Referenced graphics dislodging & thin line appearance

[Robert CH Shell]

Hi Framers:
I wonder if anyone has experienced the situation where referenced graphics
slip out of their anchored frames while updating the book, especially the
case (with me) of huge files and many graphics?
My graphics are on a separate drive or rather partition of the same drive.
Is there anything to do about it?
As it stands, I am like the man in the shower trying to grab that slippery
soap.
Note: Only jpgs under 250 kb used.

While I have the loud hailer, I wonder how to get rid of that thin line that
appears in a pdf graphic either on the right hand side or left.
Carefully cropped out in Photoshop.


Thanks
Rob

PC
8 Gbyte
3 terrabyte drives
Windows 7 
64 bit
TCS 4
Creative suite CS4
Flash Professional

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Referenced graphics dislodging thin line appearance

[Robert CH Shell]

Hi Framers:
I wonder if anyone has experienced the situation where referenced graphics
slip out of their anchored frames while updating the book, especially the
case (with me) of huge files and many graphics?
My graphics are on a separate drive or rather partition of the same drive.
Is there anything to do about it?
As it stands, I am like the man in the shower trying to grab that slippery
soap.
Note: Only jpgs under 250 kb used.

While I have the loud hailer, I wonder how to get rid of that thin line that
appears in a pdf graphic either on the right hand side or left.
Carefully cropped out in Photoshop.


Thanks
Rob

PC
8 Gbyte
3 terrabyte drives
Windows 7 
64 bit
TCS 4
Creative suite CS4
Flash Professional

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Transfer of referenced graphics follow up report: brilliant utility [XtraBookUtils] the solution

[Rob Shell]

Dear Framers: 
following my mournful complaint of finding all my referenced graphics on an
incorrect drive following a clean install of windows 64, I am happy to
report that thanks to a really brilliant plugin by Harro de Jong, anybody
can restore their original drive letters in a snap.
The plugin is flawless and scours the files--even finds referenced graphics
on the reference pages.
The plug in works by creating a two column table with the original
referenced path name and file name on the left and a duplicate on the right
column all in a regular Framemaker document. The right hand column can be
edited in any way you like, e.g. find and replace H:\ with G:\.  This little
honey badger of a utility just chewed its way through nearly 11,000
incorrectly referenced graphics!

I am sure the plugin has many other uses, for my part I found a few
misplaced .tifs. [replace with jpg].


Thanks too to other Framers, Rebecca Officer  al  who taught me about
graphics on different drives. The interesting thing was the reference
graphics which survived were on the same drive as the root directory of C:
Since I cannot fit my graphics on D and E,  I will continue to use my old
system. And hope I do not have to do another install for some time.
 Rob Shell wrote:
 My questions are
 How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
Use XtraBookUtils:
 http://www.bache.name/sgml.html
This creates a list of all graphics in the book, you can edit the paths in
that list and then the plugin will convert the paths. 
Harro de Jong
Triview


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Transfer of referenced graphics follow up report: brilliant utility [XtraBookUtils] the solution

[Rob Shell]

Dear Framers: 
following my mournful complaint of finding all my referenced graphics on an
incorrect drive following a clean install of windows 64, I am happy to
report that thanks to a really brilliant plugin by Harro de Jong, anybody
can restore their original drive letters in a snap.
The plugin is flawless and scours the files--even finds referenced graphics
on the reference pages.
The plug in works by creating a two column table with the original
referenced path name and file name on the left and a duplicate on the right
column all in a regular Framemaker document. The right hand column can be
edited in any way you like, e.g. find and replace H:\ with G:\.  This little
honey badger of a utility just chewed its way through nearly 11,000
incorrectly referenced graphics!

I am sure the plugin has many other uses, for my part I found a few
misplaced .tifs. [replace with jpg].


Thanks too to other Framers, Rebecca Officer & al  who taught me about
graphics on different drives. The interesting thing was the reference
graphics which survived were on the same drive as the root directory of C:
Since I cannot fit my graphics on D and E,  I will continue to use my old
system. And hope I do not have to do another install for some time.
 Rob Shell wrote:
> My questions are
> How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
Use XtraBookUtils:
< http://www.bache.name/sgml.html>
This creates a list of all graphics in the book, you can edit the paths in
that list and then the plugin will convert the paths. 
Harro de Jong
Triview

RE: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[Harro de Jong]

Rob Shell wrote:

 
 My questions are
 How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?

Use XtraBookUtils:
 http://www.bache.name/sgml.html

This creates a list of all graphics in the book, you can edit the paths in that 
list and then the plugin will convert the paths. 

Harro de Jong
Triview
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Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

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Could you save all the chapters in the book as MIF and do a couple of search 
and replace runs? Once to correct ImportObFileDI and once to correct  
ImportObFile.

I used to have a TextPipe script that automated this for me, although in my 
case I was trying to solve the problem of relative pathnames that had become 
absolute.

If that's as clear a concrete, let me know and I'll provide actual help.

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FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[rebecca officer]

Yes, you should only have to do the remapping once per chapter even if the 
graphics files are on a different drive ... if all the graphics are in a single 
folder. If they aren't, you have to do it once per chapter per folder. If 
you've got lots of graphics folders, that's a right pain. If possible, I'd move 
all the graphics into one folder.

If your graphics' source folder changes multiple times in a file, FM will try 
to get you to pick the source folder for each graphic in turn. It's quicker to 
point the first missing graphic to the correct location (say folder1), then 
skip the rest of the missing graphics. FM will fix all references to folder1. 
Then save the file, close it, reopen it, and repeat for folder2 etc.

Cheers
Rebecca

>>> Lise Bible  15/05/13 08:12 >>>
I recall that when I've had Frame files (that had been moved) looking for 
graphics in a certain directory and couldn't find them, if I pointed the first 
one to the correct directory, it found the rest in that same directory.
Now, caveats being that in my case, the frame files and the graphics files are 
both on sub-directories of the same network drive name, and all the graphics 
files are in one folder, so I don't know if this works if it has to navigate to 
the "root" of a different drive, as Fred references below.
-Lise

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Fred Ridder  wrote:


I don't think this will work because Rob already has an H: drive, which is 
where his FM files are. You can't assign two drives (or two partitions) to the 
same letter.

I think his only option is moving the directories to the drive letter that 
FrameMaker is expecting to use. But I'm not sure because I have *never* kept 
files for any FrameMaker project in more than one partition because I know that 
this practice forces FrameMaker to use absolute paths to the referenced files 
rather than relative paths. As much as possible (and it's not always possible 
when using any files that are shared among multiple documents) I have always 
kept all files for any given document in subdirectories within the same branch 
of my directory structure. 

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:21:36 -0400
> From: jowens at magma.ca
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: 
> nightmare alley

> 
> You may be able to change the letters assigned to your drives. See 
> http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/change-drive-letters-windows-7.htm
> 
> 
> On 2013-05-14 14:38, Rob Shell wrote:
> > Dear Framers:
> > I wonder if anyone out there has experienced this.
> > I upgraded windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit.
> > To do this I had to do a clean reinstall on the C: drive which meant
> > reinstalling every single bit of software including TC4. No drives were
> > reassigned or re-named.
> > Everything went well -- and three days later -- I had my new 64 bit machine
> > with 8 gigs of Ram. All this was done to facilitate one big 10,000 page
> > annual pdf project.
> > Finally I opened the book of books.
> > Everything opened well but every single graphic (all referenced, all under
> > 250kb) was now referenced to the H: where the FM texts reside.
> > However, all the graphics files really reside on the G: drive.
> > So now I have 1,000 graphics files which are mis-referenced.
> >
> > My questions are
> > How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
> > How did this happen?
> > Has anybody experienced this?
> > Is there anything else I can do
> > Perhaps if I copy the G: directories to H: the problems will go away.
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > Rob Shell
> > Windows Seven 64 bit
> > TCS 4
> > CS4
> > 4 GB RAM
> > 3 TB hd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[Harro de Jong]

Rob Shell wrote:

> 
> My questions are
> How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?

Use XtraBookUtils:
< http://www.bache.name/sgml.html>

This creates a list of all graphics in the book, you can edit the paths in that 
list and then the plugin will convert the paths. 

Harro de Jong
Triview

FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[subscr...@cuff.ca]

Could you save all the chapters in the book as MIF and do a couple of search 
and replace runs? Once to correct ImportObFileDI and once to correct  
ImportObFile.

I used to have a TextPipe script that automated this for me, although in my 
case I was trying to solve the problem of relative pathnames that had become 
absolute.

If that's as clear a concrete, let me know and I'll provide actual help.

FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[Rob Shell]

Dear Framers:
I wonder if anyone out there has experienced this.
I upgraded windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit.
To do this I had to do a clean reinstall on the C: drive which meant
reinstalling every single bit of software including TC4. No drives were
reassigned or re-named.
Everything went well -- and three days later --  I had my new 64 bit machine
with 8 gigs of Ram.  All this was done to facilitate one big 10,000 page
annual pdf project.
Finally I opened the book of books.
Everything opened well but every single graphic (all referenced, all under
250kb) was now referenced to the H: where the FM texts reside.
However, all the graphics files really reside on the G: drive.
So now I have 1,000 graphics files which are mis-referenced.

My questions are
How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
How did this happen?
Has anybody experienced this?
Is there anything else I can do
Perhaps if I copy the G: directories to H: the problems will go away.
Any ideas?


Rob

Rob Shell
Windows Seven 64 bit
TCS 4
CS4
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd






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Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[Jim Owens]

You may be able to change the letters assigned to your drives. See 
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/change-drive-letters-windows-7.htm



On 2013-05-14 14:38, Rob Shell wrote:

Dear Framers:
I wonder if anyone out there has experienced this.
I upgraded windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit.
To do this I had to do a clean reinstall on the C: drive which meant
reinstalling every single bit of software including TC4. No drives were
reassigned or re-named.
Everything went well -- and three days later --  I had my new 64 bit machine
with 8 gigs of Ram.  All this was done to facilitate one big 10,000 page
annual pdf project.
Finally I opened the book of books.
Everything opened well but every single graphic (all referenced, all under
250kb) was now referenced to the H: where the FM texts reside.
However, all the graphics files really reside on the G: drive.
So now I have 1,000 graphics files which are mis-referenced.

My questions are
How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
How did this happen?
Has anybody experienced this?
Is there anything else I can do
Perhaps if I copy the G: directories to H: the problems will go away.
Any ideas?


Rob

Rob Shell
Windows Seven 64 bit
TCS 4
CS4
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd






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Fm 11: reformatting C: destroys the path of referenced graphics if referenced graphics are on a different drive...

[Rob Shell]

Is this the cause of my nightmare?

When you import by reference with File  Import  File, the path to the text
or graphic can be either absolute or relative. A relative path begins at a
current folder or one folder up the hierarchy and specifies the file's
location from there. An absolute path begins at the root of the file system
(the topmost folder) and fully specifies the file's location from there.
Following are two examples of absolute paths.

d:\Graphics\Mountain.gif
\\DocServer\Graphics\Mountain.gif
FrameMaker stores relative paths whenever possible so that it can find an
imported file even when you move both the document and the source file-as
long as you keep the files in the same relative locations. If you save the
document in a different folder, FrameMaker adjusts the paths of the imported
files accordingly. However, if the path to the imported file traverses the
root (the topmost folder) of the file system, FrameMaker uses absolute paths
that begins at the root.

To ensure that FrameMaker uses relative paths, make sure that it does not
have to traverse the root to locate the file.

Rob



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RE: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[Fred Ridder]

I don't think this will work because Rob already has an H: drive, which is 
where his FM files are. You can't assign two drives (or two partitions) to the 
same letter.

I think his only option is moving the directories to the drive letter that 
FrameMaker is expecting to use. But I'm not sure because I have *never* kept 
files for any FrameMaker project in more than one partition because I know that 
this practice forces FrameMaker to use absolute paths to the referenced files 
rather than relative paths. As much as possible (and it's not always possible 
when using any files that are shared among multiple documents) I have always 
kept all files for any given document in subdirectories within the same branch 
of my directory structure. 

-Fred Ridder

 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:21:36 -0400
 From: jow...@magma.ca
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive:   
 nightmare alley
 
 You may be able to change the letters assigned to your drives. See 
 http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/change-drive-letters-windows-7.htm
 
 
 On 2013-05-14 14:38, Rob Shell wrote:
  Dear Framers:
  I wonder if anyone out there has experienced this.
  I upgraded windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit.
  To do this I had to do a clean reinstall on the C: drive which meant
  reinstalling every single bit of software including TC4. No drives were
  reassigned or re-named.
  Everything went well -- and three days later --  I had my new 64 bit machine
  with 8 gigs of Ram.  All this was done to facilitate one big 10,000 page
  annual pdf project.
  Finally I opened the book of books.
  Everything opened well but every single graphic (all referenced, all under
  250kb) was now referenced to the H: where the FM texts reside.
  However, all the graphics files really reside on the G: drive.
  So now I have 1,000 graphics files which are mis-referenced.
 
  My questions are
  How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
  How did this happen?
  Has anybody experienced this?
  Is there anything else I can do
  Perhaps if I copy the G: directories to H: the problems will go away.
  Any ideas?
 
 
  Rob
 
  Rob Shell
  Windows Seven 64 bit
  TCS 4
  CS4
  4 GB RAM
  3 TB hd
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[Lise Bible]

I recall that when I've had Frame files (that had been moved) looking for
graphics in a certain directory and couldn't find them, if I pointed the
first one to the correct directory, it found the rest in that same
directory.
Now, caveats being that in my case, the frame files and the graphics files
are both on sub-directories of the same network drive name, and all the
graphics files are in one folder, so I don't know if this works if it has
to navigate to the root of a different drive, as Fred references below.
-Lise

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I don't think this will work because Rob already has an H: drive, which is
 where his FM files are. You can't assign two drives (or two partitions) to
 the same letter.

 I think his only option is moving the directories to the drive letter that
 FrameMaker is expecting to use. But I'm not sure because I have *never*
 kept files for any FrameMaker project in more than one partition because I
 know that this practice forces FrameMaker to use absolute paths to the
 referenced files rather than relative paths. As much as possible (and it's
 not always possible when using any files that are shared among multiple
 documents) I have always kept all files for any given document in
 subdirectories within the same branch of my directory structure.

 -Fred Ridder

  Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:21:36 -0400
  From: jow...@magma.ca
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong
 drive: nightmare alley

 
  You may be able to change the letters assigned to your drives. See
 
 http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/change-drive-letters-windows-7.htm
 
 
  On 2013-05-14 14:38, Rob Shell wrote:
   Dear Framers:
   I wonder if anyone out there has experienced this.
   I upgraded windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit.
   To do this I had to do a clean reinstall on the C: drive which meant
   reinstalling every single bit of software including TC4. No drives were
   reassigned or re-named.
   Everything went well -- and three days later -- I had my new 64 bit
 machine
   with 8 gigs of Ram. All this was done to facilitate one big 10,000 page
   annual pdf project.
   Finally I opened the book of books.
   Everything opened well but every single graphic (all referenced, all
 under
   250kb) was now referenced to the H: where the FM texts reside.
   However, all the graphics files really reside on the G: drive.
   So now I have 1,000 graphics files which are mis-referenced.
  
   My questions are
   How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
   How did this happen?
   Has anybody experienced this?
   Is there anything else I can do
   Perhaps if I copy the G: directories to H: the problems will go away.
   Any ideas?
  
  
   Rob
  
   Rob Shell
   Windows Seven 64 bit
   TCS 4
   CS4
   4 GB RAM
   3 TB hd
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[Jim Owens]

On 2013-05-14 15:36, Fred Ridder wrote:
I don't think this will work because Rob already has an H: drive, 
which is where his FM files are. You can't assign two drives (or two 
partitions) to the same letter.




I thought he might be able to rename the current H drive to something 
else, and then rename the G drive to H. But mabye something on the 
system cares whether the Frame files are on H -- I'm not sure.


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Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[rebecca officer]

Yes, you should only have to do the remapping once per chapter even if the 
graphics files are on a different drive ... if all the graphics are in a single 
folder. If they aren't, you have to do it once per chapter per folder. If 
you've got lots of graphics folders, that's a right pain. If possible, I'd move 
all the graphics into one folder.
 
If your graphics' source folder changes multiple times in a file, FM will try 
to get you to pick the source folder for each graphic in turn. It's quicker to 
point the first missing graphic to the correct location (say folder1), then 
skip the rest of the missing graphics. FM will fix all references to folder1. 
Then save the file, close it, reopen it, and repeat for folder2 etc.
 
Cheers
Rebecca

 Lise Bible rentagoodb...@gmail.com 15/05/13 08:12 
I recall that when I've had Frame files (that had been moved) looking for 
graphics in a certain directory and couldn't find them, if I pointed the first 
one to the correct directory, it found the rest in that same directory.
Now, caveats being that in my case, the frame files and the graphics files are 
both on sub-directories of the same network drive name, and all the graphics 
files are in one folder, so I don't know if this works if it has to navigate to 
the root of a different drive, as Fred references below.
-Lise

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:


I don't think this will work because Rob already has an H: drive, which is 
where his FM files are. You can't assign two drives (or two partitions) to the 
same letter.

I think his only option is moving the directories to the drive letter that 
FrameMaker is expecting to use. But I'm not sure because I have *never* kept 
files for any FrameMaker project in more than one partition because I know that 
this practice forces FrameMaker to use absolute paths to the referenced files 
rather than relative paths. As much as possible (and it's not always possible 
when using any files that are shared among multiple documents) I have always 
kept all files for any given document in subdirectories within the same branch 
of my directory structure. 

-Fred Ridder

 Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:21:36 -0400
 From: jow...@magma.ca
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: 
 nightmare alley

 
 You may be able to change the letters assigned to your drives. See 
 http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/change-drive-letters-windows-7.htm
 
 
 On 2013-05-14 14:38, Rob Shell wrote:
  Dear Framers:
  I wonder if anyone out there has experienced this.
  I upgraded windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit.
  To do this I had to do a clean reinstall on the C: drive which meant
  reinstalling every single bit of software including TC4. No drives were
  reassigned or re-named.
  Everything went well -- and three days later -- I had my new 64 bit machine
  with 8 gigs of Ram. All this was done to facilitate one big 10,000 page
  annual pdf project.
  Finally I opened the book of books.
  Everything opened well but every single graphic (all referenced, all under
  250kb) was now referenced to the H: where the FM texts reside.
  However, all the graphics files really reside on the G: drive.
  So now I have 1,000 graphics files which are mis-referenced.
 
  My questions are
  How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
  How did this happen?
  Has anybody experienced this?
  Is there anything else I can do
  Perhaps if I copy the G: directories to H: the problems will go away.
  Any ideas?
 
 
  Rob
 
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  TCS 4
  CS4
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[Rob Shell]

Dear Framers:
I wonder if anyone out there has experienced this.
I upgraded windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit.
To do this I had to do a clean reinstall on the C: drive which meant
reinstalling every single bit of software including TC4. No drives were
reassigned or re-named.
Everything went well -- and three days later --  I had my new 64 bit machine
with 8 gigs of Ram.  All this was done to facilitate one big 10,000 page
annual pdf project.
Finally I opened the book of books.
Everything opened well but every single graphic (all referenced, all under
250kb) was now referenced to the H: where the FM texts reside.
However, all the graphics files really reside on the G: drive.
So now I have 1,000 graphics files which are mis-referenced.

My questions are
How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
How did this happen?
Has anybody experienced this?
Is there anything else I can do
Perhaps if I copy the G: directories to H: the problems will go away.
Any ideas?


Rob

Rob Shell
Windows Seven 64 bit
TCS 4
CS4
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd

FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[Jim Owens]

You may be able to change the letters assigned to your drives. See 
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/change-drive-letters-windows-7.htm


On 2013-05-14 14:38, Rob Shell wrote:
> Dear Framers:
> I wonder if anyone out there has experienced this.
> I upgraded windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit.
> To do this I had to do a clean reinstall on the C: drive which meant
> reinstalling every single bit of software including TC4. No drives were
> reassigned or re-named.
> Everything went well -- and three days later --  I had my new 64 bit machine
> with 8 gigs of Ram.  All this was done to facilitate one big 10,000 page
> annual pdf project.
> Finally I opened the book of books.
> Everything opened well but every single graphic (all referenced, all under
> 250kb) was now referenced to the H: where the FM texts reside.
> However, all the graphics files really reside on the G: drive.
> So now I have 1,000 graphics files which are mis-referenced.
>
> My questions are
> How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
> How did this happen?
> Has anybody experienced this?
> Is there anything else I can do
> Perhaps if I copy the G: directories to H: the problems will go away.
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Rob
>
> Rob Shell
> Windows Seven 64 bit
> TCS 4
> CS4
> 4 GB RAM
> 3 TB hd
>
>
>
>
>
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Fm 11: reformatting C: destroys the path of referenced graphics if referenced graphics are on a different drive...

[Rob Shell]

Is this the cause of my nightmare?

When you import by reference with File > Import > File, the path to the text
or graphic can be either absolute or relative. A relative path begins at a
current folder or one folder up the hierarchy and specifies the file's
location from there. An absolute path begins at the root of the file system
(the topmost folder) and fully specifies the file's location from there.
Following are two examples of absolute paths.

d:\Graphics\Mountain.gif
\\DocServer\Graphics\Mountain.gif
FrameMaker stores relative paths whenever possible so that it can find an
imported file even when you move both the document and the source file-as
long as you keep the files in the same relative locations. If you save the
document in a different folder, FrameMaker adjusts the paths of the imported
files accordingly. However, if the path to the imported file traverses the
root (the topmost folder) of the file system, FrameMaker uses absolute paths
that begins at the root.

To ensure that FrameMaker uses relative paths, make sure that it does not
have to traverse the root to locate the file.

Rob

FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[Fred Ridder]

I don't think this will work because Rob already has an H: drive, which is 
where his FM files are. You can't assign two drives (or two partitions) to the 
same letter.

I think his only option is moving the directories to the drive letter that 
FrameMaker is expecting to use. But I'm not sure because I have *never* kept 
files for any FrameMaker project in more than one partition because I know that 
this practice forces FrameMaker to use absolute paths to the referenced files 
rather than relative paths. As much as possible (and it's not always possible 
when using any files that are shared among multiple documents) I have always 
kept all files for any given document in subdirectories within the same branch 
of my directory structure. 

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:21:36 -0400
> From: jowens at magma.ca
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive:   
> nightmare alley
> 
> You may be able to change the letters assigned to your drives. See 
> http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/change-drive-letters-windows-7.htm
> 
> 
> On 2013-05-14 14:38, Rob Shell wrote:
> > Dear Framers:
> > I wonder if anyone out there has experienced this.
> > I upgraded windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit.
> > To do this I had to do a clean reinstall on the C: drive which meant
> > reinstalling every single bit of software including TC4. No drives were
> > reassigned or re-named.
> > Everything went well -- and three days later --  I had my new 64 bit machine
> > with 8 gigs of Ram.  All this was done to facilitate one big 10,000 page
> > annual pdf project.
> > Finally I opened the book of books.
> > Everything opened well but every single graphic (all referenced, all under
> > 250kb) was now referenced to the H: where the FM texts reside.
> > However, all the graphics files really reside on the G: drive.
> > So now I have 1,000 graphics files which are mis-referenced.
> >
> > My questions are
> > How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
> > How did this happen?
> > Has anybody experienced this?
> > Is there anything else I can do
> > Perhaps if I copy the G: directories to H: the problems will go away.
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > Rob Shell
> > Windows Seven 64 bit
> > TCS 4
> > CS4
> > 4 GB RAM
> > 3 TB hd
> >
> >
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FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong drive: nightmare alley

[Lise Bible]

I recall that when I've had Frame files (that had been moved) looking for
graphics in a certain directory and couldn't find them, if I pointed the
first one to the correct directory, it found the rest in that same
directory.
Now, caveats being that in my case, the frame files and the graphics files
are both on sub-directories of the same network drive name, and all the
graphics files are in one folder, so I don't know if this works if it has
to navigate to the "root" of a different drive, as Fred references below.
-Lise

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Fred Ridder  wrote:

> I don't think this will work because Rob already has an H: drive, which is
> where his FM files are. You can't assign two drives (or two partitions) to
> the same letter.
>
> I think his only option is moving the directories to the drive letter that
> FrameMaker is expecting to use. But I'm not sure because I have *never*
> kept files for any FrameMaker project in more than one partition because I
> know that this practice forces FrameMaker to use absolute paths to the
> referenced files rather than relative paths. As much as possible (and it's
> not always possible when using any files that are shared among multiple
> documents) I have always kept all files for any given document in
> subdirectories within the same branch of my directory structure.
>
> -Fred Ridder
>
> > Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 15:21:36 -0400
> > From: jowens at magma.ca
> > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: FrameMaker 11 and referenced graphics pointing to wrong
> drive: nightmare alley
>
> >
> > You may be able to change the letters assigned to your drives. See
> >
> http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows7/ht/change-drive-letters-windows-7.htm
> >
> >
> > On 2013-05-14 14:38, Rob Shell wrote:
> > > Dear Framers:
> > > I wonder if anyone out there has experienced this.
> > > I upgraded windows 7 32 bit to 64 bit.
> > > To do this I had to do a clean reinstall on the C: drive which meant
> > > reinstalling every single bit of software including TC4. No drives were
> > > reassigned or re-named.
> > > Everything went well -- and three days later -- I had my new 64 bit
> machine
> > > with 8 gigs of Ram. All this was done to facilitate one big 10,000 page
> > > annual pdf project.
> > > Finally I opened the book of books.
> > > Everything opened well but every single graphic (all referenced, all
> under
> > > 250kb) was now referenced to the H: where the FM texts reside.
> > > However, all the graphics files really reside on the G: drive.
> > > So now I have 1,000 graphics files which are mis-referenced.
> > >
> > > My questions are
> > > How can I restore the proper drive letter in object properties?
> > > How did this happen?
> > > Has anybody experienced this?
> > > Is there anything else I can do
> > > Perhaps if I copy the G: directories to H: the problems will go away.
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > > Rob Shell
> > > Windows Seven 64 bit
> > > TCS 4
> > > CS4
> > > 4 GB RAM
> > > 3 TB hd
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[Jim Owens]

On 2013-05-14 15:36, Fred Ridder wrote:
> I don't think this will work because Rob already has an H: drive, 
> which is where his FM files are. You can't assign two drives (or two 
> partitions) to the same letter.
>

I thought he might be able to rename the current H drive to something 
else, and then rename the G drive to H. But mabye something on the 
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wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

[Ben Hechter]

Hi,

Wondering if folks have thoughts on how adding the date to a document directory 
name each time a draft is archived could impact the pathname of the referenced 
graphics.

Seems like I've had some cases where the referenced graphics pointers get lost 
because the folder name has changed, and other cases where the referenced 
graphics pointers remain accurate, or am I imagining this?

For project reasons, the archived copy needs to open without errors, so 
re-homing the graphics directory after the fact is not an option.

Thanks for any wisdom from the collective guru!

Ben

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RE: wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

[David Spreadbury]

Ben,
If you change the directory name you have changed the relative path to the
graphics.

The path must stay the same, relative to the source files.

One solution would be to store the graphics in the same tree as the source
files, i.e.,

BookFolder
--|SourceFiles
--|Graphics

Then when the source files look for the graphics, they are at the same
relative level but in a different folder. When you archive, change the date
of the BookFolder, not the SourceFile or Graphics folders.


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Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:54 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

Hi,

Wondering if folks have thoughts on how adding the date to a document
directory name each time a draft is archived could impact the pathname of
the referenced graphics.

Seems like I've had some cases where the referenced graphics pointers get
lost because the folder name has changed, and other cases where the
referenced graphics pointers remain accurate, or am I imagining this?

For project reasons, the archived copy needs to open without errors, so
re-homing the graphics directory after the fact is not an option.

Thanks for any wisdom from the collective guru!

Ben

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Re: wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

[Art Campbell]

If you make an entire copy of the project at the same directory level, you
should be OK because that doesn't change the relative paths.

 Base Directory
Dec.Jan.   Feb.

So making a March copy at this level would work, because you're rolling the
directory forward in relation to the base directory.

But going from
Base Directory
Dec.Jan.   Feb.

to
   Base DirectoryBackup
Directory
 Feb.
Dec.Jan.

will break things.

Best/easiest solution is to use Bruce Foster's Archive plug-in to create
entire self-contained archives of each book. You can move those folders
anywhere because the links have been modified to work in the Archive folder.


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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Ben Hechter bhech...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Wondering if folks have thoughts on how adding the date to a document
 directory name each time a draft is archived could impact the pathname of
 the referenced graphics.

 Seems like I've had some cases where the referenced graphics pointers get
 lost because the folder name has changed, and other cases where the
 referenced graphics pointers remain accurate, or am I imagining this?

 For project reasons, the archived copy needs to open without errors, so
 re-homing the graphics directory after the fact is not an option.

 Thanks for any wisdom from the collective guru!

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wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

[Ben Hechter]

Hi,

Wondering if folks have thoughts on how adding the date to a document directory 
name each time a draft is archived could impact the pathname of the referenced 
graphics.

Seems like I've had some cases where the referenced graphics pointers get lost 
because the folder name has changed, and other cases where the referenced 
graphics pointers remain accurate, or am I imagining this?

For project reasons, the archived copy needs to open without errors, so 
re-homing the graphics directory after the fact is not an option.

Thanks for any wisdom from the collective guru!

Ben

Ben Hechter 
bhechter at objectives.ca
www.semitake.com

wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

[David Spreadbury]

Ben,
If you change the directory name you have changed the relative path to the
graphics.

The path must stay the same, relative to the source files.

One solution would be to store the graphics in the same tree as the source
files, i.e.,

BookFolder
--|SourceFiles
--|Graphics

Then when the source files look for the graphics, they are at the same
relative level but in a different folder. When you archive, change the date
of the BookFolder, not the SourceFile or Graphics folders.


-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ben Hechter
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:54 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

Hi,

Wondering if folks have thoughts on how adding the date to a document
directory name each time a draft is archived could impact the pathname of
the referenced graphics.

Seems like I've had some cases where the referenced graphics pointers get
lost because the folder name has changed, and other cases where the
referenced graphics pointers remain accurate, or am I imagining this?

For project reasons, the archived copy needs to open without errors, so
re-homing the graphics directory after the fact is not an option.

Thanks for any wisdom from the collective guru!

Ben

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wrestling with referenced graphics pointers

[Art Campbell]

If you make an entire copy of the project at the same directory level, you
should be OK because that doesn't change the relative paths.

 Base Directory
Dec.Jan.   Feb.

So making a March copy at this level would work, because you're rolling the
directory forward in relation to the base directory.

But going from
Base Directory
Dec.Jan.   Feb.

to
   Base DirectoryBackup
Directory
 Feb.
Dec.Jan.

will break things.

Best/easiest solution is to use Bruce Foster's Archive plug-in to create
entire self-contained archives of each book. You can move those folders
anywhere because the links have been modified to work in the Archive folder.


Art Campbell
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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Ben Hechter  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Wondering if folks have thoughts on how adding the date to a document
> directory name each time a draft is archived could impact the pathname of
> the referenced graphics.
>
> Seems like I've had some cases where the referenced graphics pointers get
> lost because the folder name has changed, and other cases where the
> referenced graphics pointers remain accurate, or am I imagining this?
>
> For project reasons, the archived copy needs to open without errors, so
> re-homing the graphics directory after the fact is not an option.
>
> Thanks for any wisdom from the collective guru!
>
> Ben
>
> Ben Hechter
> bhechter at objectives.ca
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FrameMaker Index of Referenced Graphics

[Hales-Crotchett, Nicole]

Hi,

 

Back in January, Mr. Combs offered the following great solution to creating a 
list of referenced graphics in a document. 

 

Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:34:14 -0700

From: Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: RE: List of linked graphic file locations

 

Nope, if they're really _linked_ (imported by reference), it's a piece of cake. 
From the book window, with the last file in the book selected, select Add  
Index of  References. In the Set Up dialog box, move Imported Graphics to the 
Include References box. Click Add. Voila! At the end of your book, FM adds an 
alphabetical index of referenced graphics. Each entry shows the complete path 
and file name. 

 

HTH!

Richard

 

I was wondering if anyone has a QD solution that would create not an 
alphabetical list, but a list in order by page number. Here’s my code from the 
Reference Pages:

 

1, 2–3

 

$symbols$numerics$alphabetics

-‑–—

Level1IOR

openObjectId $relfilename:$ObjectType $ObjectId

$autorange$chapnum‑$pagenum

 

I’ve been tinkering around with this all morning and can’t figure out how to 
bend it to my will. Any suggestions?

 

FrameMaker 7.1 unstructured, Windoze XP Pro.

 

Thanks in advance,

Nicole 

 

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RE: FrameMaker Index of Referenced Graphics

[Combs, Richard]

Hales-Crotchett, Nicole wrote:
 
 Back in January, Mr. Combs offered the following great 
 solution to creating a list of referenced graphics in a document. 
 
snip  
 
 I was wondering if anyone has a QD solution that would 
 create not an alphabetical list, but a list in order by page 
 number. Here's my code from the Reference Pages:
 
snip 
 
 I've been tinkering around with this all morning and can't 
 figure out how to bend it to my will. Any suggestions?

Step away from that reference page! :-)

FM supports two broad categories of generated lists: an _Index_ is in
alphabetical order; a _List_ is in order of occurrence (that is, page
number order). 

So, you just need to repeat my previous instructions, but this time
select Add  List of  References. 

HTH!
Richard


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RE: FrameMaker Index of Referenced Graphics

[Hales-Crotchett, Nicole]

Thanks to all who offered suggestions on  offline-problem solved with a
list of references rather than index.

 

Ciao!

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FrameMaker Index of Referenced Graphics

[Hales-Crotchett, Nicole]

Hi,



Back in January, Mr. Combs offered the following great solution to creating a 
list of referenced graphics in a document. 



Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:34:14 -0700

From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.co...@polycom.com>

Subject: RE: List of linked graphic file locations



Nope, if they're really _linked_ (imported by reference), it's a piece of cake. 
From the book window, with the last file in the book selected, select Add > 
Index of > References. In the Set Up dialog box, move Imported Graphics to the 
Include References box. Click Add. Voila! At the end of your book, FM adds an 
alphabetical index of referenced graphics. Each entry shows the complete path 
and file name. 



HTH!

Richard



I was wondering if anyone has a Q solution that would create not an 
alphabetical list, but a list in order by page number. Here?s my code from the 
Reference Pages:



1, 2?3



<$symbols><$numerics><$alphabetics>

-???

Level1IOR

openObjectId <$relfilename>:<$ObjectType> <$ObjectId>

<$autorange><$chapnum>?<$pagenum>



I?ve been tinkering around with this all morning and can?t figure out how to 
bend it to my will. Any suggestions?



FrameMaker 7.1 unstructured, Windoze XP Pro.



Thanks in advance,

Nicole 

FrameMaker Index of Referenced Graphics

[Combs, Richard]

Hales-Crotchett, Nicole wrote:

> Back in January, Mr. Combs offered the following great 
> solution to creating a list of referenced graphics in a document. 
> 
  
> 
> I was wondering if anyone has a Q solution that would 
> create not an alphabetical list, but a list in order by page 
> number. Here's my code from the Reference Pages:
> 
 
> 
> I've been tinkering around with this all morning and can't 
> figure out how to bend it to my will. Any suggestions?

Step away from that reference page! :-)

FM supports two broad categories of generated lists: an _Index_ is in
alphabetical order; a _List_ is in order of occurrence (that is, page
number order). 

So, you just need to repeat my previous instructions, but this time
select Add > List of > References. 

HTH!
Richard


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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
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FrameMaker Index of Referenced Graphics

[Hales-Crotchett, Nicole]

Thanks to all who offered suggestions on & offline-problem solved with a
list of references rather than index.



Ciao!

Nicole

referenced graphics

[obai...@comcast.net]

After some more testing, I see that I can make the word file using mif2go sans 
images, just placeholders, then in the new word doc do Edit>Links, then pick 
the graphics links, then click Update, and they show up as referenced images.

Whew!  Glad I don't have to use word often.

Thanks, jeremy.  

Paul

 -- Original message --
From: obai...@comcast.net
> Does that mean that, if I pick Do not Write Equations, and hide the BMPs that 
> [GraphFiles] tif=bmp points to, that I will get empty frames where the images 
> would be?
> 
> If after generation I then put the BMPs in the same folder as the word file, 
> and 
> re-open the word file, will they appear as linked images?
> 
> Paul
> 
>  -- Original message --
> From: "Jeremy H. Griffith" 
> > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:28:10 +, obair81 at comcast.net 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >Does anyone know if there is a way to make mif2go 
> > >produce an rtf file that has linked graphics, rather 
> > >than embedded graphics?  This would be from a frame 
> > >file with referenced graphics.
> > 
> > It's possible, but not advisable.  The trouble is that
> > Word does not permit scaling of such graphics in RTF;
> > for the graphic to appear at the correct size, it must 
> > be in an embedded WMF in the RTF.
> > 
> > That said, if you simply make sure that Mif2Go cannot
> > find (or generate) the referenced graphic in WMF or BMP 
> > form, it will be unable to embed, and you will get a 
> > reference instead.  This is *not* recommended, but it 
> > does work.
> > 
> > -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
> > http://www.omsys.com/
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Re: referenced graphics

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:28:10 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a way to make mif2go 
produce an rtf file that has linked graphics, rather 
than embedded graphics?  This would be from a frame 
file with referenced graphics.

It's possible, but not advisable.  The trouble is that
Word does not permit scaling of such graphics in RTF;
for the graphic to appear at the correct size, it must 
be in an embedded WMF in the RTF.

That said, if you simply make sure that Mif2Go cannot
find (or generate) the referenced graphic in WMF or BMP 
form, it will be unable to embed, and you will get a 
reference instead.  This is *not* recommended, but it 
does work.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/
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referenced graphics

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Does anyone know if there is a way to make mif2go produce an rtf file that has 
linked graphics, rather than embedded graphics?  This would be from a frame 
file with referenced graphics.

I did not see anything about this in the mif2go help file.

Thanks.

Paul

referenced graphics

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:28:10 +, obair81 at comcast.net 
wrote:

>Does anyone know if there is a way to make mif2go 
>produce an rtf file that has linked graphics, rather 
>than embedded graphics?  This would be from a frame 
>file with referenced graphics.

It's possible, but not advisable.  The trouble is that
Word does not permit scaling of such graphics in RTF;
for the graphic to appear at the correct size, it must 
be in an embedded WMF in the RTF.

That said, if you simply make sure that Mif2Go cannot
find (or generate) the referenced graphic in WMF or BMP 
form, it will be unable to embed, and you will get a 
reference instead.  This is *not* recommended, but it 
does work.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

referenced graphics

[obai...@comcast.net]

Does that mean that, if I pick Do not Write Equations, and hide the BMPs that 
[GraphFiles] tif=bmp points to, that I will get empty frames where the images 
would be?

If after generation I then put the BMPs in the same folder as the word file, 
and re-open the word file, will they appear as linked images?

Paul

 -- Original message --
From: "Jeremy H. Griffith" <jer...@omsys.com>
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:28:10 +, obair81 at comcast.net 
> wrote:
> 
> >Does anyone know if there is a way to make mif2go 
> >produce an rtf file that has linked graphics, rather 
> >than embedded graphics?  This would be from a frame 
> >file with referenced graphics.
> 
> It's possible, but not advisable.  The trouble is that
> Word does not permit scaling of such graphics in RTF;
> for the graphic to appear at the correct size, it must 
> be in an embedded WMF in the RTF.
> 
> That said, if you simply make sure that Mif2Go cannot
> find (or generate) the referenced graphic in WMF or BMP 
> form, it will be unable to embed, and you will get a 
> reference instead.  This is *not* recommended, but it 
> does work.
> 
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
> http://www.omsys.com/
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