Re: Network Questions
Hello Everyone, I will be staying in a home in Europe for several weeks, where there is a Mac G3 hooked to a broad band connection. The owner says that he has no active proxy and it is set up to work only with his computer. He believes that he has a static connection, but is not sure. He is not opposed to trying a router, or a wireless router, to share the connection, but he doubts it will work with my PB G4. I was also thinking that a switch and an Airport Express might work to keep his Mac connected, and allow my AP Extreme PowerBook to connect wirelessly. It would seem to me that it would have to work, but surely some one out there can tell me with a bit more certainty. Any suggestions? Additionally, I am using a Belkin 54g WiFi router in my office. Belkin claims that my 2.4 GHz is interfering with the wireless connection. Are there wireless routers that are less susceptible to this type of interference? Any help appreciated. Regards, Tom Adams please also send response to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It basically depends on what kind of modem is being used. In some places, like in my country (Portugal) and other countries in Europe, many adsl providers offer packages that include a modem with USB connection (stupid though that is, of course). If that is the case, the simplest option is to share the connection (assuming the G3 is running Mac OS X) through ethernet. I suppose an Airport Express might be connected directly to the G3 so that you can connect wirelessly. If the broadband connection uses an ethernet modem, then you may need a router. Some modems may also act as routers (even if they have only one ethernet port), so in that case a switch could be enough, mas I wouldn't count on that. Luis Sequeira -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Network Questions
From my experience, i don't think there is a need for such convolute scheme. Most people, if they need to change the computer that connects to a cable or dsl modem, just have to turn the modem off so it can accept a connection from a machine with a different MAC address. And changing the modem itself is no big deal at all. Just put the new modem (say, if you decide to replace an adsl usb modem with a wifi modem/router), configure and go. Luís Sequeira The only option for you is to get router that enables you to change MAC address. Most European operators register one MAC address for a location and do not allow any other machines to connect/share the connection. If your friend has Ethernet cable connected to the computer there is some hope. The way to do change his setup is as follows: 1. When his Mac G3 is up open Terminal and run the ifconfig command. Then note the MAC address of his connection (it is the long hex number next to the word 'ether' for his network card - the one that has IP address - e.g. has IP address next to the word inet). 2. Setup the router / wireless hub - in the setup of the WS hub change the MAC address for the external interface to the MAC address you recorded in step 1. Do not plug the network to the hub just yet. 3. Take the network cable from his Mac and plug it into the router, connect other PCs to the network and everything should go fine. Not sure if Belkin supports the custom MAC address, but keep in mind that the crazy Europeans (I'm one of them) have different power source than US (e.g. 220V/50Hz). Good luck. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
On 2/24/05 1:41 AM, Dyna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For some, a Mac is a status symbol like a luxury car and they will pay any amount to obtain one... The last time I saw so much BS I was hauling a honey wagon. People buy Macs for a single reason - it is the tool that works for them. Your analysis, such as it is, leaves out the most important question: The value you place on your time. A PC, running *nix or *doze might cost less than a Mac to acquire, but when I factor in my time the Mac is a much less expensive computer. Or to use my Grandmother's words: Some people know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: OT..OS 10.3.8 Program help needed
Mike K: Go to these links ... http://www.macworld.com/2004/06/reviews/theprintshopmacosxedition1x0/ http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=1617273/ search=The%20Print%20Shop%20for%20Mac I have Printshop for OS X ... I think it is the best version of Printshop, yet. Regards, Bryan F. On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:55 AM, John McGibney wrote: Greetings 'Listas, Sorry for the interruption...Does anyone know of a program similar to the old PrintShop that will work in Panther? I used to use PS heavily before moving to Panther and need a similar program for cards, calendars, banners etc. I amrunning a Pismo 400 that has had Classic removed and I have no idea if it is possible to add Classic or OS 9 w/out having to reformat the hd... Regards and thanks for your indulgence in this matter.. Mike K -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- blf -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or to use my Grandmother's words: Some people know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. Really cool!! I'll keep that for my next PC-Mac argument!! Larry _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: PCs are crap (was Not a PowerBook after all...?
From: Chris H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yep, I wouldn't part with my dawg or my Macs for nuttin honey. Nor would I but I have to speak / meet people some times, and me and my son have 50-60 racing games not available for the Mac... Larry _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Network Questions
Possibly in your country. Not in Czech or Slovak Republic. Majority of ISPs are pretty tough there... Maybe if original poster could let us know which country in Europe he is going to... -- Honza www.lesninoviny.com - Blog z lesu a haju Pennsylvanie (.mac: musiljan) (ICQ: 134361915) (Y!: musiljan) (M: +1 610 570 9349) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Kanga problem diagnosis
I would suggest to disassemble the display as this procedure is not difficult on the 190/5300/3400/3500 (they are more or less the same thing). The cable may be broken or simply the connector. Welcome to the club! When you get a similar Mac for free you end up with a bunch of stuff from e-bay. Imagine that you find a dead 3400/3500 on the e-bay and so you can fix the Kanga. Then you discover that the dead Kanga is actually okay so you spend other nights to look for the stuff to fix this one... it is a never ending story. This is why I complained for the bad design of the Aliminium which cannot be taken apart more than, say 4-5 times! Ben -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:41 PM, Dyna wrote: Perhaps I should clarify that I'm largely comparing hardware here- So was he. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha acy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Old printer connection
I just got my laserwriter back from some laser repair co. near chicago. they really work on HPs and those platform...but they said they did fix it. and yes it kicks out its test sheet. I plugged it in to the wall and using the same cable from my epson i plugged that into the printer, as I don't have a fancy switcheroo thingy so I can have multiple printers. I reinstalled the Laserwriter software... but nobody's home looking in the chooser window... Chooser doesn't recognize it...i have forgotten how to hold my mouth just right with this gizmo as its been 3-4 years since the laserwriter II NTX was my primary printer, and worked. It took a long time to find someone to fix it since the printerman at weingarten's passed away. what am i doing wrong? or am I missing software? thanks for any help you might have to offer. Kristina mac user since the laserwriter was new! G-book user for 3 months -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Old printer connection
On 24/02/05 11:05, Kristina Rost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got my laserwriter back from some laser repair co. near chicago. they really work on HPs and those platform...but they said they did fix it. and yes it kicks out its test sheet. I plugged it in to the wall and using the same cable from my epson i plugged that into the printer, as I don't have a fancy switcheroo thingy so I can have multiple printers. I reinstalled the Laserwriter software... but nobody's home looking in the chooser window... Chooser doesn't recognize it...i have forgotten how to hold my mouth just right with this gizmo as its been 3-4 years since the laserwriter II NTX was my primary printer, and worked. It took a long time to find someone to fix it since the printerman at weingarten's passed away. what am i doing wrong? or am I missing software? thanks for any help you might have to offer. What kind of LaserWriter is this? What version of the old Mac OS are you running? What kind of network connection do you have? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
On 23 Feb2005, at 1:43 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: when you compare Macintosh with similarly equipped PeeCees, most of the time, the Peecees end up being far more expensive than the Mac. That's my experience also. When I recently shopped for a Powerbook, Windoze machines seemed to be cheaper--until I compared the specs. I could have missed something, but my comparisons showed Powerbooks with similar features coming in at the same price or cheaper than PCs. Peter -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:41 PM, Dyna wrote: Perhaps I should clarify that I'm largely comparing hardware here- So was he. OK, so let's compare hardware... I work for America's 3rd largest employer, the Postal Service. They've been sucked into the Micro$oft vortex and the official laptop and desktop OS is Windoze, while the official handheld OS is WinCe. Fortunately the serious computing like reading addresses is done with Linux. Almost all the handheld devices we use died a rapid death, there are a few laptops, and desktops everywhere. The laptops and desktops are supplied by HP/Compaq along with a very profitable service contract. Most of these PCs are assigned to supervisors some of whom have so loaded their hard drives with porn that they can barely do real work. We even have a supervicor who has brought his game input devices to work and plugged them in. The demands on this computing machinery are pretty low- word processing, e-mail, and accessing a web based truck tracking system. The desktops are too new to justify replacing, so probably the best solution for those users would be switching to Linux OS and bringing the tech support in house. One of the advantages of Linux is the ability to set up the porn surfers and game nuts displays for text only... Ultimately these PCs will need replacing and for the desktops the Mac Mini looks attractive. However, it's reliability is still an unknown and it costs twice as much as a PC running Linux. There is however potential for expanding the mobile computing into the trucks. However, given management's view that drivers are too stupid to operate a computer and would abuse them if they could, this is not likely to happen anytime soon. Basicly management sees computers as a control device and a spy in the cab rather than an enabling device for drivers. Thusly the only computers in the truck are unauthorized, like mine. For 3 years I shagged my Pismo to work and it was a wonderful tool, making Postal manuals, union contracts, etc. instantly available in the cab. Unfortunately management was jealous of the Mac's abilities and scared of the potential of a computer enabled employee. In fact, they became so paranoid that they seemed to be looking for justification to subpeona my hard drive. That Pismo is now so unreliable that I don't bring it to work anyway. Now if Apple's premium laptop only lasted 3 years in the truck 40 hours a week when I babied it, how long will an iBook last living in a truck 168 hours a week with sometimes indifferent users? Maybe a year at best I suspect that after the first round of repairs Apple would label the mass failures abuse and refuse to repair them even under AppleCare. Our techs would then be overwhelmed by stacks of dead Mac laptops, waiting forever for overpriced proprietary parts from Apple. I doubt there would be a repeat order... Clearly my employer would need something like a Panasonic ToughBook for their trucks, and even after Windoze was evicted and replaced with Linux it would be far more reliable than any current Mac portable and thusly have a lower lifetime cost. I found an even more elegant solution, a Sharp Zaurus 6000 handheld running Linux OS. It has built in Wi-Fi, does basic word processing, is hardened to the point it is rated for a 1 meter drop, has no hard drive to subpeona, and because it fits in my pocket management doesn't know it exists anyway. None the less, there is still a small market for Apple at one of the world's largest computer buyers- one of our most disliked middle managers has used his discretionary purchasing authority to decorate his top floor corner office with 3 G4 towers and giant LCD displays. He does nothing with them that I can't do on my handheld, and is giving Apple a bad rep amongst his subordinates, who now see Apple as the big bad boss's toy... holding a tiny Linux light in the pitch darkness of Windoze, Dyna -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
The last time I saw so much BS I was hauling a honey wagon. People buy Macs for a single reason - it is the tool that works for them. And you know that because you asked every one of them? Personally, there were many reasons why I bought my first Mac, and the one you mentioned wasn't among them. Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
From: Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] People buy Macs for a single reason - it is the tool that works for them. And you know that because you asked every one of them? Personally, there were many reasons why I bought my first Mac, and the one you mentioned wasn't among them. I am one of the unfortunate people than cannot buy a computer, settle with that and use it for say three years, I am plaigued with a need to buy something else, at least once a month, and I regularly look at buying a PC for various reasons; games, my wifes studies etc. but I always come back to a Mac, because: 1. They always work better, smoother, MUCH less admin 2. Pride! Pride to be differemt, pride to have something that looks better, pride to have something that works better. When I moved back to Sweden from England five years ago and took the job to establish a documentation role in a machine tool manufacturer I was faced with the decision whether to go with the PC they provided me with (which I hated) or to go it alone and get a Mac (IT support knew nothing about Mac). I spoke to Steve Wozniak and we discussed the issue. He came with an answer, not THE answer but enough for me tyo make my mind up and something which will stay with me for as long as Apple's products provide a viable solution; It's a bit like religion, if you believe in something you sometimes have to sacrifice things to go with what you believe in and for me, first and foremost I use a Mac because I WANT TO. Price and feature comparisons don't come into it. Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
Working in the industry I have to say I agree with Larry's assessment of why people use Mac. I think that's why we published the Mac Bible. :) Mimi~ From: Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] People buy Macs for a single reason - it is the tool that works for them. And you know that because you asked every one of them? Personally, there were many reasons why I bought my first Mac, and the one you mentioned wasn't among them. I am one of the unfortunate people than cannot buy a computer, settle with that and use it for say three years, I am plaigued with a need to buy something else, at least once a month, and I regularly look at buying a PC for various reasons; games, my wifes studies etc. but I always come back to a Mac, because: 1. They always work better, smoother, MUCH less admin 2. Pride! Pride to be differemt, pride to have something that looks better, pride to have something that works better. When I moved back to Sweden from England five years ago and took the job to establish a documentation role in a machine tool manufacturer I was faced with the decision whether to go with the PC they provided me with (which I hated) or to go it alone and get a Mac (IT support knew nothing about Mac). I spoke to Steve Wozniak and we discussed the issue. He came with an answer, not THE answer but enough for me tyo make my mind up and something which will stay with me for as long as Apple's products provide a viable solution; It's a bit like religion, if you believe in something you sometimes have to sacrifice things to go with what you believe in and for me, first and foremost I use a Mac because I WANT TO. Price and feature comparisons don't come into it. Larry _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
On Feb 24, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Dyna wrote: On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:41 PM, Dyna wrote: Perhaps I should clarify that I'm largely comparing hardware here- So was he. First it's 'subpoena', and if your employer is doing that to your laptop, you've got more problems than whether you're using Windows, Linux or Mac OS. Second, it's a vast leap from speccing a ruggedized system designed for vehicular use to saying 'PCs are always cheaper than Apples', which is your statement that people are taking issue with. Your entire post was irrelevant to the point that if you compare available laptops, feature for feature you will find that, in fact, Macs ARE largely the same cost as PC's. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha cy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Kanga problem diagnosis
At 7:13 AM +0100 2/24/05, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote: I would suggest to disassemble the display as this procedure is not difficult on the 190/5300/3400/3500 (they are more or less the same thing). The cable may be broken or simply the connector. Welcome to the club! When you get a similar Mac for free you end up with a bunch of stuff from e-bay. Imagine that you find a dead 3400/3500 on the e-bay and so you can fix the Kanga. Then you discover that the dead Kanga is actually okay so you spend other nights to look for the stuff to fix this one... it is a never ending story. Or you buy a 3400 cheap and then spend more than that to buy the drive sled and cable. The one I bought was from a lot that had been scrapped by some company who removed the harddrive (and sled and cable) to protect the data. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
At 12:41 AM -0600 2/24/05, Dyna wrote: . Time and again, when you compare Macintosh with similarly equipped PeeCees, most of the time, the Peecees end up being far more expensive than the Mac. -Laurent. Perhaps I should clarify that I'm largely comparing hardware here- I have refused gifts of bootleg Windoze with no regrets! Looking Mac and PC hardware these days one finds that a lot of the parts (hard drives, optical drives, memory, etc.) are the same. The Power PC is clearly a more powerful and efficent processor, but the PC processor will none the less handle most people's computing tasks capably. As for build quality, many Macs are now built by the same subcontractors that make PCs so there is no Mac advantage. There is a lot more to quality than who builds it. Engineering is far more important. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
Clark Martin wrote: At 12:41 AM -0600 2/24/05, Dyna wrote: Perhaps I should clarify that I'm largely comparing hardware here- I have refused gifts of bootleg Windoze with no regrets! Looking Mac and PC hardware these days one finds that a lot of the parts (hard drives, optical drives, memory, etc.) are the same. The Power PC is clearly a more powerful and efficent processor, but the PC processor will none the less handle most people's computing tasks capably. As for build quality, many Macs are now built by the same subcontractors that make PCs so there is no Mac advantage. There is a lot more to quality than who builds it. Engineering is far more important. Exactly! You can have the best components in the world, but if they are used in a poorly designed unit, it all amounts to a pile of expensive parts which is probably not worth the asking price. With a good design, you wind up with a whole which is actually worth more than the sum of it's parts. And speaking of being not worth the asking price, has anybody seen this yet?: Dirty deeds on dirt-cheap Dells? Dell has been systematically deceiving its customers by advertising low-priced computers that aren't actually available for purchase and changing its financing packages for the worse without notifying customers. That's according to a California law firm that's filed a class-action lawsuit against the PC giant, accusing it of bait and switch, false advertising, and fraud. (From Cnet.) JR -- This sig contains no political, religious, or commercial content whatsoever. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
On 2/24/05 12:11 PM, Marcin Wichary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last time I saw so much BS I was hauling a honey wagon. People buy Macs for a single reason - it is the tool that works for them. And you know that because you asked every one of them? Personally, there were many reasons why I bought my first Mac, and the one you mentioned wasn't among them. I'm so happy for you. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
On Feb 24, 2005, at 1:41 AM, Dyna wrote: . Time and again, when you compare Macintosh with similarly equipped PeeCees, most of the time, the Peecees end up being far more expensive than the Mac. Perhaps I should clarify that I'm largely comparing hardware here Whereas Laurent was comparing oranges to the cost of tea in China. Oh wait, no, he was talking about hardware too. - I have refused gifts of bootleg Windoze with no regrets! bully for you! Looking Mac and PC hardware these days one finds that a lot of the parts (hard drives, optical drives, memory, etc.) are the same. Adventures In Missing the Point, Part 4 If you compare a VW and a Mercedes you will see tires, a steering wheel, seats... does that make them equal? Mac hardware, esp Mac laptops, are almost all shipping with Superdrives. Are you taking that into consideration when you compare Mac and PC hardware costs? The Power PC is clearly a more powerful and efficent processor, but the PC processor will none the less handle most people's computing tasks capably. Yes, but when that processor is going to have to spend a lot of time dealing with spyware and virii, it's going to be much less efficient than in some lab. As for build quality, many Macs are now built by the same subcontractors that make PCs so there is no Mac advantage. Have you ever worked in manufacturing? Have any experience at all with contract work? suppliers? design? In software Macs are clearly far superior to Micro$oft's attempts, but Linux is reasonably user friendly WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP Big time Who are you kidding? alert. and will meet most peoples needs. Given the bugs in OSX, I sometimes wonder why I pay good money for upgrades when I could be having just as much fun tearing my hair out at 3 am trying to make it work running Linux for free... That's hilarious. Linux is still a playground for people who have more time than money. I like that even your own words indicate that you would be assured of tearing your hair out, but it would be free. So how much cost premium is a Mac worth? For the user on a tight budget with basic needs an old PC running Linux will do the job for less than the cost of a Mac. Correction: For the user on a tight budget with plenty of copious free time and a very high comfort level with computers and a willingness to dig under the hood of their computers. For me I figure a 20% premium over PCs is the most I'll pay extra for a Mac. For some, a Mac is a status symbol like a luxury car and they will pay any amount to obtain one... I've had my Mac for almost a year, and it has paid for itself in the time that I have spent using it rather than fixing it. Your average user is a complete myth. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
lists
Hi my isp has been off line for email for 1 day and 20 hrs will i need to re sub to the list as i am now not getting any mail. vicki -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?
If you compare a VW and a Mercedes you will see tires, a steering wheel, seats... does that make them equal? Which VW and Daimler-Chrysler products are you comparing- VW makes cars from the low priced subcompacts up to the Phaeton, Touraeg/Cayanne, Audi, and Bentley and light and medium trucks. Daimler Chrysler competes with VW in every market segment from the A class subcompacts and Neon through several SUVs wearing Dodge, Jeep, and Mercedes badging as well as the traditional Mercedes and Chrysler midrange and luxury cars. Daimler-Chrysler also produces Setra buses, Freightliner, Sterling, and Western Star trucks, Detroit Diesel engines, and owns half of MTM industrial engines. So just what Mercedes and VW were you comparing? Yes, but when that processor is going to have to spend a lot of time dealing with spyware and virii, it's going to be much less efficient than in some lab. And if that processor is running under Linux it will have no more problems with such vermin that a Mac running OSX. That's hilarious. Linux is still a playground for people who have more time than money. I like that even your own words indicate that you would be assured of tearing your hair out, but it would be free. That was partly true 5 years ago. In 1998 I installed Redhat 5.2 on a Mitsubushi AMiTY mini laptop and it was a challenge. A couple months back I installed Suse on a couple year old PC for a friend and it was much easier, taking less than an hour. Correction: For the user on a tight budget with plenty of copious free time and a very high comfort level with computers and a willingness to dig under the hood of their computers. Again, having done a Linux installation recently I know otherwise. Getting complex applications like a screen reader for a blind user can entail some work, but that's an application Apple doesn't offer at any price. I've had my Mac for almost a year, and it has paid for itself in the time that I have spent using it rather than fixing it. That was true of my first Mac, the 333 mhz iMac I'm typing this on. Since then I've probably spent more time trying to make my Pismo work than it took to get Linux running. Your average user is a complete myth. Not entirely- in any mass market product like computers the majority will make similar uses of them. In the case of computers these uses tend to be stuff like web surfing, e-mail, etc. For those purposes any Mac or Linux running PC will do the job. But for some users that do stuff like video production, etc. the fastest Mac available is entirely justified. My loathed manager at work would be better off with just one terminal so he would be less distracted from doing his job. Dyna -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: lists
Hi my isp has been off line for email for 1 day and 20 hrs will i need to re sub to the list as i am now not getting any mail. vicki Vicki, Your message came through loud and clear on G-Books, PCI-PowerMacs, and PowerBooks at least... You can probably stop cross posting now. ;-) Peace, Drew -- Author of ClassicStumbler email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.alksoft.com/ Visit the PowerBook 5300 FAQ! http://www.alksoft.com/5300_FAQ/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
problem mounting CDs
I have a Titanium Mercury (G4/400MHz). I'm now on my third CD/DVD drive. The first one stopped mounting discs after a year or so, the second one another year or two. I just bought and installed a refurbished one a couple of weeks ago and almost immediately started having trouble mounting discs. The same thing always happens. I insert the CD, it gets sucked in, it spins for a second or two, then stops. Then nothing happens. There doesn't seem to be any way to tell OSX that there's a disc in there. I then restart and try again. I have an external firewire CDRW that has no problems. I'm wondering if the problem isn't with the drives but with the Powerbook itself. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
