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Re: foo
Robert Bonomi wrote: From bonomi Wed May 23 03:14:43 2012 Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:14:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem mailer-dae...@mail.r-bonomi.com To: r...@mail.r-bonomi.com Subject: Postmaster notify: see transcript for details This is a MIME-encapsulated message --q4N8Egh0088941.1337760883/mail.r-bonomi.com The original message was received at Wed, 23 May 2012 03:14:37 -0500 (CDT) from bonomi@localhost with id q4N8Ebh0088939 - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - freebsd-questio...@freebsd.org (reason: 550 5.1.1 freebsd-questio...@freebsd.org: Recipient address rejected: undeliverable address: No mailbox by that name) - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mx1.freebsd.org.: DATA 550 5.1.1 freebsd-questio...@freebsd.org: Recipient address rejected: undeliverable address: No mailbox by that name 550 5.1.1 freebsd-questio...@freebsd.org... User unknown 554 5.5.1 Error: no valid recipients --q4N8Egh0088941.1337760883/mail.r-bonomi.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.r-bonomi.com Arrival-Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:14:37 -0500 (CDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; freebsd-questio...@freebsd.org Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; mx1.freebsd.org Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.1.1 freebsd-questio...@freebsd.org: Recipient address rejected: undeliverable address: No mailbox by that name Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:14:42 -0500 (CDT) --q4N8Egh0088941.1337760883/mail.r-bonomi.com Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers Return-Path: bonomi Received: (from bonomi@localhost) by mail.r-bonomi.com (8.14.4/rdb1) id q4N8Ebh0088939 for freebsd-questio...@freebsd.org; Wed, 23 May 2012 03:14:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 03:14:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Bonomi bonomi Message-Id: 201205230814.q4n8ebh0088...@mail.r-bonomi.com To: freebsd-questio...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard link identification In-Reply-To: d5b45194-70f2-4149-b9dd-56cdefb60...@fisglobal.com --q4N8Egh0088941.1337760883/mail.r-bonomi.com-- Excuse me for being dense, but _what_ exactly is the problem here? You're going to see these whenever you try and send to an address that does not exist - that is: freebsd-questio...@freebsd.org Should freebsd-questio...@freebsd.org not actually be freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org? Or this some super-double-secret list that the rest of us are not privy?;-) -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anything like mkmf for foo linux?
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 04:38:00AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 04:38:00 +0100 From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de Subject: Re: Anything like mkmf for foo linux? To: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:08:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: fwiw,i HAVE PORTED A FEW THINGS ACROSS. dunno what id do w/out the src!! Keep the mkmf source -- seems that is has been removed from the ports tree. Port: mkmf-4.11 Path: /usr/ports/devel/mkmf Info: Creates program and library makefiles for the make(1) command Maint: po...@freebsd.org Moved: Date: 2011-08-01 Reason: Has expired: Looks like an abandonware, no more public distfile Planned obsolescence in action? :-) Wow! dunno what i would do without a tool like this. it uses three templates for C/C++, fortran, and pascal[?]. builds neat auto makefiles that seem to work anywhere. i.e.: bsd and linux. probly all nixes. well, i'll spend a few hours for the weekends ahead and port to ubuntu. --note that i do not know how to add anything to the linux packages and wont even try. tx, polyt, appreciate it -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Anything like mkmf for foo linux?
i asked the seattle linux group and the mkmf they have on/for ubuntu was fine. not by me. i started to port our mkmf which is non-trivial at best. so:: are there any other kinds of makefile creators in ports that i can use on my FBSD server AND SEE IF UBUNTU HAS A SIMILAR PACKAGE? fwiw,i HAVE PORTED A FEW THINGS ACROSS. dunno what id do w/out the src!! thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 8.51a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Anything like mkmf for foo linux?
On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:08:41 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: fwiw,i HAVE PORTED A FEW THINGS ACROSS. dunno what id do w/out the src!! Keep the mkmf source -- seems that is has been removed from the ports tree. Port: mkmf-4.11 Path: /usr/ports/devel/mkmf Info: Creates program and library makefiles for the make(1) command Maint: po...@freebsd.org Moved: Date: 2011-08-01 Reason: Has expired: Looks like an abandonware, no more public distfile Planned obsolescence in action? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On 11/25/10 03:01, Gary Kline wrote: Folks (mostly Adam), Hang on a sec. I think I misread what my friend said. Following is a snip of what he said was good; that this was among the stuff he installed a few years back and now was much better:: ALIX.2D13 system board - $115 CompactFlash card 4GB SLC - $20 Enclosure - $9 AC adapter - $13 Is this the same board and so forth that Arthur pointed me at below? My friend's name is Noah; what he saw was that the boad was not in stock and that it would not be restocked until 20dec. Because the 15th is better for Noah to drive down, I would like to have the stuff here when it's best for him. Figure ther have to be other vendors that sell this. OK, I'm in the UK as are these people I buy from, but they do prices in dollars as well as pounds and euros, and will ship to the US. They don't have a 2d13 at the moment but do have 2d3s in stock (the 2d13 has a battery and RTC extra, that's all). http://linitx.com/index.php They've got enclosures, but the power supplies are european plugs. However, they are universal (100-250V), so an EU-US adapter would work. I use a SanDisk CF card in mine, and the pfSense install worked like a dream. The only wrinkle is remembering to change the serial line speed from 19200 to 9600 baud before installing pfSense, as the serial bootloader likes 9600. I'd recommend getting pfSense: The Definite Guide as well http://www.amazon.com/pfSense-Definitive-Christopher-M-Buechler/dp/0979034280/ref=sr_1_1/177-9101540-7293707?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1290689178sr=1-1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 12:48:47PM +, Arthur Chance wrote: On 11/25/10 03:01, Gary Kline wrote: Folks (mostly Adam), Hang on a sec. I think I misread what my friend said. Following is a snip of what he said was good; that this was among the stuff he installed a few years back and now was much better:: ALIX.2D13 system board - $115 CompactFlash card 4GB SLC - $20 Enclosure - $9 AC adapter - $13 Is this the same board and so forth that Arthur pointed me at below? My friend's name is Noah; what he saw was that the boad was not in stock and that it would not be restocked until 20dec. Because the 15th is better for Noah to drive down, I would like to have the stuff here when it's best for him. Figure ther have to be other vendors that sell this. OK, I'm in the UK as are these people I buy from, but they do prices in dollars as well as pounds and euros, and will ship to the US. They don't have a 2d13 at the moment but do have 2d3s in stock (the 2d13 has a battery and RTC extra, that's all). http://linitx.com/index.php They've got enclosures, but the power supplies are european plugs. However, they are universal (100-250V), so an EU-US adapter would work. I use a SanDisk CF card in mine, and the pfSense install worked like a dream. The only wrinkle is remembering to change the serial line speed from 19200 to 9600 baud before installing pfSense, as the serial bootloader likes 9600. I'd recommend getting pfSense: The Definite Guide as well http://www.amazon.com/pfSense-Definitive-Christopher-M-Buechler/dp/0979034280/ref=sr_1_1/177-9101540-7293707?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1290689178sr=1-1 I _will_ order the Guide since I rely on pfSense ... What I ordered last night was the 6e1. The pcengines.com site pointed me to a netgate website here in the States. So: the entire kit is enroute; or will be soon. What I don't understand is the CF card and howto install pfSense. I'll re-read wherever I have to but some clues would certainly help. I installed pfSense by CDROM initially and figure this time the install would be done by thumb-drive. [?] Pointers, URLs welcome! gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On 11/25/10 18:22, Gary Kline wrote: [Huge snip] What I don't understand is the CF card and howto install pfSense. I'll re-read wherever I have to but some clues would certainly help. I installed pfSense by CDROM initially and figure this time the install would be done by thumb-drive. [?] Pointers, URLs welcome! If you're installing onto a CF card you want the embedded version. You download the version that matches the size of your CF card - there are 512M, 1G, 2G and 4G versions. I went for 4G because I had a convenient card lying around, but it's overkill. You decompress it and simply dd it onto the card (presuming you've got a normal Unix box). This link will help http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Installing_pfSense This is the embedded category page on the doc wiki http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Category:Embedded Then all you do is insert the card into the CF adapter on the Alix board, fire it up and point your web browser at it to do the initial set up. (Don't forget to change the serial line speed to 9600 beforehand.) The initial address is 192.168.1.1, username/password are admin/pfsense. Have fun. -- Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like. -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:16:01PM +, Arthur Chance wrote: On 11/25/10 18:22, Gary Kline wrote: [Huge snip] Super :-) What I don't understand is the CF card and howto install pfSense. I'll re-read wherever I have to but some clues would certainly help. I installed pfSense by CDROM initially and figure this time the install would be done by thumb-drive. [?] Pointers, URLs welcome! If you're installing onto a CF card you want the embedded version. You download the version that matches the size of your CF card - there are 512M, 1G, 2G and 4G versions. I went for 4G because I had a convenient card lying around, but it's overkill. You decompress it and simply dd it onto the card (presuming you've got a normal Unix box). This link will help I just took a second look at what I have coming in my ALIX.6E1 Kit. (Also found that 'CF' == Compact Flash; we've got enough abbrvs, all right. ) At any rate, here is what is in my 6e1 kit: * ALIX.6E1 system board (2/1/1/256/LX800) * Laser etched black aluminum enclosure with USB and antenna cutouts * Blank 2 GB Sandisk Ultra II CF Card * Standard 15V 1.25A 18W power supply (US plug style) * Ships unassembled If your 4G CF card was overkill, will my 2GB card be enough? If not I'll order a slave chip; or maybe a 4G flash card. Pasted immediately below is what I was pointed last last night. There were links like your URLs to the pfSense site. Hm. I have more research to do (looks like) to learn enough to __know__ was I'm doing. Or my friend and I. But then I've had pfSense going for about three years on severely antique hardware, no problem. http://store.netgate.com/ALIX6E1-Kit-Black-Unassembled-P183.aspx http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Installing_pfSense This is the embedded category page on the doc wiki http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Category:Embedded Then all you do is insert the card into the CF adapter on the Alix board, fire it up and point your web browser at it to do the initial set up. (Don't forget to change the serial line speed to 9600 beforehand.) The initial address is 192.168.1.1, username/password are admin/pfsense. Have fun. Last question[s]: is there a toggle somewhere to change the speed to 9600? When a friend helped save my network in JAn, 2008, we did it all my chat and maybe one phone call, so my memories of the details of getting pfSense set up the first time have faded ... . I have a 10.* internal network! Oboy. Well, here's hoping that a few FreeBSD types are around on 15th dec. FWIW, My chat is gdk98188 [at] yahoo gary PS: before my almost-disaster in 12/07 I used ifp and ifpw for years. The server also handled DHCP. THe reason I went with pfsense was to offload that stuff somewhere else; it seems apropos of the Unix philosophy: simplicity is better. -- Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like. -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. Dunno about having them on-board, but anything with a Poulsbo SCH should have two PCIe channels, each of which could be used for a NIC. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 01:26:53 -0800 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Dunno about having them on-board, but anything with a Poulsbo SCH should have two PCIe channels, each of which could be used for a NIC. You also get network cards with multiple ports which would work. e.g. http://reviews.cnet.com/adapters-nics/d-link-dfe-570tx/1707-3380_7-785663.html -- Bruce Cran ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On 24.11.2010 02:43, Gary Kline wrote: Maybe someone on-list can help me; after 5+ hours of clicking and typing, I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. I _thought_ I'd found a computer to replace to Kayak firewall [pfSense], but nada. Any wizards on this list have a clue? http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=proddescmaincat_no=388prod_no=1943 //Svein -- +---+--- /\ |Svein Skogen | sv...@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9| PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X|2020 Skedsmokorset | sv...@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | sv...@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listm...@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +---+--- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |sv...@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle:SS16503-RIPE +---+--- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
Bruce Cran writes: You also get network cards with multiple ports which would work. e.g. http://reviews.cnet.com/adapters-nics/d-link-dfe-570tx/1707-3380_7-785663.html The machine I'm typing on has a two port Intel Pro/1000-GT; I cannot recommend it highly enough. One caveat: the better multi-port cards can get expensive very fast. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
--On November 23, 2010 17:43:12 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Maybe someone on-list can help me; after 5+ hours of clicking and typing, I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. I _thought_ I'd found a computer to replace to Kayak firewall [pfSense], but nada. Any wizards on this list have a clue? -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service UnixJourney Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org I run pfSense on this http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPE.cfm?typ=HIPMI=Y in this http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/503/SC503L-200.cfm - glz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On 11/24/10 01:43, Gary Kline wrote: Maybe someone on-list can help me; after 5+ hours of clicking and typing, I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. I _thought_ I'd found a computer to replace to Kayak firewall [pfSense], but nada. Any wizards on this list have a clue? I don't know if your requirement for an Atom CPU is absolute, or you're just looking for a low power solution, but if it's the latter and 100Mb/s networking is fast enough, I use one of these http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d13.htm for my pfSense firewall. Three network interfaces so you have a DMZ, plus a hardware crypto accelerator for VPNs. Total power consumption measured at 5W. The alix2d2 is the 2 network port version. -- Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like. -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 04:03:56PM +, Arthur Chance wrote: On 11/24/10 01:43, Gary Kline wrote: Maybe someone on-list can help me; after 5+ hours of clicking and typing, I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. I _thought_ I'd found a computer to replace to Kayak firewall [pfSense], but nada. Any wizards on this list have a clue? I don't know if your requirement for an Atom CPU is absolute, or you're just looking for a low power solution, but if it's the latter and 100Mb/s networking is fast enough, I use one of these http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d13.htm for my pfSense firewall. Three network interfaces so you have a DMZ, plus a hardware crypto accelerator for VPNs. Total power consumption measured at 5W. The alix2d2 is the 2 network port version. Thanks to everyone indeed. The long-story-short is that just a few months ago I thought I *had* found a low-power [Atom] box with a dual-NIC for around $300. So I figured that since there was at least that one there might be others. Late last night my friend at the University figured that it wouldn't be that hard to build one from parts. [[ Sure, if you've got two good hands and a several hours, etc. ]] An Atom CPU is only the means to the end of finally having a low power config. Right now I'm probably burning 100w using the Kayak and an '05 40G drive. Any low-power box will work. Appreciate the help! gary -- Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like. -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Maybe someone on-list can help me; after 5+ hours of clicking and typing, I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. I _thought_ I'd found a computer to replace to Kayak firewall [pfSense], but nada. Any wizards on this list have a clue? I don't know if I'm a wizard, but FitPC2i might do you good. http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/specifications/ -- chs, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 02:23:33PM +0100, Goran Lowkrantz wrote: --On November 23, 2010 17:43:12 -0800 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Maybe someone on-list can help me; after 5+ hours of clicking and typing, I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. I _thought_ I'd found a computer to replace to Kayak firewall [pfSense], but nada. Any wizards on this list have a clue? -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service UnixJourney Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org I run pfSense on this http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPE.cfm?typ=HIPMI=Y in this http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/503/SC503L-200.cfm - glz Well, it looks like this one is it; it has the enclosure and so on with take more assembly that I myself can do, but not a fellow computer geek. Since I'm doing this as-if from scratch, what's the best way of getting pfSense installed? Can I do it somehow over the wire or use a thumb drive? What I understand is that the board won't be in stock until Dec 20th and I need it by the 15th, so should I just google around? (I'm imagine all the tens of millions of peiople who are shopping for a board that runs a firewall integrated with FrreeBSD:-) Anybody? -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Anybody? Gary, in case you didn't catch it the pcengines link already given to you is low power setup with comsumption comparable or better than an Atom. It's also been tested with FreeBSD and pfSense according to the manufacturers site. There's nothing wrong with Atom, but different models have different chipsets/NIC's and there may be a possibility of unsupported hardware. Perhaps it might be easier for you to go with a known commodity. pfSense documentation is offered on their website as well as community support. I suggest you start there. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 08:14:01PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Anybody? Gary, in case you didn't catch it the pcengines link already given to you is low power setup with comsumption comparable or better than an Atom. It's also been tested with FreeBSD and pfSense according to the manufacturers site. There's nothing wrong with Atom, but different models have different chipsets/NIC's and there may be a possibility of unsupported hardware. Perhaps it might be easier for you to go with a known commodity. pfSense documentation is offered on their website as well as community support. I suggest you start there. Thanks Adam, I forwarded the other model to my friend at the U and didn't hear back. --Of course, for lots of the civilian class, it is almost T'giving :-) Good thing there is ~three weeks left... . gary -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
Folks (mostly Adam), Hang on a sec. I think I misread what my friend said. Following is a snip of what he said was good; that this was among the stuff he installed a few years back and now was much better:: ALIX.2D13 system board - $115 CompactFlash card 4GB SLC - $20 Enclosure - $9 AC adapter - $13 Is this the same board and so forth that Arthur pointed me at below? My friend's name is Noah; what he saw was that the boad was not in stock and that it would not be restocked until 20dec. Because the 15th is better for Noah to drive down, I would like to have the stuff here when it's best for him. Figure ther have to be other vendors that sell this. gary On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 04:03:56PM +, Arthur Chance wrote: On 11/24/10 01:43, Gary Kline wrote: Maybe someone on-list can help me; after 5+ hours of clicking and typing, I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. I _thought_ I'd found a computer to replace to Kayak firewall [pfSense], but nada. Any wizards on this list have a clue? I don't know if your requirement for an Atom CPU is absolute, or you're just looking for a low power solution, but if it's the latter and 100Mb/s networking is fast enough, I use one of these http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d13.htm for my pfSense firewall. Three network interfaces so you have a DMZ, plus a hardware crypto accelerator for VPNs. Total power consumption measured at 5W. The alix2d2 is the 2 network port version. -- Although the wombat is real and the dragon is not, few know what a wombat looks like, but everyone knows what a dragon looks like. -- Avram Davidson, _Adventures in Unhistory_ -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Folks (mostly Adam), Hang on a sec. I think I misread what my friend said. Following is a snip of what he said was good; that this was among the stuff he installed a few years back and now was much better:: ALIX.2D13 system board - $115 CompactFlash card 4GB SLC - $20 Enclosure - $9 AC adapter - $13 Is this the same board and so forth that Arthur pointed me at below? My friend's name is Noah; what he saw was that the boad was not in stock and that it would not be restocked until 20dec. Because the 15th is better for Noah to drive down, I would like to have the stuff here when it's best for him. Figure ther have to be other vendors that sell this. Yes, but if you browse the manufacturer you'll see that there are other boards in-stock which meet your requirements like this one: http://www.pcengines.ch/alix6e1.htm Doesn't have battery but that's easy enough to address around and less to go wrong. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
Maybe someone on-list can help me; after 5+ hours of clicking and typing, I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. I _thought_ I'd found a computer to replace to Kayak firewall [pfSense], but nada. Any wizards on this list have a clue? You'd probably have to build one yourself out of parts. Any respectable computer shop will have Mini-ITX Atom motherboards and cases, just add another NIC to that along with memory/drives and you're done. Regards, -- Matt Emmerton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:45:41PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Folks (mostly Adam), Hang on a sec. I think I misread what my friend said. Following is a snip of what he said was good; that this was among the stuff he installed a few years back and now was much better:: ALIX.2D13 system board - $115 CompactFlash card 4GB SLC - $20 Enclosure - $9 AC adapter - $13 Is this the same board and so forth that Arthur pointed me at below? My friend's name is Noah; what he saw was that the boad was not in stock and that it would not be restocked until 20dec. Because the 15th is better for Noah to drive down, I would like to have the stuff here when it's best for him. Figure ther have to be other vendors that sell this. Yes, but if you browse the manufacturer you'll see that there are other boards in-stock which meet your requirements like this one: http://www.pcengines.ch/alix6e1.htm Doesn't have battery but that's easy enough to address around and less to go wrong. all right. the thing is that here i don't know the requirments. if 6e1 is better, that good. -- Adam Vande More -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
foo; no such thing as a dual-nic atom firewall
Maybe someone on-list can help me; after 5+ hours of clicking and typing, I can't find an atom cpu computer with dual NICs. I _thought_ I'd found a computer to replace to Kayak firewall [pfSense], but nada. Any wizards on this list have a clue? -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix Journey Toward the Dawn, E-Book: http://www.thought.org The 7.97a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
Tom Worster wrote: On 9/16/09 3:19 PM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Tom Worster wrote: is there a general shell syntax that can be used to pass arguments to a daemon that you're starting with the /etc/rc.d/foo start command? If you're starting service foo, then you should be able to define command arguments by setting foo_flags=-a -b -c. This is a convention, and particular services may use several more specific variables to build a command line or may simply ignore any flags variable completely, so you'll have to check each case individually. for example, how does one start sshd using /etc/rc.d/sshd and pass it '-o X11Forwarding=no' without touching a config file? In this case, setting sshd_flags will work as sshd uses the default rc start function. hi matthew, i tried this and couldn't make it work before i emailed my question. then mel answered that the /etc/rc.d/foo scripts ignore environment. and then, looking closer at man pages, i got the impression that perhaps only /etc/rc uses the foo_flags variables when it invokes /etc/rc.d/foo scripts. Uh, yeah. My tortured mental processes had somehow concluded that /etc/rc.conf *wasn't* a config file and then I pretty much forgot to add 'in /etc/rc.conf' at the crucial point in what I wrote. I don't think your request is possible without editing at least one file under /etc Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. Flat 3 7 Priory Courtyard PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW, UK signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 21:18:03 Tom Worster wrote: On 9/16/09 2:37 PM, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Wednesday 16 September 2009 20:21:40 Chris Cowart wrote: Tom Worster wrote: thanks, Mel, that's good to know. i think your suggestion of modifying rc.conf will turn out to be a tidy solution for me. You could also just put: sshd_flags=-o X11Forwarding=no into your /etc/rc.conf file. What he wants is passing arguments without touching config files, which I find myself needing sometimes as well, on machines where static partitions are mounted read-only + kern.secure_level. that's right. when i read in 11.7 of the handbook: Since the rc.d system is primarily intended to start/stop services at system startup/shutdown time, ... i thought: maybe i'm making things hard by trying to use rc.d scripts when i could just execute the daemon's binary. One downside I forgot to mention: You do open yourself up now to SSHD_FLAGS=-o AllowRoot=yes, so you may need to complicate the logic a bit more, by sanitizing SSHD_FLAGS. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 07:14:29PM +0200, Mel Flynn typed: On Wednesday 16 September 2009 21:18:03 Tom Worster wrote: On 9/16/09 2:37 PM, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Wednesday 16 September 2009 20:21:40 Chris Cowart wrote: Tom Worster wrote: thanks, Mel, that's good to know. i think your suggestion of modifying rc.conf will turn out to be a tidy solution for me. You could also just put: sshd_flags=-o X11Forwarding=no into your /etc/rc.conf file. What he wants is passing arguments without touching config files, which I find myself needing sometimes as well, on machines where static partitions are mounted read-only + kern.secure_level. that's right. when i read in 11.7 of the handbook: Since the rc.d system is primarily intended to start/stop services at system startup/shutdown time, ... i thought: maybe i'm making things hard by trying to use rc.d scripts when i could just execute the daemon's binary. One downside I forgot to mention: You do open yourself up now to SSHD_FLAGS=-o AllowRoot=yes, so you may need to complicate the logic a bit more, by sanitizing SSHD_FLAGS. Please explain how this can be exploited by a non-root user? Ruben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
On Thursday 17 September 2009 19:55:33 Ruben de Groot wrote: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 07:14:29PM +0200, Mel Flynn typed: On Wednesday 16 September 2009 21:18:03 Tom Worster wrote: On 9/16/09 2:37 PM, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Wednesday 16 September 2009 20:21:40 Chris Cowart wrote: Tom Worster wrote: thanks, Mel, that's good to know. i think your suggestion of modifying rc.conf will turn out to be a tidy solution for me. You could also just put: sshd_flags=-o X11Forwarding=no into your /etc/rc.conf file. What he wants is passing arguments without touching config files, which I find myself needing sometimes as well, on machines where static partitions are mounted read-only + kern.secure_level. that's right. when i read in 11.7 of the handbook: Since the rc.d system is primarily intended to start/stop services at system startup/shutdown time, ... i thought: maybe i'm making things hard by trying to use rc.d scripts when i could just execute the daemon's binary. One downside I forgot to mention: You do open yourself up now to SSHD_FLAGS=-o AllowRoot=yes, so you may need to complicate the logic a bit more, by sanitizing SSHD_FLAGS. Please explain how this can be exploited by a non-root user? By adding this to .profile of compromised wheel account and waiting for him to run sudo -E or using an older version of sudo. Yes, it's an unlikely path. More to the point, it defeats having ro mounted /etc + secure level, since no reboot is required to modify the running sshd, so you're compromising your failsafe. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
is there a general shell syntax that can be used to pass arguments to a daemon that you're starting with the /etc/rc.d/foo start command? for example, how does one start sshd using /etc/rc.d/sshd and pass it '-o X11Forwarding=no' without touching a config file? tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 18:45:29 Tom Worster wrote:
is there a general shell syntax that can be used to pass arguments to a
daemon that you're starting with the /etc/rc.d/foo start command?
for example, how does one start sshd using /etc/rc.d/sshd and pass it
'-o X11Forwarding=no' without touching a config file?
You don't. Defaults are set in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, overridden in
/etc/rc.conf. Unless you add the logic yourself in /etc/rc.conf, the
environment is not looked at.
So this means a one-time edit of /etc/rc.conf:
if test -n ${SSHD_FLAGS}; then
sshd_flags=${SSHD_FLAGS}
else
sshd_flags=${sshd_flags}
fi
Then start with SSHD_FLAGS=-o X11Forwarding=no /etc/rc.d/sshd start
But this is specific for sshd, as it supports _flags. There's no generic way
to do this.
--
Mel
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Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
On 9/16/09 1:35 PM, Mel Flynn
mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote:
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 18:45:29 Tom Worster wrote:
is there a general shell syntax that can be used to pass arguments to a
daemon that you're starting with the /etc/rc.d/foo start command?
for example, how does one start sshd using /etc/rc.d/sshd and pass it
'-o X11Forwarding=no' without touching a config file?
You don't. Defaults are set in /etc/defaults/rc.conf, overridden in
/etc/rc.conf. Unless you add the logic yourself in /etc/rc.conf, the
environment is not looked at.
So this means a one-time edit of /etc/rc.conf:
if test -n ${SSHD_FLAGS}; then
sshd_flags=${SSHD_FLAGS}
else
sshd_flags=${sshd_flags}
fi
Then start with SSHD_FLAGS=-o X11Forwarding=no /etc/rc.d/sshd start
But this is specific for sshd, as it supports _flags. There's no generic way
to do this.
thanks, Mel, that's good to know.
i think your suggestion of modifying rc.conf will turn out to be a tidy
solution for me.
tom
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Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
Tom Worster wrote: thanks, Mel, that's good to know. i think your suggestion of modifying rc.conf will turn out to be a tidy solution for me. You could also just put: sshd_flags=-o X11Forwarding=no into your /etc/rc.conf file. Pretty much all of the rc.d scripts support the use of NAME_flags being defined in /etc/rc.conf, which are passed as extra commandline arguments to the daemon. You should generally check /etc/defaults/rc.conf to see what you might be clobbering. A small number of scripts may override this feature from the library, breaking this method, but it's pretty widely supported. -- Chris Cowart Network Technical Lead Network Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley pgpdLHTVAM3EC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 20:21:40 Chris Cowart wrote: Tom Worster wrote: thanks, Mel, that's good to know. i think your suggestion of modifying rc.conf will turn out to be a tidy solution for me. You could also just put: sshd_flags=-o X11Forwarding=no into your /etc/rc.conf file. What he wants is passing arguments without touching config files, which I find myself needing sometimes as well, on machines where static partitions are mounted read-only + kern.secure_level. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
On 9/16/09 2:37 PM, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Wednesday 16 September 2009 20:21:40 Chris Cowart wrote: Tom Worster wrote: thanks, Mel, that's good to know. i think your suggestion of modifying rc.conf will turn out to be a tidy solution for me. You could also just put: sshd_flags=-o X11Forwarding=no into your /etc/rc.conf file. What he wants is passing arguments without touching config files, which I find myself needing sometimes as well, on machines where static partitions are mounted read-only + kern.secure_level. that's right. when i read in 11.7 of the handbook: Since the rc.d system is primarily intended to start/stop services at system startup/shutdown time, ... i thought: maybe i'm making things hard by trying to use rc.d scripts when i could just execute the daemon's binary. an advantage i imagined of using rc.d is it starts the service with the same config as at boot so i don't have to remember any config items that might not be in the daemons config files. maybe all config _should_ be in the daemon's config files but then i _might_ have been both lazy and forgetful. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
Tom Worster wrote: is there a general shell syntax that can be used to pass arguments to a daemon that you're starting with the /etc/rc.d/foo start command? If you're starting service foo, then you should be able to define command arguments by setting foo_flags=-a -b -c. This is a convention, and particular services may use several more specific variables to build a command line or may simply ignore any flags variable completely, so you'll have to check each case individually. for example, how does one start sshd using /etc/rc.d/sshd and pass it '-o X11Forwarding=no' without touching a config file? In this case, setting sshd_flags will work as sshd uses the default rc start function. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: passing options thru '/etc/rc.d/foo start'
On 9/16/09 3:19 PM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: Tom Worster wrote: is there a general shell syntax that can be used to pass arguments to a daemon that you're starting with the /etc/rc.d/foo start command? If you're starting service foo, then you should be able to define command arguments by setting foo_flags=-a -b -c. This is a convention, and particular services may use several more specific variables to build a command line or may simply ignore any flags variable completely, so you'll have to check each case individually. for example, how does one start sshd using /etc/rc.d/sshd and pass it '-o X11Forwarding=no' without touching a config file? In this case, setting sshd_flags will work as sshd uses the default rc start function. hi matthew, i tried this and couldn't make it work before i emailed my question. then mel answered that the /etc/rc.d/foo scripts ignore environment. and then, looking closer at man pages, i got the impression that perhaps only /etc/rc uses the foo_flags variables when it invokes /etc/rc.d/foo scripts. tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Foo***-lite ?
People, I hope there are some kde or gnome wizards around to give me a few clues about tuning my gnome|kde- lite window managers. So far I have the regular gnome2 and KDE3 desktops going on my test box quite well. kde at least gives users the opportunity to set the level of eye-candy from low to high. I have not seen anything equivalent for gnome. How do I test gnome2-lite and kde-lite? I've found startkde, but no startkdelite. I've found the gnome-session binary, but no gnomelite-session. If I need kde|gnome2- lite.desktop files, please clue me in. Otherwise, how do I instiantiate these lite flavor desktops? thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Foo***-lite ?
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:57:30 -0800 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People, I hope there are some kde or gnome wizards around to give me a few clues about tuning my gnome|kde- lite window managers. So far I have the regular gnome2 and KDE3 desktops going on my test box quite well. kde at least gives users the opportunity to set the level of eye-candy from low to high. I have not seen anything equivalent for gnome. As far as I know, GNOME doesn't really have eye candy the same way KDE does (there are no fading menus, bouncy transparent cursors, etc.). How do I test gnome2-lite and kde-lite? I've found startkde, but no startkdelite. I've found the gnome-session binary, but no gnomelite-session. If I need kde|gnome2- lite.desktop files, please clue me in. Otherwise, how do I instiantiate these lite flavor desktops? I think you've misunderstood what the -lite versions are. From ports/x11/gnome2-lite/pkg-descr: This metaport installs the pieces of the GNOME 2 desktop that are needed to provide a functional desktop. x11/gnome2 contains the full version of the GNOME 2 desktop environment. In other words, it's the same GNOME, but installing the gnome2-lite port doesn't install extras, like games. GNOME is invoked the same way regardless of which port is used. I believe that the kde-lite port is the same. thanks much, gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix -- Nick Withers email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.nickwithers.com Mobile: +61 414 397 446 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Foo***-lite ?
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 11:36:39AM +1100, Nick Withers wrote: On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:57:30 -0800 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People, I hope there are some kde or gnome wizards around to give me a few clues about tuning my gnome|kde- lite window managers. So far I have the regular gnome2 and KDE3 desktops going on my test box quite well. kde at least gives users the opportunity to set the level of eye-candy from low to high. I have not seen anything equivalent for gnome. As far as I know, GNOME doesn't really have eye candy the same way KDE does (there are no fading menus, bouncy transparent cursors, etc.). You may well be rght since I've only seen the set-option on KDE. How do I test gnome2-lite and kde-lite? I've found startkde, but no startkdelite. I've found the gnome-session binary, but no gnomelite-session. If I need kde|gnome2- lite.desktop files, please clue me in. Otherwise, how do I instiantiate these lite flavor desktops? I think you've misunderstood what the -lite versions are. From ports/x11/gnome2-lite/pkg-descr: This metaport installs the pieces of the GNOME 2 desktop that are needed to provide a functional desktop. x11/gnome2 contains the full version of the GNOME 2 desktop environment. In other words, it's the same GNOME, but installing the gnome2-lite port doesn't install extras, like games. GNOME is invoked the same way regardless of which port is used. I believe that the kde-lite port is the same. I see (*now* :-). Well, since I'm not much of a gamer, it's not a problem. I did see that gnome-light installed only part of the suite. That should've been a clue. I was expecting some kernel/apps wizard to tune things so that, say, the calender would be niced down to a lower prio and the xterm/terminal/ and-or vi and broswers would have been set to a higher priority. That is my next task, hopefully without getting too deeply into the C/++ code. I've test added things like xload and xclock and will see if the session managers are savvy enough to accept a nice -17 /usr/bin/program line in there. gnome2 at least has a run priority from 0 to 50 or the like. That may be worth looking at. tx for your insights, gary -- Nick Withers email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.nickwithers.com Mobile: +61 414 397 446 -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How do I get pkg_info and pkg_delete to stop telling me that my 3rd party app has no origin recorded? I've added the two packages to HOLD_PKGS in pkgtools.conf and put +IGNOREME in the package directories but pkg_delete still bitches every time I do anything with ports/package system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make world DESTDIR=/foo does not work under 5.3-RELEASE on i386 or amd64
On Nov 8, 2004, at 3:52 PM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On 2004-11-08 15:08, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Nov 8, 2004, at 10:11 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
I haven't tried make world in a long time, but I recently
installed a
clean snapshot of CURRENT using a slightly different approach:
# cd /usr/src
# make buildworld buildkernel
# make DESTDIR=/mnt installkernel installworld
Unfortunately, I still get an error. A different one. I can do it
without DESTDIR= and update my actual system, but to make a jail,
which requires DESTDIR, I get this error (when splitting up buildworld
and installworld DESTDIR=)
Ah, sorry about that. My fault for not mentioning all the details.
I did use the above sequence of commands, but only after recreating the
entire directory structure with mtree(8), i.e.:
# cd /mnt
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist
# cd /mnt/var
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist
# cd /mnt/usr
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist
# cd /mnt/usr/include
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist
# cd /mnt/usr/local
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist
The error you see below is probably a result of the failure to locate a
${DESTDIR}/usr/include/bluetooth directory.
Hi. I did go about trying this today. However, after doing the above,
I still get the same error as listed below.
best
Chad
hostname# make buildworld
[--- stuff ---]
hostname# make installworld DESTDIR=/local/jails/master
[--- stuff ---]
cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444
ufs/ffs/*.h /local/jails/master/usr/include/ufs/ffs
cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444
ufs/ufs/*.h /local/jails/master/usr/include/ufs/ufs
cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444
netgraph/bluetooth/include/*.h
/local/jails/master/usr/include/netgraph/bluetooth/include
install:
/local/jails/master/usr/include/netgraph/bluetooth/include/
ng_bluetooth.h: No such file or directory
*** Error code 71
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make world DESTDIR=/foo still not working under 5.3-STABLE
I can do make buildworld make installworld without the DESTDIR and it works fine but to build a jail I do make world DESTDIR=/foo and I still get the following problem (as do many others it appears). This is under 5.3-STABLE from cvsup on November 16 cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 netgraph/bluetooth/include/*.h /local/jails/master/usr/include/netgraph/bluetooth/include install: /local/jails/master/usr/include/netgraph/bluetooth/include/ ng_bluetooth.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/include. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. myhost# Any help would be appreciated thanks Chad ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make world DESTDIR=/foo does not work under 5.3-RELEASE on i386 or amd64
On 2004-11-08 15:08, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 8, 2004, at 10:11 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
I haven't tried make world in a long time, but I recently installed a
clean snapshot of CURRENT using a slightly different approach:
# cd /usr/src
# make buildworld buildkernel
# make DESTDIR=/mnt installkernel installworld
Unfortunately, I still get an error. A different one. I can do it
without DESTDIR= and update my actual system, but to make a jail,
which requires DESTDIR, I get this error (when splitting up buildworld
and installworld DESTDIR=)
Ah, sorry about that. My fault for not mentioning all the details.
I did use the above sequence of commands, but only after recreating the
entire directory structure with mtree(8), i.e.:
# cd /mnt
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.root.dist
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist
# cd /mnt/var
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist
# cd /mnt/usr
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist
# cd /mnt/usr/include
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist
# cd /mnt/usr/local
# mtree -deU -f /etc/mtree/BSD.local.dist
The error you see below is probably a result of the failure to locate a
${DESTDIR}/usr/include/bluetooth directory.
hostname# make buildworld
[--- stuff ---]
hostname# make installworld DESTDIR=/local/jails/master
[--- stuff ---]
cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444
ufs/ffs/*.h /local/jails/master/usr/include/ufs/ffs
cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444
ufs/ufs/*.h /local/jails/master/usr/include/ufs/ufs
cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444
netgraph/bluetooth/include/*.h
/local/jails/master/usr/include/netgraph/bluetooth/include
install:
/local/jails/master/usr/include/netgraph/bluetooth/include/
ng_bluetooth.h: No such file or directory
*** Error code 71
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make world DESTDIR=/foo does not work under 5.3-RELEASE on i386 or amd64
make world DESTDIR=/foo or make buildworld DESTDIR=/foo does not work on either my i386 or amd64 systems after a cvsup to 5.3-RELEASE and native build. If you leave off the DESTDIR and build for the running machine, it works fine. And the DESTDIR worked fine under beta7 (and possibly under RC1) Here is what I get on either machine. myhost# make world DESTDIR=/local/jails/test -- make world started on Mon Nov 8 10:55:55 MST 2004 -- -- Rebuilding the temporary build tree -- rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/i386 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include/c++/3.3 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include/sys mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/libexec mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/dict mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX100 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX100-12 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX75 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX75-12 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devascii mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devcp1047 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devdvi mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devhtml mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devkoi8-r mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlatin1 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlbp mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlj4 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devps mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devutf8 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac/mdoc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac/mm mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/lib mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/compat/aout mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/ldscripts mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/misc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/snmp/defs mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/snmp/mibs mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /dev/null ln -sf /usr/src/sys /usr/obj/usr/src/i386 -- stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims -- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 DESTDIR= INSTALL=sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/ legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/ sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 MAKEFLAGS=-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk DESTDIR=/local/jails/test -m /usr/src/share/mk /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make -f Makefile.inc1 BOOTSTRAPPING=503001 -DNOHTML -DNOINFO -DNOLINT -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS legacy === tools/build /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/tools/build created for /usr/src/tools/build cd /usr/src/tools/build; /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make buildincludes; /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make installincludes rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include /usr/src/tools/build/dummy.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/tools/build/dummy.c building static egacy library ranlib libegacy.a sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libegacy.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib -- stage 1.2: bootstrap tools -- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 DESTDIR= INSTALL=sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/ legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/ sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 MAKEFLAGS=-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk DESTDIR=/local/jails/test -m /usr/src/share/mk /usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make -f Makefile.inc1 BOOTSTRAPPING=503001 -DNOHTML -DNOINFO -DNOLINT -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS bootstrap-tools === games/fortune/strfile /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile created for /usr/src/games/fortune/strfile rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend
Re: make world DESTDIR=/foo does not work under 5.3-RELEASE on i386 or amd64
On 2004-11-08 09:59, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: make world DESTDIR=/foo or make buildworld DESTDIR=/foo does not work on either my i386 or amd64 systems after a cvsup to 5.3-RELEASE and native build. If you leave off the DESTDIR and build for the running machine, it works fine. And the DESTDIR worked fine under beta7 (and possibly under RC1) I haven't tried make world in a long time, but I recently installed a clean snapshot of CURRENT using a slightly different approach: # cd /usr/src # make buildworld buildkernel # make DESTDIR=/mnt installkernel installworld HTH, Giorgos ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make world DESTDIR=/foo does not work under 5.3-RELEASE on i386 or amd64
Hi On Nov 8, 2004, at 10:11 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2004-11-08 09:59, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: make world DESTDIR=/foo or make buildworld DESTDIR=/foo does not work on either my i386 or amd64 systems after a cvsup to 5.3-RELEASE and native build. If you leave off the DESTDIR and build for the running machine, it works fine. And the DESTDIR worked fine under beta7 (and possibly under RC1) I haven't tried make world in a long time, but I recently installed a clean snapshot of CURRENT using a slightly different approach: # cd /usr/src # make buildworld buildkernel # make DESTDIR=/mnt installkernel installworld I guess I will try this... Thanks. make buildworld DESTDIR= shows the same problem btw. This is for creating the jail system... Thanks Chad HTH, Giorgos ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make world DESTDIR=/foo does not work under 5.3-RELEASE on i386 or amd64
On Nov 8, 2004, at 10:11 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2004-11-08 09:59, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: make world DESTDIR=/foo or make buildworld DESTDIR=/foo does not work on either my i386 or amd64 systems after a cvsup to 5.3-RELEASE and native build. If you leave off the DESTDIR and build for the running machine, it works fine. And the DESTDIR worked fine under beta7 (and possibly under RC1) I haven't tried make world in a long time, but I recently installed a clean snapshot of CURRENT using a slightly different approach: # cd /usr/src # make buildworld buildkernel # make DESTDIR=/mnt installkernel installworld Unfortunately, I still get an error. A different one. I can do it without DESTDIR= and update my actual system, but to make a jail, which requires DESTDIR, I get this error (when splitting up buildworld and installworld DESTDIR=) hostname# make buildworld . . stuff . hostname# make installworld DESTDIR=/local/jails/master . . stuff . . cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 ufs/ffs/*.h /local/jails/master/usr/include/ufs/ffs cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 ufs/ufs/*.h /local/jails/master/usr/include/ufs/ufs cd /usr/src/include/../sys; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 netgraph/bluetooth/include/*.h /local/jails/master/usr/include/netgraph/bluetooth/include install: /local/jails/master/usr/include/netgraph/bluetooth/include/ ng_bluetooth.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 Stop in /usr/src/include. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. hostname# ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: set fnord foo
In the last episode (Oct 01), Roman Neuhauser said: yeah, i figured out i made a complete fool of myself after a bit more rtfming and googling (FOLDOC). now if i only knew why oh why is mkinstalldirs written this way. I believe it's a workaround for shells that remove empty `` expressions. Fnord guarantees that the set command sees at least one argument. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
set fnord foo
hi there. could anyone tell me what $subject does? i can't find any explanation. man pages for sh(1) (freebsd) and bash(1) (linux) don't mention fnord. what does it do? -- begin 666 nonexistent.vbs FreeBSD 4.7-RC 12:42PM up 12 days, 19:57, 15 users, load averages: 0.02, 0.05, 0.08 end To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
