Re: [slim] Thank you so much, and good bye :)

2013-11-10 Thread pippin

They did sell the Touch for quite a while but they dismantled most of
the development team even before the release.



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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread DJanGo

Hi,

Wol is a complex thing.
its Hard  Softwarebased.
So please describe your Network and what Versions / Os you have (with
the problems)

Basic is:
The Bios/UEFI has a Menü - WOL must be enabled.
The Switch/ Router has a Map this MAC Adress is here this Mac
Address is there and that MacAdress is internal unknown.

May it helps to put Reserved Ips for your stuff - then the Router knows
that MAC Address is local.

To tell you about my office - everytime i get a new (fresh) System i
cant WOL it up - even when i know the MAC. It has to be online one time.
(But i dont poweroff the switches/Router)
If a winblows system bluescreens and i shut it down / or i shut it
down the Hard way - i cant wol it on.
It has to start clean one Time.

So ves - there is some knowledge (for working WOL) inside your Stuff
that is lost when you power it off.

cheers



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Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile

2013-11-10 Thread kipeta

IMPORTANT bug fix for CD ripping (bug in previous 13.11-b091420 build).

Update via your Daphile web UI or download from www.daphile.com.



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Re: [slim] Thank you so much, and good bye :)

2013-11-10 Thread ModelCitizen

Mnyb wrote: 
 
 Yes it still has a display with I think is  fine.
Display good, but including an expensive touch screen in a device
tethered to your hifi by short audio leads when almost anyone who would
be interested in buying it already had a smart phone, wireless network
and could buy a controller app for under $5 was a strange thing to do.

Mind you, if sales were that good..



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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb

The server is HP microserver N36L with clear OS 6 beta ( redhat Linux )

WOL is enabled in bios it works for my daily and weekly use , the
problem only occurs after a long time away .

The router is an old linksys wrt54L with tomato firmware there are some
simple Netgear switches in use ( blue small officestuff no settings or
advanced features ) .

Basically it's Internet to router , router to switches then all
computers server and desktop are wired two squeezeboxes are wired.

It's one network with one subnet as simple as you can have it .

Server , computer and squeezeboxes have static network adresses outside
of the routers DCHP pool .
Combined with switches that means that the desktop and the server can
comunicate even when the router is down .

That's why I suspect the NIC in the server as I use etherwake on my
desktop ( the desktop is linux mint )that basically is wired to the
server and send a magic package aimed at the correct mac for th server
NIC ?

Alsomthe tomato router software has a feature where can manually input
the correct mac and WOL stuff, this does not work either

I may try to experiment with the server if it's NIC forgots it supposed
to listen for WOL after prolonged off .

I may start there pulling the power cable out of the server for a bit
longer time .




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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb

Due to my erratic travel schedule I have no clue to exactly how long I
have to be away = not using the equipment




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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread d6jg

I'd say likely to be the router forgetting the location of the server
due to inactivity. ARP tables etc



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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb

d6jg wrote: 
 I'd say likely to be the router forgetting the location of the server
 due to inactivity. ARP tables etc

But is not wol supposed to work over broadcast ? if i use an utility
where i can manually spec the mac anything on the net with that mac
should wake up ?

But keep the ideas coming , I'm not in a hurry is this is not disturbing
functionality in the day to day use .




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Re: [slim] Installing a Squeezebox system in a car

2013-11-10 Thread Otto-Wilhelm

JJZolx wrote: 
 That seems rather clunky. Can't you attach a touch screen to the
 computer? I'd use SqueezePlay instead of Squeezelite and then develop a
 skin for the native resolution of the monitor.

I see no disadvantage of using IPeng, which I use at home as well for
controlling my different Squeezebox devices. In the car the iPhone is
placed in a cradle fixed to the dashboard to be conveniently accessible
during driving. There is no need for accessing other functionalities of
the Fit-PC during driving. When something has do be done, I do this via
remote desktop using a laptop. Windows Homeserver is intended for
headless application, not having a local monitor.



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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread DJanGo

Mnyb wrote: 
 Server , computer and squeezeboxes have static network adresses outside
 of the routers DCHP pool .
 Combined with switches that means that the desktop and the server can
 comunicate even when the router is down.
 
 That's why I suspect the NIC in the server as I use etherwake on my
 desktop ( the desktop is linux mint )that basically is wired to the
 server and send a magic package aimed at the correct mac for th server
 NIC ?
 I may start there pulling the power cable out of the server for a bit
 longer time .

Hi,

please try to use additional dhcp reserved addresses also - your right
Servers should have fixed / static Adresses.
it may help
But dont remove the power cable, that wont fix nothing.

Mnyb wrote: 
 But is not wol supposed to work over broadcast ? if i use an utility
 where i can manually spec the mac anything on the net with that mac
 should wake up ?
yupp - but the bios or uefi hasnt a complete Ipstack. I knew some
Systems that even if the Nic is plugged to a switch and the Server / PC
is plugged to the power the nics wont blink unless you start them (equal
if completly to the os or just with the enter Bios key pressed)

Mnyb wrote: 
 But keep the ideas coming , I'm not in a hurry is this is not disturbing
 functionality in the day to day use.

as d6jg also mentioned - the arpcache should be one of the things to
sort out first. And you can use the trick with the reserved ips (in the
dhcp / Router) to find out if it helps or not.
To make that clear - i dont want you to enable DHCP or reserved Address
in the server itself - just in the router!



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Re: [slim] Thank you so much, and good bye :)

2013-11-10 Thread aubuti

ModelCitizen wrote: 
 Display good, but including an expensive touch screen in a device 
Except the touchscreen isn't expensive at all. Similar screens are on
every dime-a-dozen phone, GPS, etc. It may have seemed a lot fancier
than the VFD screens that had been used in previous SBs, but it was
actually a big cost saver in comparison.



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Re: [slim] Installing a Squeezebox system in a car

2013-11-10 Thread Julf

Otto-Wilhelm wrote: 
 I see no disadvantage of using IPeng, which I use at home as well for
 controlling my different Squeezebox devices. In the car the iPhone is
 placed in a cradle fixed to the dashboard to be conveniently accessible
 during driving. There is no need for accessing other functionalities of
 the Fit-PC during driving. When something has do be done, I do this via
 remote desktop using a laptop. Windows Homeserver is intended for
 headless application, not having a local monitor.

I still use the good old empeg in my car - the most important reason is
the user interface where everything can be done completely by feel,
without taking your eyes off the road.



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Re: [slim] Thank you so much, and good bye :)

2013-11-10 Thread ModelCitizen

You do need to factor in the programming required but the main point is
not the cost its the fact that the inclusion of a touch screen so
closely tethered to the HiFi when virtually everyone had a hand held
controller in the shape of a smart phone seemed a bit misguided.

Certainly for me the number of times I use the touch interface is
vanishingly small. It is pretty though.



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Re: [slim] Thank you so much, and good bye :)

2013-11-10 Thread garym

I rarely use the touch screen, and in one of my touches it is in a
cabinet where I don't even see it. However, based on lots of posts (even
a recent thread about the catch 22 of setting up SB3 without remote), it
seems to me to be important to have some easy mechanism for setting up
or occasionally accessing the SB player *other than* use of a remote or
web interface.



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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread epoch1970

The MAC will disappear from the ARP table after a while. But as you use
the broadcast address this should not be an issue. 

Enters power management. 
For a few years now PCs which are euro-compliant are mandated to feature
a power off mode ~ 1Wh. Many (all?) machines will reach this level only
with the Ethernet board fully powered off. In this mode the thing is
dead, no matter of WOL will wake the computer. A bios option should be
available to engage/ disable the feature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standby_power

Same goes for green Ethernet switches/routers. These will modulate the
power applied to an Ethernet port according to the detected cable
length, negotiated speed, and will power off ports which are not
connected (or connected to a dead link, I suppose.)  I believe the
amount of power saved by port is minuscule; but considering a sparely
populated 16-port switch operating 24/365, I suppose the initiative
makes sense. I your router/switch is of the green Ethernet kind, you
will probably find an option related to power in its management
interface. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Ethernet

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[slim] Multiple Playlists with Napster (aka Rhapsody)

2013-11-10 Thread justwords

My kids all listen to Music via Napster/Rhapsody streaming (Napster is
the name for Rhapsody in europe). Ist there a way to save tracks to
separate playlists instead of just to favourites? And if i wipe and
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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb

Thank's again ! i will read this more carefully when i get home .

Why i wanted to pull the plug was to test if the root cause is that the
server looses its memory , before investigating more complex causes . It
can be that simple as everything works fine ( including wol ) when i'm
around .




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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb

One part solved for now ( I must gather more data after a long stay from
home ).

Fact I forgot to mention i use WOL to boot the server it's not ojust the
standby part .

The server NIC can't remember a thing even if remove the power just a
couple of seconds . So power cable must be in even if the server is
off .

Experiment : 

disconnected the router from network ( to exclude any issues there and
also exclude help from recent arp cache ) desktop pc off iPeng off .

Turned off the server from the  front button ( confirmed OS shutdown )
pressed on on my boom who happens to be conected to the same switch ,
the server booted up fine .

Now I briefly removed power from the server , tried to WOL again no
sucess . Know I know that .

Server will now WOL as usual until next power outage .

What surprised me was that it has no memory backup for this ? , so while
I'm away working on some project I migth very well have some short power
outage at home who I'm unaware of . That explain some of the occasions
when this won't work .
NIC is on the mobo and the mobo remembers time and other settings so it
has functioning backup battery it just this setting that gets dropped .
So either it is a setting I can change in the bios or more likely this
settings is not stored in any fprom just volatile memory so it is this
way nothing to do really . It migth even be so that the network hardware
just sits on the mobo but does not really share any memory and
functionality with the bios and is its own thing anyway .

And I also tested that my wired players can WOL the server without any
help from the router .




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Re: [slim] Installing a Squeezebox system in a car

2013-11-10 Thread JJZolx

It just seems like a LOT of equipment required to do something
relatively simple.



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Re: [slim] Installing a Squeezebox system in a car

2013-11-10 Thread garym

True. But people say the same about my home setup. For the car I simply
plug in my iPhone which has some tunes that I change now and then. I
don't need my 75k tracks with me. Then again, my commute is 5 to 8
minutes depending on the traffic light (or a 25 minute stroll). For our
few long trips we use audio books, podcasts (all iPhone) or Siriusxm. 

I used to carry a small USB drive with a lossy version of my library
with my laptop. But now when travelling, I just use spotify. 

Still, I'm impressed with his car setup.



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Re: [slim] Installing a Squeezebox system in a car

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb

Still nothing of this exclude each other .

Squeezelite is better and more configurable as a player these days and
can easilly be installed with the local player plugin , done .
That would not exclude SqueezePlay as a possible UI among many .

But then again iPeng is the better UI imo and easy to instal as there
are charching cradles everywhere .

Impressive effort I often ride a bike to my work when I'm not away on a
project somewhere .

The lazy days when I use the car it's 5 minute with spotify or ( 3,5 km
on bike ) however I tend to be lazy in the middle of the winters here in
Sweden :)

My hotell companion these days are spotify and a couple of books I don't
bother conecting to my own LMS remotely or bring files anymore ( I used
to ) besides the work away from the office tend to be busy not much time
for anything else than work .




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Re: [slim] Thank you so much, and good bye :)

2013-11-10 Thread aubuti

ModelCitizen wrote: 
 You do need to factor in the programming required. 
That may well have been the larger share of the cost, but a lot of that
was probably easy to spin off from the beginnings of SqueezeOS on the SB
Controller.

ModelCitizen wrote: 
 But the main point is not the cost. The main point is that the inclusion
 of a touch screen so closely tethered to a HiFi virtually everyone who
 would want one already had a hand held controller in the shape of a
 smart phone seemed a bit misguided.
And then there are those of us for whom the smartphone is a Blackberry
-- still no good controller apps out there yet for the BB, although I
suppose BB10 takes some Android ports. Since getting an iPad I don't use
the touchscreen as much, but I have used it a surprising amount, even
after getting an iPod touch specifically for the purpose of controlling
my SBs.



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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread induna

Mnyb wrote: 
 One part solved for now ( I must gather more data after a long stay from
 home ).
 
 Fact I forgot to mention i use WOL to boot the server it's not ojust the
 standby part .
 
 The server NIC can't remember a thing even if remove the power just a
 couple of seconds . So power cable must be in even if the server is
 off .
 
 Experiment : 
 
 disconnected the router from network ( to exclude any issues there and
 also exclude help from recent arp cache ) desktop pc off iPeng off .
 
 Turned off the server from the  front button ( confirmed OS shutdown )
 pressed on on my boom who happens to be conected to the same switch ,
 the server booted up fine .
 
 Now I briefly removed power from the server , tried to WOL again no
 sucess . Know I know that .
 
 Server will now WOL as usual until next power outage .
 
 What surprised me was that it has no memory backup for this ? , so while
 I'm away working on some project I migth very well have some short power
 outage at home who I'm unaware of . That explain some of the occasions
 when this won't work .
 NIC is on the mobo and the mobo remembers time and other settings so it
 has functioning backup battery it just this setting that gets dropped .
 So either it is a setting I can change in the bios or more likely this
 settings is not stored in any fprom just volatile memory so it is this
 way nothing to do really . It migth even be so that the network hardware
 just sits on the mobo but does not really share any memory and
 functionality with the bios and is its own thing anyway .
 
 And I also tested that my wired players can WOL the server without any
 help from the router .

I had the same issue with my Vortexbox.  I had to edit
/usr/local/sbin/network_up.sh and add the following 'echo ethtool -s
eth0 wol g | at now + 1 minute' to set the WOL configuration after the
network had started. This is with Fedora 16, so YMMV.



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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb

induna wrote: 
 I had the same issue with my Vortexbox.  I had to edit
 /usr/local/sbin/network_up.sh and add the following 'echo ethtool -s
 eth0 wol g | at now + 1 minute' to set the WOL configuration after the
 network had started. This is with Fedora 16, so YMMV.

Really ? I'll check my configuration , I have something similar already
so WOL is working but it was years since I've done that .
Do your vbox handle the total loss of power case ?




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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread induna

Mnyb wrote: 
 Really ? I'll check my configuration , I have something similar already
 so WOL is working but it was years since I've done that .
 Do your vbox handle the total loss of power case ?

Yes, it does. I believe that the problem was a timing issue. Although
the WOL setting was correct, it was being applied before the network
interface loaded and wasn't taking effect on the initial boot from power
off/sutdown, but did take effect after re-boots. The work-around
re-applies the proper configuration after the network has been up for 1
minute. You may be having a different issue, but even so this might
point you in the right direction.



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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb

induna wrote: 
 Yes, it does. I believe that the problem was a timing issue. Although
 the WOL setting was correct, it was being applied before the network
 interface loaded and wasn't taking effect after cold boots, but did take
 effect after warm boots. The work-around re-applies the proper
 configuration after the network has been up for 1 minute. You may be
 having a different issue, but even so this might point you in the right
 direction.

Interesting it could be hardware dependent too I can't remember my old
server doing this .
In fact I will check even closer it was so long ago that I migth
remember it wrong , my old server needed some script a long these lines
to even to do a varm boot ! I'll check if my current OS and hardware
really needed that .
I migth have skipped this part if WOL  just worked  or reused a
solution that does not really fit this hardware .

Thanks for the input . I'm really no computer expert so I have to work a
bit to get around these things .

Do you use a hardware vortexbox or are you using a microserver ? Some HP
microservers are used as vorteboxes .




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Re: [slim] WOL after a long time off ? Issue

2013-11-10 Thread induna

Mnyb wrote: 
 Interesting it could be hardware dependent too I can't remember my old
 server doing this .
 In fact I will check even closer it was so long ago that I migth
 remember it wrong , my old server needed some script a long these lines
 to even to do a varm boot ! I'll check if my current OS and hardware
 really needed that .
 I migth have skipped this part if WOL  just worked  or reused a
 solution that does not really fit this hardware .
 
 Thanks for the input . I'm really no computer expert so I have to work a
 bit to get around these things .
 
 Do you use a hardware vortexbox or are you using a microserver ? Some HP
 microservers are used as vorteboxes .

I'm using a Zotac Box Nano. It works very well.



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Re: [slim] My Apps keeps going away

2013-11-10 Thread lemmy999

On my devices hooked up to the very old server, I never connect to
mysb.com.  I generally just listen to the music on my server and if I
want to listen to pandora, it is (was) in my apps but that connects
through my server to mysb.com.  So I never connect my radio directly to
mysb.com.   The same is true for my wife's radio.  With her radio I will
sometime switch it to my server to listen to my music.  But usually it
is on her more up to date server and like my radio, she listens to the
Pandora through her server and then out to mysb.com, she doesn't connect
directly to it.



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Re: [slim] My Apps keeps going away

2013-11-10 Thread lemmy999

I have a third computer that I could install the latest server on and
give it a try.  I assume the radio will upgrade to the latest firmware
when I switch to this server?



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Re: [slim] My Apps keeps going away

2013-11-10 Thread Mnyb

lemmy999 wrote: 
 I have a third computer that I could install the latest server on and
 give it a try.  I assume the radio will upgrade to the latest firmware
 when I switch to this server?

Yes eventually , it migth not do it directly it fetches the fw from
somewhere and it usually be aviable on the next restart .

If you are impatient , you could dl the fw file and the version file and
place them manually in the update folder , and navigate to the update
menu on the radio and force the upgrade and it's actually possibly to
update from mysqueezebox.com directly then you gets what's current .

But did not your radios have new fw already ? Possibly happend when
registering players against mysqueezebox.com

Just remember that LMS can only remember one mysqueezebox.com account ,
so if you connect a player registered on another account not set on that
server that player won't get any apps or radio menus from the server .
The complete app and radio menus are fetched from mysqueezebox.com in
the background . So if the accounts mismatch you only get local stuff
and the apps are not local .

Did you sometimes use your wife's radio on either of the servers and she
have her own account ? And this radio is registered there .




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