[FairfieldLife] Re: "Interesting" allusion to Rgveda in the Giitaa?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> XIII 13 (12?)
>
> jñeyam yat tat pravakSyaami
> yaj jñaatvaa'mRtam ashnute
> anaadimat paraM brahma
> *na sat tan naasad ucyate* (na; sat; tat; na; asat; ucyate)
>
> Ramanand Prasad's translation:
>
> I shall fully describe the object of knowledge, knowing which one
> attains immortality. The beginningless Supreme Brahman is said to
be
> neither Sat nor Asat. (See also 9.19) (13.12)
>
> Svami Prabhupaada's translation (somewhat biased, IMO):
>
> I shall now explain the knowable, knowing which you will taste the
> eternal. This is beginningless, and it is subordinate to Me. It is
> called Brahman, the spirit, and it lies beyond the cause and effect
> of this material world.
>
>
> Rgveda X 129, 1 (first line)
>
> naasadaasinno sadaasiittadaaniim
> (without sandhi:
> na; asat; aasiit; na_u; sat; aasiit; tadaaniim)
>
> A.A.Macdonell's translation:
>
> There was not the non-existent
> nor the existent then.("before" tha Big Bang thang?)
>
> If anyone's interested I might try to explain
> why Svami's translation is IMO "somewhat biased".
The third line transliterated exactly as it is
as to spaces between words:
anaadimatparaM brahma
As youse can see above, A.C. transliterates the line
like this:
anaadimat paraM brahma
That's in line with most translations (e.g. "The beginningless
Supreme Brahman").
But in the vocabulary below the translation, A.C. has it
like this:
anaadi - beginningless; mat-param -subordinate to Me;
Go figure!
IMO, it needs some linguistic jugglery to make "mat-param"
'subordinate to Me' Ja nyt tämä poika lähti *askalle!
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[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would love to hear more about the Inquisiton lifetime. Will I have > to read your book? The personal parts won't necessarily be in the book, except as "local color." It'll be fiction. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security Reform Proposal: > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is it the new plan is > going to fix the problem? > > Verbatim response: > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the table begins to > address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, > for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon > wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the > formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those > different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal > accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be > -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. > Does that make any sense to you? > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the > --like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed > to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if > that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that growth is > affected, it will help on the red." Quo usque tandem abutere, Catty Leena, patientia nostra? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Archive FairfieldLife
This is from the guy who runs mail-archive. Does anyone here have the skills to do this? -- Forwarded Message From: Mail Archive Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mail Archive Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:16:23 -0700 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Archive FairfieldLife Hi Rick, sorry for the slow response. The best way to get all the existing messages into The Mail Archive is to use a tool called yahoo2mbox, which can grab all of the messages in a Yahoo Group and put them into the mbox format (which we can easily import). http://www.tt-solutions.com/products/yahoo2mbox/ The only problem with this approach is that Yahoo seems to have a download limit when it detects too many messages being downloaded from a single computer. So it might take a while to download all the messages. This tool requires you to run Perl from the command-line. It sounds like this is out of your area of expertise...is this correct? If so, we can try downloading them on our end. Jeff -- Support The Mail Archive www.mail-archive.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
One word...Xenu! --- Jeff Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > MMY ripped off Scientology, you know. > > Nah. It was Werner Erhard. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- markmeredith2002 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm shocked... just SHOCKED.. at your language > Peter. I'm > > completely convinced that there are thousands of > pundits > > moving towards Vedic City at this very moment. > (Of course, > > there are equal numbers of pundits moviing away > from or > > at right angles to Vedic City, as well, from > probability > > statistics...). :-) > > > > I think Bob Wynne missed his true calling - he > would have > > been great at selling indulgences in the early > 1500's. > > > The word on the street in town tonight is that the > pundits will be > here tomorrow. If this is bluff just to get more > donations, it will > be perceived really badly. That will be cool. I hope they come! > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
Boy, that photo of me and larry is going to haunt me until my final day! Education Committee Chair, now off the board. --- Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure that's the "warm welcome" our > fearless > > > Raja had in mind... > > > > My manners, I know.. But that's how we greet > > people in South Florida! > > Southeast Florida, by chance? > > http://www.sefapp.org/photos/McWilliams/page10.htm > > :~) > > Alex > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory > Goff" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > t3rinity > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes this was Norbert. He was a big fan of > an > > > > initiator who > > > > imagined > > > > > > himself having been Ernst Röhm, chief of > the SA > > > > who was > > > > executed by > > > > > > Hitler later on. > > > > > > > > > > My understanding is that it was specifically > > > > Hermann Goering who > > > > > eliminated his rival Rohm, after > (presumably) > > > > causing the > > > > Reichstag > > > > > fire and (certainly) exploiting it to > eradicate > > > > "homeland" civil > > > > > rights in the name of "security". > > > > > > > > "I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play > the > > > > politics of > > > > putting people into groups and pitting one > group > > > > against another." > > > > George Bush, May 6, 1999 > > > > > > He's also a gigantic, moronic, neurologically > > > impaired, tremendous asshole. Have a pitta day. > > > > Which "he" would that be? Norbert? Rory? Goering? > Bush? > > All of the > > above? > > Duh. This is what the samskara free mind projects. No, it projets anonymously. > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can you believe
--- Llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the President of the most powerful nation on > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't true. > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous combination. > > --You're increduous now? Six years later? Why? Synapses as slow as the President's, apparently. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > > > > > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social > Security > > > Reform Proposal: > > > > > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. > How is > > > it the new plan is > > > going to fix the problem? > > > > > > Verbatim response: > > > > > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on > the > > > table begins to > > > address the big cost drivers. For example, how > > > benefits are calculated, > > > for example, is on the table. Whether or not > > > benefits rise based upon > > > wage increases or price increases. There's a > series > > > of parts of the > > > formula that are being considered. And when you > > > couple that, those > > > different cost drivers, affecting those -- > changing > > > those with personal > > > accounts, the idea is to get what has been > promised > > > more likely to be > > > -- or closer delivered to that has been > promised. > > > Does that make any sense to you? > > > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of > > > things that cause the > > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated > based > > > upon the increase of > > > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. > Some > > > have suggested that > > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based > upon > > > inflation, supposed > > > to wage increases. There is a reform that would > help > > > solve the red if > > > that were put into effect. In other words, how > fast > > > benefits grow, how > > > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if > that > > > growth is > > > affected, it will help on the red." > > > > This is the President of the most powerful nation > on > > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't > true. > > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous > combination. > > um, yeah. Look in the mirror. Oh, you get me so mad! Well, you're a stupid head, so there! And I bet you smell like poop too! > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- lurkernomore20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I once gave MMY a strand of rudraksha beads to > bless and he played > with them > > all night wore them on his wrist and stuff and > then gave them back. > > Pretty, pretty impressive. > > lurk One time on my TTC in Punta Umbria MMY came into the lecture hall and many, many people were giving him rudraksha beads and coral. He had a huge amount draped over is arm. He was laughing and the mound kept on growing. But as he sat down his mood shifted and he seemed to get irritated and he tossed the entire mound into the corner of the couch. He sat down and said that this was not the way it was supposed to be. Someone asked him about the value of rudraksha beads and he said (paraphrased of course)" You know the little children before they are a major? They can't drive the big car so they play with the toy car and go zoom, zoom" Then he laughed long and hard. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/22/05 6:18 AM, t3rinity at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Did you know Hartmut Beyerbach? He was a friend > of mine and used to > > run the > >> press. I think he left in 1977 or so. > > > > YES. Yes, he was my first boss. We left on the > same day the press, he > > for 6 month course and I for phase I. (After him > Eberhard overtook > > the press. > > Doberstein, right? He was a nice guy. Quiet and > gentle but adamant in his > determination to accomplish things. > > > With whom I spent most time. I think he is still > doing it, > > and whatever is still there from the machines went > to India, to > > Japalbur,) After his course I heard he went to > Muktananda, > > Hartmut was what I used to call a "Billy Clayton" > casualty. Billy filled him > in on the MMY/sex stuff, along with Fred den Ouden, > and others, and they > left. > > >who had > > seen Maharishi in 76 in Seelisberg. After > Muktananda he went to Osho. > > He organized the first Sannyas discos in Germany > that were a big > > success. > > What were those? > > >I met him again only in 1993 when I sat next to him > in > > Lucknow at Poonjaji. > > Boy, he really got around. Wonder where he is now. > > >He told me that there was another guy in the > > press who was enlightened called Arjuna, whith > whom he was in the US. > > At that time he was living in the US and had a > japanese wife AFAIK. I > > saw Arjuna just two weeks ago, when he came to our > place. > > Is that Arjuna Nick Ardaugh, who is British, or a > German Arjuna? I saw him several years ago in Miami. Very nice, authentic guy. I sat next to him and my mind completely stopped. It was prettty funny because whatever my intention had been that was structuring my thought process just disappeared. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
on 6/22/05 7:56 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> >> If you could mellow out the Winters and Summers, you could add one > more old 'ru >> to the population! > > Now that FF has a fantastic beach at Waterworks Park, my wife and I > are enjoying the summer heat here a great deal more than in previous > years. And coming from Maine (which so far this year has been cold and > wet), we are quite pleased that Spring is in full force here in March > (as opposed to June in Maine if we were lucky :-) ) We have never seen > a town that provided such a perfect balance of nourishment for spirit, > soul, and body as FF now does. We've both lost weight just from > walking our dog around the trails early in the AM and in late > afternoon... and everyone is FRIENDLY. Wow! Let's do a dog walk together sometime. We've got two. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
on 6/22/05 6:18 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Did you know Hartmut Beyerbach? He was a friend of mine and used to > run the >> press. I think he left in 1977 or so. > > YES. Yes, he was my first boss. We left on the same day the press, he > for 6 month course and I for phase I. (After him Eberhard overtook > the press. Doberstein, right? He was a nice guy. Quiet and gentle but adamant in his determination to accomplish things. > With whom I spent most time. I think he is still doing it, > and whatever is still there from the machines went to India, to > Japalbur,) After his course I heard he went to Muktananda, Hartmut was what I used to call a "Billy Clayton" casualty. Billy filled him in on the MMY/sex stuff, along with Fred den Ouden, and others, and they left. >who had > seen Maharishi in 76 in Seelisberg. After Muktananda he went to Osho. > He organized the first Sannyas discos in Germany that were a big > success. What were those? >I met him again only in 1993 when I sat next to him in > Lucknow at Poonjaji. Boy, he really got around. Wonder where he is now. >He told me that there was another guy in the > press who was enlightened called Arjuna, whith whom he was in the US. > At that time he was living in the US and had a japanese wife AFAIK. I > saw Arjuna just two weeks ago, when he came to our place. Is that Arjuna Nick Ardaugh, who is British, or a German Arjuna? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Livingston Manor news
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Someone emailed me: > > Yesterday Wed. I returned from staying @ Livingston Manor. I went to assist > in its clean up etc. & was happy there etc. They have 13 paid helpers @ > the place in residence till the work ends about 10 July 05 they plan to > bring M. D. there. * Sidhas & 5 meditator's including now a cook & > assistant cook This work is running well behind in my & there most informed > feeling. Mold in the basement area & all other places are conquered. Rooms > in 3 Imperial old celeberty 2 floors & new celeberty 2 floors, are being > fully rehabed by several outside contractors, broken windows to be rehabbed > & or replaced. Dining room cleaned up & kitchen retrofitted to service > 200-300 people. It will take some more time but I feel perhaps late July or > Aug it will be complete. All unused bldgs. & former residences are being > taken down & only 3 or 4 left for staff. They have plumbers, boiler people, > all competent & industrious. This rehab should allow them to use the Manor > grounds for 2-4 yrs till Vedic construction cans take place there. *** I'm not so sure Vedic construction can take place. I recall that MUM filled in the small pond on campus so there would be no bodies of water south of any bldgs, yet the Liv Manor site has two good-sized lakes which are south of the property (one only partially south). Even if they move the bldgs west, so that only one lake is south, I think it's still too close to be suitable for Sthapathya Ved -- maybe not, I'm not sure on how far away a body of water to the south has to be before it is no longer inauspicious: http://tinyurl.com/7qw7s To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Your support is vitally needed! Let's give the > > > Vedic > > > > > Scholars a very warm > > > > > welcome, and make sure that they have all that > > > they > > > > > need. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? > > > What a > > > > bunch of con artists. > > > > > > I'm not sure that's the "warm welcome" our fearless > > > Raja had in mind... > > > > My manners, I know.. But that's how we greet > > people in South Florida! > > Yeah, I remember seeing those "Greetings from South Florida ... go > fvck yourself" postcards in every gift-shop in Sarasota. ;-) Its Self talking to your pseudo Self, Rory To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I once gave MMY a strand of rudraksha beads to bless and he played with them > all night wore them on his wrist and stuff and then gave them back. Pretty, pretty impressive. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Borowitz Report (was: A Sense of Sangha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > SCIENTOLOGISTS CALL TOM CRUISE `TOO WEIRD' > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think Tom's going to be on the talk show circuit > > much longer: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/8njnb > > Oh nice! I'd only seen the animated .GIF version > > http://www.jinxedmedia.com/tomcruise.gif http://freekatie.net/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security > > Reform Proposal: > > > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is > > it the new plan is > > going to fix the problem? > > > > Verbatim response: > > > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the > > table begins to > > address the big cost drivers. For example, how > > benefits are calculated, > > for example, is on the table. Whether or not > > benefits rise based upon > > wage increases or price increases. There's a series > > of parts of the > > formula that are being considered. And when you > > couple that, those > > different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing > > those with personal > > accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised > > more likely to be > > -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. > > Does that make any sense to you? > > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of > > things that cause the > > --like, for example, benefits are calculated based > > upon the increase of > > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some > > have suggested that > > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon > > inflation, supposed > > to wage increases. There is a reform that would help > > solve the red if > > that were put into effect. In other words, how fast > > benefits grow, how > > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that > > growth is > > affected, it will help on the red." > > This is the President of the most powerful nation on > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't true. > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous combination. um, yeah. Look in the mirror. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits He was thinking of your balls. - Original Message - From: Rick Archer To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits on 6/23/05 10:26 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many pundits - fifteen? So what? This was th Sat Yuga we were waiting for? I remember Purusha guys saying that maharishi said the US wasn't ready for Shiva. MMY would usually take people's rudraksha beads when they were wearing them around him. I once gave MMY a strand of rudraksha beads to bless and he played with them all night wore them on his wrist and stuff and then gave them back. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Your support is vitally needed! Let's give the Vedic > > > Scholars a very warm > > > welcome, and make sure that they have all that they > > > need. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? What a > > bunch of con artists. Yes, I seek THAT. That pure holy enlightenment! I seek THAT! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes this was Norbert. He was a big fan of an > > > initiator who > > > imagined > > > > > himself having been Ernst Röhm, chief of the SA > > > who was > > > executed by > > > > > Hitler later on. > > > > > > > > My understanding is that it was specifically > > > Hermann Goering who > > > > eliminated his rival Rohm, after (presumably) > > > causing the > > > Reichstag > > > > fire and (certainly) exploiting it to eradicate > > > "homeland" civil > > > > rights in the name of "security". > > > > > > "I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play the > > > politics of > > > putting people into groups and pitting one group > > > against another." > > > George Bush, May 6, 1999 > > > > He's also a gigantic, moronic, neurologically > > impaired, tremendous asshole. Have a pitta day. > > Which "he" would that be? Norbert? Rory? Goering? Bush? All of the > above? Duh. This is what the samskara free mind projects. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits on 6/23/05 10:26 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many pundits - fifteen? So what? This was th Sat Yuga we were waiting for? I remember Purusha guys saying that maharishi said the US wasn't ready for Shiva. MMY would usually take people's rudraksha beads when they were wearing them around him. I once gave MMY a strand of rudraksha beads to bless and he played with them all night – wore them on his wrist and stuff – and then gave them back. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can you believe
This is the President of the most powerful nation onearth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't true.He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, heonly thinks he knows. A very dangerous combination. --You're increduous now? Six years later? Why? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
How many pundits - fifteen? So what? This was th Sat Yuga we were waiting for? I remember Purusha guys saying that maharishi said the US wasn't ready for Shiva. MMY would usually take people's rudraksha beads when they were wearing them around him. H ecould rather, hae just trained Purusha to do the Rudrabhisheka twenty years ago. Tthat's what I wanted back then. Later, I got Swami Saraswati Satyanands Rudrastadayayayi and did it myself. It works. Siva is easy to propitiate since Shiva is God. There's nothing standing between you and It. - Original Message - From: markmeredith2002 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> I'm shocked... just SHOCKED.. at your language Peter. I'm> completely convinced that there are thousands of pundits> moving towards Vedic City at this very moment. (Of course,> there are equal numbers of pundits moviing away from or> at right angles to Vedic City, as well, from probability> statistics...). :-)> > I think Bob Wynne missed his true calling - he would have> been great at selling indulgences in the early 1500's.> The word on the street in town tonight is that the pundits will behere tomorrow. If this is bluff just to get more donations, it willbe perceived really badly.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Your support is vitally needed! Let's give the > > Vedic > > > > Scholars a very warm > > > > welcome, and make sure that they have all that > > they > > > > need. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? > > What a > > > bunch of con artists. > > > > I'm not sure that's the "warm welcome" our fearless > > Raja had in mind... > > My manners, I know.. But that's how we greet > people in South Florida! Yeah, I remember seeing those "Greetings from South Florida ... go fvck yourself" postcards in every gift-shop in Sarasota. ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Borowitz Report (was: A Sense of Sangha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > SCIENTOLOGISTS CALL TOM CRUISE `TOO WEIRD' > > > > > > > I don't think Tom's going to be on the talk show circuit > much longer: > > http://tinyurl.com/8njnb Oh nice! I'd only seen the animated .GIF version http://www.jinxedmedia.com/tomcruise.gif To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm not sure that's the "warm welcome" our fearless > > Raja had in mind... > > My manners, I know.. But that's how we greet > people in South Florida! Southeast Florida, by chance? http://www.sefapp.org/photos/McWilliams/page10.htm :~) Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Livingston Manor news
Title: Livingston Manor news Someone emailed me: Yesterday Wed. I returned from staying @ Livingston Manor. I went to assist in its clean up etc. & was happy there etc. They have 13 paid helpers @ the place in residence till the work ends about 10 July 05 they plan to bring M. D. there. * Sidhas & 5 meditator's including now a cook & assistant cook This work is running well behind in my & there most informed feeling. Mold in the basement area & all other places are conquered. Rooms in 3 Imperial old celeberty 2 floors & new celeberty 2 floors, are being fully rehabed by several outside contractors, broken windows to be rehabbed & or replaced. Dining room cleaned up & kitchen retrofitted to service 200-300 people. It will take some more time but I feel perhaps late July or Aug it will be complete. All unused bldgs. & former residences are being taken down & only 3 or 4 left for staff. They have plumbers, boiler people, all competent & industrious. This rehab should allow them to use the Manor grounds for 2-4 yrs till Vedic construction cans take place there. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Karl Rove's/ Mantra-"Divide and Rule"...'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >In a message dated 6/23/05 11:49:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >We need to >get a lot more activist and not just hope that we can vote them out in >some future election if we still have them. > >- Bhairitu > > > >You can't. Your only option is purple Kool-aid. > > > But won't all the cosmic bun-hoppers make things right? ;-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Borowitz Report (was: A Sense of Sangha)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > SCIENTOLOGISTS CALL TOM CRUISE `TOO WEIRD' > > > I don't think Tom's going to be on the talk show circuit much longer: http://tinyurl.com/8njnb To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/23/05 5:33 PM, Peter Sutphen at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? > What a > > > bunch of con artists. > > > > > > But it sounds like pundits are actually coming, so > doesn't that > raise them > > up a few notches in your estimation? > > ** > > If the pundits are actually coming, Wynne would do > himself a world of > good by supplying some missing numbers. He says > > > The 100,000 square foot campus was completed on > > budget in nine months in > > time to host the 328 Governors on the first > Governor > > Recertification Course > > in April. The campus is also now hosting the first > > Teacher Training Course > > to be held in North America in seven years. > > but fails to say how many rooms are now taken by > people on the (4- > month?) TTC in Vedic City, which leaves up in the > air how many > pundits are supposed to coming "immediately." He > later says support > for pundits amounts to $450/month, but does not > state how much to > date has been raised and spent on the project, a > failure which makes > him look shifty and would not inspire potential > donors to overlook > the fact that the pundits' imminent arrival has been > steadily > announced for the last two years. I think if Wynne > actually does > cough up some pundits, there will be enough goodwill > to overlook all > the fupucks, but he's not making goodwill easy. I truly hope they do come. I'll eat the biggest crow-pie you can find. But puease..!! This fundraising angle has really been ground into the ground. Perhaps they're thinking that there will be a perfect corellation between last dollar donated and last drop of goodwill ground to a pulp. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
On Jun 23, 2005, at 10:15 PM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 6/23/05 5:33 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? What a >>> bunch of con artists. >> >> But it sounds like pundits are actually coming, so doesn't that raise > them >> up a few notches in your estimation? > > On this list, are you kidding? > > MMY ripped off Scientology, you know. I'm perfectly convinced that once they are released from Guantanamo they'll be instant media darlings. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can you believe
on 6/23/05 9:33 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This is the President of the most powerful nation on > earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't true. > He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he > only thinks he knows. A very dangerous combination. I don't even think he thinks he knows half of the time. He just does what the smart guys tell him and hopes the teleprompter doesn't break. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
on 6/23/05 9:16 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> When I was teaching TTC I told Maharishi that I often had the > experience >> that people would ask a question to which I didn't know the answer, > but that >> I would start with a few words and then the answer would just come > out. >> Maharishi said something like, "Very good, that's how I do it." > > > Yep, MMY never had any clue about anything he's talking about. He > just read from some script prepared for him by Sanskrit scholars > because he couldn't read sanskrit... The point of the story is that he taught largely from intuition. Knowledge just flowed out as it was needed. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- Rory Goff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Your support is vitally needed! Let's give the > Vedic > > > Scholars a very warm > > > welcome, and make sure that they have all that > they > > > need. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? > What a > > bunch of con artists. > > I'm not sure that's the "warm welcome" our fearless > Raja had in mind... My manners, I know.. But that's how we greet people in South Florida! > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
Forgive me Lord! They have always been on their way. They just take the tiniest of steps. --- Cliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm shocked... just SHOCKED.. at your language > Peter. I'm > completely convinced that there are thousands of > pundits > moving towards Vedic City at this very moment. (Of > course, > there are equal numbers of pundits moviing away from > or > at right angles to Vedic City, as well, from > probability > statistics...). :-) > > I think Bob Wynne missed his true calling - he would > have > been great at selling indulgences in the early > 1500's. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? > What a > > bunch of con artists. > > > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > I wanted to let everyone know who has been > > > supporting the Vedic Scholar > > > project this past year that the Vedic Scholars > will > > > be coming immediately! > > > And even more Vedic Scholars will follow as more > > > accommodations become > > > available. Some of the Pandits will also be > > > traveling in groups of 15 to > > > every Peace Palace as they are built around the > > > country. They will perform > > > Vedic recitations daily in specially constructed > > > Yagya Mandaps. > > > > > > From Vedic India, they will come to Maharishi > Vedic > > > City in Vedic > > > America--and soon to every region of the > country. > > > Every Peace Palace city > > > will become Vedic--Vedic New York, Vedic > Washington, > > > etc. With this gift > > > from Vedic India, America will rise to > > > invincibility. > > > > > > You have really produced something great. The > United > > > States and the world > > > would not be the same today if you had not > supported > > > the construction of > > > this Vastu campus that will allow the Pandits to > > > come and live properly in > > > America. > > > > > > The 100,000 square foot campus was completed on > > > budget in nine months in > > > time to host the 328 Governors on the first > Governor > > > Recertification Course > > > in April. The campus is also now hosting the > first > > > Teacher Training Course > > > to be held in North America in seven years. > > > > > > Now we move into the operational phase of > supporting > > > the Vedic Scholars > > > while they are here. As you remember, the cost > for > > > each Vedic Scholar is > > > $450 per month. We also wanted to have 2 months > in > > > advance to cover their > > > air fare and other setup costs. > > > > > > Many had pledged to support the Pandits once > they > > > were on their way, and we > > > spent and borrowed to complete the campus > assuming > > > that those pledges would > > > come in when we needed them. > > > > > > Now would be a good time to fulfill those > pledges or > > > give more than you had > > > planned. Please go to > > > > http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/contribute/to > > > make your contribution by credit card or > automatic > > > bank withdrawal. Or send > > > a check to Global Country of World Peace, 1973 > Grand > > > Drive, Maharishi Vedic > > > City, IA 52556. > > > > > > If you have already been supporting the Vedic > > > Scholars and wish to increase > > > your contribution you may do so by submitting a > new > > > contribution > > > > > > https://vediccity.securesites.com/contribute/contribution.cgi> > > > for the > > > additional amount at the Maharishi Vedic City > web > > > site. > > > > > > Your support is vitally needed! Let's give the > Vedic > > > Scholars a very warm > > > welcome, and make sure that they have all that > they > > > need. > > > > > > Congratulations. You had the foresight and the > > > confidence to support this > > > project that will help America rise to > invincibility > > > and create permanent > > > world peace. Very well done. > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev. > > > > > > Raja Wynne > > > Raja of Vedic America, > > > Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City, and > > > President of the Global Country of World Peace, > > > the U.S. based 501(c)(3) non-profit organization > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protec
Re: [FairfieldLife] Can you believe
--- johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security > Reform Proposal: > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is > it the new plan is > going to fix the problem? > > Verbatim response: > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the > table begins to > address the big cost drivers. For example, how > benefits are calculated, > for example, is on the table. Whether or not > benefits rise based upon > wage increases or price increases. There's a series > of parts of the > formula that are being considered. And when you > couple that, those > different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing > those with personal > accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised > more likely to be > -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. > Does that make any sense to you? > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of > things that cause the > --like, for example, benefits are calculated based > upon the increase of > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some > have suggested that > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon > inflation, supposed > to wage increases. There is a reform that would help > solve the red if > that were put into effect. In other words, how fast > benefits grow, how > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that > growth is > affected, it will help on the red." This is the President of the most powerful nation on earth. It would make a great joke if it wasn't true. He truly doesn't know what he is talking about, he only thinks he knows. A very dangerous combination. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm shocked... just SHOCKED.. at your language Peter. I'm > completely convinced that there are thousands of pundits > moving towards Vedic City at this very moment. (Of course, > there are equal numbers of pundits moviing away from or > at right angles to Vedic City, as well, from probability > statistics...). :-) > > I think Bob Wynne missed his true calling - he would have > been great at selling indulgences in the early 1500's. > The word on the street in town tonight is that the pundits will be here tomorrow. If this is bluff just to get more donations, it will be perceived really badly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Karl Rove's/ Mantra-"Divide and Rule"...'
In a message dated 6/23/05 11:49:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We need to get a lot more activist and not just hope that we can vote them out in some future election if we still have them.- Bhairitu You can't. Your only option is purple Kool-aid. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/23/05 3:41 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>> Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you > >>> get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other- > >>> wise teach within the organization? > >> > >> Thanks. Yes, I'm an auditor and lecturer. I deal mostly with > > people > >> for whom it is all brand new. > > > > Cool. Back in the TM world, I used to like doing intro > > lectures. I wound up giving a lot of advanced lectures > > at centers and residence courses, but to be honest the > > best thing I liked about them was not the prepared spiel > > but the Q&A. I liked that process of being thrown a > > question I had no canned answer for, and having an answer > > come out anyway, distilled from 20 different things I'd > > heard in 20 different situations but had never pulled > > together before, and intuiting that it was an *OK* > > answser. Real magic. > > When I was teaching TTC I told Maharishi that I often had the experience > that people would ask a question to which I didn't know the answer, but that > I would start with a few words and then the answer would just come out. > Maharishi said something like, "Very good, that's how I do it." Yep, MMY never had any clue about anything he's talking about. He just read from some script prepared for him by Sanskrit scholars because he couldn't read sanskrit... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/23/05 5:33 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? What a > > bunch of con artists. > > But it sounds like pundits are actually coming, so doesn't that raise them > up a few notches in your estimation? On this list, are you kidding? MMY ripped off Scientology, you know. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
Doonsebury has a cartoon that quotes the whole thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security Reform Proposal: > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is it the new plan is > going to fix the problem? > > Verbatim response: > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the table begins to > address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, > for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon > wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the > formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those > different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal > accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be > -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. > Does that make any sense to you? > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the > --like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed > to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if > that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that growth is > affected, it will help on the red." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
> > Your support is vitally needed! Let's give the Vedic > > Scholars a very warm > > welcome, and make sure that they have all that they > > need. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? What a > bunch of con artists. I'm not sure that's the "warm welcome" our fearless Raja had in mind... :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes this was Norbert. He was a big fan of an > > initiator who > > imagined > > > > himself having been Ernst Röhm, chief of the SA > > who was > > executed by > > > > Hitler later on. > > > > > > My understanding is that it was specifically > > Hermann Goering who > > > eliminated his rival Rohm, after (presumably) > > causing the > > Reichstag > > > fire and (certainly) exploiting it to eradicate > > "homeland" civil > > > rights in the name of "security". > > > > "I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play the > > politics of > > putting people into groups and pitting one group > > against another." > > George Bush, May 6, 1999 > > He's also a gigantic, moronic, neurologically > impaired, tremendous asshole. Have a pitta day. Which "he" would that be? Norbert? Rory? Goering? Bush? All of the above? Pitta-full indeed! :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The problem here is that > > > TM (like scientology) assumes that the stresses are located > > > physically. Thats not the same with the samskara theory. > Therefore > > it > > > assumes that you have to release them one by one, resulting in an > > > appropriate experience. > > > > My recollection is that more than one stress can be associated with > > more than one thought/feeling/etc. > > More than one with more than one? This could be one to one ;-) You > mean one stress could be associated/release through many thoughts, and > by the very same thoughts, other different stresses could be released > as well? Makes a smoke screen ;-) Well, whatever, it doesn't change > the essentials of it, that is quality of stress releases = quality of > thought experienced. Thats the equation, ther is no way around it. > But there's no way to analyze it, so attempting to say "quality = quality" is silly. Not zero = not zero. Big whoop. > > You sort of will experience them on their way > > > out. I don't know if this can be said of Samskaras, I think not. > > > > > > > MMY came up with the theory to explain "stress release" during the > > rest of TM. Some other enlightenment program may or may not involve > > stress release, eh? > > Sorry, it was you who defined stresses as Samskaras. All indian > enlightenment programs are about ridding oneself from Samskaras. Or do > you mean there are stresses that are Samskaras and some that aren't? > Which way, Lawson? The mechanics of "stress release" involves rest leading to physical repair with an associated mental activity. Some other enlightenment program may not involve rest and therefore may not involve physical repair with an associated mental activity. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In Dianetics, one would not have to "relive" all such > > imprints to become "Clear." The collapse of the Reactive Bank > (that > > portion of the mind that works on a totally stimulus-response > basis) > > can occur rather quickly - like even in a session or two, although > > that would be rare. > > Interesting. Thank you for the correction. makes a lot of sense. > > > If TM dissolves such imprints, one would experience, IMO, the > emotion > > that is contained there (eg. anger, fear, apathy). The difference > is > > that in Dianetics, one relives the experience, reexperiencing the > > emotion but in continuing to relive it, comes up the emotional > "tone > > scale" until he is cheerful about it. > > I guess in not being overshadowed by the experience, i.e. just being > the witness? > > > At this point the "reactive" > > effect of that imprint is gone. One then operates more under one's > > own volitional control. > > > > According to Dianetics, when something in your environment is > similar > > to information stored in the engram, the emotion, unconsciousness > or > > pain will be restimulated and will be to some degree reexperienced > > (dramatized). As this is usually on the sub conscious level, one > > picks out something in the current environment to "blame" the > > unwanted feelings on. This is similar to Judy's idea (or MMY's) > that > > as the stress is released in TM, one will have a thought that > > reflects the "quality" of that imprint, rather than the actual > > content of the stress being released. > > Thank you too, Jeff, this is what I was trying to say. I think now > everybody can see the similarities of both explanations. Now the > question is: whos was first? My guess is that scientology was first, > and MMY used that model, adapting it for his own purpose of Mantra > Meditation. My guess is that they were developed independently. MMY's explanaqtion of how stress release works is different than what you are saying. You quote him verbatum, then interpret him in a way that is often 180 degrees away from what the words are saying (in my opinion of course). It didn't change the meditation, but it changed how we see > it, and how we see our own progress. It's one of the puzzles showing > how MMY was trying to rid TM from its own religious heritage, or > rather transport it into a new terminology. IMO the 2nd day checking > explanation plus the prep lecture are the backbone of the TM ideology. TM initiation is the 'backbone' of TM. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My > > notes say: (translated from german): 'The quality of the stress > > determines the quality of thought.' > > > > Then it gives the example I just had given, of the joy causing a > > stress in the past, and how the mind picks up the feeling and > > associates it with the coming of a friend. Whatever it associates it > > with is not important, obviously, it's arbitrary. > > > > My course was in July 1977, Avoriaz. > > I was at the same Avoriaz course and I remember it as you state here. > Do you remember a German guy named Norbert from that course? It's > the only German name I remember from the course, although I do > remember spending an evening with several Germans who were telling me > that Hitler (as this is not an "argument" I hope this won't degrade > my story) was very spiritual in the beginning - People coming up to > him and giving him flowers, etc. They were very forceful in there > arguments, but it was too much for me to buy. > Nazism was a mystical state religion in Germany during the war. Hitler was basically the high priest. > > TM (like scientology) assumes that the stresses are located > > physically. Thats not the same with the samskara theory. > > In Scientology, the "stresses" (engrams) are not located physically. > When one "dramatizes" the earlier event, one will reexperience the > physical pain associated with it. Got your head chopped in the > French Revolution (like my dear wife)? Dramatization of extreme neck > discomfort until that incident is "run out." > > Jeff To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
I'm shocked... just SHOCKED.. at your language Peter. I'm completely convinced that there are thousands of pundits moving towards Vedic City at this very moment. (Of course, there are equal numbers of pundits moviing away from or at right angles to Vedic City, as well, from probability statistics...). :-) I think Bob Wynne missed his true calling - he would have been great at selling indulgences in the early 1500's. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? What a > bunch of con artists. > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I wanted to let everyone know who has been > > supporting the Vedic Scholar > > project this past year that the Vedic Scholars will > > be coming immediately! > > And even more Vedic Scholars will follow as more > > accommodations become > > available. Some of the Pandits will also be > > traveling in groups of 15 to > > every Peace Palace as they are built around the > > country. They will perform > > Vedic recitations daily in specially constructed > > Yagya Mandaps. > > > > From Vedic India, they will come to Maharishi Vedic > > City in Vedic > > America--and soon to every region of the country. > > Every Peace Palace city > > will become Vedic--Vedic New York, Vedic Washington, > > etc. With this gift > > from Vedic India, America will rise to > > invincibility. > > > > You have really produced something great. The United > > States and the world > > would not be the same today if you had not supported > > the construction of > > this Vastu campus that will allow the Pandits to > > come and live properly in > > America. > > > > The 100,000 square foot campus was completed on > > budget in nine months in > > time to host the 328 Governors on the first Governor > > Recertification Course > > in April. The campus is also now hosting the first > > Teacher Training Course > > to be held in North America in seven years. > > > > Now we move into the operational phase of supporting > > the Vedic Scholars > > while they are here. As you remember, the cost for > > each Vedic Scholar is > > $450 per month. We also wanted to have 2 months in > > advance to cover their > > air fare and other setup costs. > > > > Many had pledged to support the Pandits once they > > were on their way, and we > > spent and borrowed to complete the campus assuming > > that those pledges would > > come in when we needed them. > > > > Now would be a good time to fulfill those pledges or > > give more than you had > > planned. Please go to > > http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/contribute/to > > make your contribution by credit card or automatic > > bank withdrawal. Or send > > a check to Global Country of World Peace, 1973 Grand > > Drive, Maharishi Vedic > > City, IA 52556. > > > > If you have already been supporting the Vedic > > Scholars and wish to increase > > your contribution you may do so by submitting a new > > contribution > > > https://vediccity.securesites.com/contribute/contribution.cgi> > > for the > > additional amount at the Maharishi Vedic City web > > site. > > > > Your support is vitally needed! Let's give the Vedic > > Scholars a very warm > > welcome, and make sure that they have all that they > > need. > > > > Congratulations. You had the foresight and the > > confidence to support this > > project that will help America rise to invincibility > > and create permanent > > world peace. Very well done. > > > > Jai Guru Dev. > > > > Raja Wynne > > Raja of Vedic America, > > Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City, and > > President of the Global Country of World Peace, > > the U.S. based 501(c)(3) non-profit organization > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/23/05 3:41 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>> Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you > >>> get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other- > >>> wise teach within the organization? > >> > >> Thanks. Yes, I'm an auditor and lecturer. I deal mostly with > > people > >> for whom it is all brand new. > > > > Cool. Back in the TM world, I used to like doing intro > > lectures. I wound up giving a lot of advanced lectures > > at centers and residence courses, but to be honest the > > best thing I liked about them was not the prepared spiel > > but the Q&A. I liked that process of being thrown a > > question I had no canned answer for, and having an answer > > come out anyway, distilled from 20 different things I'd > > heard in 20 different situations but had never pulled > > together before, and intuiting that it was an *OK* > > answser. Real magic. > > When I was teaching TTC I told Maharishi that I often had the experience > that people would ask a question to which I didn't know the answer, but that > I would start with a few words and then the answer would just come out. > Maharishi said something like, "Very good, that's how I do it." Excellent! Thanks for sharing this =^) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/23/05 5:33 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? What a > > bunch of con artists. > > But it sounds like pundits are actually coming, so doesn't that raise them > up a few notches in your estimation? ** If the pundits are actually coming, Wynne would do himself a world of good by supplying some missing numbers. He says > The 100,000 square foot campus was completed on > budget in nine months in > time to host the 328 Governors on the first Governor > Recertification Course > in April. The campus is also now hosting the first > Teacher Training Course > to be held in North America in seven years. but fails to say how many rooms are now taken by people on the (4- month?) TTC in Vedic City, which leaves up in the air how many pundits are supposed to coming "immediately." He later says support for pundits amounts to $450/month, but does not state how much to date has been raised and spent on the project, a failure which makes him look shifty and would not inspire potential donors to overlook the fact that the pundits' imminent arrival has been steadily announced for the last two years. I think if Wynne actually does cough up some pundits, there will be enough goodwill to overlook all the fupucks, but he's not making goodwill easy. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
Ironic that Mayor Wynne and Prez Bush appeared here on FFLife in the same hour, both full of shit to the ears. - Original Message - From: jim_flanegin To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:> THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security Reform Proposal:> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
on 6/23/05 3:41 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you >>> get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other- >>> wise teach within the organization? >> >> Thanks. Yes, I'm an auditor and lecturer. I deal mostly with > people >> for whom it is all brand new. > > Cool. Back in the TM world, I used to like doing intro > lectures. I wound up giving a lot of advanced lectures > at centers and residence courses, but to be honest the > best thing I liked about them was not the prepared spiel > but the Q&A. I liked that process of being thrown a > question I had no canned answer for, and having an answer > come out anyway, distilled from 20 different things I'd > heard in 20 different situations but had never pulled > together before, and intuiting that it was an *OK* > answser. Real magic. When I was teaching TTC I told Maharishi that I often had the experience that people would ask a question to which I didn't know the answer, but that I would start with a few words and then the answer would just come out. Maharishi said something like, "Very good, that's how I do it." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
on 6/23/05 5:33 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? What a > bunch of con artists. But it sounds like pundits are actually coming, so doesn't that raise them up a few notches in your estimation? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
on 6/23/05 6:41 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > crazy or on drugs, or both...end of story. Or brain damaged due to years of drugs and heavy drinking, on top of not being too smart to begin with. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can you believe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID > > Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security Reform Proposal: > > WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is it the new plan is > going to fix the problem? > > Verbatim response: > > PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the table begins to > address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, > for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon > wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the > formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those > different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal > accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be > -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. > Does that make any sense to you? > It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the > --like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of > wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that > we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed > to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if > that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how > fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that growth is > affected, it will help on the red." crazy or on drugs, or both...end of story. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Can you believe
THIS IS NOT A JOKE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID Subject: President Bush explains his Social Security Reform Proposal: WOMAN IN AUDIENCE: I don't really understand. How is it the new plan is going to fix the problem? Verbatim response: PRESIDENT BUSH: "Because the -- all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, for example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the --like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate -- the benefits will rise based upon inflation, supposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those -- if that growth is affected, it will help on the red." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
On Jun 23, 2005, at 6:33 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? What a > bunch of con artists. Well dear, I believe Raja Wynee has his own web site. The other option might be to get Prince Alex ( :-) ) to hand deliver your letter. There are infinite possibilities ya know.. Prems, Vaj To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
Where do I send the "go fvck yourself" letter? What a bunch of con artists. --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Friends, > > I wanted to let everyone know who has been > supporting the Vedic Scholar > project this past year that the Vedic Scholars will > be coming immediately! > And even more Vedic Scholars will follow as more > accommodations become > available. Some of the Pandits will also be > traveling in groups of 15 to > every Peace Palace as they are built around the > country. They will perform > Vedic recitations daily in specially constructed > Yagya Mandaps. > > From Vedic India, they will come to Maharishi Vedic > City in Vedic > America--and soon to every region of the country. > Every Peace Palace city > will become Vedic--Vedic New York, Vedic Washington, > etc. With this gift > from Vedic India, America will rise to > invincibility. > > You have really produced something great. The United > States and the world > would not be the same today if you had not supported > the construction of > this Vastu campus that will allow the Pandits to > come and live properly in > America. > > The 100,000 square foot campus was completed on > budget in nine months in > time to host the 328 Governors on the first Governor > Recertification Course > in April. The campus is also now hosting the first > Teacher Training Course > to be held in North America in seven years. > > Now we move into the operational phase of supporting > the Vedic Scholars > while they are here. As you remember, the cost for > each Vedic Scholar is > $450 per month. We also wanted to have 2 months in > advance to cover their > air fare and other setup costs. > > Many had pledged to support the Pandits once they > were on their way, and we > spent and borrowed to complete the campus assuming > that those pledges would > come in when we needed them. > > Now would be a good time to fulfill those pledges or > give more than you had > planned. Please go to > http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/contribute/to > make your contribution by credit card or automatic > bank withdrawal. Or send > a check to Global Country of World Peace, 1973 Grand > Drive, Maharishi Vedic > City, IA 52556. > > If you have already been supporting the Vedic > Scholars and wish to increase > your contribution you may do so by submitting a new > contribution > https://vediccity.securesites.com/contribute/contribution.cgi> > for the > additional amount at the Maharishi Vedic City web > site. > > Your support is vitally needed! Let's give the Vedic > Scholars a very warm > welcome, and make sure that they have all that they > need. > > Congratulations. You had the foresight and the > confidence to support this > project that will help America rise to invincibility > and create permanent > world peace. Very well done. > > Jai Guru Dev. > > Raja Wynne > Raja of Vedic America, > Mayor of Maharishi Vedic City, and > President of the Global Country of World Peace, > the U.S. based 501(c)(3) non-profit organization > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cool. Back in the TM world, I used to like doing intro > lectures. I wound up giving a lot of advanced lectures > at centers and residence courses, but to be honest the > best thing I liked about them was not the prepared spiel > but the Q&A. I liked that process of being thrown a > question I had no canned answer for, and having an answer > come out anyway, distilled from 20 different things I'd > heard in 20 different situations but had never pulled > together before, and intuiting that it was an *OK* > answser. Real magic. > > Unc My experience also. This was the fun part for both teacher and student. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM "grad school?"
--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There appears to be two very popular grad schools > for > > TMers. These are the University of Sri Sri Ravi > > Shankar and Amma State University. Others have > also > > attended Gangaji A&M, and Karunamayi Teachers > College. > > There are other grad schools too, but I haven't > heard > > about them. > > That's an insightful way of putting it. I've > met Gangaji, and sat in on a couple of her > satsangs, including the one she held the day > she received word that her teacher had died. > Impressive, on many levels. > > Unc I've always loved that Ramana Maharishi tradition. I've enjoyed her books and tapes. She has a new book out called "Diamond in Your Pocket". Very good. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Yes this was Norbert. He was a big fan of an > initiator who > imagined > > > himself having been Ernst Röhm, chief of the SA > who was > executed by > > > Hitler later on. > > > > My understanding is that it was specifically > Hermann Goering who > > eliminated his rival Rohm, after (presumably) > causing the > Reichstag > > fire and (certainly) exploiting it to eradicate > "homeland" civil > > rights in the name of "security". > > "I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play the > politics of > putting people into groups and pitting one group > against another." > George Bush, May 6, 1999 He's also a gigantic, moronic, neurologically impaired, tremendous asshole. Have a pitta day. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > lower case: Alt + 0252 ü > Upper case: Alt + 0220 Ü > > http://www.starr.net/is/type/altnum.htm Danke, Card. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He first was in Cologne and then went to Nuremberg > > where I am from. > > Thanks for the update. Your English is incredibly gut. > I studied German in gymnasium (FisCher) but all I really rememeber is > Noch zwei, bitte when I wanted to order bier for my friend and I. I > was in Switzerland (mein unkle has lived there about 40 years), > Germany and Italy in Jan '72. I got a horrible chest cold in Munchen > (how do you make the : roll over?) lower case: Alt + 0252 ü Upper case: Alt + 0220 Ü http://www.starr.net/is/type/altnum.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yes this was Norbert. He was a big fan of an initiator who imagined > > himself having been Ernst Röhm, chief of the SA who was executed by > > Hitler later on. > > My understanding is that it was specifically Hermann Goering who > eliminated his rival Rohm, after (presumably) causing the Reichstag > fire and (certainly) exploiting it to eradicate "homeland" civil > rights in the name of "security". "I'm a uniter, not a divider. I refuse to play the politics of putting people into groups and pitting one group against another." George Bush, May 6, 1999 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] China 'is more popular' than US
America's image is still so tattered abroad after the Iraq war that China is viewed more favourably than the US in many countries, a global poll finds. Its image has not recovered in Western European countries, the US-based Pew Research Center found. In none of the 16 countries surveyed, the US included, does a majority of the public think the war leading to Saddam Hussein's removal made the world safer. But hostility towards the US has eased in some parts of the Muslim world. "It's amazing when you see the European public rating the United States so poorly, especially in comparison with China," said Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, which carried out the survey. China is well considered in Europe and Asia, although there is considerable wariness about its growing economic and military power. Solid majorities in every European nation except Turkey would not like to see China rival the US as a military superpower, the survey said. 'Hardworking' A majority of the public in 10 of the 15 countries surveyed holds unfavourable opinions of the US. President George W Bush's calls for greater democracy in the Middle East and US aid to tsunami victims in Asia have been welcomed in many countries. "We should keep plugging away on democracy," said former Senator John C Danforth, who co-chairs the Pew Global Attitudes Project with former US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. "But we need to do a better job of communicating what we're trying to do." However, the survey finds that America continues to be viewed as largely indifferent to the interests of other countries in setting its foreign policies. The US image remains relatively poor in Muslim countries like Jordan and Pakistan, but has bounced back in Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim country. In most countries surveyed, Americans are seen as "inventive" and "hardworking", but they are also seen by many in both Western and predominately Muslim countries as "violent" and "greedy" - a judgement with which many Americans agree. The survey was conducted among nearly 17,000 people from 20 April to 31 May with samples of about 1,000 in most countries, with more interviews in India and China and slightly fewer than 1,000 in the European countries. The margin of sampling error ranged from two percentage points to four percentage points, depending on the sample size. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4124164.stm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another pitch for $$. What a shock. This one even includes a little > guilt-tripping as well, just to make things interesting I guess. > > Interesting that the TMO, which rarely keeps its word on anything, > would use this approach. > > Sal > > On Jun 23, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > Many had pledged to support the Pandits once they were on their way, > > and we > > spent and borrowed to complete the campus assuming that those pledges > > would > > come in when we needed them. > > > > Now would be a good time to fulfill those pledges or give more than > > you had > > planned. Please go to > > http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/contribute/to > > make your contribution by credit card or automatic bank withdrawal. > > Or send > > a check to Global Country of World Peace, 1973 Grand Drive, Maharishi > > Vedic > > City, IA 52556. me thinks they left the 'l' off of 'Drive'... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: infinity to PointS (was the relative)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > pile of pig-dung? Which way is the wind blowing in Fairfield? > > Yes, FF has restored whole new olfactory chords and harmonic arpeggios > of redolent appreciation that my nose had quite forgotten. :-) you got me- I can't compete with such a plethoric infinitude of syllabic machinations! Aaargh- I'm forced to 'emoticon': =^) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Supreme Court rules cities may seize private homes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jim_flanegin wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>"A divided Supreme Court ruled Thursday that local governments may > >> > >> > >seize > > > > > >>people's homes and businesses against their will for private > >> > >> > >development > > > > > >>in a decision anxiously awaited in communities where economic > >> > >> > >growth > > > > > >>often > >>is at war with individual property rights. > >> > >> > >> > > > >"As a result, cities now have wide power to bulldoze residences for > > > > > >>projects such as shopping malls and hotel complexes in order to > >> > >> > >generate > > > > > >>tax revenue." > >> > >> > >> > >Yep, I'm noticing too that oil has hit $60 bbl., Bush is calling for > >more nuclear plants, and the Iraq war and mideast tension is > >escalating, just this week!? > > > >seems like those in power are grabbing for more and more, a tipping > >point is being reached. A fascinating drama- too close to call. > > > > > > > It's like waking up to find yourself in a bad science fiction movie in a > world run by demagogues. its weird- I was thinking today how more stuff happens in a week- like the list above- than each item would've been a news story for six months in years past(!) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes this was Norbert. He was a big fan of an initiator who imagined > himself having been Ernst Röhm, chief of the SA who was executed by > Hitler later on. My understanding is that it was specifically Hermann Goering who eliminated his rival Rohm, after (presumably) causing the Reichstag fire and (certainly) exploiting it to eradicate "homeland" civil rights in the name of "security". To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
Another pitch for $$. What a shock. This one even includes a little guilt-tripping as well, just to make things interesting I guess. Interesting that the TMO, which rarely keeps its word on anything, would use this approach. Sal On Jun 23, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Many had pledged to support the Pandits once they were on their way, and we spent and borrowed to complete the campus assuming that those pledges would come in when we needed them. Now would be a good time to fulfill those pledges or give more than you had planned. Please go to http://globalcountryofworldpeace.org/contribute/to make your contribution by credit card or automatic bank withdrawal. Or send a check to Global Country of World Peace, 1973 Grand Drive, Maharishi Vedic City, IA 52556.
[FairfieldLife] Re: infinity to PointS (was the relative)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pile of pig-dung? Which way is the wind blowing in Fairfield? Yes, FF has restored whole new olfactory chords and harmonic arpeggios of redolent appreciation that my nose had quite forgotten. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: "Interesting" allusion to Rgveda in the Giitaa?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes no reply elucidate far more thanks re the thought of you & the Gita. Just the thot of ew, my darrling, sends aiching pane all thru my bresst? (East Virginia? & ,well, uh, Danny!?) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Supreme Court rules cities may seize private homes
jim_flanegin wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>"A divided Supreme Court ruled Thursday that local governments may >> >> >seize > > >>people's homes and businesses against their will for private >> >> >development > > >>in a decision anxiously awaited in communities where economic >> >> >growth > > >>often >>is at war with individual property rights. >> >> >> > >"As a result, cities now have wide power to bulldoze residences for > > >>projects such as shopping malls and hotel complexes in order to >> >> >generate > > >>tax revenue." >> >> >> >Yep, I'm noticing too that oil has hit $60 bbl., Bush is calling for >more nuclear plants, and the Iraq war and mideast tension is >escalating, just this week!? > >seems like those in power are grabbing for more and more, a tipping >point is being reached. A fascinating drama- too close to call. > > > It's like waking up to find yourself in a bad science fiction movie in a world run by demagogues. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
> There's an old New Yorker cartoon that I loved. > It's at a typical NY cocktail party, two people > in the foreground are talking to each other. > Across the room is a guy with a kind of beatific > smile on his face and no one around him. One of > the guys in the foreground is saying to the other, > "Avoid that guy. He's just read a book that > changed his life." :-) > > Unc LOL To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
Back in the TM world, I used to like doing intro > lectures. I wound up giving a lot of advanced lectures > at centers and residence courses, but to be honest the > best thing I liked about them was not the prepared spiel > but the Q&A. I liked that process of being thrown a > question I had no canned answer for, and having an answer > come out anyway, distilled from 20 different things I'd > heard in 20 different situations but had never pulled > together before, and intuiting that it was an *OK* > answser. Real magic. > > Unc I'll bet you were good. You're a find crafter of the written word. I do better with the spoken ones (although I have been requested to "shut the hell up" on more than one occasion). With the "controversial" nature of Scientology, I get plenty of practice at the above (answering lots of q's). With varying results. We use a personality graph with 10 characteristics to spark our inquiry with new people regarding how Scientology might help them. One charactristic, when low on the graph, shows someone is unwilling to trust, usually as a result of having been screwed over in the past. They "push people away" as a defense mechanism. I dubbed it (in woman) "The Bitch Syndrome." I actually was getting away with it when the girls (many of whom are very low on this one)asked me what it meant (the actual trait is Lack of Accord) "Well, some people feel like you're a bitch" Worked 5 times. They looked at me and then we both laughed. Don't want to tell you what happened the 6th time. Suffice it to say, I don't do that anymore. :-) Would love to hear more about the Inquisiton lifetime. Will I have to read your book? Jeff To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I first got in to TM I was such a zealot that my friends would > start to roll their eyes whenever I came around. I finally got it > and stopped taliking about it. Yet, after a full year of consciously > not mentioning one word about TM to my family, I overheard my mother > tell a friend on the phone "Yeah, that's ALL Jeff ever talks about: > TM!" So maybe what you say is right. I exude whatever I believe in. There's an old New Yorker cartoon that I loved. It's at a typical NY cocktail party, two people in the foreground are talking to each other. Across the room is a guy with a kind of beatific smile on his face and no one around him. One of the guys in the foreground is saying to the other, "Avoid that guy. He's just read a book that changed his life." :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it Paradoxical.??
> > Okay, while we're at it. I've been lurking a little at alt.med. > Doesn't Willytex sound like a carpet fiber from Dupont? > > lurk Yeah. Or Willie Nelson's kid. Or guitar. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm just saying it because IMO it's good to get > feedback on that sorta thing from time to time. > Being able to express one's dharma in writing in > a way that reaches people intellectually is one > thing. Being able to express one's dharma in > writing in a way that enables the reader to > *feel* that dharma is something else. You have > that something else. > > Unc Nice of you to say. At times that intensity has gotten me in to trouble, but I do feel passionately about helping others. Scientology has helped me to see the other guys point of view better and grant him beingness. When I first got in to TM I was such a zealot that my friends would start to roll their eyes whenever I came around. I finally got it and stopped taliking about it. Yet, after a full year of consciously not mentioning one word about TM to my family, I overheard my mother tell a friend on the phone "Yeah, that's ALL Jeff ever talks about: TM!" So maybe what you say is right. I exude whatever I believe in. Jeff :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re1: OnWard Christian Soldiers
Yes a definite hate cite. Probably an Islamic one . I am sorry to say or suggest. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
> > Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you > > get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other- > > wise teach within the organization? > > Thanks. Yes, I'm an auditor and lecturer. I deal mostly with people > for whom it is all brand new. Cool. Back in the TM world, I used to like doing intro lectures. I wound up giving a lot of advanced lectures at centers and residence courses, but to be honest the best thing I liked about them was not the prepared spiel but the Q&A. I liked that process of being thrown a question I had no canned answer for, and having an answer come out anyway, distilled from 20 different things I'd heard in 20 different situations but had never pulled together before, and intuiting that it was an *OK* answser. Real magic. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] "Interesting" allusion to Rgveda in the Giitaa?
Yes no reply elucidate far more thanks re the thought of you & the Gita. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you > get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other- > wise teach within the organization? > > Unc Thanks. Yes, I'm an auditor and lecturer. I deal mostly with people for whom it is all brand new. Jeff To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Karl Rove/Cunning Master of Division...'
Karl Rove is a master of the old principle "Divide and Conquer". He's a master at framing any topic in terms of "Conservative and Liberal". Think of how numb we are, that every issue is defined red or blue? Are we all really that black and white? Or just sleep walking; Easily manipulated by fear and divisiveness? R. Gimbel Seattle, WA.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: He first was in Cologne and then went to Nuremberg > where I am from. Thanks for the update. Your English is incredibly gut. I studied German in gymnasium (FisCher) but all I really rememeber is Noch zwei, bitte when I wanted to order bier for my friend and I. I was in Switzerland (mein unkle has lived there about 40 years), Germany and Italy in Jan '72. I got a horrible chest cold in Munchen (how do you make the : roll over?) and my friend and I went to a spa. The sauna was coed with some beautiful, naked women. I got "overheated" and wanted to leave but my friend couldn't bear to miss it (Irishman, of course). They had just built the subway there for the upcoming Olympics. Being from New York, I couldn't believe how CLEAN it was. It didn't look real. The gravel was pristine, I kept staring at it through the glass like it was a museum. The subways were different, as you were supposed to get a ticket date/time stamped when you went in, but as no one seemed to be checking, we started to ride for free. On our last trip I had one last valid ticket and used it, but my friend didn't. On the ride we befriended a Turkish guy who spoke some English. As we were leaving he spotted a guy checking tickets. He was a real old guy with what looked like a WWII uniform. We tried to slip through but he grabbed my friend and me and the Turkish guy were pulling on one arm while the subway guard was screaming in German, tugging on the other. Finally, we broke him free and ran like hell. God, it makes me laugh. In Dusseldorf (need another rolling :), we went to a party and the host, when informed we were Americans said, "Well, How the Hell are ya'll" in the best Texas drawl I'd ever heard. Turns out he'd been an exchange student in some small Texas town. One day he was walking down the street with a 6 pack of beer in a bag and a Texas Ranger stopped him: "What ya'll got in the bag, boy?" He got hauled in as he was underage to drink. He had a bunch of German ID's in his wallet. He pulled them out and said "Officer, my father is the diplomatic attache to the German representative to the United Nations" and showed him the German ID's. "I just tell you this as it appears you want to arrest me and as I have shown you I have Diplomatic Immunity, I just don't want you to get in any trouble." Well the guy looks at the ID's and looks at the kid who's keeping a straight face like a champ. "Uh, well, OK" he said. "Get out of here." "But what about my beer?" the kid asks. "Oh, hell just take the beer and GET THE HELL OUT OF HEEH." Always wished I could have balls like that. Jeff To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: infinity to PointS (was the relative)
Both of these descriptions, which seem to be based on personal experiences, are very inspiring and reassuring. There is certainly an element there of non-attachment to the ego-point and a genuine sensitivity to other point-selves, whether or not the transcendental Knower in these examples can actually view the world as if from inside other person's nervous system, but that was just a theoretical interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---Also, in rising to GC the inner knower begins to feel expanding > love, or whatever you want to call it; but a feeling of flow from > infinity inside to any point outside. This relates to omniscience in > that the flow of this inner field of awareness, spontaneously, knows > or is drawn to the particular point of interest. > Really in any situation of lack; it is lack of love, lack of > passion, and now, when pure consiousness is established, and all ego > based fear dissolved, there's nothing left to do, but "watch" the > absolute "move"... > > > In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > -Before enlightenment, the world we perceive is "of, by and for > the > > ego. Everything is seen and translated in terms of this point, > this > > sense of me(the ego). > > After enlightenment is acheived one steps out of identifying with > > this point, this sense of me(the ego). > > One is no longer indentified with a point, this tiny sense of me > > (the ego), but becomes identified with the origin of any point in > > pure awareness, the Absolute. > > One can become aware of any point,any side of any issue; no longer > > guided by a single perspective(ego based), totally limiting view... > > So, the next step is allowing the pure consciousness to "flow > within > > itself to the point, then to the next point, all point guided now, > > not by ego, but by pure intelligence. Any "problem" is seen as > just > > energy, which needs balance and recieves balance spontaneously, > from > > point to point. > > In other words, an enlightened person, detatched perceives from > the > > state of being, and in that silence, brings forth the opposite > > energy to perfectly balance, thereby always, percieving the Unity, > > in diversity; as being established in pure consiousness, silence, > > always provides the Unifying factor, always... > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Supreme Court rules cities may seize private homes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "A divided Supreme Court ruled Thursday that local governments may seize > people's homes and businesses against their will for private development > in a decision anxiously awaited in communities where economic growth > often > is at war with individual property rights. > "As a result, cities now have wide power to bulldoze residences for > projects such as shopping malls and hotel complexes in order to generate > tax revenue." > Yep, I'm noticing too that oil has hit $60 bbl., Bush is calling for more nuclear plants, and the Iraq war and mideast tension is escalating, just this week!? seems like those in power are grabbing for more and more, a tipping point is being reached. A fascinating drama- too close to call. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it Paradoxical.??
> > And I'm down with this. I've always had kind of a > > giggly reaction to that word, shaktipat. It always > > sounded to me like the name of some Newage Tantric > > Massage technique. :-) > > Okay, while we're at it. I've been lurking a little at alt.med. > Doesn't Willytex sound like a carpet fiber from Dupont? I love the guy during the rare times when I can get him to talk about something he really likes, like ZZ Top, but I have to admit that some of his posts sound like he's been *smoking* carpet fibers from Dupont. :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it Paradoxical.??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, Muktinanda proves one thing. He gave great shaktipat. > > Now that's funny, Llun. > > And I'm down with this. I've always had kind of a > giggly reaction to that word, shaktipat. It always > sounded to me like the name of some Newage Tantric > Massage technique. :-) > > Unc Okay, while we're at it. I've been lurking a little at alt.med. Doesn't Willytex sound like a carpet fiber from Dupont? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >snip > > Do you remember a German guy named Norbert from that course? > > Yes, Norbert Weiss from cologne. He was quite a character Do you know Walter Schemper. Was on Vittel TTC around '75 or'76. Blondish Hair, Blue Eyes. Very German, or maybe he was Austrian. Kinda of a star among the German contingent on that course. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh shit, aren't you the guy who hates everything I say? Now what am > I gonna do? > > Nothing. And with style. Makes all the difference. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My thanks as well. You explain Scientology very clearly > > and with feeling. The feeling comes through. > > Aw shucks, Unc I'm just saying it because IMO it's good to get feedback on that sorta thing from time to time. Being able to express one's dharma in writing in a way that reaches people intellectually is one thing. Being able to express one's dharma in writing in a way that enables the reader to *feel* that dharma is something else. You have that something else. Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is it Paradoxical.??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, Muktinanda proves one thing. He gave great shaktipat. Now that's funny, Llun. And I'm down with this. I've always had kind of a giggly reaction to that word, shaktipat. It always sounded to me like the name of some Newage Tantric Massage technique. :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh shit, aren't you the guy who hates everything I say? Now what am I gonna do? Nothing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I guess in not being overshadowed by the experience, i.e. just > > being the witness? > > In a sense, yes. A goal of Scientology is to be stably "exterior" > which would be the equivalent of witnessing 24/7. As you continue > to go over the experience you go up the "tone scale" (EG below) > >Enthusiasm >Cheerful >Boredom >Antagonism >Anger >Fear >Grief >Apathy > > As you go up the scale, you are gradiently becoming more "exterior" > to the event until you are looking at it (witnessing) instead of > being "in it." That's how the auditor knows when you're done with > it. Very nicely said. You're good at this, Jeff. Do you get a chance to perform auditing yourself, or other- wise teach within the organization? Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Vedic Scholars/pandits
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > > I wanted to let everyone know who has been supporting the Vedic > > Scholar project this past year that the Vedic Scholars will be > > coming immediately! > > All I can say is that I certainly hope so. And I > honestly hope that it has exactly the effect on > planet Earth that Maharishi predicts. But I'm > tellin' you...if Vedic America talks the way that > Raja Wynne does, I'm on the first consumer > spaceflight offa this rock. :-) You could probably save a lot of money by catching the next flight from a submerged Russian submarine in the Barents Sea. Alex To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Scientology, the "stresses" (engrams) are not located physically. > When one "dramatizes" the earlier event, one will reexperience the > physical pain associated with it. Got your head chopped in the > French Revolution (like my dear wife)? Dramatization of extreme neck > discomfort until that incident is "run out." One reason I'm here doing research for a historical novel about the Cathars is that I have memories of having been there, done that. Some of the memories have to do with being on the losing end of a disa- greement with the Inquisition, and winding up in the torture chambers of the Papal Palace in Avignon. I think I'm gonna pass on auditing for a while...I've got all the drama in my life I can handle... :-) Unc To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] A Sense of Sangha (was Re: balancing techniques)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My > > notes say: (translated from german): 'The quality of the stress > > determines the quality of thought.' > > > > Then it gives the example I just had given, of the joy causing a > > stress in the past, and how the mind picks up the feeling and > > associates it with the coming of a friend. Whatever it associates it > > with is not important, obviously, it's arbitrary. > > > > My course was in July 1977, Avoriaz. > > I was at the same Avoriaz course and I remember it as you state here. > Do you remember a German guy named Norbert from that course? Yes, Norbert Weiss from cologne. He was quite a character. He went to International later, and did some Sidha-land activity in Macau. He was quite close to MMY at one point, but was also frequently outgoing at that time. When the Purusha project came along, he wanted to join it, bt MMY explained to him that it wasn't necessary for him. He went back to Cologne and then I lost contact. > It's > the only German name I remember from the course, although I do > remember spending an evening with several Germans who were telling me > that Hitler (as this is not an "argument" I hope this won't degrade > my story) was very spiritual in the beginning - People coming up to > him and giving him flowers, etc. Yes this was Norbert. He was a big fan of an initiator who imagined himself having been Ernst Röhm, chief of the SA who was executed by Hitler later on. > They were very forceful in there > arguments, but it was too much for me to buy. Sure. He had all these weird theories. But he was very forceful, sort of a leader type. We were friends and hanging out a lot together. We were also at phase one together. We laughed a lot together. We also had one TM teacher we both adored, who was essential for our initial TM experience. He first was in Cologne and then went to Nuremberg where I am from. > > TM (like scientology) assumes that the stresses are located > > physically. Thats not the same with the samskara theory. > > In Scientology, the "stresses" (engrams) are not located physically. > When one "dramatizes" the earlier event, one will reexperience the > physical pain associated with it. Got your head chopped in the > French Revolution (like my dear wife)? Dramatization of extreme neck > discomfort until that incident is "run out." I see, thank you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: infinity to PointS (was the relative)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I had to read this many times to understand it: > > > > the first time, I understood it intuitively, perhaps the *sound* > and construction of it was balanced. > > > > the second time I tried to interpret it in terms of some imagined > > nebulous 'higher state of consciousness'/hidden meaning, and it > made no sense to me. > > > > the third time, I read it as a simple person, potentially in > > need: 'we keep to ourselves unless we have a need to interact with > > someone else. When we interact with someone else to fulfill our > > need, we will experience them just to the degree that we must, in > > order to fulfill our need.' > > > > the fourth time, I read what was written in terms of unobstructed > > flow of pure consciousness, eliminating the imaginary boundaries > > between the Ocean and the waves, between I and them. > > > > I conclude by enjoying the simplicity of it all, wondering why I > > have once again used a bulldozer to remove a toothpick, and > delight > > in the absurdity of it all! > > > > Thank you! > > LOL Thanks, Jim. I was wondering why that point-self gobbledygook > came out the way it did. You really made a very nice cake out of my > pile of pig-dung! Always nice to be appreciated from every angle! > Yours always, :-) :-) :-D pile of pig-dung? Which way is the wind blowing in Fairfield? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
