part) could merely be overheating in some odd
way that keeps it from powering back up until it's had time to cool
back down. 


I've found that investing in a battery backup helps with the life span
of PSU's. In fact the only ones I've had fail in a couple of years now
are the ones that aren't on battery backup. The battery backup
generally provide some power conditioning which helps minimize the
stress on the PSU. 


hth

A



I was refering to the coin cell that some motherboards have for keeping 
bios settings between reboots.


The OP mentioned that removing the BIOS battery for a few minutes helps 
the PC start so maybe it just gives the battery enough time to recover 
enough charge for the reboot.  Just a guess.


I was sure that you had had a problem like this with an older PC which 
was solved by replacing the coin cell.  Maybe my memory is just not what 
it used to be!!


HTH

Wackojacko


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Re: [OT perhaps] Any way to restore Iceweasel 2 behavior in the Navigation bar?

[Bob Cox]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:24:12 -0400, Michael Marsh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote: 

> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe because of this but mostly because of several other irritations,
> > the latest of which was with .pdf files causing occasional segfaults, I
> > purged Iceweasel 3 and replaced it with Iceweasel 2.0.0.16 (and my,
> > fortunately, backed up pre-IW3 ~/.mozilla directory).
> 
> I've always disabled the internal acroread plugin and let xpdf handle
> pdf files for me.  It's faster and doesn't subject my browser to any
> bad pdf reader behavior.  I also find that the reader plugin makes too
> ineffective use of available screen space.

Thank you Michael.  I have just been experimenting with your suggestion
(although using kpdf rather than xpdf) and it looks like a good idea.

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video output problem with xorg intel and etch

[Lubos Vrbka]

hi guys,

i am experiencing a 'funny' thing with the new etch intel xorg driver 
(the i810 works without problems when 915resolution is used). the 
machine i am using is a notebook with internal lcd and external lcd 
connected via dvi.


the computer is set up so, that the external monitor is the first thing 
tried by the bios - when it is not connected, then internal display is 
used. i never use both outputs at the same time.


with i810, x stays on the display that was active at the moment when x 
was started and correct (maximum allowed) resolution is used. with the 
intel driver, both outputs are activated (no matter which one was active 
before starting x) and a funny resolution issue is present. they cannot 
be switched off by the fn-magic any more.


the displays are
internal1280x800
external1280x1024

with intel driver, i get the internal display running at 1280x800, but 
the desktop size is 1280x1024 (i.e., virtual desktop is larger than the 
physical one) - the windowmanager then scrolls when i go 'over the 
border'. the external display, on the contrary, runs at lower resolution 
then desired (probably also 1280x800 - i am not sure about the exact 
resolution at the moment, and cannot test it), but the virtual desktop 
feature doesn't work here.


why does the system behave in this way? i'd be happy with the old 
behavior (run the x at the display that was active when x was started). 
this might probably have to do something with the randr support in the 
driver (which however doesn't work with etch due to old version of the 
underlying stuff - libraries, xrandr, ... - as discussed in another thread)


i would be grateful for any information on this. till this issue is 
solved, i'll probably stay with i810.


best,

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Re: Debian upgrade breaks djb stuff

[Eric d'Alibut]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Michael Sierchio
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's a bug in DJB's code.  `man errno`

If it were a bug in your brain, your altered neurology would see
things differently, and, perhaps, correctly. Do you have a bug in your
brain?

HEY! Apropos of nothing at all, did everyone see where THAT GENIUS rms
said, and I quote, "I am not a supporter of Linux . . ."?
http://allium.zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2008-July/012546.html

The fever swamp is heating up!

Have at it lads.

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Re: Basic info for the starting up of a server

[Shachar Or]

On Wednesday 30 July 2008 14:38, Sauro Cesaretti wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm a new user of debian and I'd like to ask you some advices to configure
> and start up a small linux server,
> In particular, I'd like to integrate a firewall that will protect the
> internal LAN with the rest of the internet, a DHCP server, a samba server
> and a mail server.
> the server is situated inside my house and I can reach it with one static
> ip address from the LAN
> and with one DynDns name from internet.
> I'd like also to know how to configure a mail server with some accoutns
> that I can reach
> with the dyndns name.
> Could you suggest me some good material to read?
> and then, Could you indicate me if there are good system to administer
> and configure the server with a web interface?
> I heard something about webmin but I don't know if it's the best one.
> Thank you in advance for all information
> regards, Sauro

For the DHCP server, I'd recommend to use Dnsmasq. Just install the dnsmasq 
package and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/dnsmasq .

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display on remote machines?

[abdelkader belahcene]

Hi,
I ve send this message many times and don't receive a correct answer !!?, I
hope that somebody gives me a hint.

I have a serveur running an application, to be simpler gnome-terminal, I
want to run on my serveur gnome-terminal and receive on a remote machine the
display,  in other word I want to redirect the omage to remote machine.
 On remote machine I disabled controle with *  xhost +,  on *serveur I
tried   *gnome-terminal  --display=**192.168.10**.10:0.0* ,  but it failed
with unknown display 192.168.10.10:0.0 ( which is my remote machine ),  I
tried  *export DISPLAY=192.168.10**.10:0.0   *then gnome-terminal, same
problem.

thanks for help

GFS ... cluster.conf doesn't exist

[Bob]

running debian etch:

I tried installing all gfs / cluster related packages, and found that
none of them created an /etc/cluster/cluster.conf file.

I also found at least 1 bug report regarding this, and an indication
that the bug was resolved on the newer versions of the packages which
are part of the lenny dist (or back-ported).

So - I downloaded all related and dependent packages in the newer
versions, and installed all of them, only to find the exact same
problem - NO /etc/cluster/cluster.conf file!!!

I'm less concerned about creating my own .conf file, than I am about
what else may NOT have happened during installation.

Has anyone else had any experience with GFS under debian?
If you were successful, what versions / packages did you use?
Are there any un-documented gotcha's / tip's you can offer?

TIA! -
Bob


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Re: to cluster or not? what's best solution for 2-node HA?

[Bob]

On Jul 28, 7:20 pm, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On 07/25/08 16:32, Bob wrote:
[SNIP]
>
> > So I'm really looking for the best open, linux based solution.  The
> > more & more I look into this, the more it seems to me like drbd v8
> > running in primary/primary config, over GFS might be the best way to
> > go...
>
> gfs is going to need some shared storage, I believe esx will do their
> virtual motion over lan as well.
>

Alex -
TX again for sharing your knowledge...

I also believe this to be correct (esx v-motion over lan).

FYI/FWIW:
I'm continuing to look for an open-source solution that emulates esx's
behavior - but using vmware-server-free version.
I currently believe that drbd 8 / heartbeat is the next best thing...

I'll post more information if I find something different...

Bob


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Re: display on remote machines?

[Shachar Or]

On Wednesday 30 July 2008 20:56, abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> Hi,
> I ve send this message many times and don't receive a correct answer !!?, I
> hope that somebody gives me a hint.
>
> I have a serveur running an application, to be simpler gnome-terminal, I
> want to run on my serveur gnome-terminal and receive on a remote machine
> the display,  in other word I want to redirect the omage to remote machine.
> On remote machine I disabled controle with *  xhost +,  on *serveur I tried
>   *gnome-terminal  --display=**192.168.10**.10:0.0* ,  but it failed with
> unknown display 192.168.10.10:0.0 ( which is my remote machine ),  I tried 
> *export DISPLAY=192.168.10**.10:0.0   *then gnome-terminal, same problem.

Just login to that server using ssh -X and perhaps -C also, and then launch 
the program from that shell.
>
> thanks for help

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RE: Re: your mail

[Michiel Piscaer]

-Original message-
From: Steve C. Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wed 07/30/08 18:00:58
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org; 
Subject: Re: your mail

> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:03:23AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Wed,30.Jul.08, 08:07:55, M. Piscaer wrote:
> > > Hi,
>  
> > > I have problems sending emails to this list. I tryed it several times but
> > > they dont reach the destination.
>   
> > Well, this one did. You might want to write a (good) subject for your mail,
> > otherwise some software might consider your mail as spam 
> 
> For example his message was the reason for the latest "you bounced
> messages from us!" notification from lists.debian.org.  :/


I didn't reseved this mail or anything like this, is it many that i graylist 
all of my incommimg mail first?

Regards,

Michiel Piscaer


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Re: 2.6.25 Issues

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/30/08 10:02, David Baron wrote:
1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the 
release candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any 
effect, the thing boots OK, but 


2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets 
IDE canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored 
using hdparm but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file 
system is damaged. There may, in fact, be problems with the drive 
involved, but these problems rarely if ever occur in 2.6.23.


It's either the hardware or the chipset, because the nvidia MCP55 
chipset with sata_nv and jmicron drivers havebeen working perfectly for 
me so far.



I think   2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.


Add this to your sources.list and build a 2.6.26 kernel:

deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main



Did you? I built a 2.6.26 from kernel.org.
Two items:
1. the NVidia driver 96.43-07 applies without having to patch anything
2. the VMware vmserver 1.0.6 needs update117c and then starting vmware 
gets an out-of-memory error.


Beyond that I am of the opinion that 2.6.26 (and 2.6.25) is stickier 
than 2.6.24, the last kernel that the -ck patch could be applied to.


Hugo


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Re: 2.6.25 Issues

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/30/08 14:51, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/30/08 10:02, David Baron wrote:
1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the 
release candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any 
effect, the thing boots OK, but 


2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets 
IDE canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored 
using hdparm but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file 
system is damaged. There may, in fact, be problems with the drive 
involved, but these problems rarely if ever occur in 2.6.23.


It's either the hardware or the chipset, because the nvidia MCP55 
chipset with sata_nv and jmicron drivers havebeen working perfectly 
for me so far.



I think   2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.


Add this to your sources.list and build a 2.6.26 kernel:

deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main



Did you? I built a 2.6.26 from kernel.org.
Two items:
1. the NVidia driver 96.43-07 applies without having to patch anything


That's pretty old.  Do you have a 52xx or 6xxx series card?

173.14.05 compiles perfectly...



I just realized that I haven't rebooted yet, and so am still running 
 a kernel from linux-source-2.6.25 v2.6.25-7.


gcc version 4.3.1 (Debian 4.3.1-6) builds nvidia 173.14.05 and runs 
it well.


2. the VMware vmserver 1.0.6 needs update117c and then starting vmware 
gets an out-of-memory error.


Can't comment on that since I don't run VMware.

Beyond that I am of the opinion that 2.6.26 (and 2.6.25) is stickier 
than 2.6.24, the last kernel that the -ck patch could be applied to.


It must be hardware incompatibility issues.  Life was so much easier 
in 1984...


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Nvidia GeForce FX5200 problems

[Frank McCormick]

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I have just spent a couple of hours trying to install the card in the
subject line in my computer which is running Debian Sid.

After changing the BIOS to reflect the new card (PCI) I ended up at a
black screen after GDM ran. Killing GDM (and X) got to to a command line
where I changed xorg.conf to use the Debian Nvidia driver (prior to trying
to install the Nvidia driver). No good. Blank screen again. So I tried
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. No good. At one point dpkg-reconfigure told
me I didn't have xserver-xorg installed!!  Has anyone else had problems
with this card? The only thing I didn't try was the VESA driver. Needless
to say I am back to Intel video for now. 

In addition to those problems, about an eighth of an inch is now missing
from the top of maximized windows on my LG LCD monitor. What have I done?
I have since tried the automatic adjustment on the monitor but it doesn't
help.

Any and all advice is appreciated.

Cheers

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Re: Nvidia GeForce FX5200 problems

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/30/08 15:13, Frank McCormick wrote:



I have just spent a couple of hours trying to install the card in the
subject line in my computer which is running Debian Sid.

After changing the BIOS to reflect the new card (PCI) I ended up at a
black screen after GDM ran. Killing GDM (and X) got to to a command line
where I changed xorg.conf to use the Debian Nvidia driver (prior to trying
to install the Nvidia driver). No good. Blank screen again. So I tried
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. No good. At one point dpkg-reconfigure told


nv or binary nvidia driver?


me I didn't have xserver-xorg installed!!  Has anyone else had problems
with this card? The only thing I didn't try was the VESA driver. Needless


When in doubt, try vesa.

to say I am back to Intel video for now. 



In addition to those problems, about an eighth of an inch is now missing
from the top of maximized windows on my LG LCD monitor. What have I done?
I have since tried the automatic adjustment on the monitor but it doesn't
help.

Any and all advice is appreciated.



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Re: Nvidia GeForce FX5200 problems

[Bob Cox]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 16:13:13 -0400, Frank McCormick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote: 

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> 
> I have just spent a couple of hours trying to install the card in the
> subject line in my computer which is running Debian Sid.
> 
> After changing the BIOS to reflect the new card (PCI) I ended up at a
> black screen after GDM ran. Killing GDM (and X) got to to a command line
> where I changed xorg.conf to use the Debian Nvidia driver (prior to trying
> to install the Nvidia driver). No good. Blank screen again. So I tried
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. No good. At one point dpkg-reconfigure told
> me I didn't have xserver-xorg installed!!  Has anyone else had problems
> with this card? The only thing I didn't try was the VESA driver. Needless
> to say I am back to Intel video for now. 
> 
> In addition to those problems, about an eighth of an inch is now missing
> from the top of maximized windows on my LG LCD monitor. What have I done?
> I have since tried the automatic adjustment on the monitor but it doesn't
> help.
> 
> Any and all advice is appreciated.

Just in case you haven't seen this:

http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

then it might be useful.

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Re: kernel-image-2.6-k7 and Shorewall firewall

[Steven Jan Springl]

On Wednesday 30 July 2008 16:41, Account for Debian group mail wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We just did an upgrade on one of our etch servers. It installed a bunch
> of new updates including a kernel-image 2.6.18-6-k7. This computer is
> running the Shorewall Firewall. Everything seemed to be working OK till we
> tried to ping the server.
>
> The firewall is set to let in pings every second:
> >From "rules" file inside shorewall - this has always worked:
>
> ACCEPT net $FW icmp8   -   -   
>1/sec
>
> What iptables-save shows:
> -A net2fw -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 8 -m limit --limit 1/sec -j ACCEPT
> -A net2fw -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 0 -m limit --limit 1/sec -j ACCEPT
>
> Should work!
>
> What syslog shows:
> Jul 30 08:12:19 spare kernel: Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
> MAC=00:14:2a:4a:3c:cf:xx:xx:xx:25:1c:00:08:00 SRC=20x.10x.xxx.11
> DST=20x.10x.xxx.38 LEN=84 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=ICMP
> TYPE=8 CODE=0 ID=32799 SEQ=8
> (numbers change to protect the innocent)
>
> I change the "rules" file to:
>
> ACCEPT net $FW icmp8   -   -
>
> so it just accepts pings and it works just fine.
>
> Seems like something has changed in this new kernel-image. Is it possible
> that 1 second in the iptables stuff is no longer 1 second? Do I need to
> decrease or increase the time limit? Anyone else run into this? I would
> still like to limit the ping rates.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
Ken 

I have just tried this with the updated 2.6.18-6-k7 kernel, but I cannot 
re-create your problem.

Steven.


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Re : 2.6.25 Issues

[David Baron]

> > 1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the release
> > candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any effect, the
> > thing boots OK, but 
> >
> > 2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets IDE
> > canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored using
> > hdparm but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file system is
> > damaged. There may, in fact, be problems with the drive involved, but
> > these problems rarely if ever occur in 2.6.23.
>
> It's either the hardware or the chipset, because the nvidia MCP55
> chipset with sata_nv and jmicron drivers havebeen working perfectly
> for me so far.

The MB is a via chipset and to get DMA to work when I got this MB, I had  to 
compile the via in
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=y

>
> > I think   2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.
>
> Add this to your sources.list and build a 2.6.26 kernel:
>
> deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main

Is this kernel ready to play? Not on Sid yet.


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Re: NFS problem -- SOLVED!

[Ken Heard]

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Alex Samad put me on the right track to the solution.  See comments in
line below.



>> Other factors which may have a bearing on the situation:  the BDS
>> computer is a P4; whereas the SOL is a dual core on a Foxconn
>> motherboard.  Several other things do not work properly in SOL, such as
>>  mounting and unmounting CF cards; so I wonder if there is something
>> wrong with the Foxconn BIOS.  There has been some noise on line recently
>> about Foxconn's unfriendliness to Linux; for on Foxconn board model (not
>> mine) somebody disected the BIOS and found out why.  When he raised the
>> issue with Foxconn they were upset at being found out but did not care
>> whether Linux worked with Foxconn boards or not.  Caveat emptor.
> 
> I would be rather supprised if a boggy bios stopped nfs mounting, as long
> as ping and other ip was working okay.

Yes, true in this case, but I think I still have issues respecting this
board and its BIOS -- subject for a separate thread perhaps.



> Also have a look from each server to the other server with showmounts -e
> 

I did not know about this command, which by the way is "showmount", so I
read its man page.  Running "showmount -e SOL" on BDS returned the
directories exported from BDS, not those exported from SOL -- most
peculiar.  I then got the bright idea to run "showmount -e
192.168.0.114", 114 being the IP address of the SOL box.  This time the
command returned the directories exported from SOL.  So what it going on?

By running ifconfig in both boxes I verified their IP addresses.  I
checked the /etc/hosts file in both to verify that the right hostnames
were assigned to the right IP addresses.  They were.

I paid particular attention to the BDS:/etc/hosts file, because I
assumed that the problem must reside there.  Finally I noticed that the
 local loopback alias was SOL, not BDS.  The box now called BDS used to
be called SOL.  When I changed the name I changed the name assigned to
the IP address of the new BDS (old SOL) but had neglected to change the
loopback alias.  So I changed it, and BDS can now access the directories
exported from SOL.

I don't fully understand the loopback, but the fact that I had the
loopback alias wrong obviously explains why other things had not worked,
such as accessing html files from a browser using the alias rather than
"localhost".

Thanks to Thomas P. and Alex S. for their help.

Regards,

Ken Heard



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Re: NFS problem -- SOLVED!

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Re: SOLVED: DMA is turned off on my HDD

[Florian Kulzer]

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 21:57:56 +0300, Anton Liaukevich wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>> amd74xx module seems to be included in my initrd:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> lib/modules/2.6.25-2-686/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-generic.ko
>>
>> And so is ide-generic. You could try to rebuild the initrd without it,  
>> BUT:

[...]

> I have read some docs in the inet. I have understood what is initrd, how  
> to use initramfs-tools debian package (in particular, update-initramfs  
> command and "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules" file). I have being intended  
> to add "blacklist ide-generic" string to "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules"  
> file & to run "initramfs-tools -k $(uname -r) -u" command but when I  
> opened this file I was shocked. That is I have seen:
>
> # Added by Debian Installer
> ide-generic
>
> I decided simply delete this string from "modules" file (and update  
> initrd then). And it has solved the problem!

I am glad to hear that you have DMA working now. 

[...]

> Now I suppose that 2nd Florian's solution (booting with  
> "blacklist=ide_generic" appended to the kernel command line) hasn't  
> helped me because ill-started module was "ide-generic" (nor  
> "ide_generic" (minus instead of underscope)). If I make mistakes please  
> correct me.

I think that "-" and underscore are equivalent when it comes to module
names: "modinfo ide-generic" works the same as "modinfo ide_generic".
The module file itself has "-" in its name, i.e. "ide-generic.ko".

In any case, I think that appending "blacklist=..." will only influence
what is loaded in the initrd stage. AFAIK, modules that are mentioned in
/etc/modules will be loaded after the root FS has been mounted
irrespective of the earlier blacklist directives.

> Nevertheless, I don't understand why Debian Installer add this  
> ill-started module to "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules" file. Seems the bug  
> to be Debian-specific.
> For information: I was install Lenny from netinst 7.3MB mini.iso (Lenny,  
> i386, built before 2008-07-02) (downloaded from  
> ftp://ftp.mgts.by/pub/debian-cd/ mirror). I use "ftp.mgts.by/debian/"  
> Debian mirror.

If the information on the Debian driver check page is correct, i.e. if
you really need kernel 2.6.25 for the amd74xx module to work with your
controller, then it may be reasonable to add ide_generic to /etc/modules
to reduce the risk of the system not booting at all. (The installer has
kernel 2.6.24.) However that may be, please send an installation report
to the Debian installer team, describing your problems.

> Now I'm intended to update initrd for all my kernels ;).

Watch out, the 2.6.24 kernel might need ide_generic to use the
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Re: display on remote machines?

[Jochen Schulz]

abdelkader belahcene:
> 
> I have a serveur running an application, to be simpler gnome-terminal, I
> want to run on my serveur gnome-terminal and receive on a remote machine the
> display,  in other word I want to redirect the omage to remote machine.

You realize that this is a ridiculous exercise? Just open a terminal
locally and ssh to the machine.

>  On remote machine I disabled controle with *  xhost +,  on *serveur I
> tried   *gnome-terminal  --display=**192.168.10**.10:0.0* ,  but it failed
> with unknown display 192.168.10.10:0.0 ( which is my remote machine ),  I
> tried  *export DISPLAY=192.168.10**.10:0.0   *then gnome-terminal, same
> problem.

Try 'ssh -Y remote gnome-terminal'. You'll need openssh-server on the
remote side.

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Re: 2.6.25 Issues

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/30/08 14:51, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/30/08 10:02, David Baron wrote:
1. All those section mismatches! This is all over google for the 
release candidates but still around as of .8. Seem not to have any 
effect, the thing boots OK, but 


2. Hal on startup gets an invalid op/code busy from the IDE, resets 
IDE canceling DMA and other enabled functions. These can be restored 
using hdparm but eventually, unreadable sectors occur and the file 
system is damaged. There may, in fact, be problems with the drive 
involved, but these problems rarely if ever occur in 2.6.23.


It's either the hardware or the chipset, because the nvidia MCP55 
chipset with sata_nv and jmicron drivers havebeen working perfectly 
for me so far.



I think   2.6.25 is too dangerous to use at this point.


Add this to your sources.list and build a 2.6.26 kernel:

deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel trunk main



Did you? I built a 2.6.26 from kernel.org.
Two items:
1. the NVidia driver 96.43-07 applies without having to patch anything


That's pretty old.  Do you have a 52xx or 6xxx series card?



It's coming. As of yet it's an mx4000



173.14.05 compiles perfectly...



I just realized that I haven't rebooted yet, and so am still running  a 
kernel from linux-source-2.6.25 v2.6.25-7.


gcc version 4.3.1 (Debian 4.3.1-6) builds nvidia 173.14.05 and runs it 
well.


2. the VMware vmserver 1.0.6 needs update117c and then starting vmware 
gets an out-of-memory error.


Can't comment on that since I don't run VMware.

Beyond that I am of the opinion that 2.6.26 (and 2.6.25) is stickier 
than 2.6.24, the last kernel that the -ck patch could be applied to.


It must be hardware incompatibility issues.  Life was so much easier in 
1984...




No. It's that Con Kolivas quit and nobody knows how to patch the newer 
kernels for performance the way he did. I started looking at his patch 
and it is c o m p l i c a t e d!


Hugo







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Re: Nvidia GeForce FX5200 problems

[Nate Bargmann]

I've no advice except to say I'm building a Myth TV box using Mythbuntu
and bought just that card off of ebay and it's working on both the VGA
and S-Video ports with the proprietary nvidia driver.  It also worked
fine with the nv driver but only on the VGA port.  So the chipset is
supported.

- Nate >>

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Re: fortune not working

[Peter Daum]

Mark Allums wrote:

Peter Daum wrote:
certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system 
(mainly Etch,
I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I 
trace it, I
can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is 
obviously just

for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error.

Any ideas?
 Peter




I bet it is producing output *somewhere*, the question is *where*.


That would be pretty amazing, because it isn't even trying to -
as already said, when it strace what it does, I can see it opening
and reading a whole bunch of date files, but it does not issue a
single "write" syscall.
There also should be al necessary packages installed (unless there
is something essential missing in the dependencies):
#  dpkg -l fortune*|grep ii
ii  fortune-mod1.99.1-3.1 provides fortune cookies on demand
ii  fortunes   1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies
ii  fortunes-min   1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies


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Re: Cannot switch to VT (console)

[Florian Kulzer]

On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 00:17:35 +0100, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote:
> On 27/07/08 20:40, Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 23:41:37 +0100, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote:
>>> On 23/07/08 14:38, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
 Michal R. Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Recently I tried to switch to VT (console) and I couldn't -   
> Ctrl+Alt+F1 didn't work (and they used to couple of weeks ago). I 
>  don't even know where to look for the problem; xev detects 
> KeyRelease XF86_Switch_VT_1 event, /etc/inittab contain getty 
> respawns.
>> Does is also report the KeyPress event for XF86_Switch_VT_1?
> No, only KeyRelease.

Interesting, the KeyPress event seems to be intercepted, but X does not
act on it. You could try to run

tail -fn0 /var/log/Xorg.0.log

in an X terminal and check if anything is appended to the Xorg log when
you press CTRL+ALT+F1.

 Check your xorg.conf and see if the DontVTSwitch option is present. 
 
>>> No, it's not.
 Also, it could be some problem with your XkbModel setting, like 
 pc105  instead of pc104.
>>> Hmmm, that's possible - I have that Microsoft ergonomical USB 
>>> keyboard,  connected via Avocent KVM. But it worked previously... And 
>>> xev detects  the XF86_Switch_VT_1 event so it seems to be OK.
>> Post the output of these commands:
>>
>> setxkbmap -print
>
> $ setxkbmap -print
> xkb_keymap {
>   xkb_keycodes  { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)"   };
>   xkb_types { include "complete"  };
>   xkb_compat{ include "complete"  };
>   xkb_symbols   { include  
> "pc+gb+inet(microsoftprousb)+pl:2+level3(ralt_switch_for_alts_toggle):1+level3(ralt_switch_for_alts_toggle):2+group(alts_toggle)+eurosign(4)+keypad(oss)"
>  
> };
>   xkb_geometry  { include "microsoft(natural)"};
> };

Wow, that is quite a mouthful... 

>> xmodmap
> $ xmodmap

[ snip: all normal here ]

>> xmodmap -pk | grep XF86_Switch_VT
>
> $ xmodmap -pk | grep XF86_Switch_VT
>  67   0xffbe (F1) 0x1008fe01 (XF86_Switch_VT_1)   

[ snip: the others seem to be OK as well ]

I agree with you that it should work like that. Maybe you have to try a
simpler configuration now, and then you can gradually add all the above
options to find out which one breaks the VT switching. As far as I can
tell, they should all be defined, but maybe they are not all compatible
(which could be a bug).

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Re: Accent chars instead of VGA graphics from Ubuntu system (terminal via ssh)

[Nate Bargmann]

* Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jul 30 09:15 -0500]:

> What I see is charater encoding issue.  Terminal does not understand
> UTF-8 (That is Mythbuntu 8.04 problem) while it looks like you are
> runing sid in en_US.UTF-8 or so.
> 
> Check encoding of both system.

My Sid box shows:

$ echo $LANG
en_US

The Mythbuntu box shows:

$ echo $LANG
en_US.UTF-8

> Try work around problem using
>  $ mc -a

No change.

> or
>  $ LANG=C mc -a

That got me closer as the borders are now rendered in ASCII:

http://n0nb.us/pix/snap6.jpg

> or something like this.

Trying to reconfigure the locale gave me this:

$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p low locales
Generating locales...
  en_US.UTF-8... up-to-date
Generation complete.

But since the Ubuntu system probably depends on UTF-8, I'll assume that
it's wise to leave it alone.  I can add a Bash alias to run mc the
second way although that isn't much help with other programs.  However,
from the terminal in Mythbuntu in XFCE it all works fine.  Maybe my Sid
box should be default UTF8.  I'm going to try that since the dialog
advises that it should be the default.

Thanks, Osamu.

- Nate >>

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Re: fortune not working

[Mark Allums]

Peter Daum wrote:

Mark Allums wrote:

Peter Daum wrote:
certainly not the most critical problem, but at least on my system 
(mainly Etch,
I also tried the fortune package from Lenny) doesn't work. when I 
trace it, I
can see that it reads a bunch of fortue data files but that is 
obviously just

for its own pleasure - it just silently exits w/o any error.

Any ideas?
 Peter


I bet it is producing output *somewhere*, the question is *where*.


That would be pretty amazing, because it isn't even trying to -
as already said, when it strace what it does, I can see it opening
and reading a whole bunch of date files, but it does not issue a
single "write" syscall.
There also should be al necessary packages installed (unless there
is something essential missing in the dependencies):
#  dpkg -l fortune*|grep ii
ii  fortune-mod1.99.1-3.1 provides fortune cookies on demand
ii  fortunes   1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies
ii  fortunes-min   1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies



Ahh, I should read more closely.  My bad.


Mark Allums



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Re: Nvidia GeForce FX5200 problems

[Frank McCormick]

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Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've no advice except to say I'm building a Myth TV box using Mythbuntu
> and bought just that card off of ebay and it's working on both the VGA
> and S-Video ports with the proprietary nvidia driver.  It also worked
> fine with the nv driver but only on the VGA port.  So the chipset is
> supported.


   Good to know. I'll give it another try later today.

Cheers

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Re: Sometimes only 1 desktop and no window border in KDE

[Mumia W..]

On 07/30/2008 05:35 AM, Anton Liaukevich wrote:

Anton Liaukevich wrote:
Sorry. I'm novice at Linux. Please, explain how to use ulimit 
correctly and what is corefiles.


I have run "killall kwin" command in "konsole" x-terminal but:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ killall kwin
kwin: no process killed

Then I haven't seen any message from kwin on my terminal (after 
running "kwin &" command).



Now I have seen strange message in konsole:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ kwin: X_SetInputFocus(0x1e0057c): BadMatch (invalid 
parameter attributes)





No biggie--I get that all the time.

Read "help ulimit" and "man core"



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Mount Problem when WinXp is hibernating

[Oscar Blanco]

Hello,

I've got Debian Lenny since last year and during the "getting used to
Linux"process I kept the old WinXP partition (well, it stills there). So,
now I've got my disk with two OS (Windows XP Professional, Linux Debian
Lenny).

When I did it, I included a line in fstab file with the following, in order
to always mount the WinXP partition.
*
# /etc/fstab: static file system information
#

...
/dev/hda1 /media/windows/C ntfs-3g
rw,locale=en_GB.utf8,uid=1000 0  0
...
*
It works fine, but, today I came across with something. I left WinXP
hibernating and checking in console WinXP partition is not mounted.

I tried to mount it manually
*#mount /media/windows/C*
but here is the result
*Failed to mount '/dev/hda1': Operation not permitted
The NTFS partition is hibernated. Please resume and shutdown Windows
properly, so mounting could be done safely.
*Why could not this be done safely?

Here some details,
Kernel   2.6.22-3-686
KDE  3.5
Laptop  Acer TravelMate 2300 Series

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Re: Accent chars instead of VGA graphics from Ubuntu system (terminal via ssh)

[Nate Bargmann]

* Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jul 30 16:34 -0500]:
>  Maybe my Sid
> box should be default UTF8.  I'm going to try that since the dialog
> advises that it should be the default.

That was, errr, interesting.  Since I have locale-purge installed and
it runs after packages are installed via Aptitude, it helpfully cleaned
out the en_US.UTF-8 locale since I hadn't selected it back who know's
when via the locales package.  All kinds of weired and interesting
effects occured once I allowed en_US.UTF-8 become the default. :-)

As a work around I've set en_US as my locale in my .bashrc and will
wait until a number of pacakges get updated and the UTF locale gets
restored before trying again.  At least I think I'm on the right track.

I guess that some tools fall into the realm of "if you know what you're
doing".  ;-)

- Nate >>

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Re: Re: your mail

[Sam Kuper]

2008/7/30 Michiel Piscaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I didn't reseved this mail or anything like this, is it many that i
> graylist all of my incommimg mail first?
>

 If you are a subscriber to the list, and you send an email to the list from
the email account you subscribed with, the email will reach the list. As is
the *NIX way, you will not normally be notified in case of success, only in
case of failure.

So the fact that you did not receive acknowledgement after posting to the
list does not imply that the post was not successful. If it had failed, you
should have received a warning.

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Re: GFS ... cluster.conf doesn't exist

[Thomas Preud'homme]

Le mercredi 30 juillet 2008, Bob a écrit :
> running debian etch:
>
> I tried installing all gfs / cluster related packages, and found that
> none of them created an /etc/cluster/cluster.conf file.
>
> I also found at least 1 bug report regarding this, and an indication
> that the bug was resolved on the newer versions of the packages which
> are part of the lenny dist (or back-ported).
>
> So - I downloaded all related and dependent packages in the newer
> versions, and installed all of them, only to find the exact same
> problem - NO /etc/cluster/cluster.conf file!!!
>
> I'm less concerned about creating my own .conf file, than I am about
> what else may NOT have happened during installation.
>
> Has anyone else had any experience with GFS under debian?
> If you were successful, what versions / packages did you use?
> Are there any un-documented gotcha's / tip's you can offer?
>
> TIA! -
> Bob

some dpkg -L | grep etc on these package don't show anything ?

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Re: GFS ... cluster.conf doesn't exist

[Bob]

On Jul 30, 6:20 pm, Thomas Preud'homme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Le mercredi 30 juillet 2008, Bob a écrit :
[SNIP]
>
> > I tried installing all gfs / cluster related packages, and found that
> > none of them created an /etc/cluster/cluster.conf file.
>
[SNIP]
>
> some dpkg -L | grep etc on these package don't show anything ?
>
> Regards
>
> --
> Thomas Preud'homme
>

Thomas - TX for your reply;

that is correct. I can run dpkg -L for all related packages, and not 1
of them includes the /etc/cluster/cluster.conf file.
Having said that - I must also point out that it's certainly possible
that this file is supposed to be generated thru an install script.
Clearly that isn't happening either - IF that's what is supposed to
happen...

problem is - I don't even know which package is responsible for this
file!!

TIA - Bob


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Re: fortune not working

[s. keeling]

Peter Daum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  #  dpkg -l fortune*|grep ii
>  ii  fortune-mod1.99.1-3.1 provides fortune cookies on demand
>  ii  fortunes   1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies
>  ii  fortunes-min   1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies

(0) phreaque /home/keeling_ pkgs fortune | egrep '^i'
i   fortune-mod - provides fortune cookies on demand
i   fortunes- Data files containing fortune cookies
i   fortunes-min- Data files containing fortune cookies

fwiw, also etch.  I can only guess charset clash (ASCII/utf-8), and it
knows not to bother opening anything as it knows it can't translate?  Guess.


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Re: display on remote machines?

[s. keeling]

Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  abdelkader belahcene:
> > 
> > I have a serveur running an application, to be simpler gnome-terminal, I
> > want to run on my serveur gnome-terminal and receive on a remote machine the
> > display,  in other word I want to redirect the omage to remote machine.
> 
>  You realize that this is a ridiculous exercise? Just open a terminal
>  locally and ssh to the machine.
> [snip]
>  Try 'ssh -Y remote gnome-terminal'. You'll need openssh-server on the
>  remote side.

For the archives ...

Yes, and don't fiddle with xhost (doesn't apply) or DISPLAY (handled
internally by sshd).


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  10,000,000 1,020,334603,666   -

  10,500,000 1,071,350633,850   -

  11,000,000 1,122,367664,033   -

  12,000,000 1,224,401724,400   -

  13,000,000 1,326,434784,766   -

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  15,000,000 1,505,000887,500686,667

  16,000,000 1,605,333946,667732,444

  17,000,000 1,705,667  1,005,833778,222

  18,000,000 1,806,000  1,065,000824,000

  19,000,000 1,906,333  1,124,167869,778

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  23,000,000 2,307,667  1,360,833  1,052,889

  24,000,000 2,408,000  1,420,000  1,098,667

  25,000,000 2,508,333  1,479,167  1,144,444

  25,500,000 2,558,500  1,508,750  1,167,333

  26,000,000 2,608,667  1,538,333  1,190,222

  27,000,000 2,709,000  1,597,500  1,236,000

  28,000,000 2,809,333  1,656,667  1,281,778

  29,000,000 2,909,667  1,715,833  1,327,556

  30,000,000 3,010,000  1,775,000  1,373,333

  31,000,000 3,110,333  1,834,167  1,419,111

  32,000,000 3,210,667  1,893,333  1,464,889

  33,000,000 3,311,000  1,952,500  1,510,667

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  43,000,000 4,314,333  2,544,167  1,968,444

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  48,000,000 4,816,000  2,840,000  2,197,333

  49,000,000 4,916,333  2,899,167  2,243,111

  50,000,000 5,016,667  2,958,333  2,288,889

  55,000,000 5,518,333  3,254,167  2,517,778

  60,000,000 6,020,000  3,550,000  2,746,667

  65,000,000 6,521,667  3,845,833  2,975,556

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  95,000,000 9,531,667  5,620,833  4,348,889

 100,000,00010,033,333  5,916,667  4,577,778

 105,000,00010,535,000  6,212,500  4,806,667

 110,000,00011,036,667  6,508,333  5,035,556

 115,000,00011,538,333  6,804,167  5,264,444

 120,000,00012,040,000  7,100,000  5,493,333

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Re: kernel-image-2.6-k7 and Shorewall firewall

[Account for Debian group mail]

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008, Steven Jan Springl wrote:

> On Wednesday 30 July 2008 16:41, Account for Debian group mail wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > We just did an upgrade on one of our etch servers. It installed a bunch
> > of new updates including a kernel-image 2.6.18-6-k7. This computer is
> > running the Shorewall Firewall. Everything seemed to be working OK till we
> > tried to ping the server.
> >
> > The firewall is set to let in pings every second:
> > >From "rules" file inside shorewall - this has always worked:
> >
> > ACCEPT net $FW icmp8   -   -
> >1/sec
> >
> > What iptables-save shows:
> > -A net2fw -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 8 -m limit --limit 1/sec -j ACCEPT
> > -A net2fw -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 0 -m limit --limit 1/sec -j ACCEPT
> >
> > Should work!
> >
> > What syslog shows:
> > Jul 30 08:12:19 spare kernel: Shorewall:net2fw:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=
> > MAC=00:14:2a:4a:3c:cf:xx:xx:xx:25:1c:00:08:00 SRC=20x.10x.xxx.11
> > DST=20x.10x.xxx.38 LEN=84 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF PROTO=ICMP
> > TYPE=8 CODE=0 ID=32799 SEQ=8
> > (numbers change to protect the innocent)
> >
> > I change the "rules" file to:
> >
> > ACCEPT net $FW icmp8   -   -
> >
> > so it just accepts pings and it works just fine.
> >
> > Seems like something has changed in this new kernel-image. Is it possible
> > that 1 second in the iptables stuff is no longer 1 second? Do I need to
> > decrease or increase the time limit? Anyone else run into this? I would
> > still like to limit the ping rates.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ken
> Ken
>
> I have just tried this with the updated 2.6.18-6-k7 kernel, but I cannot
> re-create your problem.
>
> Steven.

Steven,

Thanks for the reply. I went and configured Shorewall back the way it was
and now it works fine. I rebooted the server and still it works the way
it should. I know what it was doing and the logs prove me out. So all I
can think now is that it is an intermittent problem - great.

Again thanks for checking it out on your end.

Ken


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Re: display on remote machines?

[Gabriel Parrondo]

El mié, 30-07-2008 a las 18:56 +0100, abdelkader belahcene escribió:
> Hi,
> I ve send this message many times and don't receive a correct
> answer !!?, I hope that somebody gives me a hint.
> 
> I have a serveur running an application, to be simpler gnome-terminal,
> I want to run on my serveur gnome-terminal and receive on a remote
> machine the display,  in other word I want to redirect the omage to
> remote machine.On remote machine I disabled controle with   xhost
> +,  on serveur I tried   gnome-terminal  --display=192.168.10.10:0.0 ,
> but it failed  with unknown display 192.168.10.10:0.0 ( which is my
> remote machine ),  I tried  export DISPLAY=192.168.10.10:0.0   then
> gnome-terminal, same problem.


The other guys are right, you *should* use ssh for this.

Anyway, for what you're trying to do to work you have to make sure that
the Xserver in the remote machine was not run with the '-nolisten tcp'
option.

Also, you should not use xhost, xauth is the right way to go.


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Re: sensible-browser weirdness (was Re: SOLVED was Re: pine help)

[i'll teach you to turn away.]

Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
CB> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 04:07:28AM +, i'll teach you to turn away. 
wrote:
>>   echo'ing it seems to run & then dump out of lynx...
CB> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ file $(which sensible-browser)
CB> /usr/bin/sensible-browser: Bourne shell script text executable
CB> Do you get that?

$ file $(which sensible-browser)
/usr/bin/sensible-browser: POSIX shell script text executable

HAH. wtf.

lish
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Re: SOLVED was Re: pine help

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Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> way. the weird thing is, though, that my local .mailcap didn't override 
>> it. & i tried changing sensible-browser, which also didn't do anything. 
>> so i'm at a bit of a loss as to how to make a permanent fix here...
OA> How did you overide with your local .mailcap?

by adding this to ~/.mailcap:

text/html; /usr/bin/lynx %s

which follows the format of everything else in there. but, uh, it 
didn't override. & /etc/mailcap has SEVERAL text/html entries. soo...?

OA> What program was (or which mailcap entry was) used when it was working?

lynx, originally. it's back to lynx when i comment the 
/etc/mailcap line in question.

OA> Did you put that working mail cap entry into .mailcap?

i don't understand this question. i didn't change anything in 
/etc/mailcap except commenting the sensible-browser line.

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Re: lynx upgrade issue?

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Cameron Hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
CH> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (i'll teach you to turn away.) writes:
>>   ok, so i added the directory ~/.lynx & i dumped the color settings 
>>into ~/.lynx/colors but it's still green. however, i did find that 
>>/etc/lynx-cur has a .lss file in it which apparently controls color in a 
>>totally different layout than old lynx. wow, that's irritating. time to 
>>edit manually for a half hour i guess.
CH> The contents of my ~/.lynx/colors are:
CH> COLOR:0:lightgray:black
CH> COLOR:1:cyan:black
CH> COLOR:2:yellow:blue
CH> COLOR:3:green:black
CH> COLOR:4:green:black
CH> COLOR:5:brightcyan:black
CH> COLOR:6:red:black
CH> COLOR:7:black:white
CH> I think I just copied and pasted that from my old config, but that was a
CH> while ago, so I might be wrong.

right, i tried putting exactly that in ~/.lynx/colors, but it 
ignored me. only editing /etc/lynx-cur/lynx.lss changes the colors - & 
they're laid out ENTIRELY differently from my old lynx color entries, 
which match what you've dumped here (except for the exact colors 
themselves). what's going on with my system?! heh.

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Re: lynx upgrade issue?

[Cameron Hutchison]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (i'll teach you to turn away.) writes:

>   right, i tried putting exactly that in ~/.lynx/colors, but it 
>ignored me. only editing /etc/lynx-cur/lynx.lss changes the colors - & 
>they're laid out ENTIRELY differently from my old lynx color entries, 
>which match what you've dumped here (except for the exact colors 
>themselves). what's going on with my system?! heh.

Aha, found it.

I also have:
COLOR_STYLE:
in /etc/lynx-cur/local.cfg

It looks like it defaults to
COLOR_STYLE: lynx.lss

so by turning that off, it looks like thats how I got it to pay
attention to my ~/.lynx/colors file.

Hopefully there was nothing else I changed - it was a while ago so I've
forgotten all about it.


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Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 - US - Debian mirror?

[Forsaken]

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:10:20 -0700
"Lubos Rendek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> 
> I'm just wondering what is the reason that Debian US mirror is running
> on Microsoft-IIS/6.0? Or at least this is what my browser shows when I
> go to: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/
> --
> lubo
> http://www.linuxconfig.org/
> 
> 

It probably means someone is using mod_security to tweak the server
signature to show something else. We do that at work by default on all
of our servers just to keep the bad guys guessing.

That has come back to bite us in the ass occasionally. Try installing
YaBB2 on an apache server showing IIS as the signature sometime.


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Re: fortune not working

[Peter Daum]

s. keeling wrote:

Peter Daum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

 #  dpkg -l fortune*|grep ii
 ii  fortune-mod1.99.1-3.1 provides fortune cookies on demand
 ii  fortunes   1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies
 ii  fortunes-min   1.99.1-3.1 Data files containing fortune cookies


(0) phreaque /home/keeling_ pkgs fortune | egrep '^i'
i   fortune-mod - provides fortune cookies on demand
i   fortunes- Data files containing fortune cookies
i   fortunes-min- Data files containing fortune cookies

fwiw, also etch.  I can only guess charset clash (ASCII/utf-8), and it
knows not to bother opening anything as it knows it can't translate?  Guess.


I normally use ISO8859-1, but the locale setting doesn't make a difference.
The installed data files only use ASCII anyway. Actually, I really can't
see much potential for something as simple as "fortune" to go wrong ;-)

I just tried an ages old fortune program that I still had around, which
(after adjusting the path of the data files with a symlink) works fine
with the Debian data files ...




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