Re: [Freedos-devel] A little message

[Henrique Peron]

"Feliz 2016" for portuguese speakers, "Happy 2016" for everybody else!

Henrique

Em 01/01/2016 11:45, Aitor Santamaría escreveu:
The best wishes for everyone in this list for the forthcomming (now 
current) 2016.

( Feliz 2016 for Spanish speakers).

May this symbolic year (16 for a mostly 16-bit operating system) be a 
good FreeDOS year.


Aitor



On 1 January 2016 at 11:53, Maarten Vermeulen > wrote:


Wow, that should be our slogan! :D

Van: Mercury Thirteen 
Verzonden: ‎1-‎1-‎2016 09:01
Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers.

Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] A little message

Why did he do it? because FREEDOS! :D

On 12/31/2015 7:44 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote:


Yeah.I used FreeDOS to hack the Matrix to access the webcam.Hahah. :)

On Dec 31, 2015 6:39 PM, "Maarten Vermeulen" mailto:netraa...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It is 1 january here (00:36). So happy new year :)

The time in the Netherlands is about 6 hours later then in
New York.

Maarten

Van: JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU 
Verzonden: ‎1-‎1-‎2016 00:14
Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS
developers. 
Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] A little message

See you guys next year! (Hah...hah..hah?)

On Dec 31, 2015 10:29 AM, "Mercury Thirteen"
mailto:mercury0x0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Then a happy New Year to all those of us who are still
stuck in last
year! :P :)

On 12/31/2015 9:39 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> I fear you are slightly too late - there are many
places in the world
> where it's 2016 already - Most of Australia, some parts
of Russia, New
> Zealand, and a few more. :)
>
> Mateusz
>
>
>
> On 31/12/2015 15:09, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote:
>> Yes,tonight is New Years Eve!Stay up late!Party!Watch
the balldrop!I you
>> all have a wonderful (and crazy) evening!
>>
>> -Jayden
>>
>> *Crazy meaning have a fun party
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Maarten Vermeulen
mailto:netraa...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>>  And a happy new year! :)
>>
>>
>>


>>  Van: JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU
>
>>  Verzonden: ‎26-‎12-‎2015 16:07
>>
>>  Aan: Technical discussion and questions for
FreeDOS developers.
>>  >
>>  Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] A little message
>>
>>  I recently got my band director to let us play
Sleigh Ride.The
>>  trumpets enjoyed making the horse noises.
>>  On Dec 26, 2015 3:19 AM, "Maarten Vermeulen"
mailto:netraa...@gmail.com>
>>  >> wrote:
>>   >
>>   > For those who like it, a Dutch christmas song.
>>   > 'midden in de winternacht' it's name. This is
one of the first
>>  christmas songs you learn in dutch, because this
one is always used
>>  on school.
>>   >
>>   > So here is it, 'midden in de winternacht'.
>>   >
>>   > https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lOyEmKJozc0
>>   >
>>   > Of course you are allowed to use google
translate :)
>>   > 
>>   > Van: Rugxulo
>>   > Verzonden: ‎26-‎12-‎2015 06:09
>>   > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for
FreeDOS developers.
>>   > Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] A little message
>>   >
>>   > Hi,
>>   >
>>   > On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Maarten
Vermeulen
>>  mailto:netraa...@gmail.com>

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,


PPS: Maybe the CPI directory of FreeDOS could ship with a TXT file

giving a list of which fonts can be found in which CPX or CPI file?



There are four TXT files in the CPIDOS package with plenty of 
information; I'm available for further explanation, if necessary.


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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Steve,

cp437 does not cover spanish because it needs uppercase-acute-accented 
vowels (other than "É/é"), as does portuguese and many other romance 
languages, such as catalan, which you mentioned. Providing "Ñ/ñ", "¡/¿", 
"«/»" and "ª/º" is not enough.


Dutch is not properly handled by any MS-DOS/IBM-DOS codepage, ISO 8859-x 
or any other 8-bit encoding I've seen so far because they all lack the 
"IJ/ij" ligature (apart from that, there's no problem). It is encoded on 
Unicode for compatibility with old character tables, therefore I assume 
that there's some platform out there where a dutch keyboard layout can 
type it.


Henrique

Em 19/12/2015 11:08, Steve Nickolas escreveu:

On Sat, 19 Dec 2015, Henrique Peron wrote:


Hi Paul,

CP437 is very weak. It only covers german, swedish and finnish. It is
only a "copy" of the table of characters available on those old CGA
cards.

Should cover Spanish and Dutch too.  I think it also covers Catalan.


There's a catch here: MS-DOS only provided cp850 for western Europe;
IBM-DOS also provided cp858, which is "cp850+Euro sign", that's why it
is the official codepage for western european languages on FreeDOS.

Only starting in 1998, though.

-uso.

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Re: [Freedos-devel] FDI Additional Languages

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Paul,

CP437 is very weak. It only covers german, swedish and finnish. It is 
only a "copy" of the table of characters available on those old CGA 
cards.All the rest on that codepage covers linedraw, block, shade, 
logical/mathematical, currency characters and a few greek letters (for 
mathematical purposes). Yes, it does provide "Ç/ç", "Ñ/ñ", "É/é" and 
"Æ/æ"... which are letters used on languages that require other 
upper-/lowercase accented letters and a few other lowercase-only 
accented letters, but you won't be able to perfectly type any language 
that way.

On those days, there were alternate versions of cp437 for other 
languages --- perhaps they were also "copies" of tables of characters 
hardcoded into CGA cards sold on particular markets: cp860 for 
portuguese, cp854 for spanish (which I know to exist but I didn't find 
an image of it yet), and many others.

Then, we had the multilingual codepages: cp850 for western Europe, cp852 
for central Europe, cp855 for eastern Europe and a few others.

There's a catch here: MS-DOS only provided cp850 for western Europe; 
IBM-DOS also provided cp858, which is "cp850+Euro sign", that's why it 
is the official codepage for western european languages on FreeDOS.

Ideally, cp859 would be the official codepage for western european 
languages because it is "cp850+Euro sign+Šš/Žž", used in estonian and 
few proper names (country names, etc.) and loanwords in finnish and 
"Œ/œ/Ÿ" to finally and perfectly handle french but it happens that many 
keyboard layouts have labeled characters on them which were dismissed on 
cp859 to make room for those extra letters.

(On FreeDOS, cp859 is available and can be used with many keyboard layouts.)

Sorry for typing too much. I always get carried away when talking about 
it. :)

Yes, DOSBOX handles codepages perfectly.

Henrique


Em 18/12/2015 01:26, Paul Dufresne escreveu:
> I am not sure we can expect most languages could be encoded in CP437
> (Code page 437 [IBM]).
> Maybe a file in CP437 should have something like "CP=850" and then the
> 3 others file would be encoded in that specific code page. Then the
> installer could use chcp to select the codepage before installation.
> Does Dosbox support well codepage other 437?
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Re: [Freedos-devel] [Spam] Creating a code page for Proto-Slavic and Proto-Indo-European languages.

[Henrique Peron]

Hello Mr. Wong,

According to Wikipedia on Proto-Slavic, “As with most other 
proto-languages, no attested writings have been found”. Furthermore, 
both cyrillic letters you mentioned are available on any cyrillic codepage.

I have also found an extensive article on the Proto-Indo-European 
language; this time, there wasn't even a mention to some sort of writing.

If you found another source on both languages, please provide me with 
their character repertoire. I would also like to know which keyboard 
layouts would you like to see benefitted from the creation of such 
codepages.

Thank you,
Henrique Peron

Em 19/06/2013 07:04, Tae Wong escreveu:
> You are knowing of creating a code page for Proto-Slavic and
> Proto-Indo-European languages. Proto-Slavic requires the Cyrillic ъ
> and ь.
>
> A little update: the English translation of Pirate Bay had a typo and
> is missing the r on the word your.
> No hits. Try adding an asterisk in you search phrase.
>
> The Better-Explorer dot com site now has limited access.
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Re: [Freedos-devel] [Spam] Re: Problem with batch installer for keyboards

[Henrique Peron]

Hallo Herr Ehlert,

happy new year!
Feliz Ano Novo! (port.)
Gutes neues Jahr!
Gelukkig Nieuwjaar!

Henrique

:)

Em 07/01/2013 15:02, Tom Ehlert escreveu:
> Hallo Herr Bernd Blaauw,
>
> am 7. Januar 2013 um 18:33 Bernd Blaauw schrieb:
>
>> Op 7-1-2013 10:18, Henrique Peron schreef:
>>> Hallo Bernd,
>>>
>>> happy new year! :)
>>>
>>> Henrique
>> Happy New Year to you as well Henrique, and thanks for reminding me.
> Happy new year to Bernd, Henrique
>
> now lets see how long this thread will grow ;)
>
> Tom
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Problem with batch installer for keyboards

[Henrique Peron]

Hallo Bernd,

happy new year! :)

Henrique

Em 13/12/2012 15:40, Bernd Blaauw escreveu:
> Op 13-12-2012 17:43, Henrique Peron schreef:
>
>> Again, I ask to whoever is in charge for the installer to fix it. I will
>> be always available to help, if necessary.
> Remind me sometime in January please to pay attention to this.
> Currently a bit busy with other things.
>
>
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[Freedos-devel] Problem with batch installer for keyboards

[Henrique Peron]

Merhaba Thraex,

I decided to forward your message to the FreeDOS-devel mailing list.

It is clear, now, that the problem lies in the REGIONAL.BAT installer. 
First, the FreeDOS installer looked for the turkish Q layout on 
KEYBRD3.SYS, which is wrong. Now, it looks for it on KEYBOARD.SYS, which 
is also wrong. Both turkish layouts are on KEYBRD2.SYS.


Also, there are references to *.KL files on the batch installer which 
should be removed.


I imagine that, since the bulk of FreeDOS users seem to be savvy DOS 
users, they themselves fix the incorrectly generated AUTOEXEC.BAT.


Again, I ask to whoever is in charge for the installer to fix it. I will 
be always available to help, if necessary.


Thanks for your feedback, Thraex.

Regards,
Henrique


 Mensagem original 
Assunto: 	[Spam] Re: [Freedos-user] Possible problem with Turkish 
keyboard layouts (was: Re: [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: [Spam] Re: [Spam] 
Possible problem with Turkish keyboard layouts)

Data:   Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:25:01 +0100
De: thraex 
Responder a: 	Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. 

Para: 	Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS. 





Hi,

Just wanted to let you and the list know that I completely deleted my
previous VirtualBox install (and FreeDOS with it) and reinstalled
everything on Ubuntu 10.04.4 amd64. Allocated a bit more RAM a bit less
disk space to FreeDOS but no changes other than that...

...except that now even when I choose 59 Turkey Qwerty, I get a good old
US QWERTY layout, not the Turkish one. Why? I don't have the slightest
idea. When I type KEYB TR, here's what I get:

FreeDOS KEYB 2.01 -  (c) Aitor Santamaria Merino - GNU GPL 2.0
Keyboard layout   : C:\FDOS\BIN\KEYBOARD.SYS
Specified file does not contain information for this layout/id

Other than that, the previous error messages I had mentioned are still
there. (On my previous install, the country code 19 during the
installation which I suppose was for the Turkish F layout got me a US
QWERTY but although I got error messages, the country code 59 had the
correct Turkish QWERTY layout. Now I get US QWERTY for both of them).

It looks like this feature will need some testing when it's fixed. I can
happily volunteer for that, feel free to drop me an e-mail whenever you
need a tester.
 

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Re: [Freedos-devel] [Spam] Re: [Freedos-user] [Spam] Re: [Spam] Possible problem with Turkish keyboard layouts

[Henrique Peron]

Em 30/11/2012 07:52, thraex escreveu:
> On 30/11/12 01:40, Henrique Peron wrote:
>> Merhaba Thraex,
>> Saluton Ruĝulo,
>>
>> I have noticed the problem concerning the turkish layouts, and I could
>> see that it will affect most national layouts.
> It's nice to see that your nailed down the issue which happens to be
> "sexy" in some way: it seems to affect a large set of languages but at
> the same time, it's identified and doesn't seem extremely hard to fix.
> Hope the developers will have some time to spare for it.
I would like to discuss ideas on improving that keyboard layout menu, 
because the screen has run out of space and there are other layouts 
which aren't presented there, like the Cherokee and the Colemak, which 
you mentioned below.

The keyboard layout menu is beautiful on the first screen but, as you 
select "More...", the next screen does not receive the same refinement. 
Again — if there's someone out there reading fd-devel which could work 
on that, please either show yourself here or contact me at hperon -at- 
terra.com.br.
>> • For some reason (and I don't know why), AUTOEXEC.BAT is created so to
>> look for the turkish FGĞIOD layout on KEYBRD3.SYS, instead of looking
>> for it on KEYBRD2.SYS.
> Regarding Turkish, my advice would be to use the Turkish QWERTY layout
> as the default and/or the first option because it's by far the most
> widely used one and other operating systems do so too. In all cases,
> please make sure that you provide layout information: Turkish QWERTY and
> Turkish FGĞIOD (or the shorter versions Turkish Q and Turkish F which
> are perfectly understood). On FreeDOS 1.1, option 19 during the
> installation simply states "Turkey" and has the issue we've talked
> about. If you think it makes sense, you may want to forward that
> paragraph to the developers mailing list.
Ok, thank you for the tip. I had actually assumed that "Turkish F" was 
the most used keyboard layout, therefore I had not provided further 
information at the time, but I'll correct that.
>> ISO Latin codepages for FreeDOS are ready to go, for a long time
>> already, by the way. Ruĝulo, if you and/or anyone out there reading this
>> message feels that keyboard layouts based on ISO Latin codepages would
>> be welcome, please let me know.
> I don't know if it's the right place but I'd suggest two additional
> layouts. Colemak would be the first one: same goals compared to Dvorak
> (which is already supported), but closer to QWERTY so it's intended to
> be easier to learn. More information on <http://colemak.com/>, public
> domain stuff.
>
> For French, there's BÉPO, the kind of keyboard that makes you regret you
> learnt AZERTY. It may need to be simplified a bit to fit DOS though.
> Everything is under free licenses, and there's more information on
> <http://bepo.fr/>.
Thank you for the tip on the Bépo layout; actually, I had already 
learned about it. I just didn't work on that yet. It's a very impressive 
layout, covering many languages written with the latin script. It seems 
that there's even support for vietnamese. There's no support for african 
languages on it, but I have already provided layouts for those languages 
anyway.

Best regards,
Henrique


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Re: [Freedos-devel] [Freedos-user] [Spam] Re: [Spam] Possible problem with Turkish keyboard layouts

[Henrique Peron]

; MODE: Specified codepage was not found in file
> FreeDOS KEYB 2.01   - (c) Aitor Santamaria Merino - GNU GPL 2.0
>
> C:\FDOS\keybrd2.sys: Specified file could not be opened.
>
> KEYB: Ctrl-Alt-F1 to disable or Ctrl-Alt-F2 to re-enable!
>
> Done processing startup files C:\FDCONFIG.SYS and C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
>
> Note that I installed FreeDOS 1.1 on VirtualBox 3.1.6_OSE r59338 which
> itself runs on Ubuntu 10.04.4 amd64, so AUTOEXEC.BAT is the standard one
> created when the keyboard layout 19 (Turkish) is chosen. Should I have
> deleted something? (I see LH KEYB TR,,keybrd2.sys just on top of the
> block I typed)
>
>> Aaah, dotless i, Isildur's bane:-)
> Heh, that's the easy bug I file almost every time. Capital I becomes ı
> instead of i when there's a switch to lower case letters. I'm sure this
> can save lives:
> <http://gizmodo.com/382026/a-cellphones-missing-dot-kills-two-people-puts-three-more-in-jail>
> 8-)
>
> As for me, I had translated an app and all the ŞIK (option, like check
> this box...) words became sik which is a very vulgar word in Turkish
> (btw, if translations in French or Turkish for FreeDOS would be useful,
> I can happily try my best to contribute).
>
> On 28/11/12 03:04, Henrique Peron wrote:
>>> Thanks for explaining, but how do I select these codepages? (...)
>> Please check your AUTOEXEC.BAT file.
>>
>> Make sure there are lines like these:
>>
>> 
>> display con=(ega,,3)
>> mode con cp prepare=((853,857,858) c:\freedos\cpi\ega.cpx)
>> mode con cp select=xxx
>> keyb tr
>> 
> I added these lines just before the alias commands at the bottom of
> autoexec.bat (xxx was 858). I got the following error messages (some of
> them are probably normal messages which are not related to the issue but
> I just typed them anyway):
>
> Bufferes allocated: 000 in TPA, 003 in XMS
> MODE: File not found
> MODE select codepage 858 function failed
> MODE: Specified codepage was not found in file
> FreeDOS KEYB 2.01 - (c) Aitor Santamaria Merino - GNU GPL 2.0
> Keyboard layout: C:\FDOS\BIN\KEYBOARD.SYS
> Specified file does not contain information for this layout/id
> Done processing startup files C:\FDCONFIG.SYS and C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
>
>> The four lines above prepare and select 3 codepages, all available on 
>> EGA.CPX. You'll trade "xxx" in the third line for:
>>
>> • 853, if you need to type turkish — and/or esperanto. It is important to 
>> mention, though, that codepage 853 seems to be considered obsolete on what 
>> concerns the turkish language. (Codepage 853 is the only one which handles 
>> esperanto.)
>>
>> • 857, if you don't need esperanto. A good thing about codepage 857 is that 
>> it not only seems to be the preferred codepage for turkish; you'll have the 
>> Euro sign.
>>
>> • 858, highly recommended to type in "western european" languages. I say 
>> "recommended" instead of "needed" because you could perfectly use cp857 to 
>> type in, say, portuguese, spanish, italian, etc., however I don't advise you 
>> to do that. If you'd like to know why, just let me know.
> Heh, now I'm curious. If you have time to explain I'd happily read your
> explanation.
>
>> I'll do that. I use VirtualBox. ;)
>>> Çok teşekkürler.
>> Birşey değil.
> O_o You speak Turkish?
>
>> Should anything still not goes well as it should, please let me know.
> Thanks again for helping out.
>
> PS: Currently freedos.org returns an "Address Not Found" error but
> www.freedos.org works fine. Maybe the first URL should redirect to the
> working one.
>
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Re: [Freedos-devel] [Spam] Re: Korean and persian keyboard layouts

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Pete,

Em 03/01/2012 23:14, Pete Batard escreveu:
> Hi Enrique. Thanks for the detailed reply.
You're welcome.
>> In what comes to the persian language, though, I could help.
>>
>> 1) The codepage
>>
>> IBMDOS codepage 1098 for persian is a little better - the guillemets and
>> the riyal currency sign are there but the arabic percent sign is still
>> missing. The multiplication sign is also there. On the other hand, it
>> only presents the same drawing characters available, for instance, on
>> cp850: single, double, the 3 shade characters and 3 out of 5 block
>> characters.
>>
>> A possible approach is for me to have a green light to devise a persian
>> codepage myself, if that would suit you.
> Well, as you may have guessed, I don't speak or read Persian, and I
> don't really have a clear idea of what Persian localized DOS programs
> might be out there, or what the requirements for those might be.
> Whichever seems best to you (or to a native speaker) is 100% fine by me.
> For what is worth, being a cp850 user, and used to cp437 designed apps
> not displaying exactly as intended, I'm not sure the loss off the
> drawing characters is that big a deal. So any choice you pick is fine
> really.
Actually, I had guessed you spoke persian. I like to study languages; I 
know other people who do and I had guessed you were one of them. :)

In a perfect scenario, users would have perfect support for their 
languages *and* all the repertoire of linedraw characters, shades, 
blocks, etc. However, it's not always possible, specially in what comes 
to the persian language, due to the limitation of 128 characters per 
codepage (the upper half).
>> There is the IBM keyboard layout for persian.
> Does that mean that, if diacritics are unavailable, we have to fallback
> to a layout that may not match what is displayed on the physical
> keyboard, i.e. one that has a selection of symbols with diacritics
> already added?
No. Not the case here. Letters and diacritics are displayed separately 
in the keyboard. Diacritics would be typed in a overlapped manner, which 
would not be possible in text mode anyway.
>> As with codepages, I could devise a persian keyboard layout myself.
> I guess it may all depend on how Persian speakers may be familiar with
> an IBM fallback, or whether the layout that you devise would be
> intuitive enough. Not something I can really answer.
Two approaches here.

1) Persian keyboard for persian native speakers living in Iran or dari 
native speakers living in Afghanistan. (Persian and dari are practically 
the same language.) In this case, I would simply encode the layout that 
they're used to.

2) Anyone else (including iranian and afghanis in the diaspora, who 
presumably have never seen a physical keyboard for their language): I 
would prepare a "phonetic" layout on top of a regular US-keyboard, as 
close as possible to the arabic script for persian/dari.
> For the record, I only asked about Korean and Persian because Windows
> seemed to support them, not because I have received any requests to
> support those. My guess would be that most of the Persian people using
> Rufus will probably be OK with a US cp/kb fallback, and those who aren't
> would probably contact this list. Thus it may actually be better to wait
> for native speakers to manifest themselves and hear what their
> preference would be.
You're absolutely right.

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[Freedos-devel] Korean and persian keyboard layouts (was: Rufus/FreeDOS KB locale)

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Pete,

Em 02/01/2012 23:45, Pete Batard escreveu:
> Are Korean and Farsi (Persian) keyboard layouts supported in FreeDOS? 
> Windows seems to require specific layouts for those, but I couldn't 
> find mention of "ko" or "fa" as supported by KEYB.EXE, so I commented 
> these out. Did I miss something? 

Korean and persian keyboard layouts are not available for FreeDOS at the 
moment.

Unfortunately, korean (as well as chinese and japanese) keyboard layouts 
are beyond my grasp. They require special handling. We have been lucky; 
there was a japanese FreeDOS user, a few years ago, who encoded one of 
the japanese keyboard layouts (seemingly the most popular) for FreeDOS. 
We would need to have the same luck again in what regards korean and 
chinese keyboards.

In what comes to the persian language, though, I could help.

1) The codepage

I could encode the IranSystem codepage into FreeDOS, seemingly popular 
on those DOS days -- but it lacks the arabic semicolon, the arabic 
percent sign, guillemets and the riyal currency sign. On the other hand, 
it provides all single, double and mixed linedraw characers, as well as 
shades and blocks, just like cp437.

IBMDOS codepage 1098 for persian is a little better - the guillemets and 
the riyal currency sign are there but the arabic percent sign is still 
missing. The multiplication sign is also there. On the other hand, it 
only presents the same drawing characters available, for instance, on 
cp850: single, double, the 3 shade characters and 3 out of 5 block 
characters.

There are lots of codepages devised for the arabic script for DOS which 
require special handling by some specially designed text editor because 
such codepages only provide the isolated shapes of the letters, implying 
that such applications (with or without the extra help of some TSR) 
would trade the isolated shapes of letters for the proper shapes as the 
user types the letters. There is no such TSR or text editor with such 
features for FreeDOS at the moment, therefore interesting codepages like 
arabic MS-DOS codepage 708 or DOS PASCII codepage (devised by the indian 
government on those old DOS days) must be left behind.

A possible approach is for me to have a green light to devise a persian 
codepage myself, if that would suit you. As in what happens with IBMDOS 
cp1098, I would sacrifice mixed linedraw characters to encode a few 
missing characters both on IranSystem and cp1098, such as the afghan 
currency sign and the few arabic letters which aren't, in principle, 
part of the persian repertoire but are needed to type borrowed arabic 
words, like the ones which require tah marbuta.

2) The keyboard layout

There is the Windows keyboard layout for persian. It would not be 
interesting because it presents arabic diacritics, which would not be 
possible to be typed in FreeDOS, so it would be quite crippled.

There is the IBM keyboard layout for persian. It only presents the 
persian repertoire. Still, it presents guillemets, the arabic percent 
sign and the riyal currency sign. Some or all of them would be missing 
according to what I choose (IranSystem or cp1098).

As with codepages, I could devise a persian keyboard layout myself.

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Re: [Freedos-devel] [Spam] Re: New keyboard layout pack - KPDOS 3.0

[Henrique Peron]

Ahoj Ladislav,

please feel free to contact me whenever you want. Criticisms, 
suggestions and requests are always welcome.

Henrique

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> Thanks! I am a czech user so the bugfixes around czech related stuff is for 
> me more than welcome.
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[Freedos-devel] New keyboard layout pack - KPDOS 3.0

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

a new version of the keyboard layout pack has been released. Version 3.0 
"goes bidi" -- french/arabic, US/arabic and US/hebrew layouts are now 
available (to be used under Thomas Wolff's Mined). Brazilian keyboards 
are now able to use cp860 as well as ABIComp; the US-Colemak layout is 
available; ukrainian keyboards can now type the hryvnia sign; 
corrections were made to czech (mainly,  now affects the czech 
accented letters in the first row) and brazilian ABNT keyboards (so that 
users can now type "/", "?" and "°" on notebook keyboards which don't 
provide the  key).

Last but not least, all keyboards are now able to type esperanto.

The ZIP file can be downloaded from the software list ("Base") or 
directly from here:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/

To take advantage of the new features, the new codepage pack 
(CPIDOS30.ZIP) must be downloaded -- also from the software list 
("Base") or directly from here:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/cpi/

Or here: http://www.fdos.org/kernel/cpi/

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[Freedos-devel] New codepage pack - CPIDOS 3.0

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

a new version of the codepage pack has been released. Version 3.0 
provides codepages for arabic (CP-864E), hebrew (cp856/862), 
"turkish-cp437" and brazilian ABIComp, as well as ukrainian codepages 
developed for FreeDOS containing the hryvnia sign and enhancements on 
cp853 -- DOS Multilingual Latin-3, particularly aimed at esperanto and 
maltese: formerly empty codepoints (6) are now filled with the 
plus/minus sign and 5 currency signs: Euro, Cent, Yen, Maltese Lira and 
Spesmilo.

The ZIP file (CPIDOS30.ZIP) can be downloaded from the software list 
("Base") or directly from here:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/cpi/

Or here: http://www.fdos.org/kernel/cpi/

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Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Bernd,

Country=31 (Kingdom of the Netherlands), ok...
Codepage 858 (usable by dutch keyboards, ok)...
Well, COUNTRY= is alright.

I can't say anything about NLSFUNC. You'll have to reach Eduardo Casino 
for that. Sorry. :(

DISPLAY is alright, so is MODE.
KEYB US (Ok, I learned elsewhere in the web that dutch users commonly 
use the regular US-101 keyboard instead of the dutch one)...
CHCP 858 (I didn't even know that there was CHCP for FreeDOS)
I just don't know about that /NOHI parameter. :(

Henrique

Em 13/07/2011 16:58, Bernd Blaauw escreveu:
> Op 10-7-2011 16:07, Aitor Santamaría schreef:
>> Hello,
>>
> This NLS stuff is doing my head in, even before trying to automate it in
> configuration scripts..
>
> CONFIG.SYS:
> 
> COUNTRY=31,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
>
> NLS.BAT / AUTOEXEC.BAT:
> =
> NLSFUNC C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
> DISPLAY CON=(EGA,858,1)
> MODE CON CP PREP=((858) C:\FDOS\CPI\EGA.CPX)
> MODE CON CP SEL=858
> KEYB US,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\KEYBOARD.SYS /NOHI
> CHCP 858
>
>
> 1) Is above correct? If not, how should it be?
Yes, it is - I just don't know about /NOHI. :(
> 5) DISPLAY seems to be able to be loaded lots of time in a row?
If you feel you'll need room for more than a codepage, I suggest you 
just run DISPLAY CON=(EGA,,6) so that have room for 6 (maximum 
number). If you underestimated your needs and just created room for 1 
codepage, you can always rerun DISPLAY.
> 8) How do I get an euro sign from keyboard? Thought using 858 instead of
> 850 would allow this, keyboard has a sign above the "5".
 + <5> and  +  both do the trick.

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[Freedos-devel] DOS and Right-to-left support

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

would anyone out there happen to know how did arabic DOS, on the old 
days, deal with:

1) The control characters needed to handle the script - ZWJ (Zero-width 
joiner), ZWNJ (zero-width non-joiner), RLM (right-to-left mark), LRM 
(left-to-right mark) and control characters needed to handle bilingual 
text (LTR and RTL) in a same sentence: RLE/LRE (right-to-left and 
left-to-right embedding), RLO/LRO (right-to-left and left-to-right 
override) and PDF (POP directional Formatting).

2) Codepage 720 and many others which only present the isolated shapes 
of the characters. DOS, seemingly, had somehow to rely on subfonts or 
any feature which would cause DOS to trade the characters' isolated 
shapes for their initial, medial or final shapes on-the-fly as the text 
was typed.

3) Combining chars. All arabic codepages, including cp864, include at 
least two codepoints which present them.

Hebrew DOS is a simpler case yet topic #3 also applies to the script 
and, with the exception of control characters ZWJ and ZWNJ, topic #1 
also does.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: [Freedos-devel] [Spam] R: Re: Updated INSTALL program

[Henrique Peron]

Hi,

you can enter the following lines into your AUTOEXEC.BAT file as follows:

DISPLAY CON=(EGA,858,1)
MODE CON CP PREP=((858) EGA.CPX)
MODE CON CP SEL=858
KEYB IT

If "KEYB IT" doesn't match the characters that are labeled on your 
keyboard, please try "KEYB IT /ID:142".
If that also does not match your keyboard, please let me know.

Henrique

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> Hi,
>
> for me, end user :
>
> Installation (to harddisk!) is now a matter of:
> 1) Partitioning (optional if already done)
> 2) Formatting (optional if already done)
> 3) Installing
> 4) Copy kernel (and optional, shell) to C:\ (unless C: is USB, ah
> well)
> 5) Run SYS if user wants.
> 6) Create configuration files (optional, usefull)
> 7) Reboot (optional)
>
> Complicated by:
> 1) Hardware
> 2) USB sticks pretending to be C:
>
> BUT ALSO :
>
> setting files, buffers, DOS (high/umb)
> Sett EMM /XMS
> Language/keybpard
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Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Ruĝulo,
> No offense to anybody, but even I know MS i18n codepage support is a
> joke. They never even bothered supporting Latins 1-4.
>
> I did make a bootdisk a while back (year ago?) intending to demo the
> codepage stuff with FreeDOS, but I never finished it (and nobody else
> seemed interested). I could (hopefully) dig it up if you're
> interested.
How did that demo work?

Henrique

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Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Bret,

Em 29/06/2011 18:37, Bret Johnson escreveu:
> I live in the USA, so don't have a need for any alternative language settings 
> in my everyday life.  But, I have messed around with a lot of keyboard 
> layouts and code pages to test some of my keyboard related programs over the 
> years, so I'll let you know what I've discovered.  Nearly all of my 
> experience is with MS-DOS, not FreeDOS, so take it with a grain of salt.
you say you've messed around with a lot of keyboard layouts and 
codepages. That called my attention.
Would you mind telling me which codepages you tried? I'm particularly 
looking for cp854 and cp776. I just know that they existed but I never 
found their description.
If necessary, I could send you a list of all codepages I know and you 
could check it against your list.

Thanks,
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Re: [Freedos-devel] confused by NLS-settings

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

> Well, what explicit languages are you trying to support? Honestly, if
> you don't care about "full" NLS, you don't need everything and the
> kitchen sink. Latin-1 (850 or 819) is pretty much all you need for the
> common folk. (I'm not trying to marginalize anyone, just saying it's
> easier to support a subset.) Really, just including EGA.CPX alone (and
> without *.CPX) is probably sufficient for basic needs.
Cp819, along with almost all other ISO 8859-x codepages, has never been 
released; I've prepared them a long time ago but I really don't know 
whether is there any interest on ISO 8859 codepages.

I have also prepared, a long time ago, MAC OS and Windows codepages.

Should (all | most) of you tell me that support for them is interesting 
for FreeDOS, I would work on distinct sets of KEYB*.SYS keyboard layout 
library files.

Henrique

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[Freedos-devel] New keyboard layout and codepage packs

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

this is to announce that there's a new codepage pack available, v2.3, 
which provides codepage for the cherokee syllabary and the bulgarian MIK 
codepage, both requested. There's, respectively, a new keyboard layout 
pack, v2.6, with the necessary enhancements on the US and the bulgarian 
keyboards; always important to emphasize is that both of them continue 
to work as usual under their default codepages.

There's also an important modification on the brazilian ABNT2 keyboard 
layout so that it gets around a failure on DOSEMU on what concerns its 
default handling of key 56h, also known as the 102nd key on the 
brazilian and most european keyboards.

Explanation: DOSEMU provides " >" (space / greater-than) for that key. 
Computer motherboards, so to speak, provide "\|" for both 2Bh and 56h 
keys (the latter one happening to be "\|" on the brazilian keyboard) as 
default, which is why the brazilian 56h key was left uncoded on the 
brazilian keyboard layout on previous keyboard layout packs. Therefore, 
if you are a brazilian DOSEMU user and use an ABNT keyboard, you should 
download this new keyboard layout pack.

Thanks to Alain Mouette for the report of the problem on DOSEMU. He 
provided a patch for the brazilian keyboard under DOSEMU here: 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2797605&group_id=49784&atid=457449

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Re: [Freedos-devel] Brasilian keyboard driver for Blocek

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Ladislav,

yes, I could test Blocek with the brazilian layout. I must tell you 
though that brazilian keyboards are not meant to work with cp860. 
According to MS-DOS standards, our keyboard is meant to work with cp850 
(i.e. cp858 here on FreeDOS) and cp437 (God knows why, because it's 
impossible to type portuguese with that CP). That CP is for portuguese 
keyboards only, which by the way also work with cp850 but not with cp437 
(MS and IBM were coherent in relation to portuguese keyboards).

Regardless of the adequacy of cp860 to brazilian keyboards, I could 
prepare the cp860uni.tbl (or any other) redirector; I'm glad I can help.

There's just a problem though. How do I create those files? They aren't 
plain text files.

Regards,
Henrique

Ladislav Lacina escreveu:
> Could someone test the new brasilian layout for Blocek? (Henrique?)
> Instalation is simple, take this archive: 
> http://www.laaca-mirror.ic.cz/brasil.rar
> and unzip it into \KEY_TBL subdirectory of your Blocek instalation.
> How does it work in unicode mode?
> As redirector I use the cp858uni.tbl file. It supports most 
> west-european languages but I know that portugese has also own 860 
> codepage. So if it is not OK, could you to create a cp860uni.tbl 
> redirector?
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Keyboard problem

[Henrique Peron]

No problem Alain :-)

I'm glad to know that those mini-keyboards don't work with different 
scancodes.

Henrique

Alain M. escreveu:
> Confirmed: I just managed to boot this same machine in pure FreeDOS and 
> the key works just fine. ScanCode is 0x73=115
>
> The probelm is then with dosemu that is not forwarding the scancode.
>
> Forgive me for bothering everyone with a false problem,
> Alain
>
> chris evans escreveu:
>   
>>> I just installed KEYB 2.0 with layout 2.5 that I downloaded from ibiblio. 
>>> It is working great under DOSEMU.
>>> *Except* for one key.
>>> This is an oddity of my keyboard, it is a "small" keyboard and it has a
>>>   
>>  layout like a notebook but on a desktop and it has a key for 
>> 
>>> characters
>>>   
>>  "/" and "?" that is just besides the Alt-Grey.
>> 
>>> I tested with KEYCODE.EXE but it doesn't generate anything at all :( Is
>>>   
>>  there another program to show the scancodes?
>>
>> What machine you on?
>> scancode shows the /? key on this laptop as 2f/3f hex maybe run int16 and 
>> take a look at th scancode that keyboard is putting out for it?
>>
>> http://www.aotksc.com/dmsoft/scancode.com
>>
>> Key/Scan/Shift
>>  ==|==|==
>>  2F  35  00
>>  3F  35  02
>>  
>> --chris
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Keyboard problem

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Alain,

I'm also brazilian and I also have a brazilian ABNT2 keyboard. The 
BR.KEY layouts works fine here. There's no need for adjustments, unless 
your keyboard hardware works with different scancodes (you said you have 
a notebook with a brazilian ABNT2 keyboard). Mine is a regular desktop 
mini-DIN ("PS/2") keyboard.

Most intriguing is that not even KEYCODE is able to read the scancodes 
of that extra key in your notebook; in a normal condition, it would read 
"115".

If you want to continue this conversation in portuguese, you can contact 
me: hperon @ terra.com.br .

One thing occured to me: if possible, please send me a close picture of 
your keyboard. I've already seen many oddities on the market which do 
not follow ABNT, portuguese or american standards. I've already seen, 
for instance, a regular US keyboard with a <Ç> key to the right of . 
All the rest follows a standard US keyboard layout (i.e. the dead keys 
with the diacritics are missing). There's no official layout like that, 
anywhere. You can't set it up on Windows or any other operating system.

It seems you have one of those "mini-keyboards" with ABNT2 layout which 
we find here in Brazil; it probably uses proprietary scancodes. If 
that's the case, please send me the brand and model and I'll contact the 
manufacturer for the scancodes. (Anyway, if possible, I still want that 
close picture of your keyboard).

Regards,
Henrique

Alain M. escreveu:
> Hi Aitor, hi all,
>
> I just installed KEYB 2.0 with layout 2.5 that I downloaded from 
> ibiblio. It is working great under DOSEMU.
>
> *Except* for one key.
>
> This is an oddity of my keyboard, it is a "small" keyboard and it has a 
> layout like a notebook but on a desktop and it has a key for characters 
> "/" and "?" that is just besides the Alt-Grey.
>
> This key also had problems with VMware and it was fixed with this extra 
> command in it's config: "xkeymap.keycode.211 = 115". I hope that this 
> information can help.
>
> I tested with KEYCODE.EXE but it doesn't generate anything at all :( Is 
> there another program to show the scancodes?
>
> I looks like I would just have to add a line
> 211 /?   °
> to the file BR.KEY and recompile! But it did not work. I compiled and 
> loaded like this:
>
> KC.EXE Br.key
> keyb br,850,br.kl
>
> The compilation and loading is working because I succeded modifying some 
> character just for a test.
>
> Please Help,
> Alain
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Codepages and printers

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Ladislav,

I don't know if you remember me but I helped Mateusz Viste with his 
Foxtype program, particularly on the creation of the characters. 
(There's been a long time a I don't speak with him; I guess his 
character database is much more comprehensive by now.)

Multilanguage printing, in your case, refers to unicode characters; that 
would also be great! :-)

Eric Auer is also interested on that; perhaps you two could coordinate a 
joint effort, what do you say?

Meanwhile, I'm curious about one thing: it seems that you provide 
keyboard layouts internally on your Blocek program, is it? How does it work?

We could continue on Blocek in private because it's off-topic in what 
concerns the original subject of this message. In case you want to, 
naturally.

Regards,
Henrique


Ladislav Lacina escreveu:
> I am very interrestes in it too. I looked into some docs about Hewlett
> packard printers and about their PCL language but I don't understant it very
> much. I think that such multilanguage printing is would be extremely useful
> for my text editor Blocek.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Henrique Peron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "fd-dev" 
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:03 AM
> Subject: [Freedos-devel] Codepages and printers
>
>
>   
>> Hello all,
>>
>> would anyone volunteer to develop support for printing codepages?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your attention,
>> Henrique
>>
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Codepages and printers

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Bruce,

today, on FreeDOS, we rely on codepages already encoded into printer's 
firmware.

For instance, if I happen to be russian and type a text in russian then 
there's no problem since I most likely have a russian printer which is 
able to select russian codepages.

However, what happens if I'm brazilian and I want to print a russian 
text in my brazilian printer? There's no cp866 on its firmware.

There are programs which are able to somehow "upload" a codepage into a 
printer's RAM. There are ESC/P commands for that. I've tested a 
shareware program (for Windows) called DOSPRN which does exactly that. 
It has several codepages in its library. All I have to do is to type a 
russian text under DOS, run DOSprn, select codepage 866 on it and send 
the text to the printer. It works perfectly.

A solution like this under FreeDOS would be perfect because it would 
override printer firmware limitations which are generally based on 
geography. My Epson Stylus Color 740 inkjet printer certainly does not 
have eastern european codepages in its firmware; on the other hand, most 
likely the very same printer sold on the russian market does not have, 
let's say, maltese codepage 853 or baltic codepage 775.

Another important point for this need is that I devised several 
codepages for FreeDOS to assist several languages never previously 
assisted by any DOS-like OS which, being my creation, are therefore 
available on no printer's firmware. The idea is to be able to "send" 
these codepages to a printer as well.

I've read a lot about ESC/P and ESC/P2 commands to know that this could 
be accomplished on several printers; I know that there are some printers 
who doesn't apply to that but many FreeDOS users would already be assisted.

It would be interesting if there was some program which could somehow 
read the 8x16 font files encoded into FreeDOS CPI files so that it could 
build printer codepages out of the display codepages; if this happens to 
be too difficult or a big-time-consuming effort, I could provide the 
shape of all characters of all codepages on a TXT file with, let's say, 
matrixes of "0"s and "1"s representing the dots the compose them. As a 
matter of fact, I already prepared such file a long time ago. It has 
many latin, cyrillic, greek, georgian, armenian and many other 
characters which would already help us very much for a start.

If you want me to enter even more into details, please send me a 
message: hperon @ terra.com.br .

Thanks,
Henrique

Bruce M. Axtens escreveu:
> Henrique
>
> Could you unpack that request a little. I don't think I quite understand
> what you're after.
>
> Bruce.
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henrique
> Peron
> Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 10:03 AM
> To: fd-dev
> Subject: [Freedos-devel] Codepages and printers
>
> Hello all,
>
> would anyone volunteer to develop support for printing codepages?
>
> Thanks in advance for your attention,
> Henrique
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[Freedos-devel] Codepages and printers

[Henrique Peron]

Hello all,

would anyone volunteer to develop support for printing codepages?

Thanks in advance for your attention,
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Blo?ek

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Johnson!

First of all, thank you for your kind words - again :-)

However, FoxType is not about a Text Editor - it's just about a way to  
read UTF-8 files.
That's why the "Type" in "FoxType", implying that it's an enhancement over  
the regular DOS command "Type".

Regards,
Henrique


Em Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:28:20 -0400, Johnson Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
escreveu:

> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 02:22:53 +0200, you wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> I write from scratch a new text editor for (Free)DOS. It works in  
>> graphics
>> mode so I hope that in next major version will be I able to add unicode
>> support.
>
> You're not happy with Foxtype v0.14?
> Henrique Peron is working hard on that, just don't want you guys
> duplicate time and effort.
>
>
> Rgds,
> Johnson.
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[Freedos-devel] Re: [Freedos-user] Right-ALT key (topic was Customizing Startup Files)

[Henrique Peron]

Hi John,
 
I have just tested the US keyboard (under 
MS-DOS EDIT) and the  works just like 
.
 
If you haven't prepared and selected any cp 
(codepage), then you'll be using the character table implemented in the 
BIOS of your VGA adapter which, on 99.999% of the cases, is identical (in 
encoding) to FreeDOS (and MS-DOS, IBM-DOS and probably any other DOS) cp437 and 
that's why if you run KEYB under these conditions, it will work as if you had 
prepared and selected that codepage. In that case, "KEYB US" should work just 
like the US implementation of the keyboard BIOS extension.
 
If you have actually prepared and selected cp437 (or 
cp850), "KEYB US" should still work just like the US implementation of the 
keyboard BIOS extension.

 
The  key only works differently 
(i.e. like the  key on international keyboards) if there's a 
character associated to a given combination.If you're using cp858 
(which is FreeDOS default), the  key works as  
only to  + <5> and  + , 
which display the Euro sign.
For all the other combinations,  
remains the same as .
 
Therefore, as far as I can see it, KEYB not only 
sticks to the commitment of being 100% MS-DOS compatible as well as it enhances 
MS-DOS KEYB functionality, since it allows you to encode your own layouts and 
even extra layers, such as, for example, combining keys with  + 
.
 
All my KEY encodings and testings are under a Win98 
DOS Box. Perhaps KEYB behaves slightly different when working under FreeCOM 
(and/or under FreeDOS EDIT).
(Definition of "KEY encodings": All the keyboard 
layouts are encoded into *.KEY files.)
 
By the way, the issue of being a multimedia 
keyboard won't probably have anything to do with that. All that happens is, your 
multimedia keyboard has extra scancodes for its multimedia keys - which aren't 
dealt with on standard KEY files so they'll remain "dead" unless you run 
some program which handles them.
 
Henrique

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John 
  Hupp 
  To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Cc: Lester Vedrox 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:23 
  AM
  Subject: [Freedos-user] Right-ALT key 
  (topic was Customizing Startup Files)
  
  - Original Message - 
  
  From: Lester 
  Vedrox 
  To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Customizing Startup Files
  
  Running US-Eng keyboard straight from BIOS (which is US anyways) 
  sounds  like a good idea but I still can't get the right ALT key 
  working. The  following approach didn't solve the problem either 
  (kb2pre4.zip):LH KEYB US,,C:\FDOS\BIN\KEYBOARD.SYSMaybe it's 
  because it's multimedia keyboard.
  -
  -
   
  Lester,Regarding Right-ALT, I brought up the same issue with FD 
  Service Release 1.
   
  The understanding I finally arrived at was that, 
  though Right-ALT does not work in FreeDOS the same way it does 
  in MS-DOS in a default US installation, this behavior is nonetheless by 
  design.  It stems from special uses of Right-ALT in international 
  keyboards, but special status for the key has been carried over into the 
  design of the default behavior and apparently even into the US implementation 
  of the keyboard BIOS extension.
   
  I would still argue that the project's goal for a 
  "100% MS-DOS compatible" operating system means that, for US users, Right-ALT 
  should work the same as Left-ALT, but all-in-all, it is for me 
  a second-level issue.
   
  I follow with one of Eric Auer's replies to me 
  from last year.
   
  --John Hupp
   
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  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: 
  re: Re: Re: DOS news: loadfix, editDate: Friday, August 05, 2005 4:33 
  PM
  > Yes, Right-ALT *always* behaves on my system as I describe 
  it.> functionality I would expect under MS-DOS 6.22 with a US keyboard 
  layout: > e.g. Right-ALT+F would open the File menu just at Left-ALT+F 
  does...
   
  This is by design - EDIT must not tamper with right alt, as e.g. 
  Germankeyboard drivers need right alt to be available to type country 
  specifickeys. I think there is no interface which would tell EDIT that "I 
  am anUS keyboard driver so I do not need right alt" (to allow EDIT to 
  useright alt for function keys like alt-f). CCing Aitor about that.
   
  Note that I will be away from mail in the next weeks...
   
  Aitor writes the KEYB driver, so maybe he knows more about that Alt 
  thing,but I would generally recommend to use Alt for Alt, and not use 
  AltGr(which is nothing more than right-Alt for US keyboards but which has 
  aspecial meaning for international keyboards).
   
  Basically if EDIT 0.82 treats right-alt-F like left-alt-F then that 
  wouldbe a bug which makes life hard for e.g. German users. Lu

[Freedos-devel] Re: [Freedos-user] File names with cyrillic characters

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Dima.

I don't know who's in charge for the DIR command; perhaps the following 
information should help that programmer.


In what regards codepages 772, 808, 848, 849, 866, 1119, 1125, 1131, 30002, 
30008, 30010-30019, 58152, 58210, 59234, 60258, 61282, 62306:


1) The characters in the range A0h-AFh are small letters; their capitalized 
shapes are in the range 80h-8Fh.
2) The characters in the range E0h-EFh are also small letters and their 
capitalized shapes are in the range 90h-9Fh.


I would like to know who should I talk to regarding capitalization of 
letters in the upper-half of codepages.
I would prepair a "capitalization table" and send it to you. Please contact 
me: hperon AT terra.com.br .


Thanks,
Henrique

- Original Message - 
From: "dima" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: [Freedos-user] File names with cyrillic characters



Hello.

I have found a problem with a following cyrillic characters - "ge", "ve",
"a", "d", "b". All these characters does always replace with "U", "O", 
"A",

"е", "I" in output of dir command.

"ge", "ve", "a", "d", "b" in hex: A3, A2, A0, A4, A1.
"U","O", "A", "е", "I" in hex: 55 4F 41 A5 49.

This is part of my fdconfig.sys and fdauto.bat:
COUNTRY=007,866,D:\FDOS\BIN\country.sys

LH %dosdir%\BIN\display.exe con=(ega,,1)
%dosdir%\BIN\mode.com con codepage prepare=((866) %dosdir%\CPI\ega3.cpx)
%dosdir%\BIN\mode.com con codepage select=866
LH %dosdir%\BIN\keyb.exe RU,,%dosdir%\BIN\keybrd2.sys

And - ver /r:
FreeCom version 0.82 pl 2 XMS_Swap [Apr 28 2003 17:47:52]
DOS version 7.10
FreeDOS kernel version 0.0.35

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[Freedos-devel] Ukrainian keyboard layout

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,
Aitor,

I've sent some messages to Freewolle; I'm waiting for the feedback.
Ukrainian keyboards on FreeDOS respond both to "UR" and "UA" labels.
Freewolle is used to a third-party solution called "KEYUKR.COM".
I found out that it doesn't use  to switch between layouts, which makes 
his question quite intriguing.
You have to use  +  to switch to the russian layer, 
with the 4 extra ukrainian letters through  + .
Then, you press  +  again and you are on the 
ukrainian layer (no russian letters available this time).
Then, you press  +  again and you're back to the 
regular US layout.
Since KEYUKR provides a cyrillic layer over the US keyboard which seems not 
to be standard either under MS-DOS or IBM-DOS, I asked Freewolle to provide 
me the /id:999 identifier for the regular Microsoft 102-key ukrainian 
layout, so that I could disambiguate the UR.KEY that I prepared (which is 
based on Microsoft) from the UR.KEY that he expects me to prepare - and 
seems to be the most widely used solution on Ukraine.

Henrique

- Original Message - 
From: "Aitor Santamaría Merino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!


| Hi there,
|
| Arkady V.Belousov escribió:
| > 7-Окт-2005 15:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henrique Peron) wrote to
| > :
| >
| > HP> From: Freewolle Voluntar
| >
| >  Because we in public group, I translate our discussion.
| >
| > fv> Me was asked to translate FreeCOM messages to ukrainian and I do 
this.
| > fv> Translation is correct. ... To see ukrainian characters in FreeDOS, 
next
| > fv> commands shold be performed:
| > HP> DISPLAY.EXE CON=(EGA,,1)
| > HP> MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((1125) EGA4.CPX)
| > HP> MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE SELECT=1125
| > HP> KEYB UR,1125,UR.KL
| > -^^--^^
| >
| >  Strange name for layout - isn't Ukraine shortened as UA?
|
| This one goes to Henrique :)
|
| > fv> And I can't switch back from ukrainian to latin mode (after 
switching by
| > fv> Left Alt+Right Shift). I download Keyb (with sources) and study 
them, but,
| > fv> unfortunately, don't clear up this question.
| >
| >  This question to Aitor Santamaria_Merino (aitor.sm at wanadoo.es),
| > author of KEYB.
|
| I am in process of getting rid of the wanadoo address. Please use
| aitorsm at inicia.es instead, thanks!
| Regarding the question itself, whichever key combination has been used
| to go back depends on the layout itself, so this goes back to Henrique
| too :)
| (unless KEYB is not doing as it should).
|
| Incidentally, I think I have fixed the infamous DEL key problem, I am
| just working on other minor bugs that I have introduced with the library
| support, and when it's ready we'll have another version.
|
| Aitor
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Ukrainian language file

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Freewolle,
 
Thanks for the explanation on KEYUKR. Now I was 
able to test that.
I just compared KEYUKR layout with the major 
industry (MS and IBM) layouts.
The solution I implemented at the time which is 
closer to KEYUKR is UR.KEY which, when compiled, generates UR.KL - which is 
probably the one that you're using there.
 
The only difference is that UR.KL is based on a 
102-key keyboard while KEYUKR is based on a regular 101-key US keyboard. 
Unfortunately, it's precisely on the 102nd key that you would find the ukrainian 
GHE. Even then, because of the US keyboard, Microsoft provided the ukrainian 
GHE also to be found on  + . All 
the rest is the same between KEYUKR and UR.KL; ukrainian YE, I and YI are found 
on the same keys, both under KEYUKR and UR.KL.
 
I understand the inconvenience of having to type 
 +  every time you need the ukrainian GHE; I 
could prepare a 101-key version of the official Microsoft version, which would 
provide the replace the russian YO for the ukrainian GHE, then we would have 
identical solutions on KEYUKR and UR.KL.
 
Nevertheless, I would need this information 
from you in the first place: in order to avoid ambiguity, I would need the /id: 
xxx identifier code for the 102-key ukrainian keyboard.
 
On the other hand, there is this real 101-key 
ukrainian keyboard layout which is quite different from the KEYUKR solution. I 
found it on IBM website and I also prepared it for FreeDOS at the time. The 
filename is UR465.KEY. When compiled, you have UR465.KL. To use it, you would 
need to type "KEYB UR,,UR465.KL /ID:465". It does provide some letters on 
different positions from the ones they're found on KEYUKR and 
UR.KL.
* The ukrainian GHE is found at the right side of 
ukrainian/russian KHA;
* The russian I/ukrainian Y is found 
between EF and VE;
* The ukrainian I is found between EM and 
TE;
* The ukrainian YI is found at the right side of 
YU.
Just by chance - is this the keyboard that you 
have?
If so, this is it: you have the 101-key, /ID:465 
ukrainian keyboard.
 
Furthermore, the character set devised for KEYUKR 
provides a capital dotted I and, on all ukrainian sites that I found and all 
orthography sites that explained the ukrainian letters, the ukrainian capital I 
is undotted, just like the latin one. In order 
not to expand the character sets for FreeDOS because of a single character (the 
middle dot, which you requested), could I ask you to use "*" 
instead?
 
Henrique
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Freewolle Voluntar 
  To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:52 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Ukrainian 
  language file
  >Hi there,Hi!>I just noticed that the character 
  set used by KEYUKR is not standard - at >least according to IBM-DOS 
  codepage 1125.>It is a mixture of IBM-DOS/MS-DOS russian codepage 866 
  and IBM-DOS ukrainian >codepage 1125.>It comprehends all the 
  ukrainian and russian characters in the same >codepoints as 1125 but it 
  provides two characters (middle dot, square root) >from russian 
  codepage 866 and superscript 2 - which is not available on any 
  >official IBM or MS-DOS cyrillic codepage. On that codepoint (#253) it 
  should >be found the international currency sign instead, as it is both 
  on cp866 and >cp1125.>So, I ask: do you need the middle dot 
  (codepoint #250), the square root >(codepoint #251) and the superscript 
  2 (codepage #253) or could I stick to >the characters officially 
  assigned to codepage 1125, which are respectively >the division sign, 
  plus/minus sign and the international currency sign?Yes. It's symbol 
  (#251) is wanted by me - it's used on the lists beginning (punctuation) on 
  text's. Other symbols (#253 and #250) can be removed from 
  codepage.>If I can stick to codepage 1125, fine.>If I should 
  use those other 3 characters instead, I could provide a distinct 
  >ukrainian codepage which would comply with keyukr - however, it would 
  not be >named "1125". I would provide another codepage number and it 
  would be >referred to in the documentation.Ok.>Furthermore, 
  I was not able to switch to the cyrillic layout when I tried >KEYUKR. I 
  tried both + (as you said) and >+ 
  but KEYUKR didn't switch to the cyrillic layout. I tried 
  >"KEYUKR /HELP" (which is in plain english) and "KEYUKR /HELP:RUS" and 
  both >explanations were not clear to me, as to how to switch between 
  the latin and >the cyrillic modes. I would appreciate help on how to do 
  that. Thanks in >advance.In KeyUkr: Switch to Ukrainian layout: 
  Press the left Ctrl + right Ctrl simultaneously. For return to latin layout, 
  simple press the Esc key.>Henrique 
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

Arkady, this is a matter of layout, so this is for me to solve. :-)

"UR" is how Microsoft operating systems address the ukrainian keyboards.
"UA" is how the IBM operating systems do that.
So, I prepared the ukrainian layouts to accept both "UA" and "UR".

Freewolle, I have posted here some messages regarding your problem but it 
seems you didn't receive or read them yet.
Once again I suggest you to try switching to the latin layout through 
 + .
In relation to your keyboard: you used to run KEYUKR and, even though I 
found it on the web, I tried it here and I wasn't able to use it 
accordingly. I couldn't switch to the cyrillic layout.
I prepared the ukrainian layouts according to the mappings that I found on 
Microsoft and IBM websites, so I based myself on the major industry and not 
on KEYUKR (which I didn't even know to exist until now).
Please provide me a TXT file or an image file of your keyboard (since it 
seems there are two distinct ukrainian kyeboards) and I will be able to help 
you.
One thing I can tell for sure: I tested the ukrainian layouts that I 
prepared and they both displayed those 4 extra ukrainian letters.

Thanks,
Henrique
(hperon at terra.com.br)

- Original Message - 
From: "Arkady V.Belousov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!


Hi!

7-Окт-2005 15:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henrique Peron) wrote to
:

HP> From: Freewolle Voluntar

 Because we in public group, I translate our discussion.

fv> Me was asked to translate FreeCOM messages to ukrainian and I do this.
fv> Translation is correct. ... To see ukrainian characters in FreeDOS, next
fv> commands shold be performed:
HP> DISPLAY.EXE CON=(EGA,,1)
HP> MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((1125) EGA4.CPX)
HP> MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE SELECT=1125
HP> KEYB UR,1125,UR.KL
-^^--^^

 Strange name for layout - isn't Ukraine shortened as UA?

fv> But what we grief - I was can't ukrainize FreeCOM to check my 
translation.

 Unfortunately, I can't help you in this, because never recompile
FreeCOM and don't known with its structure.

fv> And I can't switch back from ukrainian to latin mode (after switching by
fv> Left Alt+Right Shift). I download Keyb (with sources) and study them, 
but,
fv> unfortunately, don't clear up this question.

 This question to Aitor Santamaria_Merino (aitor.sm at wanadoo.es),
author of KEYB.

fv> Also, on some keys incorrectly showed ukrainian layout - for example,
fv> there are not possible to enter ukrainian "?", "?", "?", "?".

 And this question to Henrique Peron (see address above), author of
layouts for KEYB. Also, don't forget to present characters in hex-mode, to
prevent their wrong recoding.




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[Freedos-devel] Ukrainian language file

[Henrique Peron]

Hi there,

I just noticed that the character set used by KEYUKR is not standard - at 
least according to IBM-DOS codepage 1125.

It is a mixture of IBM-DOS/MS-DOS russian codepage 866 and IBM-DOS ukrainian 
codepage 1125.
It comprehends all the ukrainian and russian characters in the same 
codepoints as 1125 but it provides two characters (middle dot, square root) 
from russian codepage 866 and superscript 2 - which is not available on any 
official IBM or MS-DOS cyrillic codepage. On that codepoint (#253) it should 
be found the international currency sign instead, as it is both on cp866 and 
cp1125.

So, I ask: do you need the middle dot (codepoint #250), the square root 
(codepoint #251) and the superscript 2 (codepage #253) or could I stick to 
the characters officially assigned to codepage 1125, which are respectively 
the division sign, plus/minus sign and the international currency sign?

If I can stick to codepage 1125, fine.
If I should use those other 3 characters instead, I could provide a distinct 
ukrainian codepage which would comply with keyukr - however, it would not be 
named "1125". I would provide another codepage number and it would be 
referred to in the documentation.

Furthermore, I was not able to switch to the cyrillic layout when I tried 
KEYUKR. I tried both  +  (as you said) and  
+  but KEYUKR didn't switch to the cyrillic layout. I tried 
"KEYUKR /HELP" (which is in plain english) and "KEYUKR /HELP:RUS" and both 
explanations were not clear to me, as to how to switch between the latin and 
the cyrillic modes. I would appreciate help on how to do that. Thanks in 
advance.

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Re: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov - please answer me!

[Henrique Peron]




Hi again,
Zdravstvuyte, (my russian won't go much further - 
I'm glad you typed in russian, because my knowledge on ukrainian is just about 
the alphabet and a few expressions)
 
I understood that you're ukrainian and you're used 
to KEYUKR.COM, which I just found on the web and I'll try it here to see the 
differences between the support that I provided - which was based on Windows XP 
and IBM OS/2, since I didn't have access to a localized version of MS-DOS which 
assisted the ukrainian language - and the support provided by that third-party 
solution, KEYUKR. I'll also compare the character table used with KEYUKR with 
the official IBM-DOS codepage 1125.
 
I also understood that KEYUKR uses  
+  to switch to the latin layout - so we're not talking 
about ukrainian MS-DOS KEYB. Anyway, if KEYUKR is (or was) much more used 
on Ukraine than ukrainian MS-DOS (or if there was never an ukrainian MS-DOS 
at all), please let me know.
 
Thanks,
Henrique Peron
 

   
  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Freewolle Voluntar 
  To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:51 
  PM
  Subject: [Freedos-devel] Arkady Belousov 
  - please answer me!
  Text for Arkady Belousov:Здраствуйте, уважаемый 
  Аркадий Белоусов! Меня попросили перевести на украинский язык (так как я - 
  украинец ;-) ) сообщения FreeCOM, что я успешно и сделал. Перевод адекватный - 
  это я гарантирую. При переводе я пользовался программой keyukr.com, но для 
  отображения украинских символов в FreeDOS вполне достаточно имманентных 
  средств этой системы. Чтобы адеква& #1090;но видеть украинские символы и 
  работать с украинизованным FreeCOM, нужно выполнить команды:DISPLAY.EXE 
  CON=(EGA,,1)MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((1125) EGA4.CPX)MODE.COM 
  CON CODEPAGE SELECT=1125KEYB UR,1125,UR.KLпосле чего украинские 
  символы корректно отображаются на экране. Единственное, что меня удручает, так 
  это то, что я не смог (не удалось) украинизировать FreeCOM, чтоб полюбова ться 
  своим переводом в реале. Также я обнаружил весьма досадную проблему - 
  переключиться на ввод украинских символов, используя FreeDOS Keyb, возможно, 
  лишь нажав на Left Alt + Right Shift, но пере ключиться обратно на ввод 
  латинских символов уже нет никакой возможности. Я скачивал пакеты Keyb 
  (компилированный и исходники) и просматривал их в надежде найти возмож ность 
  что-то поменять к лучшему, но, к большому сожалению, порывшись в дебрях 
  исходников, я так и не разобрался, что и где нужно конкретно изменить, чтоюы 
  Keyb работал как поl 3;ожено. Кроме того, на некоторых кливишах некорректно 
  отображается украинская раскладка - например, нет возможности ввести 
  украинскую "Ґ", "Є", "Ї", "І". Помогите мне, чтобы мо&# 1078;но было 
  работать с украинским языком в FreeDOS с использованием иманентных для него 
  средств. 
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Ukrainian language file for the FreeCOM & problems with Keyb.

[Henrique Peron]

Hi,
 
have you tried  + 
 ?
It should work with that.
 +  is meant to 
switch to the cyrillic layout.
 
Besides, the latest version of KEYB works with SYS 
library files. The KL files are not being released anymore and perhaps your KL 
file is outdated (meaning that it might have errors that were corrected 
later).
 
If you download the latest KEYB and the pack of SYS 
library files, it should work fine. Since there are two ukrainian keyboard 
layouts, please check the documentation to check which one is 
yours.
 
If you still have problems, you could contact me 
directly. My e-mail address is available on KPDOS and 
CPIDOS documentation.
 
If, according to ukrainian MS-DOS or IBM-DOS standards,  + 
 should switch to the latin layout, please let me know. I 
just had access to an english MS-DOS v6.22, where there's a COUNTRY.TXT 
file which explains that the cyrillic keyboards use  + 
 to switch to the latin layout and  + 
 to switch to the cyrillic layout. However, it 
only addresses the bulgarian, russian and former yugoslavian keyboards; 
there was no support for ukrainian and belarusian keyboards. Then, I assumed 
that the same combinations applied to those 2 cyrillic keyboards as well.
 
In what concerns the ukrainian characters, they are available on the 
codepoints as encoded on IBM-DOS codepage 1125. If your keyboard is not working 
as expected while working in the cyrillic mode, please try the other 
ukrainian keyboard layout available on KPDOS. If it still does not work as 
expected, please send me a picture of your keyboard (or a TXT or image file 
describing it) along with its identifier (/id: xxx) and, if 
possible, a table describing MS-DOS codepage 1125.
Thanks,
Henrique Peron
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Freewolle Voluntar 
  To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 8:04 
  AM
  Subject: [Freedos-devel] Ukrainian 
  language file for the FreeCOM & problems with Keyb.
  Greet all! Have's problem with Keyb - after switch to 
  entering the ukrainian symbols (after use commands:DISPLAY.EXE 
  CON=(EGA,,1)MODE.COM CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((1125) EGA4.CPX)MODE.COM 
  CON CODEPAGE SELECT=1125KEYB UR,1125,UR.KL), and pressing the left Alt 
  + right Shift, cannot be really return to entering the english symbols. 
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[Freedos-devel] Localization

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

some days ago, there was this spanish user asking whether there was a 
spanish localized version of FreeDOS.

Questions like that might start popping up more frequently.

I remember localization being easy for some programs like Robert Platt's 
HELP. All a user had to do was to translate messages on INI files. The good 
thing about this approach is that it wouldn't require extra work from the 
developers themselves. Anyone wishing to contribute on localization would be 
welcome.

Henrique




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Re: [Freedos-devel] "New" FreeDos Developer

[Henrique Peron]

Hello / Hej / Zdravstvuite Alekhine,

perhaps you might be interested on this (by the time you feel yourself ready 
to start contributing with FreeDOS): we still don't have how to print text 
on different languages, meaning that we don't have codepage support for 
printers.

What I provided so far is codepage support for screen as well as keyboard 
layouts.

So long, / Hej då, / Poka,
Henrique Peron

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:46 AM
Subject: [Freedos-devel] "New" FreeDos Developer


| Hi all,
| I am an experienced (+10 years) software
| developer who would like to aid to the
| FreeDos community in some way. My background is C/C++,
| Java/J2EE, Microsoft/Unix environments, Oracle db
| and also a little Assembler. Some years ago I worked
| on my sparetime with some MSDOS-programming.
| Except for installing and getting familiar with
| FreeDos, can you give me any hints for how to get
| started, which books/tutorials to read and such things
| ?.
| Which development environment/language
| do you recommend ?
|
| /Christer
|
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[Freedos-devel] Announcements: KPDOS v2.1, CPIDOS v1.4

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

this is to announce the release of new keyboard layout library files for 
FreeDOS and a new package of DOS-oriented codepages.
The details are as follows.

KEYBOARD.SYS, KEYBRD2.SYS new release: KPDOS package v2.1

 This is an important update to US keyboard users: the US Dvorak keyboard 
was
 being loaded instead. Furthermore, the documentation was greatly improved;
 the US and UK (standard) keyboards have been enhanced to type esperanto,
 maltese and afrikaans (the US keyboard was also enhanced to type maori); 
the
 norwegian and swedish/finnish keyboards were enhanced to type saami and
 karelian languages, as well as ingrian and livonian. Important: nothing has
 changed on the behaviours of all the keyboards mentioned above when they're
 used with their regular (e.g. cp858) codepages. Last but not least, support
 for the maltese keyboard (as released in Malta in Feb/2005) was added. For
 users who haven't downloaded any former KPDOS package, this is mandatory in
 order to use your keyboards. There is detailed documentation available on
 both packages.

 They can be downloaded from:
Source: 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/kpdos21s.zip
Libraries: 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/kpdos21x.zip

 CPIDOS v1.4: New pack of DOS-oriented codepages

 This new package is only necessary for norwegian and finnish/swedish
 keyboard owners to type saami and karelian languages, ingrian and livonian.
 For users who haven't downloaded any former CPIDOS package, this is
 mandatory in order to use your keyboards. Detailed documentation is
 available in the package.

 It can be downloaded from: 
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[Freedos-devel] Announcements: KPDOS v2.0 and CPIDOS v1.3

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

I would like to announce the release of the official library files 
(KEYBOARD.SYS and KEYBRD2.SYS) for the latest KEYB, which is v2.0 pre3. It's 
important to notice that they aren't compatible with any earlier FreeDOS 
KEYB version or any other OSes KEYB.

There are 81 layouts available on those two library files, which are 
enhanced versions (the Euro sign) of all the layouts available on MS-DOS(c) 
v6.22 as far as v8.0 as well as IBM OS/2 and old third-party solutions for 
layouts which have never been assisted by the major industry. There is 
detailed documentation available on both packages.

They can be downloaded from:

Source:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/kpdos20s.zip
Libraries:
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/kpdos20x.zip

Also, I would like to announce a new version of the codepage pack of 
DOS-oriented codepages, CPIDOS v1.3. In case you haven't downloaded any 
earlier version, this package is mandatory. For the newcomers to DOS-like 
operating systems: codepages are sets of characters to type in languages 
which require accented characters or even whole different alphabets and also 
currency signs, those shade and linedraw characters used to create and 
illustrate DOS boxes, mathematical symbols, special punctuation signs, etc.

The only difference between CPIDOS v1.2 and v1.3 is the relocation/inclusion 
of 2 codepages to take advantage of enhancements on the hungarian and polish 
keyboards. Hungarians can now use, if necessary, an old cp437-derived 
hungarian codepage which presents the Hungarian Forint (Ft) sign and 
kashubian-speaking poles can now type in that language. More details on the 
documentation available on the package.

CPIDOS v1.3 can be downloaded from 
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/cpi/cpidos13.zip

Have a nice day,
Henrique Peron,
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[Freedos-devel] MHCOMD.VBX module

[Henrique Peron]

Hello all.

First of all, please accept my apologies for posting an off-topic message.

Second, I don't know whether the request that I'll be doing is considered
piracy or not.
If it is, please accept my apologies for that as well and just disregard
this message.

The point is: while assisting a client, a program stopped working because it
lacks this MHCOMD.VBX module.

If is there anyone out there who has this module and could send it to me, I
would be very grateful.

There is this BIBLIO program which, after the HDD being reformatted, it
stopped working.
As soon as I double-clicked that, it called for a GRID.VBX module which I
was able to find within the (very old) floppies of my client.
I copied it into the HDD and the program then called for a CRYSTAL.VBX
module which luckily I was able to find as well.
Then, the program called for this MHCOMD.VBX module... Which I didn't find
anywhere (within the floppies that were still readable).
I tried the web as well. No deal.

Furthermore, if any of you could point me to some other mailing list where
perhaps I could find help, I would also be very grateful.

Thanks to all for your attention,
have a nice day,
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[Freedos-devel] Announce: Keyboard Layouts for KEYB v2.0

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

this is to announce the first keyboard layout pack for KEYB v2.0.

It is called KPDOS, because all keyboard layouts were encoded based on the
DOS codepages available at CPIDOS.
(I'll start working on KPWIN).

The source and the executable files can be found at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/keyb/kblayout/


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[Freedos-devel] Announce: new CPI-file (codepage) packs

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

this is to announce a new version of the CPI-file pack for FreeDOS - which
was called simply "CPI" and is now called CPIDOS - and still contains
DOS-based codepages only, such as cp437, cp850 and cp858 (= cp850 with Euro
sign).

The enhancements affect parcularly EGA5, EGA6 and EGA7.CPI files, as well as
the respective updates on documentation.

EGA5 contains, as before, greek codepages as well as cp850 and cp858 for the
primary (latin) layouts of greek keyboards.
cp111 has been removed; cp737 provides all the greek letters available on
that CP (and precisely on the same positions) and includes capital accented
letters. Therefore, EGA5 is now a little smaller, saving space for other
greek codepages which I might need to include in the future.

EGA6 contains, as before, armenian and georgian codepages and an old
yugoslavian codepage (cp113); now it includes cp858 for the primary layouts
of armenian and georgian keyboards. It makes it easier for owners of those
keyboards, so that they find all CPs they need into a single CPI file.

EGA7 contains, as before, non-slavic cyrillic codepages; now it includes
cp858 for the same reason it was included on EGA6.

I also introduce CPI-file packs based on other platforms: Windows (CPIWIN),
ISO (CPIISO), KOI (CPIKOI), Mac (CPIMAC) and a pack called "CPIMSC", which
contains codepages from HP, DEC and NextSTEP platforms.

The packs can be found at
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/cpi/


Have a nice day,
Henrique




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Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: Internationalisation of HTML Help

[Henrique Peron]

Hi Robert,

> Is there somewhere I can find an ASCII character map
> for each code page? It would save Eric the ordeal of
> sending me a transcription ;-)

I have 122 codepages ready here, though I don't have a TXT file detailing
their mappings.
Would it help? (Do you have a program to browse DOS fonts?)

By the way, I'm about to release a new CPI pack, which would consist of
codepages based on ISO charsets.
Afte reading some recent messages regarding internationalization of HTML
help, I thought that such piece of info
would be relevant.

Henrique




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Re: [Freedos-devel] re: Please confirm...

[Henrique Peron]

Hi all,

I would advise not only to keep a good antivirus updated (preferrably on a
daily basis as I do), as well as anti-spyware programs such as SpyBot
(www.safer-networking.org) **and** SpywareBlaster
(www.wildersecurity.net/spywareblaster.html) .

The first program removes spyware programs from the computer; the other one
blocks spyware from being installed into the computer.

Both are reliable, on both senses: they are not spyware programs travested
as anti-spyware ones and they are really able to do their job, as they
promise.

In case you don't want to take my word for it, I suggest you do a little
research on the web about them.

The bad news is that they aren't automatically updated; I suggest you update
them on a daily basis. They themselves provide means to be updated, i.e. by
clicking on some buttons.

Henrique

- Original Message -
From: "Eric Auer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:39 PM
Subject: [Freedos-devel] re: Please confirm...


>
> Just in case you have wondered: This mail was an auto-reply because a
> virus tried to subscribe freedos-devel to a list. Here the start of the
> (truncated) attachment:
>
> 000: 504b 0304 0a00   5247 6530 5d6e  PKRGe0]n
> 010: b022 0056  0056  1200  6174  .".V...V..at
> 020: 7461 6368 6d65 6e74 2e74 7874 2e73 6372  tachment.txt.scr
> 030: 4d5a 9000 0300  0400     MZ..
> ...
> 070: 0e1f ba0e 00b4 09cd 21b8 014c cd21 5468  !..L.!Th
> 080: 6973 2070 726f 6772 616d 2063 616e 6e6f  is program canno
> 090: 7420 6265 2072 756e 2069 6e20 444f 5320  t be run in DOS
> 0a0: 6d6f 6465 2e0d 0d0a 2400     mode$...
> 0b0: 5045  4c01 0300 59f4 3040    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ...
>
> As usual: PLEASE guys, keep your Antivirus stuff up to date. Most of
> the virus mails which my spam filter blocks use a FreeDOS member
> address as the (fake) sender address, so one of you must have a virus
> (otherwise the virus could not know all those addresses). For example
> http://www.free-av.com/ and http://www.bitdefender.com/ and
> http://www.clamav.net/ are even (conditionally) free antivirus software!
>
> Eric.
>
> PS: ...
> 1a0:     5550 5830    UPX0
> ...
> 1d0: 5550 5831   0050  0050 0100  UPX1.P...P..
> ...
> 220: 312e 3234 0055 5058 210c 0902 096b 49d4  1.24.UPX!kI.
> ... UPX is so free, even Viruses like it :-(. Note: This was an
uncompressed ZIP file!
>
>
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