[google-appengine] Python AppEngine down

[Justin]

Hi,

My Python app has been unavailable since approx 06:52 UTC today; looks like 
the app can't find the AppEngine runtime libraries; is this a general outage 
?

Thanks,

Justin

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[google-appengine] Re: Python AppEngine down

[Justin]

Apologies, my error; left a trailing bracket in an import library :-(

On Mar 22, 7:02 am, Justin  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My Python app has been unavailable since approx 06:52 UTC today; looks like
> the app can't find the AppEngine runtime libraries; is this a general outage
> ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Prerelease SDK 1.4.3 now available for download

[Jeff Schnitzer]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Matija  wrote:
> Can you explain 'concurrent requests for Java' ?

(warning: I don't work for the big G)

Believe it or not, all GAE/Java requests are all single-threaded right
now... similar to the GAE/Python architecture.  It doesn't matter much
for your app since GAE spins up as many instances as necessary to
handle load, but it's inefficient - especially considering the ~75MB
memory footprint of each JVM compares unfavorably to ~13 for a Python
VM.  Looks like that restriction is about to be removed.

Google:  Why not just make this the default?  Or at least announce
that it will become the future default, so people don't start counting
on single-threaded behavior.  Presumably we've all been coding to the
servlet API, which is very specific about thread behavior.  I don't
think anyone realized that requests were single-threaded, and if they
coded with this (undocumented and spec-violating) assumption, they
deserve to have their apps break.

I imagine that you could cut down the total # of instances running in
the cluster by a significant factor (2x, 3x, more?) this way.  My hope
is that this efficiency will ultimately lead to a cheaper and faster
appengine... but people need some incentive not to use "single thread
mode".

Jeff

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RE: [google-appengine] Re: Python AppEngine down

[Brandon Wirtz]

If you version your pushes you can always check if you blew something up by
failing back to a last good version with the 1.myapp.appspot.com 



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Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Python AppEngine down

Apologies, my error; left a trailing bracket in an import library :-(

On Mar 22, 7:02 am, Justin  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My Python app has been unavailable since approx 06:52 UTC today; looks 
> like the app can't find the AppEngine runtime libraries; is this a 
> general outage ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin

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[google-appengine] What's the syntax of the cron job for "the first day of every month"?

[王宇辉]

Hey, I want to generate a monthly report on the first day of the month, any
idea on doing this with cron jobs?

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: email sent by GAE would be regarded as spam for some email services

[Eric Ka Ka Ng]

me 2. Have integrated the SES service within our GAE apps.  work good and
solved our problems

sure it would be more nice if GAE can provide email service at the quality
level similar to the Amazon SES one (at least would not be classified as
SPAM), so we dont need to manage both . could we make this suggestion to GAE
team?

- eric


On 22 March 2011 05:30, Jamie H  wrote:

> Wow, great idea!  I have been having some delivery issues lately with
> GAE and looking for an alternative.
>
> I just downloaded a pythong Amazon SES library, signed up for SES, and
> put it all together and it works like a charm with GAE!
>
> On Mar 20, 10:31 pm, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
> > Hi Eric,
> >
> > Have you looked at Amazon's Simple Email Service (SES)?
> >
> > http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
> >
> > Pretty much the same cost as sending email using GAE, except with SES you
> > only get 2,000 free emails if you're sending email from an EC2 instance.
> >
> > I haven't used it myself but apparently they scan outgoing mail to make
> sure
> > it meets "ISP standards". This leads me to believe emails sent via SES
> would
> > be less likely to be automatically marked as spam than on GAE, since
> SES's
> > spam-sending-reputation would be lower than GAE's, due to their
> > pre-filtering and rate-limiting.
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > On 21 March 2011 13:51, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ernesto,
> >
> > > thx for your suggestion! yes, i think it shall work.
> >
> > > but in general if we can't ask all our users to add our email to their
> > > contact list (or they are not willing to do so), how can emails sent by
> us
> > > prevent to be regarded as spam? all our subject, body etc. are nothing
> > > spam-liked, and seems it's the problem of the email server that
> actually
> > > sends the email. anyone share similar case, or has other solution?
> >
> > > regards,
> > > eric
> >
> > > On 19 March 2011 00:12, Ernesto Karim Oltra  >wrote:
> >
> > >> Ask the user to add the e-mail from address of your e-mails to their
> > >> contacts list, so your e-mails would never been sent to spam again
> > >> (for that users, at least).
> >
> > >> It's a bit hacky, but can do a great work meanwhile you find another
> > >> solution.
> >
> > >> On 18 mar, 07:52, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
> > >> > we use mail.send_mail() to send some important messages to our users
> > >> through
> > >> > an app hosted on GAE, in which the 'from' has been set to one of a
> > >> > registered admin for the app.
> >
> > >> > it works quite well for most users, except for some email service
> > >> provider
> > >> > (e.g. '...@yahoo.com.hk'), they would always automatically treat
> these
> > >> emails
> > >> > as spam and put them into spam box of the user's email account (if
> the
> > >> user
> > >> > has enabled the spam filtering feature, which is by default "ON") .
> in
> > >> this
> > >> > case, many of our users do not aware for these important messages
> (they
> > >> > would seldom look into mails in their spambox)
> >
> > >> > we have tried using different "from", "subject", "body" and the
> results
> > >> are
> > >> > the same. we suspect that it is the email server does matter, and
> maybe
> > >> > before there were some other apps hosted on GAE sending spams to
> like '@
> > >> > yahoo.com.hk', so '...@yahoo.com.hk' would regard all emails sent
> from
> > >> this
> > >> > email server in GAE as spam.
> >
> > >> > do anyone share similar experiences? or there should be other
> causes?
> > >> any
> > >> > ideas we can solve this problem? (successfully deliver the email to
> our
> > >> > users using those email service without being regarded as spam) thx
> in
> > >> > advanced!
> >
> > >> > - eric
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Re: RE: [google-appengine] HR Issues (But Up time is great)

[Simon Knott]

I'm glad to hear it's now working for you!

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Prerelease SDK 1.4.3 now available for download

[Simon Knott]

I agree with Jeff - anyone who is used to developing with a servlet 
container realises that they are dealing with a multi-threaded environment 
and should already be coding with this in mind.

I'm honestly really surprised that this support isn't there already - 
thankfully it's performed well enough that it hasn't been noticable!

A quick question for the Google team - will the multi-request handler 
behaviour be rolled out into the local development server as well, or is 
this only being enabled for the production environment?

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[google-appengine] Re: GQL performance slow

[adhi]

Hi Ikai, is there a measure to say the entities are large? is it about
the number of
columns or blob or text? if so in my entities I have string and number
properties only.

Yes. I need all the 2000 (some times bit more) entities at once for
reporting.
Currently I'm not seeing a way where I can split the keys and fetch.


On Mar 21, 11:54 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)"  wrote:
> If that's the performance, then I'm inclined to say the entities are large
> and that's about the performance you can expect. One more thing to keep in
> mind: the cost of deserializing each entity is non-trivial.
>
> Is there a reason you need all 2000 entities? Perhaps there is a different
> way to accomplish what you want without querying a (relatively) large number
> of entities at once.
>
> One other possible solution that will at least make your user facing code
> run faster is to split the query up by key, perform multiple async queries
> and join them at the end. It'll still consume the same (or more) CPU time,
> but the user ms should be lower since you are doing things in parallel. The
> tradeoff here, of course, is that you'd need to know how you can split up
> the keyspace.
>
> Ikai Lan
> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:17 AM, adhi  wrote:
> > q = db.Query(PrimaryData)
> > q.filter('SheetMetadataId', metadata.getSheetId())
> > return q.fetch(2000)
>
> > Hi Ikai, even the above query takes 3.3 ~ 3.6 seconds. The number of
> > entities returned by the query is 1261.
> > I'm using Expando model, the total number columns for this particular
> > set of entities are 25.
> > Yes. I've created composite index. Here is the index definition.
>
> > - kind: PrimaryData
> >  properties:
> >  - name: SheetMetadataId
> >  - name: InstanceAssignedTo
>
> > please let me know if you need more information.
>
> > On Mar 17, 11:50 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)"  wrote:
> > > If you have a composite index, the performance of this query should be
> > > mostly linear (find start location of index and just return min(2000,
> > number
> > > of entities that satisfy query from there on out) number of keys and
> > items.
> > > If you only have individual indexes for SheetMetadataId as well as
> > > InstanceAssignedTo, this uses zigzag merge join, where performance can
> > > greatly vary depending on the shape of the data.
>
> > > Just out of curiosity, what is the performance of this query?
>
> > > q = db.Query(PrimaryData)
> > > q.filter('SheetMetadataId', metadata.getSheetId())
> > > return q.fetch(2000)
>
> > > If it's in a similar ballpark, my other guess is that the query takes
> > that
> > > amount of time because the entities are large.
>
> > > You mentioned created a composite index. Can you post that?
>
> > > I'll talk to the datastore team to see what we can do to provide
> > something
> > > similar to EXPLAIN plans for queries.
>
> > > Ikai Lan
> > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
>
> > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:07 AM, adhi  wrote:
> > > > Hi Robert,
> > > > I've not used reference properties. Its a simple query and it'll be
> > > > like this.
>
> > > > q = db.Query(PrimaryData)
> > > > q.filter('SheetMetadataId', metadata.getSheetId())
> > > > q.filter('InstanceAssignedTo IN',
> > > > [u'User_c42e8919_448e_11e0_b87b_f58d20c6e2c3',
> > > > u'User_1fd87ac5_073d_11e0_8ba1_c122a5867c4a'])
> > > > return q.fetch(2000)
>
> > > > and I replaced the IN filter to '=' with single value. Still its
> > > > taking same time.
>
> > > > On Mar 17, 6:27 am, Robert Kluin  wrote:
> > > > > Use Appstats. It may not be the query that is slow.  If you are using
> > > > > reference properties, perhaps you are dereferencing them.  If you
> > > > > should us the query and how you're using the results we might be abel
> > > > > to give more suggestions.
>
> > > > >http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/appstats.html
>
> > > > > Robert
>
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:54, adhi  wrote:
> > > > > > Hi, I'm running a query in appengine which is returning just 1200
> > > > > > entities, but its taking 3.5 seconds. The query doesn't contains
> > > > > > inequality filters, but anyway I added index for that. Can anyone
> > tell
> > > > > > me how to analyse this and improve theperformance?
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[google-appengine] Re: emails are not received

[VTR Ravi Kumar]

hi Binu,

You can have multiple cname entries like
mail..com - ghs.google.com
docs..com - ghs.google.com
Calendar..com - ghs.google.com
blog..com - ghs.google.com

etc.,

On Mar 12, 1:13 pm, Binu vm  wrote:
> Hi Ravi,
>
> Thanks for the quick reply.
> I have added one cname entry.
> Should I enter another cname entry for email as well?
>
> Thanks
> Binu.V.M
>
> On Mar 12, 12:54 pm, VTR Ravi Kumar  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Binu,
>
> > Does the domain provider allow you to create the cname entries like
> > mail..com - ghs.google.com
>
> > Thanks
>
> > Ravi
>
> > On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Binu vm  wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > Hello,
>
> > > I have one domain.That domain has been mapped to google app engine.
> > > Now we have successfully created 2-3 email accounts. Now the problem
> > > is
> > > those email accounts are not able to receive any mails from any
> > > domain. But we are able to
> > > send mail to any domain. The problem what I have noticed is the domain
> > > name which is
> > > hosted on a free domain hosting. There it does not support free email
> > > accounts.
> > > Could that be a problem?
>
> > > In the application settings-> Configured Services it is showing two
> > > serivces has been enabled.
>
> > > 1. Incomeing Email
> > > 2. Warmup Requests
>
> > > Request you to help on this issue.
>
> > > Thanks
> > > Binu.V.M
>
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Re: [google-appengine] What's the syntax of the cron job for "the first day of every month"?

[Robert Kluin]

Hi,
  Have you tried:

cron:
- description: monthly summary job
  url: /tasks/summary/monthly
  schedule: 1 of month 00:00




Robert







On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 04:12, 王宇辉  wrote:
> Hey, I want to generate a monthly report on the first day of the month, any
> idea on doing this with cron jobs?
>
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[google-appengine] Re: Prerelease SDK 1.4.3 now available for download

[Adam]

Thanks for the fantastic news Ikai. Can't wait to play with the pre-
release when I finish work today :)

Keep up the great work!

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[google-appengine] Can't create a new app using the Google App Engine...

[Tony O Dowd]

I've created my first App on the Google App Engine and everything went
well, however, now when I try to create a new application it asks me
to Verify my Account using SMS. As I've already done this previously,
it will not allow me to specify my phone number again. I've tried
using other phone numbers but it just won't let me past this
verification screen

Anybody experience a similar problem and have a solution?

Thanks in advance,

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[google-appengine] Re: Gobo-tools

[knj77]

Hi,

It seems like a same problem as
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4603

How about follow above?

-knj77


On Mar 22, 1:51 pm, VHT Corp  wrote:
> hi!
>
> i work with Google App Engine, I used Gobo-tools to backup and
> restores data, i has an erorr:
>
> Problem accessing /gobo/dump/start.gobo. Reason:
>
>     java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to complete the HTTP request
>
> Caused by:
>
> java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to
> complete the HTTP request
>         at gobo.GoboServlet.processReguest(GoboServlet.java:55)
>         at gobo.GoboServlet.doPost(GoboServlet.java:20)
>         at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:637)
>         at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:717)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java:
> 511)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler
> $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1166)
>         at
> com.google.appengine.api.blobstore.dev.ServeBlobFilter.doFilter(ServeBlobFi 
> lter.java:
> 51)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler
> $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
>         at
> com.google.apphosting.utils.servlet.TransactionCleanupFilter.doFilter(Trans 
> actionCleanupFilter.java:
> 43)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler
> $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
>         at
> com.google.appengine.tools.development.StaticFileFilter.doFilter(StaticFile 
> Filter.java:
> 122)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler
> $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:
> 388)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.security.SecurityHandler.handle(SecurityHandler.java:
> 216)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.SessionHandler.handle(SessionHandler.java:
> 182)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java:
> 765)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.handle(WebAppContext.java:
> 418)
>         at
> com.google.apphosting.utils.jetty.DevAppEngineWebAppContext.handle(DevAppEn 
> gineWebAppContext.java:
> 70)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:
> 152)
>         at com.google.appengine.tools.development.JettyContainerService
> $ApiProxyHandler.handle(JettyContainerService.java:351)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:
> 152)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.Server.handle(Server.java:326)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handleRequest(HttpConnection.java:
> 542)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection
> $RequestHandler.content(HttpConnection.java:938)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseNext(HttpParser.java:755)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseAvailable(HttpParser.java:218)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:404)
>         at
> org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectChannelEndPoint.run(SelectChannelEndPoint.java:
> 409)
>         at org.mortbay.thread.QueuedThreadPool
> $PoolThread.run(QueuedThreadPool.java:582)
> Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to complete the HTTP
> request
>         at
> com.google.apphosting.utils.security.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceStreamHandler
> $Connection.getHeaderFields(URLFetchServiceStreamHandler.java:218)
>         at
> com.google.apphosting.utils.security.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceStreamHandler
> $Connection.getHeaderFields(URLFetchServiceStreamHandler.java:74)
>         at
> com.google.gdata.client.http.HttpGDataRequest.isOAuthProxyErrorResponse(Htt 
> pGDataRequest.java:
> 558)
>         at
> com.google.gdata.client.http.HttpGDataRequest.checkResponse(HttpGDataReques 
> t.java:
> 549)
>         at
> com.google.gdata.client.http.HttpGDataRequest.execute(HttpGDataRequest.java :
> 530)
>         at
> com.google.gdata.client.http.GoogleGDataRequest.execute(GoogleGDataRequest. 
> java:
> 535)
>         at com.google.gdata.client.Service.insert(Service.java:1409)
>         at com.google.gdata.client.GoogleService.insert(GoogleService.java:
> 599)
>         at
> com.google.gdata.client.media.MediaService.insert(MediaService.java:
> 381)
>         at
> gobo.service.GbSpreadsheetService.createSpreadsheet(GbSpreadsheetService.ja 
> va:
> 200)
>         at gobo.controller.dump.StartController.runAuth(StartController.java:
> 45)
>         at gobo.AuthSubBase.run(AuthSubBase.java:70)
>         at gobo.GoboServlet.processReguest(GoboServlet.java:43)
>         ... 28 more
> Caused by: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: Could not verify SSL
> certificate for:https://docs.google.com/feeds/default/private/full/
>         at
> com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.convertApplicationExc 
> eption(URLFetchServiceImpl.java:
> 114)
>         at
> com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.fetch(URLFetchService 
> Impl.java:
> 41)
>

[google-appengine] Re: Gobo-tools

[knj77]

Hi,

It seems like the same problem as
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=4603
How about following the above?

Thanks,
Kenji,


On Mar 22, 1:51 pm, VHT Corp  wrote:
> hi!
>
> i work with Google App Engine, I used Gobo-tools to backup and
> restores data, i has an erorr:
>
> Problem accessing /gobo/dump/start.gobo. Reason:
>
>     java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to complete the HTTP request
>
> Caused by:
>
> java.lang.RuntimeException: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to
> complete the HTTP request
>         at gobo.GoboServlet.processReguest(GoboServlet.java:55)
>         at gobo.GoboServlet.doPost(GoboServlet.java:20)
>         at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:637)
>         at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:717)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHolder.handle(ServletHolder.java:
> 511)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler
> $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1166)
>         at
> com.google.appengine.api.blobstore.dev.ServeBlobFilter.doFilter(ServeBlobFi 
> lter.java:
> 51)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler
> $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
>         at
> com.google.apphosting.utils.servlet.TransactionCleanupFilter.doFilter(Trans 
> actionCleanupFilter.java:
> 43)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler
> $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
>         at
> com.google.appengine.tools.development.StaticFileFilter.doFilter(StaticFile 
> Filter.java:
> 122)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler
> $CachedChain.doFilter(ServletHandler.java:1157)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.ServletHandler.handle(ServletHandler.java:
> 388)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.security.SecurityHandler.handle(SecurityHandler.java:
> 216)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.servlet.SessionHandler.handle(SessionHandler.java:
> 182)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.handler.ContextHandler.handle(ContextHandler.java:
> 765)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.webapp.WebAppContext.handle(WebAppContext.java:
> 418)
>         at
> com.google.apphosting.utils.jetty.DevAppEngineWebAppContext.handle(DevAppEn 
> gineWebAppContext.java:
> 70)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:
> 152)
>         at com.google.appengine.tools.development.JettyContainerService
> $ApiProxyHandler.handle(JettyContainerService.java:351)
>         at
> org.mortbay.jetty.handler.HandlerWrapper.handle(HandlerWrapper.java:
> 152)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.Server.handle(Server.java:326)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handleRequest(HttpConnection.java:
> 542)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection
> $RequestHandler.content(HttpConnection.java:938)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseNext(HttpParser.java:755)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpParser.parseAvailable(HttpParser.java:218)
>         at org.mortbay.jetty.HttpConnection.handle(HttpConnection.java:404)
>         at
> org.mortbay.io.nio.SelectChannelEndPoint.run(SelectChannelEndPoint.java:
> 409)
>         at org.mortbay.thread.QueuedThreadPool
> $PoolThread.run(QueuedThreadPool.java:582)
> Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to complete the HTTP
> request
>         at
> com.google.apphosting.utils.security.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceStreamHandler
> $Connection.getHeaderFields(URLFetchServiceStreamHandler.java:218)
>         at
> com.google.apphosting.utils.security.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceStreamHandler
> $Connection.getHeaderFields(URLFetchServiceStreamHandler.java:74)
>         at
> com.google.gdata.client.http.HttpGDataRequest.isOAuthProxyErrorResponse(Htt 
> pGDataRequest.java:
> 558)
>         at
> com.google.gdata.client.http.HttpGDataRequest.checkResponse(HttpGDataReques 
> t.java:
> 549)
>         at
> com.google.gdata.client.http.HttpGDataRequest.execute(HttpGDataRequest.java :
> 530)
>         at
> com.google.gdata.client.http.GoogleGDataRequest.execute(GoogleGDataRequest. 
> java:
> 535)
>         at com.google.gdata.client.Service.insert(Service.java:1409)
>         at com.google.gdata.client.GoogleService.insert(GoogleService.java:
> 599)
>         at
> com.google.gdata.client.media.MediaService.insert(MediaService.java:
> 381)
>         at
> gobo.service.GbSpreadsheetService.createSpreadsheet(GbSpreadsheetService.ja 
> va:
> 200)
>         at gobo.controller.dump.StartController.runAuth(StartController.java:
> 45)
>         at gobo.AuthSubBase.run(AuthSubBase.java:70)
>         at gobo.GoboServlet.processReguest(GoboServlet.java:43)
>         ... 28 more
> Caused by: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: Could not verify SSL
> certificate for:https://docs.google.com/feeds/default/private/full/
>         at
> com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.convertApplicationExc 
> eption(URLFetchServiceImpl.java:
> 114)
>         at
> com.google.appengine.api.urlfetch.URLFetchServiceImpl.fetch(URLFetchService 
> Im

[google-appengine] Re: It's so sad.

[李晓东]

Thanks all your guys!

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Brandon Donnelson
wrote:

> Sad. Wish it worked for you better.
>
> Brandon
>

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[google-appengine] Re: channel.js not returning the correct mime type

[Moishe]

There's a fix for this rolling out soon (should be within a week).

In the meantime, you can copy the file locally and serve it statically
from your app (with the correct mime type). I realize that's not an
ideal solution, but it should work.

On Mar 21, 8:34 pm, "Navraj S. Chohan"  wrote:
> Is there a fix to this or some work around? Any app with the channel API
> does not work in IE9 because of this issue.
> -Raj
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Philip  wrote:
> > Google, please comment on this issue. It appears that the mime type
> > being returned forhttp://talkgadget.google.com/talkgadget/channel.js
> > is incorrect. If so, this needs to be fixed on your servers.
>
> > On Jan 29, 6:19 pm, Philip  wrote:
> > > Some browsers (including IE 9) are experiencing issues withhttp://
> > talkgadget.google.com/talkgadget/channel.js.
>
> > > Specifically, here is an error from IE 9 (beta):
>
> > >     SEC7112: Script fromhttp://
> > talkgadget.google.com/talkgadget/channel.js
> > > was blocked due to mime type mismatch
>
> > > Google, if you agree that this is an error on your server
> > > configuration for this javascript file, please make the necessary fix
> > > to the mime type being returned for this (and other) javascript
> > > file(s).
>
> > > Here are the headers currently being returned for channel.js:
>
> > > Cache-Control:private, max-age=0
> > > Content-Encoding:gzip
> > > Content-Type:text/html; charset=UTF-8  <== error in Content-
> > > Type? ==
> > > Date:Sun, 30 Jan 2011 02:09:09 GMT
> > > Expires:Sun, 30 Jan 2011 02:09:09 GMT
> > > Server:GSE
> > > Transfer-Encoding:Identity
> > > X-Content-Type-Options:nosniff
> > > X-Xss-Protection:1; mode=block
>
> > > Please notice the content-type is currently "text/html" when it should
> > > probably be something like "application/javascript".
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Prerelease SDK 1.4.3 now available for download

[Ross M Karchner]

Is there some sample code for the matcher API, out in the wild?

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Adam  wrote:
> Thanks for the fantastic news Ikai. Can't wait to play with the pre-
> release when I finish work today :)
>
> Keep up the great work!
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Re: [google-appengine] Can't create a new app using the Google App Engine...

[Barry Hunter]

A common cause of this, when using a Google Apps domain, you should access
it the admin at

http://appengine.google.com/a/yourdomainhere.com/

Otherwise you will run into issues.

... if you not using Google Apps, then I dont have any suggestions :(


On 22 March 2011 15:08, Tony O Dowd  wrote:

> I've created my first App on the Google App Engine and everything went
> well, however, now when I try to create a new application it asks me
> to Verify my Account using SMS. As I've already done this previously,
> it will not allow me to specify my phone number again. I've tried
> using other phone numbers but it just won't let me past this
> verification screen
>
> Anybody experience a similar problem and have a solution?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
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[google-appengine] UnicodeDecodeError in Appengine deployed version, but not in Devserver

[Kwame]

'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x8a in position 2: ordinal not in
range(128)

I've read so many solutions about this problem, even Nick's Blog:
http://blog.notdot.net/2010/07/Getting-unicode-right-in-Python

...which addresses the problem very well. So I've been able to resolve
this unicode issue on GAE devserver, however I continue to experience
it on my live deployed version. This makes no sense to me. Can anyone
help??

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Re: [google-appengine] HR Issues (But Up time is great)

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

Good to hear it's working. If I hear anything about what changed, I'll let
you guys know.

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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Brandon Wirtz  wrote:

> I swear someone cheated... Or ran over and flipped a switch when I asked...
> Cause out of the same tool, now I get
>
> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> Via: HTTP/1.1 GWA (remote cache hit)
> Accept-Ranges: bytes
> Last-Modified: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 01:25:48 GMT
> Etag: "159827d-169b0-49d75caeb5f00"
> Content-Type: image/png
> Age: 6985
> Cache-Control: public; max-age=300
> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:29:27 GMT
> Server: Google Frontend
> Content-Length: 92592
>
>
> Which even says that Google gave me a cache hit.  Which is interesting
> cause
> the Dashboard on the app doesn't claim it has any of those. (even though My
> MS version of the app does)
>
> So just ignore me, it seems to work well enough,  I'm just partially
> insane.
> :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 3:54 PM
> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] HR Issues (But Up time is great)
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Brandon Wirtz 
> wrote:
> >
> > 1. Caching doesn’t work, and because of the way headers are
> >forced to be set all requests expire immediately so the user won’t
> cache either.
> >
> > (Headers from a request)
> >
> > HTTP/1.1 405 Method Not Allowed
> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
> > Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate
> > Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1990 00:00:00 GMT
> > Set-Cookie: S=apphosting=5hoCHm4x9c3ZrrxQEN5Q4A; path=/
> > Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:37:21 GMT
> > Pragma: no-cache
> > Server: Google Frontend
> > Content-Length: 0
>
>
> These look like headers from a response, not a request, and the response
> code is 405: Method Not Allowed. ie. the request was something other than a
> GET, POST, PUT or DELETE, in which case you might expect the error response
> to force a no-cache header.
>
> Are you sure your test is accurate?
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[google-appengine] Re: UnicodeDecodeError in Appengine deployed version, but not in Devserver

[Geoffrey Spear]

On Mar 22, 12:45 pm, Kwame  wrote:
> 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x8a in position 2: ordinal not in
> range(128)
>
> I've read so many solutions about this problem, even Nick's 
> Blog:http://blog.notdot.net/2010/07/Getting-unicode-right-in-Python
>
> ...which addresses the problem very well. So I've been able to resolve
> this unicode issue on GAE devserver, however I continue to experience
> it on my live deployed version. This makes no sense to me. Can anyone
> help??

Without seeing your code, almost certainly not.

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[google-appengine] Serving talkgadet.google.com through your own app

[Westmark]

Hi!

I was just wondering how much of problem it would be to add the
possibility to serve the channel API through your own app instead of
via talkgadget.google.com. Kind of like how you serve the Remote API
by adding the handler to your app.yaml without actually writing any
code for it.

BR / Fredrik

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GQL performance slow

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

I think you should run AppStats and see what's going on. 2000 entities is
never going to be particularly fast, but 3 seconds might be a bit on the
high side. Run the tool to be sure.

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On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:25 AM, adhi  wrote:

> Hi Ikai, is there a measure to say the entities are large? is it about
> the number of
> columns or blob or text? if so in my entities I have string and number
> properties only.
>
> Yes. I need all the 2000 (some times bit more) entities at once for
> reporting.
> Currently I'm not seeing a way where I can split the keys and fetch.
>
>
> On Mar 21, 11:54 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)"  wrote:
> > If that's the performance, then I'm inclined to say the entities are
> large
> > and that's about the performance you can expect. One more thing to keep
> in
> > mind: the cost of deserializing each entity is non-trivial.
> >
> > Is there a reason you need all 2000 entities? Perhaps there is a
> different
> > way to accomplish what you want without querying a (relatively) large
> number
> > of entities at once.
> >
> > One other possible solution that will at least make your user facing code
> > run faster is to split the query up by key, perform multiple async
> queries
> > and join them at the end. It'll still consume the same (or more) CPU
> time,
> > but the user ms should be lower since you are doing things in parallel.
> The
> > tradeoff here, of course, is that you'd need to know how you can split up
> > the keyspace.
> >
> > Ikai Lan
> > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:17 AM, adhi  wrote:
> > > q = db.Query(PrimaryData)
> > > q.filter('SheetMetadataId', metadata.getSheetId())
> > > return q.fetch(2000)
> >
> > > Hi Ikai, even the above query takes 3.3 ~ 3.6 seconds. The number of
> > > entities returned by the query is 1261.
> > > I'm using Expando model, the total number columns for this particular
> > > set of entities are 25.
> > > Yes. I've created composite index. Here is the index definition.
> >
> > > - kind: PrimaryData
> > >  properties:
> > >  - name: SheetMetadataId
> > >  - name: InstanceAssignedTo
> >
> > > please let me know if you need more information.
> >
> > > On Mar 17, 11:50 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)"  wrote:
> > > > If you have a composite index, the performance of this query should
> be
> > > > mostly linear (find start location of index and just return min(2000,
> > > number
> > > > of entities that satisfy query from there on out) number of keys and
> > > items.
> > > > If you only have individual indexes for SheetMetadataId as well as
> > > > InstanceAssignedTo, this uses zigzag merge join, where performance
> can
> > > > greatly vary depending on the shape of the data.
> >
> > > > Just out of curiosity, what is the performance of this query?
> >
> > > > q = db.Query(PrimaryData)
> > > > q.filter('SheetMetadataId', metadata.getSheetId())
> > > > return q.fetch(2000)
> >
> > > > If it's in a similar ballpark, my other guess is that the query takes
> > > that
> > > > amount of time because the entities are large.
> >
> > > > You mentioned created a composite index. Can you post that?
> >
> > > > I'll talk to the datastore team to see what we can do to provide
> > > something
> > > > similar to EXPLAIN plans for queries.
> >
> > > > Ikai Lan
> > > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> > > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:07 AM, adhi 
> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Robert,
> > > > > I've not used reference properties. Its a simple query and it'll be
> > > > > like this.
> >
> > > > > q = db.Query(PrimaryData)
> > > > > q.filter('SheetMetadataId', metadata.getSheetId())
> > > > > q.filter('InstanceAssignedTo IN',
> > > > > [u'User_c42e8919_448e_11e0_b87b_f58d20c6e2c3',
> > > > > u'User_1fd87ac5_073d_11e0_8ba1_c122a5867c4a'])
> > > > > return q.fetch(2000)
> >
> > > > > and I replaced the IN filter to '=' with single value. Still its
> > > > > taking same time.
> >
> > > > > On Mar 17, 6:27 am, Robert Kluin  wrote:
> > > > > > Use Appstats. It may not be the query that is slow.  If you are
> using
> > > > > > reference properties, perhaps you are dereferencing them.  If you
> > > > > > should us the query and how you're using the results we might be
> abel
> > > > > > to give more suggestions.
> >
> > > > > >http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/appstats.html
> >
> > > > > > Robert
> >
> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:54, adhi 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi, I'm running a query in appengine which is returning just
> 1200
> > > 

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Python AppEngine down

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

A general tip: Deploy a NON default version to stage your application, then
run a quick visual verification. When you're happy with the release, switch
that new version over to become the new default.

Ikai Lan
Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Justin  wrote:

> Apologies, my error; left a trailing bracket in an import library :-(
>
> On Mar 22, 7:02 am, Justin  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My Python app has been unavailable since approx 06:52 UTC today; looks
> like
> > the app can't find the AppEngine runtime libraries; is this a general
> outage
> > ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Justin
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[google-appengine] how to make gae and gwt sdks work together?

[Ania]

Hi,
I am developing web application where I use gwt and gae sdks.In a client 
module I'm using Users api and when i try to compile the app i'm getting an 
error that all gae imports and classes cannot be resolved.I was wondering if 
there is any special way to make them work together?
Thank you for any help,
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[google-appengine] appcfg error: No address associated with hostname

[Ruggero Turra]

I got this error every time I use appcfg doing updating, dowloading, ... I 
found some other threads with this problem and the reason was related to the 
use of a proxy, but I'm not under a proxy.

~/google_appengine/appcfg.py --noisy --email=giurr...@gmail.com update 
myapplication

Application: myapplication; version: 1.
Host: appengine.google.com
2011-03-22 21:04:30,530 DEBUG appengine_rpc.py:443 Could not load 
authentication cookies; LoadError: '/home/ruggero/.appcfg_cookies' does not 
look like a Netscape format cookies file 
2011-03-22 21:04:30,530 INFO appengine_rpc.py:153 Server: 
appengine.google.com 
2011-03-22 21:04:30,532 INFO appcfg.py:413 Checking for updates to the SDK. 
2011-03-22 21:04:30,533 DEBUG appengine_rpc.py:345 Sending HTTPS request:
POST 
/api/updatecheck?release=1.4.2×tamp=1294960686&api_versions=%5B%271%27%5D 
HTTPS/1.1
Host: appengine.google.com
X-appcfg-api-version: 1
Content-type: application/octet-stream
User-agent: appcfg_py/1.4.2 Linux/2.6.35.11-83.fc14.x86_64 
Python/2.7.0.final.0

 
2011-03-22 21:04:30,534 DEBUG __init__.py:81 Creating preset proxy https 
conn: appengine.google.com 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,633 INFO appcfg.py:422 Update check failed:  
2011-03-22 21:04:35,634 INFO appcfg.py:1761 Reading app configuration. 

Beginning update of app: myapplication, version: 1
Scanning files on local disk.
2011-03-22 21:04:35,637 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'app.yaml' 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,638 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'index.html~': 
File matches ignore regex. 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,638 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'my_model.pyc': 
File matches ignore regex. 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,639 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'hello.py' 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,639 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'contacts.html~': 
File matches ignore regex. 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,640 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'index.html' 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,640 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'my_model.py~': 
File matches ignore regex. 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,640 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'hello.py~': File 
matches ignore regex. 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,641 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'app.yaml~': File 
matches ignore regex. 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,641 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'index.yaml' 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,642 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'contacts.html' 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,642 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'my_model.py' 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,643 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 
'stylesheets/main.css' 
Initiating update of app: myapplication, version: 1
2011-03-22 21:04:35,662 INFO appcfg.py:1502 Send: /api/appversion/create, 
params={'version': '1', 'app_id': 'myapplication'} 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,667 DEBUG appengine_rpc.py:345 Sending HTTPS request:
POST /api/appversion/create?version=1&app_id=myapplication HTTPS/1.1
Host: appengine.google.com
X-appcfg-api-version: 1
Content-type: application/octet-stream
User-agent: appcfg_py/1.4.2 Linux/2.6.35.11-83.fc14.x86_64 
Python/2.7.0.final.0

admin_console:
  pages:
  - name: Datastore Admin
url: /_ah/datastore_admin/
api_version: '1'
application: myapplication
builtins:
- datastore_admin: 'on'
- default: 'on'
derived_file_type:
- python_precompiled
handlers:
- login: admin
  script: $PYTHON_LIB/google/appengine/ext/datastore_admin/main.py
  secure: optional
  url: /_ah/datastore_admin.*
- login: admin
  script: $PYTHON_LIB/google/appengine/ext/mapreduce/main.py
  secure: optional
  url: /_ah/mapreduce.*
- secure: optional
  static_dir: stylesheets
  url: /stylesheets
- script: hello.py
  secure: optional
  url: /.*
runtime: python
version: '1'
 
2011-03-22 21:04:35,668 DEBUG __init__.py:81 Creating preset proxy https 
conn: appengine.google.com 
2011-03-22 21:04:40,780 ERROR appcfg.py:1840 An unexpected error occurred. 
Aborting. 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/ruggero/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/appcfg.py", 
line 1795, in DoUpload
missing_files = self.Begin()
  File "/home/ruggero/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/appcfg.py", 
line 1546, in Begin
self.Send('/api/appversion/create', payload=self.config.ToYAML())
  File "/home/ruggero/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/appcfg.py", 
line 1503, in Send
return self.rpcserver.Send(url, payload=payload, **self.params)
  File 
"/home/ruggero/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/appengine_rpc.py", 
line 346, in Send
f = self.opener.open(req)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 391, in open
response = self._open(req, data)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 409, in _open
'_open', req)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 369, in _call_chain
result = func(*args)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 1181, in https_open
return self.do_open(httplib.HTTPSConnection, req)
  File 
"/home/ruggero/google_appengine/lib/fancy_urllib/fancy_urllib/__init__.py", 
line 367, in do_open
raise url_error
URLError: 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/hom

Re: [google-appengine] blogging drop-in package

[vlad]

bloog seems to be abandoned. No updates since 2008 there

Will check out blogart

Thank everyone!

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[google-appengine] Is HTTPS blobstore Upload Realy Secure ?

[Mahron]

If you setup the upload example from the documentation and use it
using an https url the upload url returned from create_upload_url will
be https://*.appspot.com/_ah/upload/*.

The File is uploaded but the Secure Incoming Bandwidth in the Quota
Details of the admin remains at 0%.

So is the file realy uploaded securely ?

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Re: [google-appengine] Is HTTPS blobstore Upload Realy Secure ?

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

Yes, it is encrypted. If it's not showing up in bandwidth, that could be a
bug.

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On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Mahron  wrote:

>
> If you setup the upload example from the documentation and use it
> using an https url the upload url returned from create_upload_url will
> be https://*.appspot.com/_ah/upload/*.
>
> The File is uploaded but the Secure Incoming Bandwidth in the Quota
> Details of the admin remains at 0%.
>
> So is the file realy uploaded securely ?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Upcoming scheduled maintenance for April

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

HR applications will still have access to Memcache. I don't believe it will
be flushed.

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On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Raymond C.  wrote:

> How long will it last?
>
> By the way I am curious, is memcache still functions for HR during the
> maintenance on M/S?
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[google-appengine] Re: Is HTTPS blobstore Upload Realy Secure ?

[Mahron]

Ok, thanks.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: email sent by GAE would be regarded as spam for some email services

[Ikai Lan (Google)]

I actually think we are moving away from this direction. For customers
sending large volumes of email or who require delivery guarantees, we'll be
encouraging the use of services that are specifically designed for this
functionality.

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On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:

> me 2. Have integrated the SES service within our GAE apps.  work good and
> solved our problems
>
> sure it would be more nice if GAE can provide email service at the quality
> level similar to the Amazon SES one (at least would not be classified as
> SPAM), so we dont need to manage both . could we make this suggestion to GAE
> team?
>
> - eric
>
>
> On 22 March 2011 05:30, Jamie H  wrote:
>
>> Wow, great idea!  I have been having some delivery issues lately with
>> GAE and looking for an alternative.
>>
>> I just downloaded a pythong Amazon SES library, signed up for SES, and
>> put it all together and it works like a charm with GAE!
>>
>> On Mar 20, 10:31 pm, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
>> > Hi Eric,
>> >
>> > Have you looked at Amazon's Simple Email Service (SES)?
>> >
>> > http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
>> >
>> > Pretty much the same cost as sending email using GAE, except with SES
>> you
>> > only get 2,000 free emails if you're sending email from an EC2 instance.
>> >
>> > I haven't used it myself but apparently they scan outgoing mail to make
>> sure
>> > it meets "ISP standards". This leads me to believe emails sent via SES
>> would
>> > be less likely to be automatically marked as spam than on GAE, since
>> SES's
>> > spam-sending-reputation would be lower than GAE's, due to their
>> > pre-filtering and rate-limiting.
>> >
>> > Nick
>> >
>> > On 21 March 2011 13:51, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Ernesto,
>> >
>> > > thx for your suggestion! yes, i think it shall work.
>> >
>> > > but in general if we can't ask all our users to add our email to their
>> > > contact list (or they are not willing to do so), how can emails sent
>> by us
>> > > prevent to be regarded as spam? all our subject, body etc. are nothing
>> > > spam-liked, and seems it's the problem of the email server that
>> actually
>> > > sends the email. anyone share similar case, or has other solution?
>> >
>> > > regards,
>> > > eric
>> >
>> > > On 19 March 2011 00:12, Ernesto Karim Oltra > >wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Ask the user to add the e-mail from address of your e-mails to their
>> > >> contacts list, so your e-mails would never been sent to spam again
>> > >> (for that users, at least).
>> >
>> > >> It's a bit hacky, but can do a great work meanwhile you find another
>> > >> solution.
>> >
>> > >> On 18 mar, 07:52, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
>> > >> > we use mail.send_mail() to send some important messages to our
>> users
>> > >> through
>> > >> > an app hosted on GAE, in which the 'from' has been set to one of a
>> > >> > registered admin for the app.
>> >
>> > >> > it works quite well for most users, except for some email service
>> > >> provider
>> > >> > (e.g. '...@yahoo.com.hk'), they would always automatically treat
>> these
>> > >> emails
>> > >> > as spam and put them into spam box of the user's email account (if
>> the
>> > >> user
>> > >> > has enabled the spam filtering feature, which is by default "ON") .
>> in
>> > >> this
>> > >> > case, many of our users do not aware for these important messages
>> (they
>> > >> > would seldom look into mails in their spambox)
>> >
>> > >> > we have tried using different "from", "subject", "body" and the
>> results
>> > >> are
>> > >> > the same. we suspect that it is the email server does matter, and
>> maybe
>> > >> > before there were some other apps hosted on GAE sending spams to
>> like '@
>> > >> > yahoo.com.hk', so '...@yahoo.com.hk' would regard all emails sent
>> from
>> > >> this
>> > >> > email server in GAE as spam.
>> >
>> > >> > do anyone share similar experiences? or there should be other
>> causes?
>> > >> any
>> > >> > ideas we can solve this problem? (successfully deliver the email to
>> our
>> > >> > users using those email service without being regarded as spam) thx
>> in
>> > >> > advanced!
>> >
>> > >> > - eric
>> >
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[google-appengine] Task queue operation while datastore is in readonly mode.

[Alexander Maslov]

I'm really sorry, if this question has already been answered, but I haven't 
found any clear answer. Is task queue fully operational, while datastore is 
in readonly mode? Do we still able to add new tasks? In my case I have to 
add log entry in the datastore on each request. I don't mind if this log 
entry is persisted in datastore with some lag. So I was thinking over to add 
task queue task to store log entry at later time, if datastore is not 
available at the time of original request. Will it work? I do not want to 
use memcache, since it can be flushed.

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Re: [google-appengine] Prerelease SDK 1.4.3 now available for download

[Jeff Schnitzer]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Ikai Lan (Google)
 wrote:
> Java 1.4.3
> =
> - Deferred library support now available in Java.
>     http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=2381

This looks really great.  You guys did a good job with the API.

Jeff

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[google-appengine] Re: email sent by GAE would be regarded as spam for some email services

[Jamie H]

Ikai,

On that note, do you have any services besides SES that you
recommend?  SES works well with GAE however you must slowly up your
quotas, forcing you to send some mail via SES and some through GAE
until your quotas are adjusted high enough...

On Mar 22, 4:29 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)"  wrote:
> I actually think we are moving away from this direction. For customers
> sending large volumes of email or who require delivery guarantees, we'll be
> encouraging the use of services that are specifically designed for this
> functionality.
>
> Ikai Lan
> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
>
> > me 2. Have integrated the SES service within our GAE apps.  work good and
> > solved our problems
>
> > sure it would be more nice if GAE can provide email service at the quality
> > level similar to the Amazon SES one (at least would not be classified as
> > SPAM), so we dont need to manage both . could we make this suggestion to GAE
> > team?
>
> > - eric
>
> > On 22 March 2011 05:30, Jamie H  wrote:
>
> >> Wow, great idea!  I have been having some delivery issues lately with
> >> GAE and looking for an alternative.
>
> >> I just downloaded a pythong Amazon SES library, signed up for SES, and
> >> put it all together and it works like a charm with GAE!
>
> >> On Mar 20, 10:31 pm, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
> >> > Hi Eric,
>
> >> > Have you looked at Amazon's Simple Email Service (SES)?
>
> >> >http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
>
> >> > Pretty much the same cost as sending email using GAE, except with SES
> >> you
> >> > only get 2,000 free emails if you're sending email from an EC2 instance.
>
> >> > I haven't used it myself but apparently they scan outgoing mail to make
> >> sure
> >> > it meets "ISP standards". This leads me to believe emails sent via SES
> >> would
> >> > be less likely to be automatically marked as spam than on GAE, since
> >> SES's
> >> > spam-sending-reputation would be lower than GAE's, due to their
> >> > pre-filtering and rate-limiting.
>
> >> > Nick
>
> >> > On 21 March 2011 13:51, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
>
> >> > > Hi Ernesto,
>
> >> > > thx for your suggestion! yes, i think it shall work.
>
> >> > > but in general if we can't ask all our users to add our email to their
> >> > > contact list (or they are not willing to do so), how can emails sent
> >> by us
> >> > > prevent to be regarded as spam? all our subject, body etc. are nothing
> >> > > spam-liked, and seems it's the problem of the email server that
> >> actually
> >> > > sends the email. anyone share similar case, or has other solution?
>
> >> > > regards,
> >> > > eric
>
> >> > > On 19 March 2011 00:12, Ernesto Karim Oltra  >> >wrote:
>
> >> > >> Ask the user to add the e-mail from address of your e-mails to their
> >> > >> contacts list, so your e-mails would never been sent to spam again
> >> > >> (for that users, at least).
>
> >> > >> It's a bit hacky, but can do a great work meanwhile you find another
> >> > >> solution.
>
> >> > >> On 18 mar, 07:52, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
> >> > >> > we use mail.send_mail() to send some important messages to our
> >> users
> >> > >> through
> >> > >> > an app hosted on GAE, in which the 'from' has been set to one of a
> >> > >> > registered admin for the app.
>
> >> > >> > it works quite well for most users, except for some email service
> >> > >> provider
> >> > >> > (e.g. '...@yahoo.com.hk'), they would always automatically treat
> >> these
> >> > >> emails
> >> > >> > as spam and put them into spam box of the user's email account (if
> >> the
> >> > >> user
> >> > >> > has enabled the spam filtering feature, which is by default "ON") .
> >> in
> >> > >> this
> >> > >> > case, many of our users do not aware for these important messages
> >> (they
> >> > >> > would seldom look into mails in their spambox)
>
> >> > >> > we have tried using different "from", "subject", "body" and the
> >> results
> >> > >> are
> >> > >> > the same. we suspect that it is the email server does matter, and
> >> maybe
> >> > >> > before there were some other apps hosted on GAE sending spams to
> >> like '@
> >> > >> > yahoo.com.hk', so '...@yahoo.com.hk' would regard all emails sent
> >> from
> >> > >> this
> >> > >> > email server in GAE as spam.
>
> >> > >> > do anyone share similar experiences? or there should be other
> >> causes?
> >> > >> any
> >> > >> > ideas we can solve this problem? (successfully deliver the email to
> >> our
> >> > >> > users using those email service without being regarded as spam) thx
> >> in
> >> > >> > advanced!
>
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[google-appengine] Re: UnicodeDecodeError in Appengine deployed version, but not in Devserver

[Kwame]

Sure Geoffrey. Sorry about that.

class Person(db.model):
  name = db.StringProperty()
  description = db.TextProperty()


class PersonHandler(webapp.RequestHandler):
  def get(self):
pers = Person()
pers.name = unicode(encrypt_data(self.request.get('name')))
pers.description =
unicode(encrypt_data(self.request.get('description')))
pers.put()


def encrypt_data(plaintext):
obj=ARC4.new(RSAPrivateKey())
return obj.encrypt(plaintext)


def decrypt_data(ciphertext):
obj=ARC4.new(RSAPrivateKey())
return obj.decrypt(ciphertext)

#

This code properly encrypts/decrypts the webapp request variables and
stores into the Person Object while running on the localhost Dev
server, but on the Deployed app, it throws a UnicodeDecodeError. I've
also tried:

unicode(encrypt_data(self.request.get('description'))).encode('utf-8')
but that fails on both servers



On Mar 22, 1:25 pm, Geoffrey Spear  wrote:
> On Mar 22, 12:45 pm, Kwame  wrote:
>
> > 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0x8a in position 2: ordinal not in
> > range(128)
>
> > I've read so many solutions about this problem, even Nick's 
> > Blog:http://blog.notdot.net/2010/07/Getting-unicode-right-in-Python
>
> > ...which addresses the problem very well. So I've been able to resolve
> > this unicode issue on GAE devserver, however I continue to experience
> > it on my live deployed version. This makes no sense to me. Can anyone
> > help??
>
> Without seeing your code, almost certainly not.

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Re: [google-appengine] appcfg error: No address associated with hostname

[Robert Kluin]

Have you tried it with Python 2.5?




Robert






On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 16:09, Ruggero Turra  wrote:
> I got this error every time I use appcfg doing updating, dowloading, ... I
> found some other threads with this problem and the reason was related to the
> use of a proxy, but I'm not under a proxy.
> ~/google_appengine/appcfg.py --noisy --email=giurr...@gmail.com update
> myapplication
>
> Application: myapplication; version: 1.
> Host: appengine.google.com
> 2011-03-22 21:04:30,530 DEBUG appengine_rpc.py:443 Could not load
> authentication cookies; LoadError: '/home/ruggero/.appcfg_cookies' does not
> look like a Netscape format cookies file
> 2011-03-22 21:04:30,530 INFO appengine_rpc.py:153 Server:
> appengine.google.com
> 2011-03-22 21:04:30,532 INFO appcfg.py:413 Checking for updates to the SDK.
> 2011-03-22 21:04:30,533 DEBUG appengine_rpc.py:345 Sending HTTPS request:
> POST
> /api/updatecheck?release=1.4.2×tamp=1294960686&api_versions=%5B%271%27%5D
> HTTPS/1.1
> Host: appengine.google.com
> X-appcfg-api-version: 1
> Content-type: application/octet-stream
> User-agent: appcfg_py/1.4.2 Linux/2.6.35.11-83.fc14.x86_64
> Python/2.7.0.final.0
>
> 2011-03-22 21:04:30,534 DEBUG __init__.py:81 Creating preset proxy https
> conn: appengine.google.com
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,633 INFO appcfg.py:422 Update check failed:  error [Errno -5] No address associated with hostname>
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,634 INFO appcfg.py:1761 Reading app configuration.
> Beginning update of app: myapplication, version: 1
> Scanning files on local disk.
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,637 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'app.yaml'
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,638 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'index.html~':
> File matches ignore regex.
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,638 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'my_model.pyc':
> File matches ignore regex.
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,639 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'hello.py'
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,639 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'contacts.html~':
> File matches ignore regex.
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,640 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'index.html'
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,640 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'my_model.py~':
> File matches ignore regex.
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,640 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'hello.py~': File
> matches ignore regex.
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,641 INFO appcfg.py:1868 Ignoring file 'app.yaml~': File
> matches ignore regex.
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,641 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'index.yaml'
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,642 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'contacts.html'
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,642 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file 'my_model.py'
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,643 INFO appcfg.py:1779 Processing file
> 'stylesheets/main.css'
> Initiating update of app: myapplication, version: 1
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,662 INFO appcfg.py:1502 Send: /api/appversion/create,
> params={'version': '1', 'app_id': 'myapplication'}
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,667 DEBUG appengine_rpc.py:345 Sending HTTPS request:
> POST /api/appversion/create?version=1&app_id=myapplication HTTPS/1.1
> Host: appengine.google.com
> X-appcfg-api-version: 1
> Content-type: application/octet-stream
> User-agent: appcfg_py/1.4.2 Linux/2.6.35.11-83.fc14.x86_64
> Python/2.7.0.final.0
> admin_console:
>   pages:
>   - name: Datastore Admin
>     url: /_ah/datastore_admin/
> api_version: '1'
> application: myapplication
> builtins:
> - datastore_admin: 'on'
> - default: 'on'
> derived_file_type:
> - python_precompiled
> handlers:
> - login: admin
>   script: $PYTHON_LIB/google/appengine/ext/datastore_admin/main.py
>   secure: optional
>   url: /_ah/datastore_admin.*
> - login: admin
>   script: $PYTHON_LIB/google/appengine/ext/mapreduce/main.py
>   secure: optional
>   url: /_ah/mapreduce.*
> - secure: optional
>   static_dir: stylesheets
>   url: /stylesheets
> - script: hello.py
>   secure: optional
>   url: /.*
> runtime: python
> version: '1'
>
> 2011-03-22 21:04:35,668 DEBUG __init__.py:81 Creating preset proxy https
> conn: appengine.google.com
> 2011-03-22 21:04:40,780 ERROR appcfg.py:1840 An unexpected error occurred.
> Aborting.
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/home/ruggero/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/appcfg.py",
> line 1795, in DoUpload
>     missing_files = self.Begin()
>   File "/home/ruggero/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/appcfg.py",
> line 1546, in Begin
>     self.Send('/api/appversion/create', payload=self.config.ToYAML())
>   File "/home/ruggero/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/appcfg.py",
> line 1503, in Send
>     return self.rpcserver.Send(url, payload=payload, **self.params)
>   File
> "/home/ruggero/google_appengine/google/appengine/tools/appengine_rpc.py",
> line 346, in Send
>     f = self.opener.open(req)
>   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 391, in open
>     response = self._open(req, data)
>   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 409, in _open
>     '_open', req)
>   File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib2.py", line 369, in _call_chain
>   

[google-appengine] Re: how to make gae and gwt sdks work together?

[Brendan Doherty]

Are you trying to use the appengine sdk from client code that is compiled 
into javascript?  That won't work.  

You'll need to make requests from the client to the server, and have the 
code on the server call the appengine sdk.

Have a read of the following links:

   - http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/doc/latest/tutorial/RPC.html
   - http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/doc/latest/tutorial/clientserver.html
   
A best practice way of doing this is using the command 
pattern, 
you might want to check out a framework to help you with this.  
I currently contribute to gwt-platform, and have used gwt-dispatch in the 
past.

   - http://code.google.com/p/gwt-platform/wiki/GettingStartedDispatch
   - http://code.google.com/p/gwt-dispatch/wiki/GettingStarted
   

Cheers,
Brendan

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: email sent by GAE would be regarded as spam for some email services

[James Broberg]

SendLabs is another option:

http://dyn.com/enterprise-email/sendlabs-solutions

On 23 March 2011 09:57, Jamie H  wrote:
> Ikai,
>
> On that note, do you have any services besides SES that you
> recommend?  SES works well with GAE however you must slowly up your
> quotas, forcing you to send some mail via SES and some through GAE
> until your quotas are adjusted high enough...
>
> On Mar 22, 4:29 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)"  wrote:
>> I actually think we are moving away from this direction. For customers
>> sending large volumes of email or who require delivery guarantees, we'll be
>> encouraging the use of services that are specifically designed for this
>> functionality.
>>
>> Ikai Lan
>> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
>> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
>> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
>>
>> > me 2. Have integrated the SES service within our GAE apps.  work good and
>> > solved our problems
>>
>> > sure it would be more nice if GAE can provide email service at the quality
>> > level similar to the Amazon SES one (at least would not be classified as
>> > SPAM), so we dont need to manage both . could we make this suggestion to 
>> > GAE
>> > team?
>>
>> > - eric
>>
>> > On 22 March 2011 05:30, Jamie H  wrote:
>>
>> >> Wow, great idea!  I have been having some delivery issues lately with
>> >> GAE and looking for an alternative.
>>
>> >> I just downloaded a pythong Amazon SES library, signed up for SES, and
>> >> put it all together and it works like a charm with GAE!
>>
>> >> On Mar 20, 10:31 pm, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
>> >> > Hi Eric,
>>
>> >> > Have you looked at Amazon's Simple Email Service (SES)?
>>
>> >> >http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
>>
>> >> > Pretty much the same cost as sending email using GAE, except with SES
>> >> you
>> >> > only get 2,000 free emails if you're sending email from an EC2 instance.
>>
>> >> > I haven't used it myself but apparently they scan outgoing mail to make
>> >> sure
>> >> > it meets "ISP standards". This leads me to believe emails sent via SES
>> >> would
>> >> > be less likely to be automatically marked as spam than on GAE, since
>> >> SES's
>> >> > spam-sending-reputation would be lower than GAE's, due to their
>> >> > pre-filtering and rate-limiting.
>>
>> >> > Nick
>>
>> >> > On 21 March 2011 13:51, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
>>
>> >> > > Hi Ernesto,
>>
>> >> > > thx for your suggestion! yes, i think it shall work.
>>
>> >> > > but in general if we can't ask all our users to add our email to their
>> >> > > contact list (or they are not willing to do so), how can emails sent
>> >> by us
>> >> > > prevent to be regarded as spam? all our subject, body etc. are nothing
>> >> > > spam-liked, and seems it's the problem of the email server that
>> >> actually
>> >> > > sends the email. anyone share similar case, or has other solution?
>>
>> >> > > regards,
>> >> > > eric
>>
>> >> > > On 19 March 2011 00:12, Ernesto Karim Oltra > >> >wrote:
>>
>> >> > >> Ask the user to add the e-mail from address of your e-mails to their
>> >> > >> contacts list, so your e-mails would never been sent to spam again
>> >> > >> (for that users, at least).
>>
>> >> > >> It's a bit hacky, but can do a great work meanwhile you find another
>> >> > >> solution.
>>
>> >> > >> On 18 mar, 07:52, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
>> >> > >> > we use mail.send_mail() to send some important messages to our
>> >> users
>> >> > >> through
>> >> > >> > an app hosted on GAE, in which the 'from' has been set to one of a
>> >> > >> > registered admin for the app.
>>
>> >> > >> > it works quite well for most users, except for some email service
>> >> > >> provider
>> >> > >> > (e.g. '...@yahoo.com.hk'), they would always automatically treat
>> >> these
>> >> > >> emails
>> >> > >> > as spam and put them into spam box of the user's email account (if
>> >> the
>> >> > >> user
>> >> > >> > has enabled the spam filtering feature, which is by default "ON") .
>> >> in
>> >> > >> this
>> >> > >> > case, many of our users do not aware for these important messages
>> >> (they
>> >> > >> > would seldom look into mails in their spambox)
>>
>> >> > >> > we have tried using different "from", "subject", "body" and the
>> >> results
>> >> > >> are
>> >> > >> > the same. we suspect that it is the email server does matter, and
>> >> maybe
>> >> > >> > before there were some other apps hosted on GAE sending spams to
>> >> like '@
>> >> > >> > yahoo.com.hk', so '...@yahoo.com.hk' would regard all emails sent
>> >> from
>> >> > >> this
>> >> > >> > email server in GAE as spam.
>>
>> >> > >> > do anyone share similar experiences? or there should be other
>> >> causes?
>> >> > >> any
>> >> > >> > ideas we can solve this problem? (successfully deliver the email to
>> >> our
>> >> > >> > users using those email service without being regarded as spam) thx
>> >> in
>> >> > >> > advanced!
>>
>> >> > >> > - eric
>>
>> >> 

Re: [google-appengine] Re: email sent by GAE would be regarded as spam for some email services

[Eric Ka Ka Ng]

Hi Ikai,

thx for your note. with this, we could better decide on which cases we would
like to send emails through GAE and which we would like to use other
external services.

and would it be more formally stated in any documents, or any guideline for
these considerations be documented? if i'm a new GAE user, i would just use
the email service straight forwardly without these considerations and
background information.

- eric



On 23 March 2011 05:29, Ikai Lan (Google)  wrote:

> I actually think we are moving away from this direction. For customers
> sending large volumes of email or who require delivery guarantees, we'll be
> encouraging the use of services that are specifically designed for this
> functionality.
>
> Ikai Lan
> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> Blog: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine
> Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
>
>> me 2. Have integrated the SES service within our GAE apps.  work good and
>> solved our problems
>>
>> sure it would be more nice if GAE can provide email service at the quality
>> level similar to the Amazon SES one (at least would not be classified as
>> SPAM), so we dont need to manage both . could we make this suggestion to GAE
>> team?
>>
>> - eric
>>
>>
>> On 22 March 2011 05:30, Jamie H  wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, great idea!  I have been having some delivery issues lately with
>>> GAE and looking for an alternative.
>>>
>>> I just downloaded a pythong Amazon SES library, signed up for SES, and
>>> put it all together and it works like a charm with GAE!
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 10:31 pm, Nickolas Daskalou  wrote:
>>> > Hi Eric,
>>> >
>>> > Have you looked at Amazon's Simple Email Service (SES)?
>>> >
>>> > http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
>>> >
>>> > Pretty much the same cost as sending email using GAE, except with SES
>>> you
>>> > only get 2,000 free emails if you're sending email from an EC2
>>> instance.
>>> >
>>> > I haven't used it myself but apparently they scan outgoing mail to make
>>> sure
>>> > it meets "ISP standards". This leads me to believe emails sent via SES
>>> would
>>> > be less likely to be automatically marked as spam than on GAE, since
>>> SES's
>>> > spam-sending-reputation would be lower than GAE's, due to their
>>> > pre-filtering and rate-limiting.
>>> >
>>> > Nick
>>> >
>>> > On 21 March 2011 13:51, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi Ernesto,
>>> >
>>> > > thx for your suggestion! yes, i think it shall work.
>>> >
>>> > > but in general if we can't ask all our users to add our email to
>>> their
>>> > > contact list (or they are not willing to do so), how can emails sent
>>> by us
>>> > > prevent to be regarded as spam? all our subject, body etc. are
>>> nothing
>>> > > spam-liked, and seems it's the problem of the email server that
>>> actually
>>> > > sends the email. anyone share similar case, or has other solution?
>>> >
>>> > > regards,
>>> > > eric
>>> >
>>> > > On 19 March 2011 00:12, Ernesto Karim Oltra >> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >> Ask the user to add the e-mail from address of your e-mails to their
>>> > >> contacts list, so your e-mails would never been sent to spam again
>>> > >> (for that users, at least).
>>> >
>>> > >> It's a bit hacky, but can do a great work meanwhile you find another
>>> > >> solution.
>>> >
>>> > >> On 18 mar, 07:52, Eric Ka Ka Ng  wrote:
>>> > >> > we use mail.send_mail() to send some important messages to our
>>> users
>>> > >> through
>>> > >> > an app hosted on GAE, in which the 'from' has been set to one of a
>>> > >> > registered admin for the app.
>>> >
>>> > >> > it works quite well for most users, except for some email service
>>> > >> provider
>>> > >> > (e.g. '...@yahoo.com.hk'), they would always automatically treat
>>> these
>>> > >> emails
>>> > >> > as spam and put them into spam box of the user's email account (if
>>> the
>>> > >> user
>>> > >> > has enabled the spam filtering feature, which is by default "ON")
>>> . in
>>> > >> this
>>> > >> > case, many of our users do not aware for these important messages
>>> (they
>>> > >> > would seldom look into mails in their spambox)
>>> >
>>> > >> > we have tried using different "from", "subject", "body" and the
>>> results
>>> > >> are
>>> > >> > the same. we suspect that it is the email server does matter, and
>>> maybe
>>> > >> > before there were some other apps hosted on GAE sending spams to
>>> like '@
>>> > >> > yahoo.com.hk', so '...@yahoo.com.hk' would regard all emails sent
>>> from
>>> > >> this
>>> > >> > email server in GAE as spam.
>>> >
>>> > >> > do anyone share similar experiences? or there should be other
>>> causes?
>>> > >> any
>>> > >> > ideas we can solve this problem? (successfully deliver the email
>>> to our
>>> > >> > users using those email service without being regarded as spam)
>>> thx in
>>> > >> > advanced!
>>> >
>>> > >> > - eric
>>> >
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Re: [google-appengine] Serving talkgadet.google.com through your own app

[Nick Johnson (Google)]

Hi Fredrik,

This isn't possible - the Channel API provides a service that isn't
available otherwise through App Engine - if you could serve it yourself,
there'd be no need for the Channel API.

What are you trying to accomplish?

-Nick Johnson

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Westmark wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I was just wondering how much of problem it would be to add the
> possibility to serve the channel API through your own app instead of
> via talkgadget.google.com. Kind of like how you serve the Remote API
> by adding the handler to your app.yaml without actually writing any
> code for it.
>
> BR / Fredrik
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[google-appengine] upload fail

[dhaval]

i have not being able to upload to app engine for quite sometime now. I have 
tried command line as well as app launcher.

I only get this 

500 Server Error


Error: Server Error
The server encountered an error and could not complete your 
request.If the problem persists, please http://code.google.com/appengine/community.html";>report your 
problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it.


--- end server output ---
2011-03-23 11:36:45 (Process exited with code 1)

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[google-appengine] my app was disabled

[@@]

I have a blog app running on appengine, and i didn't update the app or
content for a long time.
Today i just find that this app was disabled, how can i find out why
my app was disabled and how to enable it?

Thanks.

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[google-appengine] Re: upload fail

[Jay Herrick]

I'm seeing the same thing...  I also can't log into the dashboard.  Is there 
currently an outage.  I've been seeing this for the last 30 minutes or so.

-Jay

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[google-appengine] Error: Server Error

[Jay Herrick]

I'm getting this when I log into appengine.google.com or if I try to use the 
appcfg.sh tool:

Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not complete 
your request.

If the problem persists, please 
reportyour problem and mention 
this error message and the query that caused it.

My app is still running, I just can't administer it.

-Jay



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[google-appengine] Re: Error: Server Error

[Jay Herrick]

A few minutes later it all came back.

-Jay

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Re: [google-appengine] Serving talkgadet.google.com through your own app

[Fredrik Westmark]

Ok, I see. My devious plan is to circumvent all the webfilters out there
which are already blocking talkgadget.google.com due to Google Talk. I have
several friends stuck behind such filters and they want to be able to use
all the features on my site. So I was hoping that my domain could act as a
proxy in front of talkgadget.google.com so the filter does not block it.

BR // Fredrik


On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Nick Johnson (Google) <
nick.john...@google.com> wrote:

> Hi Fredrik,
>
> This isn't possible - the Channel API provides a service that isn't
> available otherwise through App Engine - if you could serve it yourself,
> there'd be no need for the Channel API.
>
> What are you trying to accomplish?
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Westmark wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I was just wondering how much of problem it would be to add the
>> possibility to serve the channel API through your own app instead of
>> via talkgadget.google.com. Kind of like how you serve the Remote API
>> by adding the handler to your app.yaml without actually writing any
>> code for it.
>>
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[google-appengine] Re: Error: Server Error

[Christopher Hilla]

I'm getting the same thing. Deploys were giving me trouble and now the
app is up and down. Seems intermittent.

Keep an eye on http://code.google.com/status/appengine
--Chris

On Mar 23, 2:27 am, Jay Herrick  wrote:
> I'm getting this when I log into appengine.google.com or if I try to use the
> appcfg.sh tool:
>
> Error: Server ErrorThe server encountered an error and could not complete
> your request.
>
> If the problem persists, please 
> reportyour problem and 
> mention this error message and the query that caused it.
>
> My app is still running, I just can't administer it.
>
> -Jay

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