Re: XEDIT question

2011-04-07 Thread Les Koehler

Try IOS3270 from the VM Download Library. It's pretty neat.

Les

Tom Huegel wrote:

It looks like XEDIT is too much effort for now, maybe I'll get back to it
later.
I wanted all other fiedls to be update-able.
Maybe I'll use my old program that does DIAG58's ... Not today though.


On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:


Sure, just like FILELIST et. al. do! But Tom's opening statement was:

I don't do XEDIT macro's that often...

I suspect he might be better off with something like IOS3270. That labels
me as an old codger, doesn't it!
I've been retired to long to know what the modern equivalent might be.

Les


Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:


Not true.  You can do it, but it's a lot of work.  You have to process
the screen contents yourself (READ ALL TAG) and update file and screen
contents yourself.

 Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

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Subject: Re: XEDIT question

You can do it IF you're willing to change the file itself just to display
it. Then, of course, you can't make text changes and save it in its original
form. There are better tools available if that's what you want to do.

Les

Tom Huegel wrote:


I don't do XEDIT macro's that often so this may be obvious to some,


but I


can't seem to find the 'how to' answer.

Is there a way, (how to do it?) to set screen attributes on a file?
The SET RESERVED is fine it I want to affect the whole row, but I want


to


highlight-skip columns of data from the edited file.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks



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Re: VM CONSOLE on the 9672

2011-04-07 Thread Kris Buelens
Does your 9672 runs in LPAR mode?  If not, it is possible that the
Integrated 3270 console doesn't work, it'll remain black.

And, to complement Alan: you enter SYSG in the loadparm field to get the
SAPL screen.  Then in the overrides, you can enter CONS=SYSG to get CP there
too.

2011/4/7 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com

 On Thursday, 04/07/2011 at 12:10 EDT, Ray Padre ray.pa...@metcash.com
 wrote:
  Thanks Alan.  I've been googling but finding no useful information on
  the topic.  Can you suggest a good reference on the subject?

 Once you've selected an LPAR on the HMC, one of the Recovery actions will
 be Integrated 3270 Console.  Open it up and you'll get a CP logo.  If
 you want it to be the operator's console at IPL, then you need to have the
 window open BEFORE you IPL.  If you don't have SYSTEM_3270 in your
 OPERATOR_CONSOLES statement in SYSTEM CONFIG, then you'll need to specify
 a console of CONSSYSG in the loadparm.

 Don't use the Configure 3270 Sessions app.  That's for creating telnet
 sessions.


 Alan Altmark

 z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
 IBM System Lab Services and Training
 ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
 office: 607.429.3323
 mobile; 607.321.7556
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Re: Something wrong with my USERID

2011-04-07 Thread Kris Buelens
So, include a 'CP SET SYSOPER *' in the PROFILE EXEC of your VM operator
machine.  Then a simple XAUTOLOG operator helps curing the problem.

2011/4/6 Ron Schmiedge ron.schmie...@gmail.com

 You can use the Q SYSOPER command to tell who the system operator is.
 If it says you then this is why you are in this mode.

 On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
  terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote:
 
  Yes that was it. What normally happens to get this In this mode?
 
  Happens when the System Operator userid was logged off and next person
  to log on with a CLASS A wins the prize.
  You should start OPERATOR again and run whatever you use there (eg
  PROP). The SET SYSOPER lets you give it back to the proper userid.
 
  Rob
 




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Re: VM CONSOLE on the 9672

2011-04-07 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Are you talking about a 9672 which is at least 2 if not at least 3
generations old?  What would be the most current version of VM that box
could run?

 

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Subject: Re: VM CONSOLE on the 9672

 

Does your 9672 runs in LPAR mode?  If not, it is possible that the
Integrated 3270 console doesn't work, it'll remain black.

And, to complement Alan: you enter SYSG in the loadparm field to get the
SAPL screen.  Then in the overrides, you can enter CONS=SYSG to get CP
there too.

2011/4/7 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com

On Thursday, 04/07/2011 at 12:10 EDT, Ray Padre ray.pa...@metcash.com
wrote:

 Thanks Alan.  I've been googling but finding no useful information on
 the topic.  Can you suggest a good reference on the subject?

Once you've selected an LPAR on the HMC, one of the Recovery actions
will
be Integrated 3270 Console.  Open it up and you'll get a CP logo.  If
you want it to be the operator's console at IPL, then you need to have
the
window open BEFORE you IPL.  If you don't have SYSTEM_3270 in your
OPERATOR_CONSOLES statement in SYSTEM CONFIG, then you'll need to
specify
a console of CONSSYSG in the loadparm.

Don't use the Configure 3270 Sessions app.  That's for creating telnet
sessions.



Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
IBM Endicott




-- 
Kris Buelens,
IBM Belgium, VM customer support



Re: Will it run ?

2011-04-07 Thread Gentry, Stephen
One reason may be that 6.1 is sun downed before 5.4.  All be it by a few
months, so my point may be mute.

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On Wednesday, 04/06/2011 at 05:36 EDT, Graeme Moss 
ib...@mossaustralia.com wrote:
 I have the opportunity to work on upgrading a VM/ESA 2.2 system to
z/VM 
5.4
 on a new z10. I am wondering if I can run a copy of the 2.2 system
under 
5.4
 on a z10 during the build phase ?

Maybe**, on standard CPs of course.  :-)  But why would you put z/VM 5.4

on a z10?  Use z/VM 6.1 instead. If they bought z/VM V5 and have SS, 
they're entitled to z/VM V6.

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Re: XEDIT question

2011-04-07 Thread Tom Huegel
Yes I have toyed with IOS3270 in the past. This application just isn't worth
the effort. There will never be more than 16 records to display/update and
only 2 or 3 occasional users.

Thanks to everyone that responded.


On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

 Try IOS3270 from the VM Download Library. It's pretty neat.

 Les


 Tom Huegel wrote:

 It looks like XEDIT is too much effort for now, maybe I'll get back to it
 later.
 I wanted all other fiedls to be update-able.
 Maybe I'll use my old program that does DIAG58's ... Not today though.


 On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com
 wrote:

  Sure, just like FILELIST et. al. do! But Tom's opening statement was:

 I don't do XEDIT macro's that often...

 I suspect he might be better off with something like IOS3270. That labels
 me as an old codger, doesn't it!
 I've been retired to long to know what the modern equivalent might be.

 Les


 Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:

  Not true.  You can do it, but it's a lot of work.  You have to process
 the screen contents yourself (READ ALL TAG) and update file and screen
 contents yourself.

  Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

 -Original Message-
 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Les Koehler
 Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 11:23 AM
 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 Subject: Re: XEDIT question

 You can do it IF you're willing to change the file itself just to
 display
 it. Then, of course, you can't make text changes and save it in its
 original
 form. There are better tools available if that's what you want to do.

 Les

 Tom Huegel wrote:

  I don't do XEDIT macro's that often so this may be obvious to some,

  but I

  can't seem to find the 'how to' answer.

 Is there a way, (how to do it?) to set screen attributes on a file?
 The SET RESERVED is fine it I want to affect the whole row, but I want

  to

  highlight-skip columns of data from the edited file.

 Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 Thanks


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Happy Birthday S360

2011-04-07 Thread Tom Huegel
From today's almanac.


April 7 1964.
IBM introduced it's innovative System/360, the company's first line of
computers that gave customers the option of upgrading from lower-cost models
to more powerful expensive ones.


Re: XEDIT question

2011-04-07 Thread David Boyes
Have a look at XCOL from the vm download library. You could probably use that 
as a starting place.

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Tom Huegel
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:50 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: XEDIT question

Yes I have toyed with IOS3270 in the past. This application just isn't worth 
the effort. There will never be more than 16 records to display/update and only 
2 or 3 occasional users.




Service on second level system

2011-04-07 Thread Harris, Nick J.
Hello All,
I have successfully applied service to a second level z/VM and after a PUT2PROD 
and an IPL I expected to see something other than 0801 below...

q cplevel
z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 0801 (64-bit)
Generated at 04/07/11 09:13:34 CDT
IPL at 04/07/11 11:13:52 CDT
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:24:32

What am I missing?

TIA!

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Dirmaint : cards ordre

2011-04-07 Thread Alain Benveniste
I m trying to develop a tool to make directory migration easier and faste
r. At this time i would 
like to know if a doc references the order of the cards in a directory  :
 USER card must 
precede the INCLUDE cardetc.  and the last card should be *DVHOPT

An other  sequence would a serious problem ! 
Any idea ?

Alain


Re: Service on second level system

2011-04-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 04/07/2011 at 12:32 EDT, Harris, Nick J. 
nhar...@txfb-ins.com wrote:
 I have successfully applied service to a second level z/VM and after a 
PUT2PROD 
 and an IPL I expected to see something other than 0801 below?
 
 q cplevel  
 z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 0801 (64-bit)
 Generated at 04/07/11 09:13:34 CDT 
 IPL at 04/07/11 11:13:52 CDT   
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:24:32
 
 What am I missing?

Did you apply an RSU or did you apply specific PTFs?  Only an RSU will 
change the Service Level number.  (The concept of Service Level is nice. 
 In practice, however, it leaves something to be desired.)

More importantly, what were you expecting to see?

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IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
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Re: VM CONSOLE on the 9672

2011-04-07 Thread August Carideo
probably porting over what he was running on the MP3K



   
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Are you talking about a 9672 which is at least 2 if not at least 3
generations old?  What would be the most current version of VM that box
could run?

From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 7:08 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: VM CONSOLE on the 9672

Does your 9672 runs in LPAR mode?  If not, it is possible that the
Integrated 3270 console doesn't work, it'll remain black.

And, to complement Alan: you enter SYSG in the loadparm field to get the
SAPL screen.  Then in the overrides, you can enter CONS=SYSG to get CP
there too.
2011/4/7 Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
On Thursday, 04/07/2011 at 12:10 EDT, Ray Padre ray.pa...@metcash.com
wrote:
 Thanks Alan.  I've been googling but finding no useful information on
 the topic.  Can you suggest a good reference on the subject?
Once you've selected an LPAR on the HMC, one of the Recovery actions will
be Integrated 3270 Console.  Open it up and you'll get a CP logo.  If
you want it to be the operator's console at IPL, then you need to have the
window open BEFORE you IPL.  If you don't have SYSTEM_3270 in your
OPERATOR_CONSOLES statement in SYSTEM CONFIG, then you'll need to specify
a console of CONSSYSG in the loadparm.

Don't use the Configure 3270 Sessions app.  That's for creating telnet
sessions.


Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Dirmaint : cards ordre

2011-04-07 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Alan.

The order in which the directory statements for a given user entry in
the USER DIRECT file must appear is given in the CP Planning and
Administration publication, Chapter 17.

The *DVHOPT statement is an artifact used by DIRMAINT, and is ignored by
the DIRECTXA command. As such, it's not really a part of the user
directory entry.

DJ

On 04/07/2011 11:53 AM, Alain Benveniste wrote:
 I m trying to develop a tool to make directory migration easier and
 faster. At this time i would like to know if a doc references the order
 of the cards in a directory : USER card must precede the INCLUDE
 cardetc. and the last card should be *DVHOPT An other sequence would
 a serious problem ! Any idea ? Alain

-- 
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V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544


Re: Dirmaint : cards ordre

2011-04-07 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Dave

Ok I got it, thanks !

I would like to know how long does it take for you and others to migrate a
directory ?

Alain
 


Le 07/04/11 19:40, « Dave Jones » d...@vsoft-software.com a écrit :

 Hi, Alan.
 
 The order in which the directory statements for a given user entry in
 the USER DIRECT file must appear is given in the CP Planning and
 Administration publication, Chapter 17.
 
 The *DVHOPT statement is an artifact used by DIRMAINT, and is ignored by
 the DIRECTXA command. As such, it's not really a part of the user
 directory entry.
 
 DJ
 
 On 04/07/2011 11:53 AM, Alain Benveniste wrote:
 I m trying to develop a tool to make directory migration easier and
 faster. At this time i would like to know if a doc references the order
 of the cards in a directory : USER card must precede the INCLUDE
 cardetc. and the last card should be *DVHOPT An other sequence would
 a serious problem ! Any idea ? Alain


Re: VM CONSOLE on the 9672

2011-04-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 04/07/2011 at 08:24 EDT, Gentry, Stephen 
stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com wrote:
 Are you talking about a 9672 which is at least 2 if not at least 3 
generations 
 old?  What would be the most current version of VM that box could run?

z/VM Version 4 Release 4 was the last release to run on a 9672, but that's 
only interesting if (a) you have z/VM V4 laying around, and (2) you have 
the needed licenses.

z/VM V3 and VM/ESA, even though no longer available or serviced, still 
require payment of monthly license fees as long as you use them.  If the 
9672 moves you up to a new (virtual) model group, then your MLC increases.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training 
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices 
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2011-04-07 Thread Tom Driscoll


Re: XEDIT question

2011-04-07 Thread Kris Buelens
I don't think XCOL helps a lot to learn how to use/make XEDIT panels.
Maybe my old SMARTX package is easier (a panel front-end for RTM/ESA), or,
better, it has more features to use panels.  Like the panel itself being a
file that is XEDITed, so the panel can be longer han a screen, and PF8/PF7
can be used to scroll down/up.
Addresses very closely Tom's basic goal (protect/unportect some field).
It is based on an undocumented feature (the same that HELP uses): when a
READ NOCHANGE TAG is active, XEDIT doesn't require SET RESERVED commands to
cover all screen lines.  No, with READ NOCHNAGE TAG, XEDIT will honor the
control characters that are imbedded in the file that is displayed.  With
SMARTX, there is a file SMART COMMANDS with the imbedded panel data.
SMART XEDIT is the macro that displays the panel, gets the user input, etc.
Another tool I've got to make panels easy is my SELFS exec. It doesn't use
XEDIT buth the CMS WINDOW  VSCREEN commands.  SELFS is alos very well
suited to make scrollable panels.  The initial goal was to have an easy tool
to select one or more lines from a list, hence the name SELFS, SELect
FullScreen.  SELFS has some demo tool to illustrate its capablities.
And, at last there is my collegue's RxMessageBox (RXMB), what produces
nicely looking popup boxes, also based on CMS WINDOW  VSCREEN commands

I'll send those.

2011/4/7 David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net

 Have a look at XCOL from the vm download library. You could probably use
 that as a starting place.



 *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] *On
 Behalf Of *Tom Huegel
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:50 AM
 *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
 *Subject:* Re: XEDIT question



 Yes I have toyed with IOS3270 in the past. This application just isn't
 worth the effort. There will never be more than 16 records to display/update
 and only 2 or 3 occasional users.






-- 
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IBM Belgium, VM customer support


Re: Dirmaint : cards ordre

2011-04-07 Thread Dave Jones
Hi, Alan.

I'm not sure I understand your question.are you asking how long it
would take to merge a working, say 5.3, USER DIRECT file, with a number
of service and end user virtual machines defined, with a newly installed
z/VM 5.4 USER DIRECT file?

DJ

On 04/07/2011 01:29 PM, Alain Benvéniste wrote:
 Dave
 
 Ok I got it, thanks !
 
 I would like to know how long does it take for you and others to migrate a
 directory ?
 
 Alain
  
 
 
 Le 07/04/11 19:40, « Dave Jones » d...@vsoft-software.com a écrit :
 
 Hi, Alan.

 The order in which the directory statements for a given user entry in
 the USER DIRECT file must appear is given in the CP Planning and
 Administration publication, Chapter 17.

 The *DVHOPT statement is an artifact used by DIRMAINT, and is ignored by
 the DIRECTXA command. As such, it's not really a part of the user
 directory entry.

 DJ

 On 04/07/2011 11:53 AM, Alain Benveniste wrote:
 I m trying to develop a tool to make directory migration easier and
 faster. At this time i would like to know if a doc references the order
 of the cards in a directory : USER card must precede the INCLUDE
 cardetc. and the last card should be *DVHOPT An other sequence would
 a serious problem ! Any idea ? Alain
 

-- 
Dave Jones
V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544