RE: [Finale] test
Martin, You are my 19th from this list. Did you pay your dues? Jim Mays -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Banner Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 7:49 PM To: Finale Subject: [Finale] test havent received any e-mails today, very unusual Martin Banner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] test
havent received any e-mails today, very unusual Martin Banner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] cross-staff tremolo FinMac 2k4c
That's some serious kludging you're doing there!... Unless anybody here can give some insider knowledge on how to get TG Tools to work for this, I think you really need to cut your losses and create the tremolos manually. As for articulations on cross-staff notes, I've had that same problem before now. I ended up working-around by creating 'new' articulations which are copies of the originals, set up to either always be above or always below the stave, etc. Composer and Erstwhile Holidaymaker wrote: Hello Listers, (I originally posted this from a non-member address so apologies if it appears more than once.) I am having problems with the appearance of a cross-staff tremolo for piano. An example is at the following URL: http://www.stephen.cronin.name/example/tremolo.tif I created the tremolo on the lower staff (Piano I), used TGTools to create the appearance of the tremolo and then moved the second chord to the upper staff. The problem is that I want to move the tremolo lines between the staves but couldn't select them. Subsequently I fiddled with the tremolo a bit more and discovered that the tremolo lines can be shifted and reshaped on cross-staff whole notes using the Beam Tool in the Special Tools...not terribly intuitive since whole notes don't have beams. However, I have a related problem with quarter- and eighth-note cross-staff tremolandi as illustrated by the examples below: http://www.stephen.cronin.name/example/b260.tif http://www.stephen.cronin.name/example/b265.tif In bar 260 the extra bit of stem on the third beat seems unmovable, at least the Stem Length Tool doesn't recognise it. In bar 265 the loose piece of stem on the first beat is similarly unresponsive. Any suggestions? Further to these problems, when I assign articulations to the cross staff notes/chords, some of the time the articulations refuse to stay on the note-side and bounce back to the beam when I update the score. Again, any suggestions to sort this out would be most appreciated. Thanks, Stephen ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: summer (was OSX display problem)
Allen Fisher wrote: At least they didn't break your heart in Game 7 of the world series...repeatedly. --Bitter Cleveland Fan... You sure that shouldn't be signed --Bitter Red Sox Fan ? --Bitter Red Sox Fan -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] cross-staff tremolo FinMac 2k4c
Hello Listers, (I originally posted this from a non-member address so apologies if it appears more than once.) I am having problems with the appearance of a cross-staff tremolo for piano. An example is at the following URL: http://www.stephen.cronin.name/example/tremolo.tif I created the tremolo on the lower staff (Piano I), used TGTools to create the appearance of the tremolo and then moved the second chord to the upper staff. The problem is that I want to move the tremolo lines between the staves but couldn't select them. Subsequently I fiddled with the tremolo a bit more and discovered that the tremolo lines can be shifted and reshaped on cross-staff whole notes using the Beam Tool in the Special Tools...not terribly intuitive since whole notes don't have beams. However, I have a related problem with quarter- and eighth-note cross-staff tremolandi as illustrated by the examples below: http://www.stephen.cronin.name/example/b260.tif http://www.stephen.cronin.name/example/b265.tif In bar 260 the extra bit of stem on the third beat seems unmovable, at least the Stem Length Tool doesn't recognise it. In bar 265 the loose piece of stem on the first beat is similarly unresponsive. Any suggestions? Further to these problems, when I assign articulations to the cross staff notes/chords, some of the time the articulations refuse to stay on the note-side and bounce back to the beam when I update the score. Again, any suggestions to sort this out would be most appreciated. Thanks, Stephen -- ars est longa, vita brevis Stephen Cronin's home page: http://www.stephen.cronin.name ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?
On 13 Sep 2004 at 12:36, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: > I previously used HP scanners, printers and even (in the now-seemingly > distant past) an HP Pavilion. . . HP's consumer line of PCs was always a pile of crap. Indeed, I never thought their business lines were any good, either. I used to see lots of HP PCs when I still worked for Corporate Solutions, and the HP PCs were quite unreliable, even though they were quite expensive. > . . . I was running that old equipment at > various times in Windows 98 and/or 2K and found that when I wished to > move to any sort of non-HP equipment, or even to exchange data from > one networked HP computer within my home to another non-HP machine > running the same op system -- there were instances in which I was not > allowed to do so and even began to get regular and increasing errors, > crashes, etc. Upon doing a little research, I discovered references > to an apparently common problem predicated upon HP's (my blunt term) > 'encouragement' that you continue using their products. Deliberate or > accidental? I can't say. I don't know what you're talking about. In any event, you seem to be describing problems with HP's PCs, not with their scanners or printers. I was responding only to the issue of scanners, which I've seen work perfectly well in any number of environments, easily being moved from one PC to another (as long as HP provided drivers for the relevant OS). With printers, HP has an even better track record (though I'll tend to use the Windows- provided drivers for any printer that's old enough to have them). > My own experience, nothing more. . . . Well, you seem to be letting bad experiences with HP PCs pollute your statements about scanners. I am in the business of taking care of people's PCs, and I see *lots* of PCs and scanners and printers. HP's scanners and printers are the best. > . . . But I have been told of similar > experiences by friends and other associates. . . . Compaq was far worse than HP before HP absorbed them. Their PCs were extremely proprietary and non-expandable in any number of ways. Maybe some of this was taken into the HP-branded PC lines once Compaq was absorbed by them. But I've seen no evidence of this Compaq proprietariness in HP's scanners or printers. > . . . My Epson 1260 has been > remarkably idiot-proof, which is always a big plus in my case. But > we're into two issues: ease of scanner use and my experience of > incompatibility when interfacing HP with other products. And like > all else in the e-world, I'm fully prepared to allow for veracity only > in the case of my own experience and to accept any other dreadful HP > horror stories as apocrypha... I see nothing in what you report that fingers anything other than HP PCs. That has zilch to do with the quality and interoperability of HP's scanners and printers. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?
On 13 Sep 2004 at 12:42, Mark D Lew wrote: > On Sep 13, 2004, at 11:51 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > I have to disagree. I have lots of clients with scanners, and the HP > > scanners have been troublefree, > > Does this include HP's all-in-one fax/scanner/printer units? Everyone > I've known who has had one of those has complained about it. I don't know of any brand of those that are not incredibly problematic. I steer clients away from those kinds of units, no matter what the brand. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: summer (was OSX display problem)
At least they didn't break your heart in Game 7 of the world series...repeatedly. --Bitter Cleveland Fan... On 9/13/04 2:40 PM, "Mark D Lew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And with the A's, the end of baseball season is very predictable: > first round of the playoffs, no more, no less. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?
On Sep 13, 2004, at 11:51 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: I have to disagree. I have lots of clients with scanners, and the HP scanners have been troublefree, Does this include HP's all-in-one fax/scanner/printer units? Everyone I've known who has had one of those has complained about it. mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: summer (was OSX display problem)
On Sep 13, 2004, at 6:48 AM, Allen Fisher wrote: We only have two seasons here in Minnesota: 1. Winter 2. Road Construction When I lived in Oakland, the year was nicely divided into three unequal seasons: (1) tax season, (2) baseball season, and (3) Christmas season -- the first being the one time of the year I had something resembling a regular day job, and the last being the one time of the year I could actually make good money as a freelance singer. And with the A's, the end of baseball season is very predictable: first round of the playoffs, no more, no less. mdl ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?
I previously used HP scanners, printers and even (in the now-seemingly distant past) an HP Pavilion. I was running that old equipment at various times in Windows 98 and/or 2K and found that when I wished to move to any sort of non-HP equipment, or even to exchange data from one networked HP computer within my home to another non-HP machine running the same op system -- there were instances in which I was not allowed to do so and even began to get regular and increasing errors, crashes, etc. Upon doing a little research, I discovered references to an apparently common problem predicated upon HP's (my blunt term) 'encouragement' that you continue using their products. Deliberate or accidental? I can't say. My own experience, nothing more. But I have been told of similar experiences by friends and other associates. My Epson 1260 has been remarkably idiot-proof, which is always a big plus in my case. But we're into two issues: ease of scanner use and my experience of incompatibility when interfacing HP with other products. And like all else in the e-world, I'm fully prepared to allow for veracity only in the case of my own experience and to accept any other dreadful HP horror stories as apocrypha... Best, Les Les MarsdenFounding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.htmlhttp://www.sierratel.com/mcf/nprc/mso.htm - Original Message - From: David W. Fenton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations? On 13 Sep 2004 at 8:43, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote:> I fully concur with Allen and go a little further: I've found that HP> has SO much proprietary intrusiveness to all their hardware, using> their products -- or worse, getting rid of their componentry -- became> a nightmare. I have to disagree. I have lots of clients with scanners, and the HP scanners have been troublefree, while all other brands of scanners have had frequent problems. And the quality produced by the HP scanners has been uniformly better than the others. Also, the scanning software for the HPs is simpler to use (even if I sometimes find it frustrating myself for more complex tasks).The only client who has ever had a problem with an HP scanner was one with an older model that was installed on their new WinXP PC. Eventually, we determined that WinXP was the cause of a whole host of problems and "downgraded" the PC to Win2K. The scanner no longer causes problems, so I won't blame the problems on HP.-- David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfentonDavid Fenton Associates http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc___Finale mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?
On 13 Sep 2004 at 8:43, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: > I fully concur with Allen and go a little further: I've found that HP > has SO much proprietary intrusiveness to all their hardware, using > their products -- or worse, getting rid of their componentry -- became > a nightmare. I have to disagree. I have lots of clients with scanners, and the HP scanners have been troublefree, while all other brands of scanners have had frequent problems. And the quality produced by the HP scanners has been uniformly better than the others. Also, the scanning software for the HPs is simpler to use (even if I sometimes find it frustrating myself for more complex tasks). The only client who has ever had a problem with an HP scanner was one with an older model that was installed on their new WinXP PC. Eventually, we determined that WinXP was the cause of a whole host of problems and "downgraded" the PC to Win2K. The scanner no longer causes problems, so I won't blame the problems on HP. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: summer (was OSX display problem)
> On Sep 12, 2004, at 10:10 AM, Javier Ruiz wrote: P.S. Is not everybody tired of this summer like me? I can´t wait for the first rains... Summer? What's that? We only have two seasons here in Minnesota: 1. Winter 2. Road Construction Ah, you poor suckers. Since retirement for me it's summer all year! Hal -- Harold Owen 2830 Emerald St., Eugene, OR 97403 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at: http://uoregon.edu/~hjowen FAX: (509) 461-3608 ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: OSX display problem
My screen is black and white If there is no color on your computer display, one of the screen contrast effects in System Preferences may be turned on. There are two screen contrast effects: Switch to Black on White and Set Display to Grayscale. To return your screen to its regular appearance, make sure that both of them are turned off. To turn off the contrast effect: 1. Choose Apple menu > System Preferences, and then click Universal Access. 2. Click Seeing. 3. If the Switch to Black on White button is visible, click it so it reads "Switch to White on Black." 4. If the Set Display to Color button is visible, click it so it reads "Set Display to Grayscale. Andrew Stiller wrote: Yesterday when shutting down my iMac, it did not at first shut down, but changed the display to graphite mode. When I pressed the shutdown keys again, shutdown took place normally. Today I find the display is still in graphite, wh. is depressing as hell, and I can't get my colors back no matter what I do. So far I have taken the following steps: repaired permissions. Checked out the Appearance panel, where "blue" is selected. I tried changing it to "graphite," restarted, changed it back to "blue" and restarted again. No luck. Tried logging out and back in again. The logout screen is in color, and when I log in or restart the initial display is in color, but as soon as the desktop background appears, everything switches back to B&W. Now what? I find the current appearance almost unbearable. I am presently, for example, typing white letters on a black background. I just can't work like this. Help! Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?
I fully concur with Allen and go a little further: I've found that HP has SO much proprietary intrusiveness to all their hardware, using their products -- or worse, getting rid of their componentry -- became a nightmare. I have an Epson Perfection 1260 -- relatively cheapo flatbed scanner and find it works just fine when importing with SmartScoreI'm using XP-Pro, 2004B and have installed the SP2 with absolutely no problems noted whatsoever. Best, Les Les MarsdenFounding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony OrchestraMusic and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.htmlhttp://www.sierratel.com/mcf/nprc/mso.htm - Original Message - From: Allen Fisher To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations? What our guys tell people at shows is go out and purchase a $49 CANNONscanner. Stay away from the HP's. The technology that HP uses to get theimage into electronic form (dithering) is problematic with SmartScore (proand lite) and I *think* it might be a problem for SharpEye as well.You don't need to spend a pile of money to get this to work. In our testingand use, the Cannon's seem to hold up the best.Hope this helps.AllenOn 9/10/04 5:13 PM, "Michael J. Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a good scanner?> I don't need the absolute top of the line, but I don't mind spending> about $250 or so for a really good one.> > What features should I look for? I'd like to be able to> use Finale to scan music in for Smartmusic playback, and also> just to have a good scanner that'd scan photos well.> > I am using Windows XP, SP2...> ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Jazz chord
Jazz Bassoonist. Now there's something you (thankfully) don't hear every day... :-P On 9/11/04 12:14 AM, "Carl Dershem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brad Beyenhof wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 22:46:24 -0400, John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> At 9:17 AM -0500 9/9/04, SCOTT GREEN wrote: >>> ... wiping eyes, trying not to disturb cow-orkers with convulsing laughter ... I think the only thing better would've been trying to teach bassoonists how to Swing. >>> >>> No, actually Presbyterians. >> >> >> Hey... I'm both a bassoonist and a Presbyterian (though I didn't >> "start out" with either), and one of my black friends once said that I >> was "the blackest white guy" he knew. >> >> In terms of playing jazz, that is. > > OK ... and just how many other jazz bassoonists does he know? > > cd > > ___ > Finale mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Jazz chord
Or as in a recent experience for me, Lutherans... On 9/10/04 9:46 PM, "John Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, actually Presbyterians. > > John > > ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: summer (was OSX display problem)
> On Sep 12, 2004, at 10:10 AM, Javier Ruiz wrote: > >> P.S. Is not everybody tired of this summer like me? I can´t wait for >> the >> first rains... Summer? What's that? We only have two seasons here in Minnesota: 1. Winter 2. Road Construction ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Scanner recommendations?
What our guys tell people at shows is go out and purchase a $49 CANNON scanner. Stay away from the HP's. The technology that HP uses to get the image into electronic form (dithering) is problematic with SmartScore (pro and lite) and I *think* it might be a problem for SharpEye as well. You don't need to spend a pile of money to get this to work. In our testing and use, the Cannon's seem to hold up the best. Hope this helps. Allen On 9/10/04 5:13 PM, "Michael J. Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a good scanner? > I don't need the absolute top of the line, but I don't mind spending > about $250 or so for a really good one. > > What features should I look for? I'd like to be able to > use Finale to scan music in for Smartmusic playback, and also > just to have a good scanner that'd scan photos well. > > I am using Windows XP, SP2... > > Thanks! > > Mike > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.757 / Virus Database: 507 - Release Date: 9/9/2004 > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
