Re: Subject: FMID descriptions

2009-06-01 Thread Linda Mooney
Jim, 



Share with me too, please! 



Thanks, 



Linda Mooney 


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Bob, 
        My shop does annual serverpacs and what I did was to generate the 
CPAC products report to a pre-allocated 
dataset.  I then wrote an exec to parse out all the FMIDs and their plain 
English equivalents.  We use this to provide 
dynamically generated web pages to publish what maintenence we've applied 
during a given maintenence cycle. 
I've also used GIMAPI and Rexx code to extract the same data from the CSI. 
 I'd be happy to share so if you'd like so 
please let me know. 

Jim Holloway - MetLife 
jhollo...@metlife.com 

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 Subject: FMID descriptions 
 
 Does anyone have any REXX code to grab English description FMID table 
 entries out of GIM.SGIMTENU's BCNFMDS member by passing it the FMID in 
 question? 
 
 I am writing some code to parse information from the ERROR SYSMODS 
 Report and want to provide the reader with ICKDSF instead of EDU1H01, et 
 al. I looked at the various SMP/E LIST commands, but parsing any one of 
 those reports seems to be overkill for my purposes. 
 
 Kurt Q, feel free to jump in here and tell me that it is possible run 
 some report that just provides these two pieces of information. I looked 
 in the archives and see that others have cut and paste some of this info 
 from web pages or have their own lists, but am looking for something 
 that would be automatically updated based on my product set. 
 
 Other suggestions are also welcome! :-) 
 
 Bob 
 


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Re: FMID descriptions

2009-06-01 Thread R.S.

Paul Gilmartin pisze:

On Sun, 31 May 2009 07:49:12 -0700, Howard Rifkind wrote:


Would it be wonderful if IBM could just figure out how to make the FMID's 
really directly relate the the software product name...


Particularly, why not allow FMIDs to be much longer than 7 characters (say
about 50 characters) so a meaningful product name could be embedded in the
FMID?


ROTFL!
It's like, like allowing lowercase  symbols in JCL!
It could be even convenient - which is strictly forbidden in mainframe 
world!
We have to live with SRELs (only historicians knows the root of the name 
and nobody know the reasons for that), 7-characters FMIDs and many other 
facilities.


Coulldn't resist...
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Re: IBM speaks up on DB2 issue

2009-06-01 Thread Dirk Johann
You see: it is about DB2 LUW, not DB2 z/OS. There are no containers on DB2
z/OS.

Dirk
 

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IBM clears name in GSIS system crash
By Karen Flores, abs-cbnNEWS.com | 05/31/2009 1:26 PM

Officials of IBM Philippines finally broke their silence regarding their
alleged liability in the Government Service Insurance System (GSIS) system
crash.

In an exclusive meeting with ABS-CBN News on Friday, IBM officials made it
clear that the company does not have any contractual obligation to support
the state-run pension fund manager, saying that IBM is merely an original
equipment manufacturer (OEM) to one of the technology vendors engaged by
GSIS.

If you look at the project, we're really nowhere near it...How can we
establish the root cause if we don't have a contractual obligation to them?
IBM said.

An OEM is a producer that provides a certain product to its client, who in
turn proceeds to customize it before distributing it to its customers. In
this case, IBM is an OEM to business software solutions firm SAP by
providing a database management software called IBM DB2.

According to IBM's website, the company has worked with SAP for more than 35
years in offering solutions that help governments integrate processes and
systems.

SAP, in turn, is involved with systems integrator Questronix Corp., who
leads the whole project with GSIS. Questronix has been a business partner of
IBM for over 20 years, as mentioned in the former's official website.

For the GSIS project, IBM said the software they provided is tasked to
manage the fund manager's records and loans. They said, however, that IBM
DB2's performance is based on how it is used by the agency or company in
charge of handling the software.

We don't know how DB2 is customized. [There are] so many things involved in
an SAP application project, IBM said.

We only work through SAP, Questronix. [Still,] we're more than willing to
talk to them (GSIS), fix solutions, IBM added.

IBM blamed for system crash

Earlier, GSIS demanded IBM to provide a permanent fix to the DB2 software
and to shoulder expenses caused by the inherent defects of the software to
the fund manager's operations.

GSIS said the IBM software had started showing problems last year,
particularly in handling voluminous chunks of data. In response to this, IBM
then upgraded its database system purportedly to enable it to handle
unlimited volumes of data.

But GSIS said the upgrade only worsened the problem as the database began
mishandling data. The GSIS system eventually crashed two months ago,
paralyzing major operations of the pension fund manager and resulting in the
slowdown of its claims and loans processing.

IBM, however said that a system can crash in many ways. When all data is
stored in a single container instead of multiple destinations, a crash will
occur unless they spread the data out.

Corrupted data can also cause the system to crash, this is called a 'bad
page.' An application, a disk, or even data itself can be a source of
corruption, IBM added.

According to Elamparo, IBM already knew of the problems of its software
almost a year before the system crashed. IBM, however, said GSIS only
advised them about the crash last April 9. We have nothing to do, much less
aware of, previous crashes.

The company also denied the pension fund manager's claims that even
Questronix and SAP pointed the blame to the IBM DB2 software. Questronix
hasn't established the root cause. They didn't blame IBM. GSIS should
evaluate their processes, IBM explained.

This issue has caused damage to the company. [GSIS] said IBM is
responsible, but we don't even know what the root problem is. They made it
look like we were very involved. They never came to IBM, the company added.

Still, IBM said it is willing to have an amicable discussion with GSIS so
the issue can finally be settled. As much as possible, we don't want to say
anything against our client. GSIS is still our client.


  

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Re: VSE RPG question

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Washburn
Thanks, I did cross post it to that list as well. I have received a few
comments both publicly and privately.




   
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VSE-L might be a very good place to ask. Also, if you're not familiar with
the organization already, WAVV's homepage is here:

http://www.wavv.org

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Randy Barnett is out of the office.

2009-06-01 Thread Randy Barnett
I will be out of the office starting  05/31/2009 and will not return until
06/04/2009.

Vacation - No email access - No cell phone.

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Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-06-01 Thread Chase, John
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 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:51 AM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net
wrote:
 
  A good idea. However, we only have 3390-3 volumes. And, as I said in
  another post, if I have a large amount of unused space in a SMS
pool,
  then management becomes unglued. Of course, I could just leave the
entire
  space allocated to a zFS file. I'll see if I can talk my manager
into
  that. Thanks for the idea.
 
 I don't know whether to be comforted or irritated to see people still
 suffering from the stupidity of ancient volume architectures. I have a
bag
 full of cheap USB thumb drives that are bigger than a mod 3. Nobody
has seen
 a real 3390 in at least a decade. Storage volumes are all virtual now.
Why
 not just make 'em as big as you need and be done with all this
nuttiness?

Institutional[ized] Inertia.  But we do have a handful of mod-9s
now  :-)

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Re: VSE RPG question

2009-06-01 Thread Bill Washburn
Thanks for the statistics- I'd say we're one of the shops that would fall
into the category of using RPG a lot!

I've come across your 'RPG-ZOS' page in the past. (one of the few relevant
hits you get when you google 'rpg vse')

We've never had an issue with using a 3270 emulator running BimEdit to code
in RPG. You can map the keyboard to do all kinds of things.

I am interested in hearing about rpg-cobol conversion tools.

Thanks

Bill





   
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On Friday 29 May 2009 16:12, Bill Washburn wrote:

 Does anyone have a reasonably good idea of

I'm not sure my opinion is reasonable

 a) how many active VSE shops there are worldwide?

thousands, but probably fewer now than there were last year

 b) how many VSE shops have any RPGII code in production?

based on my experience, something like 10%, but I don't really know.

I was involved in over 100 VSE-to-MVS conversions and my recollection is
that
only a few customers (perhaps 10%) used RPG. Some of them used RPG a lot !


I learned RPG in 1969 and wrote RPG programs until 1974.  RPG was designed
for
punch-cards, and like DYL260, requires programmers to write code in
specific
columns.  Not really convenient when programmers use 3270-type terminals
instead of card-punch machines.  I think there is half-a-dozen RPG-to-COBOL

conversion tools Iin case you're interested).

http://gsf-soft.com/Documents/RPG-ZOS.shtml

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Re: FMID descriptions

2009-06-01 Thread Ken Klein
That rexx exec does not work for  me. Where should it be executed? Option 6? 
From within the smp dialog? How does it find this table? 

Anything easier to use out there? 

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Re: FMID descriptions

2009-06-01 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Ken,

Like me, you probably do not have the SMP/E ISPTLIB pre-allocated.

Add a LIBDEF statement before the TBOPEN 

'LIBDEF ISPTLIB DATASET ID(''SYS1.GIM.SGIMTENU'')'

and after the TBCLOSE

'LIBDEF ISPTLIB'

Bob

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That rexx exec does not work for  me. Where should it be executed?
Option 6? 
From within the smp dialog? How does it find this table? 

Anything easier to use out there? 

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Re: FMID descriptions

2009-06-01 Thread Kurt Quackenbush

There's a hopeful note here.  If you're correct in your plausible
surmise that Kurt was engaging in (displaced) self-deprecation, it
implies he's sensitive to the concern.


I am sensitive to the concern.  I'd like to provide a REXX interface to 
GIMAPI, but unfortunately its priority doesn't compare to other work. 
Next time I'll remember to include a smiley in my response.


Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

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Re: VSE RPG question

2009-06-01 Thread Thompson, Steve
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AT 16:23 +0200 ON 05/30/2009, GILBERT SAINT-FLOUR WROTE ABOUT RE: VSE 
 RPG QUESTION:

RPG was designed for punch-cards, and like DYL260, requires 
programmers to write code in specific columns. Not really convenient 
when programmers use 3270-type terminals instead of card-punch 
machines.

If you are using SPF, you just need to set up a Tabs bar and either 
tab between columns or just type a tab glyph character (which you 
set). Thus you can type:

  Field1\Field2\Field3 etc.

(where the \ is the tab glyph you defined) and as soon as you hit 
Enter, the characters will move to the correct locations on the line. 
This is no different from entering ASM or COBOL code.
SNIP

And you are going to change your edit macro (or have it smart enough to
handle...) as you need to enter/update F/E/L/I/C/O/** specs?  (If you
don't know RPG, you won't recognize **).

BTDT, and it sucks.

Regards,
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Re: FMID descriptions

2009-06-01 Thread Kurt Quackenbush

Richards, Robert B. wrote:

Unless I coded it wrong SET BDY(TARGET). UNLOAD SYSMODS FUNCTIONS.,
why do you think it is easier? Both UNLOAD and LIST are multi-line
reports.


To me having the values delineated by subentrytype(value) seems a bit 
easier to parse and pick off the stuff you want.  Yes you still have to 
parse multi-line output.  I suppose its six of one, half a dozen of the 
other.



How about providing the FMID description on the summary section of the
ERROR SYSMOD report? :-) The print line has the room! grin


Duly noted.


In the absence of that, do you approve of the BCNFMDS method as being
accurate?


Yes, that is accurate and seems a fine use for your purposes.  Although 
we have no plans right now that would affect the BCNFMDS table, 
understand of course the usual caveats apply -- it's not a published 
program interface, so in the future we could change the structure of 
that table, eliminate it, etc.


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service link down ?

2009-06-01 Thread Lionel B Dyck
I am getting an error code 500 when I try to connect to service link this 
morning :(

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Re: service link down ?

2009-06-01 Thread Thompson, Steve
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I am getting an error code 500 when I try to connect to service link
this=20
morning :(

snip

I got logged in and then it failed with a privacy issue. It was caused
by a malformed URL that had HTTP:// rather than HTTPS://.

Seems this system is still not quite ready to replace the VM system.

Regards,
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service link

2009-06-01 Thread Lionel B Dyck
I just called the help # and was told to connect to 
http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink - that allowed me to login and access it.

The biggest challenge was the voice message on the service link help 
number was a very very strong accent that was nearly impossible to 
understand.

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Re: service link down ?

2009-06-01 Thread McKown, John
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Re: service link down ?

2009-06-01 Thread Barkow, Eileen
this url should work but it is failing today. 

looks like service link is down

 

https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/servicelink

 

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Subject: service link down ?

 

I am getting an error code 500 when I try to connect to service link

this=20

morning :(

 

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I got logged in and then it failed with a privacy issue. It was caused

by a malformed URL that had HTTP:// rather than HTTPS://.

 

Seems this system is still not quite ready to replace the VM system.

 

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Re: FMID descriptions

2009-06-01 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Kurt,

Caveats understood.

In case some are wondering, the reason I am providing this information
is to satisfy a request for auditing/security purposes by providing what
I like to call pseudo vulnerability scanning reports. 

We all know that our favorite platform is not very vulnerable when using
the Windows platform as the baseline standard for this topic, but I had
to come up with something to report on and ERROR SYSMODS seemed to fit
the bill. Yeah, I know, it's a stretch, but they seemed to like the
idea. :-)

I had to provide the English descriptions for the FMIDs and even with
them, the intended audience will probably not have a clue as to what
they do. 

Bob  


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Subject: Re: FMID descriptions

Richards, Robert B. wrote:
 Unless I coded it wrong SET BDY(TARGET). UNLOAD SYSMODS FUNCTIONS.,
 why do you think it is easier? Both UNLOAD and LIST are multi-line
 reports.

To me having the values delineated by subentrytype(value) seems a bit 
easier to parse and pick off the stuff you want.  Yes you still have to 
parse multi-line output.  I suppose its six of one, half a dozen of the 
other.

 How about providing the FMID description on the summary section of the
 ERROR SYSMOD report? :-) The print line has the room! grin

Duly noted.

 In the absence of that, do you approve of the BCNFMDS method as being
 accurate?

Yes, that is accurate and seems a fine use for your purposes.  Although 
we have no plans right now that would affect the BCNFMDS table, 
understand of course the usual caveats apply -- it's not a published 
program interface, so in the future we could change the structure of 
that table, eliminate it, etc.

Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

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Re: service link down ?

2009-06-01 Thread Greg Shirey
This is the link I had been using for a long time, but has not worked
for me for weeks.
The link Lionel posted works, however.

Greg 

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this url should work but it is failing today. 

looks like service link is down


https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/servicelink

 

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GRS and Generic vs Specific

2009-06-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
If I have the following in my GRS member of parmlib


RNLDEF RNL(CON)  TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSVTOC)
RNLDEF RNL(CON)  TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(DCXCF1)
 
RNLDEF RNL(CON)  TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(DCXCF2)
 
RNLDEF RNL(CON)  TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(DCXCF3)
 

Does not the GENERIC for SYSVTOC do the same thing as the three specific 
definitions?

I am thinking I do not need the three specific ones so long as I have the 
GENERIC for SYSVTOC.

Lizette

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Re: service link down ?

2009-06-01 Thread Barkow, Eileen
in my case something is wrong with the proxy servers processing ssl.
since many people had a problem, IBM must have changed something with
ssl processing. I still cannot get into IBMLINK with IE, but I have
another browser from which I can change the proxy server options and
that works, although that too keeps spinning out a msg about ssl being
disabled.

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This is the link I had been using for a long time, but has not worked
for me for weeks.
The link Lionel posted works, however.

Greg 

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this url should work but it is failing today. 

looks like service link is down


https://www-304.ibm.com/ibmlink/servicelink

 

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Re: GRS and Generic vs Specific

2009-06-01 Thread Rick Fochtman

snip---


If I have the following in my GRS member of parmlib
   


RNLDEF RNL(CON)  TYPE(GENERIC)  QNAME(SYSVTOC)
RNLDEF RNL(CON)  TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(DCXCF1) 
RNLDEF RNL(CON)  TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(DCXCF2) 
RNLDEF RNL(CON)  TYPE(SPECIFIC) QNAME(SYSVTOC) RNAME(DCXCF3) 


Does not the GENERIC for SYSVTOC do the same thing as the three specific 
definitions?

I am thinking I do not need the three specific ones so long as I have the 
GENERIC for SYSVTOC.
 


--unsnip--
You are correct..

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Re: 3592 Upgrade in an ATL to TS1130's

2009-06-01 Thread Ken Porowski
Thanks Mike

Follow up question.

In IDCAMS it states that readcompat should only be set for private
volumes.

Is there any harm in setting it for scratch volumes too?

It would make the transition easier because we wouldn't have to extract
just the private volumes to alter.

SPECIALATTRIBUTE{READCOMPATIBLE|NONE} 
Shows special attributes of the tape volume. 
Use this parameter only for private tape volumes. 
Scratch tape volumes default to NONE. 
READCOMPATIBLE On subsequent allocations, read compatible devices for
allocation of this tape volume are used. 
NONE There are no special tape attributes. 

Thanks
Ken

-Original Message-
Mike Wood

Ken,  Yes. see http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-
bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2j110/1.1.10.1?
SHELF=EZ2ZBK0G.bksDT=20080520122739

Mike Wood   RMM Development

On Thu, 28 May 2009 12:29:46 -0400, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com
wrote:

We are about to upgrade our ATL (3494) tape drives from 3592-J1A and
3592-E05 (aka TS1120) to 3592-E06 and 3592-EU6 (aka TS1130).  These are

the only 3592 drives in the ATL and all are on the same controller.

The TS1130's can only READ EFMT1 but can R/W EFMT2/3.  
All of our existing 3592 carts are EFMT1.

From what I can tell (from RTFM) I need to set the READCOMPATIBLE 
attribute for every 3592 volume I have if I expect the TS1130's to be 
considered for the mount of an EFMT1 tape (otherwise the mount will 
fail because of no eligible devices).

Can anyone confirm/deny that I need to do this.  

Thanks all.

Ken Porowski
AVP Systems Software
CIT Group
E: ken.porow...@cit.com

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TCPIP Default keep alive question

2009-06-01 Thread Vic Petrone
Is there a programming interface to extract the DefaultKeepALive value that is 
stored the TCP Configuration Table? 

This is the same value that the TSO NETSTAT CONFIG command displays.

Thanks,
Vic

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Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-06-01 Thread Howard Brazee
On 01 Jun 09 08:19:23 -0800, Charlie Gibbs cgi...@kltpzyxm.invalid
wrote:

Another method used by some shops to distinguish special cards was
by giving them a different corner cut, e.g. top right vs. the usual
top left.  I've even seen cards with no corner cut at all, although
this was rare.

A slightly more subtle technique was for the special cards to have
square-cut corners rather than the standard rounded ones.  Such
corners tended to wear faster, but this wasn't much of a factor
on single-use header cards.

I've seen all of that - with cards with different cuts in the same
deck, to make them easy to locate.

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Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-06-01 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
And in some cases such a connection is simply illegal.

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On Sat, 30 May 2009, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

 
 Someone here once suggested that all local storage of unloaded
 relative files should be eliminated: it shouldn't be RECEIVE
 FROMNETWORK, but APPLY FROMNETWORK, accessing the Great SMPPTS
 in the Sky.  But I know of no vendor that avoids the two step
 process, separating transfer from install.  Overlapping them
 vastly complicates recovery from network failures.
 
 -- gil

Not all z/OS installations allow the z/OS system to access the Internet.

We don't. It is regarded as too risky. I know, I know, but that is the 
opinion of those in charge. Today, 'my way or the high way' is just too 
likely to allow me (at least) to try to convince anybody of anything too

strongly.

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Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-06-01 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
I guess you guys never have to support a customer whose system doesn't
even include TCP/IP, let alone anything modern.

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Chris Craddock pisze:
 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:51 AM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net
wrote:
 
 A good idea. However, we only have 3390-3 volumes. And, as I said in
 another post, if I have a large amount of unused space in a SMS
pool,
 then management becomes unglued. Of course, I could just leave the
entire
 space allocated to a zFS file. I'll see if I can talk my manager into
 that. Thanks for the idea.

 I don't know whether to be comforted or irritated to see people still
 suffering from the stupidity of ancient volume architectures. I have a
bag
 full of cheap USB thumb drives that are bigger than a mod 3. Nobody
has seen
 a real 3390 in at least a decade. Storage volumes are all virtual now.
Why
 not just make 'em as big as you need and be done with all this
nuttiness?

This is not stupidity of ancient volume architecture. The architecture 
was quite OK in ancient times. The stupid thing is to conserve the 
ancient architecture. I'm aware it's often choice of management, not 
technical staff.
When we talk about mainframe A.D. 2009 we simply don't have such 
problems! Think about EAV or NFS attached USB.
3390-3 is history, as BusTag, punched cards or other Dodo's. Yes, you 
can still use it - that's one of the mainframe strengths, but you don't 
have to.

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CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-01 Thread John Au
We are trying to get CL/Supersession to work with APPN and not using the 
VTAM Cross Domain facilities.  We would like to phase out our Front end 
processor (3745).  Has anyone had any luck doing this?

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Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Ron Wells
Trying to interp routing code(s) on left side of syslog.

Is there a break down of the codes that are displayed and meanings??

example below

N C00 XA91 09152 14:33:02.95  0281  $HASP309 INIT 15 
INACT

  /\

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Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Yes there is information.

In section  4.1.15 SYSLOG records

in the manual:   z/OS V1R9.0 MVS Planning: Operations
Document Number: SA22-7601-08

should help you here.

Lizette



Trying to interp routing code(s) on left side of syslog.

Is there a break down of the codes that are displayed and meanings??

example below

N C00 XA91 09152 14:33:02.95  0281  $HASP309 INIT 15 
INACT


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Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Ron Wells
thanks
hit nail on the head...



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Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes
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Yes there is information.

In section  4.1.15 SYSLOG records

in the manual:   z/OS V1R9.0 MVS Planning: Operations
Document Number: SA22-7601-08

should help you here.

Lizette



Trying to interp routing code(s) on left side of syslog.

Is there a break down of the codes that are displayed and meanings??

example below

N C00 XA91 09152 14:33:02.95  0281  $HASP309 INIT 15 
INACT


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Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Ron Wells
Guess I was too quick...
The beginning of the SYSLOG has 

NR000  XA91 09152 15:10:44.93 STC06632 0080  IST097I VARY 
ACCEPTED
/\ /\  This is the Prefix it talks about 
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ these are the codes from what I am 
reading
 But what is the 7digits ?
000filer ?? 



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Trying to interp routing code(s) on left side of syslog.

Is there a break down of the codes that are displayed and meanings??

example below

N C00 XA91 09152 14:33:02.95  0281  $HASP309 INIT 15 
INACT

  /\

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Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Field, Alan C.
See the IHAHCLOG macro description of the format.

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Guess I was too quick...
The beginning of the SYSLOG has 

NR000  XA91 09152 15:10:44.93 STC06632 0080  IST097I VARY 
ACCEPTED
/\ /\  This is the Prefix it talks about 
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ these are the codes from what I am 
reading
 But what is the 7digits ?
000filer ?? 



From:
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Trying to interp routing code(s) on left side of syslog.

Is there a break down of the codes that are displayed and meanings??

example below

N C00 XA91 09152 14:33:02.95  0281  $HASP309 INIT 15 
INACT

  /\

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Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Ron Wells
see it say descriptor codes-7char guess I'm missing something..where 
are the codes ?




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See the IHAHCLOG macro description of the format.

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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Mon Jun 01 15:45:44 2009
Subject: Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

Guess I was too quick...
The beginning of the SYSLOG has 

NR000  XA91 09152 15:10:44.93 STC06632 0080  IST097I VARY 
ACCEPTED
/\ /\  This is the Prefix it talks about 
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ these are the codes from what I am 
reading
 But what is the 7digits ?
000filer ?? 



From:
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Date:
06/01/2009 02:34 PM
Subject:
Re:SYSLOG-Routing codes


Trying to interp routing code(s) on left side of syslog.

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example below

N C00 XA91 09152 14:33:02.95  0281  $HASP309 INIT 15 
INACT

  /\

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Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-01 Thread Bob Rutledge
They are described in the introduction part of any volume of System Messages 
under Messages sent to hardcopy...:  First 28 route codes.


Bob

Ron Wells wrote:

Guess I was too quick...
The beginning of the SYSLOG has 
NR000  XA91 09152 15:10:44.93 STC06632 0080  IST097I VARY 
ACCEPTED
/\ /\  This is the Prefix it talks about 
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ these are the codes from what I am 

reading
 But what is the 7digits ?
000filer ?? 


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Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Mason
John

The customer with which I work from time to time uses Supersession. It has 
continued to work without any difficulties while we changed the underlying 
SNA architecture from subarea (cross-domain) to APPN without any 
difficulties whatsoever.

Do you have any specific concerns?

Incidentally, a systems programmer there has even researched using VTAM 
generic resources with Supersession with success. We hope to put that into 
production in the near future all in support of the general objective of 
introducing redundancy in support of continuous availability.

It's not down to luck but understanding and planning!

Chris Mason

On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:21:05 -0500, John Au john...@paccar.com wrote:

We are trying to get CL/Supersession to work with APPN and not using the
VTAM Cross Domain facilities.  We would like to phase out our Front end
processor (3745).  Has anyone had any luck doing this?

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DRXRC duplex mode for system logger

2009-06-01 Thread Skip Robinson
Although we've been using XRC for DASD mirroring for a decade, we're just
now looking at using 'DRXRC' duplex mode (new in 1.7) to facilitate
disaster recovery of log streams. The goal would be to allow warm start of
our major logger exploiters: CICS regions (a lot of them) and RRS. We
currently have to cold start these puppies in order to get up and running.

Does anyone have experience with this sort of mirroring and recovery?


.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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Re: VSE RPG question

2009-06-01 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:35 -0400 on 06/01/2009, Thompson, Steve wrote about Re: VSE  
RPG question:



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AT 16:23 +0200 ON 05/30/2009, GILBERT SAINT-FLOUR WROTE ABOUT RE: VSE
 RPG QUESTION:


RPG was designed for punch-cards, and like DYL260, requires
programmers to write code in specific columns. Not really convenient
when programmers use 3270-type terminals instead of card-punch

 machines.

[snip of my comment about using auto-tabbing

And you are going to change your edit macro (or have it smart enough to
handle...) as you need to enter/update F/E/L/I/C/O/** specs?  (If you
don't know RPG, you won't recognize **).

BTDT, and it sucks.


I may be misunderstanding you but I fail to see how the need for 
DISPLAY Highlighting has anything to do with getting the text 
contents into the correct columns (which was the original complaint 
that I was responding to).


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