Re: Power mac G4 Quicksilver Cpu upgrade
On May 24, 2010, at 10:40 PM, David Gardner wrote: Sure, go to Otherworld Computing and select your version of Quicksilver to upgrade. A dual 1.0 GHz QS 2002 (or the processor from one in a DA) takes about 1 hour to encode a DVD5. A relatively fast Intel can do the same job in less than 12 minutes ... an 8-to-1 advantage to Intel. The bottlenecks on the old G4s are hard to overcome: slow 133 MHz bus v. 800 or even 1066 MHz on an Intel; huge caches on many C2D or C2Q Intels; slow ATA/66 channels on a G4 v. 3.0 Gbps SATA on an Intel. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power mac G4 Quicksilver Cpu upgrade
On May 25, 2:20 am, Peter Haas peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: A dual 1.0 GHz QS 2002 (or the processor from one in a DA) takes about 1 hour to encode a DVD5. A relatively fast Intel can do the same job in less than 12 minutes ... an 8-to-1 advantage to Intel. The bottlenecks on the old G4s are hard to overcome: slow 133 MHz bus v. 800 or even 1066 MHz on an Intel; huge caches on many C2D or C2Q Intels; slow ATA/66 channels on a G4 v. 3.0 Gbps SATA on an Intel. have you ever bothered to check Activity Monitor before leaping to a conclusion about what is actually the bottleneck? when i hear anyone say that the ATA controller (or even worse yet, the bus speed) is a bottleneck, i want to pull out some hair (very little left). 66MHz x 64bits = 528 MB/s, therefore the onboard ATA controller in a G4 is about 10-20x faster than the internal read/write of ANY single PATA HD, so it's NOT a bottleneck, the clunky old HD is the bottleneck!!! encoding a DVD means writing to the HD. before leaping to any wildly unjustified conclusions, maybe you should actually check the Activity Monitor. i'll bet you'll find that the processors on the 1gigDP are not maxed out. i put a SATA controller in my QS 1gigDP and a new 1TB HD with an internal read/write speed of 120MB/s, and it rips DVDs FASTER than my 3.3gig intel mac with a slower HD, because the processor speed is NOT the limiting factor. and for compressing the ripped DVD (which actually does max out the processors), the intel mac is LESS than 3 times faster than the QS 1gigDP. i have an intel mac ONLY because the software vendors have blackmailed me into buying one. the intel chip is grossly inferior to the PPC chips, and the newertech 7448 processors are faster than any G4 chip apple ever used, so an upgrade from OWC is not a bad option at all, so long as your software doesn't require the intel processor. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power mac G4 Quicksilver Cpu upgrade
On May 24, 3:17 pm, killajay41889 jonathancasimir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi im new to mac and i got a old G4 for 20 bucks and it works okay but im really looking into upgradeing the cpu for something with a bit more juice is there a way to do so one other thing i forgot to mention. for my comparison of ripping DVDs, i used the same DVD drive for both the intel machine and the QS. the rate at which an older OEM DVD from a QS can read is probably the real limiting factor if you were comparing that task on an old G4 and a newer intel mac. i thought that would go without saying, but in the interest of absolute clarity, i guess i should mention this, too. so if you do upgrade the processor, remember where the real bottlenecks are, and that is usually I/O. if you need to read or write big files, upgrade the HD and pay attention to the sustained internal transfer rate. you can test this with a number of utilities, like Hard Disk Speed Tools, etc. if you have to read/write to the optical drive, upgrade the DVD. if you're moving large files over a net, upgrade the connection. so long as you have apps that don't require an intel processor, an upgraded G4 is a smokin fast and thoroughly reliable computer (unlike G5s and intel macs), that will give you years of dependable service (unlike g5s and intel macs). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Power mac G4 Quicksilver Cpu upgrade
Hi im new to mac and i got a old G4 for 20 bucks and it works okay but im really looking into upgradeing the cpu for something with a bit more juice is there a way to do so -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power mac G4 Quicksilver Cpu upgrade
On 05/24/2010 12:17 PM, killajay41889 wrote: Hi im new to mac and i got a old G4 for 20 bucks and it works okay but im really looking into upgradeing the cpu for something with a bit more juice is there a way to do so Sure, go to Otherworld Computing and select your version of Quicksilver to upgrade. Then you'll get a list of the various upgrades that you can do for that model. http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Models.cfm?TI=3339 You should also max out your RAM as well, with as much as your model will take. But you should also know, and you will see once you get to OWC, that a fast CPU upgrade can cost more than it would cost you to just go ahead and buy a more current model Mac. Even if you upgrade the CPU in that Quicksilver, you'll still have a G4 PPC, just a bit of a faster one. There's absolutely nothing wrong with PPC, mind you. I have seven of them myself doing various chores on my network, but they will never be able to run modern software written solely for Intel based Macs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repairing a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver 2002 and getting it running again
On 8/30/09 10:04 PM, Robert Menes of viewtiful.icc...@gmail.com sent Hi everyone, I have a Power Mac G4 (Quicksilver 2002, 800 MHz) that needs a little repair work done on it. My girlfriend got the machine from a neighbor of hers, and it needed RAM and a video card. A friend of mine supplied the needed parts to me (384MB of RAM and an ATI Rage video card; unsure of exact model). I installed the parts into the machine today, and tried to power it up. The first thing I heard was a horribly loud grinding noise coming from one of the fans. It wasn't the fan in the PSU, but the second fan that sits underneath the PSU. So when I unscrewed the metal cage surrounding the fan, I discovered that the fan itself was badly cracked, and the blades were grinding against the edge of the fan. The fan part is a Sensflow DC Brushless; model # WFC1212B. This is the first repair I need to make. \ Hi Robert, Wait a few seconds and some one from the Swap list will be offering you a spare part. :-) If you are not a member of the LEM Swap List, by all means join; one of the best resources to obtain used parts for Macs at reasonable, better-than- eBay prices. The second problem involves any attempt to install or boot Mac OS X. I tried three different OSes: Mac OS 9.2, Mac OS X 10.0.3, and Mac OS X 10.2. Mac OS 9.2 starts, but then stops with a system error. OS X 10.0.3 starts booting, then kernel panics at the Happy Mac. OS X 10.2 also starts, but then crashes at the grey Apple logo. I'm wondering if the hard drive in this Mac may also be bad; no system is detected on it at all. I even tried switching the drive with another (the original drive was an 80GB Western Digital; the replacement is a 60GB WD). Alas, no dice. Would anyone on this list be able to tell me where I can perhaps find a replacement fan to replace the broken one, and also perhaps have an idea what could be wrong with my system, and why any Mac OS version I try running craps out? Thanks! Most likely, regarding your boot-up problems, is that the RAM provided for you is bad, and/or incompatible with OS X (which is pretty particular of its RAM - a failed install is a good indicator that the RAM is unacceptable for OS X standards. OS X.2 requires a minimum of 128Mb (iirc) RAM. Boot up with one stick at a time (using OS 10.2) and see if any of them are successful (zap the PRAM and reset the motherboard while you're at it). Hopefully, at least one stick will be good so you can proceed with installation, admittedly rather sluggishly. Then get more RAM at the Swaplist. I would avoid any OS upgrades (to 10.3, 10.4.x) until you are able to up the RAM, and until you're able to check the firmware version. HTH, Dana --Robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
Thanks to everyone for all the good suggestions. The Quicksilver is working fine. It sees the dual 1 GHz processor and boots fine but I don't see any significant increase in speed, from 800 Mhz to dual 1 GHz. The major issue is that the Quicksilver does not now connect to the internet. Neither Firefox nor Safari connects. Safari diagnosis says that there is no ethernet connection though it is physically connected (I'll check the Safari preferences after posting this, just in case!). When it was a 800 MHz machine it had no problem connecting. My G5 Quad 2.5 GHz connects (what I'm using to type this post) without any problems as does the 9600 as well as the Titanium. I'm using a linksys cable/dsl router connected to a verizon dsl modem. Any suggestions? TIA, Pete. --- On Tue, 2/24/09, PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: From: PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 3:00 PM On Feb 24, 2009, at 11:57 AM, PETE wrote: Suppose I don't use anything and just place the heatsink on the processor. Any harm in that? The faster G4s are really thermally challenged, and need all the help they can get. Two options: a new washer (that thing which Apple used) or the addition of a small amount of thermal paste. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
You might need to setup the network connection in System Preferences Network again. Delete the first one ... create a new one. A simple Restart was all I needed to do when I upgraded my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz from 10.5.4 to 10.5.6. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio On Feb 25, 2009, at 4:07 PM, PETE wrote: Thanks to everyone for all the good suggestions. The Quicksilver is working fine. It sees the dual 1 GHz processor and boots fine but I don't see any significant increase in speed, from 800 Mhz to dual 1 GHz. The major issue is that the Quicksilver does not now connect to the internet. Neither Firefox nor Safari connects. Safari diagnosis says that there is no ethernet connection though it is physically connected (I'll check the Safari preferences after posting this, just in case!). When it was a 800 MHz machine it had no problem connecting. My G5 Quad 2.5 GHz connects (what I'm using to type this post) without any problems as does the 9600 as well as the Titanium. I'm using a linksys cable/dsl router connected to a verizon dsl modem. Any suggestions? TIA, Pete. --- On Tue, 2/24/09, PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: From: PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 3:00 PM On Feb 24, 2009, at 11:57 AM, PETE wrote: Suppose I don't use anything and just place the heatsink on the processor. Any harm in that? The faster G4s are really thermally challenged, and need all the help they can get. Two options: a new washer (that thing which Apple used) or the addition of a small amount of thermal paste. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
On Feb 24, 2009, at 7:23 AM, PETE wrote: I have a Arctic Silver Thermal Compound. Should I apply this to the heatsink before dropping it on top of the processor? (I finally have the time to complete this project!). Arctic Silver is good, but it is conductive. You should apply it according to instructions, which specify that the AS substance should be squeezed onto an intermediate surface which is smooth and impermeable, and from that a very small amount should be applied to the heat conducting surface of the chip. Silicone is a little more forgiving as it is not conductive of electricity. In their initial installation, Apple used a heat conductive, but electrically nonconductive film. These are occasionally available from specialty suppliers. About $1 apiece, as I recall. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
I have a Arctic Silver Thermal Compound. Should I apply this to the heatsink before dropping it on top of the processor? (I finally have the time to complete this project!). Thanks, Pete. --- On Tue, 1/13/09, PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: From: PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 9:58 PM On Jan 13, 2009, at 9:49 PM, PETE wrote: I have an 800Mhz powermac g4 quicksilver. I'm planning on upgrading it using a dual IGhz processor. Do I need to make any modifications (I may have asked this question before but lost (accidentally erased!) the emails containing the answers. No, just remove the old fan, heatsink and processor (in that order), and install the new processor heatsink and fan (in that oder). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
Suppose I don't use anything and just place the heatsink on the processor. Any harm in that?TIA. Pete. --- On Tue, 2/24/09, PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com wrote: From: PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 7:40 AM On Feb 24, 2009, at 7:23 AM, PETE wrote: I have a Arctic Silver Thermal Compound. Should I apply this to the heatsink before dropping it on top of the processor? (I finally have the time to complete this project!). Arctic Silver is good, but it is conductive. You should apply it according to instructions, which specify that the AS substance should be squeezed onto an intermediate surface which is smooth and impermeable, and from that a very small amount should be applied to the heat conducting surface of the chip. Silicone is a little more forgiving as it is not conductive of electricity. In their initial installation, Apple used a heat conductive, but electrically nonconductive film. These are occasionally available from specialty suppliers. About $1 apiece, as I recall. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
On Feb 24, 2009, at 2:57 PM, PETE wrote: Suppose I don't use anything and just place the heatsink on the processor. Any harm in that?TIA. Pete. As long as you don't turn on the system there will be no harm. Once you turn it on, all bets are off. I would not run a processor without a heat sink compound for more than a few seconds. I have done that when I put a modded QS processor in my DA and fired it up just long enough to hear the start up chime to make sure everything is working before I reassemble it. Heck, you can probably find someone on the swap list with 1/2 tube left over from an upgrade who would sell it to you for a buck or 2, shipped. Why take a chance? Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
On Feb 24, 2009, at 12:57 PM, PETE wrote: Suppose I don't use anything and just place the heatsink on the processor. Any harm in that?TIA. Pete. Well, the system makes a good anchor when the CPU burns up. VERY bad idea. Seriously, go google Replacing CPU heatsinks you'll find a lot of info, 99% about PCs but in this instance, there's no difference between the Mac and the PC. Remove the heatsink. Clean the old compound off the CPU, and the correspondign contact area of the heatsink; you may need to use a razor blade to scrape it off, you may need to use isopropyl on a Q-tip. place a tiny amount of Arctic Silver in the center of the cpu or the heatsink contact area. By timy I mean a blob a 5 mm in diameter. Attach heatsink, making sure all four corners are properly secured to provide even pressure across the CPU. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
Actually I do have Arctive Silver 5 (High Density Polysnthetic Silver Thermal Compound). I'm just worried because I noticed in their website that this compound was being recommended for Intel and AMD processors (which of course doesn't mean that it can't be used on a mac). I'm just taking into account the sage advice from Pete H about this particular compound being conductive. I was trying to avoid the Fry's trip, but I suppose I'll have to make it after all, and look for a silicone compound. TIA. Pete. --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: From: Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 12:07 PM On Feb 24, 2009, at 2:57 PM, PETE wrote: Suppose I don't use anything and just place the heatsink on the processor. Any harm in that?TIA. Pete. As long as you don't turn on the system there will be no harm. Once you turn it on, all bets are off. I would not run a processor without a heat sink compound for more than a few seconds. I have done that when I put a modded QS processor in my DA and fired it up just long enough to hear the start up chime to make sure everything is working before I reassemble it. Heck, you can probably find someone on the swap list with 1/2 tube left over from an upgrade who would sell it to you for a buck or 2, shipped. Why take a chance? Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:27 PM, PETE wrote: Actually I do have Arctive Silver 5 (High Density Polysnthetic Silver Thermal Compound). I'm just worried because I noticed in their website that this compound was being recommended for Intel and AMD processors (which of course doesn't mean that it can't be used on a mac). I'm just taking into account the sage advice from Pete H about this particular compound being conductive. I was trying to avoid the Fry's trip, but I suppose I'll have to make it after all, and look for a silicone compound. TIA. Pete. Heat sink compound is heat sink compound. Does not matter if you are putting it on an Intel, AMD, 8086, 80286, Z80, Pent 4, Core Duo, Sparc, Cray, PPC 601, 604e, G3, G4 or even an overclocked Commodore VIC20, it will work the same. Just remember, a LITTLE dab 'll do ya and you will be fine using what you have. To give you an idea, I have a 1/4 oz tube of Radio Schlock compound that I have used on at least 5 processors, and it is still over 1/2 full. As long as you remember you are just trying to fill the microscopic and slightly larger scratches between 2 flat metal plates that will be clamped together. As a quantity example, place a very small dap on your thumb and squeeze it between your thumb and forefinger and see what oozes out the sides. There is a lot more space between your fingers than between the processor and heat sink. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
Thanks. Actually, i ended up using the Artive Silver. Now I'm heading home to try the computer. --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: From: Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 12:44 PM On Feb 24, 2009, at 3:27 PM, PETE wrote: Actually I do have Arctive Silver 5 (High Density Polysnthetic Silver Thermal Compound). I'm just worried because I noticed in their website that this compound was being recommended for Intel and AMD processors (which of course doesn't mean that it can't be used on a mac). I'm just taking into account the sage advice from Pete H about this particular compound being conductive. I was trying to avoid the Fry's trip, but I suppose I'll have to make it after all, and look for a silicone compound. TIA. Pete. Heat sink compound is heat sink compound. Does not matter if you are putting it on an Intel, AMD, 8086, 80286, Z80, Pent 4, Core Duo, Sparc, Cray, PPC 601, 604e, G3, G4 or even an overclocked Commodore VIC20, it will work the same. Just remember, a LITTLE dab 'll do ya and you will be fine using what you have. To give you an idea, I have a 1/4 oz tube of Radio Schlock compound that I have used on at least 5 processors, and it is still over 1/2 full. As long as you remember you are just trying to fill the microscopic and slightly larger scratches between 2 flat metal plates that will be clamped together. As a quantity example, place a very small dap on your thumb and squeeze it between your thumb and forefinger and see what oozes out the sides. There is a lot more space between your fingers than between the processor and heat sink. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
On Feb 24, 2009, at 11:57 AM, PETE wrote: Suppose I don't use anything and just place the heatsink on the processor. Any harm in that? The faster G4s are really thermally challenged, and need all the help they can get. Two options: a new washer (that thing which Apple used) or the addition of a small amount of thermal paste. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
On Feb 24, 2009, at 2:57 PM, PETE wrote: Suppose I don't use anything and just place the heatsink on the processor. Any harm in that?TIA. Pete. Pete, I would install the heat-sink using the silver paste. There are any number of of people on the LEM site that will help. I have a QS that was rendered unusable because of heat problems and a new heat- sink cooling fan and re-seating the heat sink made a new one out of it. The most important thing to beware of is using too much silver paste, the suggested amount is, as I recall, the size of a BB shot. Anymore and the possibility exists that it will flow out and down into the electrical components and short them out, ruining your mother board. Heat conduction is the object here and the silver paste enhances heat conduction. Go for it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
I have an 800Mhz powermac g4 quicksilver. I'm planning on upgrading it using a dual IGhz processor. Do I need to make any modifications (I may have asked this question before but lost (accidentally erased!) the emails containing the answers. Thanks. Peter. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Power Mac G4 Quicksilver
On Jan 13, 2009, at 9:49 PM, PETE wrote: I have an 800Mhz powermac g4 quicksilver. I'm planning on upgrading it using a dual IGhz processor. Do I need to make any modifications (I may have asked this question before but lost (accidentally erased!) the emails containing the answers. No, just remove the old fan, heatsink and processor (in that order), and install the new processor heatsink and fan (in that oder). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
