[expert] I am not asked which CD's I have in 7.2 with expert installation!
Hi! I have noticed, that whenever I select expert installation I am not asked which CD's I have so nothing from second CD is installed! I am asked if I select Custom install! Any ideas?? Bye, Alen
[expert] ISDNINFO ...
Someone know where are the files 'isdninfo' and some others withe the new isdn4k-utils ??? Eric MC
Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
Chris, Maybe you should change the name of "unsupported" to "bleeding-edge". They might get the idea then, do ya think? :) -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sat, 3 Feb 2001, Christopher Molnar wrote: Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:04:08 -0500 From: Christopher Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function On Friday 02 February 2001 14:59, you wrote: Maybe you don't need to do a clean install. Maybe only KDE, CUPS, xinitrc, egcs, ghostscript, arts, jkd, etc. need to be updated. If you know what you're doing, then go for it. But to blame Mandrake because your patchwork upgrade breaks a beta version of KDE is just dumb. If you're not prepared for problems, don't run beta software. Hmmm... add to that Beta software downloaded from a directory named "unsupported" with a README that tells you it is unsupported :-) Also, try sending a note to the packager, he may be willing to help you after he reads the other 200 emails in his inbox. -Chris
Re: [expert] CUPS prints a banner page I don't want
Thanks for the advice. I tried it, but kups keeps crashing. I haven't received my update cd from Mandrake yet. I'll try rebooting and see if I can get kups to work. Thanks again for the help, I hope it works. Original Message On 2/3/01, 8:17:47 PM, Christopher Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [expert] CUPS prints a banner page I don't want: On Friday 02 February 2001 21:57, you wrote: When I print from any application, a banner page prints with the following information: @PJL EOJ @PJL JOB NAME="CUPSOMATIC". After that the page I wanted to print does so with no problem, then a third page prints with this information: Operand stack: 344.64 excecution stack: %interp_exit runexec2 --nostringval--. This happens no matter what app I print from. It is bugging the crap out of me. Someone please help, I'm running dangerously low on crap :) ALT-F2 kdesu -c kups Go to right click on printer name, configure, uncheck "print banner" If I remember right. -Chris
Re: [expert] Konqueror printing - another try
On Saturday 03 February 2001 19:16, Christopher Molnar wrote: Can you do a: rpm -qa|grep kde rpm -qa|grep qt and send the results? Thanks, -Chris On Friday 02 February 2001 21:16, you wrote: I am not able to print documents from Konqueror on MDK7.2 system. [snip] here is rpm -qa|grep kde kdesupport-2.0-1mdk kdelibs-2.0-5mdk kdelibs-sound-2.0-5mdk kde1-compat-1.1.2-7mdk kdebase-2.0-7mdk kdenetwork-2.0-1mdk kdepim-2.0-1mdk kdegraphics-2.0-4mdk kdemultimedia-2.0-4mdk kdeaddutils-2.0-3mdk kdesdk-2.0-1mdk kdeutils-2.0-3mdk kdelibs-devel-2.0-5mdk kdetoys-2.0-1mdk kdeadmin-2.0-2mdk kde-i18n-British-2.0-1mdk kdegames-2.0-1mdk kdesupport-devel-2.0-1mdk kdemultimedia-devel-2.0-4mdk kdeaddutils-devel-2.0-3mdk kdelibs-sound-devel-2.0-5mdk kdenetwork-devel-2.0-1mdk kdegraphics-devel-2.0-4mdk kdebase-devel-2.0-7mdk here is rpm -qa|grep qt qt2-2.2.1-3mdk qt-1.44-28mdk qtcups-1.0-14mdk qt2-devel-2.2.1-3mdk qt-qgl-1.44-28mdk qt-qimgio-1.44-28mdk qt-devel-1.44-28mdk qt2-doc-2.2.1-3mdk -- Thanks, Collins Richey Denver area
Re: [expert] I am not asked which CD's I have in 7.2 with expertinstallation!
Hi Alen, You know, I cannot remember if it asks that is the being or not when you do expert. But it does ask you to put it in later... Cecil Alen Salamun wrote: Hi! I have noticed, that whenever I select expert installation I am not asked which CD's I have so nothing from second CD is installed! I am asked if I select Custom install! Any ideas?? Bye, Alen
Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
"They" full well know what unsupported means. It is OFFICIALLY not supported. Why? Is it because there is any REAL difference between the SUPPORTED version (in OFFICIAL cooker) and the "unsupported" versions for 7.2? NO. No difference. The only real difference is the former is built from glibc2.2 while the latter is built with glibc2.1. Big deal. For all PRACTICAL purposes, they are identical. This is proven true by the fact that if you download the straight source from KDE rather than from Mandrake sources, it does not say you MUST use glibc2.2. Many other distros that are making use of the latest KDE are NOT using glibc2.2 (yet). Get off your snide, sarcastic platform. Complaint or criticism IS valid, regardless. How would you EVER know of any problem if no one did this? As for tone, when repeated and repeated questions or posts of problems concerning what should be a VERY simple problem and answer go unanswered repeatedly, then I would say tone has every right to change. Get over it. On Sunday 04 February 2001 05:41, Mark Weaver wrote: Chris, Maybe you should change the name of "unsupported" to "bleeding-edge". They might get the idea then, do ya think? :) -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
Re: [expert] Problem compiling kde2 programs
For whatever reason, I have found, since Mandrake 7.0 or so, that my Mandrake systems, with ALL development libs and support installed, simply cannot and will not compile kde anymore. If I download a source rpm for kde or a tarball, even though qt2, qt2 devel, etc, is installed I have never gotten past similar problems as indicated by David. This has been true regardless of the level of update I try for such things as gcc, egcs, glibc, qt2, and so forth. I have long been curious just what it is about, say, your system (Chris) that differs from mine in this regard. I am assuming you are using Mandrake and that it isn't cooker... Nothing extra added? No special "rpm --relocate" s? For you to successfully build kde src rpms, what do you have installed? On Sunday 04 February 2001 00:38, Christopher Molnar wrote: Can you post the results of rpm -qa|grep kde here please? That will give me a better idea of the problem. On Saturday 03 February 2001 18:04, David Comeau wrote: I originally sent this twice to the kde-devel mailing list and got nowhere with them, so I'm trying my luck here instead. Since installing fresh, linux-mandrake 7.2, which of course uses kde2, I haven't been able to compile any kde program. When doing ./configure, regardless of the kde2 program, I always get: checking for kde headers installed... In file included from /usr/include/kapp.h:45, from conftest.C:4: /usr/include/kurl.h:24: qvaluelist.h: No such file or directory configure: error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application! Check, if you installed the KDE header files correctly. So, I exported QTDIR to point to /usr/lib/qt2, because that is the location of qvaluelist.h. Now, I get the following when I do ./configure: checking for kde headers installed... conftest.C: In function `int main()': conftest.C:7: no method `KApplication::kde_htmldir' conftest.C:8: no method `KApplication::kde_appsdir' conftest.C:9: no method `KApplication::kde_icondir' conftest.C:10: no method `KApplication::kde_sounddir' conftest.C:11: no method `KApplication::kde_datadir' conftest.C:12: no method `KApplication::kde_localedir' conftest.C:13: no method `KApplication::kde_cgidir' conftest.C:14: no method `KApplication::kde_configdir' conftest.C:15: no method `KApplication::kde_mimedir' conftest.C:16: no method `KApplication::kde_toolbardir' conftest.C:17: no method `KApplication::kde_wallpaperdir' conftest.C:18: no method `KApplication::kde_bindir' conftest.C:19: no method `KApplication::kde_partsdir' configure: error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application! Check, if you installed the KDE header files correctly. Does anyone have a remedy for this. It is getting a little monotoneous. I hate being dependant on the distribution to upgrade or compile my software. -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
[expert] I cannot print in a remote samba server with cups.
Hello to all, I am writing since I have a problem trying to print into a samba server from any X Windows application using cups. The computer I am trying to print from uses Linux Mandrake version 7.2 and the cups related program versions, according to the "rpm -qa |grep cups" command output, are libcups1-1.1.5-3mdk cups-common-1.1.5-3mdk libqtcups1-1.1-2.1mdk qtcups-1.1-2.1mdk cups-1.1.5-3mdk cups-drivers-1.0-3mdk From a shell I am able to print a text file using lpr normally. After trying to print from any X Windows application, the printer is disabled as the lpq command reports: [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lpq lp is not ready RankOwner Job File(s) Total Size 1st fabian 34 (stdin) 606208 bytes The content of /var/log/cups/error_log is the following: I [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] Job 34 queued on 'lp' by 'fabian'. I [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 30895) for job 34. I [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb (PID 30896) for job 34. E [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] ERRDOS - ERRfilexists (The file named in a Create Directory, Make New File or Link request already exists.) opening remote file (stdin) E [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] PID 30896 stopped with status 1! I [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] Saving printers.conf... I must remove the job: [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lprm 34 [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lpq lp is not ready no entries and enable the remote printer with "lpadmin -plp -E" as root: [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpadmin -plp -E [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpq lp is ready Does anyone know how to fix this ? Any idea would be greatly appreciated. Fabian.
Re: [expert] rpm-3.0 to rpm-4.0 catch 22
On 04 Feb 2001 05:04:47 +, Richard -Gilligan- Uschold wrote: Bill Piety wrote: On 04 Feb 2001 01:18:55 +, Richard -Gilligan- Uschold wrote: Bill Piety wrote: On 03 Feb 2001 19:30:26 +, Richard -Gilligan- Uschold wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03-Feb-2001 Richard -Gilligan- Uschold wrote: Questions: 1. Is there a rpm package distributor that identifies which version of rpm was used to build the packages? Who? Doesn't matter, the rpm package itself is binary compatible between version 3 and 4. (See the list archieves on cooker) If that is the case, please explain the following error message to me, and how I correct it. Several other people have said I need to upgrade to rpm-4.0, or perhaps only 3.0.5 or 3.0.6. I get this error with both 3.0.3 and 3.0.5. The original symptoms: rpm gives this error message with some packages "only packages with major numbers =3 are supported by this version of RPM" NOTE: this is not the usual dependency problem, the RPM program itself, fails to open "Guppi-0.35.2-1.i586.rpm", even for query! snip 3.0.3 - forget. I solved my rpm problems by going to the rpm ftp site, finding my version (which was at 3.0.4 at the time) and incrementally upgrading until I reached 3.0.5-27. If you decide to try this, don't worry about using the intermediate RH rpm's along the way. I did a manual rebuilddb with each. There may be 2 dependency issues along the way - don't disregard them. 1 will be a menu upgrade, the 2nd bzip2. It's not necessary to address upgrading bzip itself - that's a dependency nightmare. There's a libbzip that'll solve your problem. Not a single pkg number warning since. I also haven't seen a convincing argument to go all the way to 4.0.x either. This route may be tedious but it's safe - rpm's not a proggy to mishandle. My current version is: rpm-3.03-43mdk.i586.rpm On ftp.rpm.org/pub/rpm/dist/rpm-3.0.x/ among others, there are: rpm-3.0.3-4x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.3-5x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.3-6x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.4-4x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.4-5x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.4-6x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.5-7.5x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.5-7.6x.i386.rpm In late November, I upgraded from 3.0.3-43mdk to 3.0.5-27mdk. There were no dependency issues then. Yesterday, I downgraded back to 3.0.3-43mdk (which came with Mandrake 7.0), as a test to see what would happen. Are you saying I should upgrade to each of the following in sequence? rpm-3.0.3-43mdk.i586.rpm current version rpm-3.0.3-5x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.3-6x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.4-4x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.4-5x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.4-6x.i386.rpm rpm-3.0.5-27mdk.i586.rpm If there are no dependencies going directly from rpm-3.0.3-5x.i386.rpm to rpm-3.0.5-27mdk.i586.rpm, why go through all of the steps? What does it by you? If there is an intermediate dependency that eventually goes away, who cares? -- Gilligan|__o .oooO I started from Mandrake 7.1, 3.0.4-4x, so had 2 intermediate steps. Tho I found many threads with problems, no clear-cut solutions were offered. I opted for caution because of the nature of the prog. Besides, rpm's not that large a download. And I don't know that the 'intermediate' dependencies would have gone away on my system. In this instance, rather 1 or 2 'unnecessary' steps that take only a few minutes than 1 misstep that'll take a lot longer to correct. I did most of this from kpackage, except the --rebuilddb, and where noted. Here's what I did: ignore: rpm-3.0.3-5x.i386.rpmkpackage doesn't display, older than 3.0.3-43mdk ignore: rpm-3.0.3-6x.i386.rpmkpackage doesn't display, older than 3.0.3-43mdk uninstall: rpm-devel-3.0.3-43mdk.i586.rpm no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.4-4x.i386.rpm rpm --rebuilddb no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.4-5x.i386.rpm rpm --rebuilddb rpm-3.0.4-6x.i386.rpm requires libbz2.so.0 in bzip2-0.9.5d-2.i386.rpm this is older than my current: bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk and there are several packages that require this, also, there are several conflicting files between the two versions, although, bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk does not have libbz2.so.0, so from the command line: rpm -i --force bzip2-0.9.5d-2.i386.rpm rpm -i --force bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk.i586.rpm rpm --rebuilddb no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.4-6x.i386.rpm rpm --rebuilddb no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.5-27mdk.i586.rpm rpm --rebuilddb no dependencies, so update: rpm-devel-3.0.5-27mdk.i586.rpm So, now I'm back to where I was two months ago, except I have a few old bzip2-0.9.5d libraries that are not overwritten by bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk After each upgrade step of rpm, I tried to view Guppi-0.35.2-1.i586.rpm in kpackage and I got the exact same error every
Re: [expert] Problem compiling kde2 programs
No, my systems is a standard 7.2 install. I install using Development and Expert mode. Do not install any additional packages. Then I upgrade egcs and xinitscripts (or something like that) to the latest and build. I do not do anything different. I do not use cooker as I try to stay a little more compatible with the rest of everyone who is using my rpm's. -Chris On Sunday 04 February 2001 11:29, you wrote: For whatever reason, I have found, since Mandrake 7.0 or so, that my Mandrake systems, with ALL development libs and support installed, simply cannot and will not compile kde anymore. If I download a source rpm for kde or a tarball, even though qt2, qt2 devel, etc, is installed I have never gotten past similar problems as indicated by David. This has been true regardless of the level of update I try for such things as gcc, egcs, glibc, qt2, and so forth. I have long been curious just what it is about, say, your system (Chris) that differs from mine in this regard. I am assuming you are using Mandrake and that it isn't cooker... Nothing extra added? No special "rpm --relocate" s? For you to successfully build kde src rpms, what do you have installed? On Sunday 04 February 2001 00:38, Christopher Molnar wrote: Can you post the results of rpm -qa|grep kde here please? That will give me a better idea of the problem. On Saturday 03 February 2001 18:04, David Comeau wrote: I originally sent this twice to the kde-devel mailing list and got nowhere with them, so I'm trying my luck here instead. Since installing fresh, linux-mandrake 7.2, which of course uses kde2, I haven't been able to compile any kde program. When doing ./configure, regardless of the kde2 program, I always get: checking for kde headers installed... In file included from /usr/include/kapp.h:45, from conftest.C:4: /usr/include/kurl.h:24: qvaluelist.h: No such file or directory configure: error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application! Check, if you installed the KDE header files correctly. So, I exported QTDIR to point to /usr/lib/qt2, because that is the location of qvaluelist.h. Now, I get the following when I do ./configure: checking for kde headers installed... conftest.C: In function `int main()': conftest.C:7: no method `KApplication::kde_htmldir' conftest.C:8: no method `KApplication::kde_appsdir' conftest.C:9: no method `KApplication::kde_icondir' conftest.C:10: no method `KApplication::kde_sounddir' conftest.C:11: no method `KApplication::kde_datadir' conftest.C:12: no method `KApplication::kde_localedir' conftest.C:13: no method `KApplication::kde_cgidir' conftest.C:14: no method `KApplication::kde_configdir' conftest.C:15: no method `KApplication::kde_mimedir' conftest.C:16: no method `KApplication::kde_toolbardir' conftest.C:17: no method `KApplication::kde_wallpaperdir' conftest.C:18: no method `KApplication::kde_bindir' conftest.C:19: no method `KApplication::kde_partsdir' configure: error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application! Check, if you installed the KDE header files correctly. Does anyone have a remedy for this. It is getting a little monotoneous. I hate being dependant on the distribution to upgrade or compile my software.
Re: [expert] I am not asked which CD's I have in 7.2 with expertinstallation!
Hi! I didn't, and I installed expert installation over 10 times now. Always the same. Like I have "jed" selected, but the package is not installed (since it is on CD 2) and I am never asked for CD 2! Bye, Alen - Original Message - From: "Cecil Watson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [expert] I am not asked which CD's I have in 7.2 with expertinstallation! Hi Alen, You know, I cannot remember if it asks that is the being or not when you do expert. But it does ask you to put it in later... Cecil Alen Salamun wrote: Hi! I have noticed, that whenever I select expert installation I am not asked which CD's I have so nothing from second CD is installed! I am asked if I select Custom install! Any ideas?? Bye, Alen
Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
#1 - the unsupported are not built with cooker. I am starting to suspect this is the problem with a lot of the problems. They are also not built for cooker. #2 - people do not follow directions. Every person who has followed the directions step by step, not tried to rebuild part of the systems, move menus, etc has not had any problems. There are also a lot of people who are mixing Cooker and 7.2 still, after repeated explanations. #3 - you say there is not any real difference between the Unsupported and the cooker version, actually there is. First, I do not build the unsupported version on Mandrake machines. I build on a personal laptop, wherever in the world I happen to be traveling. For example, today I am Berkeley, CA. This means that Mandrake does not know what is on my machine so they can not support the RPMs. Further, I have removed a LARGE number of patches and am using way more current CVS code for all of my RPM's than you will find in cooker. It is not the same SRPM that has been rebuilt. I check out changes as the build script runs. I do not advise going to the new glibc, I differ in the opinion of my employers with this (ok, I am now going to get shot) I think that the developers of gcc have a reason for advising us not to use the latest development version in a distro. The KDE team has said NOT to use the new version to compile kde in a distro, again so I do not. You mention attitude and tone. I am not paid to make these RPM's, I am not paid to consistantly fix peoples broken systems. I think you would probably get a little tired of 100 emails saying that I caused their systems to die after I have seen a lot of other people install by following the directions, which most people never read. In retrospect I should never have asked for and encouraged the unsupported directory, as I think it is causing more problems than it is worth. -Chris On Sunday 04 February 2001 11:21, you wrote: "They" full well know what unsupported means. It is OFFICIALLY not supported. Why? Is it because there is any REAL difference between the SUPPORTED version (in OFFICIAL cooker) and the "unsupported" versions for 7.2? NO. No difference. The only real difference is the former is built from glibc2.2 while the latter is built with glibc2.1. Big deal. For all PRACTICAL purposes, they are identical. This is proven true by the fact that if you download the straight source from KDE rather than from Mandrake sources, it does not say you MUST use glibc2.2. Many other distros that are making use of the latest KDE are NOT using glibc2.2 (yet). Get off your snide, sarcastic platform. Complaint or criticism IS valid, regardless. How would you EVER know of any problem if no one did this? As for tone, when repeated and repeated questions or posts of problems concerning what should be a VERY simple problem and answer go unanswered repeatedly, then I would say tone has every right to change. Get over it. On Sunday 04 February 2001 05:41, Mark Weaver wrote: Chris, Maybe you should change the name of "unsupported" to "bleeding-edge". They might get the idea then, do ya think? :)
[expert] LM72: Why no Pine?
Is there any reason why Pine is not installed with LM72 by default? Instead, I ended up with Elm on all of my installs - workstation, server, development, install everything, etc. Just curious.
[expert] 5Dwm (4Dwm) for Linux
Hi I don't know if anybody is excited about this as me but I've just found a sort of Linux porting to the wonderful IRIX 4Dwm. go to http://www.5Dwm.org and have fun. Bye -- Haim
[expert] MandrakeUpdate
OK, for starts, I cannot for the life of me find a bug-submission method anywhere on the Linux-Mandrake web-page. Only the mandrakeexpert.com service and pay-for-support options. Is there a better place to post the following problem? Problem: MandrakeUpdate does not seem to deal with dependencies at all - for example, it offered cups 1.1.6 as an update to 1.1.4, but it didn't try to download the now needed libcups files (cups 1.1.4 didn't need libcups, so it wasn't installed). This made it impossible to update cups without manually downloading and installing libcups. For newbies, or just plain lazy people (like me at 4:00 am), this is a Bad Thing (tm). Also, I'm not subscribed to this list, it generates *way* too much traffic for me. If you have a response you'd like me to get, make sure you reply or CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sean Middleditch of AwesomePlay Productions, Inc.
Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
I do not advise going to the new glibc, I differ in the opinion of my employers with this (ok, I am now going to get shot) I think that the developers of gcc have a reason for advising us not to use the latest Please convince your employers that you are right (grin). I like Mandrake but their 'bleeding edge' approach seems very inconsistent with the time they're spending courting Windows desktop users with all the GUI admin tool development. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [expert] Tweaking Harddrives - Any More Tips?
On Sunday February 2001 12:30 Jerry wrote: I add mine to rc.sysinit and it held all day yesterday with some heavy use, and a couple of trial reboots seem to show no problems with it getting activated. Thanks, Jerry On Friday 02 February 2001 03:04, s wrote: I've read that you need to put it in a startup script. I put mine in the rc.local though the sysinit or every_time maybe more desirable cause stuff in the rc.local sometimes run more than once and seem to run on shutdown. -s On Friday 02 February 2001 01:47 pm, you wrote: I have ata100 drive and and in grub I have ide0=noautotune idebus=100 On bootI see the message assuming ide33 overriding with with idebusxxx. So I assume it is recognizing the ata100 controll. BTW it is an Intel 815e MB. Now when I run hdparm -c -d -k /dev/hda I get I/O suport = 0 (16-bit) using_dma = 0 (off) keepsettings = (0) off I run hdparm -c1 -d1 -k1 /dev/hda I get the same as below, and all testing of the drive by moving files and etc, everything seems ok. But when I reboot, the hard drive resets everything back to off. I thought the hdparm -k1 /dev/hda was supposed to save the settings? Is there a way to make it save these setting with out editing an init script, if not which script to I add it do rc.local? sysinit? Thanks, Jerry On Tuesday 30 January 2001 07:50, Sevatio Octavio wrote: I'm trying to improve my HD's performance. HDPARM -t /dev/hda yields only 9 MB/Sec # hdparm -c -d -k /dev/hda /dev/hda: I/O support = 1 (32-bit) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 1 (on) Are there other things to try to improve this? System: 20gig HD, 500Mhz K6/2 AMD, Asus P5A mobo. Thanks, Seve
Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
On Sunday 04 February 2001 08:46, Christopher Molnar wrote: You mention attitude and tone. I am not paid to make these RPM's, I am not paid to consistantly fix peoples broken systems. I think you would probably get a little tired of 100 emails saying that I caused their systems to die after I have seen a lot of other people install by following the directions, which most people never read. In retrospect I should never have asked for and encouraged the unsupported directory, as I think it is causing more problems than it is worth. I'm amazed at how far KDE 2 has come since the release version of 7.2. Considering 2.0 was a milestone, I was kinda expecting the developers to take a break -- but they're obviously not. I really appreciate the work you've done to provide us with these packages, Chris, and I'm sure most who've tried them would agree. I hope you won't let one person's remarks convince you otherwise. M. -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design
Re: [expert] I cannot print in a remote samba server with cups.
I had the same problems. Everytime I printed something from a Winblows machine, samba would crash. Instead I installed TCP/IP Printing on my Winblows client and then configured my Linux box to allow remote lpd by adding the following line to /etc/inetd.conf: printer stream tcp nowait lp /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd cups-lpd ... and then did a killall -1 inetd to reload the config file. Luis On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, [X-UNKNOWN] Peña Arellano Fabian Erasmo wrote: Hello to all, I am writing since I have a problem trying to print into a samba server from any X Windows application using cups. The computer I am trying to print from uses Linux Mandrake version 7.2 and the cups related program versions, according to the "rpm -qa |grep cups" command output, are libcups1-1.1.5-3mdk cups-common-1.1.5-3mdk libqtcups1-1.1-2.1mdk qtcups-1.1-2.1mdk cups-1.1.5-3mdk cups-drivers-1.0-3mdk From a shell I am able to print a text file using lpr normally. After trying to print from any X Windows application, the printer is disabled as the lpq command reports: [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lpq lp is not ready RankOwner Job File(s) Total Size 1st fabian 34 (stdin) 606208 bytes The content of /var/log/cups/error_log is the following: I [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] Job 34 queued on 'lp' by 'fabian'. I [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 30895) for job 34. I [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb (PID 30896) for job 34. E [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] ERRDOS - ERRfilexists (The file named in a Create Directory, Make New File or Link request already exists.) opening remote file (stdin) E [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] PID 30896 stopped with status 1! I [04/Feb/2001:09:56:35 +] Saving printers.conf... I must remove the job: [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lprm 34 [fabian@ahuizotl fabian]$ lpq lp is not ready no entries and enable the remote printer with "lpadmin -plp -E" as root: [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpadmin -plp -E [root@ahuizotl /root]# lpq lp is ready Does anyone know how to fix this ? Any idea would be greatly appreciated. Fabian.
Re: [expert] I was lucky I guess-- was: kcontrol STILL doesn't function
I am a very literal person, concerning the don't read this file, so I read the readme and not the other one and I came out ok, just a couple of hiccups that a couple of very cool people on here --oops sorry meant the newbie list, then again they could have been from here too--sorry need my morning apple juice I guess, anyway just a couple of hiccups to fix and that is as far as I am going. I am very paranoid about upgrading and I don't do it unless I am having alot of trouble with the version I have. I like the crash handler that allows you to send a bug report to kde.org with the stack dump instead of the app just disappearing offscreen and leaving you clicking in open space for 30 seconds, well, thats what core files are for, but just the same. --Just a cut and a paste to a text file and you got a stack dump report. anyway sorry for the ramble, thanx for all the rpms and the step by steps. Vic is out. On Sunday 04 February 2001 11:30 am, so spoke Michael O'Henly: I'm amazed at how far KDE 2 has come since the release version of 7.2. Considering 2.0 was a milestone, I was kinda expecting the developers to take a break -- but they're obviously not. I really appreciate the work you've done to provide us with these packages, Chris, and I'm sure most who've tried them would agree. I hope you won't let one person's remarks convince you otherwise. M.
Re: [expert] I cannot print in a remote samba server with cups.
printer crashes when printing to it from a Windows system via samba/cups Make sure you have the '-o raw' option set in your smb.conf file for the print command. I had a similar problem. It was caused by the Windows box spooling a raw file which the Linux box tried to interpret, causing the printer under cups to fall over. I have set the printer up under samba now with two shares, one includes the -o raw parameter, one doesn't. To use the first, the printer is set up on Windos using the native driver. The second is set up as a generic postscript printer. Both now work quite happily! Hope your problem is fixed this easily __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
I will (somewhat) apologize for my previous tone and chalk it up to a set of bad days above and beyond kcontrol problems. From here: On Sunday 04 February 2001 09:46, Christopher Molnar wrote: #1 - the unsupported are not built with cooker. I am starting to suspect this is the problem with a lot of the problems. They are also not built for cooker. Are you saying that the packages you are producing (I am not unappreciative, really) should be built with cooker? Do you mean they have cooker-specific dependencies? If so, the ONLY problem I have seen of any real consequence is the kcontrol problem. #2 - people do not follow directions. Every person who has followed the directions step by step, not tried to rebuild part of the systems, move menus, etc has not had any problems. There are also a lot of people who are mixing Cooker and 7.2 still, after repeated explanations. I have not mixed Cooker with 7.2. I install no rpms from cooker (most of which would be impossible due to the glibc differences). I did nothing (absolutely nothing) with my menus. Really. No menudrake stuff. You also indicated in a previous post that if we have done anything to, or added anything to our .kde/share/applnk directory, that would be trouble. I did not do this. Besides that, would not totally deleting .kde/ from one's home directory, which means EVERYTHING within it including share/applnk/ and any user-created additions within it, and then restarting and allowing kde to setup one's home with the default settings/setup that it always installs upon running kde for the first time, correct the problem? I also did nothing to /usr/share/applnk or anything within it. Running kbuildsycoca made the problem worse for me rather than correcting it. #3 - you say there is not any real difference between the Unsupported and the cooker version, actually there is. First, I do not build the unsupported version on Mandrake machines. I build on a personal laptop, wherever in the world I happen to be traveling. For example, today I am Berkeley, CA. This means that Mandrake does not know what is on my machine so they can not support the RPMs. What linux version do you run on your laptop then, if not Mandrake? I was assuming it would be one of the Mandrakes. If it isn't, then what packages do you have installed that specifically concern building kde source? Also, are you creating mdk rpms de novo from tarballs or are you using src.rpms? Further, I have removed a LARGE number of patches and am using way more current CVS code for all of my RPM's than you will find in cooker. It is not the same SRPM that has been rebuilt. I check out changes as the build script runs. OK. You mention attitude and tone. I am not paid to make these RPM's, I am not paid to consistantly fix peoples broken systems. I think you would probably get a little tired of 100 emails saying that I caused their systems to die after I have seen a lot of other people install by following the directions, which most people never read. As I have mentioned. I did none of the things that were suggested as causes for the kcontrol problem (menudrake, changes to my applnk directory). I also tried the suggested fixes: copy /usr/share/applnk to my .kde/share/applnk. In addition, I was upgrading from kde 2.1 to 2.1, not from 2.0 to 2.1. There was a definite, if subtle, change in the whole thing somewhere between 0112 and 0118 that resulted in this problem. All was well with kcontrol (there were other problems like sigsevs, etc, in other apps which is what drove the desire to upgrade to the next release of the 2.1 beta - because these problems were fixed). Beyond that, it isn't kde exactly, but I was also hoping to find a functional version of kword, which gets built off each subsequent change in qt2 and kde. Alas, I have given up on kword for now and have gone with lyx (klyx is really broken). As nice as kword COULD be, it is merely another version of a standard linux wordprocessor that has no bibliography/citation capability. Only lyx offers this ability via bibtex, pybliographic (or sixpack). This is neither here nor there. I was upgrading to fix broken things in previous versions. As everything did become more stable, kcontrol somewhere went goofy. I even uninstalled everything kde and qt on my system and reinstalled the latest kde2.1 "clean" (I was previously put off by suggestions that a total reinstall of 7.2 was in order - NO WAY). Someone finally suggested just a "clean" install of kde2.1 (thus I removed all kde stuff). Nonetheless (and again following the install order/proceedure in the README), kcontrol worked for a single session after the initial install and then went blank again - and I had done literally nothing. I then got it working again after deleting .kderc, .kde/, and everything in tmp/ and /tmp (EVERYTHING). I restarted X and kcontrol was working again. Then it crapped
Re: [expert] Problem compiling kde2 programs
Hmpf. That is exactly what I did. Development and expert mode. I essentially installed all development libs, headers, etc. The last time I tried to build kde source was with an early 2.1. It failed like the previous attempt with 2.0.1. I suppose I can try again with a more recent src.rpm set. I didn't relocate anything. The only additions to my system beyond what 7.2 provides are some specialized tk/tcl devel libs for a few specialized scientific apps. This should in no way affect kde though. On Sunday 04 February 2001 09:33, Christopher Molnar wrote: No, my systems is a standard 7.2 install. I install using Development and Expert mode. Do not install any additional packages. Then I upgrade egcs and xinitscripts (or something like that) to the latest and build. I do not do anything different. I do not use cooker as I try to stay a little more compatible with the rest of everyone who is using my rpm's. [...] -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
Re: [expert] Cooker HOWTO?
On Sat, 03 Feb 2001, Collins Richey wrote an sent six of the same: Is there a HOWTO on setting up a Cooker system? I've looked at the Cooker FAQ, but this doesnt' seem to be covered. I've got a couple of spare linux partitions on my hard drive, and I would love to experiment. -- Thanks, Collins Richey Denver area
[expert] Configuring 7.2 for DSL via network card and DSL modem
Folks, Can someone help me with configuring my pc for dsl (which,as always, worked dandy in the days of Windows98)? I've got a Lynksys EtherFast card connected to an Efficient Networks Inc. SpeedStream DSL modem. The tuplip.o driver for Linksys is installed (via an RPM of updated drivers). I've tried using Mandrake 7.2's configuration utility, but the driver fails to show up on the driver list. I've then gone into the Linuxconfig utility and found I could find and specify the tulip driver, only to get lost in the maze of choices on other settings. I have basic stats from my ISP, such as DNS numbers, gateways, subnet masks, and the like (supposedly I'm to set the the ISP's IP address to "dynamic," a setting I don't find in Mandrake). In addition, the ISP told me the NIC also has an IP and gateway and gave me those numbers. Again, no indication in either configuration utility as to where NIC's information goes. So: 1. Is there a file I can alter that will allow tulip to show up in the PPPOE configuration utility? And should that be enough to round out the process when I try to use the utility again? 2. What the heck should I do with the NIC IP number and gateway? 3. Is there a file I can use to enter configuration information without having to puzzle through the utilities? Thanks for your patience! Best regards, Pete Spotts (Feel free to answer off line, of you prefer.)
[expert] Upgraded CUP, now system can't find CUP server
Folks, Before upgrading CUP, my printer was working just fine. After upgrading CUP and QTCUP via the Mandrake update utility, my system no longer can find my CUP server. On bootup, at the CUP entry I get execvp:no such directory or file (although it appears when I execute a "locate" from terminal). When I try to configure my printer through Mandrake's configuration utility, it complains about not being able to find the CUP server. I've compared configuration settings with those on another machine on which I've loaded M72, and they look the same. I thought of installing PrintPro, but fuhggitaboutit. The installation ran afoul of too many CUP dependencies and wouldn't install. Obviously, something has changed, perhaps in a configuration file, that is misdirecting something else, but beats me what... Any thoughts? Thanks, Pete Spotts
Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
Well said Chris. I'm with you 100%. Keep the faith...you're doing a great job. Since following your directions to the letter I no longer have any troubles with my machine and I thank you. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Christopher Molnar wrote: Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 11:46:18 -0500 From: Christopher Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function #1 - the unsupported are not built with cooker. I am starting to suspect this is the problem with a lot of the problems. They are also not built for cooker. #2 - people do not follow directions. Every person who has followed the directions step by step, not tried to rebuild part of the systems, move menus, etc has not had any problems. There are also a lot of people who are mixing Cooker and 7.2 still, after repeated explanations. #3 - you say there is not any real difference between the Unsupported and the cooker version, actually there is. First, I do not build the unsupported version on Mandrake machines. I build on a personal laptop, wherever in the world I happen to be traveling. For example, today I am Berkeley, CA. This means that Mandrake does not know what is on my machine so they can not support the RPMs. Further, I have removed a LARGE number of patches and am using way more current CVS code for all of my RPM's than you will find in cooker. It is not the same SRPM that has been rebuilt. I check out changes as the build script runs. I do not advise going to the new glibc, I differ in the opinion of my employers with this (ok, I am now going to get shot) I think that the developers of gcc have a reason for advising us not to use the latest development version in a distro. The KDE team has said NOT to use the new version to compile kde in a distro, again so I do not. You mention attitude and tone. I am not paid to make these RPM's, I am not paid to consistantly fix peoples broken systems. I think you would probably get a little tired of 100 emails saying that I caused their systems to die after I have seen a lot of other people install by following the directions, which most people never read. In retrospect I should never have asked for and encouraged the unsupported directory, as I think it is causing more problems than it is worth. -Chris On Sunday 04 February 2001 11:21, you wrote: "They" full well know what unsupported means. It is OFFICIALLY not supported. Why? Is it because there is any REAL difference between the SUPPORTED version (in OFFICIAL cooker) and the "unsupported" versions for 7.2? NO. No difference. The only real difference is the former is built from glibc2.2 while the latter is built with glibc2.1. Big deal. For all PRACTICAL purposes, they are identical. This is proven true by the fact that if you download the straight source from KDE rather than from Mandrake sources, it does not say you MUST use glibc2.2. Many other distros that are making use of the latest KDE are NOT using glibc2.2 (yet). Get off your snide, sarcastic platform. Complaint or criticism IS valid, regardless. How would you EVER know of any problem if no one did this? As for tone, when repeated and repeated questions or posts of problems concerning what should be a VERY simple problem and answer go unanswered repeatedly, then I would say tone has every right to change. Get over it. On Sunday 04 February 2001 05:41, Mark Weaver wrote: Chris, Maybe you should change the name of "unsupported" to "bleeding-edge". They might get the idea then, do ya think? :)
Re: [expert] I was lucky I guess-- was: kcontrol STILL doesn't function
On Sunday 04 February 2001 13:25, Vic wrote: I am a very literal person, concerning the don't read this file, so I read the readme and not the other one and I came out ok, The "Dont_read_this file was a dupe of the readme for those people who never read readme's :-) I figured telling them to readme didn't work so maybe telling them not to read it would make them read it. Dind't work. just a couple of hiccups that a couple of very cool people on here --oops sorry meant the newbie list, then again they could have been from here too--sorry need my morning apple juice I guess, anyway just a couple of hiccups to fix and that is as far as I am going. Bug handeleer has now been improved. I am trying to hold off making new rpm's until 2.1 final now. It's a week away and I really do not want to waste the bandwidth. -Chris
Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
First, appologies to al, because I am leaving the origional message and just putting my comments into it. Praedor, please look for my notes all the way to the bottom. I just thought of something. On Sunday 04 February 2001 13:39, you wrote: I will (somewhat) apologize for my previous tone and chalk it up to a set of bad days above and beyond kcontrol problems. From here: On Sunday 04 February 2001 09:46, Christopher Molnar wrote: #1 - the unsupported are not built with cooker. I am starting to suspect this is the problem with a lot of the problems. They are also not built for cooker. Are you saying that the packages you are producing (I am not unappreciative, really) should be built with cooker? Do you mean they have cooker-specific dependencies? If so, the ONLY problem I have seen of any real consequence is the kcontrol problem. NO!! It doesn't matter what they are built on, but what they are built on must = what they are installed on. Don't mix cooker with 7.2. #2 - people do not follow directions. Every person who has followed the directions step by step, not tried to rebuild part of the systems, move menus, etc has not had any problems. There are also a lot of people who are mixing Cooker and 7.2 still, after repeated explanations. I have not mixed Cooker with 7.2. I install no rpms from cooker (most of which would be impossible due to the glibc differences). I did nothing (absolutely nothing) with my menus. Really. No menudrake stuff. You also indicated in a previous post that if we have done anything to, or added anything to our .kde/share/applnk directory, that would be trouble. I did not do this. Besides that, would not totally deleting .kde/ from one's home directory, which means EVERYTHING within it including share/applnk/ and any user-created additions within it, and then restarting and allowing kde to setup one's home with the default settings/setup that it always installs upon running kde for the first time, correct the problem? I also did nothing to /usr/share/applnk or anything within it. Running kbuildsycoca made the problem worse for me rather than correcting it. Have you sen the descriptiions of the bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or entered a bug at http://bugs.kde.org? What you describing goes way past a packaging bug and goes to a coding issue. Please let the kde team know about it. #3 - you say there is not any real difference between the Unsupported and the cooker version, actually there is. First, I do not build the unsupported version on Mandrake machines. I build on a personal laptop, wherever in the world I happen to be traveling. For example, today I am Berkeley, CA. This means that Mandrake does not know what is on my machine so they can not support the RPMs. What linux version do you run on your laptop then, if not Mandrake? I was assuming it would be one of the Mandrakes. If it isn't, then what packages do you have installed that specifically concern building kde source? Also, are you creating mdk rpms de novo from tarballs or are you using src.rpms? I run a pure Mandrake 7.2 install. But it is not controlled by Mandrake. I make it a personal thing to make it stay clean, but others may not be as "anal" about this as I am. Further, I have removed a LARGE number of patches and am using way more current CVS code for all of my RPM's than you will find in cooker. It is not the same SRPM that has been rebuilt. I check out changes as the build script runs. OK. You mention attitude and tone. I am not paid to make these RPM's, I am not paid to consistantly fix peoples broken systems. I think you would probably get a little tired of 100 emails saying that I caused their systems to die after I have seen a lot of other people install by following the directions, which most people never read. As I have mentioned. I did none of the things that were suggested as causes for the kcontrol problem (menudrake, changes to my applnk directory). I also tried the suggested fixes: copy /usr/share/applnk to my .kde/share/applnk. In addition, I was upgrading from kde 2.1 to 2.1, not from 2.0 to 2.1. There was a definite, if subtle, change in the whole thing somewhere between 0112 and 0118 that resulted in this problem. All was well with kcontrol (there were other problems like sigsevs, etc, in other apps which is what drove the desire to upgrade to the next release of the 2.1 beta - because these problems were fixed). Beyond that, it isn't kde exactly, but I was also hoping to find a functional version of kword, which gets built off each subsequent change in qt2 and kde. Alas, I have given up on kword for now and have gone with lyx (klyx is really broken). As nice as kword COULD be, it is merely another version of a standard linux wordprocessor that has no bibliography/citation capability. Only lyx offers this ability via bibtex, pybliographic (or sixpack). This is neither
Re: [expert] Problem compiling kde2 programs
In PRIVATE mail please send me the output of a "set" command for the user you are compiling as. I want to see something. Also, please drop the "expert" on the subject line for that message so my filters leave it in my inbox. -Chris On Sunday 04 February 2001 13:44, Praedor Tempus wrote: Hmpf. That is exactly what I did. Development and expert mode. I essentially installed all development libs, headers, etc. The last time I tried to build kde source was with an early 2.1. It failed like the previous attempt with 2.0.1. I suppose I can try again with a more recent src.rpm set. I didn't relocate anything. The only additions to my system beyond what 7.2 provides are some specialized tk/tcl devel libs for a few specialized scientific apps. This should in no way affect kde though. On Sunday 04 February 2001 09:33, Christopher Molnar wrote: No, my systems is a standard 7.2 install. I install using Development and Expert mode. Do not install any additional packages. Then I upgrade egcs and xinitscripts (or something like that) to the latest and build. I do not do anything different. I do not use cooker as I try to stay a little more compatible with the rest of everyone who is using my rpm's. [...]
Re: [Fwd: [expert] Questions about Mandrake Update]
On Saturday 03 February 2001 22:22, Craig Woods wrote: Richey, You are right on about the new updates, especially the cups 1.1.6-2.1mdk rpm. Force that one and you may find that your printing is broken. Yep, totally broken. You can't even find lpr now! Any ideas how to fix this. It really sucks that Mandrake would post a broken rpm like this on the "normal" updates. Maybe you would be kind enough to post this email to the expert list. Some questions about Mandrake Update 1. Has anyone every actually tested the "Normal Updates"? The reason I ask is that I have a 7.2 system with no maintenance other than "Normal Updates" up to a few days ago, and I get dependancy errors trying to install some of the latest updates. cups 1.1.6-2.1mdk produces a whole string of dependancies and invites one to force/quit. the xemacs 21.1.14-1.1mdk series chugs away for a long time, then reports a dependancy error in some man file and quits without offering the force/quit option. 2. There are quite a few updates for KDE. Can these really be installed from an active KDE, or will they break my system? -- Thanks, Collins Richey Denver area
Re: [expert] I was lucky I guess-- was: kcontrol STILL doesn't function
On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:43:38 -0500, Christopher Molnar said: I had a similar problem with Kcontrol being empty. But mine was with KDE 2.0. stock, from a L-M 7.2 install Logout - login did not fix it. Update-menus did not fix it. Logout - restart X - login did not fix it. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace - login did not fix it. Logout- shutdown - turn off computer - turn on computer - login in DID fix it. Why? A very good question. Answer? I have no idea. BTW Chris, thanks for the KDE updates. On Sunday 04 February 2001 13:25, Vic wrote: I am a very literal person, concerning the don't read this file, so I read the readme and not the other one and I came out ok, The "Dont_read_this file was a dupe of the readme for those people who never read readme's :-) I figured telling them to readme didn't work so maybe telling them not to read it would make them read it. Dind't work. just a couple of hiccups that a couple of very cool people on here --oops sorry meant the newbie list, then again they could have been from here too--sorry need my morning apple juice I guess, anyway just a couple of hiccups to fix and that is as far as I am going. Bug handeleer has now been improved. I am trying to hold off making new rpm's until 2.1 final now. It's a week away and I really do not want to waste the bandwidth. -Chris -- David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] I was lucky I guess-- was: kcontrol STILL doesn't function
David, you make a very good point! I really do not believe in rebooting Linux machines all the time, but when a person updates so many packages, such as all of kde at one time, a power down and back up may be a good idea. The dcop server, which is used by kbuildsycoca is network transparent thus uses tcp/ip ports. There is a fix in the kde 2.1 and 2.0.1 rpm's that fixes a problem with dcop. You may have found the issue for some people. Dcop may not restart until you power down and restart, I think it had a time-out delay or something. To late for me to test and besides I am 3000 miles away from my test machines. -Chris On Monday 05 February 2001 15:32, David Boles wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:43:38 -0500, Christopher Molnar said: I had a similar problem with Kcontrol being empty. But mine was with KDE 2.0. stock, from a L-M 7.2 install Logout - login did not fix it. Update-menus did not fix it. Logout - restart X - login did not fix it. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace - login did not fix it. Logout- shutdown - turn off computer - turn on computer - login in DID fix it. Why? A very good question. Answer? I have no idea. BTW Chris, thanks for the KDE updates. On Sunday 04 February 2001 13:25, Vic wrote: I am a very literal person, concerning the don't read this file, so I read the readme and not the other one and I came out ok, The "Dont_read_this file was a dupe of the readme for those people who never read readme's :-) I figured telling them to readme didn't work so maybe telling them not to read it would make them read it. Dind't work. just a couple of hiccups that a couple of very cool people on here --oops sorry meant the newbie list, then again they could have been from here too--sorry need my morning apple juice I guess, anyway just a couple of hiccups to fix and that is as far as I am going. Bug handeleer has now been improved. I am trying to hold off making new rpm's until 2.1 final now. It's a week away and I really do not want to waste the bandwidth. -Chris
Re: [expert] I was lucky I guess-- was: kcontrol STILL doesn't function
I wonder if they update the iso images along with everyhing or do they wait until it is final? On Monday 05 February 2001 02:32 pm, so spoke David Boles: On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:43:38 -0500, Christopher Molnar said: I had a similar problem with Kcontrol being empty. But mine was with KDE 2.0. stock, from a L-M 7.2 install Logout - login did not fix it. Update-menus did not fix it. Logout - restart X - login did not fix it. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace - login did not fix it. Logout- shutdown - turn off computer - turn on computer - login in DID fix it. Why? A very good question. Answer? I have no idea. BTW Chris, thanks for the KDE updates. On Sunday 04 February 2001 13:25, Vic wrote: I am a very literal person, concerning the don't read this file, so I read the readme and not the other one and I came out ok, The "Dont_read_this file was a dupe of the readme for those people who never read readme's :-) I figured telling them to readme didn't work so maybe telling them not to read it would make them read it. Dind't work. just a couple of hiccups that a couple of very cool people on here --oops sorry meant the newbie list, then again they could have been from here too--sorry need my morning apple juice I guess, anyway just a couple of hiccups to fix and that is as far as I am going. Bug handeleer has now been improved. I am trying to hold off making new rpm's until 2.1 final now. It's a week away and I really do not want to waste the bandwidth. -Chris
[expert] how to use multiple glbc's????
I am trying to install IBM's data visualisation package on 7.2 It requires libcdb.so.6 or better. Several existing packages require libcdb.so.3 according to the rpm dependency check when I tried to install glibc-2.2.1-6mdk.i586.rpm. Can someone advise on how to manage these requirements? Is there a way of concurrently having multiple versions of glibc installed, or what is the best approach? adTHANKSvance __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
[expert] LINUX SOFTWARE HYBERNATION
does anyone know if there is anyway to get software hybernation for linux?. it someone know anything about this please send me an e-mail -- Dvoid of brun406
Re: [expert] rpm-3.0 to rpm-4.0 catch 22
Bill Piety wrote: On 04 Feb 2001 05:04:47 +, Richard -Gilligan- Uschold wrote: > Bill Piety wrote: > ... > > I did most of this from kpackage, except the --rebuilddb, and where noted. > Here's what I did: > > ignore: rpm-3.0.3-5x.i386.rpm kpackage doesn't display, older than 3.0.3-43mdk > ignore: rpm-3.0.3-6x.i386.rpm kpackage doesn't display, older than 3.0.3-43mdk > uninstall: rpm-devel-3.0.3-43mdk.i586.rpm > no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.4-4x.i386.rpm > rpm --rebuilddb > no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.4-5x.i386.rpm > rpm --rebuilddb > rpm-3.0.4-6x.i386.rpm requires libbz2.so.0 in bzip2-0.9.5d-2.i386.rpm this is older > than my current: bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk and there are several packages that require this, > also, there are several conflicting files between the two versions, although, > bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk does not have libbz2.so.0, so from the command line: > rpm -i --force bzip2-0.9.5d-2.i386.rpm > rpm -i --force bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk.i586.rpm > rpm --rebuilddb > no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.4-6x.i386.rpm > rpm --rebuilddb > no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.5-27mdk.i586.rpm > rpm --rebuilddb > no dependencies, so update: rpm-devel-3.0.5-27mdk.i586.rpm > > So, now I'm back to where I was two months ago, except I have a few old bzip2-0.9.5d > libraries that are not overwritten by bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk > > After each upgrade step of rpm, I tried to view Guppi-0.35.2-1.i586.rpm in kpackage and I > got the exact same error every time, up through and including the final 3.0.5-27mdk. > Error: > "only packages with major numbers =3 are supported by this version of RPM" > > So, this did no good. > > On the other hand, from the command line: > rpm -U --test Guppi-0.35.2-1.i586.rpm > Does give a bunch of failed dependencies! kpackage never got that far. kpackage never > listed any dependencies and never listed any of the files included in the package. > Perhaps this is a kpackage problem? > > > -- > > Gilligan | __o .oooO > I don't use kpackage, so I can't answer that. I did all of my rpm upgrades from a term window. However, I did not upgrade bzip2 (which I advised against) - there were too many dependency issues involved. I did install libbzip2_1-1.0.1-7mdk which fulfilled the dependency issue with rpm. I also have a rule - if I have to force a pkg I have to be prepared for the worst, sooner or later. From everything I've seen on the newsgroups rpm 3.0.5-27 is the version that you need. If you're still getting error msgs then there's a collateral problem. libbzip2_1 provides libbz2.so.1 and libbz2.so.1.0.1 Get further input on your bzip2 upgrade. If it were my system I'd probably try restore my original bzip2. I forgot your note about bzip2 when I upgraded, but I have since restored the original bzip2 package I had. The dependancy errors I was getting are also caused by kpackage, and are not issued when I use rpm from the command line. dependancy errors; rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1rint11 rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) = 3.0.4-1 I was going to upgrade my kpackage, but I have the latest version available for KDE 1.1.x. While I didn't actually solve the problem, I have isolated it and I have a solid workaround. Thanks for your assistance. -- Gilligan | __o .oooO /| _ \,_ ( ) /p|\ (_)/ (_) \ ( Oooo. / | \ \_) ( ) ) / [EMAIL PROTECTED] (_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Upgraded CUP, now system can't find CUP server
On Sunday 04 February 2001 14:42, David G. Grier wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Peter Spotts wrote: Folks, Before upgrading CUP, my printer was working just fine. After upgrading CUP and QTCUP via the Mandrake update utility, my system no longer can find my CUP server. [snip] Mandrake Update doesn't automatically download the new and necessary cups-common-1.1.6-2.1mdk.i586.rpm libcups1-1.1.6-2.1mdk.i586.rpm and the nice, but not necessary libcups-devel-1.1.6-2.1mdk.i586.rpm You'll have to ftp over to an update mirror and get these by hand, install them with rpm -Uvh libcups* cups-common* and then get it working with service cups restart Update doesn't do this automatically because they're new files and so not already on your system (and hence not recognized as being desirable). Sounds like an "opportunity" for the Mandrake folks. Why doesn't (can't) Mandrake Update recognize this situation and drag in the necessary supporting rpms. Still better, why can't the developers actually try the rpms on a real live 7.2 system and thus avoid the problem for the unsuspecting masses? -- Collins Richey Denver Area
Re: [expert] rpm-3.0 to rpm-4.0 catch 22
On 04 Feb 2001 21:46:32 +, Richard -Gilligan- Uschold wrote: Bill Piety wrote: On 04 Feb 2001 05:04:47 +, Richard -Gilligan- Uschold wrote: Bill Piety wrote: ... I did most of this from kpackage, except the --rebuilddb, and where noted. Here's what I did: ignore: rpm-3.0.3-5x.i386.rpmkpackage doesn't display, older than 3.0.3-43mdk ignore: rpm-3.0.3-6x.i386.rpmkpackage doesn't display, older than 3.0.3-43mdk uninstall: rpm-devel-3.0.3-43mdk.i586.rpm no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.4-4x.i386.rpm rpm --rebuilddb no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.4-5x.i386.rpm rpm --rebuilddb rpm-3.0.4-6x.i386.rpm requires libbz2.so.0 in bzip2-0.9.5d-2.i386.rpm this is older than my current: bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk and there are several packages that require this, also, there are several conflicting files between the two versions, although, bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk does not have libbz2.so.0, so from the command line: rpm -i --force bzip2-0.9.5d-2.i386.rpm rpm -i --force bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk.i586.rpm rpm --rebuilddb no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.4-6x.i386.rpm rpm --rebuilddb no dependencies, so update: rpm-3.0.5-27mdk.i586.rpm rpm --rebuilddb no dependencies, so update: rpm-devel-3.0.5-27mdk.i586.rpm So, now I'm back to where I was two months ago, except I have a few old bzip2-0.9.5d libraries that are not overwritten by bzip2-1.0.1-6mdk After each upgrade step of rpm, I tried to view Guppi-0.35.2-1.i586.rpm in kpackage and I got the exact same error every time, up through and including the final 3.0.5-27mdk. Error: "only packages with major numbers =3 are supported by this version of RPM" So, this did no good. On the other hand, from the command line: rpm -U --test Guppi-0.35.2-1.i586.rpm Does give a bunch of failed dependencies! kpackage never got that far. kpackage never listed any dependencies and never listed any of the files included in the package. Perhaps this is a kpackage problem? -- Gilligan|__o .oooO I don't use kpackage, so I can't answer that. I did all of my rpm upgrades from a term window. However, I did not upgrade bzip2 (which I advised against) - there were too many dependency issues involved. I did install libbzip2_1-1.0.1-7mdk which fulfilled the dependency issue with rpm. I also have a rule - if I have to force a pkg I have to be prepared for the worst, sooner or later. From everything I've seen on the newsgroups rpm 3.0.5-27 is the version that you need. If you're still getting error msgs then there's a collateral problem. libbzip2_1 provides libbz2.so.1 and libbz2.so.1.0.1 Get further input on your bzip2 upgrade. If it were my system I'd probably try restore my original bzip2. I forgot your note about bzip2 when I upgraded, but I have since restored the original bzip2 package I had. The dependancy errors I was getting are also caused by kpackage, and are not issued when I use rpm from the command line. dependancy errors; rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) = 4.0-1rint11 rpmlib(CompressedFileNames)= 3.0.4-1 I was going to upgrade my kpackage, but I have the latest version available for KDE 1.1.x. While I didn't actually solve the problem, I have isolated it and I have a solid workaround. Thanks for your assistance. -- Gilligan|__o .oooO Sure hope all is OK with rpm - that's a b___ of a pkg to have a problem with. Tho I'm sure you did, don't forget the rebuilddb. (Aside: I, too, love to sail)
[expert] Linux Virtual memory
Hi all, I have a problem with an application which may be causing in inordinate amount of buffer memory to be allocated. The scenario is this: I am running Linux Mandrake 7.1 with a 2.2.16 kernel pared down to eliminate excess baggage, and using a later version of the scsi generic device driver designed for 2.2 kernels -- version 3.0.13 from http://www.torque.net/sg/ When the machine is first booted up, top or free shows about 4Mb of buffers. After the application has run for about an hour, the amount of memory used by buffers is 135 Mb. The application writes many files in the course of its execution. Incoming and outgoing messages are written to binary files, one per message, and the files are closed immediately upon return from the write. The other strange thing about this scenario, is that when the machine runs out of memory, only 512 Kb of swap has been used, despite the fact that there is 768 Mb. of swap available. It would appear that the large amount of space allocated to buffers is not needed, and that some tuning parameter could cause these buffers to be freed, thus preventing the machine from running out of space. The application's memory usage grows very little, growing from about 35 Mb. at startup, to about 38 Mb. an hour later. The only other large user of memory is X, which is using about 42 Mb. Does anyone have any ideas as to what I need to do to remedy this situation? Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.
Re: [expert] Linux Equivalent To WinMX? - (file sharing via Napsterservers)
Why the heck would you want to confuse people by sharing non-mp3 files via a network whose only purpose is to share mp3's? Use gnutella or scour, for god's sake. At least they're intended for random filesharing. Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:20135549 Belgiumtel:++3289856533 cellular: ++32496737018 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org 1010011010 : Binary of the Beast On Feb 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a Linux Equivalent to WinMX? WinMX allows sharing of any file formats via napster servers. You might have noticed some non-mp3 files while searching with Gnapster or Knapster. Unfortunately, WinMX is only for Windows. Http://www.winmx.com Seve
Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
On Sunday 04 February 2001 12:51, Christopher Molnar wrote: First, appologies to al, because I am leaving the origional message and just putting my comments into it. Praedor, please look for my notes all the way to the bottom. I just thought of something. [...] As for my system. It is NOT a pure 7.2 system, but it has not a single cooker package on it and not a single beta set of packages on it EXCEPT for kde2.1. XFree86 is the standard, stable, latest version built from src.rpm. The kernel is not a bizarro kernel of my own creation, it is a stable Mandrake 2.2.17 kernel. My glibc is the latest Mandrake-supported version brought on my MandrakeUpdate for 7.2. Nothing at the heart of my system is beta or Cooker (or Rawhide for that matter). Hey, when you where doing your update cd, did you have any problems? Any error messages? Please think carefully, did anything strange happen. I also should have asked, did you install your origional 7.2 with Expert, novice, or Custom and is it a Workstation, Developer, or Server install. Also, where did you buy the boxed set? OK, this may be a source of problem... I had Mandrake 7.1. An IT guy at my university had Mandrake 7.2 (I don't know where he got it - a software store or off the net) and he burned me copies of the two CDs. I installed from that on both my laptop and desktop. On both I did an Expert install of a developer type. On my desktop, harddrive space is not an issue so I installed EVERYTHING vis a vis development libs. On the laptop, same thing but space is a premium so I only installed the minimum devel libs and tools that I thought I could conceivably use. I honestly do not recall experiencing any problems or glitches during the installs. After installing I did the MandrakeUpdate thing. I did it again just a couple days ago to bring glibc2.1 up to the latest update versions. XFree86-4.0.2 was downloaded as source and built myself and works fine. -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
RE: [expert] Virus scanning via postfix
you're best bet is to search deja news for [EMAIL PROTECTED] i'm on this list, and there is much discussion in the archives. mg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Kenworthy Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 8:33 AM To: Linux-Mandrake - Expert Subject: [expert] Virus scanning via postfix Hi, has anyone been able to get the Mandrake configured postix in 7.2 to virus scan. In particular I am looking at using anomy, then eventally using that to call AVP. I had go at this some months ago and failed, so now I am looking for some hints as to the best way to go about this. Searching the postfix site/anomy/web hasnt helped much. The stup basicly collects mail from one ISP for one user. All other members of the family then access this via imap/netscape which does the actual filtering into appropriate mailboxes. BillK
Re: [Fwd: [expert] Questions about Mandrake Update]
On a chance, try rpm --rebuild (as root) and then run MandrakeUpdate, from an xterm. Check for error messages. MandrakeUpdate does occaisionallly screw up the rpm database when the downloads etc glitch. I also noted that some time after the cups update, I got a message in /var/log/messages saying lpd was not running and it was starting. I have just done a "ps aux|grep lpd" and it is not running, but prints ok. In my case it was coz I tried to reconfigure cups to let a 7.1 machine connect to the printer - eventually killed everting. An install of the configuration files from a backup I made after install fixed it. You may have to manually delete the config files and reinstall the rpm's to sort it out - no amount of manual configuration would work. Also after replacing the config files, printing from the 7.1 machine worked! There are also instructions on MUO to remove cups and go back to lpd, which may save al ot of time and heartache. BillK * the kde updates worked fine for me, no changes noticed afterwards. Collins Richey wrote: On Saturday 03 February 2001 22:22, Craig Woods wrote: Richey, You are right on about the new updates, especially the cups 1.1.6-2.1mdk rpm. Force that one and you may find that your printing is broken. Yep, totally broken. You can't even find lpr now! Any ideas how to fix this. It really sucks that Mandrake would post a broken rpm like this on the "normal" updates.
[expert] Re: Problem compiling kde2 programs
OK, I have removed the attached file and am sending the reply back to the list as well so that others may find this helpful in the future. I think I found your problem. QTDIR is not set. KDE will not compile without this path. You need to set QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt2 I would probably add the following to my .bashrc (at the very end) export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt2 log out of all your logged in sessions and try again. On Sunday 04 February 2001 17:32, Praedor Tempus wrote: On Sunday 04 February 2001 13:04, Christopher Molnar wrote: In PRIVATE mail please send me the output of a "set" command for the user you are compiling as. I want to see something. Also, please drop the "expert" on the subject line for that message so my filters leave it in my inbox. Hello. Again, I apologize for my previous tone and I really do appreciate the work you do. That said, attached is the output of "set" for user praedor. I also have had no success if I go superuser and try to build. It has been a bit since I last tried to build kde src rpms. It is conceivable that the problem is no longer existent... I'll try one src.rpm and see what transpires.
Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
See my nexty message. I think your problem is in QTDIR not being set. It's needed to compile kde apps. Did you keep your old home dir, or totally reformat your system? Anyways, see if this helps. -Chris
[expert] Weird behaviour with a Hyundai monitor
I installed mdk 7.2 at a friends computer but couldn't seem to get X up and running, I had set the correct Horisontal and vertical refresh rates (I know they're correct 'cause I borrowed the monitor for a while and used it at my computer with mdk 7.2 on it). I took the machine home, used another monitor and got the nvidia drivers installed and X/kde up and running. Everything worked smoothly. When I got back to his place and pluged in his monitor X wouldn't start, more to it the computer seems to freeze when trying to do so. The monitor changes to the correct resolution and refresh rates (found with the on-screen-display of the monitor), but it displays a black screen with a smaaall green line at the top left corner. The system refuses to take any input from both the keyboard and the mouse, and I have to reboot the machine (can't even turn the numlock on and off). The monitor is a Hyundai P910 (19") and the display adapter is a RIVA ULTRA TNT2. Everything seems to be correct in the XF86Config-4 file and I checked to see that the X symlink points to 4.0.1 and not 3.3.6. Ps. the startx script doesn't do anything at all, just sits there. I have to start the server either with XFree86 or xinit. Pps. tried with the nv driver instead of nvidia, but it still gives me the same fault, also tried with the vga driver and a resolution of 800x600 in 8bit. -- \ Christian A Strmmen / \ Number1/NumeroUno @ Undernet - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Web: www.realityx.net - Cell: +47 911 43 948 / Live your life by your dreams, not by the limits of reality...
Re: [expert] I am not asked which CD's I have in 7.2 with expertinstallation!
On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 05:38:50PM +0100, Alen Salamun wrote: Hi! I didn't, and I installed expert installation over 10 times now. Always the same. Like I have "jed" selected, but the package is not installed (since it is on CD 2) and I am never asked for CD 2! Bye, Alen I have only installed 7.2 two or three times, but to the best of my knowledge, the installer asked which cd's I had each time. These were expert installs using iso's downloaded from mirror sites soon after 7.2 was initially released. -- Chris and Yoshiko Spackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] (English) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Japanese) www.openhistory.org "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. My life is my own." -The Prisoner
[expert] Supermount madness...please help
I have a rather strange problem with supermount. Here's what happened. Supermount seemed to be working find for both of my installed CD drives: /dev/hdc is a Pioneer DVD 105S and /dev/hdd is an HP CDRW drive. I am pretty sure the last time I put a CD into either drive, it supermounted just fine. Today I was mucking with compiling the 2.4.1 kernel; after doing the compile and installing it into grub, I rebooted into the 2.4.1 kernel. Unfortunately, it didn't work for the rather dumb reason of not being able to find my mouse! Since I default to RL 5 with kdm running, and with no mouse, I wasn't able to reboot or get anywhere, so finally I was forced to power down. I then rebooted into 2.2.18-mdk and all looked ok...until: I was thinking, after rebooting, that before I reconfigure the kernel, I really should be compiling and such without being root, and then just su when it was time to copy everything to /boot. I figured the easiest way to do this is to just rm -rf /usr/src/linux-2.4.1, then copy the tarred source off the CD that I had burned it to before, untar, and do everything as my normal user self. So I did the rm, and then popped the CD back into the drive...and it did not supermount. I looked at fstab, and found that all of the supermount entries were GONE. The timestamp on the file indicated it was edited today, but I know I didn't touch it. Strange. So I tried "supermount -i enable" and the appropriate supermount entries were added to fstab, but when I put CD's into the drives, I find that they still don't supermount, and I cannot figure out why. As an interesting aside, I found that when I manually tried to mount the cd's, I could not unless I was root, but editing fstab by hand and adding the "user" option fixed that. Still no supermount, though. Anyone with any ideas? Here is my fstab: (note that the entries for the automounted items read, for instance, "mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom" and the actual device is specified as an option (dev=/dev/cdrom). I assume this is correct for supermounted devices... Note also that the proper symlinks (/dev/cdrom-/dev/hdc and /dev/cdrom2-/dev/scd0) are in place. cat /etc/fstab: /dev/hda5 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda7 /home ext2 defaults 1 2 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom,ro,user,nosuid,noauto,nodev,exec 0 0 /mnt/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom2 supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom2,ro,user,nosuid,noauto,nodev,exec 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0,nosuid,noauto,nodev,unhide 0 0 /dev/hda2 /mnt/windowsfs=vfat,umask=0,nosuid,nodev,exec 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda9 /tmp ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda8 /usr ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda10 /var ext2 defaults 1 2 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0
[expert] Kernel source- directory ownership
I am working on compiling the 2.4.1 source. The director /usr/src is root owner and root group, and only root has write access to this directory. I am thinking about changing the group to something like "kernel" (a new group I would define) and giving group full access, and then putting my regular user account into that group, so I can compile the kernel without becoming root. Can anyone see a downside to that? Neal
[expert] how to back up root?
Hi, I 'm using 3 mount points, on 3 separate partitions, for my mandrake 7.2 instal.. /dev/hda5 / /dev/hda7 /usr /dev/hda8 /home I want to back up everything on /, format it then restore. I don't want to do an image copy however, because there's some kind of Inode problem in that partiton I think the format will fix. So, I just want to copy the files and direcotries under /, but I don't know how to do this since this would include special directories such as /dev /proc etc.. I assume cp -Rp isn't going to cut it. Anyone know how to do this? Thanks in advance :) __ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] I was lucky I guess-- was: kcontrol STILL doesn't function
I just tried it, and it didn't fix mine. But mine is a rather small inconvenience anyway, which is why I never mentioned it before. Only sound is blank, and then the first icon, virtual desktop, mouse behavior, and borders don't load the modules needed (so the error states). Most I can live without or had fixed the preferences prior to the upgrade (except of course the attacking icons :) from the taskbar which I'm beginning to get used to anyway). -s On Sunday 04 February 2001 08:38 pm, you wrote: David, you make a very good point! I really do not believe in rebooting Linux machines all the time, but when a person updates so many packages, such as all of kde at one time, a power down and back up may be a good idea. The dcop server, which is used by kbuildsycoca is network transparent thus uses tcp/ip ports. There is a fix in the kde 2.1 and 2.0.1 rpm's that fixes a problem with dcop. You may have found the issue for some people. Dcop may not restart until you power down and restart, I think it had a time-out delay or something. To late for me to test and besides I am 3000 miles away from my test machines. -Chris On Monday 05 February 2001 15:32, David Boles wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:43:38 -0500, Christopher Molnar said: I had a similar problem with Kcontrol being empty. But mine was with KDE 2.0. stock, from a L-M 7.2 install Logout - login did not fix it. Update-menus did not fix it. Logout - restart X - login did not fix it. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace - login did not fix it. Logout- shutdown - turn off computer - turn on computer - login in DID fix it. Why? A very good question. Answer? I have no idea. BTW Chris, thanks for the KDE updates. On Sunday 04 February 2001 13:25, Vic wrote: I am a very literal person, concerning the don't read this file, so I read the readme and not the other one and I came out ok, The "Dont_read_this file was a dupe of the readme for those people who never read readme's :-) I figured telling them to readme didn't work so maybe telling them not to read it would make them read it. Dind't work. just a couple of hiccups that a couple of very cool people on here --oops sorry meant the newbie list, then again they could have been from here too--sorry need my morning apple juice I guess, anyway just a couple of hiccups to fix and that is as far as I am going. Bug handeleer has now been improved. I am trying to hold off making new rpm's until 2.1 final now. It's a week away and I really do not want to waste the bandwidth. -Chris
[expert] Re: kcontrol STILL doesn't function
OK, now it makes sense. See why: [molnarc@cmhplap molnarc]$ rpm -q --whatprovides /usr/include/cdda_interface.h cdparanoia-devel-IIIa9.7-3mdk [molnarc@cmhplap molnarc]$ Did you have to do a --force or a --nodeps when you installed any package? anyways, you need cdparanoia and cdparanoia-devel. I will check the spec files. -Chris On Sunday 04 February 2001 21:31, you wrote: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:08:20 -0700 From: Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Christopher Molnar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, as I was expecting, kdebase didn't make it. I set qtdir, fix a broken symlink (broken by I have no idea) and then this: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -I/usr/lib/qt2/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O3 -DNDEBUG -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -Wnon-virtual-dtor -fno-builtin -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -Wp,-MD,.deps/audiocd.pp -c audiocd.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/audiocd.o audiocd.cpp:36: cdda_interface.h: No such file or directory audiocd.cpp:37: cdda_paranoia.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [audiocd.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdebase/kioslave/audiocd' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kdebase/kioslave' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 I have kde devel rpms installed (yours), the aRTs devel package and I have, as I described, all the development type libs, headers, etc installed (this is my desktop with LOTS of HDD space). Now this is the sort of thing that really throws me. I thought kde was essentially self-contained, requiring only qt. Apparently, it also requires outsider files and libs like cdparanoia (stuff I didn't install since I do not have a CD burner). On Sunday 04 February 2001 15:33, Christopher Molnar wrote: See my nexty message. I think your problem is in QTDIR not being set. It's needed to compile kde apps. Did you keep your old home dir, or totally reformat your system? Anyways, see if this helps. I kept my old home, except for .kderc and .kde/. The QTDIR setting didn't fix things. I have had to (re)create some symlinks for some reason. After setting QTDIR and trying kdebase, it died with not finding asm/errno.h. My /usr/include/asm symlink was broken, pointing to /usr/include/linux/asm, which itself was a broken symlink to /usr/i386-glibc20-linux/include/asm. Things like this pop up all the time and I do not know what the source of the problem is (or when it occured). As I write this, it appears that kdebase is building OK. I'll have to wait and see if it finds something else it doesn't like. Thank you. -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain. ---
[expert] Re:Can't compile kde programs
Thanks to all the help, but still doesn't work. Here's what I get even though QTDIR is "export"ed: checking for kde headers installed... conftest.C: In function `int main()': conftest.C:7: no method `KApplication::kde_htmldir' conftest.C:8: no method `KApplication::kde_appsdir' conftest.C:9: no method `KApplication::kde_icondir' conftest.C:10: no method `KApplication::kde_sounddir' conftest.C:11: no method `KApplication::kde_datadir' conftest.C:12: no method `KApplication::kde_localedir' conftest.C:13: no method `KApplication::kde_cgidir' conftest.C:14: no method `KApplication::kde_configdir' conftest.C:15: no method `KApplication::kde_mimedir' conftest.C:16: no method `KApplication::kde_toolbardir' conftest.C:17: no method `KApplication::kde_wallpaperdir' conftest.C:18: no method `KApplication::kde_bindir' conftest.C:19: no method `KApplication::kde_partsdir' configure: error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application! Check, if you installed the KDE header files correctly. Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.43731 (%build) -- "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
Re: [expert] MandrakeUpdate
On Sun Feb 04, 2001 at 12:12:45PM -0500, Sean Middleditch wrote: OK, for starts, I cannot for the life of me find a bug-submission method anywhere on the Linux-Mandrake web-page. Only the mandrakeexpert.com service and pay-for-support options. Is there a better place to post the following problem? https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/ Problem: MandrakeUpdate does not seem to deal with dependencies at all - for example, it offered cups 1.1.6 as an update to 1.1.4, but it didn't try to download the now needed libcups files (cups 1.1.4 didn't need libcups, so it wasn't installed). This made it impossible to update cups without manually downloading and installing libcups. For newbies, or just plain lazy people (like me at 4:00 am), this is a Bad Thing (tm). This isn't really a problem with MandrakeUpdate (well, there could be two schools of thought on this). The problem is that libcups wasn't previously installed. This is because the update was based off a version in unsupported which in turn was a 7.2 rebuild based off a cooker RPM, which has "libified" everything. This will be corrected tomorrow with "proper 7.2 packages" so this will not be an issue. Sorry to everyone whom this affected... my test machine had the unsupported RPMs installed (ie. libcups was already installed), so I didn't catch this myself. Also, I'm not subscribed to this list, it generates *way* too much traffic for me. If you have a response you'd like me to get, make sure you reply or CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD - Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org - MandrakeSoft, Inc. Security www.linux-mandrake.com Current Linux kernel 2.4.0-12mdk uptime: 3 days 23 hours 55 minutes.
[expert] Supermount
Hi, I stuck 2.4.1 in tonight and realized I had forgotten about patches for supermount. So in my search, I can no longer find the information on it. So my question is: Wasn't there a patch for kernel 2.4.1 that when applied gives it back it's supermount capabilities? And from where might one download it? Thanx, -s
Re: [expert] Upgraded CUP, now system can't find CUP server
On Sun Feb 04, 2001 at 03:05:04PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote: Sounds like an "opportunity" for the Mandrake folks. Why doesn't (can't) Mandrake Update recognize this situation and drag in the necessary supporting rpms. Still better, why can't the developers actually try the rpms on a real live 7.2 system and thus avoid the problem for the unsuspecting masses? We do but I tend to play a little bit, which affects things. =) I was running a bunch of the unsupported rpms, of which libcups was a part of so I did not notice this dependancy problem (on the wife's machine which runs 7.2+unsupported+updates, whereas my machine runs cooker). This was my mistake. I do think having MandrakeUpdate become a little more "apt-like" to do that would be a good idea, but I need to work with the current limitations of MU and have to do this better. Sorry folks! "Proper" packages will be updated tomorrow, but this then leaves people with a little "prep" work to do (ie. rpm -e libcups1(-devel) --nodeps) before upgrading to the new packages which will be done (and corrected) tomorrow. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD - Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org - MandrakeSoft, Inc. Security www.linux-mandrake.com Current Linux kernel 2.4.0-12mdk uptime: 3 days 23 hours 58 minutes.
[expert] KDE 2.1 and jdk
I d/l'ed the unsupported rpms from a ftp mirror site. In the readme it states that if you want java support d/l the jdk-sun rpm in the directory. However, there is no jdk-sun rpm. Can anyone help me out with this. Thanks! NeoFax
Re: [expert] how to back up root?
Tyrone wrote: So, I just want to copy the files and direcotries under /, but I don't know how to do this since this would include special directories such as /dev /proc etc.. Use recent versions of tar, which will save and restore the /dev directory correctly. Forget about /proc - it is recreated at every boot. But untar to a new partition to check everything out before committing. You can e2fsck your / partition if it is unmounted from another Linux partition or a tomsrtbt floppy. Perhaps simpler yet, as root make sure that the / partition is set to 0 1 in your /etc/fstab, use the tune2fs utility to change the max-mounts-count to 1 (tune2fs -c 1) and reboot. This will run e2fsck on / before mounting it. Or just wait for the next mount count to be reached. -- Regards, Ron. [AU]
Re: [expert] KDE 2.1 and jdk
It should be in the directory right above where the kde2.1b2s are. -s On Monday 05 February 2001 06:01 am, you wrote: I d/l'ed the unsupported rpms from a ftp mirror site. In the readme it states that if you want java support d/l the jdk-sun rpm in the directory. However, there is no jdk-sun rpm. Can anyone help me out with this. Thanks! NeoFax
RE: [expert] KDE 2.1 and jdk
Tried looking for it all over the ftp site to no avail. It might just be the site I tried. I will try another, possibly the site in Paris. -Original Message- From: s [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [expert] KDE 2.1 and jdk It should be in the directory right above where the kde2.1b2s are. -s On Monday 05 February 2001 06:01 am, you wrote: I d/l'ed the unsupported rpms from a ftp mirror site. In the readme it states that if you want java support d/l the jdk-sun rpm in the directory. However, there is no jdk-sun rpm. Can anyone help me out with this. Thanks! NeoFax
Re: [expert] KDE 2.1 and jdk
I can't get Konqueror work with SUN's java (mandrake rpm from unsuported). No java applets although Konqi says 'loading java applet'. Nothing happens. Any advice? I enabled everything in Konqi (java globaly, java scripts globaly, plugins etc.). Where do you point Konqi to search for java executable exactly? Regards, s wrote: It should be in the directory right above where the kde2.1b2s are. -s On Monday 05 February 2001 06:01 am, you wrote: I d/l'ed the unsupported rpms from a ftp mirror site. In the readme it states that if you want java support d/l the jdk-sun rpm in the directory. However, there is no jdk-sun rpm. Can anyone help me out with this. Thanks! NeoFax
