FLUXLIST: accidental fluxlist
It was a dark and stormy night, long, long ago and far away, I don't recall how I happened on Fluxlist, something about Seattle, or digital art, but at first it appealed to an absurdist element in my strivingly rationalist nature. Later, I came to learn about Fluxus, vaguely, more osmotically than referentially, and I'm still here, listening and throwing pennies and wooden nickels. Watching how the sometimes uncool geeky cool crowd does it, but knowing we're special and of course that doesn't matter, for among other things we knew Miss Petal. Fluxlist has its own history. Present, etc. Last week I saw the Dieter Roth exhibit and was much more satisfied than I thought I'd be. So messy! It was the insides turned outside and yeah I liked it, mostly. Though my sensibilities are inclined toward form, my curiosity is captured by painted postcards. And context. Does anyone know the origin of the phrase "tea and crumpets"? Much pleased to share your wit and wobbly grinks, Kathy
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---The phrase "tea and crumpets" was I believe, first mentioned in the ancient Book of Crump back in the 12th century by the sage and onion gatherer poet WIlhem de Marmalude. IN a strange dialect only known to himself and few followers he thus describes his first meeting with FHartley Forfesters- the Treacle bearer. " Doush thou be lumpit, Me olde dear crump It maketh me slump IN me glope wiv tea An crumpet play lood On the pink trumpet" A.1.Waste PAper Co. Ltd. Kathy Forer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was a dark and stormy night, long, long ago and > far away, I don't > recall how I happened on Fluxlist, something about > Seattle, or digital > art, but at first it appealed to an absurdist > element in my strivingly > rationalist nature. Later, I came to learn about > Fluxus, vaguely, more > osmotically than referentially, and I'm still here, > listening and > throwing pennies and wooden nickels. > > Watching how the sometimes uncool geeky cool crowd > does it, but knowing > we're special and of course that doesn't matter, for > among other things > we knew Miss Petal. Fluxlist has its own history. > Present, etc. > > Last week I saw the Dieter Roth exhibit and was much > more satisfied > than I thought I'd be. So messy! It was the insides > turned outside and > yeah I liked it, mostly. Though my sensibilities are > inclined toward > form, my curiosity is captured by painted postcards. > And context. > > Does anyone know the origin of the phrase "tea and > crumpets"? > > Much pleased to share your wit and wobbly grinks, > Kathy > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
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Oddly therre is an anonymous Kufic script from 10th century which reads: "Deus, my beloved, behold dervish crump IT may be something in me. Lets grope with tea and crumpets sing coo coo to the pink strumpet" The Button Press >" Doush thou be lumpit, > Me olde dear crump > It maketh me slump > IN me glope wiv tea > An crumpet play lood > On the pink trumpet" > > A.1.Waste PAper Co. Ltd. > >
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--Well, strangley enough I was I teh BArgain Booze down the road just now and I accidentally fell into a time portal situated in between the Cheese and onion Crisp dispenser and the Tasmanian Champagne and ended up in Gaul in the 9th century! As luck would have it a nearby empty castle contained a huge library of mouldering books and parchments and on one rather smelly and disgusting peice of vellum was scrawled- " Qhel merde de frottage, Dans le frappe mon page Avec le tea et crumpette Pour les grande souflette!" Michael suse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oddly therre is an anonymous Kufic script from 10th > century which reads: > > "Deus, my beloved, > behold dervish crump > IT may be something > in me. Lets grope with tea > and crumpets sing coo coo > to the pink strumpet" > > The Button Press > > > >" Doush thou be lumpit, > > Me olde dear crump > > It maketh me slump > > IN me glope wiv tea > > An crumpet play lood > > On the pink trumpet" > > > > A.1.Waste PAper Co. Ltd. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
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OK folks I'm back and I only have 2458 fluxlist post to read. Kinda late, uh? Actually, I moved, and since the 9th of july I'm making heavy work in my new house (like the roof, the whole electric wiring, the tranformation of the ceiling into a living space etc.) and it's only now that I have the possibility to get my mails (even though it's a low stream connection) I still have to make a bathroom, to restore five or six rooms, and to garden a bit to eradicate the jungle we have backyard, and we'll be fine with the childrenin 2012 (alas the university is opening in 10 days, and I haven't yet prepared a single lesson...) Otherwise, even if the website is not our main occupation currently (euphemism), we're organising a flash exhibit of Ben Patterson in the University of Paris-8: two days only in their exhibiting space, but also a lecture/workshop in the seminar of Prof. Liliane Terrier on wed. evening. + We'll have a dinner with some of the FLuxus artists that have answered to the invitation of the Center G. Pompidou for the opening of the big exhibition "the sound in art" which is to open on the 21st of Sept. More to come soon, hope you all spent a nice summer (winter for those who live beyond the equator), and I begin to read all those delayed posts Bertrand - Original Message - From: "michael leigh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:06 AM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: accidental fluxlist > ---The phrase "tea and crumpets" was I believe, first > mentioned in the ancient Book of Crump back in the > 12th century by the sage and onion gatherer poet > WIlhem de Marmalude. IN a strange dialect only known > to himself and few followers he thus describes his > first meeting with FHartley Forfesters- the Treacle > bearer. >" Doush thou be lumpit, > Me olde dear crump > It maketh me slump > IN me glope wiv tea > An crumpet play lood > On the pink trumpet" > > A.1.Waste PAper Co. Ltd. > > > Kathy Forer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was a dark > and stormy night, long, long ago and > > far away, I don't > > recall how I happened on Fluxlist, something about > > Seattle, or digital > > art, but at first it appealed to an absurdist > > element in my strivingly > > rationalist nature. Later, I came to learn about > > Fluxus, vaguely, more > > osmotically than referentially, and I'm still here, > > listening and > > throwing pennies and wooden nickels. > > > > Watching how the sometimes uncool geeky cool crowd > > does it, but knowing > > we're special and of course that doesn't matter, for > > among other things > > we knew Miss Petal. Fluxlist has its own history. > > Present, etc. > > > > Last week I saw the Dieter Roth exhibit and was much > > more satisfied > > than I thought I'd be. So messy! It was the insides > > turned outside and > > yeah I liked it, mostly. Though my sensibilities are > > inclined toward > > form, my curiosity is captured by painted postcards. > > And context. > > > > Does anyone know the origin of the phrase "tea and > > crumpets"? > > > > Much pleased to share your wit and wobbly grinks, > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html > >
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hello Bertrand, I have about 2113 to read.and I have not made a bathroom either. - Original Message - From: "Bertrand Clavez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: accidental fluxlist > I still have to make a bathroom,
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Michael, I have to take issue with you there. Norbeth Winkfartle, the 13th Century German etymologist and wood shavings reconstructionalist quotes this verse by Gertrude Nqzthmmprtzzfjp, the unpronounceable acupuncturist and chronicler to the court of King Stupid the Peddler dated 11th century - Wan thet croompit with his talleth phoon Be set with tea and a pinke tromboone Not only an earlier mention of tea and crumpets but also the first ever reference to the telephone. Hope this clears it up. Roger ---The phrase "tea and crumpets" was I believe, first mentioned in the ancient Book of Crump back in the 12th century by the sage and onion gatherer poet WIlhem de Marmalude. IN a strange dialect only known to himself and few followers he thus describes his first meeting with FHartley Forfesters- the Treacle bearer. " Doush thou be lumpit, Me olde dear crump It maketh me slump IN me glope wiv tea An crumpet play lood On the pink trumpet" A.1.Waste PAper Co. Ltd. Kathy Forer wrote: > > Does anyone know the origin of the phrase "tea and > crumpets"? > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
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---Sorry, you are wrong in several parts, notably the word "croompit" in the 13th century was infact a lowly dwelling place for itinerant "croom" sharpeners - this being the pointed end of ruddish stick used in pea foddling ceremonies about that time. The "talleth phoon" was actually a very tall spoon for scooping dead earwigs from the tops of beehives and elaborate hair-do's of that time. Please try and get your facts right in future. Michael Roger Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael, I have to take issue with you there. > Norbeth Winkfartle, the > 13th Century German etymologist and wood shavings > reconstructionalist > quotes this verse by Gertrude Nqzthmmprtzzfjp, the > unpronounceable > acupuncturist and chronicler to the court of King > Stupid the Peddler > dated 11th century - > > Wan thet croompit with his talleth phoon > Be set with tea and a pinke tromboone > > Not only an earlier mention of tea and crumpets but > also the first ever > reference to the telephone. > > Hope this clears it up. > > Roger > > ---The phrase "tea and crumpets" was I believe, > first > mentioned in the ancient Book of Crump back in the > 12th century by the sage and onion gatherer poet > WIlhem de Marmalude. IN a strange dialect only known > to himself and few followers he thus describes his > first meeting with FHartley Forfesters- the Treacle > bearer. >" Doush thou be lumpit, > Me olde dear crump > It maketh me slump > IN me glope wiv tea > An crumpet play lood > On the pink trumpet" > > A.1.Waste PAper Co. Ltd. > > > Kathy Forer wrote: > > > > Does anyone know the origin of the phrase "tea and > > crumpets"? > > > > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html > > > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
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And, here, I thought a crompid was a fork in the road, best taken within an intersection. http://www.quinion.com/words/topicalwords/
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Some further observations on the origins of "crumpets" Crumpet = a small crumb kept as a pet crumpet = a crumpled petal soaked in rum crumpet = a squashed trumpet crumpet = an umpires petulant stare crumpet = a rather foul fart after eating rump steak --- Kathy Forer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And, here, I thought a crompid was a fork in the > road, best taken > within an intersection. > > http://www.quinion.com/words/topicalwords/ > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
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In a message dated 5/26/04 12:33:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: crumpet = a squashed trumpet excellent!
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from crumpet to crumb pit >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: accidental fluxlist and crumpets >Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 18:20:04 EDT > > >In a message dated 5/26/04 12:33:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > crumpet = a squashed trumpet > > > >excellent! FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now!
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Jill visited NY a couple of weeks ago and visited the Dieter Roth exhibition. She said it was wonderful. She brought me back the catalogue. Well, I say catalogue - it's actually a 300 page large-format book. Roth Time - A Dieter Roth Retrospective. It's magnificent. What staggered me was just how much work the guy produced. I had no idea he was so prolific. He's always been one of my favourite artists and was quite an influence on my work. I first came across his work in the library of the Art College when I was a sculpture student (this would have been 1968? 69?) It was book full of little poems and sayings stuck in with transparent sticky tape. I just thought... WOW! Kathy Forer wrote - Last week I saw the Dieter Roth exhibit and was much more satisfied than I thought I'd be. So messy! It was the insides turned outside and yeah I liked it, mostly. Though my sensibilities are inclined toward form, my curiosity is captured by painted postcards. And context.
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---Gosh, Roger, I had no idea you'd studied sculpture at art college. I'd always imagined you'd carved poems at Poetry College! You learn something new every day o n teh FLusxlist! Michael Roger Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jill visited NY a couple of weeks ago and visited > the Dieter Roth > exhibition. She said it was wonderful. She brought > me back the > catalogue. Well, I say catalogue - it's actually a > 300 page large-format > book. > Roth Time - A Dieter Roth Retrospective. It's > magnificent. > > What staggered me was just how much work the guy > produced. I had no idea > he was so prolific. > > He's always been one of my favourite artists and was > quite an influence > on my work. I first came across his work in the > library of the Art > College when I was a sculpture student (this would > have been 1968? 69?) > It was book full of little poems and sayings stuck > in with transparent > sticky tape. I just thought... WOW! > > > Kathy Forer wrote - > Last week I saw the Dieter Roth exhibit and was > much more satisfied > than I thought I'd be. So messy! It was the insides > turned outside and > yeah I liked it, mostly. Though my sensibilities are > inclined toward > form, my curiosity is captured by painted postcards. > And context. > > > > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
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My favorite pieces, the one that reconciled me to the many others, which I had been amused by but didn't necessarily "get," were the tapestries, done in collaboration with weavers Wiener and Export. Also the fecund assemblages. One of a barroom with a "behind the scenes" backside. Another with a radio intriguingly tuned to a station reporting local current events, weather and traffic. Amazing how the organic pieces were so early, or perhaps the repeats and variations we see now are so "late." His influences on and by are palpable. There's a good flash of the exhibit at http://moma.org/exhibitions/2004/dieterroth/rothtime.html
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-Thanks for this link Kathy. Looks like a great exhibition. Michael Kathy Forer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My favorite pieces, the one that reconciled me to > the many others, > which I had been amused by but didn't necessarily > "get," were the > tapestries, done in collaboration with weavers > Wiener and Export. Also > the fecund assemblages. One of a barroom with a > "behind the scenes" > backside. Another with a radio intriguingly tuned to > a station > reporting local current events, weather and traffic. > > Amazing how the organic pieces were so early, or > perhaps the repeats > and variations we see now are so "late." His > influences on and by are > palpable. > > There's a good flash of the exhibit at > http://moma.org/exhibitions/2004/dieterroth/rothtime.html > > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html
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Roger wrote on Dieter Roth: > He's always been one of my favourite artists and was quite an influence > on my work. I first came across his work in the library of the Art > College when I was a sculpture student (this would have been 1968? 69?) > It was book full of little poems and sayings stuck in with transparent > sticky tape. I just thought... WOW! > That book sounds like 246 Little Clouds published by Dick Higgins' Something Else Press..I have to say I'm the proud owner of a near mint original copy..one of the more treasured books I have. I bought it in Amsterdam on my Birthday a few years ago, then we got the bus to Edam but found out that Edam is no longer made in Edam.?? Anyway I thoroughly recommend it and you can still pick it up quite cheap from abebooks.com or sommat like that. cheers, Sol.
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Abebooks.com I suspect that is the very book and I'd love a copy I'll have a look. I've done several searches but the cheapest I've found so far is £87 or $200 XXX Roger Visit The Poetry Zone http://www.poetryzone.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sol Nte Sent: 28 May 2004 13:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: accidental fluxlist and Dieter Roth Roger wrote on Dieter Roth: > He's always been one of my favourite artists and was quite an influence > on my work. I first came across his work in the library of the Art > College when I was a sculpture student (this would have been 1968? 69?) > It was book full of little poems and sayings stuck in with transparent > sticky tape. I just thought... WOW! > That book sounds like 246 Little Clouds published by Dick Higgins' Something Else Press..I have to say I'm the proud owner of a near mint original copy..one of the more treasured books I have. I bought it in Amsterdam on my Birthday a few years ago, then we got the bus to Edam but found out that Edam is no longer made in Edam.?? Anyway I thoroughly recommend it and you can still pick it up quite cheap from abebooks.com or sommat like that. cheers, Sol.
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I used to spend hours looking at this at the University Library at UW-Madison when I was a youngun. On Friday, May 28, 2004, at 07:38 AM, Sol Nte wrote: That book sounds like 246 Little Clouds published by Dick Higgins' Something Else Press..I have to say I'm the proud owner of a near mint original copy..one of the more treasured books I have. I bought it in Amsterdam on my Birthday a few years ago, then we got the bus to Edam but found out that Edam is no longer made in Edam.??
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In a message dated 6/10/04 3:48:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Birthday a few years ago, then we got the bus to Edam but found out > that > Edam is no longer made in Edam.?? that is so sick!
