Re: [e-users] Memory Usage
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:14:55 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:28:35 -0300 Hugo Henrique Becker de Aguiar [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi! I will first thank the programers involved with enlightenment. It is art ! :) I think the issue I about to question is not really an enlightenment issue, but why does the system monitor (gnome) says I'm using so much less memory then the enlightenment monitor... I cannot find the process using all my memory!! e doesnt have a memory monitor. if you mean whats in emodules (that is not in e! thats e modules a separate cvs tree entirely) then its not counting the same way. memory is a complex thing. but its probably not ignoring disk and buffer cache. There's an option for that in the module configuration. Tell it to ignore buffers and cache and it should be the same. Jesse --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters
Hello, I would like to have top running in a borderless transparent window all the time on my desktop. Therefore I have run this command: Eterm --trans -f Orange --scrollbar false --buttonbar false -e top -d 00.50 and used the Remember function from the widow menu. But for some reason, e just remembers command Eterm without any parameters (stored in file .e16/e_config--0.0.snapshots, and after logout-login, just simple Eterm pops-up on the screen). I'm using e16.8-0.02 version. This feature was not there with older e16.8 versions (e16.8-pre1). thanks for E, Pavel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:49:05 +0100 (CET) Pavel Reznicek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to have top running in a borderless transparent window all the time on my desktop. Therefore I have run this command: Eterm --trans -f Orange --scrollbar false --buttonbar false -e top -d 00.50 and used the Remember function from the widow menu. But for some reason, e just remembers command Eterm without any parameters (stored in file .e16/e_config--0.0.snapshots, and after logout-login, just simple Eterm pops-up on the screen). I'm using e16.8-0.02 version. This feature was not there with older e16.8 versions (e16.8-pre1). there was a remember setting for restarting an application at boot time. It's probably this. -- Martin Hauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG-Encrypted mail preferred, KEY: 0D459A72 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters
I would like to have top running in a borderless transparent window all the time on my desktop. Therefore I have run this command: Eterm --trans -f Orange --scrollbar false --buttonbar false -e top -d 00.50 and used the Remember function from the widow menu. But for some reason, e just remembers command Eterm without any parameters (stored in file .e16/e_config--0.0.snapshots, and after logout-login, just simple Eterm pops-up on the screen). I'm using e16.8-0.02 version. This feature was not there with older e16.8 versions (e16.8-pre1). there was a remember setting for restarting an application at boot time. It's probably this. I'm using the flag Restart aplication at login. The point is, that it remembers just command Eterm without parameters instead of full command Eterm --trans -f Orange --scrollbar false --buttonbar false -e top -d 00.50. If I log out myself, change in an editor the .e16/e_config--0.0.snapshots file and log in, than it works fine. The Remember function seems to write wrong (incomplete) command to the snapshots file. Pavel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters
Pavel The remember function simply looks at what process has created the window and tries to start that on login. It has no way of knowing what parameters were used. It also can't start programs such as Firefox and Thunderbird which are started by running a script which sets up the environment and then starts the main executable. The remember function tries to start the main executable directly which then fails because the environment is not set up. E16.8 has the ability to run a script on startup. I would use that to start all of the programs I wanted to run from login. Mike --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters
E16.8 has the ability to run a script on startup. I would use that to start all of the programs I wanted to run from login. Thanks, Mike, I'll try this. I just though it to be a newly introduced bug because it worked fine with previous CVS snapshot (pre1). Pavel Mike --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage scrollwheel
Toby 'qubit' Cubitt wrote: It works fine for me. You might need to unbind the e17 bindings for scroll wheel events (using enlightenment_remote -binding-wheel-del), since they mask the engage bindings. i only deleted the CONTEXT=CONTAINER entries, and now it works fine. (i had several CONTAINER entries, as well as 4 each of CONTEXT=BORDER and CONTEXT=POPUP. didn't need to touch those, just ones for the container context.) --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters
Pavel Reznicek wrote: Hello, I would like to have top running in a borderless transparent window all the time on my desktop. Therefore I have run this command: Eterm --trans -f Orange --scrollbar false --buttonbar false -e top -d 00.50 and used the Remember function from the widow menu. But for some reason, e just remembers command Eterm without any parameters (stored in file .e16/e_config--0.0.snapshots, and after logout-login, just simple Eterm pops-up on the screen). I'm using e16.8-0.02 version. This feature was not there with older e16.8 versions (e16.8-pre1). I assume the version really is 0.16.8.1-0.02 or so, i.e. CVS after 0.16.8 was released. 0.16.8-0.02 would be more than a year old. You are right, this should just work, and it does for me. There should be an entry in .e16/e_config--0.0.snapshots like: NEW: top.Eterm WIN: 0xa00043 NAME: top CLASS: Eterm CMD: Eterm --trans -f Orange --scrollbar false --buttonbar false -e top -d 00.50 eesh rl a should report an entry like: Snapshot Name: top.EtermIn use - 0xa00043 Window Name top Window Class Eterm command: Eterm --trans -f Orange --scrollbar false --buttonbar false -e top -d 00.50 Nothing has been changed (deliberately) in the snapshots department in ages. You may have some stale remembered settings around. If so, try removing them (Settings - Remember Settings ...). Also try removing the entry for your top window and add it again. If none of this helps, please send me your .e16/e_config--0.0.snapshots. /Kim --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters
Hello, I have removed it from remember list, logout, login, run Eterm --trans -f Orange --scrollbar false --buttonbar false -e top -d 00.50 command from xterm, ALT+rightclick on the running top and set Remember (activated everything from the remember-menu except Desktop and Title). And this is what appeared at the end of .e16/e_config--0.0.snapshots: NEW: top.Eterm WIN: 0x1a00041 NAME: top CLASS: Eterm AUTO: yes BORDER: DEFAULT CMD: Eterm RES: 1280 1024 WH: 490 777 XY: 666 60 0 0 LAYER: 4 STICKY: 1 SHADE: 0 SKIPTASK: 0 SKIPWINLIST: 0 SKIPFOCUS: 0 FLAGS: 0 OPACITY: 255 SHADOW: 1 Obviously CMD is not right ... regards, Pavel PS: e16 version is the almost latest: 0.16.8.1 0.02 (sorry for forgotting .1 in my previous mail). --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage scrollwheel
thanks for the replies, it works again. Is there no way to have the scrollwheel still change desktops when the pointer is over the desktop and also cycle through the windows in engage when the pointer is inside the module? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters
Pavel Reznicek wrote: Hello, I have removed it from remember list, logout, login, run Eterm --trans -f Orange --scrollbar false --buttonbar false -e top -d 00.50 command from xterm, ALT+rightclick on the running top and set Remember (activated everything from the remember-menu except Desktop and Title). And this is what appeared at the end of .e16/e_config--0.0.snapshots: NEW: top.Eterm WIN: 0x1a00041 NAME: top CLASS: Eterm AUTO: yes BORDER: DEFAULT CMD: Eterm RES: 1280 1024 WH: 490 777 XY: 666 60 0 0 LAYER: 4 STICKY: 1 SHADE: 0 SKIPTASK: 0 SKIPWINLIST: 0 SKIPFOCUS: 0 FLAGS: 0 OPACITY: 255 SHADOW: 1 Obviously CMD is not right ... What does xprop -id 0x1a00041 WM_COMMAND say? /Kim --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters
What does xprop -id 0x1a00041 WM_COMMAND say?
WM_COMMAND(STRING) = { Eterm, , , , , , , , , , ,
}
There are 2 suspicious issues:
1) The time when it was working right seems to be just before update
from xorg 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 (debian testing).
2) using xprop on aterm -e top returns:
WM_COMMAND(STRING) = { aterm, -e, top }
Pavel
/Kim
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Re: [e-users] engage scrollwheel
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 01:53:08PM -0500, RockerZ71 wrote: thanks for the replies, it works again. Is there no way to have the scrollwheel still change desktops when the pointer is over the desktop and also cycle through the windows in engage when the pointer is inside the module? See Mitch's reply (only delete the CONTEXT=CONTAINER wheel bindings). I've never tried it so I can't vouch for it working. (I use a 3x3 array of desktops accessed by WIN-numpad, so switching to the desired desktop is easy via keyboard, and I can just use the pager if I'm working with the mouse. My brain just can't seem to grok cycling linearly through the 2d array of desktops ;-) I imagine mouse bindings will appear in the configuration panel one of these days, which'll simplify things. Toby -- PhD Student Quantum Information Theory group Max Planck Institute for Quantum Optics Garching, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.dr-qubit.org --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] engage scrollwheel
Toby 'qubit' Cubitt wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 01:53:08PM -0500, RockerZ71 wrote: thanks for the replies, it works again. Is there no way to have the scrollwheel still change desktops when the pointer is over the desktop and also cycle through the windows in engage when the pointer is inside the module? See Mitch's reply (only delete the CONTEXT=CONTAINER wheel bindings). actually, i posted too soon... removing just the container context bindings does NOT permit the scrollwheel to cycle desktops, when the pointer isn't over engage. i don't know what the right combination of arcane symbols and muttered incantations actually is.
Re: [e-users] e16.8-Remember ignores command parameters
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:24:24 +0100 (CET)
Pavel Reznicek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does xprop -id 0x1a00041 WM_COMMAND say?
WM_COMMAND(STRING) = { Eterm, , , , , , , , , ,
, }
There are 2 suspicious issues:
1) The time when it was working right seems to be just before update
from xorg 6.8.2 to 6.9.0 (debian testing).
2) using xprop on aterm -e top returns:
WM_COMMAND(STRING) = { aterm, -e, top }
Let me chime in here. I am not running a quite so up-to-date e16:
$ eesh -ewait version
Enlightenment Version : enlightenment-0.16.8
code is current to: $Date: 2006/01/14 16:27:06 $
but I too have upgraded to xorg 6.9.0 (slackware-current)
Here is what I get:
$ Eterm -e top
$ eesh -ewait wl
0x140003c : top
$ xprop -id 0x140003c WM_COMMAND
WM_COMMAND(STRING) = { Eterm, , }
$ xterm -e top
$ eesh -ewait wl
0x1ae : top
$ xprop -id 0x1ae WM_COMMAND
WM_COMMAND(STRING) = { xterm, -e, top }
Strange...
Brad
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Re: [e-users] engage scrollwheel
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 02:52:38PM -0500, Mitch Gorman wrote: Toby 'qubit' Cubitt wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 01:53:08PM -0500, RockerZ71 wrote: thanks for the replies, it works again. Is there no way to have the scrollwheel still change desktops when the pointer is over the desktop and also cycle through the windows in engage when the pointer is inside the module? See Mitch's reply (only delete the CONTEXT=CONTAINER wheel bindings). actually, i posted too soon... removing just the container context bindings does NOT permit the scrollwheel to cycle desktops, when the pointer isn't over engage. i don't know what the right combination of arcane symbols and muttered incantations actually is. It sounded so reasonable you had me convinced! It's difficult for me to play with adding wheel bindings for different contexts, since I've deleted all my wheel bindings and don't have examples to work from (what should the Direction and Z parameters be for instance?). But I guess trying bindings for each possible context in turn (there's a list of them in the keybindings configuration panel entry) should either reveal one that works, or that none do the right thing. Of course, maybe someone who actually knows what they're talking about will post an explanation and avoid the experimental approach... Toby -- PhD Student Quantum Information Theory group Max Planck Institute for Quantum Optics Garching, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.dr-qubit.org --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
