Re: [Hornlist] MB6, MB7 and MB8

2008-06-06 Thread Greg Campbell

joey horn guy wrote:

Does anyone know the differences between the MB6, MB7 and MB8?


MB-6:  22 x 14 x 9 in.
MB-7:  22 x 14 x 8.5 in.
MB-7C: 20 x 14 x 8 in.
MB-8:  24 x 14 x 6.5 in.

All these cases will hold 1 straight mute and 1 stop mute and have 
modest room for music on the case itself.

The 6  7 models will hold a stand in the case.
Model 8 has some kind of zipper attachment system to attach a 
music/stand bag or suit bag (haven't seen one in the wild though).


Greg

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Re: [Hornlist] Pichl Fuchs

2008-06-06 Thread pmjilka

 David-

The quartet by Pichl sounds like its from the series of music publications 
called Musica Antiqua Bohemica.?? It would be hard to find new, but its 
probably sitting in a college library somewhere.

Pete
Kansas City


 


 

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Two questions:?
?

1)?

Anyone here know of sheet music for a quartet by Vaclav (Wenzel, 
Wenceslas) Pichl, for clarinet, oboe, horn, bassoon?  I have it on a 
Czech recording: Quartets for various instruments, by the Kocian 
Quartet, on a CD that contains other quartets by G.F. Fuchs, J. Vent, 
and J Fiala.  Can't find the music anywhere in cyberspace, including the 
free sources, such as the Royal Danish  library.?
?

2)?

Georg Friederich Fuchs (1752-1821), known on this list as the composer 
of a set of clever duets for horn and clarinet that have been passed 
around digitally, is also the composer of a set of quartets for 2 horns 
and 2 clarinets.  It is listed in the Biblioteque Nationale de France 
online catalog:  http://www.bnf.fr/  and it looks like it ought to be 
digitized and available for downloading, but perhaps not - I can't see 
how to do it.  Help??
?

David Goldberg?
?

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Re: [Hornlist] Pichl Fuchs

2008-06-06 Thread David Goldberg
I resolved part of the mystery of Vaclav Wenzel Wenceslas Pichl 
yesterday after a long search in cyberspace.  I'll detail my journey, as 
there may be useful information here.


The liner notes in my Kocian Quartet CD say that the name on the Pichl 
quartet manuscript is not written clearly; that it could be the work of 
a German-born composer named Lickl, of which there were several.


Then I surfed the internet for both, and I eventually stumbled on 
http://www.worldcat.org/ , which allows anyone to simultaneously search 
many libraries around the world - amazing.  While there, I found a wind 
quartet by Johann Georg Lickl, named Cassazione.  That is the name of 
the 1st movement on my Kocian CD.  To make sure that this is the Pichl 
quartet, I visited Amazon.com, searched for Lickl and came up with a CD 
that contains what looked like the same thing.  Amazon allows you to 
listen to sound samples - that confirmed it.


Short story, the Wenzel Pichl wind quartet was composed by Johann Georg 
Lickl.  Back to worldcat.org - this site will list all of the libraries 
that have the piece in their catalog.  In this case, there are many.


But a possible complicating factor is that there might be further 
confusion - between the Lickl-Pichl Cassazione, and one by Mozart for 
the same 4 winds.  Mozart's name appears through the worldcat.org 
library hits, and in one case at least, appears the word forgery.  So 
it ain't over yet.  I don't remember the Mozart Cassazione.  Amazon 
seems to be down just now(!) so I can't get a sound sample of the Mozart 
to compare with Lickl-Pichl.


On a side note, I stumbled on another interesting website with lots of 
links: http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/csms/ , the Czech and Slovak 
Music Society.


David Goldberg


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Re: [Hornlist] Pichl Fuchs

2008-06-06 Thread marcer97
David,



The Mozart/Lickl/Pichl Cassazione are all the same work.  Some modern 
publishers list the work as being attributed to Mozart in the hopes of 
increasing sales.



-Marc Cerri

www.mjcerri.com


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Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 2:13 pm
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I resolved part of the mystery of Vaclav Wenzel Wenceslas Pichl 
yesterday after a long search in cyberspace.  I'll detail my journey, as 
there may be useful information here. 
 

The liner notes in my Kocian Quartet CD say that the name on the Pichl 
quartet manuscript is not written clearly; that it could be the work of 
a German-born composer named Lickl, of which there were several. 
 

Then I surfed the internet for both, and I eventually stumbled on 
http://www.worldcat.org/ , which allows anyone to simultaneously search 
many libraries around the world - amazing.  While there, I found a wind 
quartet by Johann Georg Lickl, named Cassazione.  That is the name of 
the 1st movement on my Kocian CD.  To make sure that this is the Pichl 
quartet, I visited Amazon.com, searched for Lickl and came up with a CD 
that contains what looked like the same thing.  Amazon allows you to 
listen to sound samples - that confirmed it. 
 

Short story, the Wenzel Pichl wind quartet was composed by Johann Georg 
Lickl.  Back to worldcat.org - this site will list all of the libraries 
that have the piece in their catalog.  In this case, there are many. 
 

But a possible complicating factor is that there might be further 
confusion - between the Lickl-Pichl Cassazione, and one by Mozart for 
the same 4 winds.  Mozart's name appears through the worldcat.org 
library hits, and in one case at least, appears the word forgery.  So 
it ain't over yet.  I don't remember the Mozart Cassazione.  Amazon 
seems to be down just now(!) so I can't get a sound sample of the Mozart 
to compare with Lickl-Pichl. 
 

On a side note, I stumbled on another interesting website with lots of 
links: http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/csms/ , the Czech and Slovak 
Music Society. 
 

David Goldberg 
 


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Re: [Hornlist] Pichl Fuchs

2008-06-06 Thread Christian Wilhjelm
David,
This is beautiful!  Great work, thanks so much

and Marc thank you as well

Best
Chris 
 
 David Goldberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/06/08 2:13 PM  
I resolved part of the mystery of Vaclav Wenzel Wenceslas Pichl 
yesterday after a long search in cyberspace.  I'll detail my journey,
as 
there may be useful information here.

The liner notes in my Kocian Quartet CD say that the name on the Pichl

quartet manuscript is not written clearly; that it could be the work of

a German-born composer named Lickl, of which there were several.

Then I surfed the internet for both, and I eventually stumbled on 
http://www.worldcat.org/ , which allows anyone to simultaneously search

many libraries around the world - amazing.  While there, I found a wind

quartet by Johann Georg Lickl, named Cassazione.  That is the name of

the 1st movement on my Kocian CD.  To make sure that this is the Pichl

quartet, I visited Amazon.com, searched for Lickl and came up with a CD

that contains what looked like the same thing.  Amazon allows you to 
listen to sound samples - that confirmed it.

Short story, the Wenzel Pichl wind quartet was composed by Johann Georg

Lickl.  Back to worldcat.org - this site will list all of the libraries

that have the piece in their catalog.  In this case, there are many.

But a possible complicating factor is that there might be further 
confusion - between the Lickl-Pichl Cassazione, and one by Mozart for 
the same 4 winds.  Mozart's name appears through the worldcat.org 
library hits, and in one case at least, appears the word forgery.  So

it ain't over yet.  I don't remember the Mozart Cassazione.  Amazon 
seems to be down just now(!) so I can't get a sound sample of the
Mozart 
to compare with Lickl-Pichl.

On a side note, I stumbled on another interesting website with lots of

links: http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/csms/ , the Czech and Slovak

Music Society.

David Goldberg


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[Hornlist] Pichl

2008-06-06 Thread Christopher Gongos

Hi All

The music of Pichl is very nice.  I've recorded some of his  
symphonies on Naxos with The Toronto Chamber Orchestra conducted by  
Kevin Mallon.


Some nice horn parts.  I will have to look up the chamber music, as I  
was pleasantly surprised by the orchestral stuff.


Take care.

Chris Gongos


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RE: [Hornlist] Pichl Fuchs

2008-06-06 Thread hans
Interesting, there is also another Lickl, Franz Lickl, who
arranged Mozarts K407 Quintet for 2 clar, 2 hrs, 2 bns,
where the original solo horn parts is split into two horns
while the clarinets  bassoons take over the string parts.
This arrangement is available in new Finale setting.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Goldberg
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:14 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Pichl  Fuchs

I resolved part of the mystery of Vaclav Wenzel Wenceslas
Pichl yesterday after a long search in cyberspace.  I'll
detail my journey, as there may be useful information here.

The liner notes in my Kocian Quartet CD say that the name on
the Pichl quartet manuscript is not written clearly; that it
could be the work of a German-born composer named Lickl, of
which there were several.

Then I surfed the internet for both, and I eventually
stumbled on http://www.worldcat.org/ , which allows anyone
to simultaneously search many libraries around the world -
amazing.  While there, I found a wind quartet by Johann
Georg Lickl, named Cassazione.  That is the name of the
1st movement on my Kocian CD.  To make sure that this is the
Pichl quartet, I visited Amazon.com, searched for Lickl and
came up with a CD that contains what looked like the same
thing.  Amazon allows you to listen to sound samples - that
confirmed it.

Short story, the Wenzel Pichl wind quartet was composed by
Johann Georg Lickl.  Back to worldcat.org - this site will
list all of the libraries that have the piece in their
catalog.  In this case, there are many.

But a possible complicating factor is that there might be
further confusion - between the Lickl-Pichl Cassazione, and
one by Mozart for the same 4 winds.  Mozart's name appears
through the worldcat.org library hits, and in one case at
least, appears the word forgery.  So it ain't over yet.  I
don't remember the Mozart Cassazione.  Amazon seems to be
down just now(!) so I can't get a sound sample of the Mozart
to compare with Lickl-Pichl.

On a side note, I stumbled on another interesting website
with lots of
links: http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/csms/ , the Czech
and Slovak Music Society.

David Goldberg


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RE: [Hornlist] Pichl Fuchs- answer 2

2008-06-06 Thread hans
 Wenzel - Wentzel - Waceslav - Waceslas - Vaclav  = all the
same name.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Goldberg
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 7:14 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Pichl  Fuchs

I resolved part of the mystery of Vaclav Wenzel Wenceslas
Pichl yesterday after a long search in cyberspace.  I'll
detail my journey, as there may be useful information here.

The liner notes in my Kocian Quartet CD say that the name on
the Pichl quartet manuscript is not written clearly; that it
could be the work of a German-born composer named Lickl, of
which there were several.

Then I surfed the internet for both, and I eventually
stumbled on http://www.worldcat.org/ , which allows anyone
to simultaneously search many libraries around the world -
amazing.  While there, I found a wind quartet by Johann
Georg Lickl, named Cassazione.  That is the name of the
1st movement on my Kocian CD.  To make sure that this is the
Pichl quartet, I visited Amazon.com, searched for Lickl and
came up with a CD that contains what looked like the same
thing.  Amazon allows you to listen to sound samples - that
confirmed it.

Short story, the Wenzel Pichl wind quartet was composed by
Johann Georg Lickl.  Back to worldcat.org - this site will
list all of the libraries that have the piece in their
catalog.  In this case, there are many.

But a possible complicating factor is that there might be
further confusion - between the Lickl-Pichl Cassazione, and
one by Mozart for the same 4 winds.  Mozart's name appears
through the worldcat.org library hits, and in one case at
least, appears the word forgery.  So it ain't over yet.  I
don't remember the Mozart Cassazione.  Amazon seems to be
down just now(!) so I can't get a sound sample of the Mozart
to compare with Lickl-Pichl.

On a side note, I stumbled on another interesting website
with lots of
links: http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/csms/ , the Czech
and Slovak Music Society.

David Goldberg


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[Hornlist] Music

2008-06-06 Thread Ashley Grothe
I have a french horn friend who gave me a burnt CD of a bunch of horn pieces 
(solos, duets, choirs, etc.). It was unmarked and he had it forever (along with 
SEVERAL french horn disks) so he didn't remember for sure where it came from. 
On it was a recording of Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen, but played by horns and 
couple other back-up instruments. I found a video of what appears to be the 
same arrangement (or maybe group, i don't know) on youtube 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSXvqRXaJ0M) I was just wondering if anyone 
knew where I might be able to find a copy of sheet music for this piece.
I know this is really vague, and unlikely to turn anything up, but I wondered 
if anyone else out there knew what I was talking about and could help me out. I 
wish I had more information, sorry.
 
Ashley
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Re: [Hornlist] Music- Bohemian Rhapsody

2008-06-06 Thread Martin Bender

Hi Ashley,

You might try the Mnozil Brass website (www.mnozilbrass.at-- this is  
the group who arranged and performed Bohemian Rhapsody for brass) and  
they have many of their arrangements available for purchase. While I  
haven't looked over every piece they have offered, it may be there.


Hope this starts things off for you,

Regards,
martin bender



On 6-Jun-08, at 3:58 PM, Ashley Grothe wrote:

I have a french horn friend who gave me a burnt CD of a bunch of  
horn pieces (solos, duets, choirs, etc.). It was unmarked and he had  
it forever (along with SEVERAL french horn disks) so he didn't  
remember for sure where it came from. On it was a recording of  
Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen, but played by horns and couple other  
back-up instruments. I found a video of what appears to be the same  
arrangement (or maybe group, i don't know) on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSXvqRXaJ0M 
) I was just wondering if anyone knew where I might be able to find  
a copy of sheet music for this piece.
I know this is really vague, and unlikely to turn anything up, but I  
wondered if anyone else out there knew what I was talking about and  
could help me out. I wish I had more information, sorry.


Ashley
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Re: [Hornlist] Music

2008-06-06 Thread Dan Phillips


On Jun 6, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Ashley Grothe wrote:
On it was a recording of Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen, but played by  
horns and couple other back-up instruments. I found a video of what  
appears to be the same arrangement (or maybe group, i don't know) on  
youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSXvqRXaJ0M) I was just  
wondering if anyone knew where I might be able to find a copy of  
sheet music for this piece.


I haven't watched the video, but I would guess it's likely the  
arrangement from the London Horn Sound CD. It, along with several  
others from that CD, is available here:


http://tinyurl.com/77j6h

Dan



Dan Phillips
Associate Professor
Rudi E. Scheidt School of Music
University of Memphis
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[Hornlist] Bohemian Rhapsody

2008-06-06 Thread David A. Jewell
Ashley Grothe:
On it was a recording of Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen, but played by horns and 
couple other back-up instrumentsI was just wondering if anyone knew where I 
might be able to find a copy of sheet music for this piece.

The CD is The London Horn Sound  available from the store at poperepair.com 
and the music is available from the url http://tinyurl.com/77j6h as Dan 
Phillips already wrote.


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I have a french horn friend who gave me a burnt CD of a bunch of horn pieces 
(solos, duets, choirs, etc.). It was unmarked and he had it forever (along with 
SEVERAL french horn disks) so he didn't remember for sure where it came from.  
I found a video of what appears to be the same arrangement (or maybe group, i 
don't know) on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSXvqRXaJ0M) I know this 
is really vague, and unlikely to turn anything up, but I wondered if anyone 
else out there knew what I was talking about and could help me out. I wish I 
had more information, sorry.

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RE: [Hornlist] Bohemian Rhapsody

2008-06-06 Thread Ashley Grothe

Cool. Thanks.
(I really didn't think anyone would know what I was talking about...)
 
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[Hornlist] OT: What Is This?

2008-06-06 Thread Steve Freides
Anyone tell me what this is?  It's currently on ebay and the seller has no
clue.

http://www.kbnj.com/ebaytuba.jpg

Thanks in advance.

-S-

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[Hornlist] Re:What Is This?

2008-06-06 Thread dalleyhn
It is a tenor horn, somewhat like a Baritone Horn but with upright bell. Common 
in Europe.
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Re: [Hornlist] Re:What Is This?

2008-06-06 Thread Jerry Houston

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It is a tenor horn, somewhat like a Baritone Horn but with upright bell. Common 
in Europe.
  


A tenor horn, common in Europe, is an alto horn in the US.  I use a 
Denis Wick tenor horn mouthpiece in my upright Eb alto.


The pictured horn looked more like a cheap 3-valve euphonium to me.  One 
that badly needs its bell ironed out.


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Re: [Hornlist] Re:What Is This?

2008-06-06 Thread David Goldberg
Or do a google image search on 'saxhorn' to see lots of critters like 
this, and visit http://www.dodworth.org/ to see Michigan's very own 
Dodworth Saxhorn Band, and some history.


David Goldberg

Jerry Houston wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is a tenor horn, somewhat like a Baritone Horn but with upright 
bell. Common in Europe.
  


A tenor horn, common in Europe, is an alto horn in the US.  I use a 
Denis Wick tenor horn mouthpiece in my upright Eb alto.


The pictured horn looked more like a cheap 3-valve euphonium to me.  
One that badly needs its bell ironed out.


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Re: [Hornlist] OT: What Is This?

2008-06-06 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Please give the link to the original auction.

Klaus 


--- On Sat, 6/7/08, Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Anyone tell me what this is?  It's currently on ebay and
 the seller has no
 clue.
 
 http://www.kbnj.com/ebaytuba.jpg
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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[Hornlist] buying a new horn article

2008-06-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linda and anyone else who is looking to buy a horn -

Be sure to check out this article by Eldon Matlick, it is a great resource:

http://www.corno.it/Articoli/SoYouWantToBuyAHorn.html

David Meichle
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RE: [Hornlist] OT: What Is This?

2008-06-06 Thread hans
It looks like a Saxhorn on a Beijingstyle Carpet. 


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Anyone tell me what this is?  It's currently on ebay and the
seller has no clue.

http://www.kbnj.com/ebaytuba.jpg

Thanks in advance.

-S-

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RE: [Hornlist] buying a new horn article

2008-06-06 Thread Linda
Thanks, David (and Eldon)! I'll pass this along to my friend.

Linda


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Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 0:02
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Subject: [Hornlist] buying a new horn article

Linda and anyone else who is looking to buy a horn -

Be sure to check out this article by Eldon Matlick, it is a great resource:

http://www.corno.it/Articoli/SoYouWantToBuyAHorn.html

David Meichle
Lawrence University


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