Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Edwin Marzan]

I will be more than happy with a 10 band eq.

It can be argued that our radios can be difficult to set up but once we've 
learned the ins and outs of our radios they perform extremely well and in 
most cases superior to what is out there. Such would be the case with a 
parametric eq. With absolutely no experience using one I was able to solve 
an annoying problem in the audio of a soundtrack of a DVD that I was 
authoring in about 10 minutes. I believe this level of control if 
implemented intuitively would be a trememdous asset to flex users.

So perhaps not now but later down the pike!!

Now if I could only figure out how to tweak the settings in my AGC...

Regards,


Edwin Marzan
AB2VW





>From: Larry W8ER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: John P Basilotto W5GI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: 'Edwin Marzan' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:08:48 -0500
>
>John,
>
>I am using the famed Symetrix 528E which has a three band parametric EQ. 
>There are a lot of these units out there and frankly it is very easy to set 
>up and use .. even a caveman can do it!
>
>--Larry
>
>
>John P Basilotto W5GI wrote:
>>You are correct; however, a parametric EQ is difficult to setup. This is 
>>one
>>of the reason's that Yaesu is getting so many audio complains.  When setup
>>properly a parametric is the way to go.  Yaesu is sorry they included the
>>parametric EQ in there radio. We don't want to make the same mistake.
>>
>>John P. Basilotto
>>W5GI
>>Marketing and Product Manager
>>FlexRadio Systems
>>Office 512-535-5266
>>Mobile 512-608-6727
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
>>Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:06 PM
>>To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>>
>>Perhaps a parametric eq option can be considered?
>>
>>I've used a software based parametric eq in a video editing program and 
>>the amount of control was absolutely amazing. It would work similar to the 
>>3 band eq that currently exists except that instead of moving sliders up 
>>and down one would click on the horizontal green line to form a node and 
>>then be
>>
>>able to drag that node up or down. The bandwith of the nodes would be user 
>>configurable by creating more nodes. In effect you would be in total 
>>control
>>
>>of your eq waveform in a way that is not possible using conventional 
>>sliders
>>
>>This would blow away just about any eq out there, in my view.
>>
>>
>>
>>Edwin Marzan
>>AB2VW
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Eric Wachsmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "'Gerald Capodieci'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>>>Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:05 -0600
>>>
>>>We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ.  But it
>>>didn't work very well.  We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler
>>>version that performed at a level we were satisfied with.  One bird in 
>>>the
>>>hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing...
>>>
>>>I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever 
>>>get
>>>back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our 
>>>radio/software.
>>>
>>>
>>>Eric Wachsmann
>>>FlexRadio Systems
>>>
>>>
>>>>-Original Message-
>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci
>>>>Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM
>>>>To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>>>>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>>>>
>>>>Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq
>>>fields.
>>>
>>>>We use only 3 now. I  wonder what the other 28 are waiting for?
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Ahti Aintila]

Thank you, Eric and John,

I'm patiently waiting for the better 10-band EQ, but don't hurry. The
highest priority is the MODULAR PowerSDR.
Just wanted to say that the 15-band version was pretty good a couple
of years ago. Also I want to remind why I like a multiband EQ, not
because of the nice sounding "Hi-Fi" voice, but the punch through DX
pile-ups:



73, Ahti OH2RZ

On 02/02/07, Eric Wachsmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ.  But it
> didn't work very well.  We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler
> version that performed at a level we were satisfied with.  One bird in the
> hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing...
>
> I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get
> back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software.
>
>
> Eric Wachsmann
> FlexRadio Systems
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Larry W8ER]

John,

I am using the famed Symetrix 528E which has a three band parametric EQ. 
There are a lot of these units out there and frankly it is very easy to 
set up and use .. even a caveman can do it!

--Larry


John P Basilotto W5GI wrote:
> You are correct; however, a parametric EQ is difficult to setup. This is one
> of the reason's that Yaesu is getting so many audio complains.  When setup
> properly a parametric is the way to go.  Yaesu is sorry they included the
> parametric EQ in there radio. We don't want to make the same mistake.
>
> John P. Basilotto
> W5GI
> Marketing and Product Manager
> FlexRadio Systems
> Office 512-535-5266
> Mobile 512-608-6727
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:06 PM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>
> Perhaps a parametric eq option can be considered?
>
> I've used a software based parametric eq in a video editing program and the 
> amount of control was absolutely amazing. It would work similar to the 3 
> band eq that currently exists except that instead of moving sliders up and 
> down one would click on the horizontal green line to form a node and then be
>
> able to drag that node up or down. The bandwith of the nodes would be user 
> configurable by creating more nodes. In effect you would be in total control
>
> of your eq waveform in a way that is not possible using conventional sliders
>
> This would blow away just about any eq out there, in my view.
>
>
>
> Edwin Marzan
> AB2VW
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>> From: "Eric Wachsmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'Gerald Capodieci'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:05 -0600
>>
>> We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ.  But it
>> didn't work very well.  We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler
>> version that performed at a level we were satisfied with.  One bird in the
>> hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing...
>>
>> I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever 
>> get
>> back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our 
>> radio/software.
>>
>>
>> Eric Wachsmann
>> FlexRadio Systems
>>
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci
>>> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM
>>> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>>>
>>> Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq 
>>>   
>> fields.
>> 
>>> We use only 3 now. I  wonder what the other 28 are waiting for?
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Frank Mayer]

I agree 100% John!!  After years in pro audio there is nothing like a graphic 
EQ for voice work.  Parametric is good for zeroing on on a very specific 
problem are like feedback control where a single tone can be found and 
eliminated without noticeably affecting the mix.  If you have a good announcing 
mike like a a Shure SM-7,  EV re-27, or PR-40,  the 3 band will more than 
suffice.  Parametric will provide many ways to sound bad!
  - Original Message - 
  From: John P Basilotto W5GI 
  To: 'Edwin Marzan' ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
  Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment


  You are correct; however, a parametric EQ is difficult to setup. This is one
  of the reason's that Yaesu is getting so many audio complains.  When setup
  properly a parametric is the way to go.  Yaesu is sorry they included the
  parametric EQ in there radio. We don't want to make the same mistake.

  John P. Basilotto
  W5GI
  Marketing and Product Manager
  FlexRadio Systems
  Office 512-535-5266
  Mobile 512-608-6727



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
  Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:06 PM
  To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

  Perhaps a parametric eq option can be considered?

  I've used a software based parametric eq in a video editing program and the 
  amount of control was absolutely amazing. It would work similar to the 3 
  band eq that currently exists except that instead of moving sliders up and 
  down one would click on the horizontal green line to form a node and then be

  able to drag that node up or down. The bandwith of the nodes would be user 
  configurable by creating more nodes. In effect you would be in total control

  of your eq waveform in a way that is not possible using conventional sliders

  This would blow away just about any eq out there, in my view.



  Edwin Marzan
  AB2VW





  >From: "Eric Wachsmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >To: "'Gerald Capodieci'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  >Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
  >Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:05 -0600
  >
  >We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ.  But it
  >didn't work very well.  We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler
  >version that performed at a level we were satisfied with.  One bird in the
  >hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing...
  >
  >I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever 
  >get
  >back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our 
  >radio/software.
  >
  >
  >Eric Wachsmann
  >FlexRadio Systems
  >
  > > -Original Message-
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  > > radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci
  > > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM
  > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
  > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
  > >
  > > Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq 
  >fields.
  > > We use only 3 now. I  wonder what the other 28 are waiting for?
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[John P Basilotto W5GI]

You are correct; however, a parametric EQ is difficult to setup. This is one
of the reason's that Yaesu is getting so many audio complains.  When setup
properly a parametric is the way to go.  Yaesu is sorry they included the
parametric EQ in there radio. We don't want to make the same mistake.

John P. Basilotto
W5GI
Marketing and Product Manager
FlexRadio Systems
Office 512-535-5266
Mobile 512-608-6727



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:06 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

Perhaps a parametric eq option can be considered?

I've used a software based parametric eq in a video editing program and the 
amount of control was absolutely amazing. It would work similar to the 3 
band eq that currently exists except that instead of moving sliders up and 
down one would click on the horizontal green line to form a node and then be

able to drag that node up or down. The bandwith of the nodes would be user 
configurable by creating more nodes. In effect you would be in total control

of your eq waveform in a way that is not possible using conventional sliders

This would blow away just about any eq out there, in my view.



Edwin Marzan
AB2VW





>From: "Eric Wachsmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Gerald Capodieci'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:05 -0600
>
>We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ.  But it
>didn't work very well.  We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler
>version that performed at a level we were satisfied with.  One bird in the
>hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing...
>
>I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever 
>get
>back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our 
>radio/software.
>
>
>Eric Wachsmann
>FlexRadio Systems
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Capodieci
> > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 PM
> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
> >
> > Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq 
>fields.
> > We use only 3 now. I  wonder what the other 28 are waiting for?
> > -- next part --
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[John P Basilotto W5GI]

These were these frequencies at one time. The 10 band which will be
developed will conform to International standards. It has already been
designed and will most likely appear sometime this year.

John P. Basilotto
W5GI
Marketing and Product Manager
FlexRadio Systems
Office 512-535-5266
Mobile 512-608-6727



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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:45 PM
To: Frank Mayer; Eric Wachsmann; Gerald Capodieci; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

Three bands would work great if they were a parametric EQ that
incorporated a wide range variable frequency and sharp Q per control.

In a standard EQ I would like to see an 8 band with center frequencies
at:

100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 2400, 3200 & 4000 Hz to satisfy the AM crowd

-Tim W4TME


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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 3:21 PM
To: Eric Wachsmann; 'Gerald Capodieci'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

The 3 bands work just great!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Wachsmann 
  To: 'Gerald Capodieci' ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
  Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment


  We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ.  But it
  didn't work very well.  We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler
  version that performed at a level we were satisfied with.  One bird in
the
  hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing...

  I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll
ever get
  back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our
radio/software.


  Eric Wachsmann
  FlexRadio Systems

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  > Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Edwin Marzan]

Perhaps a parametric eq option can be considered?

I've used a software based parametric eq in a video editing program and the 
amount of control was absolutely amazing. It would work similar to the 3 
band eq that currently exists except that instead of moving sliders up and 
down one would click on the horizontal green line to form a node and then be 
able to drag that node up or down. The bandwith of the nodes would be user 
configurable by creating more nodes. In effect you would be in total control 
of your eq waveform in a way that is not possible using conventional sliders

This would blow away just about any eq out there, in my view.



Edwin Marzan
AB2VW





>From: "Eric Wachsmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Gerald Capodieci'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:41:05 -0600
>
>We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ.  But it
>didn't work very well.  We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler
>version that performed at a level we were satisfied with.  One bird in the
>hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing...
>
>I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever 
>get
>back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our 
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>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Tim Ellison]

Three bands would work great if they were a parametric EQ that
incorporated a wide range variable frequency and sharp Q per control.

In a standard EQ I would like to see an 8 band with center frequencies
at:

100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 2400, 3200 & 4000 Hz to satisfy the AM crowd

-Tim W4TME


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The 3 bands work just great!
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  From: Eric Wachsmann 
  To: 'Gerald Capodieci' ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
  Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment


  We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ.  But it
  didn't work very well.  We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler
  version that performed at a level we were satisfied with.  One bird in
the
  hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing...

  I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll
ever get
  back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our
radio/software.


  Eric Wachsmann
  FlexRadio Systems

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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Frank Mayer]

The 3 bands work just great!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Wachsmann 
  To: 'Gerald Capodieci' ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
  Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment


  We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ.  But it
  didn't work very well.  We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler
  version that performed at a level we were satisfied with.  One bird in the
  hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing...

  I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get
  back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software.


  Eric Wachsmann
  FlexRadio Systems

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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Eric Wachsmann]

We originally had a 31-band (and a 15-band) option for the EQ.  But it
didn't work very well.  We scaled it back in favor of having a simpler
version that performed at a level we were satisfied with.  One bird in the
hand is worth two in the bush kind of thing...

I'm sure we'll eventually have more than 3 bands, but I doubt we'll ever get
back to 31 as that was overkill in 99% of the cases with our radio/software.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Tim Ellison]

Code.

-Tim

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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

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Take a look inside the Database under TxProfile. There are 31 TxEq fields. We 
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Tim Ellison]

Edwin,

I use the EQplus from W2IHY as pre-processing before the FA-66.  I don't
need to, but since I like using my condenser mic on my back up rig (756
ProII), I set the EQplus so that the Pro II sounds good and then back
down the gain on the FA-66.  The big thing to watch is not to over drive
the compression.  I also LOVE the downward expander for reducing shack
noise.  It works better than a noise gate.  Setting up the EQplus this
way, I can switch between the three rigs with a twist of a knob.  It is
also convenient because PTT is controlled by the EQplus, so I have only
one foot peddle for all the HF rigs.

-Tim W4TME
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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:15 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

Hardware defined versus software defined.

Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers,
compressors, 
noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB?

Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in 
software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the
case?

I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there 
something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via
software 
if not now perhaps in the near future?

I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because

they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I
don't?

Thanks again...



Edwin Marzan
AB2VW

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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Jeff Anderson]

Hi Bob,

I'm using a Delta-44, but yes, it's essentially the same thing:  Pro-40
directly to the audio card.  No other external equipment.

- Jeff, K6JCA

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:35 PM
To: John P Basilotto W5GI; 'A.R.S. - W5AMI'; 'Jeff Anderson'
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment


I run my PR-40 directly into the Edirol and then it goes into the Flex.  I
assume that this is what K6JCA is doing, right?

Bob W6TR
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From: "John P Basilotto W5GI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'A.R.S. - W5AMI'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Jeff Anderson'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment


> Brian, Excellent idea. Please post it to the Features request page.
> Thanks.
>
> John P. Basilotto
> W5GI
> Marketing and Product Manager
> FlexRadio Systems
> Office 512-535-5266
> Mobile 512-608-6727
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: A.R.S. - W5AMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:45 PM
> To: Jeff Anderson
> Cc: Edwin Marzan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>
> I have lots of outboard audio gear.  Compressor, limiter, mic pre,
> eq's, etc.  I use that primarily with my old KW AM transmitter, but
> have found that just using the mic preamp and a Heil PR-40 into the
> Flex sounds GREAT on AM or SSB.  I'm not even using the built in EQ
> and got some very good audio reports on AM just yesterday.  The key is
> the transmit bandwidth you use.
>
> John (W5GI); I do think in addition to the 10 band EQ, it would be
> very helpful to have an audio limiter built in for AM use.  Is that
> possible?  Seems that since the code is there to measure mic level
> already, that a soft limiter could be coded with a user definable
> threshold in dB units...
>
> 73
> Brian / w5ami
>
>
> On 1/29/07, Jeff Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ed,  I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR.  No external
>> processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band
>> equalizer, per the "gang" I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB
> as
>> well as AM).  I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly
>> driving
>> SDRs, and they all sound great, too.
>>
>> I've set the SDR equalizer as follows:
>>
>>   Low:  Midpoint.
>>   Mid:  Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark.
>>   Hi:   Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks.
>>
>> Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50.
>>
>> - Jeff, K6JCA
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>>
>>
>> Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill.
>>
>> I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in
> eq
>> to get that hi fi sound.
>>
>> As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out
>> of
>> my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA
>> programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone
>> else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and
> the
>> abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to
>> contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But
>> for
>> now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job.
>>
>>
>>
>> Edwin Marzan
>> AB2VW
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: "John P Basilotto W5GI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: "'Edwin Marzan'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> >Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>> >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600
>> >
>> >PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast
> station.
>> >The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is
> the
>> >primary factor is sounding like a commercial station.  External audio
> gear
>> >like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious
>> >audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the
>> >SDR1K.
>> >I have a professional softwa

Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Bob Maser]

I run my PR-40 directly into the Edirol and then it goes into the Flex.  I 
assume that this is what K6JCA is doing, right?

Bob W6TR
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To: "'A.R.S. - W5AMI'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Jeff Anderson'" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment


> Brian, Excellent idea. Please post it to the Features request page. 
> Thanks.
>
> John P. Basilotto
> W5GI
> Marketing and Product Manager
> FlexRadio Systems
> Office 512-535-5266
> Mobile 512-608-6727
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: A.R.S. - W5AMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:45 PM
> To: Jeff Anderson
> Cc: Edwin Marzan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>
> I have lots of outboard audio gear.  Compressor, limiter, mic pre,
> eq's, etc.  I use that primarily with my old KW AM transmitter, but
> have found that just using the mic preamp and a Heil PR-40 into the
> Flex sounds GREAT on AM or SSB.  I'm not even using the built in EQ
> and got some very good audio reports on AM just yesterday.  The key is
> the transmit bandwidth you use.
>
> John (W5GI); I do think in addition to the 10 band EQ, it would be
> very helpful to have an audio limiter built in for AM use.  Is that
> possible?  Seems that since the code is there to measure mic level
> already, that a soft limiter could be coded with a user definable
> threshold in dB units...
>
> 73
> Brian / w5ami
>
>
> On 1/29/07, Jeff Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ed,  I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR.  No external
>> processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band
>> equalizer, per the "gang" I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB
> as
>> well as AM).  I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly 
>> driving
>> SDRs, and they all sound great, too.
>>
>> I've set the SDR equalizer as follows:
>>
>>   Low:  Midpoint.
>>   Mid:  Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark.
>>   Hi:   Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks.
>>
>> Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50.
>>
>> - Jeff, K6JCA
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>>
>>
>> Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill.
>>
>> I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in
> eq
>> to get that hi fi sound.
>>
>> As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out 
>> of
>> my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA
>> programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone
>> else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and
> the
>> abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to
>> contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But 
>> for
>> now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job.
>>
>>
>>
>> Edwin Marzan
>> AB2VW
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: "John P Basilotto W5GI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: "'Edwin Marzan'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> >Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>> >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600
>> >
>> >PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast
> station.
>> >The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is
> the
>> >primary factor is sounding like a commercial station.  External audio
> gear
>> >like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious
>> >audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the
>> >SDR1K.
>> >I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill
> for
>> >amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with.  We are
> planning
>> >to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans 
>> >to
>> >add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if
> you
>> >know how to write software you can develop your own software defined
>

Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[A.R.S. - W5AMI]

Will do John.  Thanks!

Brian


On 2/1/07, John P Basilotto W5GI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian, Excellent idea. Please post it to the Features request page. Thanks.
>
> John P. Basilotto
> W5GI
> Marketing and Product Manager
> FlexRadio Systems
> Office 512-535-5266
> Mobile 512-608-6727
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: A.R.S. - W5AMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:45 PM
> To: Jeff Anderson
> Cc: Edwin Marzan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>
> I have lots of outboard audio gear.  Compressor, limiter, mic pre,
> eq's, etc.  I use that primarily with my old KW AM transmitter, but
> have found that just using the mic preamp and a Heil PR-40 into the
> Flex sounds GREAT on AM or SSB.  I'm not even using the built in EQ
> and got some very good audio reports on AM just yesterday.  The key is
> the transmit bandwidth you use.
>
> John (W5GI); I do think in addition to the 10 band EQ, it would be
> very helpful to have an audio limiter built in for AM use.  Is that
> possible?  Seems that since the code is there to measure mic level
> already, that a soft limiter could be coded with a user definable
> threshold in dB units...
>
> 73
> Brian / w5ami
>
>
> On 1/29/07, Jeff Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ed,  I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR.  No external
> > processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band
> > equalizer, per the "gang" I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB
> as
> > well as AM).  I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly driving
> > SDRs, and they all sound great, too.
> >
> > I've set the SDR equalizer as follows:
> >
> >   Low:  Midpoint.
> >   Mid:  Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark.
> >   Hi:   Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks.
> >
> > Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50.
> >
> > - Jeff, K6JCA
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
> >
> >
> > Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill.
> >
> > I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in
> eq
> > to get that hi fi sound.
> >
> > As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of
> > my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA
> > programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone
> > else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and
> the
> > abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to
> > contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for
> > now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job.
> >
> >
> >
> > Edwin Marzan
> > AB2VW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "John P Basilotto W5GI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "'Edwin Marzan'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > >Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
> > >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600
> > >
> > >PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast
> station.
> > >The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is
> the
> > >primary factor is sounding like a commercial station.  External audio
> gear
> > >like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious
> > >audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the
> > >SDR1K.
> > >I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill
> for
> > >amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with.  We are
> planning
> > >to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to
> > >add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if
> you
> > >know how to write software you can develop your own software defined
> audio
> > >tools within PoerSDR.
> > >
> > >John P. Basilotto
> > >W5GI
> > >Marketing and Product Manager
> > >FlexRadio Systems
> > >Office 512-535-5266
> > >Mobile 512-608-6727
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >F

Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[John P Basilotto W5GI]

Brian, Excellent idea. Please post it to the Features request page. Thanks.

John P. Basilotto
W5GI
Marketing and Product Manager
FlexRadio Systems
Office 512-535-5266
Mobile 512-608-6727



-Original Message-
From: A.R.S. - W5AMI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:45 PM
To: Jeff Anderson
Cc: Edwin Marzan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

I have lots of outboard audio gear.  Compressor, limiter, mic pre,
eq's, etc.  I use that primarily with my old KW AM transmitter, but
have found that just using the mic preamp and a Heil PR-40 into the
Flex sounds GREAT on AM or SSB.  I'm not even using the built in EQ
and got some very good audio reports on AM just yesterday.  The key is
the transmit bandwidth you use.

John (W5GI); I do think in addition to the 10 band EQ, it would be
very helpful to have an audio limiter built in for AM use.  Is that
possible?  Seems that since the code is there to measure mic level
already, that a soft limiter could be coded with a user definable
threshold in dB units...

73
Brian / w5ami


On 1/29/07, Jeff Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ed,  I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR.  No external
> processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band
> equalizer, per the "gang" I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB
as
> well as AM).  I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly driving
> SDRs, and they all sound great, too.
>
> I've set the SDR equalizer as follows:
>
>   Low:  Midpoint.
>   Mid:  Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark.
>   Hi:   Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks.
>
> Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50.
>
> - Jeff, K6JCA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>
>
> Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill.
>
> I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in
eq
> to get that hi fi sound.
>
> As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of
> my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA
> programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone
> else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and
the
> abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to
> contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for
> now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job.
>
>
>
> Edwin Marzan
> AB2VW
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "John P Basilotto W5GI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Edwin Marzan'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
> >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600
> >
> >PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast
station.
> >The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is
the
> >primary factor is sounding like a commercial station.  External audio
gear
> >like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious
> >audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the
> >SDR1K.
> >I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill
for
> >amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with.  We are
planning
> >to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to
> >add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if
you
> >know how to write software you can develop your own software defined
audio
> >tools within PoerSDR.
> >
> >John P. Basilotto
> >W5GI
> >Marketing and Product Manager
> >FlexRadio Systems
> >Office 512-535-5266
> >Mobile 512-608-6727
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
> >Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM
> >To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> >Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
> >
> >Hardware defined versus software defined.
> >
> >Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers,
> >compressors,
> >
> >noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB?
> >
> >Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in
> >software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the
case?
> >
> >I was thinking of 

Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[A.R.S. - W5AMI]

I have lots of outboard audio gear.  Compressor, limiter, mic pre,
eq's, etc.  I use that primarily with my old KW AM transmitter, but
have found that just using the mic preamp and a Heil PR-40 into the
Flex sounds GREAT on AM or SSB.  I'm not even using the built in EQ
and got some very good audio reports on AM just yesterday.  The key is
the transmit bandwidth you use.

John (W5GI); I do think in addition to the 10 band EQ, it would be
very helpful to have an audio limiter built in for AM use.  Is that
possible?  Seems that since the code is there to measure mic level
already, that a soft limiter could be coded with a user definable
threshold in dB units...

73
Brian / w5ami


On 1/29/07, Jeff Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ed,  I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR.  No external
> processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band
> equalizer, per the "gang" I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB as
> well as AM).  I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly driving
> SDRs, and they all sound great, too.
>
> I've set the SDR equalizer as follows:
>
>   Low:  Midpoint.
>   Mid:  Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark.
>   Hi:   Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks.
>
> Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50.
>
> - Jeff, K6JCA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>
>
> Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill.
>
> I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in eq
> to get that hi fi sound.
>
> As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of
> my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA
> programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone
> else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and the
> abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to
> contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for
> now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job.
>
>
>
> Edwin Marzan
> AB2VW
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "John P Basilotto W5GI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Edwin Marzan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
> >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600
> >
> >PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station.
> >The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the
> >primary factor is sounding like a commercial station.  External audio gear
> >like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious
> >audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the
> >SDR1K.
> >I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for
> >amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with.  We are planning
> >to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to
> >add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you
> >know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio
> >tools within PoerSDR.
> >
> >John P. Basilotto
> >W5GI
> >Marketing and Product Manager
> >FlexRadio Systems
> >Office 512-535-5266
> >Mobile 512-608-6727
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
> >Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM
> >To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> >Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
> >
> >Hardware defined versus software defined.
> >
> >Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers,
> >compressors,
> >
> >noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB?
> >
> >Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in
> >software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case?
> >
> >I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there
> >something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software
> >if not now perhaps in the near future?
> >
> >I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because
> >they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't?
> >
> >Thanks again...
> >
> >
> >

Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Jeff Anderson]

Ed,  I use a Heil Pro40 and run it directly into the SDR.  No external
processing equipment is required, and resulting audio using the 3-band
equalizer, per the "gang" I talk with, sounds great (both on wideband SSB as
well as AM).  I've also heard several other Heil Pro mics directly driving
SDRs, and they all sound great, too.

I've set the SDR equalizer as follows:

  Low:  Midpoint.
  Mid:  Midpoint + 1 Tick Mark.
  Hi:   Midpoint + 2 Tick Marks.

Mic gain is somewhere in the vicinity of 50.

- Jeff, K6JCA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment


Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill.

I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in eq
to get that hi fi sound.

As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of
my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA
programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone
else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and the
abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to
contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for
now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job.



Edwin Marzan
AB2VW





>From: "John P Basilotto W5GI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Edwin Marzan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600
>
>PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station.
>The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the
>primary factor is sounding like a commercial station.  External audio gear
>like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious
>audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the
>SDR1K.
>I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for
>amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with.  We are planning
>to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to
>add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you
>know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio
>tools within PoerSDR.
>
>John P. Basilotto
>W5GI
>Marketing and Product Manager
>FlexRadio Systems
>Office 512-535-5266
>Mobile 512-608-6727
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM
>To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>
>Hardware defined versus software defined.
>
>Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers,
>compressors,
>
>noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB?
>
>Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in
>software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case?
>
>I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there
>something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software
>if not now perhaps in the near future?
>
>I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because
>they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't?
>
>Thanks again...
>
>
>
>Edwin Marzan
>AB2VW
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Edwin Marzan]

Sounds to me that a 10 band eq should be able to foot the bill.

I have a Heil PR20 microphone and I hoping to tweak it with the built in eq 
to get that hi fi sound.

As far as creating user defined features by programming in C#, it's out of 
my league for now. DSP theory is also quite complex. I can do light VBA 
programming and some of the best code I've written was written by someone 
else. Perhaps as some of the programming tools become easier to use and the 
abundance of coding examples become available more of us will be able to 
contribute to the ever evolving front end of this fantastic radio. But for 
now I must rely on the extremely talented DSP gurus to do the job.



Edwin Marzan
AB2VW





>From: "John P Basilotto W5GI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Edwin Marzan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:06 -0600
>
>PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station.
>The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the
>primary factor is sounding like a commercial station.  External audio gear
>like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious
>audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the 
>SDR1K.
>I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for
>amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with.  We are planning
>to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to
>add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you
>know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio
>tools within PoerSDR.
>
>John P. Basilotto
>W5GI
>Marketing and Product Manager
>FlexRadio Systems
>Office 512-535-5266
>Mobile 512-608-6727
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edwin Marzan
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:15 PM
>To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment
>
>Hardware defined versus software defined.
>
>Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, 
>compressors,
>
>noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB?
>
>Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in
>software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case?
>
>I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there
>something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software
>if not now perhaps in the near future?
>
>I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because
>they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't?
>
>Thanks again...
>
>
>
>Edwin Marzan
>AB2VW
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Larry W8ER]

Ed,

I, like Dudley, use external audio gear so I can feed all of the gear I 
use with the same audio (TS-870, TM-241's, computers, etc.) After a lot 
of experimenting I found that external audio equipment provided the best 
and most versatile on the air sound. That was a while ago however, prior 
to Bob adding the three band EQ. I suspect that the three band EQ and 
processing code that exists now may be quite sufficient to give anyone 
very nice sounding and effective audio without the additional expense 
and trouble of external audio gear. If you are a purist and have many 
hundreds of dollars lying around, go for it .. but only after you have 
tried what the SDR-1000 software has to offer and determined that the 
external gear is necessary.

--Larry W8ER

Edwin Marzan wrote:
> Hardware defined versus software defined.
>
> Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, 
> noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB?
>
> Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in 
> software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case?
>
> I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there 
> something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software 
> if not now perhaps in the near future?
>
> I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because 
> they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't?
>
> Thanks again...
>
>
>
> Edwin Marzan
> AB2VW
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Tim Ellison]

I believe this is it

http://www.valpeyfisher.com/openlink.aspx?name=Images/ProductPDFs/XO/VF1
60_RevA0906.pdf

-Tim
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Integrated Technical Services

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean-marc BORD
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:21 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

Hi,

I am looking for the reference or the spec of the 200MHz oscillator used

in the SDR1K DDS board.
It looks like it's a 3,3v device.

Regards
Jean-marc F1HDI




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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Frank Mayer]

A lot depends on the microphone you will be using.  Any microphone designed for 
professional audio equipment and not ham radio will likely need equalization on 
any radio, software defined or not.  The EQ within the software of the Flex is 
just fine for most any microphone and audio setup.  Remember however that the 
D44 soundcard does not provide phantom power for pro condenser mics but neither 
does the IHY box for that matter.  I guess the bottom line is that the Flex 
software will get you there with a good quality microphone.


- Original Message - 
  From: Edwin Marzan 
  To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz 
  Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:15 PM
  Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment


  Hardware defined versus software defined.

  Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, 
  noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB?

  Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in 
  software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case?

  I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there 
  something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software 
  if not now perhaps in the near future?

  I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because 
  they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't?

  Thanks again...



  Edwin Marzan
  AB2VW

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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Jean-marc BORD]

Hi,

I am looking for the reference or the spec of the 200MHz oscillator used 
in the SDR1K DDS board.
It looks like it's a 3,3v device.

Regards
Jean-marc F1HDI




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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Dudley Hurry]

Ed,

I use external audio gear and keep the Flex transmit audio unchecked 
or flat,  but the external gear is so that the other radios in my 
station will sound the same..   But since I almost exclusively use 
the Flex,  I could just connect my microphone directly into the sound 
card (or box in the case of the FireBox and Fa-66)  and not have any 
of this external gear.   A little over a year ago, the equalization 
options were changing with every version and did make it difficult to 
keep up with,  but even the Alpha versions have been stable for quite 
a while,  so operating directly in is now a good option.   Now we 
even have a noise gate like the IHY boxes, in the console..

I love this radio stuff!!

73,
Dudley
WA5QPZ




At 02:15 PM 1/29/2007, Edwin Marzan wrote:
>Hardware defined versus software defined.
>
>Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors,
>noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB?
>
>Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in
>software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case?
>
>I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there
>something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software
>if not now perhaps in the near future?
>
>I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because
>they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't?
>
>Thanks again...
>
>
>
>Edwin Marzan
>AB2VW
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[John P Basilotto W5GI]

PowerSDR has most of the features needed to sound like a broadcast station.
The most important feature is the ability to set filter width, which is the
primary factor is sounding like a commercial station.  External audio gear
like the W2IHY boxes and other products typically used by serious
audiophiles will enhance the audio quality of any radio including the SDR1K.
I have a professional software defined audio system, which is overkill for
amateur applications but it's certainly fun to play with.  We are planning
to add a 10 band EQ to the PowerSDR but beyond that there are no plans to
add additional audio applications. The beauty of our product is that if you
know how to write software you can develop your own software defined audio
tools within PoerSDR.

John P. Basilotto
W5GI
Marketing and Product Manager
FlexRadio Systems
Office 512-535-5266
Mobile 512-608-6727



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Subject: [Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

Hardware defined versus software defined.

Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors,

noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB?

Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in 
software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case?

I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there 
something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software 
if not now perhaps in the near future?

I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because 
they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't?

Thanks again...



Edwin Marzan
AB2VW

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[Flexradio] Outboard audio equipment

[Edwin Marzan]

Hardware defined versus software defined.

Do FlexRadio Owners really need outboard equipment (equalizers, compressors, 
noise gates etc) in order to get that high fidelity sound on AM and SSB?

Can all of the parameters that create the hi fi sound be created in 
software? Since our radios are software defined shouldn't that be the case?

I was thinking of purchasing the eight band eq from W2IHY. Is there 
something that this product delivers that cannot be delivered via software 
if not now perhaps in the near future?

I noticed a few ads on QTH.com stating they are selling their eq because 
they are switching to the Flex. Do these folks know something that I don't?

Thanks again...



Edwin Marzan
AB2VW

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