Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
LOL! Reminds me of a guy I worked with at UPS. One morning he put out a cigarette on the floor and a supervisor looked , totally disgusted at him, and said "why did you do that? You wouldn't put a cigarette out on your living room floor." Toby snapped back and said "and I wouldn't park 200 oil leaking trucks in my living room either". From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, May 22, 2010 9:30:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Ahem. I'd say you were somewhat out of touch. > > Check out this video of the factory in which > > they build the world's fastest supercar: > > > > http://www.vidly.net/video-Inside-the-mclaren-factory.html > > Certainly a car for the masses. I see them parked all the > time at Walmart and in the employee spots at Burger King. > I hear Judy loves hers. Nope, sorry, don't own a car. Wouldn't have one in the house. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Ahem. I'd say you were somewhat out of touch. > > Check out this video of the factory in which > > they build the world's fastest supercar: > > > > http://www.vidly.net/video-Inside-the-mclaren-factory.html > > Certainly a car for the masses. I see them parked all the > time at Walmart and in the employee spots at Burger King. > I hear Judy loves hers. Nope, sorry, don't own a car. Wouldn't have one in the house. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> authfriend wrote: >> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> >>> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? >>> You got something against getting dirty? >>> >> Every work on a car? Or how about crawling under a wheat >> truck in the dusty farm country to lube the truck? Grease >> and oil aren't much fun to work with. Electric cars are >> much cleaner. >> > > Ahem. I'd say you were somewhat out of touch. > Check out this video of the factory in which > they build the world's fastest supercar: > > http://www.vidly.net/video-Inside-the-mclaren-factory.html Certainly a car for the masses. I see them parked all the time at Walmart and in the employee spots at Burger King. I hear Judy loves hers. We elitists and classists wouldn't be caught dead in one though. They won't even let us on to the country club parking lot driving one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > authfriend wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > > Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? > > > > > > > You got something against getting dirty? > > Every work on a car? Or how about crawling under a wheat > truck in the dusty farm country to lube the truck? Grease > and oil aren't much fun to work with. Electric cars are > much cleaner. Ahem. I'd say you were somewhat out of touch. Check out this video of the factory in which they build the world's fastest supercar: http://www.vidly.net/video-Inside-the-mclaren-factory.html > > Jeez, talk about elitism! > > > > They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled. > > I don't care how much it pays it is still a dirty job. Not necessarily. See above. How clean is your *desk* as you work? Or your hard disk when you've finished? My experience is that the "cleanliness of the mind" creates the "cleanliness of the workspace," not vice- versa. The cleanest, most pristine, and by far the most uplifting workspace I've ever been in was in West L.A., at a nursery. The owners grew bonsai, in the way that their ancestors for six or seven generations had grown bonsai. They had trees there that were several hundred years old and cost mid-five-figures. One could not find a speck of dirt other than in the pots in their environment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
I apologize for taking advantage of the situation:-) From: Mike Dixon To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 8:18:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot You might want to consider that many of these oil rig workers don't have college degrees and others may have degrees in a totally different field that doesn't pay as much and their jobs are a step up for them. It's good pay for an honest days work. It pays their bills,buys them homes, and helps their families to better themselves. They are the salt of the earth. I can't help having respect for anyone that has a job and does it well, blue or white collar. From: Bhairitu To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 6:08:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot You sure have a fucked up value system, Mike. Ask them if they had an opportunity to make that kind of money on a different job and NOT get dirty or deal with dirty oil stuff would they take it? Bet they would in a minute. Mike Dixon wrote: > Bhairitu, am I getting this right, that you base what a good job is by how > clean your work area is and how clean you are at the end of the work day? > Those platform workers make a very nice living, probably approaching six > figures, which they pay all kinds of taxes on. They keep money flowing into > the Treasury(state and federal) and oil and gas for our cars, homes and > businesses. Yes, they get hot and dirty, the Gulf of Mexico is very hot and > humid, especially this time of year, and they spend days and weeks away from > their families doing what they do. I would call being an oil rig worker an > honorable job worthy of respect, which I'm sure millions of people would love > to have right now. > > > > _ _ __ > From: Bhairitu > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com > Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:33:23 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot > > > > > Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? > > White Willy speaks with forked tongue. > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
You might want to consider that many of these oil rig workers don't have college degrees and others may have degrees in a totally different field that doesn't pay as much and their jobs are a step up for them. It's good pay for an honest days work. It pays their bills,buys them homes, and helps their families to better themselves. They are the salt of the earth. I can't help having respect for anyone that has a job and does it well, blue or white collar. From: Bhairitu To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 6:08:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot You sure have a fucked up value system, Mike. Ask them if they had an opportunity to make that kind of money on a different job and NOT get dirty or deal with dirty oil stuff would they take it? Bet they would in a minute. Mike Dixon wrote: > Bhairitu, am I getting this right, that you base what a good job is by how > clean your work area is and how clean you are at the end of the work day? > Those platform workers make a very nice living, probably approaching six > figures, which they pay all kinds of taxes on. They keep money flowing into > the Treasury(state and federal) and oil and gas for our cars, homes and > businesses. Yes, they get hot and dirty, the Gulf of Mexico is very hot and > humid, especially this time of year, and they spend days and weeks away from > their families doing what they do. I would call being an oil rig worker an > honorable job worthy of respect, which I'm sure millions of people would love > to have right now. > > > > > From: Bhairitu > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:33:23 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot > > > > > Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? > > White Willy speaks with forked tongue. > > > > > > >
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > authfriend wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > >> authfriend wrote: > >> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >>> > >>> > Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? > > >>> You got something against getting dirty? > >>> > >> Every work on a car? Or how about crawling under a wheat > >> truck in the dusty farm country to lube the truck? Grease > >> and oil aren't much fun to work with. > > > > Not much excitement in working on a car or lubing > > a truck. > > > >> Electric cars are much cleaner. > > > >>> Jeez, talk about elitism! > >>> > >>> They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled. > >>> > >> I don't care how much it pays it is still a dirty job. > > > > And therefore it isn't a "high quality" job? > > > > Bhairitu, you need to pipe down before you get further > > behind. You've just nailed yourself as a classist and > > an elitist. > > I would highly doubt that anyone doing this kind of work > would disagree that it is dirty work. Disingenuous. Nobody said they weren't. But you implied, scornfully, that because they were dirty, they weren't high quality. Think you might want to take that back, now that it shows you to be a classist and an elitist? Or do you prefer to make yourself look even worse by continuing to try to pretend you never said it? And you claimed *Willytex* had a forked tongue. Hypocrite.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
You sure have a fucked up value system, Mike. Ask them if they had an opportunity to make that kind of money on a different job and NOT get dirty or deal with dirty oil stuff would they take it? Bet they would in a minute. Mike Dixon wrote: > Bhairitu, am I getting this right, that you base what a good job is by how > clean your work area is and how clean you are at the end of the work day? > Those platform workers make a very nice living, probably approaching six > figures, which they pay all kinds of taxes on. They keep money flowing into > the Treasury(state and federal) and oil and gas for our cars, homes and > businesses. Yes, they get hot and dirty, the Gulf of Mexico is very hot and > humid, especially this time of year, and they spend days and weeks away from > their families doing what they do. I would call being an oil rig worker an > honorable job worthy of respect, which I'm sure millions of people would love > to have right now. > > > > > From: Bhairitu > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:33:23 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot > > > > > Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? > > White Willy speaks with forked tongue. > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
authfriend wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> authfriend wrote: >> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> >>> >>> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? >>> You got something against getting dirty? >>> >> Every work on a car? Or how about crawling under a wheat >> truck in the dusty farm country to lube the truck? Grease >> and oil aren't much fun to work with. >> > > Not much excitement in working on a car or lubing > a truck. > > >> Electric cars are much cleaner. >> > > >>> Jeez, talk about elitism! >>> >>> They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled. >>> >> I don't care how much it pays it is still a dirty job. >> > > And therefore it isn't a "high quality" job? > > Bhairitu, you need to pipe down before you get further > behind. You've just nailed yourself as a classist and > an elitist. I would highly doubt that anyone doing this kind of work would disagree that it is dirty work. Saying so has nothing to do with elitism but why should I care if I'm called either a classist or elitist -- line on water. :-D
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > authfriend wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? > > > > You got something against getting dirty? > > Every work on a car? Or how about crawling under a wheat > truck in the dusty farm country to lube the truck? Grease > and oil aren't much fun to work with. Not much excitement in working on a car or lubing a truck. > Electric cars are much cleaner. > > Jeez, talk about elitism! > > > > They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled. > > I don't care how much it pays it is still a dirty job. And therefore it isn't a "high quality" job? Bhairitu, you need to pipe down before you get further behind. You've just nailed yourself as a classist and an elitist.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
authfriend wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > >> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? >> > > You got something against getting dirty? > Every work on a car? Or how about crawling under a wheat truck in the dusty farm country to lube the truck? Grease and oil aren't much fun to work with. Electric cars are much cleaner. > Jeez, talk about elitism! > > They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled. I don't care how much it pays it is still a dirty job.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > Ooops! Didn't mean to duplicate your post Judy. I was typing > mine while yours popped up. No prob. You said it more eloquently than I did. >From what I gather from reading TheOilDrum.com, working on an oil rig is a very macho gig, dirty and difficult and dangerous, and the workers are like a special fraternity that takes great pride in what they do. Now if we could only find them dirty, dangerous, difficult, well-paid jobs that would satisfy their macho pride doing something that wasn't so destructive to the environment and didn't feed our oil addiction...
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Ooops! Didn't mean to duplicate your post Judy. I was typing mine while yours popped up. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 3:32:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? You got something against getting dirty? Jeez, talk about elitism! They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
Bhairitu, am I getting this right, that you base what a good job is by how clean your work area is and how clean you are at the end of the work day? Those platform workers make a very nice living, probably approaching six figures, which they pay all kinds of taxes on. They keep money flowing into the Treasury(state and federal) and oil and gas for our cars, homes and businesses. Yes, they get hot and dirty, the Gulf of Mexico is very hot and humid, especially this time of year, and they spend days and weeks away from their families doing what they do. I would call being an oil rig worker an honorable job worthy of respect, which I'm sure millions of people would love to have right now. From: Bhairitu To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:33:23 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? White Willy speaks with forked tongue.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? You got something against getting dirty? Jeez, talk about elitism! They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled.
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WillyTex wrote: > >>> Taxpayers won't pay a dime for the cleanup... >>> >>> > Bhairitu: > >> Then they definitely are too big to exist... >> >> > You are sounding more un-American every day. > > None of your crack-pot ideas has a chance to > succeed. The idea is to create more jobs, not > less. If you don't like off-shore drilling, > you should sell your car and quite whining. > What about more small businesses than big? Have you ever watched what happens when a big business acquires a small one? They lay off people in areas that will be duplicated. When you break up companies these jobs come back. Your thinking is flawed and you make no sense. I'd be happy to have an electric car to use most of the time and leave the Forester for long trips. But they still charge a premium for those electrics. I might instead just replace the Forester with an even more fuel efficient smaller car since I don't really need the Forester anymore for hauling things. > British Petroleum will pay for the clean-up, > but that's not enough for you liberals I guess. > Let's trash another public business that > provides high-quality jobs for people. > We'll see if they pay for it all. My bet is they're weasel out of it someway and the taxpayers will not even bleat. Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs? White Willy speaks with forked tongue.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > Rand Paul needs to understand that American taxpayers > > (particularly right wingers) don't want to pay a dime > > for BP's cleanup. > > Taxpayers won't pay a dime for the cleanup. BP gets to > pay 100 percent; that isn't in question. > > That should > > all be on their bill even if it wipes out the company. > > It won't even come close to wiping them out. > Depends how you define "clean up". To restore the environment to it's condition prior to the accident ought to be the legal obligation. But that's such an inconceivably big task there will have to be compromises. And there's where the might of a big corporation will always win in the court. Rand is coming off a little naive in this flush of publicity. And his avoiding to give direct answers is killing him. His father is much more open, and not afraid to state his opinion even if it's unpopular. On the environment Ron always promotes the control should be in the courts not in Govt regulation. It's controversial for sure. And I can't say I know which view is right - much as I hate govt regulation, I hate the control corporations have in the court room even more. Overall though its the monetary system which is the most important issue. If that fails nothing else matters. Ron Paul has been the best watchdog in Washington to alert us to the dangers of an unregulated, unaudited Federal Reserve. So I can overlook other areas I think he's a bit iffy on. The monetary system is the number one issue in my mind.
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> > Taxpayers won't pay a dime for the cleanup... > > Bhairitu: > Then they definitely are too big to exist... > You are sounding more un-American every day. None of your crack-pot ideas has a chance to succeed. The idea is to create more jobs, not less. If you don't like off-shore drilling, you should sell your car and quite whining. British Petroleum will pay for the clean-up, but that's not enough for you liberals I guess. Let's trash another public business that provides high-quality jobs for people. That doesn't even make any sense. WASHINGTON Taking another unconventional stand, Kentucky's Republican Senate nominee Rand Paul criticized President Barack Obama's handling of the Gulf oil spill Friday as anti-business and sounding "really un-American..." Read more: 'Obama's criticism of BP sounds 'un-American' By Michele Salcedo Associated Press, May 28, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/2epg7au
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
authfriend wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > >> Rand Paul needs to understand that American taxpayers >> (particularly right wingers) don't want to pay a dime >> for BP's cleanup. >> > > Taxpayers won't pay a dime for the cleanup. BP gets to > pay 100 percent; that isn't in question. > > That should > >> all be on their bill even if it wipes out the company. >> > > It won't even come close to wiping them out. Then they definitely are too big to exist.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > Rand Paul needs to understand that American taxpayers > (particularly right wingers) don't want to pay a dime > for BP's cleanup. Taxpayers won't pay a dime for the cleanup. BP gets to pay 100 percent; that isn't in question. That should > all be on their bill even if it wipes out the company. It won't even come close to wiping them out.
