Re: 2.6 kernel causing X to hang?
> > a couple days ago, i upgraded from the 2.4.6 kernel to the 2.6.4 > > kernel. figured out a couple problems, and all seemed smooth. > > > > however, twice today -- both initially while using a java IDE -- X has > > frozen, leaving whatever was last on the screen displayed up there and > > not showing the results of me doing anything to it. I can echo similar problems since switching to 2.6.4 and now 2.6.5. This is on a Debian box running the testing tree. I more often experience the lock-up when GDM is running and no users logged it. Sometimes when I try to log in via X the machine will lock up tight as soon as I hit ENTER after entering my password. GDM never exits and I can't get to any virtual console. Sometimes the magic SysRq works to reboot, sometimes not. And sometimes the machine is locked up and I can't type my user name. It seems to be totally random when it happens. And to make it more interesting, sometimes (though less often) X will lock up while I'm using it. I'm not sure if this is a kernel or X problem. It never happens if I switch back to 2.4.25. bob -- bob billsonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ham: kc2wz /) [EMAIL PROTECTED] beekeeper -8|||} "Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin." --DorothyLinux geek \) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good front end for small postgress dtabases?
On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 01:15:54PM -0500, Paul Morgan penned: > > I need to create some small databses in postgress (christmas card list, > > household inventory). What choices do I have for creating user input forms, > > and reports in Debian? > > pgaccess I'm curious. Is there a similar program for mysql? bob -- bob billsonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ham: kc2wz /) [EMAIL PROTECTED] beekeeper -8|||} Beannachtaí na Nollaig! Linux geek \) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HELP] sarge, 2.6.0 and ALSA won't play
On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 07:53:36PM +0100, John L. Fjellstad penned:
> How did you compile 2.6.0? Remember that ALSA comes with 2.6.x, and you
> don't have to compile the alsa-modules from alsa-source.
Thanks for answering, John. Yes, I remembered this. I only compiled the
alsa modules that are in the 2.6.0 tarball. hrm... However, the ALSA
start up scripts for the 2.4 kernel are still installed. Wonder if this
is messing things up for 2.6. I don't want to remove the 2.4 ALSA stuff
since I dual boot this box.
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Re: [HELP] sarge, 2.6.0 and ALSA won't play
On Wed, Dec 24, 2003 at 12:49:21AM -0500, Roberto Sanchez penned:
> What is the output of an lsmod after boot?
Hi Roberto ... Thanks for answering.
#: lsmod
Module Size Used by
ide_cd 40260 0
cdrom 34336 1 ide_cd
parport_pc 40636 1
lp 10304 0
parport43304 2 parport_pc,lp
snd_page_alloc 12292 0
soundcore 9024 0
> What are the contents of /etc/modules?
You did mean to type /etc/modules not /etc/modules.conf, right?
#: cat /etc/modules
# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
#
# This file should contain the names of kernel modules that are
# to be loaded at boot time, one per line. Comments begin with
# a `#', and everything on the line after them are ignored.
Nothing is in /etc/modules. I found with 2.4.x kernels, I don't
need to pre-load sound modules to get either OSS or ALSA to work.
For comparison, if I boot 2.4.23 this is lsmod returns:
#: lsmod
Module Size Used byTainted: PF
parport_pc 21000 1 (autoclean)
lp 6176 0 (autoclean)
parport14272 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
snd-seq-midi4032 0 (autoclean) (unused)
snd-trident-synth 8076 1 (autoclean)
snd-seq-instr 5248 0 (autoclean) [snd-trident-synth]
snd-ainstr-simple 2244 0 (autoclean) [snd-trident-synth]
snd-seq-midi-emul 4960 0 (autoclean) [snd-trident-synth]
snd-seq-oss28928 0 (unused)
snd-seq-midi-event 3328 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq36336 3 [snd-seq-midi snd-trident-synth snd-seq-instr
snd-seq-midi-emul snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-pcm-oss38340 0
snd-mixer-oss 13304 0 [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-trident25636 0 [snd-trident-synth]
snd-pcm57828 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-trident]
snd-timer 14244 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-util-mem1280 0 [snd-trident]
snd-page-alloc 6164 0 [snd-trident-synth snd-trident snd-pcm]
snd-mpu401-uart 3328 0 [snd-trident]
snd-rawmidi13472 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device 4240 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-trident-synth snd-seq-oss snd-seq
snd-trident snd-rawmidi]
snd-ac97-codec 39576 0 [snd-trident]
snd28868 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-instr snd-seq-oss
snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-trident snd-pcm snd-timer
snd-util-mem snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-ac97-codec]
soundcore 3844 8 [snd]
serial 48260 1 (autoclean)
Any ideas?
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[HELP] sarge, 2.6.0 and ALSA won't play
Hi all! Help! I've searched the debian-user archives but didn't find anything helpful, so I'm turning to the list. I'm not sure if this is a Debian, kernel or a pilot error thing. I'm running Debian sarge (with a few packages from sid) on my box. Currently, I'm running the 2.4.23 kernel. I have ALSA (deb package v0.9.6-5) installed, configured and *working* as a module. Now that 2.6.0 is out (woohoo!), I decided to give it a try. I'm having a problem getting 2.6.0 and ALSA to play literally and figuratively. I built the kernel from the original tarball. I have ALSA configured as a module for my sound chip, a SiS SI7018 (Trident). The old OSS modules are not selected. I will attach my 2.6.0 .config file. When I re-boot and the ALSA attempts to start, I get the following in logs (greatly edited): Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_mixer_oss: Unknown symbol snd_info_register Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_mixer_oss: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_mixer_oss: Unknown symbol snd_info_get_str [snip] Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_verbose_printd Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_register Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_create_module_entry [snip] Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_verbose_printd Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_info_register Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_pcm: Unknown symbol snd_info_create_module_entry [snip] Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_pcm_oss: Unknown symbol snd_pcm_lib_read Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_pcm_oss: Unknown symbol snd_verbose_printd Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_pcm_oss: Unknown symbol snd_info_register [snip] Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_mixer_oss: Unknown symbol snd_info_register Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_mixer_oss: Unknown symbol snd_info_free_entry Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_mixer_oss: Unknown symbol snd_info_get_str [snip] Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_verbose_printd Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_register Dec 20 22:41:56 etain kernel: snd_timer: Unknown symbol snd_info_create_module_entry The snipped parts contains many lines for each module. Pretty much looks like any symbols in the ALSA modules are not being recognized. I do have module-init-tools (deb v0.9.15-pre3-2) installed. I did make sure that the correct System.map is in /boot. I'm puzzled what I'm overlooking; probably something stupidly simple. If someone could poke me with a clue :-), I would be most grateful. Thanks for the help! bob -- bob billsonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ham: kc2wz /) [EMAIL PROTECTED] beekeeper -8|||} Beannachtaí na Nollaig! Linux geek \) # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # CONFIG_X86=y CONFIG_MMU=y CONFIG_UID16=y CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y # CONFIG_CLEAN_COMPILE is not set CONFIG_STANDALONE=y CONFIG_BROKEN=y CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y # # General setup # CONFIG_SWAP=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=14 CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y # CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y CONFIG_FUTEX=y CONFIG_EPOLL=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y # CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD is not set CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y # # Processor type and features # CONFIG_X86_PC=y # CONFIG_X86_VOYAGER is not set # CONFIG_X86_NUMAQ is not set # CONFIG_X86_SUMMIT is not set # CONFIG_X86_BIGSMP is not set # CONFIG_X86_VISWS is not set # CONFIG_X86_GENERICARCH is not set # CONFIG_X86_ES7000 is not set # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set # CONFIG_M686 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set CONFIG_MK7=y # CONFIG_MK8 is not set # CONFIG_MELAN is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set # CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set # CONFIG_X86_GENERIC is not set CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y CONFIG_X86_XADD=y CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=6 CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y CONFIG_X86_USE_3DNOW=y CONFIG_HPET_TIMER=y CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC=y # CONFIG_SMP is not set CONFIG_PREEMPT=y CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y CONFIG_X8
Re: Small debian install
Quoting Neil Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I have this P75 with 500MB HD and 16Mb RAM just sitting there > doing nothing (unwanted present from friend) so I'm going to install > Debian on it. Sure, you can install Debian on it. I'm running a 486/133 w/24 MB as a mail/webserver. It's running with two hard drives, 80 MB and 212 MB. Big storage! :-) > I was wondering has anyone managed to install debian on such a spec > machine with an X server. Is it even feasible? Running X in 16 megs will be ...umm... painful, but doable. bob
Re: LILO Problem
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 04:05:49PM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: > > Sorry, guess I didn't make myself clear. I should have said does grub > > have the equivalent of lilo's /etc/lilo.conf where an equivalent 'append=' > > line goes? That avoids have to press 'c' and entry to info. > > Yes, it's the /boot/grub/menu.lst. Thanks! That answers my question. Looks like I'll have do so playing with grub! :-) bob -- bob billson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ham: kc2wz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux geek/) "Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin." beekeeper -8|||} --Dorothy\) Athbhliain faoi Shéan agus faoi Shona Dhuit!
Re: LILO Problem
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 07:57:58PM -0800, Dale Morris wrote: > Big learning curve here. Actually, it's not as bad it seems. :-) > I just checked and it is on the secondary controller. What now? Good. Moving the drive should be fairly straightforward. Excuse me if it is a bit longish. Easier to give you detailed info now just in case you run into a problem. 1. You need to have working floppy boot/rescue disk. Debian's CD or root/rescue floppy set are ideal. Make sure they work as a rescue disk! Pass root= at the lilo prompt. 2. Backup /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf 3. Edit (carefully) /etc/fstab. Change all references to hdcX (where X is the partition) to hdaX. No need to change the partition number. It *is* a good idea to write down what mount point each partiton goes with "just in case". 4. Edit (carefully) /etc/lilo.conf. Change any references to hdc to hda. Same as above. DON'T run lilo! 5. Shutdown the machine, open it up and move the drive. 6. Make sure your BIOS sees the drive as master on the primary controller and will boot from it. 7. Boot with the Debian CD/rescue disk, passing it the root *Linux* partition. If it was /dev/hdc1 before the move, it is /dev/hda1 now, e.g. root=/dev/hda1 8. You should be back into your system. You should be able to run lilo and not have it complain. If it complains, fix /etc/lilo.conf as needed Reboot the machine to be sure all is good. That's it! Suppose step 8 didn't work. You could not get back into the machine. Maybe a typo in /etc/fstab. Go to Plan B, starting after #6 above... 9. Boot using the Debian CD/floppy set, choose new install. configure the keyboard. When you get to main menu STOP. (That's the one where you can partitiion/mount/format the hard drive, etc.) 10. Be careful here!!! You want to 'mount previously initialized partition'. Here's where the notes you made in #3 come in handy. You should only need to mount the root Linux partition. 11. Do an ALT- to get a shell. Run 'mount'. Debian install mounts the partitions under /target as I recall, but double-check. 12. Do 'chroot /target' (or whatever mount point root is on). Doing 'ls' should show the root Linux partition of your hard drive. Use the '/bin/ae' editor to modify /etc/fstab and/or /etc/lilo.conf as needed. 13. Run '/sbin/lilo -v'. Fix any complaints. 14. Do an ALT- to get back to the Debian install and choose 'reboot system'. The world should be happy again! With more experience, you can get away with using only Plan B. But play it safe the first time. Hopefully, you won't need Plan B. :-) > thanks for your help > you guys are great Glad to help out. Hey, and we didn't even ask for your credit card number first or put you on hold forever. :-) Good luck and let us know how you make out. bob -- bob billson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ham: kc2wz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux geek/) "Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin." beekeeper -8|||} --Dorothy\) Athbhliain faoi Shéan agus faoi Shona Dhuit!
Re: LILO Problem
On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 08:05:13AM +0700, Oki DZ wrote: > > well actually two questions. First, is it easy to pass parameters to the > > kernel like with lilo.conf's 'append='? > > Yes, just press "c" when grub's menu shows (spending time for the > defined delay). Sorry, guess I didn't make myself clear. I should have said does grub have the equivalent of lilo's /etc/lilo.conf where an equivalent 'append=' line goes? That avoids have to press 'c' and entry to info. Thanks... bob -- bob billson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ham: kc2wz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux geek/) "Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin." beekeeper -8|||} --Dorothy\) Athbhliain faoi Shéan agus faoi Shona Dhuit!
Re: Linux 2.4.0 & root fs problem
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 08:36:54PM +, Pollywog wrote:
> I wonder why this is even an option; is there a reason anyone would
> install Linux without ext2 support?
> I have always wondered why the option was given.
In a word: choice. Before ext2 there was the original ext. Or was it
called extfs? I forget. Soon there will be ext3 and others to choose from.
hhmm... Can ext2 be replaced with, say, romfs for embedded apps? I'm glad
Linus and the others gave us this flexibility unlike that choice-less
OS out there.
bob
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Re: LILO Problem
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 09:18:22PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> I have used grub and it is simplicity itself to setup .. and
> very, very good.
I was thinking about trying out grub in place of lilo on my machine. One
well actually two questions. First, is it easy to pass parameters to the
kernel like with lilo.conf's 'append='? Second, is it easier to install
Debian package or play with original tarball?
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Re: Linux 2.4.0 & root fs problem
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 07:35:08PM +0100, Sven Burgener wrote: > VFS: Cannot open root device "803" or 08:03 > Please append a correct "root=" boot option > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:03 Did you remember to say 'yes' *not* 'module' for ext2 support in the kernel (under General Setup) and scsi disks? I once built my kernel with ext2 support as a module late one night. Needless to say, my machine was very unhappy with me. :-) bob -- bob billson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ham: kc2wz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux geek/) "Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin." beekeeper -8|||} --Dorothy\) Athbhliain faoi Shéan agus faoi Shona Dhuit!
Re: LILO Problem
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 01:10:41PM -0500, Bob Billson wrote: > Thanks. From the snip from Dale's dmesg it appears he only has only physical > drive. Sorry, I'm cixelsyd today. I meant to say "appears he only has one physical drive".
Re: LILO Problem
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:44:18PM -0500, D-Man wrote:
> Close but not exactly. In MSDOS/Windows C:, D:, etc refer to
> partitions.
Right you are. I stand corrected. I was thinking of each physical MSDOS
drive and forgot to consider partitions.
[snip]
> This is just to clear up a possible misunderstanding.
Thanks. From the snip from Dale's dmesg it appears he only has only physical
drive. The kernel only reported find hdc. There may be more which didn't
he post.
bob
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Re: LILO Problem
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 07:55:56AM -0800, Dale Morris wrote: Hi Dale... I forgot to ask how many drives are in your machine? > Partition check: >hdc: hdc1 hdc2 < hdc5 hdc6 > hdc3 hdc4 This it the only drive the kernel finds when booting? Seems like it. The kernel should report all IDE devices (hard/CD drives, tape drives, etc.) it finds. From the looks of it, you have only one hard drive which set to be master and plugged into the secondary controller. Does your BIOS agree with this? You need at least one drive which is master on the primary controller. Your BIOS might allow you to boot from any drive or auto-detect any single drive and say "Guess I'll use this". I don't know. So before you go any further...how many drive does your machine have? If just this one, where does your BIOS say it is. DON'T move the drive around yet! If your /etc/fstab isn't right, you won't be able to reboot! bob -- bob billson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ham: kc2wz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux geek/) "Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin." beekeeper -8|||} --Dorothy\) Athbhliain faoi Shéan agus faoi Shona Dhuit!
Re: LILO Problem
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 07:15:37AM -0800, Dale Morris wrote: > here's how my hd is partitioned: > hdc1=windows > hdc3=/ > hdc5=/home > hdc6=/usr > hdc4=swap Assuming you didn't make a typo and meant hdc not hda, what is on hda (master drive, primary controller)? My brother looking over my shoulder just pointed out something. Are primarily a Windows user? Are you thinking hdc = C:? If so, that is likely your problem. (My brother says don't feel bad. It took him a while get it right in his head.) Linux maps drives like this: MSDOSLinux ~~ C: hda(master, primary controller) D: hdb(secondary, primary controller) E: hdc(master, secondary controller) F: hdd(secondary, secondary controller) (and so on) If this is what you are doing, your drives are really partition like this: hda1=windows hda3=/ hda5=/home hda6=/usr hda4=swap If this is the case, make the appropriate changes in lilo.conf, i.e. change all hdc to hda and lilo should be happy. Let us know how you make out. bob -- bob billson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ham: kc2wz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux geek/) "Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin." beekeeper -8|||} --Dorothy\) Athbhliain faoi Shéan agus faoi Shona Dhuit!
Re: help: 2.4.0 kernel and /dev/shm
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:47:21AM -0600, Phil Brutsche wrote: > Well my workstation says: > > shm /var/shmshm defaults0 0 > ^^^ OK, tried it. Sort of works. I am still getting "shmem fs invalid option" and mount is still complaining. Once the system boots if I do 'mount', there is still no mounted /dev/shm. 'cat /proc/filesystems' shows shm is one of the filesystems the kernel knows about. If I do 'mount /dev/shm' manually, it works. Now I'm puzzled, but getting closer. I was looking at /etc/init.d/devpts.sh. In the 2.2.x kernel docs, recommends adding an appropriate line to /etc/fstab. However, Debian choose not to and does it in a boot script instead; not sure why. I am tempted to hack together a similar script for shm. > Don't worry about /var/shm vs /dev/shm - it's just a mountpoint and will > work fine either way. Which is apparently what is used to be. Looks like /dev/shm is the approved mount point. > > I created a directory /dev/shm with permissions 755. > > It won't matter - the permissions on /dev/shm will be changed to 1777 by > the kernel. Which it did when I manually mounted it. > > Can't believe how much faster the machine boots and runs compared to > > 2.2.18!! Nice work Linus and all the other kernel developers!! > > Yea, I noticed that too. I see you haven't tried to push on it yet. Not yet. :-) I'll have to try dbench and see how it compares. > compared to 2.2.x:) But it seems a bit slow compared to 2.4.0-prerelease. > Maybe it's just me. *This* is *slow*?! :-) I didn't have chance to try the prerelease before Linus released the real version bob -- bob billson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ham: kc2wz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux geek/) "Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin." beekeeper -8|||} --Dorothy\) Athbhliain faoi Shéan agus faoi Shona Dhuit!
help: 2.4.0 kernel and /dev/shm
I'm trying out the new 2.4 kernel on my Potato box. I upgrade modutils to the version currently in Woody (2.4.1). Works real nice except for a slight problem I ran into. I can't mount the System V IP shared memory on /dev/shm at bootup. I get this error message: shmem fs invalid option mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock or none, or too many mounted file systems I said YES to 'General setup'->'System V IPC' and NO to 'File systems'->'/dev file system support' when running 'make menuconfig' I added this line to /etc/fstab as the linux-2.4.0/Documentation/Changes says to: none/dev/shmshm defaults0 0 I created a directory /dev/shm with permissions 755. The 2.4 docs don't say to, but didn't say not to. A mistake? The kernel boots and even though it can't mount this virtual filesystem, everything else seems to work--so far. Can't believe how much faster the machine boots and runs compared to 2.2.18!! Nice work Linus and all the other kernel developers!! Can someone tell me where I went wrong. I tried searching the 'net for a clue to no avail. I'm sure it's something stupidly simple I'm overlooking. Can anyone point it out? Thanks for the help. bob -- bob billson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ham: kc2wz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux geek/) "Níl aon tinteán mar do thinteán féin." beekeeper -8|||} --Dorothy\) Athbhliain faoi Shéan agus faoi Shona Dhuit!
dead keys map info?
Hi all... I am trying to find info on which key combinations in Debian
(using the Latin-1 keyboard map) generate the various "dead key" symbols,
e.g. inverse question mark, vowels with accent marks, etc.
I've searched through the HOWTOs. I can find all sorts of info on how to
configure X or various programs allow use of the dead keys. This is good.
What seems to be missing is a map of what key combinations produce what.
I'm looking for the info both for X and the normal console.
Can someone point me where to RTFM? Thanks!
bob
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Damon Muller wrote:
> Try the pop3d server which is part of the qmail package. It's the only
My apologies for not making myself clear enough. I'm running exim and
really would rather not switch to qmail.
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:01:07PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> Yes, courier-pop3d .. unfortunately it's not bundled with courier-imap,
Yes, it would be nice if the author bundled imap and pop3d together. Wonder
if the Debian courier-imap maintainer would be willing to do it.
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 09:12:18PM +0200, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> Read well :-)
> XMail is what You're finding for.
ahhh... Right you are. Sorry. I was confusing it with XFMail, which is a
mail client.
I don't need an entire mail server. I already have exim and courier imap
set up. All I need is a standalone POP server which can handle maildir.
There doesn't seem to be an easy way to make XMail's POP server standalone.
Or is there? Courier has a POP server, but it isn't standalone either. :-(
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:46:28PM +0200, Davide Libenzi wrote:
> Try XMail : http://www.maticad.it/davide/xmail.asp
XMail is a *client*. I need a POP *server* which handles maildir.
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
I've had very good luck with courier. Setting it up can be a little
tricky especially with getting authentication to play nice.
I do have a question. What is a good POP server to use with maildir
mailboxes? I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap. Any
suggestions?
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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #475
Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > and why depmod makes such weird things ...
> > run "rm /lib/modules/2.0.36/modules.dep" - possibly it's write-protected
> > or such thing.
>
> I did that and it puts back the weird one. Correction: it IS stamped 5
> hours older than whenever it is created (boot). I am at GMT -500 but this
> seems backward for me... What's up??? I *have* to mark it read-only
> (immutable) to avoid the errors!
This may or may not solve your problem, but something similar happened
to me a while ago. It turned out I had edited the files in
/etc/modutils with vi. I have vi configured to save backups of
edited. The backups are saved with a '~' tacked on to the filename,
e.g. foo~. I forgot to remove the backups before running 'update-modules'
and then 'depmod -a'. The result was a lot of unresolved symbol
errors when things had previously worked.
HTH ... bob, definitely not a Debian genius :)
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Re: Router Project
Peter Good <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have heard things about the linux router project, has anyone here come
> across it? or a similar thing in debian?
The Linux Router Project is based on Debian. Their web page is at
www.linuxrouter.org.
There is another new distro based on The Linux Router Project called
Coyote Linux. Their web page is at www.vortech.net/coyote/
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Re: Sound from cassete to mp3
Stephan Engelke writes:
> > What is the best way of transferring sound stored in cassete to mp3? Can
> > this be done without the microphone?
>
> you should be able to get an adaptor cable of the form "2-Chinch ->
> 3.5mm" (whatever this type of plug is called in English :-). These
> cables are often part of a soundcard package. If you do not own such
> a cable, visit you local Hifi store.
>
> Then connect your sound cards line in with the tapedecks output
> sockets, hit record on your computer and play on you tapedeck.
Also take a look a the package gramofile. It was originally written
to transfer those old "antique analog CDs" (otherwise known as
records) :) to digitized form. I've been using it very successfully
to transfer old Jean Shepherd radio shows on cassette to mp3.
gramofile has a nice graphic (ncurses) VU-meter so you can properly
set record levels. The resulting digitized file is not an mp3,
however. It is a .wav. So you will need to wav to mp3 encoder. I've
used both bladeenc and lame. On my 486/133, lame seems to do a better
job for me. (I'm not sure if lame is debianized.)
Make sure you have plenty of hard drive space available. A 45-minute
radio show ends up as an ~500 MB .wav. When converted to an mp3, it
ranges from ~10 to ~17 MB depending on the bitrate you choose to
encode it at.
> Typically the sound quality of a regular tape is fairly low compared
> to CD's, additionally there is always some background noise created by
> the tape machine's motors. You may be disappointed with the results
Agreed. Tape->mp3 will definitely not be of CD quality. However,
if you are willing to accept the lower sound quality or if there is no
CD available, this might do the trick.
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[OT} firewall question
Quick question about a slink firewall. Its log files have lots of
entries like this (cut to avoid line wrap):
Dec 26 02:28:44 leader kernel: Packet log: out DENY lo PROTO=1 xx.xx.xx.xx:3
xx.xx.xx.xx:1 L=101 S=0xC0 I=57427 F=0x T=#255 (8)
where, xx.xx.xx.xx is the IP of the Ethernet card going to the cable
modem. The firewall (ipchains) is set to deny and log anything not
specifically allowed or denied. Are we breaking something by denying these
ICMP packets? Thanks for the advice.
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Re: mars-nwe
Francois Deppierraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Filename: project/experimental/mars-nwe_0.99pl12-1_i386.deb
No wonder I couldn't find it! Thanks very much.
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hi all...
I'm moving a friend's Red Hat Linux box over to Debian. He was
running the NetWare server emulator package 'mars-nwe' on RH. Now I
need to reinstall it on Debian. I can't find mars-nwe as a .deb. Is
it available? If so, where and what is the package name?
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Help! mgetty & ppp won't play together
"Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > stats molec3 "*" -
> > ^^
> > Is this column supposed to be the local machine name? I can't find it
> > documented anywhere.
>
> Yes, it is. It does seem to be very poorly documented. I think once
> you fix that, you'll be in business.
Okay, that makes sense. I tried it. Something still is right yet. pppd on
the remote machine is still complaining about not finding any secret
(password).
Maybe I'm not starting ppp on my end correctly? I'm using diald. In
diald's connect script, I have it starting up ppp immediately after it
goes through it's login/password passing. Or should I have ppp start up
as soon as the connect script gets the CONNECT from the modem and let
mgetty AutoPP deal with the login/password? If I do it that way, is
mgetty smart enough to continue with the usual login/password prompts
if it doesn't detect ppp running on the caller?
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Re: Help! mgetty & ppp won't play together
"Marc Mongeon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My /etc/ppp/options also contains the following options:
>
> +pap
> -chap
Don't have that in mine, but it's worth a try. :-)
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Re: Help! mgetty & ppp won't play together
John Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have absolutely no idea why, but my slink boxes with ppp-pam
> installed require an extra field in pap-secrets for dial-in PPP
> to work, like so:
> richmolec3 "" * *
>
> If you still have problems after changing "molec3" to your hostname,
> try that.
hmm... That's odd. I'll give it a try and see what happens.
> To any PPP experts out there who know what I'm talking about,
> please tell me what this extra field signifies so I can sleep
> at night...
Indeed. Inquirer minds want to know. :-)
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Re: dpkg-dev / dpkg broke?
Seth R Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There are still four packages left that it isn't upgrading, due to this
> error. I assume the maintainer will fix this thing soon enough, but is there
> any way to get to the other packages until then? :)
I had the same problem. I solved it by doing:
dpkg --install dpkg-dev
dpkg --install dpkg
After that apt was happy again.
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Help! mgetty & ppp won't play together
Good evening all... I'm trying to set up a friend's slink box do allow a
dial-up ppp login. pppd doesnt' want to cooperate. I'm going nuts
to figure what I overlooked.
I'm trying to use mgetty's AutoPPP feature. I have the AutoPPP line
uncommented in /etc/mgetty/login.config. I can log in, but ppp won't start.
It complains:
/usr/sbin/pppd: The remote system is required to authenticate itself but I
/usr/sbin/pppd: couldn't find any secret (password) which would let it use an
IP address.
If I comment out the /AutoPPP/ line in /etc/mgetty/login.config, I can log
as that user but ppp isn't running.
Here are the relevant config files:
/etc/ppp/options (owned: root.root permissions: 644)
asyncmap 0
netmask 255.255.255.0
proxyarp
idle 300
mru 1500
auth <---I've tried both with and without this line
/etc/ppp/options.ttyS1 (owned: root.root permissions: 644)
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192.168.128.1:192.168.128.17
/etc/pap-secrets (owned: root.root permissions: 600) (editted slightly)
# INBOUND connections
# Every regular user can use PPP and has to use passwords from /etc/passwd
#* molec3 "" *
richmolec3 "" *<--the only user allowed to run ppp
# UserIDs that cannot use PPP at all. Check your /etc/passwd and add any
# other accounts that should not be able to use pppd!
guest molec3 "*" -
master molec3 "*" -
rootmolec3 "*" -
support molec3 "*" -
stats molec3 "*" -
^^
Is this column supposed to be the local machine name? I can't find it
documented anywhere.
I heard that sometimes AutoPPP doesn't work right and if you remove the
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets file altogether, it works. I tried doing that. ppp
continues complaining about not finding any secret (password).
Does someone see what I am overlooking? Thanks for the help.
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Re: help: setting up dial-in mail server
On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 02:00:07AM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote: > Why not just set their shell to /bin/false or some such. Thanks. I'll give it a try. bob
help: setting up dial-in mail server
g'day Debianers... It's been a long day. I've been searching through the
HOWTOs and on the Web. My brain is burnt. I need some help! :-)
I set up a Debian (slink) box set up as a mail/file server for a small local
newspaper a few months ago. The same machine connects their Win95 LAN to the
Net through a cable modem. Works great!
Today, I was asked to set up a special use account. They want to allow a few
select users to be able to dial in from a Windows machine to get/send mail
through a POP server and *nothing else*. The "nothing else" was emphasized.
They don't want the users to be able to roam around the Linux box, the
internal LAN or get out on to the Net directly. If the user somehow breaks
out of POP server, they want to connection to die immediately.
I already have a dial-in PPP account for a branch office of the paper.
However, that account it allowed to do anything any local user can do. So
obviously sharing the account it out. I tried two different approaches
today and ran into problems with each. I could use some advice and help on
which is the better approach and some suggestions why it isn't working.
First, I tried setting up another PPP account , but couldn't figure out how to
restrict it to only pop3, imap and smtp. I had it sort of working, however
once the POP or IMAP server exited, the user is dumped into a regular shell.
Definitely not good!
Second, I tried a regular shell account, however the user's .bash_profile
contained:
/bin/stty -echo -onlret
exec /usr/sbin/ipop3d
exit 0
(Probably don't need the last line, but it's there as a "just in case".)
That worked better, but not perfectly. When we ran tests with Eudora Light,
which is what they will be using, we had some problems. Apparently, Eudora
barfs if sees any newlines or echoed characters. This the reason for the
first line. This wasn't reliable though. Watching the output from the ipop3d,
we saw newlines would sometimes get sent, choking Eudora. Try again worked
fine. Try again sometimes it worked correctly other times not.
When it did work, the Windows machine could receive mail just fine. However,
it would hang when it tried to send mail with a "telnet to mail.example.com
port 25". Eventually, it would time out. Other than not reliably passing
mail, the connection died as soon as the POP server died, so that much is
good. :-/
I'm hoping someone has already gotten Eudora to talk to a Debian box. If
not some advice on what I'm doing wrong with either approach would be very
well! Thanks for the help!!
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Re: Death of a 2nd WD hard drive
Sounds like you got a bad batch of drives. I've used Western Digital drives
in 4 Linux boxes I've put together. All machines run 24/7. My own primary
home machine has been running Linux 24/7 for the last 4 years. The only
problem I had was last month when a WD 1.6 GB drive died a sudden and very
noisy death--with only one month left on the warranty. (Guess if it had to
go, that was the best time for it to die. :-)
Given all the Linux installations around the world, *if* Linux could kill
hard drive hardware, we would have discovered it long ago. (And it would
have been fixed *very* quickly. Note how quickly, Alan Cox found and fixed
the remote crash bug in the kernel.)
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Re: why is xdm ignoring the keyboard?
On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 12:20:09AM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> A similar case has been discussed on the list some time ago. Something
I missed it in my search.
> like that happens when multiple programms fight about a virtual
> console. These may be getty, xdm, wdm, gdm or login.app.
I am using mingetty instead of getty and only have xdm installed.
...
> Also check in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers that you don't try to handle a vt
> that is used by getty (in /etc/inittab).
ah HA!! That was it! I had vt 1 through 7 config'ed in inittab and Xservers
was config'ed to use vt7.
I moved it to use vt8. It is working now as it should. Thanks very much for
the clue!!
As a side note, is there collection of these little tidbits of info that are
common knowledge to
Debian old-timers, but known to the Debian (and/or Linux) newbies? I don't
mean the Debian FAQ, though
a section in the FAQ dealing with various config files would be useful. Maybe
it already exists? :-)
bob ...thinking it's cool to be running xdm and X again :-)
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why is xdm ignoring the keyboard?
I'm puzzling over an odd problem. I can run X just fine when I log in as a
normal user and run startx. However, if I let Debian (potato) boot so xdm
is started when the system boots, I can't log in at all. In fact, xdm seems
totally hosed. It won't respond to any keyboard input. The system, itself,
still appears to be functioning. cron still is running its jobs. The mouse
still moves cursor around.
Can someone clue me in what I need to change to get xdm to work properly?
Thanks for the help.
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packets hanging diald
Hi...
Well, this seems to be the time for PPP problems, so here's my
contribution. :-)
I got around to installing diald and using Debian's pon/poff for the last
2 weeks. It very well with one exception. It won't drop the link. It
appears that either Debian or my provider is expecting me to be running
routed. I shouldn't be. I just have a simple dialup PPP connection.
routed is not running. A sample tcpdump of the link looks like this:
(216.44.69.108 == my local IP 216.44.69.3 == remote IP)
16:21:57.722813 216.44.69.3.route > 216.44.69.108.route: rip-resp 5:
{216.44.69.0/255.255.255.0}(1)[|rip] [ttl 1]
16:21:57.722813 216.44.69.108 > 216.44.69.3: icmp: 216.44.69.108 udp port route
unreachable [tos 0xc0]
16:22:05.752813 216.44.69.3.route > 216.44.69.108.route: rip-resp 11:
{216.44.69.26/255.255.255.255}(16)[|rip] [ttl 1]
16:22:05.752813 216.44.69.108 > 216.44.69.3: icmp: 216.44.69.108 udp port route
unreachable [tos 0xc0]
16:22:12.882813 216.44.69.3.route > 216.44.69.108.route: rip-resp 25:
{216.44.69.0/255.255.255.0}(1)[|rip] [ttl 1]
16:22:12.882813 216.44.69.108 > 216.44.69.3: (frag 127:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [tos
0xc0]
16:22:12.882813 216.44.69.108 > 216.44.69.3: icmp: 216.44.69.108 udp port route
unreachable (frag 127:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [tos 0xc0]
16:22:13.252813 216.44.69.3.route > 216.44.69.108.route: rip-resp 25:
{216.44.69.29/255.255.255.255}(1)[|rip] [ttl 1]
Can anyone tell me what is causing this and how to stop it, if it should be
stopped, or how to get diald to ignore it?
(System info: Debian potato, 2.2.9 kernel)
TIA ... bob
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Re: HELP: EXT2-fs error
On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 04:23:41PM +1000, Rob wrote: > Have you run fsck on the partition? Its probably the best place to start > with disk problems. Yes, that was one of the first things I did. The partition came up clean.
HELP: EXT2-fs error
Hi all...
I'm running a full Potato system (2.2.9 kernel). Tonight, for the first
time, I got an error I've never seen before in the 4 years I've been running
Linux full-time. I'm hoping this is bug in Potato and not something more
serious with my system.
The error popped up when Debian was doing it's nightly housekeeping
in /etc/cron.daily ...
EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,69)): ext2_readdir: directory #4148 contains a
hole at offset 1024
EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,69)): ext2_readdir: directory #4148 contains a
hole at offset 2048
EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,69)): ext2_readdir: directory #4148 contains a
hole at offset 3072
EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,69)): ext2_readdir: directory #4148 contains a
hole at offset 4096
EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,69)): ext2_readdir: directory #4148 contains a
hole at offset 5120
EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,69)): ext2_readdir: directory #4148 contains a
hole at offset 6144
EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,69)): ext2_readdir: directory #4148 contains a
hole at offset 7168
EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,69)): ext2_readdir: directory #4148 contains a
hole at offset 8192
3,69 is the /dev/hdb5 partition on my hard drive which is mounted on /usr. I
presumed the directory #4148 referred to an inode. So I did an
'ls -lRi |less' to see if I could figure out where the problem was. I tracked
it down to the directory /usr/share/texmf/omega/plain/config. I confirmed
it when I tried to 'ls' on the directory and got the same error as above.
Is this a bug in Potato TeX package or a problem with my system? How do I
fix it? Is it safe to rmdir that directory and recreate it?
TIA for the help.
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bash weirdness under potato?
I did a fresh install of slink. The installation is pretty complete as
far as the number of packages go. I configured everything the way I
wanted. I worked very well! (Nice job Debian developers!!)
Since I don't mind living on the bleeding edge with this particular
machine, I decided to upgrade to potato. After that, bash started
acting flaky.
I can login and run any program I want; that works just fine. However, if
I have the shell prompt and, say, try to use tab completion, bash will
just die (no core dumps). I will be left looking at the 'login:' prompt.
It also dies if I am typing in a long path and don't use tab completion at
all. And it dies randomly, too. I can just login and do nothing more
after some random amount of time (< 5 minutes), I'm logged out.
bash is acting almost it's environment variable TMOUT is set, but that
doesn't seem to be the case. It is possible there is something weird
about my machine (AMD 486/133 with 36 MB). However, that is not likely.
This machine is up 24/7 and normally is running Red Hat v5.2 (installed on
a separate partition). Never a sign of flakiness. Slink also was very
stable in over a week of running. Does anyone have any ideas what is
going on?
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2.2 kernel under slink?
I have a machine with a fresh install of Slink. (This is *not* the same
machine in my previous message which has the bash weirdness under potato.)
I have been running the 2.2 kernel on a Red Hat v5.2 machine for the last
few months. I want to do the same on the new Debian machine.
I looked on Debian's web page and found the 'gotchas' about running 2.2 on
Slink. Unfortunately, the instructions seem a bit dated. I guess they
were written before potato switched to glibc2.1. dpkg now complains about
needing glibc2.1 when I tried to install the needed packages from potato.
Upgrading from 2.0.x to 2.2.x kernels only needs upgrading only of other
bits of software (i.e. modutils, procps, ipchains, etc.). I have no
problem doing this manually. My question is will I break Slink by going
this route? If so, is there a more proper way?
Sorry if this is a FAQ, but the info on Debian page no longer seems
accurate. Thanks for the help.
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[DHCPC] eth0 disappears after booting
Hi all! I am working on setting up a gateway for a small local
newspaper's LAN--using Debian, naturally. :-) They recently had the local
cable company (Comcast) provide Internet access. I installed the Debian
DHCPC client from the 1.3 CD-ROM. DHCPC sort of works. Here's what is
happening.
The Ethernet cards are both 3Com (a 509 and 590). The kernel properly
finds each one and assigns it to eth0 and eth1 on boot-up. DHCPC seems to
start up okay. Right after booting up ifconfig shows both eth0 and eth1
are seen. 'route -n' shows eth0 (cable modem) as being the gateway with
the proper IP address. *BUT* we can't reach the 'outside world' (pings
fail).
Within about 60 seconds, the cable modem 'PC' light goes out indicating
the cable modem no longers sees eth0. Running ifconfig shows eth0 is
gone and only eth1 (the LAN) remains. 'route -n' also shows the cable
modem has vanished.
Then I manually run '/etc/init.d/network start' (as root). *Everything*
works. eth0 is back. route shows the cable modem is back. The cable
modem is happy *AND* we can now reach the outside world! This is really
weird behavior and has me baffled.
Supposedly. dhcpcd puts info in the /etc/dhcpcd directory after it
initially talks to the cable modem. Nothing has gotten added or changed.
A few weeks ago, I read on the list about 3Com driver insisting on making
eth0 the card with the lowest hardware address. I also experienced this
and made the necessary changes. That problem disappeared, so I don't
think the cable modem problem is related.
I'm sure I'm missing something obvious but just don't see it. Can anyone
offer any help? Thanks!
bob
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Re: [HELP] Netscape & RealAudio & plug-ins
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Weird, it's there for me... did you try clicking on "Navigator" or the
>little triangle to the left of "Navigator"? That should give you a
>dropdown with new menuentries, among them "Applications"
DOH!!! I was clicking on word 'Navigator'. That gives only the Navigator
home page selection box. I clicked on the the little triangle and sure
enough there was everything else. Thanks!
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[HELP] Netscape & RealAudio & plug-ins
This isn't particularly Debian-specific. My apologies for being off
topic.
I finally broke down and installed Netscape (Communicator 4.03) on my
Debian system. I also downloaded the RealAudio player (5.0 beta version).
The problem is getting Netscape to recognize the player or any other
plug-in for that manner.
Supposedly, in 4.0, you choose Prefences from the Edit menu. In
Prefences, you then select Navigator -> Applications. Well, there is no
'Applications' choice there or anywhere else that I can find.
Any clues where to edit? I presume ~/.netscape/preferences is the correct
file. However, I'm not familiar enough with Netscape to know what to add.
Any help would be welcome. Thanks.
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Re: Best Ethernet Card
On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Fredrik Ax wrote:
>> The other card I see mentioned a lot, but never see much as far as
>> recommendations, is the Intel EtherExpress 100. Anyone have any
>> thoughts on those?
>
>I'm using an EtherExpress 100 together with Linux. The only problem
>I've had, was finding the driver! It is (was?) not included in the
Be careful. My brother had what we thought was the 100. It turned out
(after searching Intel's Web page) that it was an EtherExpress 100 Pro.
In the email words of author of the EE 100 driver, the EE Pro is different
beast altogether and the driver won't work with it.
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Re: [X] why does X kill my modem?
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Tim Sailer wrote:
>> ttyS0 and ttyS2 are IRQ 3
>> ttyS1 and ttyS3 are IRQ 4
>
>This *will* be the problem. You have 2 sets of hardware sitting
>on the same irqs. This will cause confusion. With standard serial
The old story of telling someone 'you can't do it' when they don't know
they can't do it. :-)
I have this set up running under Linux for almost 2 years now and never
had problem--so long as I don't run X. (Knock on silicon!)
>ports, this will never work reliably. Can you set any of the ports
>to another irq?
I should be able to. I'll give it a try and see what happens.
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Re: POV-ray?
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Greg Vence wrote:
>Does anyone who uses POV know why I cann't see http://www.pov.org/ ?
Try www.povray.org, instead.
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Re: [X] why does X kill my modem?
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, I wrote:
>ttyS0 and ttyS3 are IRQ 3
>ttyS2 and ttyS4 are IRQ 4
I *meant* to type:
ttyS0 and ttyS2 are IRQ 3
ttyS1 and ttyS3 are IRQ 4
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Re: [X] why does X kill my modem?
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Tim Sailer wrote:
>What IRQs are you using for all these? If you are sharing 3 and 4 between
>3 devices, that could be the problem.
ttyS0 and ttyS3 are IRQ 3
ttyS2 and ttyS4 are IRQ 4
I keep the modem (on ttyS4) separate from the mouse (on ttyS0) to avoid
conflicts.
The X10 controller on ttyS3 should not be a problem. It uses a software
UART. It *never* sends anything on its own. It only sends something in
response to a query from my machine. That only happens once a week in the
early morning hours to sync the controller's clock. It also happens
occasionally to update the controller to adjust for seasonal changes.
All this works fine when X is not running. This is why I'm puzzled to
what X is changing.
Any other ideas?
Bob
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[X] why does X kill my modem?
Hi all...
Oh no! He's back with another problem. :-)
This one has me really puzzled. When I run X, I can't dial out with my
modem. Until recently, I didn't run X very much so I pretty much forgot
about the problem. Now I want to start using X more so the problem needs
to be solved.
My machine is a 486/133 (AMD's fast 486 chip) with VLB bus. It has 4
serial ports (ttyS0 to S3). ttyS0 and ttyS1 are 16450 UARTs on the
floppy/hard drive controller. ttyS2 and ttyS3 are 16550 UARTs on a
separate card. My system is configured like this:
ttyS0 serial mouse
ttyS1 unused
ttyS2 X10 controller (unused most of the time)
ttyS3 modem (USR 33.6, external)
The modem is on ttyS3 to avoid IRQ conflicts with the mouse. I use mgetty
and run diald (v1.16.4) to bring up the connection to my ISP. I can also
use minicom to dialup local BBSs, etc. This all works very well when X
isn't running, so I know it isn't a hardware problem.
THE PROBLEM: When I start X, diald can no longer bring up my PPP
connection. I can't use minicom to dial out. ttyS3 is completely hosed,
i.e. the modem lights don't flicker so the modem isn't getting any
commands. I stuck a Radio Shack RS-232 mini-tester (just LEDs on each of
the 8 lines) to watch the status of the port. Nothing is getting through.
When I kill the X server, the port remains dead. I can't use minicom or
get diald to bring up the PPP connection. The only way to restore things
to normal is ctrl-alt-del.
Is there something buried in X which enables/disables the serial ports?
If so, what and where? If not, does anyone have suggestions as to what
might be going on here?
TIA...
Bob
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Re: magicfilter & Espon Stylus Color II
Thanks to everyone who sent me info on getting my Epson Stylus Color II
working under Linux. It works great! Some of the colors are quite right,
but I can live with this!
Thanks again!
Bob
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magicfilter & Espon Stylus Color II
Has anyone already gotten magicfilter to work with the Espon Stylus Color
II (ink jet) printer? Is is compatiable with one of the other Espon ink
printers? I don't want to write my own configuration file if it has
already been done.
Thanks.
Bob
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broke dpkpg files :-( help?
Messing around with my machine this afternoon, I broke the files in
/var/lib/dpkg somehow.
Although the system is still intact and stable, dselect thinks nothing is
installed. How do I used dpkg to rebuild the appropriate files so dselect
and dpkg are happy again?
I seem to remember someone asking a similar question when the last few
months. However, searching the mail list archives didn't turn up
anything.
Help?Thanks.
Bob
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Re: using cable modem with Debian?
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote:
>I fail to understand why diald is needed at all. These are cable
>modems, right? The cable modems we're using are Zeniths ... 4Mbps
I wasn't sure. I have never used them before so this is new to me.
>Am I missing something here, or are you? :)
Most likely me. :-)
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Re: nice job with Debian CD-ROM!
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: >by Debian. You might want to email them about that (i.e. the typo), but I >guess they probably have heard about it already... And I heard back from them. You are right. It is was a typo. Guess I now have an Official "Oficial" Debian 1.3 CD-ROM. >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 7 12:43:30 1997 From: Sales Information <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Bob Billson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Comments From LSL Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nothing was left out. I sorry to say the "oficial" is a typo You can forward this to the Debian Lists Thanks Bradley -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: using cable modem with Debian?
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
>Sounds a lot like dhcp, try using the dhcpcd (client daemon) package. The
Thanks. We'll give it a try tomorrow.
>attack). I haven't the slightest idea how diald would work with dhcpcd, I
>just left mine connected all day.
He probably be switching between Win95 and Linux fairly regular...at least
in the beginning. He use the machine for both his business and
play. I don't think he wants to leave Linux on the net continously. So
bringing down link would be important.
I'm probably missing something real obvious. However, after an
all-nighter my brain is somewhat fuzzy. :)
Bob
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Re: nice job with Debian CD-ROM!
On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Christian Hudon wrote:
>Thanks for the nice words. I'm sure the "oficial" is just a typo. If memory
Could be a typo. However, the way the word "Oficial" (with the quotes) is
printed on the CD, it appears to be intentional.
>by Debian. You might want to email them about that (i.e. the typo), but I
I did. No answer yet.
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using cable modem with Debian?
Since I'll be installing 1.3 on my brother's machine this Tuesday, I have
a question about cable modems. Though not strictly limited to Debian, I
thought some folks here might have already gone down this road.
My brother got a net connection from our local cable company. The tech
who came to install the software (Win95) even knew about Linux and how to
pronounce it correctly (wow!) He said they did have some problems with
get Linux to work. The connections would just die random. Since he
wasn't really well versed in Linux he didn't mention the important details
like which distribution or even kernel version.
What I need to know for Tuesday is how to get Debian to work with the
cable modem.
The modem is connected to the cable company all the time. The IP address
is dynamically assigned. Even if the connection goes down for a short
while, the same IP address is used when the connection comes back up. The
output of the modem goes to an Ethernet card in the machine.
I'll be using diald, unless there is a good reason not to. Beyond this
I'm not sure how to go. I saw a DHCPD (or was it DHCPCD?) client as one
of the .deb packages. My brother said this sounded like what the cable
modem uses now talking to Win95. Should we install this for Debian? If
so, how to get it going?
Any help will be most welcome. Thanks!
Bob
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nice job with Debian CD-ROM!
Hi all,
I received my Linux Systems Labs "Oficial" [sic] Debian 1.3 CD-ROM
yesterday. I spent last night doing a new install to a spare hard drive.
Congratulations to the Debian volunteers! You folks did a *really* nice
job with the 1.3 CD!
I did complete floppyless install--and it went with almost no problem.
The only problem I did have was my fault. I kept insisting the CD drive
was /dev/hdc instead of /dev/hdd like the kernel kept telling me.
Once I got it right, everything went very smoothly. I did find that
installing in groups avoided all problems with missing files.
I have one suggestion. Do add something to the README and/or install
files on the CD about doing floppyless installations. It doesn't have to
be long. Being familiar with Debian, I figured how to boot off the CD. A
total newbie might have more difficult since there is no mention of how to
do a floppyless installation.
Mentioning installing in groups might also be a good idea. It could save
folks a lot of frustration.
Other than these minor points, you guys *really* did a nice job! Keep up
the good work!
I am curious what the difference is between the 'Official Debian 1.3' and
LSL's '"Oficial" Debian 1.3'. I thought I saw something that if the CD
vendor changes or doesn't use something they can't use the former title.
What did LSL not use or leave out?
Tuesday, I install 1.3 on my brother's machine. We tried installing 1.2
and upgrading to 1.3 about a week ago. Unfortunately we ran into problems
and out of time. Since the 1.3 was already ordered, we decided to wait
for it.
Bob
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1.2 to 1.3 short cut?
Another question related to installing Debian on my brother's machine
tomorrow. Can we partially install 1.2 and upgrade to 1.3 over the net?
By partially install, I mean install all the required and important
packages from the 1.2 CD-ROM. Then get networking going. From there
do a complete upgrade from 1.2 to 1.3. Anyone foresee any problems with
doing this?
Or should we do a complete installation of 1.2 before we upgrade?
Thanks for the help.
Bob
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1.3 disks to install 1.2?
Tomorrow, I am going to be helping one of my brothers install Debian on
his machine. He has the last Cheap Bytes 1.2.x CD-ROM. I have the Debian
installation disk images for 1.3.0. Is there a good reason why we
shouldn't use this set to install 1.2? Are we asking for headaches and
should stick with the 1.2 set?
Thanks. By tomorrow afternoon, we should have another [Debian] Linux
convert. :)
Bob
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multi-volume backups with taper?
Has anyone been successful using taper to backup to multiple tapes? If so,
what is the secret? :-) I can't get passed the first tape.
I'm trying to do a full backup of my system. My floppy tape drive is a Iomega
Ditto drive (QIC-80). I am using it with zftape (v1.06) instead of ftape
driver. taper works fine until it gets to the end of the first tape. It then
aborts with a write error and dies.
The odd thing is when I try a test restore with the same tape, taper asks for
the next tape when it reaches the end.
Right now, I'm forced to do full backups in pieces, i.e. couple of directories
at a time. This is wasteful of both time and tape.
Any help would be most welcome. TIA!
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@SUBJECT:Re: Debian (not Linux) newbie N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >use multi-volume backups as I do them off-line anyway. I just define my >backup "volumes" such that they will fit on one 170 MB tape. That holds >/etc, /home and /usr/local, which is all I need. My /home and /usr/local are two of the places which have exceeded the limits of a single tape. Guess I have to come up with another way then. One alternative is a commercial program such as BRU. I've heard it is a good program, but I have no experience with it. Thanks anyway for the reply, Dirk. Bob ... * ATP/Linux 1.42 * Linux, the choice of a GNU generation.
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@SUBJECT:Debian (not Linux) newbie question #1 N Hi all, I've been running Linux for almost a year now. I started with Slackware, moved to Red Hat 3.0.3 now I want to move to Debian. I will be moving Red Hat to another machine once I get Debian configured the way I want. I am having two problems getting things set up. One is related to Debian, the other is more Linux in general but I hope someone can get me pointed in the proper direction. First problem is about the backup utilities tob and taper. Up until recently, I have been able to backup my hard drives to tape (floppy tape drive using zftape v1.05) using a single 200 MB (uncompressed) tape. The drive is 1.6 GB and until recently it has not been too full. However, I have now reached the point where I need more than one tape and this is where my trouble started. When I use tob and get to the end of the first tape, afio doesn't prompt for another tape. All it is does it print a 'tape full' error for every remaining file. In /etc/tob.rc, I have the BACKUPCMD set to: BACKUPCMD='afio -oxZv -b 10240 -s0 -T 3k -G 9 $BACKUPDEV < $FILELIST' The -b 10240 was necessary because without it afio complains about a bad block size while writing to the tape. If I understand the man page for afio, -s0 should make afio pause when a tape fills. It doesn't. With -s0, afio behavior is the same. It keeps trying writing to the full tape. I tried using using taper (with zftape). When the tape fills up, taper chokes with a child segmentation error in a dialog box. If I click on the 'OK', taper just hangs. When I didn't fill the tape, taper would work just fine. I've seen folks mention on the list use both tob and taper with success, so I must be doing something wrong. Can someone give me a clue to what it is? :-) Thanks! Bob ... * ATP/Linux 1.42 * Linux, the choice of a GNU generation.
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@SUBJECT:Debian (not Linux) newbie question #2 N Hi again all... Question #2 of problems getting Debian install. I tried a test install of Pacific Hi-Tech's Debian 1.1.1 CD-ROM on another hard drive (not the one I'm trying to backup) on Friday. All went okay until I got to the part about making a boot floppy. When prompted I stuck a blank floppy in drive a:. The installation program churned out a bunch of 'probing for floppy0' messages and eventually died with 'can't find device' error. I figured it was a bad floppy, so I stuck in another. Same result. Stuck in a third disk. Same thing again. I finally booted Red Hat and just copied over my 2.0.17 kernel to a floppy, ran rdev to set / properly. When I rebooted with the floppy Debian came up. My question is, am I doing something wrong with the Debian installation or is there a bug in 1.1.1? Debian looks like an interesting Linux distribution to play with--as soon as I get things properly backed up and installed. :-) Thanks in advance for any help y'all can offer. Bob ... * ATP/Linux 1.42 * Linux, the choice of a GNU generation.
Debian (not Linux) newbie
@SUBJECT:Debian (not Linux) newbie question #1 N Hi all, I've been running Linux for almost a year now. I started with Slackware, moved to Red Hat 3.0.3 now I want to move to Debian. I will be moving Red Hat to another machine once I get Debian configured the way I want. I am having two problems getting things set up. One is related to Debian, the other is more Linux in general but I hope someone can get me pointed in the proper direction. First problem is about the backup utilities tob and taper. Up until recently, I have been able to backup my hard drives to tape (floppy tape drive using zftape v1.05) using a single 200 MB (uncompressed) tape. The drive is 1.6 GB and until recently it has not been too full. However, I have now reached the point where I need more than one tape and this is where my trouble started. When I use tob and get to the end of the first tape, afio doesn't prompt for another tape. All it is does it print a 'tape full' error for every remaining file. In /etc/tob.rc, I have the BACKUPCMD set to: BACKUPCMD='afio -oxZv -b 10240 -s0 -T 3k -G 9 $BACKUPDEV < $FILELIST' The -b 10240 was necessary because without it afio complains about a bad block size while writing to the tape. If I understand the man page for afio, -s0 should make afio pause when a tape fills. It doesn't. With -s0, afio behavior is the same. It keeps trying writing to the full tape. I tried using using taper (with zftape). When the tape fills up, taper chokes with a child segmentation error in a dialog box. If I click on the 'OK', taper just hangs. When I didn't fill the tape, taper would work just fine. I've seen folks mention on the list use both tob and taper with success, so I must be doing something wrong. Can someone give me a clue to what it is? :-) Thanks! Bob ... * ATP/Linux 1.42 * Linux, the choice of a GNU generation.
Debian (not Linux) newbie
@SUBJECT:Debian (not Linux) newbie question #2 N Hi again all... Question #2 of problems getting Debian install. I tried a test install of Pacific Hi-Tech's Debian 1.1.1 CD-ROM on another hard drive (not the one I'm trying to backup) on Friday. All went okay until I got to the part about making a boot floppy. When prompted I stuck a blank floppy in drive a:. The installation program churned out a bunch of 'probing for floppy0' messages and eventually died with 'can't find device' error. I figured it was a bad floppy, so I stuck in another. Same result. Stuck in a third disk. Same thing again. I finally booted Red Hat and just copied over my 2.0.17 kernel to a floppy, ran rdev to set / properly. When I rebooted with the floppy Debian came up. My question is, am I doing something wrong with the Debian installation or is there a bug in 1.1.1? Debian looks like an interesting Linux distribution to play with--as soon as I get things properly backed up and installed. :-) Thanks in advance for any help y'all can offer. Bob ... * ATP/Linux 1.42 * Linux, the choice of a GNU generation.
