[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Are you serious Lurk? Why don't I just say it? How about the feelings of the person involved? There are several here who know what and who I am talking about. If I told you, you would be extremely unhappy about both the events and the fact that I had outed the person against her wishes. Sono it stops here for now. You're not getting it, Joe. Folks who *don't* already know are now mentally going over all the movement women they can think of who might qualify for the fry your brains if you knew level, almost certainly including the woman in question (how many could there be at that level?). Maybe some will even figure it out. Maybe they'll ask somebody else who does know. And then tell their friends. This woman's privacy was more secure before you spoke up. Now, to many readers here, she's a known unknown; before, she was an unknown unknown. That's a significant change in status, for which you're responsible. Now she's only one step away from exposure; before, it was two.
[FairfieldLife] Google -- the curtain from The Wizard Of Oz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: You just think you can evaluate things because you have Google. You mistake information for context and it makes you feel smart when you are clueless. Excellent point. Google is like the curtain that the wizard hides behind in The Wizard Of Oz. And the person behind the curtain *likes* the curtain and *hates* Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain because the curtain hides the fact that there was never ary reason why anyone *should* have paid attention to him in the first place. The only thing he's *ever* done is sit behind a curtain and Google shit. :-) There are whole generations of people now who don't feel that there is any difference between Live and Memorex. When it comes to searching for information to bolster their rants, prejudices, and to help them win their petty tyrant battles, Google is *enough* for them to consider themselves an expert, someone who *should* be paid attention to. Such people really, really, really don't like it when someone pulls back the curtain and points out that the person being so authoritative about a subject *knows nothing about it but what they read on Google*. What these kinds of people *DO* with the information they mistake for context and real knowledge is another matter. Some use it -- as you suggest -- to make themselves look smart. A person who *in person* would be literally speechless on a subject *because they know nothing about it* can on the Internet spend a couple of minutes Googling and then come roaring back into a cyberdiscussion *pretending* to know something about it. It's like the early Hermione in the Harry Potter books, except that Hermione actually *did* know all the answers. The Google versions of Hermione, because they're not functioning in real time in a real conversation, are like Hermione with a cheat sheet, pushing the Pause button on a conversation and running for Google to find something to say. And, as you say, some do this in an attempt o make themselves look smarter or more knowledgeable than they really are. However, there is another form of intent that one sees often in the Google addicts of the Internet. *Their* intent in going to Google in the first place is not *just* to make themselves look smarter. There is a deeper intent that involves *making someone less look dumb*. THAT is what was going on in this whole discussion, Curtis. The entire *intent* of the person trotting out information from Google as if it were real knowledge was *to make you look stupid*. You know it, she knows it, and everyone else on this forum knows it. *Without* having to Google it. :-) And one of the reasons is that you have successfully pulled back the curtain on many of her pronounce- ments and pointed out what they really are -- facts gained not from real experience and real study but from a few seconds on Google, but then presented as if they *were* the result of real experience and real knowledge. Pay no attention to that fat woman behind the curtain. The more she tries to convince you that she knows more than you do, the more likely it is that she needed Google to do it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickm...@... wrote: Dear Friends, I'm forwarding the following announcement about a new Yahoogroup for those of us who live in or who want to keep in touch with happenings in Fairfield. Please feel welcome to join it at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldCafe/. Best wishes, Dick fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com is for those who live in or who want to keep in touch with happenings in Fairfield, Iowa. We're interested in your news about life transitions such as weddings, births, graduations, deaths, adoptions, name changes, etc. Community stories, eulogies, and acclamations are welcome. If you're opening a new business or closing an old one, we want to know. Got a special event planned? Got a lost dog or a rummage sale? Did you just publish your new book and want a place to share the news? Got photos or stories about your vacation or about the new grandbaby? Got a piece of news that's so uplifting you want to share it? Got something of unique or historical interest to those who practice Transcendental Meditation? No matter what your affiliations, if you're friendly and respectful of others and if what you have to post is appropriate for a family environment, you're invited to join fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com The link is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldCafe/. Nice, Dick. Let'd hope it will be moderated to avoid that TM-haters like the Vaj and the Turkeq takes over the place.
[FairfieldLife] Re: fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Nice, Dick. Let'd hope it will be moderated to avoid that TM-haters like the Vaj and the Turkeq takes over the place. With any luck it'll be a forum populated by We hate and look down on everyone who isn't us folks like yourself and Doug/Buck. That'll be appropriate. A circle-jerk of jerks, looking down on non-meditators and pretty much everyone in the world except themselves, and talking only *to* one another, since they are the only ones who matter. Meanwhile, no one else on planet earth will even know that they exist, or care.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
ok --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Are you serious Lurk? Why don't I just say it? How about the feelings of the person involved? There are several here who know what and who I am talking about. If I told you, you would be extremely unhappy about both the events and the fact that I had outed the person against her wishes. Sono it stops here for now. Read Judith Bourke's book when it comes out. Also, I highly recommend reading Nancy Cook de Herrera's book which I just did again for the first time in several years. It really captures first hand what it was like to be a part of the growth of the movement in the early 60s and what it was like to be in on the great phase transition...the good and the bad...in the mid 70s. Read. Learn. - -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: This topic really agitates you doesn't it Tex? As I've said, I understand. I was agitated when I first heard about it myself way back when. However, I didn't put up a steel door and refuse to consider information coming from several sources, Joe, I for one don't care if he had sexual relations or not. I am not unnerved by it, but ...one of whom would really fry your brain if you knew. this type of innuendo is a little weak (Out of respect for her privacy, she will remain anonymous until she chooses to say something on her own.) By the way, your guesses' below are lousy. If you've got something to say, why don't you just say it, instead of saying, if you only knew, if you only knew. Well if you know, tell us! And if you are not going to tell us, then maybe get off the high horse a little, as the silent authority on the matter. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Maybe nobody ever 'caught' him doing anything like that. Joe: Tex, it doesn't make sense to you for the simple reason that you do not want it to make sense. You don't want this to compute since you would short circuit if you allowed yourself to allow this as a possibility. So, Joe, how many minutes did you spend in his direct company alone, in his room? Zero. In fact, I've seen no evidence that you were ever in a room with the guy at all, much less being a skin-boy, door stop. My guess is that you've never been within a thousand feet of the guy, if that. So, your comment makes no sense.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The only reason Willy posts here is to be annoying. I can't even recall when he ever started a topic. He just posts non-sequitur replies to topics to just annoy folks. Trolls live under bridges, in Texas so do Illegal Aliens. Need I say any more? It's only a matter of time till Ricardo Guillermo is deported back to wherever he came from. I always figured the reason he made so many non sequiturs was because he just doesn't have a good command of English.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Event
LOL. With no disrespect to the poster: The Turkey is one of the most slaughtered living beings in America. Thanksgiving Day sounds like a beautiful title, not for a turkey though. Farmed, mated, fed, watered, plucked, chopped, dressed, stuffed, put in the oven, sliced and eaten. Served with garnishments, cranberry and stuffing. The organs of the turkey make a great addition to the flavor of gravy too. From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 27 April, 2010 11:01:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama Event [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Rick Archer included below] President Obama spoke in Ottumwa (town near FF) today. My wife and I got good seats and managed to shake his hand at the end. I said to him We love you. Don't let the turkeys get you down. He laughed and replied, There are lots of them out there. They keep on gobbling. I've attached two photos I took.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
Bhairitu: I can't even recall when he ever started a topic... Don't get me started. I've already asked you please not to feed it. I've got over 8,000 posts on Usenet, some of which are very interesting and informative, if I say so myself. While you were posting one-liners that start with RE: and begin and end on one line, I wrote a whole book! jus b reg 2 x y med, ne alt sans 3 guns, seps abs, n' i's-wide shut; nodoze, no bear down, u-jus n joy, else. - (Wallah Sutra 1.5) Usenet Archives: http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
Vaj: Trolls live under bridges, in Texas so do Illegal Aliens... Now this post has class! Not all 'trolls' live under bridges, Vaj, and not all illegal aliens are Hispanic. Why are you so prejudice against Tejanos? They are Caucasion people just like you are. You said you were opposed to the caste system, based on birth circumstances.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google -- the curtain from The Wizard Of Oz
Oh, what fun! Barry rushes to rescue Curtis, having perceived that he'd gotten himself into something of a mess. But typically, Barry hasn't read enough of the exchange to have any idea of what he's talking about, so he gets himself even more fouled up than Curtis. Barry mocks the practice of looking things up on the Web, having completely overlooked this from Curtis, *in the very same post that he's responding to*: I did the same searches you did Judy. Opsie! Barry also tries to paint me as pretending I already knew the information I gave Curtis: Such people really, really, really don't like it when someone pulls back the curtain and points out that the person being so authoritative about a subject *knows nothing about it but what they read on Google*. Except, of course, that I told Curtis *from the start* that I'd gotten the information from Web searches and was *explicit* that I had no expertise myself. There was no curtain to be pulled back in the first place. Not even Curtis would claim he had done so. Barry also misses the fact that much of the information didn't come from a search engine but rather from the Web site of the journal. And who had gone to that Web site to check up on the journal first? Curtis himself, of course, in his *initial response to Buck*, before I'd posted anything to the thread. He used the information he'd found there to denigrate the journal and therefore the paper. Trouble was--and this was what much of our discussion was about--he didn't look carefully enough, and as a result misconstrued the status of the paper, thinking it was an original research report when it wasn't. Finally: The more she tries to convince you that she knows more than you do, the more likely it is that she needed Google to do it. As noted, I repeatedly cited my sources for the information, and repeatedly insisted that Curtis could have known just as much as I did by using the same sources. I also repeatedly pointed out that this kind of information constitutes only a *low-level* vetting. Its usefulness is limited; it can't help one evaluate the quality of the research itself, which requires expertise that neither Curtis nor I have. What it *can* do is keep one from making the kinds of embarrassing mistakes Curtis made, such as suggesting that the journal was a scam operation in which authors pay to have their work published; and that Orme-Johnson published his paper there because he couldn't get it published anywhere else. The irony of it all is that if Curtis had done his due diligence, he'd have had more than enough ammunition to demonstrate that Buck was making this paper sound much more significant than it actually was. Barry, of course, is oblivious to all this. His interest isn't in the actual situation but only in trying to help poor Curtis out by Getting Judy. He never realizes, not after 16 years, that when his Get Judy attempts are so disastrously ill founded, he ends up helping Judy instead by exposing his own incompetence. Now let's see if Curtis has the integrity to tell Barry he's full of it, or whether he'll pretend Barry hit it on the nose and gratefully acknowledge Barry's assistance. I know which I'm betting on. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You just think you can evaluate things because you have Google. You mistake information for context and it makes you feel smart when you are clueless. Excellent point. Google is like the curtain that the wizard hides behind in The Wizard Of Oz. And the person behind the curtain *likes* the curtain and *hates* Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain because the curtain hides the fact that there was never ary reason why anyone *should* have paid attention to him in the first place. The only thing he's *ever* done is sit behind a curtain and Google shit. :-) There are whole generations of people now who don't feel that there is any difference between Live and Memorex. When it comes to searching for information to bolster their rants, prejudices, and to help them win their petty tyrant battles, Google is *enough* for them to consider themselves an expert, someone who *should* be paid attention to. Such people really, really, really don't like it when someone pulls back the curtain and points out that the person being so authoritative about a subject *knows nothing about it but what they read on Google*. What these kinds of people *DO* with the information they mistake for context and real knowledge is another matter. Some use it -- as you suggest -- to make themselves look smart. A person who *in person* would be literally speechless on a subject *because they know nothing about it* can on the Internet spend a couple of minutes Googling and then come roaring back into a cyberdiscussion *pretending* to know something about it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
This topic really agitates you doesn't it Tex? Maybe so, Joe, but the rumor I get most agitated by is the 'Mahesh Yogi murdered his Guru' rumor. When I first read this on Usenet, I thought it was a joke. 'Conspiracy Theories - The Cook Did It!' http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/shantanand3.htm But, apparently there are at least two informants on FFL that actually believe it, and one of them supports the 'Mahesh Had Sex' rumor, so I guess you could consider the source. As I've said, I understand. I was agitated when I first heard about it myself way back when. However, I didn't put up a steel door and refuse to consider information coming from several sources, one of whom would really fry your brain if you knew. It just doesn't make any sense. Go figure. (Out of respect for her privacy, she will remain anonymous until she chooses to say something on her own.) Well, at least you have the common decency to not reveal her name, unlike some skin-boys I know. But, that doesn't explain why you and the skin-boys are so interested in other people's private life, hanging outside his bedroom door all night. By the way, your guesses' below are lousy. My guess is that the Maharishi probably got seduced by women almost every day, from 1935 until his death, if what Turq says is true. I mean, the Mahesh was a powerhouse with women!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: ok --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: Are you serious Lurk? Why don't I just say it? How about the feelings of the person involved? There are several here who know what and who I am talking about. If I told you, you would be extremely unhappy about both the events and the fact that I had outed the person against her wishes. Sono it stops here for now. Read Judith Bourke's book when it comes out. Also, I highly recommend reading Nancy Cook de Herrera's book which I just did again for the first time in several years. It really captures first hand what it was like to be a part of the growth of the movement in the early 60s and what it was like to be in on the great phase transition...the good and the bad...in the mid 70s. Sounds like the housing and internet bubbles. Bubbles usually associated with investments. But each individuals invest their time, seeking the high promised returns of being on the ground floor of the phase change, and resulting new order. The value of the future investment (of time) is so high, some invested all there time on it. When the bubble bursts, these time investors are left strewn among the rubble -- at least for a while. And 10-20 years their college peers in careers, etc. Read. Learn. - -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote: This topic really agitates you doesn't it Tex? As I've said, I understand. I was agitated when I first heard about it myself way back when. However, I didn't put up a steel door and refuse to consider information coming from several sources, Joe, I for one don't care if he had sexual relations or not. I am not unnerved by it, but ...one of whom would really fry your brain if you knew. this type of innuendo is a little weak (Out of respect for her privacy, she will remain anonymous until she chooses to say something on her own.) By the way, your guesses' below are lousy. If you've got something to say, why don't you just say it, instead of saying, if you only knew, if you only knew. Well if you know, tell us! And if you are not going to tell us, then maybe get off the high horse a little, as the silent authority on the matter. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Maybe nobody ever 'caught' him doing anything like that. Joe: Tex, it doesn't make sense to you for the simple reason that you do not want it to make sense. You don't want this to compute since you would short circuit if you allowed yourself to allow this as a possibility. So, Joe, how many minutes did you spend in his direct company alone, in his room? Zero. In fact, I've seen no evidence that you were ever in a room with the guy at all, much less being a skin-boy, door stop. My guess is that you've never been within a thousand feet of the guy, if that. So, your comment makes no sense.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
What did he say when you asked him to be interviewed on BATGAP? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: President Obama spoke in Ottumwa (town near FF) today. My wife and I got good seats and managed to shake his hand at the end. I said to him We love you. Don't let the turkeys get you down. He laughed and replied, There are lots of them out there. They keep on gobbling. I've attached two photos I took.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:35 AM, tartbrain wrote: What did he say when you asked him to be interviewed on BATGAP? I never thought you'd ask. I'll be right over. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: President Obama spoke in Ottumwa (town near FF) today. My wife and I got good seats and managed to shake his hand at the end. I said to him We love you. Don't let the turkeys get you down. He laughed and replied, There are lots of them out there. They keep on gobbling. I've attached two photos I took.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Goldman says You want the truth? You can't handle the truth
More Sorkin. Goldman to top 5% Stanford Biz School grad on recruiting tour: You're attracted to me, but the idea of physical intimacy is uncomfortable because you only know me as Goldman -- the Greatest of all Investment Banking firms. But it's not always going to be that way, and the reason I know that is there was a moment last night when you were with ME, not just Goldman. And I know what a big step that was for you. So, Heather, I'm in no rush. Here's my plan. We're going to slow down, and when you're comfortable, that's when it's going to happen. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: No, its an anon piece from a blog. Though I wish I had thought of it. After the set up (Nicholson doing Gitmo/ Goldman) it just writes itself. Deserves some kind of prize. That's one of the neatest parodies I've ever seen. I guess Sorkin gets a lot of the credit for writing an archetypal speech that you can just plug stuff into to fit the occasion without losing any of the rhythm or the 'tude. But it's eerie how well it fits with what went down today in the Senate hearing on Goldman. Exact same mindset on the part of the Goldman execs as that of Colonel Jessep. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Brilliant. Is this yours? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: You want the truth? You can't handle the truth. Son, we live in a country with an investment gap. And that gap needs to be filled by men with money. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Middle Class Consumer? Goldman Sachs has a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Lehman and you curse derivatives. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what we know: that Lehman's death, while tragic, probably saved the financial system. And that Goldman's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves pension funds. You don't want the truth. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want us to fill that investment gap. You need us to fill that gap. We use words like credit default swaps, collateralized debt obligation, and securitization? We use these words as the backbone of a life spent investing in something. You use 'em as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to a commoner who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very credit we provide, and then questions the manner in which we provide it! We'd rather you just said thank you and paid your taxes on time. Otherwise, we suggest you get an account and start trading. Either way, we don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to!
[FairfieldLife] Dr Steven Greer responds to Stephen Hawking's 'Aliens are Dangerous'
It is unfortunate that Stephen Hawking has added his voice to a growing chorus of xenophobia and fear regarding what he terms Aliens. Secondly, as a scientist, he should know better: Any interstellar civilization would possess such technologies that the meager resources of Earth would be unneeded. If you can travel faster than the speed of light, you can manifest what is needed. Period. Moreover, IF they were hostile- since ETs are already visiting Earth (see www.DisclosureProject.org)- this would have been made crystal clear when we detonated the first atomic weapon in 1945. To date, no place on Earth has been invaded or attacked or colonized. Hawking should refrain from stirring the war-mongering fear pot that attends all things alien. And one might ask: Why would he make such statements, unless he is carrying water for the military-industrial-financial complex which profiteers off of the wars that fear breeds? Steven M. Greer MD April 26, 2010 http://www.disclosureproject.org/response-to-hawking.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:35 AM, tartbrain wrote: What did he say when you asked him to be interviewed on BATGAP? I never thought you'd ask. I'll be right over. And then he paused, and said, You know, its about time people recognized me as the first Awakened President. It's lonely at the top -- you know, the Oneness thing. And its an increasing pain in the rear to keep tiptoeing around those damned sleeping elephants in congress. Let America and the world hear me loud and clear: 'Wake-Up America! Wake-up World! The time has come for an enlightened society! Ignorance no more!' Oh and hey, when I am in Fairfield, do you think you could score me a temporary Dome Badge? And its rumored that Aaron Sorkin is working on a sequel to The American President -- called The Awakened President. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: President Obama spoke in Ottumwa (town near FF) today. My wife and I got good seats and managed to shake his hand at the end. I said to him We love you. Don't let the turkeys get you down. He laughed and replied, There are lots of them out there. They keep on gobbling. I've attached two photos I took.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tartbrain Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:26 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:35 AM, tartbrain wrote: What did he say when you asked him to be interviewed on BATGAP? I never thought you'd ask. I'll be right over. And then he paused, and said, You know, its about time people recognized me as the first Awakened President. It's lonely at the top -- you know, the Oneness thing. And its an increasing pain in the rear to keep tiptoeing around those damned sleeping elephants in congress. Let America and the world hear me loud and clear: 'Wake-Up America! Wake-up World! The time has come for an enlightened society! Ignorance no more!' Oh and hey, when I am in Fairfield, do you think you could score me a temporary Dome Badge? And its rumored that Aaron Sorkin is working on a sequel to The American President -- called The Awakened President. All kidding aside, he certainly strikes me as having a high degree of awakening. He's all there when you shake his hand and look into his eyes. He's not just going through the motions. We felt we were in the presence of a great soul. He seems so blissful and above the fray. My impression of the man is that he's naturally grounded in a deep wellspring of potential and that he'll continue to blossom and feel exhilarated (his words) by the world's most demanding job, rather than be overwhelmed by it, as so many presidents have been.
[FairfieldLife] USA: Vastu Coordinators Training Course completes first Phase II
USA: Vastu Coordinators Training Course completes first Phase II for professionals by Global Good News staff writer Global Good NewsTranslate This Article http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=127238759384994373\ #translate 27 April 2010 Two Deputy Ministers of Architecture of the Global Country of World Peace http://www.vedicpandits.org/initiative-administration.html recently taught the first Phase II programme of the Vastu Coordinators Training Course http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=127152109060977916\ for architects, builders, and developers. Phase II was held in Maharishi Vedic City http://maharishivediccity.net/ , Iowa, USA. It was a followup to Phase I, which has been completed by over 800 people around the world, who are now bringing the knowledge of Vedic Architecture, Maharishi Sthapatya Veda http://maharishi-programmes.globalgoodnews.com/vedic-architecture/ , to their own countries. Deputy Minister Dr Christian Schweitzer; Deputy Minister Dr Vojtek Skalski, a Vedic architect from Finland; and Dr Jon Lipman, AIA, director of Fortune-Creating Buildings http://www.fortunecreatingbuildings.com/ , who recently completed a tour of the Western United States http://newer.globalgoodnews.info/world-peace-a.html?art=127179648869282\ 709 , led the course. Describing the course on the Maharishi Channel http://www.maharishichannel.in/ ,* Dr Schweitzer said it was the first time he had visited the area. He showed photographs http://www.fortunecreatingbuildings.com/photos# of many of the approximately 500 Vastu http://www.fortunecreatingbuildings.com/principles-of-maharishi-vedic-a\ rchitecture buildings in Maharishi Vedic City and nearby Fairfieldthe largest collection of such buildings in the world. The Vastu Coordinators Course consisted of theory about Maharishi Sthapatya Veda and also the practice of visiting the many Vastu buildings and seeing how the rules of Vastu were actually applied to a variety of structures. Participants spoke with owners of the houses about their experiences living in the buildings; and also visited new construction sites to see the principles in action. Dr Schweitzer commented that practising the Transcendental Meditation http://www.tm.org/benefits-of-meditation and Transcendental Meditation Sidhi Programme http://www.permanentpeace.org/technology/sidhi.html , including Yogic Flying http://www.mum.edu/achievements/2008_11_08.html , with the large group of almost 2,000 Yogic Flyers now participating in the Invincible America Assembly http://istpp.org/news/2009_05_ia_assembly.html in Fairfield was a very rich and deep experience for him. He also very much enjoyed attending the Yagya http://www.maharishiyagya.org/yagya/index.html performances of the 1,000 Maharishi Vedic Pandits http://www.vedicpandits.org/ currently living in Maharishi Vedic City. These Pandits http://www.vedicpandits.org/maharishi-talks.html are participating in the Invincible America Assembly, making a special contribution to creating invincibility http://www.invincibility.org/ for America and peace for the world through their special peace-creating Vedic performances. * Dr Schweitzer spoke on the 26 April Maharishi Global Family Chat http://maharishichannel.in/archives/gfc-2010.html , which is broadcast daily via Internet webcast on the Maharishi Channel http://www.maharishichannel.in/ , Channel 3. Podcasts of the daily Global Family Chat (audio track) are also now available for automatic download, via an RSS feed http://globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=125220651513709056 . © Copyright 2010 Global Good News®
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google -- the curtain from The Wizard Of Oz
Barry's *really* upset that I quoted a post of his from a little over *three weeks ago* in which he describes his own reliance on Google to bolster his rants and prejudices. And because he's so enraged, he tops his earlier ludicrous mistakes and hypocrisy in trying to defend himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip The only points I wished to make with regard to THE CORRECTOR herself were: 1. She is in my opinion FFL's biggest offender in terms of Quick-Googling something to *fake* knowledge about a subject that she does not have, and If I were trying to fake having knowledge, I wonder why I'd have *announced*--repeatedly--that I had used the Web to find my information? giggle 2. Her *intent* in doing so is almost always the same -- an attempt to make someone she dislikes look stupid. Uh-huh, that would work if Curtis hadn't made *himself* look stupid, just as Barry does in his current attempt to Get Judy, by trying to fake knowledge he didn't have. snip You'll notice that this is all smoke and mirrors and nitpicking designed to deflect attention away from the two numbered points above. She really DOESN'T know squat about brain research, and was only trying to fake it via Googling. Too funny, after I'd not only made it explicit in my posts to Curtis that I knew squat about brain research, but had *pointed out to Barry* in my post this morning that I had made it explicit. He didn't read that post, so he's left twisting slowly, slowly in the wind with his head up his ass. Quite a sight, that... (Plus which, none of what I Googled had anything to do with brain research per se.) And she really WAS only in the discussion in the first place to try to make Curtis look bad. And of course we all know that Barry *never* tries to make anybody look bad. belly laugh snip Over and out from my side. She'll spend several more posts trying to spin all of this. Only one post needed to render Barry's incompetent attempts at spin harmless (harmless to me, at least) by the simple expedient of pointing out the facts. They will be on top of the ten other posts she's used up trying to make me look bad this week Only seven, actually. Most of which (five) were in response to Barry's (wildly unsuccessful) attempts to make *me* look bad. Jeez, he'd better keep his Over and out vow. Now that he's completely lost it--through his own doing-- it'll only get worse from here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tartbrain Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:26 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:35 AM, tartbrain wrote: What did he say when you asked him to be interviewed on BATGAP? I never thought you'd ask. I'll be right over. And then he paused, and said, You know, its about time people recognized me as the first Awakened President. It's lonely at the top -- you know, the Oneness thing. And its an increasing pain in the rear to keep tiptoeing around those damned sleeping elephants in congress. Let America and the world hear me loud and clear: 'Wake-Up America! Wake-up World! The time has come for an enlightened society! Ignorance no more!' Oh and hey, when I am in Fairfield, do you think you could score me a temporary Dome Badge? And its rumored that Aaron Sorkin is working on a sequel to The American President -- called The Awakened President. All kidding aside, he certainly strikes me as having a high degree of awakening. He's all there when you shake his hand and look into his eyes. He's not just going through the motions. We felt we were in the presence of a great soul. He seems so blissful and above the fray. My impression of the man is that he's naturally grounded in a deep wellspring of potential and that he'll continue to blossom and feel exhilarated (his words) by the world's most demanding job, rather than be overwhelmed by it, as so many presidents have been. Fine. And how did the interview with Igal Harmelin, aka Igal Moria go ? Does he claim to be enlightened or awaken now ?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event Fine. And how did the interview with Igal Harmelin, aka Igal Moria go ? Does he claim to be enlightened or awaken now ? No, he's pretty modest. Have to edit the audio to balance levels, then I'll upload and let you know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: snip And its rumored that Aaron Sorkin is working on a sequel to The American President -- called The Awakened President. LOL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr Steven Greer responds to Stephen Hawking's 'Aliens are Dangerous'
This is satire, right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: It is unfortunate that Stephen Hawking has added his voice to a growing chorus of xenophobia and fear regarding what he terms Aliens. Secondly, as a scientist, he should know better: Any interstellar civilization would possess such technologies that the meager resources of Earth would be unneeded. If you can travel faster than the speed of light, you can manifest what is needed. Period. Moreover, IF they were hostile- since ETs are already visiting Earth (see www.DisclosureProject.org)- this would have been made crystal clear when we detonated the first atomic weapon in 1945. To date, no place on Earth has been invaded or attacked or colonized. Hawking should refrain from stirring the war-mongering fear pot that attends all things alien. And one might ask: Why would he make such statements, unless he is carrying water for the military-industrial-financial complex which profiteers off of the wars that fear breeds? Steven M. Greer MD April 26, 2010 http://www.disclosureproject.org/response-to-hawking.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
Vaj wrote: On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The only reason Willy posts here is to be annoying. I can't even recall when he ever started a topic. He just posts non-sequitur replies to topics to just annoy folks. Trolls live under bridges, in Texas so do Illegal Aliens. Need I say any more? It's only a matter of time till Ricardo Guillermo is deported back to wherever he came from. I always figured the reason he made so many non sequiturs was because he just doesn't have a good command of English. I think all those prairie dogs he ate are catching up with him and their prions are eating away his brain.
[FairfieldLife] Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace
If intelligent alien life forms do exist out in the vastness of the space, they might not be the friendly cosmic neighbors the people of Earth are looking for, famed British scientist Stephen Hawking says in a new television series chronicling his work to explore the secrets of the universe. An advanced spacefaring extraterrestrial civilization could end up wandering the universe in enormous spaceships on the prowl for vital materials after consuming the natural resources of their own world, Hawking explains in an episode of the show Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking, which premiered Sunday on the Discovery Channel. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonize whatever planets they could reach, Hawking said. If so, it makes sense for them to exploit each new planet for material to build more spaceships so they could move on. Who knows what the limits would be? Continue reading: http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/0427/Stephen-Hawking-Aliens-may-not-come-in-peace
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event Fine. And how did the interview with Igal Harmelin, aka Igal Moria go ? Does he claim to be enlightened or awaken now ? No, he's pretty modest. Igal modest ? What happened, was he hit by a truck, fell out from a balcony or something ? Or is he simply using the old hinting trick ? And why did you want to interview him in the first place ? Inquering minds want's to know. Have to edit the audio to balance levels, then I'll upload and let you know.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event Fine. And how did the interview with Igal Harmelin, aka Igal Moria go ? Does he claim to be enlightened or awaken now ? No, he's pretty modest. Igal modest ? Well, relatively speaking. And why did you want to interview him in the first place ? He wanted to be interviewed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Judy: And now we've reached the point in the exchange where Curtis realizes he has no legitimate ammunition, so he starts to make shit up and try to stuff it in my mouth, his standard tactic when up against the wall. Such integrity. (Doesn't it ever occur to him that the shit is going to splatter right back in his face?) As he knows, I never suggested I had credentials or training in the field. Just the same layperson's common sense and ability to use the Internet to do some low-level vetting that Curtis has but was too lazy to use, pretending his epistemic humility was so profound there was no way he could know anything at all about the journal's credibility, and that therefore it was the height of hubris for Buck to tout the paper. I did the same searches you did Judy I just lack your confidence in my ability to put the information in useful context. I also doubt yours. I know you aren't stupid, so I have to assume you're just disingenuous. Here's what I was responding to (which you cleverly snipped): I am so impressed with your credentials in this field. You are just another person who mistakes intelligence for training. Very common in pseudo-science. See above where I said make shit up and try to stuff it in my mouth? Where exactly did I tout, or even hint at, my credentials or training in this field? Nowhere. You are trying to make a case that you can make a low level vetting decision and I am not buying it. So we are just arguing about where your lack of knowledge comes to play here. From the start, my point was that you don't *need* any credentials or training to do the kind of low-level check I did. Calling it a low level check doesn't improve your actual abilities to undestand the authority of the person posting. Except that Curtis went to a whole lot of trouble to try to *discredit* the journal and the paper, getting practically everything he said wrong. *That's* where a bit of epistemic humility would have done him some good, realizing that he needed to read what he was commenting on. E.g.: My comment apply with or without the distinction you found between a study and a paper about studies. That was the least of your errors, true. But you made it because you didn't bother to determine what it was you were complaining about, instead spending most of your time composing the lengthy complaint. I read as much as I needed to see I didn't have the background to evaluate it. Then I checked out the editors and realized I didn't have the background to evalute them. On the other hand, you might want to ask a scientist you trust about the relative significance of review articles vs. original research studies. Plus which, you attribute all the conclusions involved to O-J, but he was an author of only 9 of the several dozen papers whose conclusions he cited in his review. Big apologies to David for such a sin. [O-J] must have either been rejected at mainstream outlets already or knows it will not fly under more rigorous standards. So you think this was his first choice where to publish it? Again: It was an *invited commentary* (one among 14) specifically on a paper previously published in that journal. No other journal is going to extend a mass invitation to comment on a paper published in a *different* journal. This ain't rocket science, Curtis. The first choice question simply doesn't apply. Your most legitimate complaint. i withdraw my suspicions that he was shopping this paper around and landed here. As noted, the paper was *invited by the journal editors*; and it was a *review article*, not a report of original research. Means nothing to my comments about my lack of ability to analyse this paper in teh context of technical fields. Makes a *huge* difference with regard to your first choice issue (which was clearly intended to denigrate O-J). You are right. My suspicions for this paper were unfounded. If you can't evaluate assertions about a technical field you have no expertise in, second-best is to check out the credentials of whoever made the assertions. That's done all the time here with regard to, for example, critiques of the global warming hypothesis, and it makes sense as far as it goes: suspicions about the assertions of those without credentials are often well founded. But if you're going to raise doubts about assertions on the basis of the lack of credentials of those making them, you'd damn well better make sure you've checked them out thoroughly enough to be *sure* they lack credentials, instead of simply making up the alleged lack as you did. I'm not sure I deserve this much scolding. I was wrong about it being a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event Fine. And how did the interview with Igal Harmelin, aka Igal Moria go ? Does he claim to be enlightened or awaken now ? No, he's pretty modest. Igal modest ? Well, relatively speaking. And why did you want to interview him in the first place ? He wanted to be interviewed. ROFL !! That's a good one, funniest information of the week ! Some fellows simply never change ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
This topic really agitates you doesn't it Tex? As I've said, I understand. I was agitated when I first heard about it myself way back when. Judy: He's a flak generator, otherwise known as a troll. He particularly likes to throw up flak about movement history. He fondly envisions himself as a sort of crazy wisdom guy who forces folks to confront their assumptions by making contradictory or inane statements. He's just not very good at the wisdom part. My job is not to answer questions, but to question answers. I'll leave the 'wisdom' statements to you and Barry Wright. Don't waste your time. Good point!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
Trolls live under bridges, in Texas so do Illegal Aliens... Bhairitu: I think all those prairie dogs he ate are catching up with him and their prions are eating away his brain... You don't have to get so angry and annoyed, Barry2. Not all Tejanos live under bridges and eat prairie dogs. California has the most illegal aliens of any state in the U.S.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically
On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:23 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: See above where I said make shit up and try to stuff it in my mouth? Where exactly did I tout, or even hint at, my credentials or training in this field? Nowhere. You are trying to make a case that you can make a low level vetting decision and I am not buying it. So we are just arguing about where your lack of knowledge comes to play here. One of the interesting areas where TM researchers/commentators/ reviewers often, inevitably, shoot themselves in the foot is in their description of higher states of consciousness. David Orme- Johnson, really not all that different from other TM/SCI researchers, tries to insinuate some superiority to witnessing deep sleep, as opposed to lucid dreaming. He (and many other TM commentators/researchers) don't seem to be aware of the fact that when awareness expands, it expands to ALL spheres of waking, deep sleep and dreaming. In other words, if you've truly developed the shaksi or witness-consciousness, it doesn't just arbitrarily miss the other states. If you awaken witness-consciousness, you will also witness the construct of dreaming arise, utterly conscious of the whole unfolding dream-deep sleep-waking continuum, not just a piece of it. If these allegedly advanced TMers aren't also lucid dreaming, it doesn't sound like they've actually developed a real witness- consciousness. Also, if their sleep hasn't diminished considerably (four hours or less), something quite easy to judge in a standard sleep lab-style sleep study, it's highly unlikely they're in any higher state of consciousness at all, but merely hypervigilant from over-indoctrination and indiscriminate acceptance of TM/SCI dogmas. One thing you can count on David O-J for is a good chuckle. As usual: he delivers.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Google -- the curtain from The Wizard Of Oz
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: You just think you can evaluate things because you have Google. You mistake information for context and it makes you feel smart when you are clueless. Excellent point. Google is like the curtain that the wizard hides behind in The Wizard Of Oz. And the person behind the curtain *likes* the curtain and *hates* Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain because the curtain hides the fact that there was never ary reason why anyone *should* have paid attention to him in the first place. The only thing he's *ever* done is sit behind a curtain and Google shit. :-) There are whole generations of people now who don't feel that there is any difference between Live and Memorex. When it comes to searching for information to bolster their rants, prejudices, and to help them win their petty tyrant battles, Google is *enough* for them to consider themselves an expert, someone who *should* be paid attention to. Whatever happened to casual conversation? We seem to be in an age of exactitude where everybody so concerned that they may be wrong about something they spend time looking stuff up on Google before they post. Imagine if we were trying to have a conversation around a table in restaurant or bar this way. Everyone would be jumping on their laptop, tablet or smartphone before they said a word.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google -- the curtain from The Wizard Of Oz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: You just think you can evaluate things because you have Google. You mistake information for context and it makes you feel smart when you are clueless. Excellent point. Google is like the curtain that the wizard hides behind in The Wizard Of Oz. And the person behind the curtain *likes* the curtain and *hates* Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain because the curtain hides the fact that there was never ary reason why anyone *should* have paid attention to him in the first place. The only thing he's *ever* done is sit behind a curtain and Google shit. :-) There are whole generations of people now who don't feel that there is any difference between Live and Memorex. When it comes to searching for information to bolster their rants, prejudices, and to help them win their petty tyrant battles, Google is *enough* for them to consider themselves an expert, someone who *should* be paid attention to. Whatever happened to casual conversation? Or, even more sorely missed, conversation as an art form, in which the purpose is to entertain and be entertained. We seem to be in an age of exactitude where everybody so concerned that they may be wrong about something they spend time looking stuff up on Google before they post. I think it's more fundamental than that. A lot of people *simply don't have anything to say* unless they can look up something said by someone else to parrot. Imagine if we were trying to have a conversation around a table in restaurant or bar this way. Everyone would be jumping on their laptop, tablet or smartphone before they said a word. And some would be incapable of saying anything at all without being able to look up something to say.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
Maybe so, but you're the one who seems angry and annoyed Tex. Go figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Trolls live under bridges, in Texas so do Illegal Aliens... Bhairitu: I think all those prairie dogs he ate are catching up with him and their prions are eating away his brain... You don't have to get so angry and annoyed, Barry2. Not all Tejanos live under bridges and eat prairie dogs. California has the most illegal aliens of any state in the U.S.
[FairfieldLife] Castaneda's concept of impeccability
Although Carlos may have made up most of the stuff in his books, even the made up parts are quite fascinating and instructive. Let's briefly cover his (the supposed Nagual) notion of impeccability. There's a moral component to this only to a degree, since an evil sorcerer can take care to be impeccable within karmic limits. Foremost, one must undertake various practices to insure that one is protected from psychic attacks by other sorcerers, especially. But like the good-Spy/ bad-Spy comics, there's no absolutely foolproof protection. Such protection is evolutionary, akin to the various types of strategies undertaken by insects, birds, and other creatures to enhance their own protective devices while at the same time gaining an edge on the next meal. ... By way of examples, if somebody is assassinated - like Tat Walla Baba (in spite of a strong psychic shield); or in the case of Gandhi, well we can say that although in the first case, Tat was well aware of impeccability strategies but failed due to bad karma. Gandhi covered himself with a huge amount of good karma and had millions of followers, but for some unknown underlying karmic reasons coupled with more obvious causes, there was a chink in this psychic armor - right in the chest. ... Now getting to MMY, somewhat separate from his messing around with the female followers; it';s quite obvious that the man knew virtually nothing about the concept of impeccability and his psychic armor (if any - due to multitudes of yagyas); had so many holes it that he was like that old Jerry Lewis movie where he was inducted into the Army and had lots of shots. Spouts of water spewed out of the holes. ... As Nagual's go, MMY was a total embarrassment to the concept of impeccability. What a disgrace!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
Not all Tejanos live under bridges and eat prairie dogs. Joe: Maybe so, but you're the one who seems angry and annoyed Tex. Why would I be upset, - I'm not Tejano. Not all Texans are Hispanic. But, you're obviously prejudiced against Texans. Go figure. Mexico is now more violent than Iraq. The unrest is spilling across the borders. The old shrill argument that criminals, drug smugglers, and violence in general are spreading into the American southwest from Mexico is no longer quite so shrill... Read more: 'How Could They Do That in Arizona!' By Victor Davis Hanson Pajamas Media, April 27th, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/22vht78
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis Coming St. Paul, MN May 1!
Maybe so, but you're the one eating prarie dogs. You're just not making any sense today Tex. Go Figure. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Not all Tejanos live under bridges and eat prairie dogs. Joe: Maybe so, but you're the one who seems angry and annoyed Tex. Why would I be upset, - I'm not Tejano. Not all Texans are Hispanic. But, you're obviously prejudiced against Texans. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google -- the curtain from The Wizard Of Oz
Whatever happened to casual conversation? TurquoiseB: Or, even more sorely missed, conversation as an art form, in which the purpose is to entertain and be entertained... That's not good enough for Judy, Turq - you're supposed to be posting 'wisdom' statements - otherwise you're a 'troll', I guess. So, where, exactly, are the wisdom statements from the Junk Yard Dog? LOL! He's a flak generator, otherwise known as a troll. He particularly likes to throw up flak about movement history. He fondly envisions himself as a sort of crazy wisdom guy who forces folks to confront their assumptions by making contradictory or inane statements. He's just not very good at the wisdom part. FairfieldLife/message/246838
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically
You are trying to make a case that you can make a low level vetting decision and I am not buying it. So we are just arguing about where your lack of knowledge comes to play here. Vaj: One thing you can count on David O-J for is a good chuckle. As usual: he delivers... Maybe you could post a review of scientific studies that demonstrate 'higher states of consciousness' in which 'witnessing deep sleep' develops into 'awareness' that expands into ALL spheres of waking, deep sleep and dreaming. That would prove that the 'shaksi' or witness- consciousness, unfolds the construct of dreaming to an utter consciousness of the whole unfolding dream-deep sleep-waking continuum. There must be dozens of standard sleep lab-style sleep studies that prove this. Chuckle
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google -- the curtain from The Wizard Of Oz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: snip Whatever happened to casual conversation? Gee, there's plenty of it here. Not sure how you've managed to miss it. We seem to be in an age of exactitude where everybody so concerned that they may be wrong about something they spend time looking stuff up on Google before they post. You seem to be reading an entirely different forum than I am. Imagine if we were trying to have a conversation around a table in restaurant or bar this way. Everyone would be jumping on their laptop, tablet or smartphone before they said a word. What more often happens, here and in live conversations, is that someone will say something that someone else finds dubious, and one or the other or both will check the Web to see if it can be verified. Of course, live conversations have a very different dynamic than those on electronic forums. In a live conversation, you get a response right away, whereas on an electronic forum there's usually a delay. So Web- checking tends to interrupt the flow of live conversations, but not of electronic ones. Several participants here would *benefit* from doing their Web checking before they post, though. They tend to spout off without having their facts in hand. And there's no point in having a discussion about, say, why over half of U.S. adults are taking prescription antidepressants, or why the U.S. has spent over half its GDP since WWII on defense, or how Obama managed to beat Hillary in a landslide in the primaries, if none of these is actually the case (all three--and many more-- from just one participant here). You can't have rational conversations when you have folks like this participating unless you have a way to determine what the real facts are. Of course, sometimes it doesn't help to check the Web. In searching for information about a spit feminist blogger, one person here found a photo of her on a blog accompanying a post trashing Obama, and assumed it was her blog and her post. This person then made a post on FFL trashing the spit feminist blogger at length for being an Obama-hating spit Hillary-lover. Unfortunately, it was the blog and the post of a rather well-known male rightwinger, and his post was trashing the spit feminist blogger for having made a pro-Obama, anti-Palin post on *her* blog. Doing Google searches is pretty much useless, in other words, if you don't actually read the material you find.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: snip If these allegedly advanced TMers aren't also lucid dreaming, it doesn't sound like they've actually developed a real witness- consciousness. Vaj might want to read a paper by Gackenbach, a leading lucidity researcher (cited frequently in the O-J paper), on the experience of lucid dreaming among TMers and its relationship to witnessing: http://www.sawka.com/spiritwatch/fromlucid.htm He also might wish to review the O-J paper itself. Quote from the first paragraph: ...There exists [sic] discussions of developmental models of consciousness that include lucid dreaming, witnessing waking, witnessing dreaming and witnessing deep sleep that have previously been presented (Alexander et al., 1985; Alexander, 1988; Alexander et al., 1990; Alexander and Langer, 1990; Gackenbach, 1991; Travis, 1994; Mason, 1995; Mason et al., 1997; Travis, 2005). The authors discuss the possibility of a continuum of experiences that includes lucid dreaming, witnessing dreaming and witnessing deep sleep and their relationship to so-called higher states of consciousness So contrary to Vaj's assertions, the TM researchers do indeed include lucid dreaming in their model of consciousness; and TMers do indeed report having lucid dreams.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Apr 24 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat May 01 00:00:00 2010 281 messages as of (UTC) Wed Apr 28 23:29:14 2010 42 authfriend jst...@panix.com 34 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com 32 WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com 20 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 19 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 16 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com 14 tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com 12 Joe geezerfr...@yahoo.com 12 do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com 9 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net 8 ditzyklanmail carc...@yahoo.co.in 7 lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 7 John jr_...@yahoo.com 6 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 4 shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca 4 guyfawkes91 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 4 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com 4 Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com 4 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 3 Yifu Xero yifux...@yahoo.com 3 Hugo fintlewoodle...@mail.com 2 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com 2 merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de 2 wle...@aol.com 2 It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@gmail.com 2 Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com 1 yifuxero yifux...@yahoo.com 1 sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 scienceofabundance no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 parsleysage meowthirt...@yahoo.com 1 azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com Posters: 33 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: President Obama spoke in Ottumwa (town near FF) today. My wife and I got good seats and managed to shake his hand at the end. I said to him We love you. Don't let the turkeys get you down. He laughed and replied, There are lots of them out there. They keep on gobbling. Oh, you are so inside the inner circle, to share the inside joke with the President. I like him too, but I don't idolize him. Sounds like you idolize him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr Steven Greer responds to Stephen Hawking's 'Aliens are Dangerous'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: It is unfortunate that Stephen Hawking has added his voice to a growing chorus of xenophobia and fear regarding what he terms Aliens. Secondly, as a scientist, he should know better: Any interstellar civilization would possess such technologies that the meager resources of Earth would be unneeded. If you can travel faster than the speed of light, you can manifest what is needed. Period. Sounds like you've got it all figured out. No uncertainties for you. That's neat, to be at that level. Moreover, IF they were hostile- since ETs are already visiting Earth (see www.DisclosureProject.org)- this would have been made crystal clear when we detonated the first atomic weapon in 1945. To date, no place on Earth has been invaded or attacked or colonized. Hawking should refrain from stirring the war-mongering fear pot that attends all things alien. And one might ask: Why would he make such statements, unless he is carrying water for the military-industrial-financial complex which profiteers off of the wars that fear breeds? Steven M. Greer MD April 26, 2010 http://www.disclosureproject.org/response-to-hawking.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: All kidding aside, he certainly strikes me as having a high degree of awakening. He's all there when you shake his hand and look into his eyes. He's not just going through the motions. We felt we were in the presence of a great soul. He seems so blissful and above the fray. My impression of the man is that he's naturally grounded in a deep wellspring of potential and that he'll continue to blossom and feel exhilarated (his words) by the world's most demanding job, rather than be overwhelmed by it, as so many presidents have been. Rory, Rory, get over here. Someone is honing in on your territory. I know he is your friend. But this is and was your franchise. Protect it. Calling all Rories!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
Oh, Crikey. I take it back. Igal Harmon. Yea, he is going to shout it. Love him like a brother. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:05 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event Fine. And how did the interview with Igal Harmelin, aka Igal Moria go ? Does he claim to be enlightened or awaken now ? No, he's pretty modest. Igal modest ? Well, relatively speaking. And why did you want to interview him in the first place ? He wanted to be interviewed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google -- the curtain from The Wizard Of Oz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Whatever happened to casual conversation? We seem to be in an age of exactitude where everybody so concerned that they may be wrong about something they spend time looking stuff up on Google before they post. Imagine if we were trying to have a conversation around a table in restaurant or bar this way. Everyone would be jumping on their laptop, tablet or smartphone before they said a word. I'm not sure Judy does casual convesations. And you can always count of Turq to do something to incite some challenge if he feels you are making an iota of judgement. So, I think it's pretty difficult to weave through these little minefields.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:28 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Event Fine. And how did the interview with Igal Harmelin, aka Igal Moria go ? Does he claim to be enlightened or awaken now ? No, he's pretty modest. No, I'm sure he just shouted shouted about his enlightenment. That's the deal with these interviews. The little that I watched, it is pretty low key. Ex: Yes, I feel more balanced. Yes, the ups and downs don't disturb me as much. Yes, I feel more inner freedom I'm gonna guess that they play out along these lines. Butmaybe I'm mistaken Have to edit the audio to balance levels, then I'll upload and let you know.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Google -- the curtain from The Wizard Of Oz
Whatever happened to casual conversation? Judt: Gee, there's plenty of it here. Not sure how you've managed to miss it. Oh Yeah!!! He's a flak generator, otherwise known as a troll. He particularly likes to throw up flak about movement history. He fondly envisions himself as a sort of crazy wisdom guy who forces folks to confront their assumptions by making contradictory or inane statements. He's just not very good at the wisdom part. FairfieldLife/message/246838
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Movie for Bhairitu- Kick-Ass
Good call. I saw it this afternoon. Enjoyed it very much and I think Turq would too. Was it what you expected? Over the week I had read and heard mixed reviews. I think some critics thought it was going to be a movie for kids because of Lionsgate's lousy marketing which made it seem so. It's not though in spite of that in front of me at the ticket counter was a mom and a bunch of young teen agers who had probably talked her into taking them to it. I was wondering what she was thinking as the movie played (it's R rated mainly for language and violence). This is the kind of role Nicholas Cage does best: a complete goof ball though he did a great job in The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call -- New Orleans. But the star of the film was definitely Chloe Moretz in a great performance the Cage character's daughter. The extra bonus was to hear more of John Murphy's Adagio in D Minor which was first used in Sunshine. Now you can hear the whole piece on his website. Due to some legal problems the score for Sunshine was never released on CD and the only versions of the piece most people could hear was the excerpt from the movie with voice over it. The work is almost like Mozart transported to the 21st century and one of the most spiritual pieces ever written: http://www.johnmurphyofficial.com/tunesbox_1.html I think this movie will do better on DVD and Bluray and will probably be a bit cult hit. I may get the Bluray. Mike Dixon wrote: Hey Bhairitu, I've got a movie for you to see that I think you'll like. I just saw *Kick-Ass*. It's nothing like I thought it would be, thank god! It's kind of like a cheaper version of Superman/Batman/Super Heroes with scenes that look like Quinton Terrintino did them. The dialog is hip and funny as hell but it does get gruesome at times. I don't know...you might like the 4:20 showing! Hope you see it and enjoy!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Canti-truncated 600-cell built with zoometools
That is really cool! I like the K-nex roller coasters too! From: Yifu Xero yifux...@yahoo.com To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 28 April, 2010 10:10:42 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Canti-truncated 600-cell built with zoometools http://www-math. mit.edu/~ drew/ZomePhoto. html
[FairfieldLife] YS III 36: translation, that respects Vyaasa's comment!
YS III 36 To the outward turned mind the sensory organs [Vyaasa: praatibhaadayaH -- card] are perfections, but are obstacles to realization. http://sanskritdocuments.org/all_pdf/yogasuutra_meaning.pdf
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirituality Indicated Scientifically
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip [Curtis wrote:] I am so impressed with your credentials in this field. You are just another person who mistakes intelligence for training. Very common in pseudo-science. See above where I said make shit up and try to stuff it in my mouth? Where exactly did I tout, or even hint at, my credentials or training in this field? Nowhere. So what makes you think it's OK to pretend otherwise? You are trying to make a case that you can make a low level vetting decision and I am not buying it. Yes, I know. You're using your epistemic humility to relieve you of the necessity to do any due diligence, because that way you can continue to hint darkly that it's all a big scam. So we are just arguing about where your lack of knowledge comes to play here. I have no idea what this means. From the start, my point was that you don't *need* any credentials or training to do the kind of low-level check I did. Calling it a low level check doesn't improve your actual abilities to undestand the authority of the person posting. Non sequitur; and you're continuing to try to put words in my mouth. I never said it did. Except that Curtis went to a whole lot of trouble to try to *discredit* the journal and the paper, getting practically everything he said wrong. *That's* where a bit of epistemic humility would have done him some good, realizing that he needed to read what he was commenting on. E.g.: My comment apply with or without the distinction you found between a study and a paper about studies. That was the least of your errors, true. But you made it because you didn't bother to determine what it was you were complaining about, instead spending most of your time composing the lengthy complaint. I read as much as I needed to see I didn't have the background to evaluate it. And if you'd left it at that, as I keep pointing out, you'd have been fine. But your error about study vs. review article got woven into your complaint. Then I checked out the editors and realized I didn't have the background to evalute them. And this is just pure bullshit. You needed no background to determine that they both worked at respected institutions, one of which was sponsoring the journal, and that one of the editors held a very responsible position at his institution and also had published widely in his field. Just on the most basic level, that means they have more credibility than someone who *doesn't* work at a respected institution, who *doesn't* hold a responsible position at that institution and *hasn't* published widely in his field, and whose journal is funded out of his own pocket. If the editors worked at the German equivalent of Podunk Community College and hadn't ever published anything, they might still be brilliant editors, but it would be highly unlikely. By the same token, the editors of this journal might be complete flakes, but that would *also* be highly unlikely. The *likelihood* is that they're both reasonably respectable, reasonably well-qualified researchers and editors. To claim you have no basis for making that kind of evaluation is silly and irresponsible and intellectually dishonest. This is what laypersons *do* when they want to have some idea of a person's credibility. They don't just throw up their hands and declare themselves incompetent, and then turn around and insinuate that *because* they can't determine for certain what the story is, *therefore* it's most likely scurrilous. snip Again: It was an *invited commentary* (one among 14) specifically on a paper previously published in that journal. No other journal is going to extend a mass invitation to comment on a paper published in a *different* journal. This ain't rocket science, Curtis. The first choice question simply doesn't apply. Your most legitimate complaint. i withdraw my suspicions that he was shopping this paper around and landed here. Thank you, finally. Why did it take you so long? I mentioned this in my first post in this exchange and every one thereafter. How many rounds have we gone now? snip Neither of us is trained in this field. I have no idea what the brain waves the studies found mean. Perfectly reasonable objection. If you'd stuck to that, it wouldn't be a problem. Oh I give you more credit for finding something... Have I objected to any of your other lectures to Buck on similar topics? Curtis also assumed, without having bothered to check it out, that because the journal publishes only online rather than on paper, therefore it couldn't be legitimate. Not true. I pointed out that it had been around for 3 years. Since I put up Websites and do not know the guys who put it up I have no way to disctinguish this site
