RE: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

2010-09-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
Not only is it not supported, it doesn't work.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

Can a domain be renamed with an Exchange 2007 server in it?
Note: our internal domain is different than our public domain.


According Microsoft it is not supported.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738208(WS.10).aspx


Domain rename is also not supported in a forest in which Exchange Server 2007 
or Exchange Server 2010 is deployed.

Thanks,
Andy



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Re: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

2010-09-14 Thread Don Ely
I'm fairly certain you answered your own question.  Did I miss something?

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Leedy, Andy ale...@butlerschein.comwrote:

  Can a domain be renamed with an Exchange 2007 server in it?

 Note: our internal domain is different than our public domain.





 According Microsoft it is not supported.

 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738208(WS.10).aspx





 “Domain rename is also not supported in a forest in which
 Exchange Server 2007 or Exchange Server 2010 is deployed.”



 Thanks,

 Andy




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RE: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

2010-09-14 Thread Leedy, Andy
I can't exactly say that gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
Sounds like pull the trigger and see if it breaks. :@

-Andy

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

Not only is it not supported, it doesn't work.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

Can a domain be renamed with an Exchange 2007 server in it?
Note: our internal domain is different than our public domain.


According Microsoft it is not supported.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738208(WS.10).aspx


Domain rename is also not supported in a forest in which Exchange Server 2007 
or Exchange Server 2010 is deployed.

Thanks,
Andy





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RE: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

2010-09-14 Thread Michael B. Smith
On your hands/head be it.

Warning: I recommend you don't do it. At all. Don't even try.

Regards,

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From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

I can't exactly say that gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
Sounds like pull the trigger and see if it breaks. :@

-Andy

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

Not only is it not supported, it doesn't work.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerschein.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

Can a domain be renamed with an Exchange 2007 server in it?
Note: our internal domain is different than our public domain.


According Microsoft it is not supported.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738208(WS.10).aspx


Domain rename is also not supported in a forest in which Exchange Server 2007 
or Exchange Server 2010 is deployed.

Thanks,
Andy




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Re: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.

2010-09-14 Thread Don Ely
Uhhh, what part of it doesn't work did you miss there...  It only works
and is only supported under Windows 2003/Exchange 2003.  No more, no less...

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Leedy, Andy ale...@butlerschein.comwrote:

  I can’t exactly say that gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling.

 Sounds like pull the trigger and see if it breaks. :@



 -Andy



 *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:15 PM

 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.



 Not only is it not supported, it doesn’t work.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 Consultant and Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/



 *From:* Leedy, Andy [mailto:ale...@butlerschein.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:14 PM
 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Domain rename with Exchange 2007 server.



 Can a domain be renamed with an Exchange 2007 server in it?

 Note: our internal domain is different than our public domain.





 According Microsoft it is not supported.

 http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc738208(WS.10).aspx





 “Domain rename is also not supported in a forest in which
 Exchange Server 2007 or Exchange Server 2010 is deployed.”



 Thanks,

 Andy







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RE: Domain has unknown Exchange signature

2010-03-10 Thread Michael B. Smith
This is a known issue. Ignore it. 12639 is the correct signature value.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
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From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:50 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Domain has unknown Exchange signature


Slowly doing a migration from Exchange 2003 SP2 to Exchange 2010. Using the MS 
Exchange Best Practices analyzer returns the Domain has an unknown Exchange 
signature. Ref: 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa997081(EXCHG.80).aspx. My 
objectVersion is 12639.



Exchange 2003 was NOT installed using a pre-release version. Additionally, when 
installing Exchange 2010, part of the install process was a domain prep. I'm 
trying to determine why this error occurs and if it is something I should take 
steps to try and correct knowing that the Exchange 2003 server (which is a 
domain controller) will eventually be retired from the network. If I leave it 
as it is what are the potential issues this may cause moving forward? Thanks.

Steve



Re: Domain has unknown Exchange signature

2010-03-10 Thread Chipshead
Thanks Michael. I found several Google threads pertaining to this. It is my 
perception that Exchange 2010 integration with Exchange 2003 is not fully 
baked. Exchange signature errors, validation errors, nominated Recipient Update 
Service errors, home MDB errors etc. etc. and everything seems to point back to 
the 2003 server. Lots of chasing my tail and never catching it. 
- Original Message - 
From: Michael B. Smith  michael @ smithcons .com 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues  exchangelist @ lyris .sunbelt-software.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:40:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: Domain has unknown Exchange signature 




This is a known issue. Ignore it. 12639 is the correct signature value. 




Regards, 



Michael B. Smith 

Consultant and Exchange MVP 

http :// TheEssentialExchange .com 





From: Chipshead @comcast.net [ mailto : Chipshead @comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 6:50 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: Domain has unknown Exchange signature 




Slowly doing a migration from Exchange 2003 SP2 to Exchange 2010. Using the MS 
Exchange Best Practices analyzer returns the Domain has an unknown Exchange 
signature. Ref: http :// technet . microsoft .com/en-us/library/aa997081( EXCHG 
.80). aspx . My objectVersion is 12639. 



Exchange 2003 was NOT installed using a pre-release version. Additionally, when 
installing Exchange 2010, part of the install process was a domain prep. I'm 
trying to determine why this error occurs and if it is something I should take 
steps to try and correct knowing that the Exchange 2003 server (which is a 
domain controller) will eventually be retired from the network. If I leave it 
as it is what are the potential issues this may cause moving forward? Thanks. 

Steve

Re: Domain/UserID for OWA Logon question

2002-08-02 Thread Maakus Blow

To fix this, use the IIS Internet Service Manager to
set the default domain for the Exchange virtual
directory to be whatever domain your users' accounts
are in
--- Kevin Fricke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a single domain/single Exchange site with OWA in
 the same domain but
 set up as a front end server on it's own box, users
 must enter
 domain/userID to get into OWA.
 
 Is there a way to force it to always assume a
 default domain name? 
 
 List Charter and FAQ at:

http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
 


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RE: Domain/UserID for OWA Logon question

2002-08-02 Thread Mike Newell

Hello,
This is to solve a multi-domain environment but I'd be interested to see if
this would work for you. I wonder if the reg hack would do what you're
looking for. What do you think?


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q166635;

 -Original Message-
From:   Kevin Fricke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, August 02, 2002 8:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:Domain/UserID for OWA Logon question

In a single domain/single Exchange site with OWA in the same domain but
set up as a front end server on it's own box, users must enter
domain/userID to get into OWA.

Is there a way to force it to always assume a default domain name? 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




Re: Domain/UserID for OWA Logon question

2002-08-02 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr

search the kb.  there are like 3 articles regarding this.

Kevin Fricke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:282023@exchangelist...

 In a single domain/single Exchange site with OWA in the same domain but
 set up as a front end server on it's own box, users must enter
 domain/userID to get into OWA.

 Is there a way to force it to always assume a default domain name?





List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: Domain/UserID for OWA Logon question

2002-08-02 Thread Lathrum Matt-P55173

Does this work for Exchange 2000 as well?  It says Exchange 5.5.

-- 
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 When cryptography is outlawed,
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 -Original Message-
From:   Mike Newell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, August 02, 2002 9:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:RE: Domain/UserID for OWA Logon question

Hello,
This is to solve a multi-domain environment but I'd be interested to see if
this would work for you. I wonder if the reg hack would do what you're
looking for. What do you think?


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q166635;

 -Original Message-
From:   Kevin Fricke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, August 02, 2002 8:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:Domain/UserID for OWA Logon question

In a single domain/single Exchange site with OWA in the same domain but
set up as a front end server on it's own box, users must enter
domain/userID to get into OWA.

Is there a way to force it to always assume a default domain name? 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




List Charter and FAQ at:
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Erik Sojka
Title: Message



That's 
a wide open question. Are you talking for an internal network or just for 
a DMZ deployment?

A box 
in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain or WG, doesn't matter 
which). If that box gets compromised, then the damage is only limited to 
that box. The attacker doesn't also get access to the production domain or 
any other DMZ boxes. 

  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:17 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  domain
  Can anyone settle 
  a bet?
  
  I have a coworker 
  who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say its the otherway 
  around.
  He is also betting 
  me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in workgoups and not 
  domains...List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Good 
gawd!

Y'all 
not have anything better to do? Why not find out who is better at hacking 
the network? Or hack each others workstations?

If a 
"hacker" is worth his salt, he won't care if your computer is a member of the 
domain or not. This is usually because, we don't care if your computers 
are in a domain or a workgroup, we care about the exploits we find and what we 
do with those exploits... Once a machine is compromised, you're pretty 
much "owned" anyway...



  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:17 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  domain
  Can anyone settle 
  a bet?
  
  I have a coworker 
  who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say its the otherway 
  around.
  He is also betting 
  me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in workgoups and not 
  domains...List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Andy David
Title: Message



Domains are more secure.
Workgroups in DMZs.


  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:17 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  domain
  Can anyone settle 
  a bet?
  
  I have a coworker 
  who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say its the otherway 
  around.
  He is also betting 
  me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in workgoups and not 
  domains...List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



"If 
that box gets compromised, then the damage is only limited to that 
box."

Not 
necessarily... VBEG


  
  -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:19 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an internal 
  network or just for a DMZ deployment?
  
  A 
  box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain or WG, doesn't 
  matter which). If that box gets compromised, then the damage is only 
  limited to that box. The attacker doesn't also get access to the 
  production domain or any other DMZ boxes. 
  

-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:17 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
domain
Can anyone 
settle a bet?

I have a 
coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say its 
the otherway around.
He is also 
betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in workgoups 
and not domains...List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



what 
if youre dual homed. and your internal nic doesnt have a default gateway 
assigned to it? and Netbios is disabled on the external nic?

  
  -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:27 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  True; I only meant that the attacker doesn't get default or 
  passthru access to other boxes, as one might if all boxes were in the same 
  domain.
  

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
11:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
"If that box gets compromised, then the damage is 
only limited to that box."

Not necessarily... 
VBEG


  
  -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:19 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an internal 
  network or just for a DMZ deployment?
  
  A box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain or WG, 
  doesn't matter which). If that box gets compromised, then the damage 
  is only limited to that box. The attacker doesn't also get access to 
  the production domain or any other DMZ boxes. 
  

-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
July 30, 2002 11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: domain
Can anyone 
settle a bet?

I have a 
coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say 
its the otherway around.
He is also 
betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in 
workgoups and not domains...List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



Ok, 
but if you have an exchange server, or ISA server on your DMZ, how to you equate 
it to the production domain?
A 
front end exchange server would have to be in your production Domain.. I would 
think you would dual home the server, and thus done properly would give you some 
protection on your production domain
but if 
you have internal clients, putting them in your domain is more secure than 
putting them in some obscure workgroup right? 
Then 
you can use domain policy to lock them down, track activity and so forth 
right?

  
  -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an internal 
  network or just for a DMZ deployment?
  
  A 
  box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain or WG, doesn't 
  matter which). If that box gets compromised, then the damage is only 
  limited to that box. The attacker doesn't also get access to the 
  production domain or any other DMZ boxes. 
  

-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:17 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
domain
Can anyone 
settle a bet?

I have a 
coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say its 
the otherway around.
He is also 
betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in workgoups 
and not domains...List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message




Ok, 
but if you have an exchange server, or ISA server on your DMZ, how to you equate 
it to the production domain?
A 
front end exchange server would have to be in your production Domain.. I would 
think you would dual home the server, and thus done properly would give you some 
protection on your production domain
but if 
you have internal clients, putting them in your domain is more secure than 
putting them in some obscure workgroup right? 
Then 
you can use domain policy to lock them down, track activity and so forth 
right?

  
  -Original Message-From: Andy David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  10:24 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  Domains are more secure.
  Workgroups in DMZs.
  
  

-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:17 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
domain
Can anyone 
settle a bet?

I have a 
coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say its 
the otherway around.
He is also 
betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in workgoups 
and not domains...List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Andy David
Title: Message



Martin 
is dual-homed.


  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:29 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  what 
  if youre dual homed. and your internal nic doesnt have a default gateway 
  assigned to it? and Netbios is disabled on the external 
  nic?
  

-Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:27 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
True; I only meant that the attacker doesn't get default or 
passthru access to other boxes, as one might if all boxes were in the same 
domain.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  11:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  "If that box gets compromised, then the damage is 
  only limited to that box."
  
  Not necessarily... 
  VBEG
  
  

-Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:19 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an 
internal network or just for a DMZ deployment?

A box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain or 
WG, doesn't matter which). If that box gets compromised, then the 
damage is only limited to that box. The attacker doesn't also get 
access to the production domain or any other DMZ boxes. 


  
  -Original Message-From: 
  MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
  July 30, 2002 11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: domain
  Can anyone 
  settle a bet?
  
  I have a 
  coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say 
  its the otherway around.
  He is also 
  betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in 
  workgoups and not domains...List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Dual-homing is an invite to your internal network... regardless of 
gateway or disabling NetBios.



  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:29 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  what 
  if youre dual homed. and your internal nic doesnt have a default gateway 
  assigned to it? and Netbios is disabled on the external 
  nic?
  

-Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:27 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
True; I only meant that the attacker doesn't get default or 
passthru access to other boxes, as one might if all boxes were in the same 
domain.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  11:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  "If that box gets compromised, then the damage is 
  only limited to that box."
  
  Not necessarily... 
  VBEG
  
  

-Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:19 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an 
internal network or just for a DMZ deployment?

A box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain or 
WG, doesn't matter which). If that box gets compromised, then the 
damage is only limited to that box. The attacker doesn't also get 
access to the production domain or any other DMZ boxes. 


  
  -Original Message-From: 
  MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
  July 30, 2002 11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: domain
  Can anyone 
  settle a bet?
  
  I have a 
  coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say 
  its the otherway around.
  He is also 
  betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in 
  workgoups and not domains...List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Tom Meunier

There are also degrees of difference depending on whether you're talking
about an AD domain or a WinNT domain.  In AD the forest itself is your
security boundary. 

Although a domain is in fact a security boundary when considering the
management aspects of Active Directory, it does not provide complete
isolation in the face of possible attacks by service administrators who
maliciously modify the behavior of the system.
-from http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/docs/addeladmin.doc

 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: domain
 
 
 That's a wide open question.  Are you talking for an internal 
 network or just for a DMZ deployment?
  
 A box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain 
 or WG, doesn't matter which).  If that box gets compromised, 
 then the damage is only limited to that box.  The attacker 
 doesn't also get access to the production domain or any other 
 DMZ boxes.  
 
   -Original Message-
   From: MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:17 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: domain
   
   
   Can anyone settle a bet?

   I have a coworker who is saying a workgroup is more 
 secure than a domain, I say its the otherway around.
   He is also betting me that any servers setup in your 
 DMZ should be setup in workgoups and not domains...
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



A... this is true...



  
  -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:27 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  True; I only meant that the attacker doesn't get default or 
  passthru access to other boxes, as one might if all boxes were in the same 
  domain.
  

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
11:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
"If that box gets compromised, then the damage is 
only limited to that box."

Not necessarily... 
VBEG


  
  -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:19 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an internal 
  network or just for a DMZ deployment?
  
  A box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain or WG, 
  doesn't matter which). If that box gets compromised, then the damage 
  is only limited to that box. The attacker doesn't also get access to 
  the production domain or any other DMZ boxes. 
  

-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
July 30, 2002 11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: domain
Can anyone 
settle a bet?

I have a 
coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say 
its the otherway around.
He is also 
betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in 
workgoups and not domains...List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



If 
you're putting a FE server in your DMZ, you might as well take the DMZ out of 
the picture. You are punching far too many holes in your FW to even 
consider it a FW in this scenario...



  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:25 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  Ok, 
  but if you have an exchange server, or ISA server on your DMZ, how to you 
  equate it to the production domain?
  A 
  front end exchange server would have to be in your production Domain.. I would 
  think you would dual home the server, and thus done properly would give you 
  some protection on your production domain
  but 
  if you have internal clients, putting them in your domain is more secure than 
  putting them in some obscure workgroup right? 
  Then 
  you can use domain policy to lock them down, track activity and so forth 
  right?
  

-Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:19 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an internal 
network or just for a DMZ deployment?

A 
box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain or WG, doesn't 
matter which). If that box gets compromised, then the damage is only 
limited to that box. The attacker doesn't also get access to the 
production domain or any other DMZ boxes. 

  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  domain
  Can anyone 
  settle a bet?
  
  I have a 
  coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say its 
  the otherway around.
  He is also 
  betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in workgoups 
  and not domains...List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



and??

  
  -Original Message-From: Andy David 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  10:38 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  Martin is dual-homed.
  
  

-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:29 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
what if youre dual homed. and your internal nic doesnt have a default 
gateway assigned to it? and Netbios is disabled on the external 
nic?

  
  -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:27 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  True; I only meant that the attacker doesn't get default or 
  passthru access to other boxes, as one might if all boxes were in the same 
  domain.
  

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
11:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
"If that box gets compromised, then the damage 
is only limited to that box."

Not necessarily... 
VBEG


  
  -Original Message-From: Erik 
  Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  11:19 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an 
  internal network or just for a DMZ deployment?
  
  A box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain or 
  WG, doesn't matter which). If that box gets compromised, then 
  the damage is only limited to that box. The attacker doesn't 
  also get access to the production domain or any other DMZ boxes. 
  
  

-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
July 30, 2002 11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: domain
Can 
anyone settle a bet?

I have a 
coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I 
say its the otherway around.
He is 
also betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup 
in workgoups and not domains...List Charter and 
FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Ben Winzenz
Title: Message



But if 
you are interested in security at all, you don't put an Exchange server on your 
DMZ. Or any box that has to authenticate with the internal domain, for 
that matter. It is just dumb. Even with FE/BE, you don't need to put 
the FE server on the DMZ. You would enable SSL and open port 443 to that 
server.
Ben Winzenz Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems 

  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:31 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  
  Ok, 
  but if you have an exchange server, or ISA server on your DMZ, how to you 
  equate it to the production domain?
  A 
  front end exchange server would have to be in your production Domain.. I would 
  think you would dual home the server, and thus done properly would give you 
  some protection on your production domain
  but 
  if you have internal clients, putting them in your domain is more secure than 
  putting them in some obscure workgroup right? 
  Then 
  you can use domain policy to lock them down, track activity and so forth 
  right?
  

-Original Message-From: Andy David 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
10:24 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
Domains are more secure.
Workgroups in DMZs.


  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  domain
  Can anyone 
  settle a bet?
  
  I have a 
  coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say its 
  the otherway around.
  He is also 
  betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in workgoups 
  and not domains...List Charter and FAQ 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread MHR(Michael Ross)
Title: Message



how 
so?

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:23 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  Dual-homing is an invite to your internal network... regardless 
  of gateway or disabling NetBios.
  
  
  

-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:29 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
what if youre dual homed. and your internal nic doesnt have a default 
gateway assigned to it? and Netbios is disabled on the external 
nic?

  
  -Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:27 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  True; I only meant that the attacker doesn't get default or 
  passthru access to other boxes, as one might if all boxes were in the same 
  domain.
  

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
11:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
"If that box gets compromised, then the damage 
is only limited to that box."

Not necessarily... 
VBEG


  
  -Original Message-From: Erik 
  Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  11:19 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an 
  internal network or just for a DMZ deployment?
  
  A box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain or 
  WG, doesn't matter which). If that box gets compromised, then 
  the damage is only limited to that box. The attacker doesn't 
  also get access to the production domain or any other DMZ boxes. 
  
  

-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
July 30, 2002 11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: domain
Can 
anyone settle a bet?

I have a 
coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I 
say its the otherway around.
He is 
also betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup 
in workgoups and not domains...List Charter and 
FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Campbell, Rob
Title: Message




Depends on how you look at it. Is having $100 in one bank more or 
less secure than having $1 each in 100 different banks?

-Original Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:17 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
domain
Can anyone 
settle a bet?

I have a 
coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, I say its 
the otherway around.
He is also 
betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup in workgoups 
and not domains...List Charter and FAQ 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Campbell, Rob
Title: Message




I did 
this for a customer once. Don't remember exactly what he was doing with 
it, but he insisted he had to have it.

Ended 
up using null modem/RAS/netbios. Connection could only be initiated from 
the internal network, on a short fuse idle timeout. Best I 
could come up with and get him what he wanted.

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
10:23 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
Dual-homing is an invite to your internal network... regardless 
of gateway or disabling NetBios.




-Original Message-From: 
MHR(Michael Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
July 30, 2002 11:29 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: domain
what if youre dual homed. and your internal nic doesnt have a 
default gateway assigned to it? and Netbios is disabled on the external 
nic?


-Original 
Message-From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:27 AMTo: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
True; I only meant that the attacker doesn't get 
default or passthru access to other boxes, as one might if all boxes 
were in the same domain.


-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 
30, 2002 11:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: domain
If that box gets compromised, 
then the damage is only limited to that 
box.

Not necessarily... 
VBEG



-Original 
Message-From: Erik Sojka 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 
2002 11:19 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: domain
That's a wide open question. Are you 
talking for an internal network or just for a DMZ 
deployment?

A box in the DMZ should be in its own 
separate thing (domain or WG, doesn't matter which). 
If that box gets compromised, then the damage is only 
limited to that box. The attacker doesn't also get 
access to the production domain or any other DMZ 
boxes. 


-Original 
Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 
30, 2002 11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: domain
Can anyone settle a bet?

I have a coworker who is saying a workgroup is 
more secure than a domain, I say its the otherway 
around.
He is also betting me that any servers setup in 
your DMZ should be setup in workgoups and not 
domains...List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Sorry, 
I don't disclose that kind of information. Let's just say if you 
dual-homed a machine and I was scanning your network and found it... well, 
it would bea fun time had by all...



  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:43 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  how 
  so?
  

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
10:23 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
Dual-homing is an invite to your internal network... regardless 
of gateway or disabling NetBios.



  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  11:29 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  what if youre dual homed. and your internal nic doesnt have a 
  default gateway assigned to it? and Netbios is disabled on the external 
  nic?
  

-Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:27 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
True; I only meant that the attacker doesn't get default or 
passthru access to other boxes, as one might if all boxes were in the 
same domain.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 
  2002 11:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: domain
  "If that box gets compromised, then the 
  damage is only limited to that box."
  
  Not necessarily... 
  VBEG
  
  

-Original Message-From: Erik 
Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 
2002 11:19 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: domain
That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an 
internal network or just for a DMZ deployment?

A box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain 
or WG, doesn't matter which). If that box gets compromised, 
then the damage is only limited to that box. The attacker 
doesn't also get access to the production domain or any other DMZ 
boxes. 

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  domain
  Can 
  anyone settle a bet?
  
  I have 
  a coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, 
  I say its the otherway around.
  He is 
  also betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Ely, Don
Title: Message



Now 
that's an interesting configuration... :o)



  
  -Original Message-From: Campbell, Rob 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 
  2002 12:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  I 
  did this for a customer once. Don't remember exactly what he was doing 
  with it, but he insisted he had to have it.
  
  Ended up using null modem/RAS/netbios. Connection could only be 
  initiated from the internal network, on a "short fuse" idle timeout. 
  Best I could come up with and get him what he wanted.
  
-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
10:23 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
Dual-homing is an invite to your internal network... regardless 
of gateway or disabling NetBios.



  
  -Original Message-From: MHR(Michael 
  Ross) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  11:29 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  domain
  what if youre dual homed. and your internal nic doesnt have a 
  default gateway assigned to it? and Netbios is disabled on the external 
  nic?
  

-Original Message-From: Erik Sojka 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:27 
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
True; I only meant that the attacker doesn't get default or 
passthru access to other boxes, as one might if all boxes were in the 
same domain.

  
  -Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 
  2002 11:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
  IssuesSubject: RE: domain
  "If that box gets compromised, then the 
  damage is only limited to that box."
  
  Not necessarily... 
  VBEG
  
  

-Original Message-From: Erik 
Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 
2002 11:19 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
        IssuesSubject: RE: domain
That's a wide open question. Are you talking for an 
internal network or just for a DMZ deployment?

A box in the DMZ should be in its own separate thing (domain 
or WG, doesn't matter which). If that box gets compromised, 
then the damage is only limited to that box. The attacker 
doesn't also get access to the production domain or any other DMZ 
boxes. 

  
  -Original 
  Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
  11:17 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  domain
  Can 
  anyone settle a bet?
  
  I have 
  a coworker who is saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, 
  I say its the otherway around.
  He is 
  also betting me that any servers setup in your DMZ should be setup 
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RE: domain

2002-07-30 Thread Campbell, Rob
Title: Message




Actually that should have been null modem/RAS/netbeui. Anyway, it 
worked. Basically it was a back door that only opened one way. 
Hopefully it was just too weird for a hacker to look for or want to mess 
with.

-Original Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
12:40 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
Now that's an interesting configuration... 
:o)




-Original Message-From: Campbell, 
Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:01 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: domain
I did this for a customer once. Don't remember exactly what 
he was doing with it, but he insisted he had to have 
it.

Ended up using null modem/RAS/netbios. Connection could 
only be initiated from the internal network, on a short fuse 
idle timeout. Best I could come up with and get him what he 
wanted.

-Original Message-From: Ely, 
Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, July 
30, 2002 10:23 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: domain
Dual-homing is an invite to your internal network... 
regardless of gateway or disabling NetBios.




-Original 
Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 
11:29 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: domain
what if youre dual homed. and your internal 
nic doesnt have a default gateway assigned to it? and Netbios is 
disabled on the external nic?


-Original 
Message-From: Erik Sojka 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 
2002 10:27 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: RE: domain
True; I only meant that the attacker 
doesn't get default or passthru access to other boxes, as 
one might if all boxes were in the same 
domain.


-Original 
Message-From: Ely, Don 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:15 AMTo: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
If that box gets 
compromised, then the damage is only limited to that 
box.

Not necessarily... 
VBEG



-Original Message-From: 
Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:19 AMTo: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
domain
That's a wide open 
question. Are you talking for an internal 
network or just for a DMZ 
deployment?

A box in the DMZ 
should be in its own separate thing (domain or WG, 
doesn't matter which). If that box gets 
compromised, then the damage is only limited to that 
box. The attacker doesn't also get access to 
the production domain or any other DMZ boxes. 



-Original 
Message-From: MHR(Michael Ross) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 
Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:17 AMTo: 
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
domain
Can anyone settle a 
bet?

I have a coworker who is 
saying a workgroup is more secure than a domain, 
I say its the otherway 
around.
He is also betting me that any 
servers setup in your DMZ should be setup

RE: Domain name in logon?

2002-06-22 Thread Benjamin Zachary
Title: Message



then 
you need to make their username user@domain 
:)

Or 
play with .net server pop3 server that works that way

  
  -Original Message-From: Brent McCrary 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:40 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Domain name 
  in logon?
  When they logon via Outlook or Outlook Express 
  I'd like them to have to put their full address in the "account name" 
  field.
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Matthew 
Carpenter 
To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:36 
PM
    Subject: Re: Domain name in 
logon?

Where are you referring?

On OWA? Check Name on a profile set 
up?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Brent 
  McCrary 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:33 
  PM
  Subject: Domain name in logon?
  
  Anyone know how can I make my Exchange 5.5 
  server accept the "@domain-name.com" after my account name?
  I only have 1 domain, but I still would like 
  users to enter their full email address.
  
  Thanks,Brent McCrary
  kcconnect.net
  
  
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Re: Domain name in logon?

2002-06-21 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Title: RE: Mail Sending order problems



Where are you referring?

On OWA? Check Name on a profile set 
up?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Brent 
  McCrary 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:33 PM
  Subject: Domain name in logon?
  
  Anyone know how can I make my Exchange 5.5 server 
  accept the "@domain-name.com" after my account name?
  I only have 1 domain, but I still would like 
  users to enter their full email address.
  
  Thanks,Brent McCrary
  kcconnect.net
  
  
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RE: Domain name in logon?

2002-06-21 Thread Precht, David N.
Title: Message



in OWA 
or Outlook ?

  
  -Original Message-From: Brent McCrary 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 
  15:33To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Domain name in 
  logon?
  Anyone know how can I make my Exchange 5.5 server 
  accept the "@domain-name.com" after my account name?
  I only have 1 domain, but I still would like 
  users to enter their full email address.
  
  Thanks,Brent McCrary
  kcconnect.net
  
  
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Re: Domain name in logon?

2002-06-21 Thread Brent McCrary
Title: RE: Mail Sending order problems



When they logon via Outlook or Outlook Express I'd 
like them to have to put their full address in the "account name" 
field.



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matthew 
  Carpenter 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:36 PM
  Subject: Re: Domain name in logon?
  
  Where are you referring?
  
  On OWA? Check Name on a profile set 
  up?
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Brent 
McCrary 
To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues 
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:33 
PM
Subject: Domain name in logon?

Anyone know how can I make my Exchange 5.5 
server accept the "@domain-name.com" after my account name?
I only have 1 domain, but I still would like 
users to enter their full email address.

Thanks,Brent McCrary
kcconnect.net


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RE: Domain name change

2002-05-03 Thread Brent Hudson

Multihomed, keep both Ip's running for a few weeks.. thats what I did..
If you are not changing the ip's then simply keep both MX records running for a while..

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Valencia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 03 May 2002 06:04
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Domain name change


We will soon be changing domain names.
If any of you have recently undergone this please advise me of the steps to
take.
We are using WindowsNT/Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 98/200/XP.
What changes do I make on the Exchange server to reflect this change?
How do I make an easy transition so people can get mail from both the new
and the old at least for a while?
How do I make the change so the email addresses at least going out will
reflect the new name.
Any help in the right direction will be appreciated.
Thank you



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Re: Domain name change

2002-05-03 Thread Missy Koslosky

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxk.htm
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: Domain name change


We will soon be changing domain names.
If any of you have recently undergone this please advise me of the steps
to
take.
We are using WindowsNT/Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 98/200/XP.
What changes do I make on the Exchange server to reflect this change?
How do I make an easy transition so people can get mail from both the
new
and the old at least for a while?
How do I make the change so the email addresses at least going out will
reflect the new name.
Any help in the right direction will be appreciated.
Thank you



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RE: Domain name change

2002-05-03 Thread Dawson, Valencia

The domain name is what is changing- email address etc. I am not moving the
server to a new domain.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain name change


http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxk.htm
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: Domain name change


We will soon be changing domain names.
If any of you have recently undergone this please advise me of the steps
to
take.
We are using WindowsNT/Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 98/200/XP.
What changes do I make on the Exchange server to reflect this change?
How do I make an easy transition so people can get mail from both the
new
and the old at least for a while?
How do I make the change so the email addresses at least going out will
reflect the new name.
Any help in the right direction will be appreciated.
Thank you



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RE: Domain name change

2002-05-03 Thread Ruan Kotze - CPX NAM

Will you be moving over to a new IP range as well?

Regards
Ruan

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Valencia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain name change


The domain name is what is changing- email address etc. I am not moving the
server to a new domain.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain name change


http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxk.htm
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: Domain name change


We will soon be changing domain names.
If any of you have recently undergone this please advise me of the steps
to
take.
We are using WindowsNT/Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 98/200/XP.
What changes do I make on the Exchange server to reflect this change?
How do I make an easy transition so people can get mail from both the
new
and the old at least for a while?
How do I make the change so the email addresses at least going out will
reflect the new name.
Any help in the right direction will be appreciated.
Thank you



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RE: Domain name change

2002-05-03 Thread Dawson, Valencia

That was already done.

-Original Message-
From: Ruan Kotze - CPX NAM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain name change


Will you be moving over to a new IP range as well?

Regards
Ruan

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Valencia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain name change


The domain name is what is changing- email address etc. I am not moving the
server to a new domain.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain name change


http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxk.htm
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: Domain name change


We will soon be changing domain names.
If any of you have recently undergone this please advise me of the steps
to
take.
We are using WindowsNT/Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 98/200/XP.
What changes do I make on the Exchange server to reflect this change?
How do I make an easy transition so people can get mail from both the
new
and the old at least for a while?
How do I make the change so the email addresses at least going out will
reflect the new name.
Any help in the right direction will be appreciated.
Thank you



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RE: Domain name change

2002-05-03 Thread Ruan Kotze - CPX NAM

In that case you'll need to have two smtp addresses on each mailbox, one for
the old and one for the new domain. Change the MX and A records on the old
domain to point to the new ip, and you'll be all set.  If your old domain
doesn't exist anymore, you'll have to re-register it.

Regards
Ruan

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Valencia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain name change


That was already done.

-Original Message-
From: Ruan Kotze - CPX NAM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 11:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain name change


Will you be moving over to a new IP range as well?

Regards
Ruan

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Valencia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain name change


The domain name is what is changing- email address etc. I am not moving the
server to a new domain.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain name change


http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxk.htm
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: Domain name change


We will soon be changing domain names.
If any of you have recently undergone this please advise me of the steps
to
take.
We are using WindowsNT/Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 98/200/XP.
What changes do I make on the Exchange server to reflect this change?
How do I make an easy transition so people can get mail from both the
new
and the old at least for a while?
How do I make the change so the email addresses at least going out will
reflect the new name.
Any help in the right direction will be appreciated.
Thank you



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Re: Domain name change

2002-05-03 Thread Missy Koslosky

Oh.  Duh.

Add the new addresses to your GAL.  You'll need to:

1)  Export your current GAL to a CSV.
2) Create a new header called secondary-proxy addresses.
3)  Copy all current domain SMTP addresses to the new field.  Format
MUST be smtp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - note lower case smtp.
4)  Create new SMTP addresses for all users (if your localpart is
remaining the same, simply replace the old name with the new in the
e-mail addresses column).
5)  Import your changes.

Q155414 should help if you're unfamiliar with import  export processes.

And add an MX record in DNS for the new domain.

Better?
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: Domain name change


The domain name is what is changing- email address etc. I am not moving
the
server to a new domain.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain name change


http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxk.htm
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: Domain name change


We will soon be changing domain names.
If any of you have recently undergone this please advise me of the steps
to
take.
We are using WindowsNT/Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 98/200/XP.
What changes do I make on the Exchange server to reflect this change?
How do I make an easy transition so people can get mail from both the
new
and the old at least for a while?
How do I make the change so the email addresses at least going out will
reflect the new name.
Any help in the right direction will be appreciated.
Thank you



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RE: Domain name change

2002-05-03 Thread Schwartz, Jim

Don't forget to change the settings on what ever you use for anti-relaying
to accept mail for the new domain.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain name change


Oh.  Duh.

Add the new addresses to your GAL.  You'll need to:

1)  Export your current GAL to a CSV.
2) Create a new header called secondary-proxy addresses.
3)  Copy all current domain SMTP addresses to the new field.  Format MUST be
smtp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - note lower case smtp.
4)  Create new SMTP addresses for all users (if your localpart is remaining
the same, simply replace the old name with the new in the e-mail addresses
column).
5)  Import your changes.

Q155414 should help if you're unfamiliar with import  export processes.

And add an MX record in DNS for the new domain.

Better?
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: Domain name change


The domain name is what is changing- email address etc. I am not moving the
server to a new domain.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain name change


http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxk.htm
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: Domain name change


We will soon be changing domain names.
If any of you have recently undergone this please advise me of the steps to
take. We are using WindowsNT/Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 98/200/XP. What
changes do I make on the Exchange server to reflect this change? How do I
make an easy transition so people can get mail from both the new and the old
at least for a while? How do I make the change so the email addresses at
least going out will reflect the new name. Any help in the right direction
will be appreciated. Thank you



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RE: Domain name change

2002-05-03 Thread Dawson, Valencia

I think I am on my way now.
Thank you all.

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain name change


Don't forget to change the settings on what ever you use for anti-relaying
to accept mail for the new domain.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 1:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain name change


Oh.  Duh.

Add the new addresses to your GAL.  You'll need to:

1)  Export your current GAL to a CSV.
2) Create a new header called secondary-proxy addresses.
3)  Copy all current domain SMTP addresses to the new field.  Format MUST be
smtp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - note lower case smtp.
4)  Create new SMTP addresses for all users (if your localpart is remaining
the same, simply replace the old name with the new in the e-mail addresses
column).
5)  Import your changes.

Q155414 should help if you're unfamiliar with import  export processes.

And add an MX record in DNS for the new domain.

Better?
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: Domain name change


The domain name is what is changing- email address etc. I am not moving the
server to a new domain.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain name change


http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxk.htm
- Original Message -
From: Dawson, Valencia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: Domain name change


We will soon be changing domain names.
If any of you have recently undergone this please advise me of the steps to
take. We are using WindowsNT/Exchange 5.5 with Outlook 98/200/XP. What
changes do I make on the Exchange server to reflect this change? How do I
make an easy transition so people can get mail from both the new and the old
at least for a while? How do I make the change so the email addresses at
least going out will reflect the new name. Any help in the right direction
will be appreciated. Thank you



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Re: Domain name change

2001-11-04 Thread Hans Willi Kremer

Dear friend,

1. create a recipient policy that creates the new (second) smtp-address
for each of the users
(like @second.com). You can do that in e2k system manager.
2. Create an MX record in the internet-dns that directs internet mail
designated for the new second adress (second.com) to the smtp-connector
of your e2k-organisation (may be the same e2k-server).
3. if your users should be represented with the new domain name, so you
can decide to take the new smtp-address as first-address in response
mails.
3. for your outlook users the whole thing is transparent - you have to
do nothing. But it's better to inform the users to take the new address
in their signature and so on...

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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: dp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. November 2001 05:44
An: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Betreff: RE: Domain name change


Have both addresses in SMTP ? Forward old to new?

-Original Message-
From: Tianhong Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 10:20
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Domain name change



Our domain will be changed soon. So the email will be change too. What
should I do in order to let users to get the email from old and new
email address both. We use Exchange 2000 and Outlook98/2000.

Thanks

Tianhong

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RE: Domain name change

2001-11-01 Thread Lefkovics, William

1) configure MX records.
2) add second domain through default recipient policy (or your custom
recipient policy)

william

-Original Message-
From: Tianhong Zhang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 7:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Domain name change



Our domain will be changed soon. So the email will be change too. What
should I do in order to let users to get the email from old and new
email address both. We use Exchange 2000 and Outlook98/2000.

Thanks

Tianhong

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RE: Domain type stuck in IMS

2001-10-31 Thread Campbell, Rob

Sounds like a DNS problem.  If you're using an internal DNS that's doing
forwarding make sure there hasn't been a .net zone created on your internal
DNS.

 -Original Message-
 From: Errol Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 7:38 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Domain type stuck in IMS
 
 
 I sent a note yesterday regarding a particular domain (earthlink.net)
 stuck in the IMS.  It seems that it is not just one domain, 
 but one domain
 type sitting in the outbound queue.  The emails stuck are all .net
 domain types.  Anyone else experience this?
 
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RE: domain name problems with exchange

2001-08-24 Thread msharik

*curtsy*  You're quite welcome!

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-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain name problems with exchange


Thank you. It's always nice to see the word breast thrown in any
conversation. Tends to lift the general content of the conversation.

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www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain name problems with exchange

Freudian slipcovers -- keep your furniture looking its breast.  er, I mean
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-


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain name problems with exchange


Freudian record slip?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain name problems with exchange



Gentlemen,
Thanks for the help. MY DNS gay had messed up the
record and it is now fixed thanks
Chris

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RE: domain name problems with exchange

2001-08-23 Thread Martin Blackstone

As a side note, mail.rootcandles.com does have records, but since you
decided not to use that, the point is moot.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: domain name problems with exchange


My mansgement and I wanted to call our email server mail.rootcandles.com
after discussion with the other execs he cameback and told me to change
it to
rootcandles.com(-mail.) I changes the dns entries on
all of the accounts to have both and the mx record to
reflect the needed change and it gives me this error.
A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.

511 5.0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sorry [209.221.23.134],
Invalid address rootcandles.com. The message that caused this
notification was:


  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  test

Does anyone have any ideas. 
Thanks In Advanced.
Chris


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RE: domain name problems with exchange

2001-08-23 Thread msharik

Is rootcandles.com(-mail.)  even a valid host name??

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: domain name problems with exchange


My mansgement and I wanted to call our email server
mail.rootcandles.com after discussion with the other
execs he cameback and told me to change it to
rootcandles.com(-mail.) I changes the dns entries on
all of the accounts to have both and the mx record to
reflect the needed change and it gives me this error.
A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.

511 5.0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sorry
[209.221.23.134],
Invalid address rootcandles.com.
The message that caused this notification was:


  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  test

Does anyone have any ideas. 
Thanks In Advanced.
Chris


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RE: domain name problems with exchange

2001-08-23 Thread Martin Blackstone

I think what he meant was the he removed the mail part...
I had to think about it for few minutes.

If he didn’t, that is the most hosed name I have ever seen.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain name problems with exchange


Is rootcandles.com(-mail.)  even a valid host name??

-Michèle
Immigration site:  http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata:  http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam:  http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
Standards are like toothbrushes.  Everybody agrees you should have one,
but no one wants to use yours. 
-


-Original Message-
From: Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:55 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: domain name problems with exchange


My mansgement and I wanted to call our email server mail.rootcandles.com
after discussion with the other execs he cameback and told me to change
it to
rootcandles.com(-mail.) I changes the dns entries on
all of the accounts to have both and the mx record to
reflect the needed change and it gives me this error.
A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.

511 5.0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sorry [209.221.23.134],
Invalid address rootcandles.com. The message that caused this
notification was:


  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:  test

Does anyone have any ideas. 
Thanks In Advanced.
Chris


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RE: domain name problems with exchange

2001-08-23 Thread Chris Hampton


Gentlemen,
Thanks for the help. MY DNS gay had messed up the
record and it is now fixed thanks
Chris

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RE: domain name problems with exchange

2001-08-23 Thread David James

Does he know he's the DNS gay?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain name problems with exchange



Gentlemen,
Thanks for the help. MY DNS gay had messed up the
record and it is now fixed thanks
Chris

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RE: domain name problems with exchange

2001-08-23 Thread Lefkovics, William

Freudian record slip?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain name problems with exchange



Gentlemen,
Thanks for the help. MY DNS gay had messed up the
record and it is now fixed thanks
Chris

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RE: domain name problems with exchange

2001-08-23 Thread Clark, Steve

Thank you. It's always nice to see the word breast thrown in any
conversation. Tends to lift the general content of the conversation.

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain name problems with exchange

Freudian slipcovers -- keep your furniture looking its breast.  er, I mean
best

-Michèle
Immigration site:  http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata:  http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam:  http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.
-


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 4:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain name problems with exchange


Freudian record slip?

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:03 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: domain name problems with exchange



Gentlemen,
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record and it is now fixed thanks
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