[Dorset] Slow night.
Made my mind up to run up a spare box with another distro; started looking at Debian Lenny, hated the amateurish customer site(a forest of undocumented static links) so I've settled on Fedora 13. It's going on nicely, as smooth as Ubuntu in every respect so far. Simono -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:05:14 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > It's going on nicely, as smooth as Ubuntu in every respect so far. Not someone who plays .mp3s regularly then ;) As a Fedora user I would advise and 'desktop' system has the RPM Fusion repository installed rpmfusion.org . The standard Fedora repositories only allow FOSS code inside them, the RPM Fusion has the rest ;) Have fun -- Using Opera M2: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wednesday 26 May 2010 20:05:14 Simon O'Riordan wrote: > Made my mind up to run up a spare box with another distro; started > looking at Debian Lenny, hated the amateurish customer site(a forest of > undocumented static links) so I've settled on Fedora 13. > It's going on nicely, as smooth as Ubuntu in every respect so far. > Simono If you want to run a Debian based distro then have a look at Simply Mepis 8.5, all the good bits from Debian and presented as a modern distro http://www.mepis.org/ Tim -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 20:15 +0100, Robert Bronsdon wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:05:14 +0100, Simon O'Riordan > wrote: > > > It's going on nicely, as smooth as Ubuntu in every respect so far. > > Not someone who plays .mp3s regularly then ;) > > As a Fedora user I would advise and 'desktop' system has the RPM Fusion > repository installed rpmfusion.org . The standard Fedora repositories only > allow FOSS code inside them, the RPM Fusion has the rest ;) > > Have fun > > -- > Using Opera M2: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > Thanks Robert! I wanted to see if it would power-up my old low-spec wireless dongles, so far no luck. Installing (104) updates via hardwire at the moment. I'll add the other repository as soon as it's finished. So far, Cheese still needs better hardware than my old box, so no change there. I'll bung on a couple of sample mp3 files in a mo. Thinking it looks a bit like Hardy, and the legal restrictions could be the American angle which used to cripple Microsoft? -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:42:17 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: I tend to use this guide on fresh installs http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f12.html sadly [s]he has not released a F13 version as yet. Hopefully it will arrive soon. If your careful you should be able to follow the F12 guide and most things are likely to work on F13, be careful though. > I'll bung on a couple of sample mp3 files in a mo. Thinking it looks a > bit like Hardy, and the legal restrictions could be the American angle > which used to cripple Microsoft? Don't quote me on it but I get the impression Red Hat are aware of not upsetting people regarding re-distribution of non-free stuff. Mix that with a wish to go 'completely' F/OSS and you soon lose non-free support. This includes F/OSS derivatives of non-free codecs etc. A pain for first time windows users but not a big deal to anyone who has spent any time with Linux. -- Using Opera M2: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
Multiple updates going in as Robert instructed; clearly Red Hat is under the thumb of big IP. Ubuntu is British, thank god. On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 20:42 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 20:15 +0100, Robert Bronsdon wrote: > > On Wed, 26 May 2010 20:05:14 +0100, Simon O'Riordan > > wrote: > > > > > It's going on nicely, as smooth as Ubuntu in every respect so far. > > > > Not someone who plays .mp3s regularly then ;) > > > > As a Fedora user I would advise and 'desktop' system has the RPM Fusion > > repository installed rpmfusion.org . The standard Fedora repositories only > > allow FOSS code inside them, the RPM Fusion has the rest ;) > > > > Have fun > > > > -- > > Using Opera M2: http://www.opera.com/mail/ > > > Thanks Robert! > I wanted to see if it would power-up my old low-spec wireless dongles, > so far no luck. > Installing (104) updates via hardwire at the moment. > I'll add the other repository as soon as it's finished. > So far, Cheese still needs better hardware than my old box, so no change > there. > I'll bung on a couple of sample mp3 files in a mo. Thinking it looks a > bit like Hardy, and the legal restrictions could be the American angle > which used to cripple Microsoft? > > -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On 26 May 2010 21:25, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > Multiple updates going in as Robert instructed; clearly Red Hat is under > the thumb of big IP. Ubuntu is British, thank god. aah, the days of the empire. :-) Ubuntu is South-African. -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
No jr. The owner of Canonical is South African. On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 21:27 +0100, jr wrote: > On 26 May 2010 21:25, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > > Multiple updates going in as Robert instructed; clearly Red Hat is under > > the thumb of big IP. Ubuntu is British, thank god. > > aah, the days of the empire. :-) > > Ubuntu is South-African. > > -- > regards, jr. > > time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. > -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:27:35 +0100, jr4...@googlemail.com said: > Ubuntu is British, thank god. > > aah, the days of the empire. :-) > > Ubuntu is South-African. Ubuntu is a South African word; the company behind the Ubuntu Linux distribution is Canonical Ltd, registered in the Isle of Man although with various offices around the world. The Isle of Man is part of the British Isles and is thus British (but not part of the United Kingdom, Great Britain or the European Union). Oh. I seem to have come over all pedantic. Sorry about that. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 21:22 +0100, Robert Bronsdon wrote: > I tend to use this guide on fresh installs > http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f12.html sadly [s]he has not > released a F13 version as yet. Hopefully it will arrive soon. If your > careful you should be able to follow the F12 guide and most things are > likely to work on F13, be careful though. > Robert, I just googled RPM Fusion, was directed to the rpmfusion.net site and just clicked on the auto installer for the package updater. Then I was asked for my admin password, and it installed with a few dire warnings of naughtiness. Then I ran Updater again, it refreshed to an even newer 13 version, then I ran the software installer and found all my favourites. Simple. But I still think that Ubuntu is better. Consumers want to compute, not sit an exam. Simono -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
yo simono, > No jr. The owner of Canonical is South African. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy) you're right though about "UK-based company Canonical Ltd." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system) -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > No jr. The owner of Canonical is South African. Mark Shuttleworth has set up Canonical in the UK, but AIUI, most of his staff are in South Africa. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:56:57 +0100, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > But I still think that Ubuntu is better. Consumers want to compute, not > sit an exam. True - though the F/OSS pushers would reply with those steps should not be needed. Hopefully updates arn't too bad with Presto enabled ;) - though most of that would have been fresh installed software and so wouldn't have seen the benefit. -- Using Opera M2: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 21:59 +0100, Terry Coles wrote: > On Wednesday 26 May 2010, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > > No jr. The owner of Canonical is South African. > > Mark Shuttleworth has set up Canonical in the UK, but AIUI, most of his staff > are in South Africa. > > -- > Terry Coles > 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux > > Yes, but the point is that British law is what enables Ubuntu to be flexible. Simono -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On 26 May 2010 22:16, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > Yes, but the point is that British law is what enables Ubuntu to be > flexible. what do you mean by flexible? Flash, etc? I meant to have a closer look at Pardus (not yet found time). http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_(operating_system) -- regards, jr. time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
> registered in the Isle of Man although with > various offices around the world. The Isle of Man is part of the British > Isles and is thus British (but not part of the United Kingdom, Great > Britain or the European Union). > > Oh. I seem to have come over all pedantic. Sorry about that. > That is the kind of accurate information one needs to make informed decisions. That is not pedantic. Never be frightened of accuracy. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night.
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 22:31 +0100, jr wrote: > On 26 May 2010 22:16, Simon O'Riordan wrote: > > Yes, but the point is that British law is what enables Ubuntu to be > > flexible. > > what do you mean by flexible? Flash, etc? > > I meant to have a closer look at Pardus (not yet found time). > > http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardus_(operating_system) > > -- > regards, jr. > > time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana. > Not flash particularly; more personal freedom, the freedom to choose for yourself. They facilitate this. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night
Hi folks, My impression is that Ubuntu is neither British or African but is Global, a feeling that I believe may be shared by Mark Shuttleworth? Canonical had to be registered somewhere and the IOM is as good as anywhere else. Just thought I'd slip my twopence worth in. Cheers, Kev (Kim) -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night
Good call! I'll drink to that... -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] Slow night
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 10:01 +0100, Dan Dart wrote: > Good call! I'll drink to that... > Nevertheless, I doubt people as smart as Canonical would choose the UK randomly. In other news, I'd like to test my Fedora box wireless networking, and instead of going the £25 route with an 'approved' dongle, I found a 'linux compatible' on Amazon for only £7. It should arrive by Saturday, so I'll let people know how that goes. I'd certainly say that while I prefer Ubuntu, default security on Fedora is superior, and the system is still light years in advance of the Novell product. Simono -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.org&channel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
