[FairfieldLife] Re: Being overweight may give longer life expectancy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --A lot depends on what type of fats people are eating, regardless of > weight; i.e. transfats, and/or highly processed oils as consumed > widely in India and used as cooking oils. Bad news for their health! > * Interestingly, butter, which is regarded as good for the heart in Ayurveda, contains some transfats. I'm sure, however, that these natural transfats are better than the hydrogenated oils which the chemists have come up with: "Very occasionally, trans fats do occur in nature. The most commonly known is conjugated linoleic acid (CLA). Unlike its synthetic counterparts, CLA is known to have many health benefits, however, these benefits are not in any way shared with the synthetic trans fats produced during hydrogenation. http://www.natural-health-information-centre.com/trans-fats.html > > > - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: > > > > "...there were more than 100,000 fewer deaths among the overweight > in > > 2004, the most recent year for which data were available, than > would > > have expected if those people had been of normal weight. > > > > The researchers also confirmed that obese people and people whose > > weights are below normal have higher death rates than people of > > normal weight. But, when they asked why, they found that the > reasons > > were different for the different weight categories. > > > > ... > > > > "If we use the criteria of mortality, then the term `overweight' is > a > > misnomer," said Daniel McGee, professor of statistics at Florida > > State University. > > > > "I believe the data," said Dr. Elizabeth Barrett-Connor, a > professor > > of family and preventive medicine at the University of California, > > San Diego. A body mass index of 25 to 30, the so-called overweight > > range, "may be optimal," she said. > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/health/07fat.html > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Being overweight may give longer life expectancy
--A lot depends on what type of fats people are eating, regardless of weight; i.e. transfats, and/or highly processed oils as consumed widely in India and used as cooking oils. Bad news for their health! - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "...there were more than 100,000 fewer deaths among the overweight in > 2004, the most recent year for which data were available, than would > have expected if those people had been of normal weight. > > The researchers also confirmed that obese people and people whose > weights are below normal have higher death rates than people of > normal weight. But, when they asked why, they found that the reasons > were different for the different weight categories. > > ... > > "If we use the criteria of mortality, then the term `overweight' is a > misnomer," said Daniel McGee, professor of statistics at Florida > State University. > > "I believe the data," said Dr. Elizabeth Barrett-Connor, a professor > of family and preventive medicine at the University of California, > San Diego. A body mass index of 25 to 30, the so-called overweight > range, "may be optimal," she said. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/health/07fat.html >
[FairfieldLife] Being overweight may give longer life expectancy
"...there were more than 100,000 fewer deaths among the overweight in 2004, the most recent year for which data were available, than would have expected if those people had been of normal weight. The researchers also confirmed that obese people and people whose weights are below normal have higher death rates than people of normal weight. But, when they asked why, they found that the reasons were different for the different weight categories. ... "If we use the criteria of mortality, then the term `overweight' is a misnomer," said Daniel McGee, professor of statistics at Florida State University. "I believe the data," said Dr. Elizabeth Barrett-Connor, a professor of family and preventive medicine at the University of California, San Diego. A body mass index of 25 to 30, the so-called overweight range, "may be optimal," she said. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/health/07fat.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Newfound Planet Could Support Life As We Know It
2007-11-06
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
You bet, Peter. Republicans probably have 1st dibs on this and similar planets, their "Haven/Heaven" on a "New Earth" where their predation can continue to run amock as if it's god's will, after they've lifted themselves from Earth in a pseudo-rapture after pillaging the planet and leaving humans behind to wallow in the consequences of their toxic waste, they having been more chosen than real humans, but only by god, of course. *Of all that anyone leading or teaching has to convey, * *the most valuable thing to cultivate and convey to others is * *a moral conscience. Only such persons deserve to lead others, * *in any capacity. Anything less is a menace to society.* On 11/6/07, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeehaa! Let's go there and f*ck it up! > > --- "Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! > -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ** > > *Newfound Planet Could Support Life As We Know It* > > > > > > NASA / JPL-Caltech > > This artist's conception shows four of the five > > planets that orbit 55 > > Cancri, a star > > much like our own. The most recently discovered > > planet looms large in the > > foreground. The colors of the planets were chosen to > > resemble those of our > > own > > solar system. Astronomers do not know what the > > planets actually look like. > > -- > > > > Planet-hunters say they have detected a giant world > > that > > is nestled among four others in a planetary system > > 41 > > light-years from Earth. This newfound world is in > > the > > "Goldilocks zone" - a place that's not too hot, not > > too > > cold, but just right for the existence of liquid > > water > > and conceivably life. > > > > The fresh discovery, announced today during a NASA > > teleconference, focuses on a star and planetary > > system > > called 55 Cancri, in the constellation Cancer. The > > system is already well-known to astronomers who > > search > > for the telltale signs of planets beyond our own > > solar > > system - but the newly detected planet has taken the > > search to a new level. > > > > "We're announcing the discovery of the first > > quintuple-planet system," Debra Fischer, an > > astronomer > > at San Francisco State University and lead author of > > a > > paper due to appear in the Astrophysical Journal, > > told > > reporters. > > > > Geoff Marcy, a pioneer planet-hunter from the > > University of California at Berkeley who contributed > > to > > the paper, said the planetary system is a > > "souped-up" > > version of our own. Like our own solar system, these > > planets make nearly circular orbits around the > > parent > > star - but they're super-sized. > > The innermost planet is about the size of Neptune > > and > > whips around the parent star in less than three > > days, > > at a distance of about 3.5 million miles. The > > farthest-out planet is four times as massive as > > Jupiter > > and takes 14 Earth years to orbit, at a distance of > > about 539 million miles - or just a little farther > > out > > than our solar system's Jupiter. > > > > > > NASA / JPL-Caltech > > This diagram shows the 55 Cancri system at top and > > our own solar system > > at bottom. In each view, the "habitable zone" is > > marked as a green band. > > -- > > MORE HERE: > > > http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/06/451256.aspx
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch to launch 3 new Universities
The concept of "economies of scale" doesn't seem to resonate for the TMO. Why have one university with, say, 2,000 students when you can have 500 universities with 4 students each? You see, the more universities you found, obviously the more important the knowledge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > DAVID LYNCH TO LAUNCH NEW UNIVERSITIES FOR NATIONAL INVINCIBILITY > > > INVINCIBLE FINLAND UNIVERSITY > Finland contact: Dr Hannu Heikkilä +358 40 5423 423 > Estonia contact: Dr Jaan Suurkula +372 688 2758 > Bulgaria contact: Dr Donka Hodjeva +359 887 919780 or +359 2981 8553 > > > PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > Filmmaker David Lynch to launch new universities in > Finland, Estonia, and Bulgaria to create national invincibility > Flag-raising ceremonies to be held 5-9 November for > Invincible Finland University, Invincible Estonia University, > and Invincible Bulgaria University > "These unique universities will offer enlightenment to every student > and invincibility to the nation." -- David Lynch > > Helsinki, 5 November 2007: > This week, iconic filmmaker Dr David Lynch will launch new national > universities in Finland, Estonia, and Bulgaria, which will provide Total > Knowledge -- full enlightenment -- to every student and invincibility to > national consciousness. > > Dr Lynch will be joined by world-renowned quantum physicist, Dr John > Hagelin, President of Maharishi Central University, USA, and Director of > the Global Union of Scientists for Peace; and by foremost educator, Dr > Bevan Morris, President of Maharishi University of Management, Iowa, > USA. > > Dr Lynch, Dr Hagelin, and Dr Morris will launch Invincible Finland > University, Invincible Estonia University, and Invincible Bulgaria > University with flag-raising ceremonies, press conferences, and public > lectures. They will be accompanied by leading local scientists, > educators, and business leaders. > > The three-nation Invincible University launch follows similar > inaugurations in the past month in Italy, Israel, Ireland, Northern > Ireland, England, Scotland, Belgium, France, and Denmark. Classes are > scheduled to being in all of the new universities on 12 January 2008. > > "There is very strong support in every country to establish these > new universities where the students will gain enlightenment and radiate > peace in the world on a permanent basis," Dr Lynch said. > > According to Dr Hagelin, the programme of study at the new universities > will include the traditional academic disciplines, with a few minutes > added to each class to identify the source of the discipline in the > Unified Field, as discovered in the most advanced findings of modern > science. Students will utilise proven technologies of consciousness to > gain direct subjective experience of the Unified Field. > > "Extensive scientific research shows that this experience of the > Unified Field leads to the development of total brain functioning, > increased intelligence and creativity, better behaviour, and a marked > improvement in the trends of life in society as a whole -- ultimately > creating a state of national invincibility where no negativity or > conflicts can arise within the nation nor penetrate it from > outside," Dr Hagelin said. > > Dr Morris has already applied this Unified Field-based approach with > great success at his own award-winning University -- Maharishi > University of Management -- which was established 35 years ago in the > USA and now has students from 60 countries > > "The value of this Total Knowledge-based approach to education > cannot be overestimated, because the unfoldment of infinite creativity > through Total Knowledge is the basis to fulfil all desires and realise > all possibilities in daily life," Dr Morris said. > > The goal of the Invincible Universities, Dr Lynch said, will be to > promote the common good and raise every country to invincibility. > "An invincible nation will be prosperous, healthy, and problem-free, > with a nourishing peace-creating role in the family of nations." > > > > > In the past two years, the David Lynch Foundation for > Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace has provided millions of > dollars in grants for in-school Transcendental Meditation programmes for > tens of thousands of students in the USA, Latin America, and Africa. The > wide-ranging benefits of the Transcendental Meditation programme for > students and teachers have been documented by more than 600 scientific > studies conducted over the past 40 years at 250 independent research > institutions and universities in 33 countries. > > David Lynch's US best-seller, Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, > Consciousness, and Creativity, was published in January 2007. > > www.DavidLynchFoundation.org >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Many States Seen Facing Water Shortages -- Demonstrating A Global Problem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Yawn. > > > > Canada has 80% of the world's fresh water. > > > > Lacking some? Your closest ally and best trading partner has more > > than enough. > > > > Let's start building those aqueducts now. > > > > > > Well close, You are only off by a factor of 10. I'm curious as to why I am off by so much. I know I've seen the 80% stat and I don't think I would have remembered it if weren't the amazing figure that it is. Perhaps "landmass" doesn't include the ice of the north. Anyway, I've flown over northern Quebec and it is basically lakes with a little land in between them. As for the southwest, that's where I live and, yes, water is a consideration here. I hope they are planning for the future now. > Still, water is going > to be a huge issue in the next 10-50 years. New water supplies in > Nevada are selling for $80,000 per acre foot. Its wild. Without vast > improved water policy, technology and conservation/efficiency, much or > the west could dry up and blow away. See second article -- its long -- > but eye opening. > > > -- > > Canada says: "Canada is one of the most fortunate nations when it > comes to available freshwater: Canada has only 0.5% of the world's > population, but its landmass contains approximately 9% of the world's > renewable water supply (i.e. water replenished by precipitation on a > short-term basis). Tables 1 and 2 below show the earth's salt water > and freshwater stocks." > > http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/freshwater/1 > > > === > > Water an the Western States > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/magazine/21water-t.html >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Many States Seen Facing Water Shortages -- Demonstrating A Global Problem
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yawn. > > Canada has 80% of the world's fresh water. > > Lacking some? Your closest ally and best trading partner has more > than enough. > > Let's start building those aqueducts now. > > Well close, You are only off by a factor of 10. Still, water is going to be a huge issue in the next 10-50 years. New water supplies in Nevada are selling for $80,000 per acre foot. Its wild. Without vast improved water policy, technology and conservation/efficiency, much or the west could dry up and blow away. See second article -- its long -- but eye opening. -- Canada says: "Canada is one of the most fortunate nations when it comes to available freshwater: Canada has only 0.5% of the world's population, but its landmass contains approximately 9% of the world's renewable water supply (i.e. water replenished by precipitation on a short-term basis). Tables 1 and 2 below show the earth's salt water and freshwater stocks." http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/english/maps/freshwater/1 === Water an the Western States http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/magazine/21water-t.html
[FairfieldLife] India, barreling ahead --from Fortune
October 31, 2007 India, barreling ahead The predominant impression I've had so far at this year's Fortune Global Forum in Delhi is of India's profound and overwhelming confidence. Whether it's tooling around in one of the death-defying auto-rickshaws that will take you anywhere for 10 rupees (about 25 cents), or listening to government ministers on the podium, everywhere I look I see signs that India is barreling ahead. No longer does India look at the US with one bit of envy. Indians are polite and ever-gracious in welcoming us here, but they see their country as just starting to take advantage of its extraordinary natural and human resources. This is why Prime Minister Singh at the Forum's opening session said, among other things, that India "accepts its global obligation" to ensure that its per capita carbon emissions "will never exceed those of developed countries." What he means is "we will reduce ours if you reduce yours, but in the meantime we are going to make this country great." We're not going to let ourselves get bogged down trying to be more conscientious than the United States can make itself when it comes to pollution. We are going to fulfill our destiny. Similarly, when Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit last night at the gala dinner said that Delhi is "just getting started" she was not just being polite. The Hindustan Times, delivered every mforning to my hotel door, has been crowing daily about the Indian Sensex stock market index having this week surmounted 20,000not long after it hit 10,000. People hereincluding both newspaper columnists and the fully-invested manager of the hotel restaurant who so graciously and confidently engages guests in conversation at breakfasthave no doubt that the Sensex will soon hit 40,000. Those you meet, even the ones driving those auto-rickshaws, are surprisingly informed, often shockingly well-educated, and tolerant of India's foibles. Yes, unlicensed scrawny dogs scamper everywhere in Delhi (even into the government compound after the PM's speech the other night). Yes, the air has this week frequently been filled with a stinky smokey smog more foul than anything you'd ever see in the US (it's more like Beijing). And certainly there are shockingly poor people on every street. But there is a reason why Cisco (CSCO) is moving up to half its global executive population to Bangalore. There is a reason why, on a panel I moderated the other day, top executives of Hewlett-Packard (HPQ), General Electric (GE), and Adobe (ADBE) said that an increasing amount of the best work in R&D throughout their company is being done here in India. The entrepreneurial impulse of Indians is seen everywhere from the podium where United Breweries Chairman Vijay Mallya calmly explains his ambitions to take his company to the heights of the global spirits market, to the 1am seemingly-deserted street where four guys jump up from the shadows not to mug me but to try to sell me a Pepsi, even though they had been sleeping India, and Indians, aspire to do great things. And they are showing that they can. We may not see it yet, but they do. October 31, 2007 Indian Women Rising By Patricia Sellers, Fortune editor at large As India rises, so do its women - despite the barriers. Here in the world's largest democracy, women in business face a vast array of challenges: patriarchal attitudes (fathers and husbands, particularly in arranged marriages, who disapprove of work outside the home), gender bias in the workplace, sexual harassment. Those realities make the glass ceilings here thicker and sturdier than those in America. But as we've learned at the Fortune Global Forum in New Delhi, this vibrant and chaotic democracy is empowering women to crack those ceilings. Though only 30% of the Indian workforce is female (by some measures - in fact, no one knows for sure) and just a sliver of management is female, corporate women are gaining clout across India, especially in the rapidly expanding IT sector. Women are driving the capital markets as well. Manisha Girotra chairs UBS India. Naina Lai Kidwai runs HSBC India. She's a Harvard MBA who returned home to help fund the buoyant expansion here, where GDP is growing 8.5% annually. This is also fertile ground for female entrepreneurs. Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw started and chairs Biocon, India's largest biotech company. She ranks 50 on Fortune's international Most Powerful Women list. Also attending the Global Forum is an enterprising woman named Archana Surana, who recently participated in the Fortune/U.S. State Department International Women Leaders Mentoring Partnership, an offshoot of the Fortune Most Powerful Women Summit. Surana runs Arch Academy of Fashion, Art, Design in Jaipur. She started the university seven years ago and now graduates 200 students annually. An apparel exporter as well, Surana says, "I've learned that every woman individually can make a difference." India's firms outpace China's in the race to `go globa
[FairfieldLife] Re: Many States Seen Facing Water Shortages -- Demonstrating A Global Problem
Yawn. Canada has 80% of the world's fresh water. Lacking some? Your closest ally and best trading partner has more than enough. Let's start building those aqueducts now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *Many States Seen Facing Water Shortages -- Demonstrating A Global Problem* > > By BRIAN SKOLOFF, Associated Press Writer > > WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - An epic drought in Georgia > threatens the water supply for millions. Florida > doesn't have nearly enough water for its expected > population boom. The Great Lakes are shrinking. Upstate > New York's reservoirs have dropped to record lows. And > in the West, the Sierra Nevada snowpack is melting > faster each year. Across America, the picture is > critically clear the nation's freshwater supplies can > no longer quench its thirst. > > The government projects that at least 36 states will > face water shortages within five years because of a > combination of rising temperatures, drought, population > growth, urban sprawl, waste and excess. > > "Is it a crisis? If we don't do some decent water > planning, it could be," said Jack Hoffbuhr, executive > director of the Denver-based American Water Works > Association. > > Water managers will need to take bold steps to keep > taps flowing, including conservation, recycling, > desalination and stricter controls on development. > > "We've hit a remarkable moment," said Barry Nelson, a > senior policy analyst with the Natural Resources > Defense Council. "The last century was the century of > water engineering. The next century is going to have to > be the century of water efficiency." > > The price tag for ensuring a reliable water supply > could be staggering. Experts estimate that just > upgrading pipes to handle new supplies could cost the > nation $300 billion over 30 years. > > "Unfortunately, there's just not going to be any more > cheap water," said Randy Brown, Pompano Beach's > utilities director. > > It's not just America's problem it's global. > > Australia is in the midst of a 30-year dry spell, and > population growth in urban centers of sub-Saharan > Africa is straining resources. Asia has 60 percent of > the world's population, but only about 30 percent of > its freshwater. > > The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United > Nations network of scientists, said this year that by > 2050 up to 2 billion people worldwide could be facing > major water shortages. > > The U.S. used more than 148 trillion gallons of water > in 2000, the latest figures available from the U.S. > Geological Survey. That includes residential, > commercial, agriculture, manufacturing and every other > use almost 500,000 gallons per person. > > Coastal states like Florida and California face a water > crisis not only from increased demand, but also from > rising temperatures that are causing glaciers to melt > and sea levels to rise. Higher temperatures mean more > water lost to evaporation. And rising seas could push > saltwater into underground sources of freshwater. > > Florida represents perhaps the nation's greatest water > irony. A hundred years ago, the state's biggest problem > was it had too much water. But decades of dikes, dams > and water diversions have turned swamps into cities. > > Little land is left to store water during wet seasons, > and so much of the landscape has been paved over that > water can no longer penetrate the ground in some places > to recharge aquifers. As a result, the state is forced > to flush millions of gallons of excess into the ocean > to prevent flooding. > > Also, the state dumps hundreds of billions of gallons a > year of treated wastewater into the Atlantic through > pipes water that could otherwise be used for > irrigation. > > Florida's environmental chief, Michael Sole, is seeking > legislative action to get municipalities to reuse the > wastewater. > > "As these communities grow, instead of developing new > water with new treatment systems, why not better manage > the commodity they already have and produce an > environmental benefit at the same time?" Sole said. > > Florida leads the nation in water reuse by reclaiming > some 240 billion gallons annually, but it is not nearly > enough, Sole said. > > Floridians use about 2.4 trillion gallons of water a > year. The state projects that by 2025, the population > will have increased 34 percent from about 18 million to > more than 24 million people, pushing annual demand for > water to nearly 3.3 trillion gallons. > > More than half of the state's expected population boom > is projected in a three-county area that includes > Miami, Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach, where water use > is already about 1.5 trillion gallons a year. > > "We just passed a crossroads. The chief water sources > are basically gone," said John Mulliken, director of > water supply for the South F
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch to launch 3 new Universities
DAVID LYNCH TO LAUNCH NEW UNIVERSITIES FOR NATIONAL INVINCIBILITY INVINCIBLE FINLAND UNIVERSITY Finland contact: Dr Hannu Heikkilä +358 40 5423 423 Estonia contact: Dr Jaan Suurkula +372 688 2758 Bulgaria contact: Dr Donka Hodjeva +359 887 919780 or +359 2981 8553 PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Filmmaker David Lynch to launch new universities in Finland, Estonia, and Bulgaria to create national invincibility Flag-raising ceremonies to be held 5-9 November for Invincible Finland University, Invincible Estonia University, and Invincible Bulgaria University "These unique universities will offer enlightenment to every student and invincibility to the nation." -- David Lynch Helsinki, 5 November 2007: This week, iconic filmmaker Dr David Lynch will launch new national universities in Finland, Estonia, and Bulgaria, which will provide Total Knowledge -- full enlightenment -- to every student and invincibility to national consciousness. Dr Lynch will be joined by world-renowned quantum physicist, Dr John Hagelin, President of Maharishi Central University, USA, and Director of the Global Union of Scientists for Peace; and by foremost educator, Dr Bevan Morris, President of Maharishi University of Management, Iowa, USA. Dr Lynch, Dr Hagelin, and Dr Morris will launch Invincible Finland University, Invincible Estonia University, and Invincible Bulgaria University with flag-raising ceremonies, press conferences, and public lectures. They will be accompanied by leading local scientists, educators, and business leaders. The three-nation Invincible University launch follows similar inaugurations in the past month in Italy, Israel, Ireland, Northern Ireland, England, Scotland, Belgium, France, and Denmark. Classes are scheduled to being in all of the new universities on 12 January 2008. "There is very strong support in every country to establish these new universities where the students will gain enlightenment and radiate peace in the world on a permanent basis," Dr Lynch said. According to Dr Hagelin, the programme of study at the new universities will include the traditional academic disciplines, with a few minutes added to each class to identify the source of the discipline in the Unified Field, as discovered in the most advanced findings of modern science. Students will utilise proven technologies of consciousness to gain direct subjective experience of the Unified Field. "Extensive scientific research shows that this experience of the Unified Field leads to the development of total brain functioning, increased intelligence and creativity, better behaviour, and a marked improvement in the trends of life in society as a whole -- ultimately creating a state of national invincibility where no negativity or conflicts can arise within the nation nor penetrate it from outside," Dr Hagelin said. Dr Morris has already applied this Unified Field-based approach with great success at his own award-winning University -- Maharishi University of Management -- which was established 35 years ago in the USA and now has students from 60 countries "The value of this Total Knowledge-based approach to education cannot be overestimated, because the unfoldment of infinite creativity through Total Knowledge is the basis to fulfil all desires and realise all possibilities in daily life," Dr Morris said. The goal of the Invincible Universities, Dr Lynch said, will be to promote the common good and raise every country to invincibility. "An invincible nation will be prosperous, healthy, and problem-free, with a nourishing peace-creating role in the family of nations." > In the past two years, the David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace has provided millions of dollars in grants for in-school Transcendental Meditation programmes for tens of thousands of students in the USA, Latin America, and Africa. The wide-ranging benefits of the Transcendental Meditation programme for students and teachers have been documented by more than 600 scientific studies conducted over the past 40 years at 250 independent research institutions and universities in 33 countries. David Lynch's US best-seller, Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, Consciousness, and Creativity, was published in January 2007. www.DavidLynchFoundation.org
Re: [FairfieldLife] Newfound Planet Could Support Life As We Know It
Yeehaa! Let's go there and f*ck it up! --- "Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ** > *Newfound Planet Could Support Life As We Know It* > > > NASA / JPL-Caltech > This artist's conception shows four of the five > planets that orbit 55 > Cancri, a star > much like our own. The most recently discovered > planet looms large in the > foreground. The colors of the planets were chosen to > resemble those of our > own > solar system. Astronomers do not know what the > planets actually look like. > -- > > Planet-hunters say they have detected a giant world > that > is nestled among four others in a planetary system > 41 > light-years from Earth. This newfound world is in > the > "Goldilocks zone" - a place that's not too hot, not > too > cold, but just right for the existence of liquid > water > and conceivably life. > > The fresh discovery, announced today during a NASA > teleconference, focuses on a star and planetary > system > called 55 Cancri, in the constellation Cancer. The > system is already well-known to astronomers who > search > for the telltale signs of planets beyond our own > solar > system - but the newly detected planet has taken the > search to a new level. > > "We're announcing the discovery of the first > quintuple-planet system," Debra Fischer, an > astronomer > at San Francisco State University and lead author of > a > paper due to appear in the Astrophysical Journal, > told > reporters. > > Geoff Marcy, a pioneer planet-hunter from the > University of California at Berkeley who contributed > to > the paper, said the planetary system is a > "souped-up" > version of our own. Like our own solar system, these > planets make nearly circular orbits around the > parent > star - but they're super-sized. > The innermost planet is about the size of Neptune > and > whips around the parent star in less than three > days, > at a distance of about 3.5 million miles. The > farthest-out planet is four times as massive as > Jupiter > and takes 14 Earth years to orbit, at a distance of > about 539 million miles - or just a little farther > out > than our solar system's Jupiter. > > > NASA / JPL-Caltech > This diagram shows the 55 Cancri system at top and > our own solar system > at bottom. In each view, the "habitable zone" is > marked as a green band. > -- > MORE HERE: > http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/06/451256.aspx > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > Frankly, Rory, you > > don't interest me much. > > On this, at least, we are in full agreement :-) ...and if you can refrain from bringing up my name here, I can probably refrain from boring you any further. So long, and good luck with your pursuit of virtues! *L*L*L*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Frankly, Rory, you > don't interest me much. On this, at least, we are in full agreement :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Like I said, "You both come off as flippant smart asses, particularly > it seems when you're criticized." I'll add to that that indeed you DO > condescendingly suggest that you are 'enlightened' by implying that > you know the "inconveyable" and were unable to convey it. Arrogance is > another characteristic that's showing in your rhetoric. If that's an > example of your 'enlightenment' then I'll gladly say that you're > 'enlightenment' is about as valuable as shit for lunch. Excellent! I'm glad we understand each other :-)
[FairfieldLife] Many States Seen Facing Water Shortages -- Demonstrating A Global Problem
2007-11-06
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
*Many States Seen Facing Water Shortages -- Demonstrating A Global Problem* By BRIAN SKOLOFF, Associated Press Writer WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - An epic drought in Georgia threatens the water supply for millions. Florida doesn't have nearly enough water for its expected population boom. The Great Lakes are shrinking. Upstate New York's reservoirs have dropped to record lows. And in the West, the Sierra Nevada snowpack is melting faster each year. Across America, the picture is critically clear — the nation's freshwater supplies can no longer quench its thirst. The government projects that at least 36 states will face water shortages within five years because of a combination of rising temperatures, drought, population growth, urban sprawl, waste and excess. "Is it a crisis? If we don't do some decent water planning, it could be," said Jack Hoffbuhr, executive director of the Denver-based American Water Works Association. Water managers will need to take bold steps to keep taps flowing, including conservation, recycling, desalination and stricter controls on development. "We've hit a remarkable moment," said Barry Nelson, a senior policy analyst with the Natural Resources Defense Council. "The last century was the century of water engineering. The next century is going to have to be the century of water efficiency." The price tag for ensuring a reliable water supply could be staggering. Experts estimate that just upgrading pipes to handle new supplies could cost the nation $300 billion over 30 years. "Unfortunately, there's just not going to be any more cheap water," said Randy Brown, Pompano Beach's utilities director. It's not just America's problem — it's global. Australia is in the midst of a 30-year dry spell, and population growth in urban centers of sub-Saharan Africa is straining resources. Asia has 60 percent of the world's population, but only about 30 percent of its freshwater. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations network of scientists, said this year that by 2050 up to 2 billion people worldwide could be facing major water shortages. The U.S. used more than 148 trillion gallons of water in 2000, the latest figures available from the U.S. Geological Survey. That includes residential, commercial, agriculture, manufacturing and every other use — almost 500,000 gallons per person. Coastal states like Florida and California face a water crisis not only from increased demand, but also from rising temperatures that are causing glaciers to melt and sea levels to rise. Higher temperatures mean more water lost to evaporation. And rising seas could push saltwater into underground sources of freshwater. Florida represents perhaps the nation's greatest water irony. A hundred years ago, the state's biggest problem was it had too much water. But decades of dikes, dams and water diversions have turned swamps into cities. Little land is left to store water during wet seasons, and so much of the landscape has been paved over that water can no longer penetrate the ground in some places to recharge aquifers. As a result, the state is forced to flush millions of gallons of excess into the ocean to prevent flooding. Also, the state dumps hundreds of billions of gallons a year of treated wastewater into the Atlantic through pipes — water that could otherwise be used for irrigation. Florida's environmental chief, Michael Sole, is seeking legislative action to get municipalities to reuse the wastewater. "As these communities grow, instead of developing new water with new treatment systems, why not better manage the commodity they already have and produce an environmental benefit at the same time?" Sole said. Florida leads the nation in water reuse by reclaiming some 240 billion gallons annually, but it is not nearly enough, Sole said. Floridians use about 2.4 trillion gallons of water a year. The state projects that by 2025, the population will have increased 34 percent from about 18 million to more than 24 million people, pushing annual demand for water to nearly 3.3 trillion gallons. More than half of the state's expected population boom is projected in a three-county area that includes Miami, Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach, where water use is already about 1.5 trillion gallons a year. "We just passed a crossroads. The chief water sources are basically gone," said John Mulliken, director of water supply for the South Florida Water Management District. "We really are at a critical moment in Florida history." In addition to recycling and conservation, technology holds promise. There are more than 1,000 desalination plants in the U.S., many in the Sunbelt, where baby boomers are retiring at a dizzying rate. The Tampa Bay Seawater Desalination Plant is producing about 25 million gallons a day of fresh drinking water, about 10 percent of that area's demand. The $158 million facility is North America's largest plant of its kind. Miami-Dade County is working with the city of H
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > Me: This is a difference we have had in the past. You seen > > unable to distinguish a person's attack on an idea with a > > personal attack. I have not made any statement about what I > > think of you as a person if you decide you want to embrace the > > idea that looking at your turds is harmful. I am saying that > > this belief is misguided, wrong, nonsense,like much information > > from pre-scientific societies. > > > Your characterization of my belief > > as howling and barking, the vocalizations of dogs, is personally > > insulting in every culture I know. > > So your characterization of Jim's belief as "misguided, > wrong, and nonsense" isn't an attack on Jim; but Jim's > characterization of your belief as "howling and barking" > *is* an attack on you. > > How does that work, exactly? I sure don't know > how I would make that distinction. I am still getting to the point of understanding what specifically he does believe about this, he has not stated it. But you may have a point about how to phrase my opinion in the idea rather than the belief. The context is that Jim claims a higher state so his choice of this belief if he does may make perfect sense. Perhaps with celestial perception you can see awareness diminishing Rakshashas jumping off of turds. But his statement was about my statement, mine was about a belief in the scriptures. I accept that I need to be careful once Jim has stated what he does believe. But if he does choose it I can be more diplomatic about how I feel about it. Some of the terms I used have more emotional weight than necessary to get my point across that it I don't believe it. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > R: "Characteristics" and "expect" being the operative words. In my > > view, it appears as if you're spinning out fairy tales and then > > falling hopelessly in love with them. You and New seem to be much in > > the same boat. New actually said (more or less) that he is looking > > for "role models" to "pursue"! And what prey tell is wrong with role models? I find value in being in the company of those manifesting, expressing, living laudable human virtures -- many of which I have listed. I find less value in being in the company of mood makers, posers, speculators and those with fantastic imaginations. Or simply those devoid of such qualities -- but making up for it with less laudable ones. Though there are many people throughout my life who personify great human qualities -- some have some special and deep ones. I have known people of great virtues, I have worked with people of great virtuous qualities, and you son, are no "great one" (paraphrashing Llyod Benson). And I should not limit it to human virtues. Simply virtues. I have had several dogs that were far more virtuous and openly expressive of such qualities than those here claiming some sort of enlightenment.or now not claiming enlightenment. The story, surprisingly, keeps changing. (thats a joke -- there is no surprise). What you want to claim to have achieved inside and how you want to equate it with what others have achieved inside -- makes no difference to me. La de dah on. What is of interest to me is the depth of human virtues that various people express in their lives. Frankly, Rory, you don't interest me much. Perhaps you are confused, (no matter how many times we discuss it), thinking erroneously that I equate these virtures with the state you are so in love with and so attached to -- the term you call enlightenment. There is not connection. It is clear that those who claim enlightenment have few of these virtues, so what ever this state that claim, fanciful or real, has no interest to me. Perhaps in the fog of things you have misconstrued my words as my having some sort of expectations about the qualities of enlightenment. its sort of a Mu question. I have nothing of the kind. I think the label "enlightenment" is full of baggage and pretty useless term. I think those claiming enlightenment have few if any laudable human virtues -- yet many less laudable ones. I am not seeking the state you term enlightenment nor do I have any desire for such. And since you have proclaimed that you are not enlightened, a refutation of your past claims to be enlightened, what other than didley squat do you know about the topic. Other than speculation and the parroting of so many books. Which, indeed you are good at. > > This left me so speechless -- we have such an apparent void of > > understanding between us -- that all I could say was blah blah blah, > > in hopes that this would convey the utter impossibility of conveying > > the inconveyable. Apparently it failed -- what a surprise :-) Or you simply did not want to face the huge chasm between the qualities of those claiming enlightenment and laudable human virtues. And the apparent worthlessness of your so beloved fantastic altered states - or imaginations of such. So as usual, you diverted, punted and obsfucated. The Rory shuffle. Though I have to warn you, Jim has been taking shuffling lessons and is shuffling with the best of your guys. > Arrogance is > another characteristic that's showing in your rhetoric. If that's an > example of your 'enlightenment' then I'll gladly say that you're > 'enlightenment' is about as valuable as shit for lunch. Just don't look at that lunch. All the four horseman of enlightenment on this forum have mastered the arrogance siddhi. Its a wonder to watch. At least Peter, laudably so, has tamed his from past years.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Me: This is a difference we have had in the past. You seen > unable to distinguish a person's attack on an idea with a > personal attack. I have not made any statement about what I > think of you as a person if you decide you want to embrace the > idea that looking at your turds is harmful. I am saying that > this belief is misguided, wrong, nonsense,like much information > from pre-scientific societies. > Your characterization of my belief > as howling and barking, the vocalizations of dogs, is personally > insulting in every culture I know. So your characterization of Jim's belief as "misguided, wrong, and nonsense" isn't an attack on Jim; but Jim's characterization of your belief as "howling and barking" *is* an attack on you. How does that work, exactly? I sure don't know how I would make that distinction.
[FairfieldLife] Newfound Planet Could Support Life As We Know It
2007-11-06
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
** *Newfound Planet Could Support Life As We Know It* NASA / JPL-Caltech This artist's conception shows four of the five planets that orbit 55 Cancri, a star much like our own. The most recently discovered planet looms large in the foreground. The colors of the planets were chosen to resemble those of our own solar system. Astronomers do not know what the planets actually look like. -- Planet-hunters say they have detected a giant world that is nestled among four others in a planetary system 41 light-years from Earth. This newfound world is in the "Goldilocks zone" - a place that's not too hot, not too cold, but just right for the existence of liquid water and conceivably life. The fresh discovery, announced today during a NASA teleconference, focuses on a star and planetary system called 55 Cancri, in the constellation Cancer. The system is already well-known to astronomers who search for the telltale signs of planets beyond our own solar system - but the newly detected planet has taken the search to a new level. "We're announcing the discovery of the first quintuple-planet system," Debra Fischer, an astronomer at San Francisco State University and lead author of a paper due to appear in the Astrophysical Journal, told reporters. Geoff Marcy, a pioneer planet-hunter from the University of California at Berkeley who contributed to the paper, said the planetary system is a "souped-up" version of our own. Like our own solar system, these planets make nearly circular orbits around the parent star - but they're super-sized. The innermost planet is about the size of Neptune and whips around the parent star in less than three days, at a distance of about 3.5 million miles. The farthest-out planet is four times as massive as Jupiter and takes 14 Earth years to orbit, at a distance of about 539 million miles - or just a little farther out than our solar system's Jupiter. NASA / JPL-Caltech This diagram shows the 55 Cancri system at top and our own solar system at bottom. In each view, the "habitable zone" is marked as a green band. -- MORE HERE: http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/06/451256.aspx
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 2:11 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See) Oh, gracious, clearly the former. We have no evidence that Iran is actually developing nuclear weapons (see John's post); but we have quite a bit for catastrophic global warming. It’s worth pointing out, as the cover of this week’s Newsweek does, that Pakistan is now a much greater threat than Iran. They already have nuclear weapons and the country is going nuts at the moment. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.23/1114 - Release Date: 11/6/2007 8:05 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
Me: > OK Jim, you considered my discrediting of Vedic nonsense as howling > and barking. Jim : ME: I was using the term specifically concerning the nonsense in some of the Vedic literature. I don't deny that, like much of the world's ancient literature, there is much to learn from Vedic literature and that they can be very insightful. But they can also be wrong about things and that part is nonsense. Such as the assertion found in the Ayur vedic literature that looking at your turds hurts you in any way. I am not a fundamentalist about the literature, I think it can be wrong about certain things. Do you believe all of the Vedic literature to be infallible? Me: ow that you have been presented with the inconsistency > of this claim by Rick and myself, what do you have to say? Do you > still maintain that the prescriptions in the Ayur Vedic texts, the > Charaka and Shushruta Samhitas like not looking at your own poop are a > description of what happens when you get enlightened? Jim: Impossible to say-- the state(s) of enlightenment bring value to everything. As I said, it is impossible to view each element separately and judge its value. Better to get enlightened first, then make a decision on all of this. If you are asking me personally to make a judgment on the extreme examples you are cherry picking for their alarmist value, I will not. Me: I didn't cherry pick anything, I responded to a point Bob brought up. It is not an extreme example it is a specific one. So even presented with the fact that you are misapplying MMYs quote about one scripture to another, you are maintaining that all the Vedic literature is descriptive rather than perspective? Here you are taking a stand that is so different from what MMY teaches that I am just trying to find out what you personal idea is. Since you are directly contradicting MMY's perspective I can only understand your POV from you. ME: That naturally > you no longer look at your poop after enlightenmen? Do you see how > absurd this position is? Or the punishments meted out by Caste in the > Laws of Manu which is the source of your misapplication of MMY's > quote, do you maintain that an enlightened person would pour molten > liquids in their ears if they are of low caste and hear the > scriptures? Have you ever even read any of these texts? Jim: Please see above. Me: Again, have you ever read any of these books or are you making statements about their contents with no direct knowledge? ME: > I've been very curious to see what cognitive benifits that self > proclaimed enlightenment might carry. You have explained to me why > you can't manifest your claimed sidhi powers on command. Now I am > wondering if you can manifest simple honesty. You were wrong about > this and your attempt to characterize speaking up against these absurd beliefs as "howling and barking" was out of line. Jim: I don't characterize them as absurd beliefs, and you don't characterize your response as howling and barking. It looks like a balance to me. Me: This is a difference we have had in the past. You seen unable to distinguish a person's attack on an idea with a personal attack. I have not made any statement about what I think of you as a person if you decide you want to embrace the idea that looking at your turds is harmful. I am saying that this belief is misguided, wrong, nonsense, like much information from pre-scientific societies. Me: > So you are at a crossroads Jim. What is it going to be? Can you > admit being wrong about something, can you give a reason why you are > not wrong, or are you going to try to ignore counter evidence to your > statement and refuse to learn something new? You gave up th option > of quietly slipping away when you took the personal shot by your > insulting mischaracterization of my point. Jim: As I recall, "you took the personal shot by your insulting mischaracterization of my point" first, so who is also at a crossroads? Me: Now it is your turn to see above. It is critical in a discussion to understand what is personally insulting and what is a difference of opinion about an idea. You are not the Vedic literature so my statement is not insulting or, as I have explained, a mischaracterization of your point. Your characterization of my belief as howling and barking, the vocalizations of dogs, is personally insulting in every culture I know. So here are my questions if you choose to answer: Do you view all the Vedic texts, including the Ayur Vedic texts to be descriptive rather than prescriptive? Have you read the Laws of Manu or the Charaka or Shushruta Samhitas? Do you believe that all the information in these texts are infallible? Can they be wrong about anything? Can anything in these text be rightfully referred to as nonsense? Since you are taking a different position than MMY on what texts are descriptive, if not his perspective, why did you decide that the Ayur Vedic texts are descriptive rather than prescriptive? Di
[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for the rest of the story...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 6, 2007, at 9:06 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > I finally realized what all these Rajas at the Coronation Ceremony > > table look like: > > > > They look like a bunch of Hell's Angels who were forced, at gunpoint, > > to become Born Again Christians, showered and scrubbed clean > > by 12-year-old virgins betrothed to the prophet of a compound of > > polygamists in rural Utah, and then been given a make-over by a > > contingent of Gay Hairdressers from Middle Earth. > > I think they look like new-age Klansmen. > > Sal>> Ha ha, you guys are totally projecting your own consciousness. They actaully just look like a bunch of mad old eccentric, crazy but harmless, Victorians with their penchent for exuberant folly. OffWorld .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation--What They're Really Thinking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of off_world_beings > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:05 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation--What They're Really Thinking > > > > > HYPERLINK > "http://www.beingandseeing.com/coronation/content/11711_large.html"h ttp://ww > w.beingandseeing.com/coronation/content/11711_large.html > > > > "Who *is* that babe over there?">> > > Well, it is Holland, nudity's legal. > > It wasn't Holland. This all took place right here in Vedic City.> Oh sh!t, the Republicans are in charge over there. Women have to cover up their cleavage and wear long dresses. That direction of covering things up eventually leads to the total face veil for women. Not like here in Vermont where nudity is totally legal. My God, what are the local Iowans thinking of this whole insanity!? OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > DR:> > > "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's > just > > > that so > > > > > > many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~ Mahatma Ghandi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R:> > > "Was it something I said?" > > > > > > > > > > -- Rory Goff > > > > > > > > > DR: In my view, the meaning of the Ghandi quote applies... to both > you and Jim. > > > > R: I suppose it might apply *if* I claimed to be a Christian, *and* > if > > > you knew Christ personally (whatever that might mean), *and* if > you > > > knew me personally, *and* were competent to compare and contrast > us, > > > none of which I am currently prepared to admit > > > DR: It's my understanding that Jesus Christ was/is an 'enlightened' > guy. > > R: It's my understanding that the historical Jesus was essentially a > fictitious character (probably based on Apollonius of Tyana) created > by Josephus for the Flavians to counter the Messianic > Jewish "problem." However, given the way things work out over time, I > think it's a fair bet that both your understanding and mine are > probably almost completely wrong :-) > > DR: [Maharishi has clearly indicated that he was.] It's also my > > understanding that Guru Dev was/is an enlightened guy. Guru Dev and > > Christ share characteristics one would expect in an 'enlightened' > guy. > > R: "Characteristics" and "expect" being the operative words. In my > view, it appears as if you're spinning out fairy tales and then > falling hopelessly in love with them. You and New seem to be much in > the same boat. New actually said (more or less) that he is looking > for "role models" to "pursue"! Oh my. Apparently that's EXACTLY what Guru Dev was looking for: === "Here in Rishikesh the Bal Mahatma [Guru Dev] thought to himself that without making a spiritual Guru, self effort may or may not be successful, so a Guru is essential for speedy success. Moreover Adi Shankaracharya had also made a Guru. According to religious scriptures, a person knowing his self and well-versed in Vedic wisdom should be a Sad (noble) Guru and for this worthy choice he added two more qualifications to it i.e. he should be angerless and Bal Bramhachari [celibate]. Such a perfect Sad Guru he decided to have. So ultimately he set out in search of such a Sad Guru. The next day, the Boy Mahatma left his home forsaking all the worldly comforts, pleasures, and Mamta[?] of the ever-changing world. The lamenting crowd of people with tears of affection gave a hearty send off to this tender aged Boy Mahatma to find some solitary corner of the Universe to fulfil his keen and Pious Wish of life. None could know then that one day the boy would be a perfect Yogi, a Great Spiritual Guide, and illustrious Jagat Guru Shri Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath Badarikasham in the Himalayas, the highest seat of spiritual wisdom, Tapa and Vairaga, and ultimately he would be worshipped all over the Globe." ~~ From the biography of Guru Dev, 'Strange Facts About a Great Saint' by Dr. R. P. Varma === > This left me so speechless -- we have such an apparent void of > understanding between us -- that all I could say was blah blah blah, > in hopes that this would convey the utter impossibility of conveying > the inconveyable. Apparently it failed -- what a surprise :-) Like I said, "You both come off as flippant smart asses, particularly it seems when you're criticized." I'll add to that that indeed you DO condescendingly suggest that you are 'enlightened' by implying that you know the "inconveyable" and were unable to convey it. Arrogance is another characteristic that's showing in your rhetoric. If that's an example of your 'enlightenment' then I'll gladly say that you're 'enlightenment' is about as valuable as shit for lunch.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > DR:> > > "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's > just > > > that so > > > > > > many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~ Mahatma Ghandi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R:> > > "Was it something I said?" > > > > > > > > > > -- Rory Goff > > > > > > > > > DR: In my view, the meaning of the Ghandi quote applies... to both > you and Jim. > > > > R: I suppose it might apply *if* I claimed to be a Christian, *and* > if > > > you knew Christ personally (whatever that might mean), *and* if > you > > > knew me personally, *and* were competent to compare and contrast > us, > > > none of which I am currently prepared to admit > > > DR: It's my understanding that Jesus Christ was/is an 'enlightened' > guy. > > R: It's my understanding that the historical Jesus was essentially a > fictitious character (probably based on Apollonius of Tyana) created > by Josephus for the Flavians to counter the Messianic > Jewish "problem." However, given the way things work out over time, I > think it's a fair bet that both your understanding and mine are > probably almost completely wrong :-) > > DR: [Maharishi has clearly indicated that he was.] It's also my > > understanding that Guru Dev was/is an enlightened guy. Guru Dev and > > Christ share characteristics one would expect in an 'enlightened' > guy. > > R: "Characteristics" and "expect" being the operative words. In my > view, it appears as if you're spinning out fairy tales and then > falling hopelessly in love with them. You and New seem to be much in > the same boat. New actually said (more or less) that he is looking > for "role models" to "pursue"! This left me so speechless -- we have > such an apparent void of understanding between us -- that all I could > say was blah blah blah, in hopes that this would convey the utter > impossibility of conveying the inconveyable. Apparently it failed -- > what a surprise :-) > > DR:> In my view, in spite of the claims you make about yourselves, > > R: What claims are these, exactly? I readily admit that in the past I > have said here, "I am enlightened and so are you." This was the > closest I could then come to conveying the inconveyable. Now, with > many thanks to Judy and Nagarjuna, I have come still closer: I am not > enlightened, nor ignorant, nor both, nor neither. In other > words, "leave me out of it!" :-) > > DR: you and > > Jim certainly do not. You both come off as flippant smart asses, > > particularly it seems when you're criticized. > > R: Many thanks for your post -- it was easier to reply to than New's, > which got so convoluted I had to surrender into blah blah blah :-: >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Rick Archer, I've now been able to see the video. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have several impressions that I'd like to convey, but > I'll > > > only > > > > > > give one: > > > > > > > > > > > > Do the exact same exercise for Iran and Nuclear Weapons. > > > > > > > > > > > > See what course of action you come up with. > > > > > > > > > > You can't do the same exercise with Iran. What are > > > > > your two choices along the side of the chart? > > > > > > > > In the video, the premise (upper left of grid where the "GCC" > is > > > > written) is that there will be catastrophic man-made global > > warming. > > > > > > > > Instead, the premise is: Nuclear holocaust initiated by Iran as > a > > > > result of Iran developing nuclear weapons. > > > > > > > > You ask, Judy, what are the choices along the side of the chart: > > > > they would be the same: "False" first and then "True" below it. > > > > > > But you have two premises for each choice: (a) whether > > > Iran is developing nuclear weapons; and (b) whether > > > Iran will initiate a nuclear holocaust. Obviously if > > > (a) is false, (b) is also false. But if (a) is true, > > > (b) might be true *or* false. > > > > > > In fact, the global warming chart has a similar problem: > > > there should be two premises for each choice, but he's > > > conflated them. So neither would be conclusive in terms > > > of end results. > > > > Well, then, you were incorrect when you said, above, that "you > > can't do the same exercise with Iran" because, apparently, you > > can. They would just be two wrong exercises, according to you. > > You can't use the chart in the video clip for Iran > and come out with a reasonable result. > > > > There isn't much disagreement that we want to keep Iran > > > from developing nuclear weapons. The issue is how we go > > > about it if Iran is in fact trying to develop them, not > > > whether we want to take action or not. > > > > > > > > > > Now discuss...oh, and remember to ask yourself: what's more > > > > likely to actually happen: catastrophic global warming (man- > > > > made or otherwise) or Iran actually getting nuclear weapons. > > > > > > Oh, gracious, clearly the former. We have no evidence > > > that Iran is actually developing nuclear weapons (see > > > John's post); but we have quite a bit for catastrophic > > > global warming. > > > > I would disagree with you profoundly on that, Judy, as you can > > well imagine. I can't believe that you actually believe that > > Iran, left to its own devices, won't get its hands on nuclear > > weapons. I find that both sad and bizarre that you are in denial > > about that. > > Please read what I wrote again, Shemp. That isn't > what I said, is it? You made up something you could > knock down and put it in my mouth, as you typically > do when you have trouble making a valid point. > > Iran could well eventually get its hands on nuclear > weapons if it has sufficient motivation to do so. > > However, we might be able to eliminate the motivation > if we handle things properly (something we can't do > with climate change, BTW, another reason why the > video clip chart won't work with Iran). > > > As for predicting weather -- something no one in the history of > > mankind has successfully done to any great degree -- there is zero > > evidence of catastrophic man-made global warming. I haven't seen > > it, nor has anyone. > > This time you put different words in your own mouth. > Reread what *you* said that I was responding to, > please. Hint: Note the parenthetical. > > I'm not going to continue this, Shemp. I've made my > point, and you are either unwilling or unable to > argue it logically. No, don't, because, as usual, you're always right.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DR:> > > "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just > > that so > > > > > many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." > > > > > > > > > > ~~ Mahatma Ghandi > > > > > > > > > > > > R:> > > "Was it something I said?" > > > > > > > > -- Rory Goff > > > > > > DR: In my view, the meaning of the Ghandi quote applies... to both you and Jim. > > R: I suppose it might apply *if* I claimed to be a Christian, *and* if > > you knew Christ personally (whatever that might mean), *and* if you > > knew me personally, *and* were competent to compare and contrast us, > > none of which I am currently prepared to admit DR: It's my understanding that Jesus Christ was/is an 'enlightened' guy. R: It's my understanding that the historical Jesus was essentially a fictitious character (probably based on Apollonius of Tyana) created by Josephus for the Flavians to counter the Messianic Jewish "problem." However, given the way things work out over time, I think it's a fair bet that both your understanding and mine are probably almost completely wrong :-) DR: [Maharishi has clearly indicated that he was.] It's also my > understanding that Guru Dev was/is an enlightened guy. Guru Dev and > Christ share characteristics one would expect in an 'enlightened' guy. R: "Characteristics" and "expect" being the operative words. In my view, it appears as if you're spinning out fairy tales and then falling hopelessly in love with them. You and New seem to be much in the same boat. New actually said (more or less) that he is looking for "role models" to "pursue"! This left me so speechless -- we have such an apparent void of understanding between us -- that all I could say was blah blah blah, in hopes that this would convey the utter impossibility of conveying the inconveyable. Apparently it failed -- what a surprise :-) DR:> In my view, in spite of the claims you make about yourselves, R: What claims are these, exactly? I readily admit that in the past I have said here, "I am enlightened and so are you." This was the closest I could then come to conveying the inconveyable. Now, with many thanks to Judy and Nagarjuna, I have come still closer: I am not enlightened, nor ignorant, nor both, nor neither. In other words, "leave me out of it!" :-) DR: you and > Jim certainly do not. You both come off as flippant smart asses, > particularly it seems when you're criticized. R: Many thanks for your post -- it was easier to reply to than New's, which got so convoluted I had to surrender into blah blah blah :-:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prissy Blissy vs Hard-Corp John Wayne Spiritualism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > you're Busted dude, and all you can say in return is some lame joke > about shit? > Actually Jim, as you know, I wrote the a response to your question below (in ). And its odd, but so consistent with your behavior, that as you obsfucated then, and you obsfucate now. That you clipped the response and then blatently say it is not there gets right to my point. You lack integrity. You lack any-sense of self-reflection. When you are confronted with many, on-going contradictions of your statements (and your actions and statements) you divert attention, and repeatedly refuse to address the contradictions that a growing list of people are pointing out. That you respond with hostility, anger and child like logic simply adds to the growing list of contradictions by one who claims a Perfect Intellect and Perfect Knowledge. For example your recent response below. Certainly dripping with human compassion, a sense that the world is perfect, that all is brahman, an loving what is. Again obsfucating. Again running scared, Again shooting the messenger for delivering the message you apparently so fear to hear. Do you think we all so wrong Jim: Curtis, Hugo, Do.Flex, Vaj, Sal, myself, and others? Jim: "Oh what a elephant sized load of CRAP! No, you do it because you are a mean spirited person. Why is that so hard to see? If you wanted me to get something out of it, you would engage me in a respectful discussion. But all you want to do is be a jerk, and get off on it. I guess that makes you a jerk-off! HA!" *** Perhaps a little study and inquiry on the term "projection" would be good. The scene could not be more surrealistic and astutely funny. Jim, by all means, continue to make massive contradictions. Continue to believe you are wearing the Emperor's clothes while acting like a naked pauper. Continue to obsfucate, divert, get angry, blame it all on the messenger. Its entertaining -- to a degree. But more an more -- its becoming sad to see the carnage of the TMO spilled all over the roadside -- the vacuum of virtue and laudable qualities, in those profess to have the maximum of such. New's response Jim clipped. A response Jim denied was there: "I said nothing about sharing experience as arrogant. And I have shared a number myself over the years. But not in the tone of your post -- one-upmanship "my consciousness big swinging dick is bigger than yours". My joke regarding you, and other self-proclaimed perfected ones having mastered the Arrogance Siddhi, is all about your claims to having a Perfect Crystalline Radiant Intellect, Perfect Knowledge -- in the highest state of perfected Brahaman Consciousness -- and then making silly contradictory statements over and over again. And I see you punted, as usual, and refused to address such contradictions and shortcomings, but choose to divert attention to fantasies that you make up. But that is natural for one who has perfected the Red Herring Siddi." All the best to you and your fantastic inner world Jim.
[FairfieldLife] Filmmaker David Lynch launches universities in Finland, Estonia, and Bulgaria to create national invincibility
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: Datum: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:35:23 -0700 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Von: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Betreff: David Lynch launches universities in Finland, Estonia, and Bulgaria to create national invincibility --> Invincible Finland University Finland contact: Dr Hannu Heikkilä +358 40 5423 423 Estonia contact: Dr Jaan Suurkula +372 688 2758 Bulgaria contact: Dr Donka Hodjeva +359 887 919780 or +359 2981 8553 PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Filmmaker David Lynch to launch new universities in Finland, Estonia, and Bulgaria to create national invincibility Flag-raising ceremonies to be held 5-9 November for Invincible Finland University, Invincible Estonia University, and Invincible Bulgaria University These unique universities will offer enlightenment to every student and invincibility to the nation.-- David Lynch Helsinki, 5 November 2007: - This week, iconic filmmaker Dr David Lynch will launch new national universities in Finland, Estonia, and Bulgaria, which will provide Total Knowledge full enlightenment to every student and invincibility to national consciousness. Dr Lynch will be joined by world-renowned quantum physicist, Dr John Hagelin, President of Maharishi Central University, USA, and Director of the Global Union of Scientists for Peace; and by foremost educator, Dr Bevan Morris, President of Maharishi University of Management, Iowa, USA. Dr Lynch, Dr Hagelin, and Dr Morris will launch Invincible Finland University, Invincible Estonia University, and Invincible Bulgaria University with flag-raising ceremonies, press conferences, and public lectures. They will be accompanied by leading local scientists, educators, and business leaders. The three-nation Invincible University launch follows similar inaugurations in the past month in Italy, Israel, Ireland, Northern Ireland, England, Scotland, Belgium, France, and Denmark. Classes are scheduled to being in all of the new universities on 12 January 2008. There is very strong support in every country to establish these new universities where the students will gain enlightenment and radiate peace in the world on a permanent basis, Dr Lynch said. According to Dr Hagelin, the programme of study at the new universities will include the traditional academic disciplines, with a few minutes added to each class to identify the source of the discipline in the Unified Field, as discovered in the most advanced findings of modern science. Students will utilise proven technologies of consciousness to gain direct subjective experience of the Unified Field. Extensive scientific research shows that this experience of the Unified Field leads to the development of total brain functioning, increased intelligence and creativity, better behaviour, and a marked improvement in the trends of life in society as a whole ultimately creating a state of national invincibility where no negativity or conflicts can arise within the nation nor penetrate it from outside, Dr Hagelin said. Dr Morris has already applied this Unified Field-based approach with great success at his own award-winning University Maharishi University of Management which was established 35 years ago in the USA and now has students from 60 countries. The value of this Total Knowledge-based approach to education cannot be overestimated, because the unfoldment of infinite creativity through Total Knowledge is the basis to fulfil all desires and realise all possibilities in daily life, Dr Morris said. The goal of the Invincible Universities, Dr Lynch said, will be to promote the common good and raise every country to invincibility. An invincible nation will be prosperous, healthy, and problem-free, with a nourishing peace-creating role in the family of nations. - In the past two years, the David Lynch Foundation for Consciousness-Based Education and World Peace has provided millions of dollars in grants for in-school Transcendental Meditation programmes for tens of thousands of students in the USA, Latin America, and Africa. The wide-ranging benefits of the Transcendental Meditation programme for students and teachers have been documented by more than 600 scientific studies conducted over the past 40 years at 250 independent research institutions and universities in 33 countries. David Lynchs US best-seller, Catching the Big Fish: Meditation, Consciousness, and Creativity, was published in January 2007. www.davidlynchfoundation.org - UK press contact: 020 87894 9229 UK website: www.consciousnessbasededucation.org.uk ... Everything for everyone everywhere visit: www.globalgoodnews.com The email you are subscribed with is [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe click here: Click here to unsubscribe To change your email click here: Click here
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > blah blah blah > > > > > > > > > > Rory wrote: > > > > > > > > > > blah blah blah > > > > > > > > > > > > "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just > that so > > > > many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." > > > > > > > > ~~ Mahatma Ghandi > > > > > > > > > > > > "Was it something I said?" > > > > > > -- Rory Goff > > > > > > In my view, the meaning of the Ghandi quote applies... to both you > and > > Jim. > > I suppose it might apply *if* I claimed to be a Christian, *and* if > you knew Christ personally (whatever that might mean), *and* if you > knew me personally, *and* were competent to compare and contrast us, > none of which I am currently prepared to admit It's my understanding that Jesus Christ was/is an 'enlightened' guy. [Maharishi has clearly indicated that he was.] It's also my understanding that Guru Dev was/is an enlightened guy. Guru Dev and Christ share characteristics one would expect in an 'enlightened' guy. In my view, in spite of the claims you make about yourselves, you and Jim certainly do not. You both come off as flippant smart asses, particularly it seems when you're criticized.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Rick Archer, I've now been able to see the video. > > > > > > > > > > I have several impressions that I'd like to convey, but I'll > > only > > > > > give one: > > > > > > > > > > Do the exact same exercise for Iran and Nuclear Weapons. > > > > > > > > > > See what course of action you come up with. > > > > > > > > You can't do the same exercise with Iran. What are > > > > your two choices along the side of the chart? > > > > > > In the video, the premise (upper left of grid where the "GCC" is > > > written) is that there will be catastrophic man-made global > warming. > > > > > > Instead, the premise is: Nuclear holocaust initiated by Iran as a > > > result of Iran developing nuclear weapons. > > > > > > You ask, Judy, what are the choices along the side of the chart: > > > they would be the same: "False" first and then "True" below it. > > > > But you have two premises for each choice: (a) whether > > Iran is developing nuclear weapons; and (b) whether > > Iran will initiate a nuclear holocaust. Obviously if > > (a) is false, (b) is also false. But if (a) is true, > > (b) might be true *or* false. > > > > In fact, the global warming chart has a similar problem: > > there should be two premises for each choice, but he's > > conflated them. So neither would be conclusive in terms > > of end results. > > Well, then, you were incorrect when you said, above, that "you > can't do the same exercise with Iran" because, apparently, you > can. They would just be two wrong exercises, according to you. You can't use the chart in the video clip for Iran and come out with a reasonable result. > > There isn't much disagreement that we want to keep Iran > > from developing nuclear weapons. The issue is how we go > > about it if Iran is in fact trying to develop them, not > > whether we want to take action or not. > > > > > > > Now discuss...oh, and remember to ask yourself: what's more > > > likely to actually happen: catastrophic global warming (man- > > > made or otherwise) or Iran actually getting nuclear weapons. > > > > Oh, gracious, clearly the former. We have no evidence > > that Iran is actually developing nuclear weapons (see > > John's post); but we have quite a bit for catastrophic > > global warming. > > I would disagree with you profoundly on that, Judy, as you can > well imagine. I can't believe that you actually believe that > Iran, left to its own devices, won't get its hands on nuclear > weapons. I find that both sad and bizarre that you are in denial > about that. Please read what I wrote again, Shemp. That isn't what I said, is it? You made up something you could knock down and put it in my mouth, as you typically do when you have trouble making a valid point. Iran could well eventually get its hands on nuclear weapons if it has sufficient motivation to do so. However, we might be able to eliminate the motivation if we handle things properly (something we can't do with climate change, BTW, another reason why the video clip chart won't work with Iran). > As for predicting weather -- something no one in the history of > mankind has successfully done to any great degree -- there is zero > evidence of catastrophic man-made global warming. I haven't seen > it, nor has anyone. This time you put different words in your own mouth. Reread what *you* said that I was responding to, please. Hint: Note the parenthetical. I'm not going to continue this, Shemp. I've made my point, and you are either unwilling or unable to argue it logically.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bob Dylan Prophet?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > off_world_beings wrote: > > "So he drifted down to New Orleans, lucky > > enough to be destroyed..." > > > Who knows? Almost none of Bob's lyrics make any sense. From > what I've read, Bob was in New Orleans for all of four hours > only once in his whole life, back in 1963. > Dylan's autobio, Chronicles I (2004), pgs. 176 - 181, on New Orleans, circa 1987: -"New Orleans, unlike alot of places you go back to and that don't have the majic anymore, still has got it." -"There's alot of places I like, but I like New Orleans better."... _"The city is one very long poem." -"In New Orleans, you could almost see other dimensions". Mainstream says: Dylan performed at New Orleans' Jazz Fest, Spring, 2006. In the mid-19th century, New Orleans was one of the wealthiest cities in the world. The Civil War and Reconstruction knocked it from its height; arrogance of its glorious past resisted the 20th century's call for racial justice, and its below sea level status looks bleak unless glaciers the world over reverse their melting trends and sop up some of the excess moisture that slaps its door step with the daily high tide. Go there, soon. New Orleans needs visitors in the worst way. Go there now, if only as a guest at a wake. Even the funerals there are fabulous. - > "...found a 66-year-old Dylan breathless, lovesick, and bent > on revenge. Blood on the Tracks' "You're a Big Girl Now" became > its corkscrew to the heart, while the crash-landing bounce of > Blonde on Blonde's "Most Likely You Go Your Way (and I'll Go > Mine)" had everybody holding on for dear life, including a > barking, spitting, trilling Dylan, his voice all but totaled > as he tried to keep up with the band and the crowd tried to > keep up with him." > > Read more: > > Music Fest Live Shots: > http://tinyurl.com/ysec7r > > Dylan Does Texas: > http://tinyurl.com/2g7yuy > > Titles of interest: > > 'Bob Dylan: Behind the Shades Revisited' > By Clinton Heylin > Harper Paperbacks, 2003 > > 'Down the Highway: The Life of Bob Dylan' > By Howard Sounes > Grove Press, 2002 > > 'No Direction Home' > By Robert Shelton > Da Capo Press, 2003 >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > > > blah blah blah > > > > > > > > Rory wrote: > > > > > > > > blah blah blah > > > > > > > > > "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so > > > many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." > > > > > > ~~ Mahatma Ghandi > > > > > > > > "Was it something I said?" > > > > -- Rory Goff > > > In my view, the meaning of the Ghandi quote applies... to both you and > Jim. I suppose it might apply *if* I claimed to be a Christian, *and* if you knew Christ personally (whatever that might mean), *and* if you knew me personally, *and* were competent to compare and contrast us, none of which I am currently prepared to admit :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > Here's an exercise for ya'. You know those video tapes of > recently > > > > > melting polar ice caps and the side of Greenland that > proponents > > > use > > > > > as evidence of catastrophic global warming? Well, look at > the > > > video > > > > > tapes of polar ice caps and Greenland from 6 or 7 hundred > years ago > > > > > and you'll see that they melted to just the same degree. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's see those video tapes from 6 or 7 hundred years ago, > Magoo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Precisely. > > > > > > Well, when are you going to show them? > > > > > Uh, that's precisely the point...there ARE no videos from 6 or 7 > hundred years ago for me to prove my point. > > Get it? Yes. Apparently your attempt to refute the NASA produced animation has no basis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > Here's an exercise for ya'. You know those video tapes of recently > > > > melting polar ice caps and the side of Greenland that proponents > > use > > > > as evidence of catastrophic global warming? Well, look at the > > video > > > > tapes of polar ice caps and Greenland from 6 or 7 hundred years ago > > > > and you'll see that they melted to just the same degree. > > > > > > > > > Let's see those video tapes from 6 or 7 hundred years ago, Magoo. > > > > > > > > > Precisely. > > > Well, when are you going to show them? > Uh, that's precisely the point...there ARE no videos from 6 or 7 hundred years ago for me to prove my point. Get it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > blah blah blah > > > > > > Rory wrote: > > > > > > blah blah blah > > > > > > "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so > > many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." > > > > ~~ Mahatma Ghandi > > > > "Was it something I said?" > > -- Rory Goff In my view, the meaning of the Ghandi quote applies... to both you and Jim.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Aphorisms Of Unc, volume 1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've heard a rumor...in fact, I've heard MMY say that the enlightened yogi can drink poison without ill effect. > Makes sense-- good one. > authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > 20. The more spiritual aphorisms you read instead of > > coming up with your own, the stupider you become. :-) > > 21. The more spiritual aphorisms you come up with > in an attempt to discredit spiritual paths, the > angrier you are about your own inability to find > one of your own. > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
On Nov 6, 2007, at 3:51 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: "I agree completely with this. No, you were not howling and barking, but some were, in their headlong attempt to discredit something that needs no discrediting." OK Jim, you considered my discrediting of Vedic nonsense as howling and barking. Now that you have been presented with the inconsistency of this claim by Rick and myself, what do you have to say? Do you still maintain that the prescriptions in the Ayur Vedic texts, the Charaka and Shushruta Samhitas like not looking at your own poop are a description of what happens when you get enlightened? Jim's confusion appears to be a basic confusion between smriti and shruti. Manu is smriti, "the remembered", old lore passed done from the past. It does not come from an an enlightened cognition necessarily. It's fun stuff for stone-age societal engineering, but it ain't shruti. Vedic practitioners proclaim Tantric texts "smriti" (and their texts, the Vedas, shruti) Shruti is revealed, samadhic writing of some variety and would include the Vedas, but also the Tantras for Tantric practitioners would be Shruti -- but a revelation anyone can get down and Shruti to (i.e. is not dominated by a particular caste). A "higher" type of cognition is being claimed for a relatively mundane (consciousness-wise) type of text.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > > > blah blah blah > > > > Rory wrote: > > > > blah blah blah > > > "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so > many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." > > ~~ Mahatma Ghandi "Was it something I said?" -- Rory Goff :-) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning wrote: > > blah blah blah > > Rory wrote: > > blah blah blah "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." ~~ Mahatma Ghandi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > Oh paleeze, I think I'm gonna puke! Here you go on and on and on > > about your logical inferences and ways that your mind works, > > sometimes for many, many paragraphs, post after post, and with your > > so called wit, and I have never insulted you the way that you do me. > > You always try to cut me down and make fun of what I say. You are a > > real jerk, new morning. Not funny or witty or insightful. Just > > another run of the mill mean spirited jerk. If you don't like what I > > say, skip it. > > Jimmy Boy, > > I gotta tell ya, ire is beautiful on ya! Nice cut. Drapes well. > Ya's stylin' I tells ya. > > I'm a fan of yours. Could care less if you're enlightened or not, but > no matter your status, I sure think you could fill the role -- be an > authentic guru for almost anyone -- even if you chose were merely mood > making about it. I like your style and love your clarity. And when > you write about enlightenment, I read it with intense focus. Your > choice of words never disappoints. Bravo. Thanks-- it is a really enjoyable form of expression for me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quotes from the Dhammapada
Gary Smith wrote: > > This is very astute. I find myself getting caught > > up in anger for just the reasons you state. > > TurquoiseB wrote: > Don't we all. > So, you're getting angry again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: blah blah blah Rory wrote: blah blah blah :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
> Well, when are you going to show them? > Just go back a few years and you can read all about the dangers of global cooling. "In the 1970s, there was increasing awareness that estimates of global temperatures showed cooling since 1945." Global cooling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "I agree completely with this. No, you were not howling and barking, > but some were, in their headlong attempt to discredit something that > needs no discrediting." > > OK Jim, you considered my discrediting of Vedic nonsense as howling > and barking. Actually I considered your discrediting of Vedic knowledge as howling and barking. Big difference. Now that you have been presented with the inconsistency > of this claim by Rick and myself, what do you have to say? Do you > still maintain that the prescriptions in the Ayur Vedic texts, the > Charaka and Shushruta Samhitas like not looking at your own poop are a > description of what happens when you get enlightened? Impossible to say-- the state(s) of enlightenment bring value to everything. As I said, it is impossible to view each element separately and judge its value. Better to get enlightened first, then make a decision on all of this. If you are asking me personally to make a judgment on the extreme examples you are cherry picking for their alarmist value, I will not. That naturally > you no longer look at your poop after enlightenmen? Do you see how > absurd this position is? Or the punishments meted out by Caste in the > Laws of Manu which is the source of your misapplication of MMY's > quote, do you maintain that an enlightened person would pour molten > liquids in their ears if they are of low caste and hear the > scriptures? Have you ever even read any of these texts? Please see above. > I've been very curious to see what cognitive benifits that self > proclaimed enlightenment might carry. You have explained to me why > you can't manifest your claimed sidhi powers on command. Now I am > wondering if you can manifest simple honesty. You were wrong about > this and your attempt to characterize speaking up against these absurd beliefs as "howling and barking" was out of line. I don't characterize them as absurd beliefs, and you don't characterize your response as howling and barking. It looks like a balance to me. > So you are at a crossroads Jim. What is it going to be? Can you > admit being wrong about something, can you give a reason why you are > not wrong, or are you going to try to ignore counter evidence to your > statement and refuse to learn something new? You gave up th option > of quietly slipping away when you took the personal shot by your > insulting mischaracterization of my point. As I recall, "you took the personal shot by your insulting mischaracterization of my point" first, so who is also at a crossroads?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > [snip] > > > > Here's an exercise for ya'. You know those video tapes of recently > > > melting polar ice caps and the side of Greenland that proponents > use > > > as evidence of catastrophic global warming? Well, look at the > video > > > tapes of polar ice caps and Greenland from 6 or 7 hundred years ago > > > and you'll see that they melted to just the same degree. > > > > > > Let's see those video tapes from 6 or 7 hundred years ago, Magoo. > > > > > Precisely. Well, when are you going to show them?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bob Dylan Prophet?
off_world_beings wrote: > "So he drifted down to New Orleans, lucky > enough to be destroyed..." > Who knows? Almost none of Bob's lyrics make any sense. From what I've read, Bob was in New Orleans for all of four hours only once in his whole life, back in 1963. "...found a 66-year-old Dylan breathless, lovesick, and bent on revenge. Blood on the Tracks' "You're a Big Girl Now" became its corkscrew to the heart, while the crash-landing bounce of Blonde on Blonde's "Most Likely You Go Your Way (and I'll Go Mine)" had everybody holding on for dear life, including a barking, spitting, trilling Dylan, his voice all but totaled as he tried to keep up with the band and the crowd tried to keep up with him." Read more: Music Fest Live Shots: http://tinyurl.com/ysec7r Dylan Does Texas: http://tinyurl.com/2g7yuy Titles of interest: 'Bob Dylan: Behind the Shades Revisited' By Clinton Heylin Harper Paperbacks, 2003 'Down the Highway: The Life of Bob Dylan' By Howard Sounes Grove Press, 2002 'No Direction Home' By Robert Shelton Da Capo Press, 2003
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quotes from the Dhammapada
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is very astute. I find myself getting caught up in anger > for just the reasons you state. Don't we all. > In a bad way, it can feel good. > > "The problem with anger and the other toxic emotions > are that they are a *rush*. Your adrenaline starts > pumping, your heart races, and you feel *good*, in > a bad sorta way. And if your life is so empty that > you perceive this minor, low-vibe rush as *better > than* your normal, boring life, well, you can easily > get addicted to being angry, and the low-vibe rush > of the anger state of attention. That's what I think > we see in the "chronically angry." > > Have you read Thich Nhat Hanh's book called 'Anger?' It's a > book I read every year. I have not, even though it has been recommended many times. Thanks for the reminder...I'm gathering up books to read this winter while my town is some- what shut down and quiet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prissy Blissy vs Hard-Corp John Wayne Spiritualism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:25 PM, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > > > > (And the notion of some that MMY is an aghori is, well, quite > > > > > laughable.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Who on earth would make such a crazy claim? That truly IS > > hilarious, > > > > if true. > > > > > > > > > > Peter used to regularly. And while it was sort of with a wink (I > > > suppose), even the as a rough simile, it is quite funny, IMO. > > > > > > But I also don't get Jim's post -- he who has Perfect Crystalline > > > Radiant Intellect (he who has perfected the Arrogance Siddhi) about > > > prescription / description in the vedas. I assume he means MMY has > > > been selling us a crock by Prescribing ayurved, jyotish, > > > ghandarva-ved, forest academy, rajas, SV, etc instead of letting > > the > > > Totally Enlightened in the highest state of Brahman Consciousness - > > - > > > like Jim, live the totality of these things naturally, in their > > > enlightenment -- that is to live the Description of the state. I > > can > > > hardly wait to meet Jim's 12 year old wife, his slaves, watch him > > > perform the Horse sacrafice, watch his queen copulate with the > > horse > > > before all, before the horse is slaughtered, drink his own urine > > > regularly, and all. > > > > > > May my unenlightened, but quite smart friends here, help to > > decipher > > > the totality and depth of Jim's wisdom here -- radiating for > > Perfect > > > Knowledge an Perfect Intellect -- in the highest state of > > consciousness. > > > > > Sharing my experiences is arrogant? What do you call it when you do > > it? Oh...right...you don't... > > > > Jim, did you watch your trout this morning? Your perfect intellect is > fading. you're Busted dude, and all you can say in return is some lame joke about shit?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Vaj, you STILL don't Get IT, do you!!! > > > > > > Jim is not mouthing the words of MMY. This is his OWN cognition > > from > > > the state of Perfect Intellect and Perfect Knowledge, from the > > > platform from perfected Brahman Consciuosness. > > > > > > It is no wonder that we don't understand what seem to us to be > > massive > > > contradictions in the Prescriptive/Descriptive > > proclamation/cognition. > > > (And most other Wisdom Dripping utterences from Shri Jim) We can > > ONLY > > > get it when we rise to Jim's most HIGH state of awareness. > > > > > > Please! Give him the respect he deserves! > > > > > Oh paleeze, I think I'm gonna puke! > > Well be careful not to look at it. > > >Here you go on and on and on > > about your logical inferences and ways that your mind works, > > sometimes for many, many paragraphs, post after post, and with your > > so called wit, and I have never insulted you the way that you do me. > > Funny that one beyond ego, for whom all is Brahman, feels insulted. > Who and what is it that feels insulted Jim? What part of you feels > threatened? > > > You always try to cut me down and make fun of what I say. > > You post such ludicrous contradictions Jim. I at times, with others, > simply try to point them out to you. In hopes that it may lead to healing. Oh what a elephant sized load of CRAP! No, you do it because you are a mean spirited person. Why is that so hard to see? If you wanted me to get something out of it, you would engage me in a respectful discussion. But all you want to do is be a jerk, and get off on it. I geuss that makes you a jerk-off! HA!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: [snip] > > Here's an exercise for ya'. You know those video tapes of recently > > melting polar ice caps and the side of Greenland that proponents use > > as evidence of catastrophic global warming? Well, look at the video > > tapes of polar ice caps and Greenland from 6 or 7 hundred years ago > > and you'll see that they melted to just the same degree. > > > Let's see those video tapes from 6 or 7 hundred years ago, Magoo. > Precisely.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > Yeah, just the same, we better put Jim on a 24/7 watch. And of > course > > Tom, Rory and Peter. > > HA! Good one, New :-) > > A few minor points arise in response. > > While I generally feel very much at home in the company of Tom and > Peter and Jim That you make this "distinction", I assume it implies that you are less "at home" in the company of others -- those that don't patently understand you (or more succinctly, gave up interest many moons ago). Thats a shame. I find it a laudable human virtue to feel at home everywhere, and with everything. > I can honestly make no claim to being > enlightened, or ignorant, or some combination of the two, or no > combination of the two. Which is nice. It appears to be a large change from your past posts. Tom has recently made such a proclamation. Again, in my (sometimes fallible) memory -- a "refutation" -- or at least contradiction to his past posts. If you are also claiming to never have claimed to be enlightened, I might, for entertainment, do a search. For it is my vivid impression that you have. Or at least you have waxed on and on and on and on about its nature, and how others were deluding themselves by not recognizing what you had recognized, etc. Which seems, at a minimum, unwarranted if you were simply speculating about the state -- or parroting others. But frankly enlightenment does not interest me. It only interests me in that it interests you -- and I try to, in a friendly way, indulge your interests. I am far more interested in laudable human virtues: honesty, integrity, creativity, sharp intelligence, being at home everywhere, kindness, being beyond anger, compassion, friendliness, humbleness, strong memory, unconditional love, the ability to integrate vastly disparate elements, innovation, endurance, non-evasiveness, flexibility, humor, etc. I have come across some who display such exemplative features of (at least some) these qualities, to such a fascinating and sublime degree, that their example, to me, is worthy of honor, the status as a role model, and even worthy of pursuit. That you are fascinated with "I" games is of only passing interest to me. What value does your sense of self, or non-sense, have to do with the expression of human virtues? Little in theory, little in practice. So its of little interest to me. > Even a little genuine self-inquiry IME quickly reveals the "I" to be > not... not anything. Saying "I AM" is OK -- barely --, but following > it with anything at all -- even "enlightened" -- borders on > blasphemy, on hubris, on taking the Name in vain, on identification. > (Again, not that there's anything wrong with that...) I do find you more humble than some. But what I find fascinating -- perhaps it is a weakness -- is the boasting of supreme qualities, and yet the manifestation, the expression of little or none of it. Or the inability to answer direct questions about huge claims. Such are the actions of charlatans and /or fools IMO. > And yet, because "I" am ... not, by the same token "I" contain it > all. There are "I"-particles in my field who are more enlightened > than I can imagine, and particles who -- to put it gently -- show a > lot of room for improvement, and need a lot of love *right now*. Loving all that comes into our attention is a good thing, IMO, IME. > That's the way it's always been, and that's the way it'll always be, > as far as I can see. :-) > > I believe I have gone over this with you before, pointing out on > (several? many?) occasions that I am not "in Krishna Consciousness," And I have said so? Within some current standard of time? Are you referring to some conversations in 2004 or so? In the post you cite, I was making the humorous (to me) observation, connecting the dots, that if what jim said was true, that the vedas are descriptive of the state of enlightenment, then those who have claimed such, past or present, might start manifesting those behaviors -- as Rick, and I and others have recently listed from vedic accounts. And thus, the need to put those "special ones" on 24/7 observation. So they do not hurt themselves or others. > or "in" any other state of consciousness -- rather, they are all in > me. That's all pretty basic, and simple, and self-evident, and > obvious, IMO. OK. And how has this brought into your life, or enhanced, any of the above human virtues? If they have not, then your inner fantastic world is of the same interest to me as those talking glowingly and excitedly of their times taking pure Owsley. > But of course, this could not have escaped your crystalline > intellect, magnanimous heart, and brilliant recall, so I guess you're > just twitting me...again...:-) Qualities I have never claimed. Unlike Jim, and implied by others. Yet such have never, to my observation, been manifest here
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quotes from the Dhammapada
Hi Barry, This is very astute. I find myself getting caught up in anger for just the reasons you state. In a bad way, it can feel good. "The problem with anger and the other toxic emotions are that they are a *rush*. Your adrenaline starts pumping, your heart races, and you feel *good*, in a bad sorta way. And if your life is so empty that you perceive this minor, low-vibe rush as *better than* your normal, boring life, well, you can easily get addicted to being angry, and the low-vibe rush of the anger state of attention. That's what I think we see in the "chronically angry." Have you read Thich Nhat Hanh's book called 'Anger?' It's a book I read every year. http://tinyurl.com/228bv3 Best, Gary
[FairfieldLife] Causality and a 100% Correlation (Re: Quotes from the Dhammapada)
Duveyoung wrote: > When God speaks to me, can I hear the whisper? > IF, THEN, ELSE is always TRUE or NULL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to Rick Archer, I've now been able to see the video. > > > > > > > > > > I have several impressions that I'd like to convey, but I'll > > only > > > > > give one: > > > > > > > > > > Do the exact same exercise for Iran and Nuclear Weapons. > > > > > > > > > > See what course of action you come up with. > > > > > > > > You can't do the same exercise with Iran. What are > > > > your two choices along the side of the chart? > > > > > > In the video, the premise (upper left of grid where the "GCC" is > > > written) is that there will be catastrophic man-made global > warming. > > > > > > Instead, the premise is: Nuclear holocaust initiated by Iran as a > > > result of Iran developing nuclear weapons. > > > > > > You ask, Judy, what are the choices along the side of the chart: > > > they would be the same: "False" first and then "True" below it. > > > > But you have two premises for each choice: (a) whether > > Iran is developing nuclear weapons; and (b) whether > > Iran will initiate a nuclear holocaust. Obviously if > > (a) is false, (b) is also false. But if (a) is true, > > (b) might be true *or* false. > > > > In fact, the global warming chart has a similar problem: > > there should be two premises for each choice, but he's > > conflated them. So neither would be conclusive in terms > > of end results. > > > > Well, then, you were incorrect when you said, above, that "you can't > do the same exercise with Iran" because, apparently, you can. They > would just be two wrong exercises, according to you. > > > > > > > There isn't much disagreement that we want to keep Iran > > from developing nuclear weapons. The issue is how we go > > about it if Iran is in fact trying to develop them, not > > whether we want to take action or not. > > > > > > > Now discuss...oh, and remember to ask yourself: what's more > > > likely to actually happen: catastrophic global warming (man- > > > made or otherwise) or Iran actually getting nuclear weapons. > > > > Oh, gracious, clearly the former. We have no evidence > > that Iran is actually developing nuclear weapons (see > > John's post); but we have quite a bit for catastrophic > > global warming. > > > I would disagree with you profoundly on that, Judy, as you can well > imagine. I can't believe that you actually believe that Iran, left > to its own devices, won't get its hands on nuclear weapons. I find > that both sad and bizarre that you are in denial about that. > > As for predicting weather -- something no one in the history of > mankind has successfully done to any great degree -- there is zero > evidence of catastrophic man-made global warming. I haven't seen it, > nor has anyone. > > Here's an exercise for ya'. You know those video tapes of recently > melting polar ice caps and the side of Greenland that proponents use > as evidence of catastrophic global warming? Well, look at the video > tapes of polar ice caps and Greenland from 6 or 7 hundred years ago > and you'll see that they melted to just the same degree. Let's see those video tapes from 6 or 7 hundred years ago, Magoo.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, just the same, we better put Jim on a 24/7 watch. And of course > Tom, Rory and Peter. HA! Good one, New :-) A few minor points arise in response. While I generally feel very much at home in the company of Tom and Peter and Jim -- they often appear to understand me, and I them, in ways you patently do not (not that there's anything *wrong* with that, of course! :-) ) -- I can honestly make no claim to being enlightened, or ignorant, or some combination of the two, or no combination of the two. Even a little genuine self-inquiry IME quickly reveals the "I" to be not... not anything. Saying "I AM" is OK -- barely --, but following it with anything at all -- even "enlightened" -- borders on blasphemy, on hubris, on taking the Name in vain, on identification. (Again, not that there's anything wrong with that...) And yet, because "I" am ... not, by the same token "I" contain it all. There are "I"-particles in my field who are more enlightened than I can imagine, and particles who -- to put it gently -- show a lot of room for improvement, and need a lot of love *right now*. That's the way it's always been, and that's the way it'll always be, as far as I can see. :-) I believe I have gone over this with you before, pointing out on (several? many?) occasions that I am not "in Krishna Consciousness," or "in" any other state of consciousness -- rather, they are all in me. That's all pretty basic, and simple, and self-evident, and obvious, IMO. But of course, this could not have escaped your crystalline intellect, magnanimous heart, and brilliant recall, so I guess you're just twitting me...again...:-) By the way, I think "complacent" comes from the Latin cum-placere, to (be) please(d) with ... I hopes this takes some of the sting out of calling us-yourself complacent! :-) *L*L*L* Always and All-ways
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks to Rick Archer, I've now been able to see the video. > > > > > > > > I have several impressions that I'd like to convey, but I'll > only > > > > give one: > > > > > > > > Do the exact same exercise for Iran and Nuclear Weapons. > > > > > > > > See what course of action you come up with. > > > > > > You can't do the same exercise with Iran. What are > > > your two choices along the side of the chart? > > > > In the video, the premise (upper left of grid where the "GCC" is > > written) is that there will be catastrophic man-made global warming. > > > > Instead, the premise is: Nuclear holocaust initiated by Iran as a > > result of Iran developing nuclear weapons. > > > > You ask, Judy, what are the choices along the side of the chart: > > they would be the same: "False" first and then "True" below it. > > But you have two premises for each choice: (a) whether > Iran is developing nuclear weapons; and (b) whether > Iran will initiate a nuclear holocaust. Obviously if > (a) is false, (b) is also false. But if (a) is true, > (b) might be true *or* false. > > In fact, the global warming chart has a similar problem: > there should be two premises for each choice, but he's > conflated them. So neither would be conclusive in terms > of end results. Well, then, you were incorrect when you said, above, that "you can't do the same exercise with Iran" because, apparently, you can. They would just be two wrong exercises, according to you. > > There isn't much disagreement that we want to keep Iran > from developing nuclear weapons. The issue is how we go > about it if Iran is in fact trying to develop them, not > whether we want to take action or not. > > > > Now discuss...oh, and remember to ask yourself: what's more > > likely to actually happen: catastrophic global warming (man- > > made or otherwise) or Iran actually getting nuclear weapons. > > Oh, gracious, clearly the former. We have no evidence > that Iran is actually developing nuclear weapons (see > John's post); but we have quite a bit for catastrophic > global warming. I would disagree with you profoundly on that, Judy, as you can well imagine. I can't believe that you actually believe that Iran, left to its own devices, won't get its hands on nuclear weapons. I find that both sad and bizarre that you are in denial about that. As for predicting weather -- something no one in the history of mankind has successfully done to any great degree -- there is zero evidence of catastrophic man-made global warming. I haven't seen it, nor has anyone. Here's an exercise for ya'. You know those video tapes of recently melting polar ice caps and the side of Greenland that proponents use as evidence of catastrophic global warming? Well, look at the video tapes of polar ice caps and Greenland from 6 or 7 hundred years ago and you'll see that they melted to just the same degree.
[FairfieldLife] Just a Reminder to Vote Today
http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=951&Itemid=54 Remember to cast your vote for City Council board members. Polling hours in Fairfield are 7 a.m. - 8 p.m. Running for Council Member At Large (4-year term): Christy Welty; Deborah Williamson; Russel Kock; Susan Silvers. Running for 3rd Ward (4-year term): Ray Mottet; Ira Roffel. Running unopposed for Mayor (2 year-term): Edward Malloy. Running unopposed in 1st Ward: Ron Adam. Running unopposed in 5th Ward: Daryn Hamilton. Voters unable to vote at the polls on election day may vote by absentee ballot. Absentee voting is available weekdays at the Auditor's Office, 8 a.m. - 4:30 p.m., up until election day. The last day for absentee voting is Monday, November 5. Fairfield Polling Places: First Ward - Fairfield High School Gym Lobby 605 East Broadway Second Ward - Lincoln School 4th & Stone Third Ward - Nazarene Family Center 6th & Briggs Fourth Ward - Courthouse 51 E. Briggs Fifth Ward - Pence School 1006 S. 6th St. And if you support the Quiet Zone: Please vote for these candidates if you want a Quiet Zone. Note the change in our recommendation for the 4th Ward: Ira Roffel, the candidate for the 3rd Ward, has been instrumental in getting us this far. The 3rd ward is west of 4th street and north of Hwy. 34 but also includes Suburban Heights and behind Econo Foods west. STRONG RECOMMENDATION! Christy Welty for the at large seat has been a consistent supporter of the quiet zone and favors using money from closing crossings towards the cost of the quiet zone. All registered voters can vote for the at large seat. STRONG RECOMMENDATION! Martha Norbeck for the 4th ward is strong supporter of the quiet zone and favors using money from closing crossings towards the cost of the quiet zone. STRONG RECOMMENDATION! The important thing is that everyone turns out to vote. Remember that the message sent by this election will help the quiet zone to become a reality in the very near future. Please remember to forward this message to friends and family. QUIET ZONE TROPICAL RAFFLE KICKOFF WILL BE FRIDAY NOV. 9TH AT 8 P.M. AT THE OLD ARMORY. TOM MORGAN AND HIS NEW BAND WALKIN SHOES WILL ENTERTAIN. FREE AND OPEN TO EVERYONE! RAFFLE TICKETS WILL BE AVAILABLE. A REMINDER EMAIL WILL GO OUT LATER THIS WEEK. TELL YOUR FRIENDS PLEASE. Regards, Bill Blackmore
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
"I agree completely with this. No, you were not howling and barking, but some were, in their headlong attempt to discredit something that needs no discrediting." OK Jim, you considered my discrediting of Vedic nonsense as howling and barking. Now that you have been presented with the inconsistency of this claim by Rick and myself, what do you have to say? Do you still maintain that the prescriptions in the Ayur Vedic texts, the Charaka and Shushruta Samhitas like not looking at your own poop are a description of what happens when you get enlightened? That naturally you no longer look at your poop after enlightenmen? Do you see how absurd this position is? Or the punishments meted out by Caste in the Laws of Manu which is the source of your misapplication of MMY's quote, do you maintain that an enlightened person would pour molten liquids in their ears if they are of low caste and hear the scriptures? Have you ever even read any of these texts? I've been very curious to see what cognitive benifits that self proclaimed enlightenment might carry. You have explained to me why you can't manifest your claimed sidhi powers on command. Now I am wondering if you can manifest simple honesty. You were wrong about this and your attempt to characterize speaking up against these absurd beliefs as "howling and barking" was out of line. So you are at a crossroads Jim. What is it going to be? Can you admit being wrong about something, can you give a reason why you are not wrong, or are you going to try to ignore counter evidence to your statement and refuse to learn something new? You gave up th option of quietly slipping away when you took the personal shot by your insulting mischaracterization of my point. What the TMO is doing is trying to emulate enlightened action vs gaining the enlightenment first. As I said, the vedic literature is descriptive, not perscriptive. Just like Buddha naturally practiced mindfulness, because it is a natural result of enlightenment, and yet many buddhists see it as a prescriptive action to gain enlightenment. All of the religions do the same thing, and to the extent that the TMO is a religious org, they do too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > I reckon a new enlightened civilisation would implement the > > discoveries of it's own science into it's explanation of reality, > we > > have relativity, quantum physics and an understanding of evolution > > through natural selection. These are the high points of human > > achievement, so far. They are objectively verifiable, the vedic > > civilisation didn't have this logical way of revealing natures > > secrets. It's no shame to enjoy the fruits of their inner wisdom > and > > meditate while at the same time understanding that their view of > the > > world and codes for living are just that, an attempt to explain > > nature and a way of organising society. It's the TMO that has it > > wrong by trying to re-introduce this as though it's absolute > truth, > > instead of seeing it for what it is, a sometimes beautiful and > > sometimes weird and even revolting (to us) way of life. > > > > IMO getting to know you're inner-self should be liberating not > > enslave you to the past. > > > I agree completely with this. No, you were not howling and barking, > but some were, in their headlong attempt to discredit something that > needs no discrediting. > > What the TMO is doing is trying to emulate enlightened action vs > gaining the enlightenment first. As I said, the vedic literature is > descriptive, not perscriptive. Just like Buddha naturally practiced > mindfulness, because it is a natural result of enlightenment, and > yet many buddhists see it as a prescriptive action to gain > enlightenment. All of the religions do the same thing, and to the > extent that the TMO is a religious org, they do too. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks to Rick Archer, I've now been able to see the video. > > > > > > I have several impressions that I'd like to convey, but I'll only > > > give one: > > > > > > Do the exact same exercise for Iran and Nuclear Weapons. > > > > > > See what course of action you come up with. > > > > You can't do the same exercise with Iran. What are > > your two choices along the side of the chart? > > In the video, the premise (upper left of grid where the "GCC" is > written) is that there will be catastrophic man-made global warming. > > Instead, the premise is: Nuclear holocaust initiated by Iran as a > result of Iran developing nuclear weapons. > > You ask, Judy, what are the choices along the side of the chart: > they would be the same: "False" first and then "True" below it. But you have two premises for each choice: (a) whether Iran is developing nuclear weapons; and (b) whether Iran will initiate a nuclear holocaust. Obviously if (a) is false, (b) is also false. But if (a) is true, (b) might be true *or* false. In fact, the global warming chart has a similar problem: there should be two premises for each choice, but he's conflated them. So neither would be conclusive in terms of end results. There isn't much disagreement that we want to keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons. The issue is how we go about it if Iran is in fact trying to develop them, not whether we want to take action or not. > Now discuss...oh, and remember to ask yourself: what's more > likely to actually happen: catastrophic global warming (man- > made or otherwise) or Iran actually getting nuclear weapons. Oh, gracious, clearly the former. We have no evidence that Iran is actually developing nuclear weapons (see John's post); but we have quite a bit for catastrophic global warming.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation
So Edg, Best I can tell from your rajo-gun induced rant is that you think being gay is a bad thing. That being called gay is an insult. Thats being homo-phobic I believe. Which is scary -- given that your apparent savior complex make your feel that you need to impart your wisdom to "kids". Everyone under 30 -- by your definition. So imparting homophobia -- nope not a good thing. Imparting women should be dependent on men (subserviant too?), needing them to be white knights, because they only have "silly little minds". Nope not a good thing. Writing wildly incoherently at times. Nope, not a good thing. I am much more concerned with you being within 50 feet of anyone under 30 than I am of Curtis or Barry talking to a 20 year old. But thats just my opinion. And probably not worth a post. Except I am fascinated by large-scale contradictions -- and the blindness of some to them. Particularly those professing some spiritual or inner attainment. Or a grandfatherly state of wisdom and maturity. I am blind to somethings too -- I am sure (being blind to them though, I don't know -- yet -- what they are.) I see some though, that revel in finding their own blind spots. Others appear to feel quite threatened by the prospect of them. Or their being pointed out. (And its a bad day in Dodge when Brahman, or even Granddad, feels threatened.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alex, > > What a cheap fucking shot. > > What a cheap fucking shot. > > It's worth a post of mine to call you to accounts for this arbitrary > attack. > > For you to put down the sport of trikking that has upped the health of > hundreds of thousands of owners of Trikkes is sheer fucking meanness > and equal to Anne Coulter using the word "faggot" in the same sentence > as "John Edwards." > > Get that? You're here in a spiritual community being a cowardly > pissant trying to toss a tomato from the back of a crowd and hoping to > get away with it. > > You're swiftboating a sport in order to make me out the fool here, > and, not incidentally, you've besmirched homosexuality in an era of > political correctitude, and thus shown yourself to be homophobic -- > which, to professionals, is a massive tell of your own denying of > dissonant, inner, latent, gender-identification issues. (You're > queer, adjust to it, grab a man, and be happier.) > > As if you could make a fool of me here. I do that well enough thank > you, and the community is hardly improved by the emotion you're > showing yourself to indulge in when you create such barbs from what > can only be assumed to be a corrosive sickness in your deepest psyche. > > It's low, it's crude, it's a horrid dynamic of your psychology, and it > just must be fucking up your life left and right for you to come out > of nowhere and simply attack for attack's sake. Do you really think > that the emotion you felt driving your producing such a foul spitwad > is going to be extinguished by this one shitheel manifestation? > > Ha! It's an all-time reality for you, Dude, and the finger you just > pointed at me is accompanied by the other three fingers of your hand > pointing at you. I too have a finger pointed at you -- guess which one. > > Poor poor you. Holy shit, what a skewing of your mind and what a > havoc your life must be to struggle with such a burden. I'd feel > sorry for you, but you simply don't deserve it. > > And the funny thing is, is that I'm not defending Trikkes right now, > but I am defending the community here from the travail of watching an > asshole's incompetency being unresisted and allowed to pass for > "conversation." > > You are a psychological criminal -- your willingness to be a > conceptual rapist just oozes in all your posts. > > The only thing that could change my mind about you now is if someone > tells me you're under 30 years of age. Then, it's just a case of > juvenile rascality trying to pull a chain just because you can, but > I'm thinking most likely you're aura is filled with red streaks, your > mind with angst, and your mouth with bile. Your daily fare. Ugh. > > I trikke everyday in front of many people, and all I get is sincere > questions, statements of approval and awe, and genuine entertainment > from merely seeing this human-powered use of the conservation of > angular momentum law. > > At least I'm being refreshingly new when I'm hurling the puke, but > your attempts are laughably immature in addition to being bereft of > any creativity. > > Look, at least try to come up to my standards when you try to flame. > > Here's the height of the bar. See if you can do as well as the below > when you next attack. > > "Edg, you creepazoid monster of pride, you putrid pus bag of ego, you > evil minion of narcissism -- only trikking could have made you appear > more twisted and bizarre. Mission accomplished." > > See? Now that's flaming, you sniveling prick. > > And may I ju
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > Put you on a divan with a dhoti and flowers and a mike, and you'd > > be a guru of deep value to 99% of the folks who'd come to you. Put > > Barry or Curtis or Alex or Off or Shemp or New in a dhoti, and it'd > > be a joke. > > In my case, the joke would be purely intentional. I do a pretty good > Indian accent, and one of my little comedy shtick personae is Swami > Gulabjamunanda, who skewers (conceptually rapes?) the guru business > and various deeply-held dogmas about enlightenment. Youtube beckons my friend. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Put you on a divan with a dhoti and flowers and a mike, and you'd > be a guru of deep value to 99% of the folks who'd come to you. Put > Barry or Curtis or Alex or Off or Shemp or New in a dhoti, and it'd > be a joke. In my case, the joke would be purely intentional. I do a pretty good Indian accent, and one of my little comedy shtick personae is Swami Gulabjamunanda, who skewers (conceptually rapes?) the guru business and various deeply-held dogmas about enlightenment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Thanks to Rick Archer, I've now been able to see the video. > > > > I have several impressions that I'd like to convey, but I'll only > > give one: > > > > Do the exact same exercise for Iran and Nuclear Weapons. > > > > See what course of action you come up with. > > You can't do the same exercise with Iran. What are > your two choices along the side of the chart? > In the video, the premise (upper left of grid where the "GCC" is written) is that there will be catastrophic man-made global warming. Instead, the premise is: Nuclear holocaust initiated by Iran as a result of Iran developing nuclear weapons. You ask, Judy, what are the choices along the side of the chart: they would be the same: "False" first and then "True" below it. Along the top of the grid would be the same "A" and "B" action representing, respectively "yes" and "no". Now discuss...oh, and remember to ask yourself: what's more likely to actually happen: catastrophic global warming (man-made or otherwise) or Iran actually getting nuclear weapons. Gee, care to speculate on what the odds are of each of the above?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quotes from the Dhammapada
Is Toilet Paper vedic.? Or would Maharishi insist only on water to clean up so that it keeps the consiousness pure. Shemp thinks Butterflies come out of MMY.!! Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 06:09:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quotes from the Dhammapada This whole "turd in the toilet" problem (TTP) is just another example of the confounding of states of mind with pure consciousness. I have no problem believing that the darshan of human waste would diminish ones mental state due to its tamasic nature, but would it impact pure consciousness, no. Another comment: how weak does one's mind have to be to be impacted by TTP? Pretty weak in my book. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:08 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See) jstein wrote: > You can't do the same exercise with Iran. What are > your two choices along the side of the chart? > According to the moderator, you are way over your posting limit. Better put a lid on it! I meant to type “35.” She’s not over. Rick Archer wrote: > 59 posts since Friday midnight. Judy has 30. No one else > is very close. The limit is 25 per week. Please keep a > tally of your own posts. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/1112 - Release Date: 11/5/2007 7:11 PM
[FairfieldLife] The Healing Power of Laughter
Every few months I think back on my time with the Rama guy, and every time I do, I find myself thank- ful for something he taught me that was unique, something I haven't really seen that often on the spiritual smorgabord. One of these unique teachings was about the healing power of laughter. "What," you say? "That's not unique...there have been lots of spiritual teachers who taught about the healing power of laughing. There have even been scientific studies about the healing power of laughing." While this may be true, I wasn't talking about the healing power of laughing. I was talking about the healing power of being laughed at. Whatever else you may say about the Rama cult, we laughed a lot. At Rama's jokes, at the movies we'd go see together, in the desert, at home...laughter was a big thing in the Rama trip. And one of the things we got used to laughing at -- and to having it *be* laughed at -- was our self. Selves (small s) were "fair game" for laughter in the Rama trip. If you had an ego on you, it was going to be laughed at and made the butt of jokes, often in front of hundreds of other people. That was one of Rama's techniques for wearing away the hold that egos had on his students -- make fun of them and laugh at them. Not at the students, mind you. Only at their egos. And the egos cringed when laughed at. They felt a twinge of resentment or anger at being laughed at. But, possibly because the attention levels were so high while this laughter was going on, something would "snap" and you'd realize that all these people laughing at you were *right*, and that the machin- ations of your ego in this case *were* laughable, and the damnedest thing would happen. You'd find yourself laughing along with the people laughing at you. And I have to tell you, that's one of the neatest spiritual experiences I think you can have. Because the being laughing at his own ego is no longer that ego. Something has happened to shift one's identification with that ego, to knock it out of place enough so that one can see it for what it really is, and laugh at it. It's a real Castanedan shift-your-assemblage-poing experience. When someone makes fun of you, if their intent is clean, what they're doing is making *fun*. They're creating a kind of koan-like doorway into a world that is more *fun* than the one you're in now. They are saying to you, "Dude...you're so *serious*, and over such mediocre shit. Lighten UP, and join the party." And if you can get this, you really *can* join the party. There are few things in life more liberating than getting to that point where you can laugh at your self. The very process of doing so seems to loosen the hold that that self has on the inner you, the one that would be laughing most of the time if that oh-so-serious self weren't in the way. Laughing at your self knocks it out of the way, and what is left is the eternal laughter of Self. In my experience, I think I learned more from and benefited more from those moments in which I was able to laugh at my own assholiness than I ever did from all that talk about holiness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
"Put Barry or > Curtis or Alex or Off or Shemp or New in a dhoti, and it'd be a joke." I wore one at my Vedic wedding. It made me look totally gay. Hey Edg, your "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" routine is also very gay. Now figure out which use of the word was I using in each case. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > Oh paleeze, I think I'm gonna puke! Here you go on and on and on > > about your logical inferences and ways that your mind works, > > sometimes for many, many paragraphs, post after post, and with your > > so called wit, and I have never insulted you the way that you do me. > > You always try to cut me down and make fun of what I say. You are a > > real jerk, new morning. Not funny or witty or insightful. Just > > another run of the mill mean spirited jerk. If you don't like what I > > say, skip it. > > Jimmy Boy, > > I gotta tell ya, ire is beautiful on ya! Nice cut. Drapes well. > Ya's stylin' I tells ya. > > I'm a fan of yours. Could care less if you're enlightened or not, but > no matter your status, I sure think you could fill the role -- be an > authentic guru for almost anyone -- even if you chose were merely mood > making about it. I like your style and love your clarity. And when > you write about enlightenment, I read it with intense focus. Your > choice of words never disappoints. Bravo. > > Put you on a divan with a dhoti and flowers and a mike, and you'd be a > guru of deep value to 99% of the folks who'd come to you. Put Barry or > Curtis or Alex or Off or Shemp or New in a dhoti, and it'd be a joke. > > I would drive a hundred miles to have lunch with ya. > > Edg >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > You're swiftboating a sport in order to make me out the fool here, > > and, not incidentally, you've besmirched homosexuality in an era of > > political correctitude, and thus shown yourself to be homophobic -- > > which, to professionals, is a massive tell of your own denying of > > dissonant, inner, latent, gender-identification issues. (You're > > queer, adjust to it, grab a man, and be happier.) > > I describe myself as a "Meat-eating Sodomite living in > a Hindu enclave of Jesusland." I've been out of the closet for about > 14 years. > > But, hey! Thanks for the great rant! Snap! Now THATS entertainment! >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
jstein wrote: > You can't do the same exercise with Iran. What are > your two choices along the side of the chart? > According to the moderator, you are way over your posting limit. Better put a lid on it! Rick Archer wrote: > 59 posts since Friday midnight. Judy has 30. No one else > is very close. The limit is 25 per week. Please keep a > tally of your own posts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > > > Vaj, you STILL don't Get IT, do you!!! > > > > Jim is not mouthing the words of MMY. This is his OWN cognition > from > > the state of Perfect Intellect and Perfect Knowledge, from the > > platform from perfected Brahman Consciuosness. > > > > It is no wonder that we don't understand what seem to us to be > massive > > contradictions in the Prescriptive/Descriptive > proclamation/cognition. > > (And most other Wisdom Dripping utterences from Shri Jim) We can > ONLY > > get it when we rise to Jim's most HIGH state of awareness. > > > > Please! Give him the respect he deserves! > > > Oh paleeze, I think I'm gonna puke! Well be careful not to look at it. >Here you go on and on and on > about your logical inferences and ways that your mind works, > sometimes for many, many paragraphs, post after post, and with your > so called wit, and I have never insulted you the way that you do me. Funny that one beyond ego, for whom all is Brahman, feels insulted. Who and what is it that feels insulted Jim? What part of you feels threatened? > You always try to cut me down and make fun of what I say. You post such ludicrous contradictions Jim. I at times, with others, simply try to point them out to you. In hopes that it may lead to healing. > You are a > real jerk, new morning. Ah, the real Jim stands up. Good to see the infinite compassion, all is brahman, "I am Perfect Intellect", "Everything is Perfect", "Love What Is", perfectly established intellect and emotions, beyond rajo guna-born of anger-- facade drop away for a bit. >Not funny or witty or insightful. Just > another run of the mill mean spirited jerk. If you don't like what I > say, skip it. I suppose you might take the same advice. But I suppose that may be to logical or consistent for you to follow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
"jim_flanegin" wrote: > Oh paleeze, I think I'm gonna puke! Here you go on and on and on > about your logical inferences and ways that your mind works, > sometimes for many, many paragraphs, post after post, and with your > so called wit, and I have never insulted you the way that you do me. > You always try to cut me down and make fun of what I say. You are a > real jerk, new morning. Not funny or witty or insightful. Just > another run of the mill mean spirited jerk. If you don't like what I > say, skip it. Jimmy Boy, I gotta tell ya, ire is beautiful on ya! Nice cut. Drapes well. Ya's stylin' I tells ya. I'm a fan of yours. Could care less if you're enlightened or not, but no matter your status, I sure think you could fill the role -- be an authentic guru for almost anyone -- even if you chose were merely mood making about it. I like your style and love your clarity. And when you write about enlightenment, I read it with intense focus. Your choice of words never disappoints. Bravo. Put you on a divan with a dhoti and flowers and a mike, and you'd be a guru of deep value to 99% of the folks who'd come to you. Put Barry or Curtis or Alex or Off or Shemp or New in a dhoti, and it'd be a joke. I would drive a hundred miles to have lunch with ya. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're swiftboating a sport in order to make me out the fool here, > and, not incidentally, you've besmirched homosexuality in an era of > political correctitude, and thus shown yourself to be homophobic -- > which, to professionals, is a massive tell of your own denying of > dissonant, inner, latent, gender-identification issues. (You're > queer, adjust to it, grab a man, and be happier.) I describe myself as a "Meat-eating Sodomite living in a Hindu enclave of Jesusland." I've been out of the closet for about 14 years. But, hey! Thanks for the great rant!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prissy Blissy vs Hard-Corp John Wayne Spiritualism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:25 PM, new.morning wrote: > > > > > > > (And the notion of some that MMY is an aghori is, well, quite > > > > laughable.) > > > > > > > > > Who on earth would make such a crazy claim? That truly IS > hilarious, > > > if true. > > > > > > > Peter used to regularly. And while it was sort of with a wink (I > > suppose), even the as a rough simile, it is quite funny, IMO. > > > > But I also don't get Jim's post -- he who has Perfect Crystalline > > Radiant Intellect (he who has perfected the Arrogance Siddhi) about > > prescription / description in the vedas. I assume he means MMY has > > been selling us a crock by Prescribing ayurved, jyotish, > > ghandarva-ved, forest academy, rajas, SV, etc instead of letting > the > > Totally Enlightened in the highest state of Brahman Consciousness - > - > > like Jim, live the totality of these things naturally, in their > > enlightenment -- that is to live the Description of the state. I > can > > hardly wait to meet Jim's 12 year old wife, his slaves, watch him > > perform the Horse sacrafice, watch his queen copulate with the > horse > > before all, before the horse is slaughtered, drink his own urine > > regularly, and all. > > > > May my unenlightened, but quite smart friends here, help to > decipher > > the totality and depth of Jim's wisdom here -- radiating for > Perfect > > Knowledge an Perfect Intellect -- in the highest state of > consciousness. > > > Sharing my experiences is arrogant? What do you call it when you do > it? Oh...right...you don't... > Jim, did you watch your trout this morning? Your perfect intellect is fading. I said nothing about sharing experience as arrogant. And I have shared a number myself over the years. But not in the tone of your post -- one-upmanship "my consciousness big swinging dick is bigger than yours". My joke regarding you, and other self-proclaimed perfected ones having mastered the Arrogance Siddhi, is all about your claims to having a Perfect Crystalline Radiant Intellect, Perfect Knowledge -- in the highest state of perfected Brahaman Consciousness -- and then making silly contradictory statements over and over again. And I see you punted, as usual, and refused to address such contradictions and shortcomings, but choose to divert attention to fantasies that you make up. But that is natural for one who has perfected the Red Herring Siddi. All the best to you and your fantastic inner world Jim.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation
Could you help me pick out some drapes and matching wall coverings? I think a Trikke motif would be so fab! :-) On Nov 6, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Alex, What a cheap fucking shot. What a cheap fucking shot. It's worth a post of mine to call you to accounts for this arbitrary attack. For you to put down the sport of trikking that has upped the health of hundreds of thousands of owners of Trikkes is sheer fucking meanness and equal to Anne Coulter using the word "faggot" in the same sentence as "John Edwards." Get that? You're here in a spiritual community being a cowardly pissant trying to toss a tomato from the back of a crowd and hoping to get away with it. You're swiftboating a sport in order to make me out the fool here, and, not incidentally, you've besmirched homosexuality in an era of political correctitude, and thus shown yourself to be homophobic -- which, to professionals, is a massive tell of your own denying of dissonant, inner, latent, gender-identification issues. (You're queer, adjust to it, grab a man, and be happier.) As if you could make a fool of me here. I do that well enough thank you, and the community is hardly improved by the emotion you're showing yourself to indulge in when you create such barbs from what can only be assumed to be a corrosive sickness in your deepest psyche. It's low, it's crude, it's a horrid dynamic of your psychology, and it just must be fucking up your life left and right for you to come out of nowhere and simply attack for attack's sake. Do you really think that the emotion you felt driving your producing such a foul spitwad is going to be extinguished by this one shitheel manifestation? Ha! It's an all-time reality for you, Dude, and the finger you just pointed at me is accompanied by the other three fingers of your hand pointing at you. I too have a finger pointed at you -- guess which one. Poor poor you. Holy shit, what a skewing of your mind and what a havoc your life must be to struggle with such a burden. I'd feel sorry for you, but you simply don't deserve it. And the funny thing is, is that I'm not defending Trikkes right now, but I am defending the community here from the travail of watching an asshole's incompetency being unresisted and allowed to pass for "conversation." You are a psychological criminal -- your willingness to be a conceptual rapist just oozes in all your posts. The only thing that could change my mind about you now is if someone tells me you're under 30 years of age. Then, it's just a case of juvenile rascality trying to pull a chain just because you can, but I'm thinking most likely you're aura is filled with red streaks, your mind with angst, and your mouth with bile. Your daily fare. Ugh. I trikke everyday in front of many people, and all I get is sincere questions, statements of approval and awe, and genuine entertainment from merely seeing this human-powered use of the conservation of angular momentum law. At least I'm being refreshingly new when I'm hurling the puke, but your attempts are laughably immature in addition to being bereft of any creativity. Look, at least try to come up to my standards when you try to flame. Here's the height of the bar. See if you can do as well as the below when you next attack. "Edg, you creepazoid monster of pride, you putrid pus bag of ego, you evil minion of narcissism -- only trikking could have made you appear more twisted and bizarre. Mission accomplished." See? Now that's flaming, you sniveling prick. And may I just add: fuck you with a fire hydrant while you're being waterboarded. Ah, I feel lighter, holier, victorious! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > At least we now have the answer to the age old question: "Is there > > anything on earth gayer than a Cher concert." > > At the risk of raising explosive ire, my first thought upon seeing one > of those Trikke videos was "that is so gay, even *I'd* be embarrassed > to be seen riding on one." >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > So are the Laws of Manu. Maharishi once gave me the project of > > > correlating the scientific charts on TM with the Laws of Manu. They > > > prescribe many gruesome punishments for various sins. If you sleep > > > with your teacher's wife, you have to cut off your genitals and > > > walk to the southwest, holding them in your hands, until you bleed > > > to death. Other punishments include being shaven with the urine of > > > an ass, making young people who have sex out of wedlock lie on a > > > bed of red-hot iron, and this little gem: "molten lead has to be > > > poured into the ears of those 'low born' who dare to hear the > > > recital of the written word" > > > > > > I can't imagine anyone "spontaneously" doing any of these things > > > based on their level of consciousness. > > And of course you're right on this. That's why they're called "Duty > > Scriptures" (dharma-shastras), they prescribe the duties of certain > > varnas of people. > > > > It never ceases to amaze me what people will believe just because it > > is uttered by someone dressed as a yogi. > > > Vaj, you STILL don't Get IT, do you!!! > > Jim is not mouthing the words of MMY. This is his OWN cognition from > the state of Perfect Intellect and Perfect Knowledge, from the > platform from perfected Brahman Consciuosness. > > It is no wonder that we don't understand what seem to us to be massive > contradictions in the Prescriptive/Descriptive proclamation/cognition. > (And most other Wisdom Dripping utterences from Shri Jim) We can ONLY > get it when we rise to Jim's most HIGH state of awareness. > > Please! Give him the respect he deserves! > Oh paleeze, I think I'm gonna puke! Here you go on and on and on about your logical inferences and ways that your mind works, sometimes for many, many paragraphs, post after post, and with your so called wit, and I have never insulted you the way that you do me. You always try to cut me down and make fun of what I say. You are a real jerk, new morning. Not funny or witty or insightful. Just another run of the mill mean spirited jerk. If you don't like what I say, skip it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prissy Blissy vs Hard-Corp John Wayne Spiritualism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:25 PM, new.morning wrote: > > > > > (And the notion of some that MMY is an aghori is, well, quite > > > laughable.) > > > > > > Who on earth would make such a crazy claim? That truly IS hilarious, > > if true. > > > > Peter used to regularly. And while it was sort of with a wink (I > suppose), even the as a rough simile, it is quite funny, IMO. > > But I also don't get Jim's post -- he who has Perfect Crystalline > Radiant Intellect (he who has perfected the Arrogance Siddhi) about > prescription / description in the vedas. I assume he means MMY has > been selling us a crock by Prescribing ayurved, jyotish, > ghandarva-ved, forest academy, rajas, SV, etc instead of letting the > Totally Enlightened in the highest state of Brahman Consciousness - - > like Jim, live the totality of these things naturally, in their > enlightenment -- that is to live the Description of the state. I can > hardly wait to meet Jim's 12 year old wife, his slaves, watch him > perform the Horse sacrafice, watch his queen copulate with the horse > before all, before the horse is slaughtered, drink his own urine > regularly, and all. > > May my unenlightened, but quite smart friends here, help to decipher > the totality and depth of Jim's wisdom here -- radiating for Perfect > Knowledge an Perfect Intellect -- in the highest state of consciousness. > Sharing my experiences is arrogant? What do you call it when you do it? Oh...right...you don't...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And now for the rest of the story...
On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:30 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: I think they look like new-age Klansmen. Sal Are you giving Angela your posts again Sal? Forgot to do that--thanks for reminding me, Curtis. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So to tie up this little useless exercise let's see if > we can use them all together: > > Edg is gay for Trikkes, which Alex believes makes him > look gay, but Edg is not really gay, he just rides a > trikke because it makes him gay. You've got to admit, though, Edg worrying about whether riding his Trikke makes him look gay enough that some guy is eyeing his ass is a step up from worrying whether his girlfriend is laugh- ing at him behind his back when she gets together with her friends. Credit where credit is due, dude. This is progress. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm not here.
I saw an advanced screening at the director's guild. I think it will be released pretty soon. s.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation
Wow! Edg, what do think this is all about, anyway? ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alex, > > What a cheap fucking shot. > > What a cheap fucking shot. > > It's worth a post of mine to call you to accounts for this arbitrary > attack. > > For you to put down the sport of trikking that has upped the health of > hundreds of thousands of owners of Trikkes is sheer fucking meanness > and equal to Anne Coulter using the word "faggot" in the same sentence > as "John Edwards." > > Get that? You're here in a spiritual community being a cowardly > pissant trying to toss a tomato from the back of a crowd and hoping to > get away with it. > > You're swiftboating a sport in order to make me out the fool here, > and, not incidentally, you've besmirched homosexuality in an era of > political correctitude, and thus shown yourself to be homophobic -- > which, to professionals, is a massive tell of your own denying of > dissonant, inner, latent, gender-identification issues. (You're > queer, adjust to it, grab a man, and be happier.) > > As if you could make a fool of me here. I do that well enough thank > you, and the community is hardly improved by the emotion you're > showing yourself to indulge in when you create such barbs from what > can only be assumed to be a corrosive sickness in your deepest psyche. > > It's low, it's crude, it's a horrid dynamic of your psychology, and it > just must be fucking up your life left and right for you to come out > of nowhere and simply attack for attack's sake. Do you really think > that the emotion you felt driving your producing such a foul spitwad > is going to be extinguished by this one shitheel manifestation? > > Ha! It's an all-time reality for you, Dude, and the finger you just > pointed at me is accompanied by the other three fingers of your hand > pointing at you. I too have a finger pointed at you -- guess which one. > > Poor poor you. Holy shit, what a skewing of your mind and what a > havoc your life must be to struggle with such a burden. I'd feel > sorry for you, but you simply don't deserve it. > > And the funny thing is, is that I'm not defending Trikkes right now, > but I am defending the community here from the travail of watching an > asshole's incompetency being unresisted and allowed to pass for > "conversation." > > You are a psychological criminal -- your willingness to be a > conceptual rapist just oozes in all your posts. > > The only thing that could change my mind about you now is if someone > tells me you're under 30 years of age. Then, it's just a case of > juvenile rascality trying to pull a chain just because you can, but > I'm thinking most likely you're aura is filled with red streaks, your > mind with angst, and your mouth with bile. Your daily fare. Ugh. > > I trikke everyday in front of many people, and all I get is sincere > questions, statements of approval and awe, and genuine entertainment > from merely seeing this human-powered use of the conservation of > angular momentum law. > > At least I'm being refreshingly new when I'm hurling the puke, but > your attempts are laughably immature in addition to being bereft of > any creativity. > > Look, at least try to come up to my standards when you try to flame. > > Here's the height of the bar. See if you can do as well as the below > when you next attack. > > "Edg, you creepazoid monster of pride, you putrid pus bag of ego, you > evil minion of narcissism -- only trikking could have made you appear > more twisted and bizarre. Mission accomplished." > > See? Now that's flaming, you sniveling prick. > > And may I just add: fuck you with a fire hydrant while you're being > waterboarded. > > Ah, I feel lighter, holier, victorious! > > Edg > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > At least we now have the answer to the age old question: "Is there > > > anything on earth gayer than a Cher concert." > > > > At the risk of raising explosive ire, my first thought upon seeing one > > of those Trikke videos was "that is so gay, even *I'd* be embarrassed > > to be seen riding on one." > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > At least we now have the answer to the age old question: "Is there > > anything on earth gayer than a Cher concert." > > At the risk of raising explosive ire, my first thought upon seeing one > of those Trikke videos was "that is so gay, even *I'd* be embarrassed > to be seen riding on one." I'm guessing you know it is Edg with the Trikke. Explosive ire is so gay when it gets raised. Perhaps they would de-gay it a bit if they would drop that affected second "K" in the spelling? I am in favor of all balance sports, but if a "Trikker" ever wore those spandex pants that serious bicyclists wear then Elton John would have to write a song about it. The word "gay" is going through a meaning shift. It meant happy till it was taken over as a sexual preference. Then young people hijacked and used it where my generation used to use "queer". "That is so gay" has nothing to do with owning any CD by Liza Minnelli for them. The last change came from the Simpsons who use it to mean attracted to as in: Bart claims "Lisa is gay for Mole Man" to which Mole Man sadly responds "No one is gay for Mole Man" So to tie up this little useless exercise let's see if we can use them all together: Edg is gay for Trikkes, which Alex believes makes him look gay,but Edg is not really gay, he just rides a trikke because it makes him gay. And people wonder what we non TM people do with our extra time without the program! >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation
Alex, What a cheap fucking shot. What a cheap fucking shot. It's worth a post of mine to call you to accounts for this arbitrary attack. For you to put down the sport of trikking that has upped the health of hundreds of thousands of owners of Trikkes is sheer fucking meanness and equal to Anne Coulter using the word "faggot" in the same sentence as "John Edwards." Get that? You're here in a spiritual community being a cowardly pissant trying to toss a tomato from the back of a crowd and hoping to get away with it. You're swiftboating a sport in order to make me out the fool here, and, not incidentally, you've besmirched homosexuality in an era of political correctitude, and thus shown yourself to be homophobic -- which, to professionals, is a massive tell of your own denying of dissonant, inner, latent, gender-identification issues. (You're queer, adjust to it, grab a man, and be happier.) As if you could make a fool of me here. I do that well enough thank you, and the community is hardly improved by the emotion you're showing yourself to indulge in when you create such barbs from what can only be assumed to be a corrosive sickness in your deepest psyche. It's low, it's crude, it's a horrid dynamic of your psychology, and it just must be fucking up your life left and right for you to come out of nowhere and simply attack for attack's sake. Do you really think that the emotion you felt driving your producing such a foul spitwad is going to be extinguished by this one shitheel manifestation? Ha! It's an all-time reality for you, Dude, and the finger you just pointed at me is accompanied by the other three fingers of your hand pointing at you. I too have a finger pointed at you -- guess which one. Poor poor you. Holy shit, what a skewing of your mind and what a havoc your life must be to struggle with such a burden. I'd feel sorry for you, but you simply don't deserve it. And the funny thing is, is that I'm not defending Trikkes right now, but I am defending the community here from the travail of watching an asshole's incompetency being unresisted and allowed to pass for "conversation." You are a psychological criminal -- your willingness to be a conceptual rapist just oozes in all your posts. The only thing that could change my mind about you now is if someone tells me you're under 30 years of age. Then, it's just a case of juvenile rascality trying to pull a chain just because you can, but I'm thinking most likely you're aura is filled with red streaks, your mind with angst, and your mouth with bile. Your daily fare. Ugh. I trikke everyday in front of many people, and all I get is sincere questions, statements of approval and awe, and genuine entertainment from merely seeing this human-powered use of the conservation of angular momentum law. At least I'm being refreshingly new when I'm hurling the puke, but your attempts are laughably immature in addition to being bereft of any creativity. Look, at least try to come up to my standards when you try to flame. Here's the height of the bar. See if you can do as well as the below when you next attack. "Edg, you creepazoid monster of pride, you putrid pus bag of ego, you evil minion of narcissism -- only trikking could have made you appear more twisted and bizarre. Mission accomplished." See? Now that's flaming, you sniveling prick. And may I just add: fuck you with a fire hydrant while you're being waterboarded. Ah, I feel lighter, holier, victorious! Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > At least we now have the answer to the age old question: "Is there > > anything on earth gayer than a Cher concert." > > At the risk of raising explosive ire, my first thought upon seeing one > of those Trikke videos was "that is so gay, even *I'd* be embarrassed > to be seen riding on one." >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
On Nov 6, 2007, at 12:32 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > So are the Laws of Manu. Maharishi once gave me the project of > > correlating the scientific charts on TM with the Laws of Manu. They > > prescribe many gruesome punishments for various sins. If you sleep > > with your teacher's wife, you have to cut off your genitals and > > walk to the southwest, holding them in your hands, until you bleed > > to death. Other punishments include being shaven with the urine of > > an ass, making young people who have sex out of wedlock lie on a > > bed of red-hot iron, and this little gem: "molten lead has to be > > poured into the ears of those 'low born' who dare to hear the > > recital of the written word" > > > > I can't imagine anyone "spontaneously" doing any of these things > > based on their level of consciousness. > And of course you're right on this. That's why they're called "Duty > Scriptures" (dharma-shastras), they prescribe the duties of certain > varnas of people. > > It never ceases to amaze me what people will believe just because it > is uttered by someone dressed as a yogi. Vaj, you STILL don't Get IT, do you!!! Jim is not mouthing the words of MMY. This is his OWN cognition from the state of Perfect Intellect and Perfect Knowledge, from the platform from perfected Brahman Consciuosness. Oh, sorry, I must have missed that! It is no wonder that we don't understand what seem to us to be massive contradictions in the Prescriptive/Descriptive proclamation/cognition. (And most other Wisdom Dripping utterences from Shri Jim) We can ONLY get it when we rise to Jim's most HIGH state of awareness. Please! Give him the respect he deserves! I thought I was . ;-) Jai Guru Dev
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
On Nov 6, 2007, at 12:10 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 5, 2007, at 4:48 PM, bob_brigante wrote: > > > MMY sits on a deerskin to insulate himself from the energy drain from > > creatures living at a lower level of life. > > > Bullshit. A deerskin asana is for power, money, to magnetize > followers and for siddhis. > Whats a tiger skin for? Conquering the passions or something like that. And other skins and asanas (kuti grass an all)? I'd have to look them up. Deer are related to sound, since there are very sensitive to sound, so they were presumably good for mantra- siddhi and for maintaining that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > So are the Laws of Manu. Maharishi once gave me the project of > > correlating the scientific charts on TM with the Laws of Manu. They > > prescribe many gruesome punishments for various sins. If you sleep > > with your teacher's wife, you have to cut off your genitals and > > walk to the southwest, holding them in your hands, until you bleed > > to death. Other punishments include being shaven with the urine of > > an ass, making young people who have sex out of wedlock lie on a > > bed of red-hot iron, and this little gem: "molten lead has to be > > poured into the ears of those 'low born' who dare to hear the > > recital of the written word" > > > > I can't imagine anyone "spontaneously" doing any of these things > > based on their level of consciousness. > And of course you're right on this. That's why they're called "Duty > Scriptures" (dharma-shastras), they prescribe the duties of certain > varnas of people. > > It never ceases to amaze me what people will believe just because it > is uttered by someone dressed as a yogi. Vaj, you STILL don't Get IT, do you!!! Jim is not mouthing the words of MMY. This is his OWN cognition from the state of Perfect Intellect and Perfect Knowledge, from the platform from perfected Brahman Consciuosness. It is no wonder that we don't understand what seem to us to be massive contradictions in the Prescriptive/Descriptive proclamation/cognition. (And most other Wisdom Dripping utterences from Shri Jim) We can ONLY get it when we rise to Jim's most HIGH state of awareness. Please! Give him the respect he deserves!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks to Rick Archer, I've now been able to see the video. > > I have several impressions that I'd like to convey, but I'll only > give one: > > Do the exact same exercise for Iran and Nuclear Weapons. > > See what course of action you come up with. You can't do the same exercise with Iran. What are your two choices along the side of the chart?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:23 AM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets > > > > "So its all good fun to howl and bark at the various vedic > descriptions/cognitions, keeping in mind that they were not meant to > be perscriptions, but instead descriptions." > > You are misapplying MMY's statement about a specific text, the Laws of > Manu to the source of the doo doo nonsense the Charaka or Shushruta > Samhitas of Ayur Veda, which as medical texts, are prescriptive. > > So are the Laws of Manu. Maharishi once gave me the project of correlating > the scientific charts on TM with the Laws of Manu. They prescribe many > gruesome punishments for various sins. If you sleep with your teacher's > wife, you have to cut off your genitals and walk to the southwest, holding > them in your hands, until you bleed to death. Other punishments include > being shaven with the urine of an ass, making young people who have sex out > of wedlock lie on a bed of red-hot iron, and this little gem: "molten lead > has to be poured into the ears of those 'low born' who dare to hear the > recital of the written word" > > I can't imagine anyone "spontaneously" doing any of these things based on > their level of consciousness. > Yeah, just the same, we better put Jim on a 24/7 watch. And of course Tom, Rory and Peter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 5, 2007, at 4:48 PM, bob_brigante wrote: > > > MMY sits on a deerskin to insulate himself from the energy drain from > > creatures living at a lower level of life. > > > Bullshit. A deerskin asana is for power, money, to magnetize > followers and for siddhis. > Whats a tiger skin for? And other skins and asanas (kuti grass an all)?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Prissy Blissy vs Hard-Corp John Wayne Spiritualism
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 5, 2007, at 10:25 PM, new.morning wrote: > > > (And the notion of some that MMY is an aghori is, well, quite > > laughable.) > > > Who on earth would make such a crazy claim? That truly IS hilarious, > if true. > Peter used to regularly. And while it was sort of with a wink (I suppose), even the as a rough simile, it is quite funny, IMO. But I also don't get Jim's post -- he who has Perfect Crystalline Radiant Intellect (he who has perfected the Arrogance Siddhi) about prescription / description in the vedas. I assume he means MMY has been selling us a crock by Prescribing ayurved, jyotish, ghandarva-ved, forest academy, rajas, SV, etc instead of letting the Totally Enlightened in the highest state of Brahman Consciousness -- like Jim, live the totality of these things naturally, in their enlightenment -- that is to live the Description of the state. I can hardly wait to meet Jim's 12 year old wife, his slaves, watch him perform the Horse sacrafice, watch his queen copulate with the horse before all, before the horse is slaughtered, drink his own urine regularly, and all. May my unenlightened, but quite smart friends here, help to decipher the totality and depth of Jim's wisdom here -- radiating for Perfect Knowledge an Perfect Intellect -- in the highest state of consciousness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Coronation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At least we now have the answer to the age old question: "Is there > anything on earth gayer than a Cher concert." At the risk of raising explosive ire, my first thought upon seeing one of those Trikke videos was "that is so gay, even *I'd* be embarrassed to be seen riding on one."
[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for the rest of the story...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 6, 2007, at 9:06 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > I finally realized what all these Rajas at the Coronation Ceremony > > table look like: > > > > They look like a bunch of Hell's Angels who were forced, at gunpoint, > > to become Born Again Christians, showered and scrubbed clean > > by 12-year-old virgins betrothed to the prophet of a compound of > > polygamists in rural Utah, and then been given a make-over by a > > contingent of Gay Hairdressers from Middle Earth. > > I think they look like new-age Klansmen. > > Sal Are you giving Angela your posts again Sal? >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks to Rick Archer, I've now been able to see the video. > > I have several impressions that I'd like to convey, but I'll only > give one: > > Do the exact same exercise for Iran and Nuclear Weapons. > > See what course of action you come up with. == Prior to the Iraq war, International Atomic Energy Agency chairman Mohammed ElBaradei warned there was "no evidence of ongoing prohibited nuclear or nuclear-related activities in Iraq." He was subsequently smeared by the administration, but ultimately vindicated as the recipient of a Nobel Peace Prize for getting it right. Today on CNN, ElBaradei sounded alarms about the Bush administration's increasingly hawkish rhetoric in regards to Iran's alleged nuclear ambitions. "We have the time" to use diplomacy, ElBaradei urged. There is "no military solution" with Iran: I very much have concern about confrontation, building confrontation, Wolf, because that would lead absolutely to a disaster. I see no military solution. The only durable solution is through negotiations and inspections. ... My fear is that we continue to escalate from both sides from both sides that we would end up into a precipice, we would end up into an abyss. ElBaradei poured water over Vice President Cheney's confident declaration last week that "Iran is pursuing technology that could be used to develop nuclear weapons. The world knows this." While ElBaradei did not rule out Iran having an "intent" to obtain nuclear weapons, he explained that there is no evidence that Iran is currently pursuing such a program right now: I have not received any information that there is a concrete, active nuclear weapon program going on right now. We have information that there have been maybe some studies about possible weaponization. But we are looking into these alleged studies with Iran right now. But have we seen having the nuclear material that can be readily used into a weapon? No. Have we seen an active weaponization program? No. So there is a concern, but there is also time to clarify these concerns. ElBaradei also urged the U.S. to halt its fiery rhetoric and directly engage Iran in talks: "The earlier we go into negotiation, the earlier we follow the North Korean model, the better for everybody." Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LXlkfezIW4 - Yesterday ... I flagged Sy Hersh's new New Yorker article on the Cheneyite push for war with Iran -- an article as depressing as it is unsurprising. I want to focus in one passage from the piece about arch-Iran hawk Norman Podhoretz ... Many of those who support the President's policy argue that Iran poses an imminent threat. In a recent essay in Commentary, Norman Podhoretz depicted President Ahmadinejad as a revolutionary, "like Hitler . . . whose objective is to overturn the going international system and to replace it . . . with a new order dominated by Iran. . . . The plain and brutal truth is that if Iran is to be prevented from developing a nuclear arsenal, there is no alternative to the actual use of military force." Podhoretz concluded, "I pray with all my heart" that President Bush "will find it possible to take the only action that can stop Iran from following through on its evil intentions both toward us and toward Israel." So this is the threat. Iran overturns the current unipolar world order and replaces it with a new world order dominated by Iran. It's really quite astonishing that people even write this garbage with a straight face. And yet there it is. Lost in all of this is that Iran is, what?, a third rate military power? Maybe? Let's see if we can line up this comparison: Hitler/Germany, head of industrial superpower in the heart of Europe, engaged in massive rearmament putting it back in place as the dominant land military power in the world. Ahmadinejad, head of country with an economy roughly the size of Alabama, a sizable but largely outmoded military. Notice any differences? --Josh Marshall Relevant links here: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/054690.php --- The American discussion about Iran has lost all connection to reality. Norman Podhoretz, the neoconservative ideologist whom Bush has consulted on this topic, has written that Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is "like Hitler a revolutionary whose objective is to overturn the going international system and to replace it in the fullness of time with a new order dominated by Iran and ruled by the religio-political culture of Islamofascism." For this staggering proposition Podhoretz provides not a scintilla of evidence. Iran has an economy the size of Finland's and an annual defense budget of around $4.8 billion. It has not invaded a country since the late 18th century. The United
[FairfieldLife] Causality and a 100% Correlation (Re: Quotes from the Dhammapada)
Angela Mailander: "There is no way to distinguish between a cause and a 100% correlation." Thanks for nutshelling that concept. To me it's THE question for science to face -- but seldom does, because, well, it cannot be faced!!! The quantum guys know that that they cannot know anything about the mechanics of the "vacuum state." Things are furiously happening inside "nothing." They have no tools to do this, and Godel and Heisenberg says no tools for such are logically possible period. Just so, the inside of black holes cannot be compassed by thought. And, just so, amness, from which springs forth fully formed thoughts, cannot be delved into since the observer-function of the mind must be merged with all other mental faculties to arrive at amness -- a mono-thought state. God's mind works everywhere at once, and robot minds call it synchrony. Same deal for us -- being made in the image of God and all -- in our nightly dreams we create all the characters, props, environments, clothing, colors, smells, emotions, plots INSTANTLY and WHOLLY. There's simply no room for causality to manage all that doingness in the time alloted -- that is: real time, now time, instant by moment time, in which an unstoppable, unrelenting, constant, magnificent changingness is managed by the beyond with unfathomable laws. The human brain is capable of tremendous parallel processing, and the tasks-being-processed, when one considers the content of even the most common human experience, simply boggles, but a mere glance by anyone at anytime in any place in any circumstance will be ample proof enough of synchrony if one truly sees what one is seeing. Say what? Try this experiment to see if you agree that sychronicity-simultaneity is operating beyond causality -- see if you can feel the immensity of the mind and that there's not time enough to construct all of this experience, moment by moment being refreshed anew: EXPERIMENT Find a viewpoint from which you can see a "good distance". The greater the distance the better, and if it involves looking out a window, that's okay. If you can see the horizon, that's ideal. Daytime is best. Pick an object that is moving and that is one of the farthest objects from you. This may be a leaf on a distant tree, a boat on the lake, a crop circle forming, whatever. Now stare at this object and note how little of your field of vision it takes up. Decide an approximate percentage. While you are watching this object with your physical eyes being focused upon it, note that other objects are also quite clearly delineated by your mind as separate "entities" which are not the object of focus but are nonetheless discernible. While still focused on the distant object, mentally note at least five other objects that are at varying distances from you. Note that these objects, especially the nearest of them are not as "in focus" as the distant object. While still focused on the distant object, note that this "trip" that you take is done without moving your eyes to focus on the other individual objects, but instead it is a MENTAL ADJUSTMENT IN YOUR ATTENTIONING -- in that your eyes stay fixed, but your mind can know that the other objects are "there" and have definite qualities of color and shape and distance that are easily observed. Note that these other objects have emotional value to you that is also separately distinguishable. Note other moving objects within this same field of view. Note how these and other objects are "alluring" to the eye which "likes" to shift its attention to moving objects and colorful objects. Note that there are at MANY objects! Estimate the number by rounding off to the nearest million. Note that each object in your field of view, must necessarily be represented within your physiology by individual processes; for instance, the moving leaf, the bird that flies by, the cloud, UFOs, etc. are ALL happening simultaneously within your mind as separate "events" albeit seamlessly integrated into a single "picture". Note that this must mean that your nervous system is able to maintain a huge number of separate "hunks", and yet effortlessly the scene "makes sense". Practice "traveling around" your field of view while remaining focused on the one distant object. After you get some "chops" doing this sort of thing, ask yourself these questions: What is a separate thought? How do I have so much going on in my mind and yet it seems like everything comes "one at a time"? Can I have more than one thought or emotion at a time? What would be the payoff if I could "skillfully use" two thoughts or emotions at once? When I am having an intense emotion, is this like a part of me focusing on an object? Can I learn to "travel around" my "emotional field of view" when I am having an "emotional attack" that predominates? What would be the payoff to becoming skilled at this? WHO decides where my attention goes? How do all these things get sorted out, and then sponta
Re: [FairfieldLife] And now for the rest of the story...
On Nov 6, 2007, at 9:06 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: I finally realized what all these Rajas at the Coronation Ceremony table look like: They look like a bunch of Hell's Angels who were forced, at gunpoint, to become Born Again Christians, showered and scrubbed clean by 12-year-old virgins betrothed to the prophet of a compound of polygamists in rural Utah, and then been given a make-over by a contingent of Gay Hairdressers from Middle Earth. I think they look like new-age Klansmen. Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Overposting - Angela's done for the week
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:35 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Overposting - Angela's done for the week 59 posts since Friday midnight. Judy has 30. No one else is very close. The limit is 25 per week. I meant 35 per week, which averages out to 5 per day. Pace yourself and favor quality over quantity. (I’m not implying that the two are mutually exclusive.) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/1112 - Release Date: 11/5/2007 7:11 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp -- show your true colors (Most Terrifying Video You'll Ever See)
Thanks to Rick Archer, I've now been able to see the video. I have several impressions that I'd like to convey, but I'll only give one: Do the exact same exercise for Iran and Nuclear Weapons. See what course of action you come up with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well Shemp, here's a problem for ya now. It no longer matters if > global warming is real. The real question is a matter of > possibilities and what a prudent mind would do faced with a "risks chart." > > I'll be really surprised if you can come up with a cogent response to > this video's logic. And, in fact, I'm expecting nothing to be posted > about this from you, or at best, you'll squeak out some snide flame > that proves only that you're incapable of logic. > > Prove me wrong. > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > HYPERLINK > > > "http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=bDsIFspVzfI"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b > > DsIFspVzfI > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/1112 - Release Date: > 11/5/2007 > > 7:11 PM > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question regarding TMO view on Pets
On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote: So are the Laws of Manu. Maharishi once gave me the project of correlating the scientific charts on TM with the Laws of Manu. They prescribe many gruesome punishments for various sins. If you sleep with your teacher’s wife, you have to cut off your genitals and walk to the southwest, holding them in your hands, until you bleed to death. Other punishments include being shaven with the urine of an ass, making young people who have sex out of wedlock lie on a bed of red-hot iron, and this little gem: "molten lead has to be poured into the ears of those 'low born' who dare to hear the recital of the written word" I can’t imagine anyone “spontaneously” doing any of these things based on their level of consciousness. And of course you're right on this. That's why they're called "Duty Scriptures" (dharma-shastras), they prescribe the duties of certain varnas of people. It never ceases to amaze me what people will believe just because it is uttered by someone dressed as a yogi.
[FairfieldLife] Overposting - Angela's done for the week
59 posts since Friday midnight. Judy has 30. No one else is very close. The limit is 25 per week. Please keep a tally of your own posts. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.22/1112 - Release Date: 11/5/2007 7:11 PM
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Real Yogi with Animals
On Nov 6, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Angela Mailander wrote: Do I know that he was in Samadhi? Well, now, there's a question. What universe of discourse shall we choose for our discussion? Next time a pet dies, put him in sitting position and see what happens. It's not so much the position itself, although the position is conducive to the transference of consciousness (Tib. "phowa"). In the case of the Karmapa, the animals would go into that position after the breathing stopped. This style of samadhi is common in those who perfected it in this lifetime, the side-benefit is once you learn it yourself, you can assist others as well. In the case of the Karmapa, just being in his vicinity was all that was necessary, which is really a kind of nondual transference. And here's another thing. My enlightened dog, who was also my guru, RuDog, showed up at a time in my life in which I died and was subsequently reborn (resurrected if you like Christian terms better). He saw me through it and gave me a diploma stating that I was indeed enlightened. True or False: Was RuDog a reincarnation of Sherru? Who was he really?
