Re: migrating from thunderbird to mutt?

2004-12-25 Thread Matthias Buelow
Joshua Lokken wrote:
Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd mailing
lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting?
No.  You have to setup procmail (or a similar program) to do that for you.
Wrong.  Mutt'll do it just fine.
Just wondering; have you ever used or seen Mutt?
Of course. I've used it since elm came out of fashion, about 8 years ago 
or so, until about 1-2 years ago, when I switched to Mozilla because I'm 
dealing with a multitude of mail folders on multiple imap servers today.

How would this filtering work inside mutt? Apparently, it's something 
non-obvious. I've never seen anything like that while using mutt, and 
always used procmail back then.

mkb.
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Problems with switch view and FreeBSD

2004-12-25 Thread Ricardo Pichler
Hi Folks,
I'll try explain my problem!

I've various FreeBSD box running, they are working without keyboard and when
I try connect the keyboard, the system don't respond but the system be
working. In other case, I've a switch data view and if I boot a machine
with FreeBSD and the switch don't be pointed in the machine, when a change
the switch to a machine this doens't work.

Can anybody help me?

Sorry my bad english.

Thanks in advance,
Ricardo Pichler


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Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2004-12-25 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream:
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to
drive the car.
One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently
claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built.
One should not buy a car without at least knowing the general specs of 
the engine.

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RE: Problems with switch view and FreeBSD

2004-12-25 Thread Subhro



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Pichler
 Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 19:05
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Problems with switch view and FreeBSD

snip
 I've various FreeBSD box running, they are working without keyboard and
 when
 I try connect the keyboard, the system don't respond but the system be
 working. 
snip

The reason why it is not working for you is, the BIOS of your mother board
does not enable the Keyboard PS2 port till it sees the keyboard. Turn off
the autodetection of keyboard from the BIOs and it will work fine.

Regards
S.

Indian Institute of Information Technology
Subhro Sankha Kar
Block AQ-13/1, Sector V
Salt Lake City
PIN 700091
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MAJOR DISFUNCTION? Compute reboots instead of booting!

2004-12-25 Thread Fafa Diliha Romanova

   Dear all of you,


   My computer (HP Compaq DC7100) refuses to boot to FreeBSD. It enters
   the= MBR, I then select FreeBSD

   in the bootloader and the computer reboots! What kind of behavior is
   thi= s, and why won't it give FreeBSD a chance?


   I'm aware that some UNIX systems need a patch to work on this type of
   co= mputer:

   [1]http://www5.   
itrc.hp.com/service/patch/wrap.do?pageKey=patch.jsp.archiveJumpadmi
   t= =552267591+1103976356811+28353475


   But in my case, what do I need to do? Disabling ACPI in the BIOS
   doesn't= work.

   I'm informed (when I reinsert my S-ATA HD) that if I'm running UNIX, I
   s= hould enable it in the BIOS.

   But guess what? There are no such options. Believe me I've looked.


   Does anybody know what's going on?


   Thanks.

   Dr. Galvin Hobbes @ FTEG


   -- 

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MAJOR DISFUNCTION! Computer reboots instead of booting FreeBSD!

2004-12-25 Thread Fafa Diliha Romanova

   Dear all of you,


   My computer (HP Compaq DC7100) refuses to boot to FreeBSD. It enters
   the= MBR, I then select FreeBSD

   in the bootloader and the computer reboots! What kind of behavior is
   thi= s, and why won't it give FreeBSD a chance?


   I'm aware that some UNIX systems need a patch to work on this type of
   co= mputer:

   [1]http://www5.   
itrc.hp.com/service/patch/wrap.do?pageKey=patch.jsp.archiveJumpadmi
   t= =552267591+1103976356811+28353475


   But in my case, what do I need to do? Disabling ACPI in the BIOS
   doesn't= work.

   I'm informed (when I reinsert my S-ATA HD) that if I'm running UNIX, I
   s= hould enable it in the BIOS.

   But guess what? There are no such options. Believe me I've looked.


   Does anybody know what's going on?


   Thanks.

   Dr. Galvin Hobbes @ FTEG
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Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-25 Thread Peter Schuller
 Right now portmanager is upgrading kdelibs and I'm still using it. The 
 only problem that might occur is between the deinstall/reinstall steps
 I'll be missing the libraries for about a minute, when this happens I 
 just wait untill its finished reinstalling then continue.  
 Here is a recap of what happens:
...
 I've been testing this for a year now and haven't had a problem yet
 using a program while it is being updated.

That does indeed sound perfectly painless. I failed to remember that there
is another factor playing into my annoyance with pkg_chk - namely that
it seems to remove dependent packages in chunks prior to re-installing
them. So the end-result is that the system is completely missing several
packages for extended periods of time while a bunch of other packages are
being compiled.

I don't know why this is done or exactly under what circumstances. But
indeed, the way portmanager behaves as you described above sounds
a lot better.

 Portupgrade has one serious flaw in my opinion and that is running 
 something like pkgdb -F damages the port installation database as far 
 as I'm concerned.  It causes the data base to say ports were built with 
 dependency ports that they were  never really built with.  Portmanager 
 only addresses that one issue and for the forseeable future that is 
 where all the focus will be, only on correctly updating ports.

Ok. That sounds good. To be honest I have never understood why the dependencies
seem to randombly break, requiring a lot of fiddling with pkgdb.

I tried portmanager in the past but missed the fact of 'proper' upgrading of
entire dependency chains. I will have another go now though. Thanks for
the clarifications!

-- 
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Re: Problems with switch view and FreeBSD

2004-12-25 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 03:23:15PM +0530, Subhro typed:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Pichler
  Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 19:05
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Problems with switch view and FreeBSD
 
 snip
  I've various FreeBSD box running, they are working without keyboard and
  when
  I try connect the keyboard, the system don't respond but the system be
  working. 
 snip
 
 The reason why it is not working for you is, the BIOS of your mother board
 does not enable the Keyboard PS2 port till it sees the keyboard. Turn off
 the autodetection of keyboard from the BIOs and it will work fine.

Wrong. He has to edit /boot/device.hints and replace

hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x1

by

hint.atkbd.0.flags=0

Ruben

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Re: Dell CERC SATA 2S question -- software RAID instead?

2004-12-25 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Jonathan Reeder --
 Since the SATA RAID controller in the Dell PE SC420 isn't supported yet,
 is there anything I can do with atacontrol to run my two drives as a
 software RAID instead of relying on the controller?

 I've never used SATA before, so any advice anyone can offer is greatly
 appreciated.

If you're using FreeBSD 5.3 than you should take a look at man gmirror. 
This could be what you want. I am using it w/o any problems so far...

HTH! Greetings, Matthias

-- 
And remember not to act afraid.  Animals can smell fear.  And they
don't like it.

  -- Homer Simpson
 The Call of the Simpsons
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Re: Vinum bootable RAID-1 setup help

2004-12-25 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Faisal Ali --
 I really tried my best to follow the FreeBSD handbook documentation to
 setup bootable RAID-1 volume, I just can't seem to understand Section
 17.9.2, Iam working with 5.3 i386 Release.

Since I had problems with vinum under 5.3 as well I successfully tried 
gmirror (man gmirror) and had no problems with it so far. You can create 
a bootable RAID1 array with it ...

HTH! Greetings, Matthias

-- 
That's weird.  It's like something out of that twilighty show about
that zone.

  -- Homer Simpson
 Treehouse of Horror VI
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Freebsd non-profit stat OT

2004-12-25 Thread Mark
I was looking at the bsd site and noticed the Quarterly Report was out, and in 
this report
it states we are in danger of losing the non-profit status. Please read this 
report.

http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/20041221-newsletter.shtml

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Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2004-12-25 Thread Nikolas Britton
Colin J. Raven wrote:
On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream:
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to
drive the car.

One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently
claiming to have no interest in how enginges are built.

One should not buy a car without at least knowing the general specs of 
the engine.

One should not buy a car without at least looking under the hood, 
kicking the tires, and taking it for a test drive.

Merry Christmas,
   Nikolas
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[no subject]

2004-12-25 Thread ten-nsk
Hello.

There is one question, when you planning add hardware
support Allied Telesyn AT2700 series network adapters ?

Thanks.

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Re: Freebsd non-profit stat OT

2004-12-25 Thread Nikolas Britton
Mark wrote:
I was looking at the bsd site and noticed the Quarterly Report was out, and in 
this report
it states we are in danger of losing the non-profit status. Please read this 
report.
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/20041221-newsletter.shtml
 

Yes, I saw that yesterday, they need to rise $30,400, the max for any 
single person or entity is $8000 to meet the required 1/3rd rule. My 
only question is why they waited till now to raise 30 grand, someone 
dropped the ball on this one. Sent them your money and do it fast (umm 
like today) as the deadline is 6 day's away:

The FreeBSD Foundation accepts donations via check:
  The FreeBSD Foundation
  7321 Brockway Dr.
  Boulder, CO 80303
 or PayPal:
  http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donating.shtml
 Checks must be postmarked by December 31st. to count toward the
 advanced ruling period.
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glxgears

2004-12-25 Thread Peter Harmsen
I have a FreeBSD box on a Elitegroup K7S5A mobo with a Asus TI4200 AGP 8x 
graphics card and AMD 512 MB sdram XP2000+ CPU.I get 3600 FPS with glxgears 
after i recompiled the kernel without agp and tweaked the Nvidia driver source 
a little.On a Linux box with AMD XP2500+ CPU with 1024 MB ddr and FX5700 card i 
only get 3200 FPS with glxgears.Quite remarkable to say the least.


Does anyone have a clue why this could have happened?



Merry Christmas and a good NewYear to everybody!
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I am new User

2004-12-25 Thread pedram
Hi

I want Learn FreeBSD but I am New in Unix Platform.

I have MCSE and CCNA Certification and I am Administrator in an ISP and some 
companies.

I was Download FreeBSD 5.3

Which books or sites you suggest me to learn?



Thank you

Pedram Akbari
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Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2004-12-25 Thread Jud
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 00:25:11 +, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt Seaman posted a link to a crappy
here is what CSS can do mockup that I posted to doc@ just before the
commit mentioned above - it's at
http://shrike.submonkey.net/~ceri/data2/index.html (be sure to let all
the images load - this is on a slow link - and be aware that it doesn't
work properly in IE for reasons that DES mentioned elsewhere).
Hey, that's rather cute (in Linux-Opera).  Looking forward to further  
developments.

Re fonts, the Bitstream Vera set is very nice.  It's available as a port -  
suppose there's no pressing reason to include it in the base (it's  
reasonably small)?

Jud
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Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports

2004-12-25 Thread Jay O'Brien
albi wrote:

 Jay O'Brien wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 
Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM.
 
 - cut for brevity 
 
-I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present?
 
 
 a fresh FreeBSD 5.3 has xorg by default instead of XFree86
 

So X is installed by default whether or not I wish to use X?

Jay

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fstab -b

2004-12-25 Thread Grant Peel
I have been reading in man fstab that the bg switch is depriciated, but I am 
not sure i understand the correct usage of the -b switch .. anyone?

-Grant
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Re: glxgears

2004-12-25 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Dec 25, Peter Harmsen launched this into the bitstream:
I have a FreeBSD box on a Elitegroup K7S5A mobo with a Asus TI4200 AGP 8x 
graphics card and AMD 512 MB sdram XP2000+ CPU.I get 3600 FPS with glxgears 
after i recompiled the kernel without agp and tweaked the Nvidia driver source 
a little.On a Linux box with AMD XP2500+ CPU with 1024 MB ddr and FX5700 card i 
only get 3200 FPS with glxgears.Quite remarkable to say the least.
Does anyone have a clue why this could have happened?
In a word - no
but - to be scrupulously fair - that could be due to the ingestion of 
enormous qty's of food, wine, beer  raki

That isn't what you wanted to hear - I know
[burp]
[THUD}
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Re: I am new User

2004-12-25 Thread Giuliano Cardozo Medalha
Pedram,
The best first reference about FreeBSD (in my opinion) is their own 
hadnbook.

Take a look that:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
It is a complete reference to install and use it.
After read it ... if you have any more questions ... post it to the list.
Have you did the download of the FreeBSD 5.3 first CD from Freebsd.org ?
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.3/5.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
The CD1 is enought for you to install it.
Be welcome !!!
Att,
Giuliano

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Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports

2004-12-25 Thread Frank Staals
Jay O'Brien wrote:
albi wrote:
 

Jay O'Brien wrote:
hi,
   

Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM.
 

- cut for brevity 
   

-I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present?
 

a fresh FreeBSD 5.3 has xorg by default instead of XFree86
   

So X is installed by default whether or not I wish to use X?
Jay
 

No, FreeBSD prior to 5.3 had XFree86 as X-server, but since XFree86 
changed their licenses FreeBSD switched to X.org. If you installed X.org 
depends on what install you choose. If you choose 'minimal install' you 
don't have X.org installed ( if you didn't do it yourself later ) but if 
you choose 'X-user' or anything like that you do have X.org. You can 
check it by running 'pkg_info | grep xorg. If you get something like 
this you have installed X.org:

bash-3.00$ pkg_info | grep xorg
xorg-clients-6.7.0_4 X client programs and related files from X.Org
xorg-documents-6.7.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org
xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.7.0 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.7.0 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.7.0 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.7.0 X.Org font encoding files
xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.7.0 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
xorg-fonts-truetype-6.7.0 X.Org TrueType fonts
xorg-fonts-type1-6.7.0 X.Org Type1 fonts
xorg-fontserver-6.7.0 X font server from X.Org
xorg-libraries-6.7.0_2 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org
xorg-manpages-6.7.0 X.Org library manual pages
xorg-server-6.7.0_9 X.Org X server and related programs
xorg-vfbserver-6.7.0 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org
Merry X-mas btw :)
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Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports

2004-12-25 Thread Jay O'Brien
Kris Kennaway wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:54:04PM -0800, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 
 
I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times 
to fetch X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz, each time taking over an hour, 
and when the file failed, it failed showing a checksum mismatch. 
 
 
I tried it again today, and it was able to fetch the three 
remaining files. SLOW. I have a DSL connection, and usually 
see 1.5MB speeds or more. Two of the files came in at 6kBps, 
one at 26 kBps. This Portupgrade session, including downloading 
the files detailed below, took 3 hours and 38 minutes; 1.5 hours 
was spent just downloading the three files.

From the script file of the session:
= X11R6.8.1-src(#).tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in 
/usr/ports/distfiles/xorg.
= Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/X11R6.8.1/tars/

files fetched and time for download:
filesizeend speedtime 
X11R6.8.1-src1.tar.gz29MB   6510 Bps 80 min
X11R6.8.1-src6.tar.gz  3106kB   6298 Bps  8 min
X11R6.8.1-src2.tar.gz  5672kB 26 kBps 4 min

I have two questions:

-Is this typical to see such slow download speeds
 
 
 Sometimes; it's not unusual for a popular ftp site to be heavily
 loaded.  There are various variables you can set to control fetching
 from different sites; see the ports(7) manpage and the comments in
 bsd.port.mk.
 

Wow. And after I decode that somehow I have to know an alternate site.
It appeared to me that as it was fetching from x.org (see above) that 
the ftp site was not something I could change.  6500 Bps is much 
slower than an ancient dialup connection; a big waste of time, it 
appeared, as I am not using X at all.

 
and for the 
 portupgrade process to take so much time? 
 
 
 X is a large set of applications, so it's going to take a little while
 to compile it all :-)
 
 
-I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present?
 
 
 I don't understand what you're asking here.

In my install of FreeBSD I did not select any flavor of X at all, and 
I would like to learn why it was installed by default.

 
 Kris

Thanks for your answer, it has pointed me at more things I didn't know 
were there that I have to learn about.

Jay

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Re: portupgrade vs. portmanager

2004-12-25 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Saturday 25 December 2004 04:53 am, Peter Schuller wrote:
  Right now portmanager is upgrading kdelibs and I'm still using it.
  The only problem that might occur is between the
  deinstall/reinstall steps I'll be missing the libraries for about a
  minute, when this happens I just wait untill its finished
  reinstalling then continue.
  Here is a recap of what happens:

 ...

  I've been testing this for a year now and haven't had a problem yet
  using a program while it is being updated.

 That does indeed sound perfectly painless. I failed to remember that
 there is another factor playing into my annoyance with pkg_chk -
 namely that it seems to remove dependent packages in chunks prior to
 re-installing them. So the end-result is that the system is
 completely missing several packages for extended periods of time
 while a bunch of other packages are being compiled.

 I don't know why this is done or exactly under what circumstances.
 But indeed, the way portmanager behaves as you described above sounds
 a lot better.

  Portupgrade has one serious flaw in my opinion and that is running
  something like pkgdb -F damages the port installation database as
  far as I'm concerned.  It causes the data base to say ports were
  built with dependency ports that they were  never really built
  with.  Portmanager only addresses that one issue and for the
  forseeable future that is where all the focus will be, only on
  correctly updating ports.

 Ok. That sounds good. To be honest I have never understood why the
 dependencies seem to randombly break, requiring a lot of fiddling
 with pkgdb.


 I tried portmanager in the past but missed the fact of 'proper'
 upgrading of entire dependency chains. I will have another go now
 though. Thanks for the clarifications!

Thanks for giving portmanager a try! Right now it is having a problem
with conflicting ports (like some of the linux base ports) where 
portupgrade can alter the dependencies portmanager gets a little 
confused so you have to resolve the conflicts manually.  That should be 
resolved in portmanager ver 0.2.2.

-Mike

manually if they occur.
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Re: I am new User

2004-12-25 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 24 December 2004 10:45 am, pedram wrote:
 Hi

 I want Learn FreeBSD but I am New in Unix Platform.

 I have MCSE and CCNA Certification and I am Administrator in an ISP
 and some companies.

 I was Download FreeBSD 5.3

 Which books or sites you suggest me to learn?



 Thank you

 Pedram Akbari

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

Say what country you are from and maybe there is a copy of the handbook
in your language.

-Mike
 
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Re: I am new User

2004-12-25 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Friday 24 December 2004 12:45 pm, pedram wrote:
 Hi

 I want Learn FreeBSD but I am New in Unix Platform.

 I have MCSE and CCNA Certification and I am Administrator in an ISP
 and some companies.

 I was Download FreeBSD 5.3

 Which books or sites you suggest me to learn?



 Thank you

 Pedram Akbari

The FAQ and handbook are good places to start:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

A search at Amazon.com should give you a good list of available books, 
regardless of where or how you choose to purchase them.

Once the system is installed, you'll want to do stuff.  There are good 
how-to's located online at:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/15
http://www.freebsddiary.org/topics.php

Online forums are also good resources:
http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/

And don't forget that you can search the FreeBSD email list archives:
http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists

Best regards,

Andrew Gould
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Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports

2004-12-25 Thread Jay O'Brien
Frank Staals wrote:

 Jay O'Brien wrote:
 
 
albi wrote:

 


Jay O'Brien wrote:

hi,


   


Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM.
 


- cut for brevity 

   


-I didn't install xorg. Why are the 16 xorg ports present?
 


a fresh FreeBSD 5.3 has xorg by default instead of XFree86

   


So X is installed by default whether or not I wish to use X?

Jay

 

 
 No, FreeBSD prior to 5.3 had XFree86 as X-server, but since XFree86 
 changed their licenses FreeBSD switched to X.org. If you installed X.org 
 depends on what install you choose. If you choose 'minimal install' you 
 don't have X.org installed ( if you didn't do it yourself later ) but if 
 you choose 'X-user' or anything like that you do have X.org. You can 
 check it by running 'pkg_info | grep xorg. If you get something like 
 this you have installed X.org:
 
 bash-3.00$ pkg_info | grep xorg
 xorg-clients-6.7.0_4 X client programs and related files from X.Org
 xorg-documents-6.7.0 Documentation of X11 protocol and libraries from X.Org
 xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.7.0 X.Org 100dpi bitmap fonts
 xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.7.0 X.Org 75dpi bitmap fonts
 xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.7.0 X.Org Cyrillic bitmap fonts
 xorg-fonts-encodings-6.7.0 X.Org font encoding files
 xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.7.0 X.Org miscellaneous bitmap fonts
 xorg-fonts-truetype-6.7.0 X.Org TrueType fonts
 xorg-fonts-type1-6.7.0 X.Org Type1 fonts
 xorg-fontserver-6.7.0 X font server from X.Org
 xorg-libraries-6.7.0_2 X11 libraries and headers from X.Org
 xorg-manpages-6.7.0 X.Org library manual pages
 xorg-server-6.7.0_9 X.Org X server and related programs
 xorg-vfbserver-6.7.0 X virtual framebuffer server from X.Org
 
 Merry X-mas btw :)
 
 

Frank,

That's what I have. I *Thought* I had not selected X, but your words 
caused me to review my installation notes. My face is *red*. I did 
select All system sources, binaries and X window system. My intent 
with this computer is for it to be a web and mail server; when I did 
the install I probably accepted the X because someday I want to run 
Mozilla for local html viewing. I sure didn't know the consequences 
of that selection! But it is there, so it will stay. Thanks for 
answering my question.  X is there because I asked for it!

And Merry Christmas to you too!

Jay

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Re: I am new User

2004-12-25 Thread W. D.
At 12:45 12/24/2004, pedram wrote:
Hi

I want Learn FreeBSD but I am New in Unix Platform.

I have MCSE and CCNA Certification and I am Administrator in an ISP and some 
companies.

I was Download FreeBSD 5.3

Which books or sites you suggest me to learn?

http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/

Start Here to Find It Fast!™ - http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/
$8.77 Domain Names - http://domains.us-webmasters.com/

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Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports

2004-12-25 Thread RW
On Friday 24 December 2004 21:54, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM.

 This is my first experience using portupgrade.

 I ran cvsup successfully for ports-all. I ran pkg_version -v.
 It showed a total of 28 ports, 20 needed updating. Of those,
 16 were xorg- ports; the others were xterm, freetype2, imake
 and png.

 I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times

You dont need the -N switch, it's only used for new port installations, not 
upgrades. Using it carelessly is a bit dangerous, you may find youself 
installing ports you don't want.
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Netgear MA111 wifi card with Project Evil

2004-12-25 Thread Shahar Yuval
Hi,

I'm trying to use my Netgear MA111 wireless USB card
in FreeBSD.  As I understand, FreeBSD's wi module does
not support it (OpenBSD's does).  Therefore, I decided
to check out NDISulator (Project Evil).
I followed the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook,
installed ndis, ndiscvt, copied my Windows drivers and
complied if_ndis.

However, when I tried to load if_ndis, I got the
following error message:

link_elf: symbol ndis_set_info undefined

and the module is not loaded.

Someone apparently already ran into this problem:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-June/028753.html

and received the following response:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-June/028783.html

I speculate that perhaps if_ndis expects inf and sys
files from a PCI/Cardbus card and not a USB one.

I'd appreciate your assistance in getting the card to
work.





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Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports

2004-12-25 Thread Jay O'Brien
RW wrote:
 On Friday 24 December 2004 21:54, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 
Running FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0, i386 P3-667MHz, 512MB RAM.

This is my first experience using portupgrade.

I ran cvsup successfully for ports-all. I ran pkg_version -v.
It showed a total of 28 ports, 20 needed updating. Of those,
16 were xorg- ports; the others were xterm, freetype2, imake
and png.

I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times
 
 
 You dont need the -N switch, it's only used for new port installations, not 
 upgrades. Using it carelessly is a bit dangerous, you may find youself 
 installing ports you don't want.


Thanks, I wasn't sure about that.  I saw an example that used -N 
and followed it.  I'm not clear on what -N really does, but for 
now I just won't use it!

Jay

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web server permissions question

2004-12-25 Thread Jay O'Brien
I think this is a permissions issue. I just installed Apache13, 
and it works fine on my LAN using a fixed local IP. I opened 
port 80 in my Linksys router, and from the internet I can now 
get to my home page over the internet, using my fixed IP. 

From my local LAN I can use links on my home page to display 
html files in directories under the directory where my home 
page lives. However, from over the internet I can only get to 
my home page. Except, I can go to IP/manual/ and apache shows 
me the apache manual pages by virtue of an alias in httpd.conf. 

So, I know it is possible to access other web pages via the 
internet connection; I just don't know how to allow access to 
my subdirectories. 

Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda, California USA

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gnome-cd: cant connect to cddb server--resolved

2004-12-25 Thread Karl Agee
I had posted earlier that I couldnt pull down cd info from the cddb server 
when playing music cd's.  I did a lot more googling and found that:

1)  gnome-cd uses a program called cddbslave2 to fetch info from the cddb 
servers;

2) cddbslave2 uses ftp through port 888 to request this info.
so I poked a hole in my firewall for tcp on port 888 and it works.
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Partitioning issues

2004-12-25 Thread Kvesdn Gbor
Hi,

I tried to install FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE on an amd64 system, which have got a
RAID5 array, consisting of 3 disks. Thus the entire hd capacity is about
300GB, but the installer was unable to create a partition, that was bigger
than some mbytes. The cd is not an official disk, I created this, but I
could install it on my machine (without raid). The kernel was a simple
GENERIC kernel. Please help me, I'm very afraid of this issue, because I
must administer this server and it must be okay in two weeks.

Thanx,
Merry XMas,

Gabor Kovesdan

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Re: portupgrade time, xorg ports

2004-12-25 Thread Jud
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 11:58:03 -0800, Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
I ran portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR, and it tried several times

You dont need the -N switch, it's only used for new port installations,  
not
upgrades. Using it carelessly is a bit dangerous, you may find youself
installing ports you don't want.

Thanks, I wasn't sure about that.  I saw an example that used -N
and followed it.  I'm not clear on what -N really does, but for
now I just won't use it!
While the manual (man) pages aren't always crystal clear, the one for  
portupgrade is actually pretty good at explaining what all those letter  
options are for.  Just type at the prompt:

$ man portupgrade
You'll have a much better idea of what the options do and which ones you  
want to use for a given situation.

Jud
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Re: sendmail running on localhost 25?

2004-12-25 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 05:29:05PM -0700, James wrote:
 On Friday 24 December 2004 09:16 am, Ruben de Groot wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:26:15AM -0700, James typed:
   Hello,
  
   Use:
   sendmail_enable=none
  
   This will disable all sendmail processes.
 
  This will also disable those annoying daily, weekly and montly
  messages recieved from cronjobs.
 
  Who wants to read about your disks filling up, attempts to break into
  your server and other futilities anyway ;-)
 
 Thanks for the heads up on that Is there a way to make cron use something 
 other then sendmail?

If you specify in /etc/periodic.conf:

daily_output=/var/log/daily.log
weekly_output=/var/log/weekly.log
monthly_output=/var/log/monthly.log

The logs from periodic will go to those files instead.
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create device

2004-12-25 Thread Leon
Hi,

I have 5.3 BSD.
I'm trying to create device with command MAKEDEV
But this command is not recognizable.
Which command can I use to create device?

Thanks,
Leon.
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Re: Freebsd non-profit stat OT

2004-12-25 Thread Andrew P.
Nikolas Britton wrote:
Mark wrote:
I was looking at the bsd site and noticed the Quarterly Report was 
out, and in this report
it states we are in danger of losing the non-profit status. Please 
read this report.

http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/20041221-newsletter.shtml
 

Yes, I saw that yesterday, they need to rise $30,400, the max for any 
single person or entity is $8000 to meet the required 1/3rd rule. My 
only question is why they waited till now to raise 30 grand, someone 
dropped the ball on this one. Sent them your money and do it fast (umm 
like today) as the deadline is 6 day's away:

The FreeBSD Foundation accepts donations via check:
  The FreeBSD Foundation
  7321 Brockway Dr.
  Boulder, CO 80303
 or PayPal:
  http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donating.shtml
 Checks must be postmarked by December 31st. to count toward the
 advanced ruling period.
Could they finally work out some new ways of payment? I'm from Russia - 
I can't use Paypal and I can hardly get any checks. I supported Mozilla 
foundation with my Visa card, and I'd like it very much to send a few 
bucks to FreeBSD every now and again.

Popularity is a big deal. I could never understand why this organization 
(not community) was not aiming at getting more users and supporters. I 
mean, this is the best OS I've ever seen. And while I don't even 
remember how or when I first heard about it, I'm sure there are 
thousands out there, who'd be glad to become FreeBSD fans, but they just 
don't know anything about it. Just put a few nice pictures and 
screenshots on the website, and people will get attracted.

Same thing with money. I don't want to order your CD's, cuz they can get 
lost on their way, and if they don't, I won't be expecting them until 50 
days pass (that's how long I'd waited for The Complete FreeBSD until it 
came). I just want to pay, say, $10 a month with a Visa card. Not much, 
but I'm not alone. Look at Firefox - a much smaller project can raise 
$100k in a week. Can't we?

Best wishes,
Andrew P.
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RE: The FreeBSD Foundation

2004-12-25 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Jay Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 12:03 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Foundation


 On Friday 24 December 2004 01:07 am, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

  Now, as for the Foundation's status as a charity:
   
I'll start with asking you a simple question:  Setting aside the
legal definitions, what in your mind IS a charity, exactly?
  
   Hey look - I don't need a lecture about charity, and I'm not
   disputing that
   the foundation is legally classified as a charity.
 
  I never said that you were disputing the legal definition.  But
  clearly you are disputing the idea that it is a charity.

 Yes, I am disputing that. It is not a charity except in the tax avoidance
 sense of the word.

Hmm  'tax avoidance' another loaded phrase.  Most conservatives would say
that the government doesen't have the moral right to tax contributions
to non-profits, so it's impossible to 'avoid' a tax that shouldn't
exist in the first place.  tax avoidance carries obvious criminal
implications.

 You are attempting to twist the words and
 their meaning to
 support your agenda.

Don't accuse me of what you are doing.  I said that you could make
a case against The FreeBSD Foundation if you wished to do so on a
logical basis and I would respect that.  You have chosen not to do
that.  Instead you are attempting to make an emotional case against
The FreeBSD Foundation based on the alleged misuse of the word
'charity', a misuse that doesen't exist as I showed you.

Go ahead and make a reasoned argument against The FreeBSD Foundation,
the audience here is waiting for it.  By playing the semantics game you
aren't making any kind of case against anything.

 Under your selective interpretation of the
 definition,
 one could claim virtually anything as a gift for public benevolent
 purposes. It's bullshit, Ted, and you may deny it here in this
 forum, but
 you know it is.


Naturally someone could misuse my selective interpretation of
the word charity to claim anything.  That isn't relevant to
whether or not The FreeBSD Foundation is a charity.  You seem to
think it isn't and the only argument you have put forth is that
a charity is only supposed to help the needy - but the term needy
applies to what the Foundation happens to be doing with FreeBSD.

 
  Well, that is why I made the Robin Hood remark.  I will point out
  that the FreeBSD Foundation in fact uses the actual term
 public charity
  on their website.  And certainly the
  Foundation doesen't attempt to pass itself off as using the money
  to help the poor.  I am aware that many people don't view a
  charity as anything more than a needy-person-helping apparatus.
  However I urge you to examine your view of the idea of 'need'  There
  are many people out there also who feel that much of the 'need'
  served by charities isn't really need it is choice.  Many people
  are incensed that some charities feed alcoholic bums that spend
  their nights sleeping in the streets.  Many would weigh the 'need'
  of FreeBSD to have a good Java implementation against the 'need'
  of an alcoholic to continue to be fed day after day without quitting
  drinking, and feel that the FreeBSD need was greater.

 alcoholic bums?!  Is this another example of your interpretation
 of charity?
 Are you really asking anyone to accept you as an authority on
 what charity
 means when you refer to alcoholics as bums?

There are alcoholics and there are alcoholic bums, they
are different types of alcoholics.  That is why I used the term
'alcoholic bums' instead of just using the term 'alcoholics'

Many charities help alcoholics who want to stop being alcoholics
and only a Scrooge would take issue with this, IMHO.  But some
help alcoholics who don't want to get better.  These alcoholics are
bums.  Sorry you don't like the term - do you have a better one for
alcoholics that refuse treatment?  I don't.

And in any case why are you focusing on this in the first place and
ignoring the definition of needy, which clearly is what that
paragraph is about.


 In case you forgot to read the _entire_ definition of charity,
 Ted, try # 4:
 4 : lenient judgment of others. Frankly, I find your arrogance annoying.


Sorry to hear that.  I have compassion for street people who want
to stop being street people.  I have none for any person who
feels the world owes them a living and take handout after handout
without ever even trying to better themselves.  I submit that
people who think this is arrogant are merely enabling those
second type of street people, and actually, are doing more
to harm those people in the long run.

 I'll say it again: I support FreeBSD through CD purchases, and
 would consider
 an outright cash donation. I think the project is a good thing,
 and I also
 think it serves the public good. But it's not a charity,

No argument there the Project never has said it is a charity nor

make.conf file CPUTYPE?

2004-12-25 Thread Gerard Seibert
When I ran 'buildkernel' as well as 'buildworld', I used 
the 'CPUTYPE?=i686' directive in the 'make.conf' file. I was wondering if 
it is correct to leave it in the 'make.conf' file now that I am finished 
building a new kernel and updating the system. Would I be better off if I 
just removed it, or changed it to 'CPUTYPE=i686'. I assumed that the '?' 
was just for the 'buildworld' procedure.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Freebsd non-profit stat OT

2004-12-25 Thread Lane
On Saturday 25 December 2004 17:31, Andrew P. wrote:
 Nikolas Britton wrote:
  Mark wrote:
  I was looking at the bsd site and noticed the Quarterly Report was
  out, and in this report
  it states we are in danger of losing the non-profit status. Please
  read this report.
 
  http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/press/20041221-newsletter.shtml
 
  Yes, I saw that yesterday, they need to rise $30,400, the max for any
  single person or entity is $8000 to meet the required 1/3rd rule. My
  only question is why they waited till now to raise 30 grand, someone
  dropped the ball on this one. Sent them your money and do it fast (umm
  like today) as the deadline is 6 day's away:
 
 
  The FreeBSD Foundation accepts donations via check:
 
The FreeBSD Foundation
7321 Brockway Dr.
Boulder, CO 80303
 
   or PayPal:
 
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donating.shtml
 
   Checks must be postmarked by December 31st. to count toward the
   advanced ruling period.

 Could they finally work out some new ways of payment? I'm from Russia -
 I can't use Paypal and I can hardly get any checks. I supported Mozilla
 foundation with my Visa card, and I'd like it very much to send a few
 bucks to FreeBSD every now and again.

 Popularity is a big deal. I could never understand why this organization
 (not community) was not aiming at getting more users and supporters. I
 mean, this is the best OS I've ever seen. And while I don't even
 remember how or when I first heard about it, I'm sure there are
 thousands out there, who'd be glad to become FreeBSD fans, but they just
 don't know anything about it. Just put a few nice pictures and
 screenshots on the website, and people will get attracted.

 Same thing with money. I don't want to order your CD's, cuz they can get
 lost on their way, and if they don't, I won't be expecting them until 50
 days pass (that's how long I'd waited for The Complete FreeBSD until it
 came). I just want to pay, say, $10 a month with a Visa card. Not much,
 but I'm not alone. Look at Firefox - a much smaller project can raise
 $100k in a week. Can't we?

 Best wishes,
 Andrew P.
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Hey!  I never knew there was a FreeBSDFoundation!  

I bought the CDROM's back when FreeBSD was at 3.4.  I guess they already spent 
that money, huh?

Not to break my arm patting myself on the back, but I just donated.  They're 
at 87% toward keeping their 501c(3) status.  I hope like heck that others 
will donate.

FreeBSD is good for software development everywhere!

lane
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triple monitor hardware setup on FBSD - suggestions needed...

2004-12-25 Thread Joe Schmoe

I am currently running a triple-monitor setup under
winXP, with an extended desktop that stretches across
all three monitors.  I like it.

I would, however, like to use FreeBSD.

So, first off, what hardware (video card) comes to
mind for doing triple screens with FreeBSD ?  A matrox
P750 comes to mind, but when you run it with three
screens, they downgrade to 1280x1024, which is bad.  I
am happy to consider multiple video cards to
accomplish this ... at the very least I need 1600x1200
out of each card, preferably 1920x1200 ...

Second, what is the support for something like this in
XFree86, or x.org ?  What I am really looking for is
the ability to create virtually sized screens - so
instead of having three total (physical) screens that
I can maximize windows inside of, I want to split each
physical screen in half for a total of 6 virtual
screens - so there are six total areas within which I
can maximize a window in ... this is something I am
really trying to accomplish.

thanksy!

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Re: make.conf file CPUTYPE?

2004-12-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 08:17:00PM -0500, Gerard Seibert wrote:
 When I ran 'buildkernel' as well as 'buildworld', I used 
 the 'CPUTYPE?=i686' directive in the 'make.conf' file. I was wondering if 
 it is correct to leave it in the 'make.conf' file now that I am finished 
 building a new kernel and updating the system. Would I be better off if I 
 just removed it, or changed it to 'CPUTYPE=i686'. I assumed that the '?' 
 was just for the 'buildworld' procedure.

Setting it with ?= was a bug that was recently fixed.  You can cvsup
and continue to set it with =.

Kris


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Re: triple monitor hardware setup on FBSD - suggestions needed...

2004-12-25 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 25 December 2004 at 17:45:49 -0800, Joe Schmoe wrote:

 I am currently running a triple-monitor setup under
 winXP, with an extended desktop that stretches across
 all three monitors.  I like it.

 I would, however, like to use FreeBSD.

 So, first off, what hardware (video card) comes to
 mind for doing triple screens with FreeBSD ?  A matrox
 P750 comes to mind, but when you run it with three
 screens, they downgrade to 1280x1024, which is bad.  I
 am happy to consider multiple video cards to
 accomplish this ... at the very least I need 1600x1200
 out of each card, preferably 1920x1200 ...

You're not limited to a single video card under FreeBSD.

 Second, what is the support for something like this in XFree86, or
 x.org ?

Good.

 What I am really looking for is the ability to create virtually
 sized screens - so instead of having three total (physical) screens
 that I can maximize windows inside of, I want to split each physical
 screen in half for a total of 6 virtual screens - so there are six
 total areas within which I can maximize a window in ... this is
 something I am really trying to accomplish.

I don't know how you'd do that (nor why you would want to).  X offers
a feature called Xinerama which does the opposite: it treats all
screens as part of one big screen.  The disadvantage here is that all
the screens should have the same resolution.  From experience, you
can't do everything with 2048x1536 screens: too much software
(especially from the Microsoft space, or free software which tries to
emulate it) can't handle this kind of resolution.  For example, web
browsing on such screens is a pain: either the fonts are miniscule, or
half the (broken) web sites that you browse completely break their
formatting.

I'm currently running a setup with 8 displays spread over 5 machines.
One of them has three displays.  Take a look at
http://www.lemis.com/grog/hardware.html, which is a little out of date
(I'm now running x.org, and I now have more screens), but it gives an
idea of the kind of things you can do.

Greg
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Re: MAJOR DISFUNCTION! Computer reboots instead of booting FreeBSD!

2004-12-25 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:39 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
Dear all of you,


My computer (HP Compaq DC7100) refuses to boot to FreeBSD. It enters
the
in the bootloader and the computer reboots! What kind of behavior is
thi

I'm aware that some UNIX systems need a patch to work on this type of
co
[1]http://www5.  
 itrc.hp.com/service/patch/wrap.do?pageKey=patch.jsp.archiveJumpadmi t

But in my case, what do I need to do? Disabling ACPI in the BIOS
doesn't
I'm informed (when I reinsert my S-ATA HD) that if I'm running UNIX, I
s
But guess what? There are no such options. Believe me I've looked.


Your computer seem to have more problems than the inability to boot FBSD.

It seems the moths have nibbled away important parts of your query, so
for the most part I find it unintelligable.


Malcolm

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Re: Freebsd non-profit stat OT

2004-12-25 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Could they finally work out some new ways of payment? I'm from Russia
 -
 I can't use Paypal and I can hardly get any checks. I supported
 Mozilla foundation with my Visa card, and I'd like it very much to
 send a few bucks to FreeBSD every now and again.

They *can* accept VISA cards.
http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donating.shtml
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RE: create device

2004-12-25 Thread Subhro


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leon
 Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 4:18
 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
 Subject: create device
 
 Hi,
 
 I have 5.3 BSD.
 I'm trying to create device with command MAKEDEV
 But this command is not recognizable.
 Which command can I use to create device?
 
 Thanks,
 Leon.
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The MAKEDV script is only present on a 4.* system and is not there on a
5.3system. A 5.3 system automatically creates all required device nodes.

Regards
S.

Indian Institute of Information Technology
Subhro Sankha Kar
Block AQ-13/1, Sector V
Salt Lake City
PIN 700091
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Starting Apache 2.0.52 in rc.conf under FreeBSD 5.3

2004-12-25 Thread Anthony Atkielski
I installed Apache 2.0.52 on my fresh reinstallation of FreeBSD 5.3, but
I can't figure out how the new rc.conf system works.  How do I set
things up so I can start Apache in rc.conf?  I installed Apache directly
from the downloaded source rather than from the ports, so this wasn't
done automatically.

Also, is there a comprehensive explanation of how the new rc.conf stuff
works somewhere on the Web?  I don't understand the rc.d interaction.

-- 
Anthony


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RE: make.conf file CPUTYPE?

2004-12-25 Thread Subhro

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerard Seibert
 Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 6:47
 To: freebsd-questions
 Subject: make.conf file  CPUTYPE?
 
 When I ran 'buildkernel' as well as 'buildworld', I used
 the 'CPUTYPE?=i686' directive in the 'make.conf' file. I was wondering if
 it is correct to leave it in the 'make.conf' file now that I am finished
 building a new kernel and updating the system. Would I be better off if I
 just removed it, or changed it to 'CPUTYPE=i686'. I assumed that the '?'
 was just for the 'buildworld' procedure.
 
snip

The ? is required onlyif you build a kernel for one architecture on a
different architecture. For example, you try to build a kernel for a P1 on a
P4 box. You would be better of with CPUTYPE=i686 or more precisely something
like CPUTYPE=p3 (in case you are building the world/kernel) for a Pentium
III system. And I wuld recommend to leave the same in make.conf even after
completion of the building because, all subsequent builds would be optimized
for the processor mentioned in CPUTYPE

Regards,
S.

Indian Institute of Information Technology
Subhro Sankha Kar
Block AQ-13/1, Sector V
Salt Lake City
PIN 700091
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Re: glxgears

2004-12-25 Thread haruko
On 12/25/04 12:23:09, Peter Harmsen wrote:
 I have a FreeBSD box on a Elitegroup K7S5A mobo with a Asus TI4200 
 AGP
 8x graphics card and AMD 512 MB sdram XP2000+ CPU.I get 3600 FPS with
 glxgears after i recompiled the kernel without agp and tweaked the
 Nvidia driver source a little.On a Linux box with AMD XP2500+ CPU 
 with
 1024 MB ddr and FX5700 card i only get 3200 FPS with glxgears.Quite
 remarkable to say the least.
 
 
 Does anyone have a clue why this could have happened?
 
 
 
 Merry Christmas and a good NewYear to everybody!
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I don't know about linux/verses FreeBSD, but I can tell you about
hardware support.  I am not sure about nvidia stuff(core models), but I
can tell you new cards tend not to have support, then bad support at
first.  This may not be the case with the nvidia drivers.  If that card
is new enough glxgears was running partially or all on the cpu not
graphics hardware.


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Re: LoadBalancer With FreeBSD

2004-12-25 Thread haruko
On 12/24/04 06:22:34, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
Hi Everybody ,
Do you know any load balancer program for FreeBSD like
linux LVS
. I checked ports and find out morebalance-0.3 and loadd-0.8 ?!
Anybody use
those programs?!
I want make a load balance on my frontend servers ?!
Could you give me advise about using hardware-load-balancer or
software-load-balancer ?!
And I wonder How many connection can handle FreeBSD box ?! Because
hardware
load-balancer can up to 2.000.000 connection per box. I think that
with PIII
and 512 machine I can handle ?!
Thanks
Vahric MUHTARYAN

I don't know about max connections, but FreeBSD set a record for over 1  
million packets per second, with linux on the same hardware only  
reaching around 100,000.  It was a dual 800mhz xeon I think.  You find  
the details when you search for freebsdcon and some sites like  
kerneltrap, slashdot, and osnews.

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Re: Starting Apache 2.0.52 in rc.conf under FreeBSD 5.3

2004-12-25 Thread Bill Moran
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I installed Apache 2.0.52 on my fresh reinstallation of FreeBSD 5.3, but
 I can't figure out how the new rc.conf system works.  How do I set
 things up so I can start Apache in rc.conf?  I installed Apache directly
 from the downloaded source rather than from the ports, so this wasn't
 done automatically.
 
 Also, is there a comprehensive explanation of how the new rc.conf stuff
 works somewhere on the Web?  I don't understand the rc.d interaction.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-rcng.html

Unfortunatly, this document doesn't fully explain how /usr/local/etc/rc.d
has changed, but it's a good start nonetheless.  More can be gleaned
by following the links to other man pages, and reading the various
/etc/rc scripts themselves.

HTH.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: web server permissions question

2004-12-25 Thread Bill Moran
Jay O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think this is a permissions issue. I just installed Apache13, 
 and it works fine on my LAN using a fixed local IP. I opened 
 port 80 in my Linksys router, and from the internet I can now 
 get to my home page over the internet, using my fixed IP. 
 
 From my local LAN I can use links on my home page to display 
 html files in directories under the directory where my home 
 page lives. However, from over the internet I can only get to 
 my home page. Except, I can go to IP/manual/ and apache shows 
 me the apache manual pages by virtue of an alias in httpd.conf. 
 
 So, I know it is possible to access other web pages via the 
 internet connection; I just don't know how to allow access to 
 my subdirectories. 

Sounds like your links are pointing to the private IP address, which
isn't accessable from the Internet at large.

If this is the case, fix your links.  Otherwise, please provide some
more information about the symptoms.  I doubt there is any sort of
permission problem.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: Freebsd non-profit stat OT

2004-12-25 Thread Bill Moran
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrew P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Could they finally work out some new ways of payment? I'm from Russia
  -
  I can't use Paypal and I can hardly get any checks. I supported
  Mozilla foundation with my Visa card, and I'd like it very much to
  send a few bucks to FreeBSD every now and again.
 
 They *can* accept VISA cards.
 http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donating.shtml

Perhaps they can for some people.  But they can't for me :(

Unfortunatley, PayPal (who I don't have an account with) insists that I
have an account and refuses to process my transaction unless I log in
(to the account that doesn't exist).

Am I the only one they're doing this to?  Doesn't seem like it's the
Foundation's fault, but it's preventing me from making a donation.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: web server permissions question

2004-12-25 Thread Jay O'Brien
Jay O'Brien wrote:

 I think this is a permissions issue. I just installed Apache13, 
 and it works fine on my LAN using a fixed local IP. I opened 
 port 80 in my Linksys router, and from the internet I can now 
 get to my home page over the internet, using my fixed IP. 
 
From my local LAN I can use links on my home page to display 
 html files in directories under the directory where my home 
 page lives. However, from over the internet I can only get to 
 my home page. Except, I can go to IP/manual/ and apache shows 
 me the apache manual pages by virtue of an alias in httpd.conf. 
 
 So, I know it is possible to access other web pages via the 
 internet connection; I just don't know how to allow access to 
 my subdirectories. 
 
 Jay O'Brien
 Rio Linda, California USA
 

More data on this issue

I found how to get around this problem, and it isn't permissions 
at all. On the other web server I use, I use relative and shortened 
addressing on links, for example /xyz which, when selected by the 
user, would then send the user the /xyz/home.html file, in the xyz 
subdirectory under the directory where the home page lives.

Now, with this version, I find that I must add a trailing /, using 
/xyz/ instead of /xyz, and with that change everything works as 
expected. I can now access home.html files in subtending directories 
with such shortened relative links from my LAN and from the internet. 

This doesn't explain why the link without the trailing / works fine 
on my local LAN but not when accessed over the internet.  

I would prefer to have it work without the trailing / because I want 
to copy many existing pages with such relative addresses from my 
other server.

I'm not sure where to look in them, but... now to the Apache manuals!

Jay

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Re: web server permissions question

2004-12-25 Thread Jay O'Brien
Bill Moran wrote:

 Sounds like your links are pointing to the private IP address, which
 isn't accessable from the Internet at large.
 
 If this is the case, fix your links.  Otherwise, please provide some
 more information about the symptoms.  I doubt there is any sort of
 permission problem.
 

Bill, 

The problem links are shortened relative links. See my additional post 
with more symptoms that I posted before I realized you had responded.

As you suggest, changing the links to add a trailing / fixed the 
problem, and if I didn't want to use existing web pages with shortened 
relative links without the trailing / character, it wouldn't be a 
problem. 

I would like to understand what is causing this to work the way it is.

Jay

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Re: MAJOR DISFUNCTION! Computer reboots instead of booting FreeBSD!

2004-12-25 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Saturday 25 December 2004 06:11 pm, Malcolm Kay 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 10:39 pm, Fafa Diliha Romanova wrote:
 Dear all of you,
 
 
 My computer (HP Compaq DC7100) refuses to boot to FreeBSD. It
  enters the
 in the bootloader and the computer reboots! What kind of
  behavior is thi
 
 I'm aware that some UNIX systems need a patch to work on this
  type of co
 [1]http://www5.
  itrc.hp.com/service/patch/wrap.do?pageKey=patch.jsp.archiveJumpadm
 i t
 
 But in my case, what do I need to do? Disabling ACPI in the BIOS
 doesn't
 I'm informed (when I reinsert my S-ATA HD) that if I'm running
  UNIX, I s
 But guess what? There are no such options. Believe me I've
  looked.

 Your computer seem to have more problems than the inability to boot
 FBSD.

 It seems the moths have nibbled away important parts of your query,
 so for the most part I find it unintelligable.

I am not sure what happened, but it looks like there was a problem with 
MIME and/or the stripping of it, so some (seemingly) random equal signs 
were inserted in the message, making it look like blank space after 
that in those lines of text in some MUAs. Anyway, here's what his post 
looks like without the garble:

--
Dear all of you,

My computer (HP Compaq DC7100) refuses to boot to FreeBSD. It enters
the MBR, I then select FreeBSD in the bootloader and the computer 
reboots! What kind of behavior is this, and why won't it give FreeBSD a 
chance?

I'm aware that some UNIX systems need a patch to work on this type of
computer:

[1]http://www5.itrc.hp.com/service/patch/wrap.do?pageKey=patch.jsp.archiveJumpadmit=552267591+1103976356811+28353475

But in my case, what do I need to do? Disabling ACPI in the BIOS doesn't 
work.

I'm informed (when I reinsert my S-ATA HD) that if I'm running UNIX, I 
should enable it in the BIOS.

But guess what? There are no such options. Believe me I've looked.

Does anybody know what's going on?

Thanks.

Dr. Galvin Hobbes @ FTEG
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Re: Freebsd non-profit stat OT

2004-12-25 Thread Jay O'Brien
Bill Moran wrote:

 Unfortunatley, PayPal (who I don't have an account with) insists that I
 have an account and refuses to process my transaction unless I log in
 (to the account that doesn't exist).
 
 Am I the only one they're doing this to?  Doesn't seem like it's the
 Foundation's fault, but it's preventing me from making a donation.

Bill, 

To test the system, I made a small contribution tonight in my wife's 
name using a credit card. She doesn't have a PayPal account, and didn't 
sign up for one. 

From http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donating.shtml click on DONATE, 
Then click on the If you do not currently have a PayPal account 
button, give it the amount, click on the Don't Have a PayPal Account 
secure checkout button, and give it the typical credit card info. 

The only catch appears to be that the credit card billing address must 
be in the USA, but I believe you are in PA.

The PayPal process I used was simpler, but a PayPal account isn't 
required.

Jay O'Brien

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Re: MAJOR DISFUNCTION! Computer reboots instead of booting FreeBSD!

2004-12-25 Thread Mike Brown
 My computer (HP Compaq DC7100) refuses to boot to FreeBSD. It enters
 the MBR, I then select FreeBSD in the bootloader and the computer 
 reboots! What kind of behavior is this, and why won't it give FreeBSD a 
 chance?

I had the same symptom on different hardware. If I watched closely, I could 
see a kernel error message appear very briefly before the reboot. I tried 
various things and posted here about it, but could not get past it, and no one 
offered any help. Disabling ACPI made zero difference. I didn't understand why 
it would boot fine on the miniinst CD to do the install, but wouldn't boot 
from the HD (an ordinary ATA one, at that).

The problem went away when I gave up on FreeBSD 5.3 and installed FreeBSD 4.10 
instead.
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Re: Netgear MA111 wifi card with Project Evil

2004-12-25 Thread Nikolas Britton
Shahar Yuval wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to use my Netgear MA111 wireless USB card
in FreeBSD.  As I understand, FreeBSD's wi module does
not support it (OpenBSD's does).  Therefore, I decided
to check out NDISulator (Project Evil).
I followed the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook,
installed ndis, ndiscvt, copied my Windows drivers and
complied if_ndis.
However, when I tried to load if_ndis, I got the
following error message:
link_elf: symbol ndis_set_info undefined
and the module is not loaded.
Someone apparently already ran into this problem:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-June/028753.html
and received the following response:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2004-June/028783.html
I speculate that perhaps if_ndis expects inf and sys
files from a PCI/Cardbus card and not a USB one.
I'd appreciate your assistance in getting the card to
work.
 

Project Evil, Yes, That's what I'd call the netgear MA111. This is the 
most flakiest POS I have ever see. Eventually I got so pissed at it that 
I calmly unplugged it from the USB port and forcefully wiped it across 
the room at a high velocity rate into the wall but it still worked after 
this and denied me the satisfaction I was looking for, thus I have 
blacklisted netgear. Here is a tip for any company in the networking 
bizz, NEVER PISS A SYSADMIN OFF I wish you all the luck in the 
world, and some anger management classes because after this your going 
to need it.
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Re: Failure in build of sdl12

2004-12-25 Thread Steve Lake
Any word on when this might be fixed?  It at least makes me feel 
better knowing it wasn't something *I* broke in the process of upgrading, 
but it does kinda leave me out on a limb. ^_^;;

At 09:28 PM 12/24/04 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 12:25:34AM -0500, Steve Lake wrote:
   When I'm trying to upgrade KDE to the latest build one of the things
   it asks me to install is SDL12.  During the build it gives the error
 dl_yuv_mmx.c:236: Syntax Error before '['  I also get one of these with
 417 as well and a bunch of failures after it.  The path this file is in is
 /usr/ports/devel/sdl12/work/video.

   Anyone got any ideas on how I might fix this?  I'm stuck and can't
   go any further till it's fixed.  PS.  Please reply directly to me 
as I
 don't subscribe to this list.  Thanks.

Known problem, already reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
http://pointyhat.freebsd.org, and reported to the maintainer.
Kris
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Re: Freebsd non-profit stat OT

2004-12-25 Thread Nikolas Britton
Andrew P. wrote:

Popularity is a big deal. I could never understand why this 
organization (not community) was not aiming at getting more users and 
supporters. I mean, this is the best OS I've ever seen. And while I 
don't even remember how or when I first heard about it, I'm sure there 
are thousands out there, who'd be glad to become FreeBSD fans, but 
they just don't know anything about it. Just put a few nice pictures 
and screenshots on the website, and people will get attracted.

Same thing with money. I don't want to order your CD's, cuz they can 
get lost on their way, and if they don't, I won't be expecting them 
until 50 days pass (that's how long I'd waited for The Complete 
FreeBSD until it came). I just want to pay, say, $10 a month with a 
Visa card. Not much, but I'm not alone. Look at Firefox - a much 
smaller project can raise $100k in a week. Can't we?

Best wishes,
Andrew P.
Thanks for valadating all the points I (and others) made in the 
FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated? thread, now if only we could get 
core and the communty at large to recognise that it's a problem and 
needs to be addressed.

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Re: MAJOR DISFUNCTION! Computer reboots instead of booting FreeBSD!

2004-12-25 Thread Juha Saarinen
It looks like Fafa is a troll. Same message was posted to the misc
OpenBSD list.

-- 
Juha
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