[expert] Re: KDE 3.1.3 for 9.1 : go or no-go ?
Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 06 September 2003 06:47 am, Stefano Pogliani wrote: Would it be ok now to migrate to KDE 3.1.3 for MDK 9.1 or is it still unstable ? In case of yes, which is the most stable source : TexStar or the Mdk Club ? I am using Texstar's packages and they work great. Unfortunately, I think the qa on them is better than those packages available from Club. And where do I get these packages? -- Alex Fisher OpenOffice.org Marketing Project Community Contact, Australia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.3 for 9.1 : go or no-go ?
Praedor Tempus wrote: Don't know if it's just me but...I installed the the Club 3.1.3 rpms on my desktop, and the texstar rpms on my laptop. The texstar KDE 3.1.3 system is gawd-awful slow on my laptop, much slower than the original KDE that came with 9.1, at least with regards to initial startup. Takes a LNG time for my desktop to finally come up (Thinkpad 1412, Celeron 366, 128MB RAM). My desktop is lightening fast (Athlon XP2700+, 256MB RAM, NVIDIA Ti4200) and of course KDE starts quickly, at least as fast as the previous KDE version. I HAVE run into an intermittent problem, however, and I assume it is a memory leak in the OpenGL screensavers. I would set one of the nifty new OpenGL screensavers to work and it would be fine for a while (a day, a couple days) but then I would find the system locked up hard. No keyboard inputs possible and the system would not accept a network connection so I could try to kill X remotely. I have had to hard reboot. I have since switched to just blank screen and have thus far not had any problems...of course, I could go home today and find my system locked up again but in any case, none of this occurred until after I updated my KDE. praedor --- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Fisher wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 06 September 2003 06:47 am, Stefano Pogliani wrote: Would it be ok now to migrate to KDE 3.1.3 for MDK 9.1 or is it still unstable ? In case of yes, which is the most stable source : TexStar or the Mdk Club ? I am using Texstar's packages and they work great. Unfortunately, I think the qa on them is better than those packages available from Club. And where do I get these packages? Go here http://www.zarb.org/~nanardon/ and set up your urpmi sources. Make sure you get the Texstar resource. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you sure the lockups can be attributed to KDE? You said you tried the OpenGL screensavers so it appears that you have installed the nVidia drivers from nVidia. I had strange lockups all the time until I re-installed 9.1 and didn't re-install the nVidia drivers. I haven't even tried the drivers again because of the newfound stability I am experiencing. Same KDE, no lockups. I'm only forced to shutdown when a thunderstorm comes through. Maybe you could try the original drivers that come with Mandrake to rule out the possibility of a video problem. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.16mm-mdk KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client Uptime: 13:50:00 up 5 days, 1:06, 1 user, load average: 0.41, 0.34, 0.16 ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.2 impressions?
On Mon, 2003-05-26 at 19:24, Robert Crawford wrote: I've been struggling with Texstar's 3.1.2 for a week, and have Umm.. i've been trying to get 3.1.2 for about four days now.. Is it just me/my connection/location or is ibiblio SEVERELY busy? i'm getting speeds ranging from 0.8 KB/s to an impressive and amazing 5 KB/s... :o? Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.2 impressions?
29 2003 13:39 Damian Gatabria : Umm.. i've been trying to get 3.1.2 for about four days now.. Is it just me/my connection/location or is ibiblio SEVERELY busy? i'm getting speeds ranging from 0.8 KB/s to an impressive and amazing 5 KB/s... haven't you ever been on 14k4 dialup, have you? :-D -- cu, crz (happily using most current cvs snapshots of almost everything, including KDE) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.2 impressions?
Update: Apparently, the new may27 kdebase Texstar rpms worked out OK with kde 3.1.2, as they have survived 3 reboots without any of the problems I described. What I did was get the stock 3.1 Mandrake kde from the cds stable and configured. Then I logged in to gnome, deleted /home.kde, and checked my /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file line-by-line against my backup kdmrc (they were identical). Then I went to a root console, and to init 3, logged in as root, and cd'd to the directory where all the updated Tex rpms were. I then did: rpm -Uvh --force *.rpm Everything installed, this time withot the warning about creating a /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.rpmsave file, indicating the install wasn't overwriting the kdmrc file. So far, after three reboots, all is well, and nothing has reverted, causing all the problems. I'm pretty sure I've finally got 3.1.2 working and configured correctly now. Many thanks to Texstar for issuing the May27 updates! Apparently (fingers crossed), they have permanently done the trick! Robert Crawford On Tuesday 27 May 2003 19:45, Robert Crawford wrote: Thanks guys, but all of this doesn't work for me- even with all dependencies taken care of. Tex has replaced the 5 kdebase rpms as of today, to fix these problems. My problems remained after reinstalling kde 3.1 from Mandrake cds, and even after a complete reinstall 0f 9.1 and kde, except for /home. I did remove /home/.kde, but now something leftover from the 3.1.2 attempts keeps overwriting the /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file on reboot (see the thread on pclinuxonline if you want the details). Nothing has solved this on my box, even without any kde 3.1.2 stuff installed- I think I would need to reformat /home partition and reinstall, then install the new kde 3.1.2 kdebase fix (may27) from Texstar. I'll try it without formating /home first, just to see if I'm lucky, and can avoid having to copy all my data to another medium. Tex is pretty sure the new rpms will solve the problem. Robert Crawford Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: KDE 3.1.2 impressions?
James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-05-26 at 19:24, Robert Crawford wrote: I've been struggling with Texstar's 3.1.2 for a week, and have really messed up my main box- probably my own fault, but as yet I've not figured it out, and nothing I've learned at pclinuxonline has worked so far. Tex seems to think he has a fix for the kdebase and kdm config file that seems to be messing me up. If you want to check out my posts that explain my case in depth (and others) about this subject, mine are under wrc1944 in the latest 3.1.2 thread at pclinuxonline forums. In my case, it's been a disaster, but some people seem to have very few problems. Robert Crawford Not to doubt for one second your trouble... but for me... it went in flawlessly on two boxes. I did go through 3.1.1 first before 3.1.2 btw. Maybe that helped don't know. I also use gdm not kdm. (I like the themes*grin*) One thing I've noticed is that 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 start a lot faster than 3.1 did. (and it was a speed up from 3.0) James I didn't understand how to go from pclinuxonline to installation, so I ftp'd it down, and made urpmi *.rpm, actually from Konsole when KDE 3.1.0 was running. After reboot, it all went without any problem at all /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.2 impressions?
Just you need to have all the dependences covered. Put the ibiblio textar reservory as a source using urpmi; start installing with urpmi to solve all the dependences and you will get a whole operative 3.1.2 El Martes 27 Mayo 2003 22:05, Björn Lundin escribió: James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-05-26 at 19:24, Robert Crawford wrote: I've been struggling with Texstar's 3.1.2 for a week, and have really messed up my main box- probably my own fault, but as yet I've not figured it out, and nothing I've learned at pclinuxonline has worked so far. Tex seems to think he has a fix for the kdebase and kdm config file that seems to be messing me up. If you want to check out my posts that explain my case in depth (and others) about this subject, mine are under wrc1944 in the latest 3.1.2 thread at pclinuxonline forums. In my case, it's been a disaster, but some people seem to have very few problems. Robert Crawford Not to doubt for one second your trouble... but for me... it went in flawlessly on two boxes. I did go through 3.1.1 first before 3.1.2 btw. Maybe that helped don't know. I also use gdm not kdm. (I like the themes*grin*) One thing I've noticed is that 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 start a lot faster than 3.1 did. (and it was a speed up from 3.0) James I didn't understand how to go from pclinuxonline to installation, so I ftp'd it down, and made urpmi *.rpm, actually from Konsole when KDE 3.1.0 was running. After reboot, it all went without any problem at all /Björn -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia, España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: KDE 3.1.2 impressions?
Thanks guys, but all of this doesn't work for me- even with all dependencies taken care of. Tex has replaced the 5 kdebase rpms as of today, to fix these problems. My problems remained after reinstalling kde 3.1 from Mandrake cds, and even after a complete reinstall 0f 9.1 and kde, except for /home. I did remove /home/.kde, but now something leftover from the 3.1.2 attempts keeps overwriting the /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc file on reboot (see the thread on pclinuxonline if you want the details). Nothing has solved this on my box, even without any kde 3.1.2 stuff installed- I think I would need to reformat /home partition and reinstall, then install the new kde 3.1.2 kdebase fix (may27) from Texstar. I'll try it without formating /home first, just to see if I'm lucky, and can avoid having to copy all my data to another medium. Tex is pretty sure the new rpms will solve the problem. Robert Crawford On Tuesday 27 May 2003 19:11, Francisco Alcaraz wrote: Just you need to have all the dependences covered. Put the ibiblio textar reservory as a source using urpmi; start installing with urpmi to solve all the dependences and you will get a whole operative 3.1.2 El Martes 27 Mayo 2003 22:05, Björn Lundin escribió: James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-05-26 at 19:24, Robert Crawford wrote: I've been struggling with Texstar's 3.1.2 for a week, and have really messed up my main box- probably my own fault, but as yet I've not figured it out, and nothing I've learned at pclinuxonline has worked so far. Tex seems to think he has a fix for the kdebase and kdm config file that seems to be messing me up. If you want to check out my posts that explain my case in depth (and others) about this subject, mine are under wrc1944 in the latest 3.1.2 thread at pclinuxonline forums. In my case, it's been a disaster, but some people seem to have very few problems. Robert Crawford Not to doubt for one second your trouble... but for me... it went in flawlessly on two boxes. I did go through 3.1.1 first before 3.1.2 btw. Maybe that helped don't know. I also use gdm not kdm. (I like the themes*grin*) One thing I've noticed is that 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 start a lot faster than 3.1 did. (and it was a speed up from 3.0) James I didn't understand how to go from pclinuxonline to installation, so I ftp'd it down, and made urpmi *.rpm, actually from Konsole when KDE 3.1.0 was running. After reboot, it all went without any problem at all /Björn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: [kde-linux] What's wrong with konqueror vs this shockwave flash cartoon?
A fix, of sorts! It appears that realplayer screws up the shockwave flash setup. I had two x-shockwave application entries, one for the netscape plugin and one associated with realplayer. The former was straight x-shockwave-flash while the realplayer was x-shockwave-flash2. Both have the same swf file extension. The former is associated with embedded nsplugin viewer, the latter with...nothing. I tried to associate both with the internal netscape plugin viewer but this caused the creation of a third x-shockwave entry, basically a copy of the original realplayer entry. Deleting these extras made the link work - though after I selected konqueror web browser from the popup application window. Realplayer messes up SOME shockwave flash associations. The test All your base are belong to us flash movie on the tutorial page works as it should...regardless of realplayer. On Friday 19 October 2001 05:32 pm, James Richard Tyrer wrote: Praedor Tempus wrote: I have kde 2.2.1 on Mandrake 8.1. I also have both the nsplugins and kdebase-nsplugins packages installed. In Netscape and mozilla, the following shockwave flash video plays without problem but konqueror simply will not do it no matter what I try. http://www.madblast.com/oska/humor_bin.swf I am unable to open the URL with Konqueror without selecting Konqueror from the application selection widget. Maybe a configuration bug. Then it downloaded the file and did NOT rename it correctly. I renamed the file, but it still won't work with 'Netscape Plugin'. However, this isn't the problem since nothing will play the file. However, if I open the site and then click the icon, it plays fine. I suspect the 'bin' is causing the problem. Sure is a weird but isn't it! JRT ___ This message is from the kde-linux mailing list. Account management: http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-linux. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] RE: KDE clock
Just a note to pass along a solution to the problem with the KDE clock outlined below. I found this in the KDE buglist... In my 8.0 installation, the location /etc/localtime was a directory which appeared to be a copy of /usr/share/zoneinfo. The buglist suggested moving /etc/localtime to /etc/localtime_old, then ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Pacific /etc/localtime to link /etc/localtime to the *file* containing the correct zone information. Lo, and behold - it worked! Thanks for the other suggestions! Mike *** Having an interesting time with the KDE clock applet in Mandrake 8.0... It can only display UTC; any attempt to change the time zone results in a dialog box reporting Error setting new time zone! and the clock remains in UTC. The Mandrake Control Center allows the time zone to be changed, but the change is not correctly reflected in the KDE clock. An odd thing: the list of time zone choices given for the KDE clock applet is different from the list in the Control Center. Does the KDE clock applet not look in /usr/share/zoneinfo for data? Using the date command with no parameters returns UTC; setting the TZ variable in a shell appears to work, so I tried setting TZ within /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit in the system clock initialization section. On boot, it then reported that the system clock was being set to PDT (correct), but the system time still appeared to be UTC. Anyone seen this before? Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: KDE clock
Don't feel bad, I've had nothing but frustration in trying to get my LM7.2 server to have the hardware clock set to GMT and have samba act as a timeserver and serve the correct time to WinXX clients. The problem I experience is the exact same thing you describe. If I set the hardware clock to GMT and zoneinfo to CST (where I live) all windows clients get sent time that is +5 hours (or +6 daylight time) ahead of what the actual time is. It seems a time offset is getting applied either twice or once in the wrong direction. I still owe Bartlett a level 10 debug of this problem, but I have been snowed under in my real job and haven't had time to jack with this in the past month or so. I have posted numerous messages several months ago on this issue that contain quite a bit more detail of the phenomenon, but that's where I am on this issue now. Mike Brodie wrote: El Domingo 12 Agosto 2001 05:31, escribiste: Having an interesting time with the KDE clock applet in Mandrake 8.0... It can only display UTC; any attempt to change the time zone results in a dialog box reporting Error setting new time zone! and the clock remains in UTC. The Mandrake Control Center allows the time zone to be changed, but the change is not correctly reflected in the KDE clock. An odd thing: the list of time zone choices given for the KDE clock applet is different from the list in the Control Center. Does the KDE clock applet not look in /usr/share/zoneinfo for data? Using the date command with no parameters returns UTC; setting the TZ variable in a shell appears to work, so I tried setting TZ within /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit in the system clock initialization section. On boot, it then reported that the system clock was being set to PDT (correct), but the system time still appeared to be UTC. Anyone seen this before? Yeah me!!! 24.00 hours is not natural for every body, it is esasy to change, make left click on the clock, in the menu there choose date and time, in the menu on the screen choose the subwindow called Timedates in the dialog Box Time format change %H:%M:%S by %I:%M:%S and Thats all folks! Saludos Hector Perez C Dr PC ** Thank you for the quick reply, but the problem is actually different. I can change the time format (eg 24 hr to 12 Hr) - that works just fine, it's changing the time zone which doesn't work. As stated above, when I right click on the KDE clock and select Adjust Date Time (which requires root access) and select the proper time zone for my locale from the list under the Time Zone tab (I pick America/Vancouver; for some reason Canada/Pacific isn't there, even though it exists under /usr/share/zoneinfo) I get the Error setting time zone error dialog and the time display remains in UTC, or PDT + 7 hours. Still puzzled... Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. ASEL -- Instrument Nacogdoches, Texas N31 34.7 W094 42.6 355 MSL Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: KDE clock
El Domingo 12 Agosto 2001 05:31, escribiste: Having an interesting time with the KDE clock applet in Mandrake 8.0... It can only display UTC; any attempt to change the time zone results in a dialog box reporting Error setting new time zone! and the clock remains in UTC. The Mandrake Control Center allows the time zone to be changed, but the change is not correctly reflected in the KDE clock. An odd thing: the list of time zone choices given for the KDE clock applet is different from the list in the Control Center. Does the KDE clock applet not look in /usr/share/zoneinfo for data? Using the date command with no parameters returns UTC; setting the TZ variable in a shell appears to work, so I tried setting TZ within /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit in the system clock initialization section. On boot, it then reported that the system clock was being set to PDT (correct), but the system time still appeared to be UTC. Anyone seen this before? Yeah me!!! 24.00 hours is not natural for every body, it is esasy to change, make left click on the clock, in the menu there choose date and time, in the menu on the screen choose the subwindow called Timedates in the dialog Box Time format change %H:%M:%S by %I:%M:%S and Thats all folks! Saludos Hector Perez C Dr PC ** Thank you for the quick reply, but the problem is actually different. I can change the time format (eg 24 hr to 12 Hr) - that works just fine, it's changing the time zone which doesn't work. As stated above, when I right click on the KDE clock and select Adjust Date Time (which requires root access) and select the proper time zone for my locale from the list under the Time Zone tab (I pick America/Vancouver; for some reason Canada/Pacific isn't there, even though it exists under /usr/share/zoneinfo) I get the Error setting time zone error dialog and the time display remains in UTC, or PDT + 7 hours. Still puzzled... Mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: KDE Menu crippled! -- Solved!!!
Dear Zeljko: You hit the nail on the head. Typed update-menus -v as user and, bingo, all the menus were redone AUTOMATICALLY. I click on K and all the menus were there, every last one of them. All my thanks and my thanks to others who may have also written. Amazing how a simple command, when you know it, can make your day. Thanks again and Merry Christmas. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] Re: [kde-alpha] Beta 2
Look on any cooker site in the contribs directories. -Chris On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Ray wrote: Has anyone seen the Mandrake rpms for KDE beta 2 yet??
[expert] Re: KDE
Is there a command line to exit KDE? When I upgraded the Xfree with the intention of swapping video cards I managed to change the monitor size. As a consequence of my foolhearty actions I can't see the "logout" in KDE for a proper exit. My guru will be back next week to help me thru Xconfigurator. I can manage simple commands from a terminal screen. Is don't use KDE the best solution? Thanks, Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED]