KR>Value of a KR
Joe; Just send the cheque to Mark! I'm sure he would appreciate it. I have a similar amount of time invested in my plane. If you really want to save money take a Mac job and put the money towards a new airplane. But think of all the fun and experience you would miss out on. Thats what I keep telling myself. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkl...@vianet.on.ca - Original Message - From: "Joseph H Horton" > > > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > ___ > > KRnet mailing list > > kr...@mylist.net > > http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet > > > > > ___ > KRnet mailing list > kr...@mylist.net > http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet
KR>Glass cockpit-IFR etc.-Long
Brian; Venturi's are not suited for IFR as they will quickly ice up in adverse conditions. Also they create drag. I have two on my 150! W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkl...@vianet.on.ca - Original Message - From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re: KR>Glass cockpit-IFR etc.-Long > I did buy a casting from Dan Diehl to mount a vacuum pump on the VW. He sold them a long time ago and had one left that he gave me a good price on. I am not sure that I will use it though. If I do go IFR I will look at a venturi, all electric, or something like the EFIS systems and figure out which is best. > > ---Original Message--- > From: Dan Heath > Sent: 04/25/03 12:06 AM > To: kr...@mylist.net > Subject: Re: Re: KR>Glass cockpit-IFR etc.-Long > > > > > RE: If I can keep the sunny side up and the nose pointed in the right > direction fairly easily I will get the vacuum instruments to make it IFR. > > > > No flame here. I think your approach is good. I used to think that way > too > I will tell you, I had an electric turn coordinator and it, and a friend > on the radio, saved my life. > > > > If you do pass the test and continue on toward IFR, you will have to get > over the problem of getting an air supply system. You may want to > consider > an aircraft engine for this purpose. I have never figured out how to put > an > air pump for vacuum instruments, on a VW engine. However, I am sure it > can > be done. > > > > Good building and good luck. > > > > N64KR > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > da...@kr-builder.org > > > > See you in Red Oak - 2003 > > > > See our KR at href="http://KR-Builder.org";>http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at href="http://EAA242.org";>http://EAA242.org > > ___ > see KRnet list details at href="http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html";>http://www.krnet.org/instructi ons.html > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Questions
Phil. Would you check the Diel aero address for me I can't get it to download. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND http wkirkl...@rogers.com - From: "Phil Matheson" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 5:07 AM Subject: Re: KR>Questions > Have alook at the Dan Diehl site, he mate the wingskins and tri gear > http://www.diehlaero.com/landing.htm > > Phil Matheson > mathe...@dodo.com.au > > See our VW Engines and Home built web page at > http://www.vw-engines.com/ > www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Wood Question
Justin; Aircraft grade plywood has a high degree of quality control. The layers are very thin, they have no knots or internal faults or voids and the glues are high strength and waterproof. Thats what makes them so costly. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkl...@vianet.on.ca - Original Message - From: "Justin" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 8:28 PM Subject: KR>Wood Question I seen Birch Plywood at the Local wood store. Is this ok for airplanes? I know a fellow plane builder in my chapter who is building his plane with Birch but im not sure where he got it. I am no expert in anyway (obvously) on what is acceptable. Justin ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>KR
Tim; I have two venturi's on my 150. there is no suction guage. They drive the DGI and A/H. They are mounted on the side ust aft of the engine compartment. They are uncovered all year. Simple and reliable but don't count on them in ice. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND kirkl...@vianet.on.ca - Original Message - From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "Robert Tate Gann" ; "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: KR>KR > Hi everyone, > I have a new "Old" question , > Where on the fuselage would be the best location for a 4"(10" long)venturie > to run my DG? I know there was a recent discussion about it but I didn't > follow it that close. now that I have come in to a great deal on this > instrument I would like to use it.but I do not like the idea of using an > engine driven pump. > The simplest thing to do is the venturie,right? > Also does it need to have a shut off valve and suction gage? would covering > it on the ground be ok instead? > Thanks > Tim Bellville > KR2 > N7038V > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Re gussets
Only the gussets at the firewall are 2". The rest are 5/8. Only those at the top longeron are rt angle. The rest have one or two angles. compound. You will need a carpenters adjustable bevel (ab0ut $5.00). Sand or cut the angles and expect to make some mistakes especially on the compound angle ones. I have about 20 of the mistakes for sale cheap! lol :-) W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>vinylester resin
For vinyl ester resin try a marine supply or fiberglass store. vinyl ester must be "promoted" by the supplier when you buyy it. Once promoted it has a shelf life of about three months. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "ROBERT COOPER" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: Re: KR>vinylester resin Marks point about being ready to use it when you buy it is very important. I have bought 2 gallons and have used maybe 1/2 gal. total. Now I need more. I tried to revive the hardened resin by heating but it did not work. Does anyone know a source for vinylester resin other than A/C Spruce or a source to buy a quart or half gal. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2coo...@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. - Original Message - From: Mark Langford To: KR builders and pilots Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:52 AM Subject: Re: KR>Tanks Colin Rainey wrote: >> Can someone please tell me the actual product names/or part numbers to use from either Wicks, or AS&S so that I don't order the wrong stuff. I can't seem to find any product description that describes resin as vinylester, and have forgotten which foam is okay to use if necessary.<< Colin, In my slightly old AS&S catalog, it's just called "vinyl ester resin", and has a part number of 01-07350. You also need the catalyst, 01-07325. Last time I checked, Wicks didn't sell it. Make sure you're ready to use the stuff when you order it, because it has a finite shelf life once "promoted", which is how it'll be when you get it. You add "catalyst" to make it cure. Also check on availability, because last time I ordered it I had to wait about 3 or 4 months for it (which is one reason I'm still not real wild about AS&S). Properties and mixing instructions are listed in the AS&S catalog as well... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Subaru. Timing belt. Smokey
There is no timing belf on the ea 1800 subaru's W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "John and Janet Martindale" www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>wing profile
My original plans were for a KR2 then I bought tthe plans for the KR2S. When doing up the ribs for the outer wing I used the plan dimensions for the inner rib. I then found a data sheet for the rib profile. When I plotted that I found it similar but not identtical. With a little comparing I found that the cordline was off by abbout 1 degree on the inner rib. Anybody know which is the correct version? W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com
KR>Kr builder list
Bill Kirkland, Tillsonburg, ON 519 842 6475 W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:50 PM Subject: KR>Kr builder list Well, I was updating the list and accidentally erased it. I did manage to save a few names but most of them are gone. So if you will resend me your info I will get in on the new list if its not already there. Once again Im sorry. Thanks, Chris Theroux Gilbert, AZ ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>selling KR 2S Plans
Larry; You can sell them but if you built an airplane from them the new owner isn't entitled to build a second airplane. If you haven't built a KR from them the new owner can register with RR as a new builder and they will give him/her a new registration no. and any outstanding updates. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "larry flesner" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:16 AM Subject: KR>selling KR 2S Plans > > >Since this is going out to the entire net, > >is there anything legally or ethically wrong > >with me selling the one set of plans I bought from R.R. in 2000? > >Dean Allen > ++ > > I don't think you will have any problems in that area. The new > owner of the plans should contact Jeanette Rand and register > as the new owner for Jeanette's records as the ownership of > the plans allows you to build one KR aircraft from them. > > Larry Flesner > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>6" pneumatic tailwheel
For 5 or 6 " pneumatic wheels try the people who make scooters for the handicapped. No you can't have mine! W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "larry flesner" To: "KR builders and pilots" /instructions.html
KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations!
Will arrive Thur. about 4 or 5 in my trusty 1960 C-150. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "gpasc" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations! > To all of those who are coming to the Gathering: > > Please make sure you have made your room reservations by September 1. After > that date, the rooms we have blocked for the Gathering go back into their > inventory and are open to the public. Hotel information can be found at: > http://www.krgathering.org > > Please continue your RSVPs to the Roll Call. I have been keeping track of > them for a headcount to plan for food. > > 2003 KR Gathering focus will be: "Celebrating First Flights". Forums and > discussions will be focused on how to get you and your aircraft ready for > your first flight. > > If you have any questions or concerns, please email off the list. > > Linda Bennett > gp...@earthlink.net > 2003 KR Gathering > Secretary/Treasurer > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Cowling- and foam problem
Joe; I'm also doing my wings and have a similar problem. The panels scallop when sanded. bothe the main panel and the leading edge. I also did what ur doing. Cut 1" x1" strips of foam and glued them to the spars between the ribs and will glue the 1" panel to the ribs and the supports. The problem is that when you press on the sanding board the panel depresses and is level but it pops back up as soon as you take the sanding board off. The other solution is to build them the way Mark langford does. ie shape the inside of the panel then fiberglass it, then put the panel in place and sand the top side. see Marks web site. ps. my sanding board is a 7' length of rectangular plastic drain pipe covered with the sandpaper that comes in a roll. works fine. Let me know how you make out. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Joseph H Horton" To: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:18 PM Subject: Re: KR>Cowling- and foam problem > I have a KR-2S cowl from Rand - Robinson that I will probaly offer up for > sale in the next couple months. I'm in the process > of pulling a mold off it to make one out of carbon fiber. The fit and > finish is OK but I felt the weight was not acceptable with the corvair > under the hood. Yes it does fit around a corvair with plenty of room. > I'm having a little trouble shaping my wing foam. I followed the > instructions by installing 1" foam over 2" ribs in the sections between > spars. I had both wings sanded down to finial shape and came back the > next day and the foam panels between the ribs had bowed up. I sanded to > shape again which thins the foam panel down. Came back again the next day > with humps in the panels. I'm at the point now that I don't want to thin > the foam any more so I added bulk peices of foam scraps to the under side > insde the wing to stiffen the panels before I sand them again hoping that > it stabilizes the foam panels. I don't have the problem in the leading > edge panels or the trailing ege panel, but they are thicker- more like 1 > 1/2" to 2" thick. The other factor that may be at work is the hanger is > not insulated and drops to the upper 60's at night and some days into the > 90's. > Anyone else ever have anything like this happen to them? Or any > thoughts? > I can hardly wait to learn the sanding song. Would it sound ok with banjo > backup cause I cann't play the guitar? > Looking forward to meeting everyone in 6 days. > Thanks -- Joe Horton > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:42:55 EDT goreebeth...@aol.com writes: > > I do not personally know about a new engine cowling from R.R. I am > > thinking > > about buying one for my KR2S. I do have a cowling for a KR2. It > > has an air > > inlet at the bottom center location. I did split it top and bottom > > to widen it > > to make a cowling for my KR2S. It could be fiberglassed to > > reattach. If I > > can't find a new or used cowling, I will make you a good deal on the > > one that I > > have. Ray Goree ( goreebeth...@aol.com) > > ___ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Red Oak weather
Larry; Keep the wx rpts coming pse. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "larry flesner" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:00 PM Subject: KR>Red Oak weather > > > Red Oak travelers, > > I just checked the 7 day forcast for Red Oak on the NOAA site > and they are calling for "chance of showers and T-storms on > Wed and Thurs with partly cloudy on Friday. That "chance > of rain" is forcasted for southern Illinois on Friday so it looks > to be setting up for a repeat of last year for Mark Langford and > I as we dodged rainshowers for the first hour of the flight to > Red Oak in the Tripacer. Being an optimist I'm betting that if > there is a "chance" of rain there is also a chance it won't > rain. With a little luck we could have a GREAT weekend. > I'll probably be checking hourly starting Monday! :-) > > Larry Flesner > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Building a KR2
Mark; The instruments on my 150 are calibrated in Roman Numerals W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:35 PM Subject: Re: KR>Building a KR2 M://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Re Fly in
Fly In. Well I tried. Five hrs. flying got me to Galesburg Illinois but FSS and the radar plot advised of a slow moving cold front with thunderstorms embedded, from Canada down to Kansas . Wouldn't be able to get to Red Oak till Sun. and once they passed me I would be 3 or 4 more days before I could return eastward. RedOak forecast called for rain and thundershowers. I've done my share of scud running but Cbs. scare the hell out of me. Took the briefers advice and turned around and flew home while I still could. Ten hrs. on my 150. Now what do I do with 1/2 gal of maple syrup (Mark's) and a bottle of Ice Wine? May be my last attempt. :( W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Re Fly in
Orma; Thanks. Earlier does seem to be better. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: Re: KR>Re Fly in > In a message dated 9/13/2003 1:55:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > wkirkl...@rogers.com writes: > > > 3 or 4 more days > > I remember the rain in Kentucky that kept us hanging around of a few extra > days. This is why I mentioned that I hope the attendees will vote to hold the > fly in earlier in the season. Congrats on the supreme effort > Orma AKA AviationMech > KR2 N110LR > 1984 to Present > www.members.aol.com/aviationmech > also see me at > www.aviation-mechanics.com > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>(no subject)
Tim; I'm having thee same problem. So far just plan to do away with the wooden end ribs at the outer end once I have the main part of the wing completed. It certainly isn't structural. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Tim Brown" To: "KR Net" Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:53 PM Subject: KR>(no subject) > I am fairly certain that I am not the only one > building a 2S to install the 33 rib on the spars > before reading further (or remembering) to > install the foam extensions. The foam extensions > call for 2 layers of BID on both sides extended > 2" onto the wood spars. (plan sheet W2) > > I have removed the LE and TE of #33 so I can > follow the plans. Because the outer wing foam is > already in place between the spars and 5/8" > square spruce gussets are T-88d in place, I > really don't want to mess that up. Any thoughts > about glassing the foam per plans but then put a > fillet of thick micro or flox at the junction of > the foam to rib and carry the glass onto the rib? > > One other question/thought. The 29 1/8 rib seems > to be irrelevant. The plans show to radius the > LE of the wing tip(which you could not do as > shown on the plans with the rib installed as > shown) and also to round the tip outer edges > (again which you could not do with the ply rib > there). Are you all not using this rib or just > using a portion of it? Are you putting an > additional 3 or 4 inches of foam beyond the rib > and putting the radius and rounding here? > > Tim > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>OK, Daniel Heath.....you asked for it!!-Weather
Brian & Darren; Did you remember tho put the "y" in front of the Canadian airport identifier? Some airports need it and some don't. eg; YYZ for Toronto W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Brian Kraut" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: Re: KR>OK, Daniel Heath.you asked for it!!-Weather > I looked up a few airport identifiers and put them in and got a "Bad Airport" message on the phone so I would say they don't have Canada coverage yet. That brings up the one gripe I have on the system. You put in airport identifiers and it centers the screen on the selected airport which is great, but you can't scroll the picture to the sides so if you want the weather centered in the midddle of nowhere where you are flying and there are no airport around you are out of luck. You can, however, zoom out and get the big picture anywhere. > > > > I think I know the answer but can you see if it can access Ontario Canada > Weather > Sounds like a really cool modern-day instrument > Darren > > > -Original Message- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Brian Kraut > Sent: September 20, 2003 7:31 PM > To: KR builders and pilots > Subject: Re: KR>OK, Daniel Heath.you asked for it!!-Weather > > > I subscribed to the service about two months ago and I love it. The > images are great and very accurate. Their tech support is also > excellent. I had a brand new model of Samsung phone and they gave me a > free trial to see if it would work on my phone. When it didn't work > they modified their software in one day to work on my phone. > > > > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>paint/antennaes
Tim; In the KR your handheld would receive and Tx better than in a spam can because the canopy doesn't interfere with the radio waves. The silver paint would likely cause some interference. The ground makes the ant. work better thus building a ground plane and a proper ant. into the plane will greatly help Tx and Rx. The Ant. is the single most important part of a radio system. Amatuer radio operators have a whole class of people who specia`lize in working the whole world on three watts of power or less. They make up for the lack of power by using very large, very efficient antennaes. Mine used to be thirty feet in diameter and weigh 60 lbs. Pay attention to your antennae. VE3MZR W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: Re: KR>paint > Hi Mark, > Well I'd be lying if I said you didn't scare the hell out of me about using > silver paint.( I have two Gal.) > Do you see any problems using a handheld with it's own antenna not grounded > to the airframe?Would it be the same as in a Spam can? I don't plan on using > the Nav on it as this is a day VFR only plane(mine, not the design) > As far as the feather fill, I too am not trying to achieve perfection but > get close as I can within reason and feather fill is said to be great at > sanding and filling imperfections, But I still want the UV protection from > the smooth prime. > Thanks again, > Tim Bellville > KR2 N7038V > Original Message - > From: "Mark Langford" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 9:20 AM > Subject: Re: KR>paint > > > > Tim wrote: > > > > > I plan on using "Nevada silver" as a base and considering a checkerboard > > > pattern on the nose. > > > > The thing about silver is that is entirely composed of metallic aluminum > > chips. You might argue that it's very thin, and you'd be right, be so is > > aluminum foil, the stuff that people use to make ground planes out of. I > > was thinking about painting my plane the same color as my car, which has a > > little metallic in it. An electrical engineer buddy whose specialty is > > antennas modeled my vertical stab and antenna in some software that > analyzes > > antenna patterns at specific frequencies. While the signal improved > > slightly out front (for 123 kHz), it just about got killed completely from > > behind, thanks to the vertical stab and rudder behind it. That's bad > > enough, but then it dawned on me that the other half of antenna dipole is > > buried INSIDE the fuselage, and beneath the aft deck, so you might as well > > throw that leg away entirely! That's when I went to just plain red. > Based > > on his analysis, and the experience of others, silver paint would > seriously > > degrade antenna performance, which is why I'm probably going with a very > > light gray on top instead. My thinking is that white or light gray is > easy > > to see from above, and a dark color such as red is easy to see from below. > > If neither of those arguments hold water, then it's just because I like > red! > > > > > As A side note, do you see any problem using feather fill over > > smoothprime? > > > > I don't know about Feather Fill, but I sprayed an entire layer of urethane > > primer over Smooth Prime on my plane. Not that it proves anything, just > > that I don't think there'll be a problem with what I did. Can't say about > > Feather Fill, since it's polyester based. Wouldn't you want to follow > > Smooth Prime with the primer or sealer that's recommended for your top > coat? > > For example, DuPont's Ultimate 2K urethane primer is OK for use directly > > under DuPont's urethane colors, and it has a great build and is easy to > > sand. It's working for me. Feather Fill might be just fine, but I don't > > know. I guess I should let somebody that knows what they're talking about > > answer that one... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > ___ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Props
I'm also using a Subaru and am considering using twin carbs. Any suggestions as to size would be welcome. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Gavin Donohoe" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 8:06 PM Subject: KR>Props > Hi All, > Well I've decided on the Subaru engine at last and have one on the way to me with the H.O heads and cam!! Think I'll probably use a Sub 4 reduction drive and twin Bing Carbs, Can someone tell me the model number that I'm after with carbs? and I'll need advice on props, I have a friend who is able to make wooden props but he'll be retired before I'm finished my project, so I want him to make me one soon. Has anybody got experience on diameter and pitch for the Subaru with about 110Hp that can help me so I can get him started on it? I'd appreciate any advice on this. > My boat is almost finished, what a relief that'll be !!! > > Thanks > > Gavin > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 - Release Date: 09/10/2003 > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Painting tips
Yes: but if you thin it too much you will have to "repaint and thin no more" sorry I couldn't resist W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Ron Eason" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: Re: KR>Painting tips > Thin the paint with solvent. > > Krron > - Original Message - > From: "Oswaldo P. Silva Filho" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: KR>Painting tips > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "molan" > > To: "KR builders and pilots" > > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:56 PM > > Subject: Re: KR>Painting tips > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Bill, > > > > > > What is the best way to avoid "orange peel"? > > > > > > N64KR > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > > > da...@kr-builder.org > > > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR > > > > > > May be to use a thinner mixture in the spray gun... > > > > > > Paulo S. Molan > > > KR 2S PT ZPM > > > Brazil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > ___ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It hasa relative short shelf life.
When bbuying vinyl ester also get the styrene suppressant "BYK S-750" It reduces the styrene odour 70 -90%. Add between o.3 and 1%. You will have much better relations with your wife and your neighbours. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Wood, Sidney M." To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: RE: KR>And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It hasa relative short shelf life. > Vinyl-ester in the promated state as you would buy it from Wicks or A/C Spruce has an advertised shelf life of three months. I have stretched that to six months by keeping it in a refrigerator; your results may vary. Vinyl-ester resin puts out lots of styrene fumes when you add the catalyst - good way to turn your workshop/garage/house into a gas chamber. MEKP is the catalyst commonly used. This stuff looks like clear water, but will work like concentrated sulfuric acid if you get it in your eyes. The literature says "blindness in 4 seconds". (Who that was tested on is not stated.) > A fresh air breathing system is definitely recommended, along with eye and skin protection. > On the plus side: it's about half the price of epoxy, works the same, has about the same cured strength, but has been formulated to be gasoline proof for auto gas, 100 LL, gasohol, etc. > Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242 > > -Original Message- > From: Dan Heath [mailto:da...@alltel.net] > Sent: Thu 10/30/2003 3:35 PM > To: kr...@mylist.net > Cc: > Subject: KR>And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It has a relative short shelf life. > > > > RE > > And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It has a relative > > short shelf life. > > > > > > And only if you have to use it. It is not for normal consumption. Research > it well first. > > > > N64KR > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > da...@kr-builder.org > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >
KR>Scott Cable and Steve Jones Pictures
Phil; My understanding is that the X braces were put in because under some loads the tail was twisting and this was exacerbated when the fuselage was lengthened. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Philip Maley" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: RE: KR>Scott Cable and Steve Jones Pictures > Dan > > I noticed that Scott's fuselage > (http://kr-builder.org/ScottCable/index.html) has diagonal braces on the > top surface. My old KR2 plans do not show these diagonal members so I > assume the original design relies on the turtledeck to close the "box" > and provide torsional stiffness for the fuselage. > > Are the diagonal braces shown on the later KR2 or KR2S drawings? If they > are, can anyone advise if there was any incident that prompted RR to add > them? I'm sure they are a good idea but wondering if I need to add them > to my KR2. > > Thanks > Phil Maley > Perth Australia > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>Windshield - vacume forming.
Steve; Standing by! show us how. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:35 AM Subject: KR>Windshield - vacume forming. Below is a reply I sent to Dan Heath on a question of his. In thinking this over I have determined that this is the best way that I have of giving of my experience to the group that has and will help me over the next few years with things I have no clue about. I will make up a prototype in miniature of a female mold and framework and do this, taking pictures for a web site. Now true I have not gotten to this stage myself and have not made my own canopy yet. ( Yes I am sticking my neck on the block here but wait) This is the type of work I have been in for 17 years. If I can not figure out a reasonable way to do it easily - I would like to say we are all doomed to buy them. If all goes well, besides the web page I will bring the equipment to the next gathering in Mt. Vernon and do a demonstration if there is enough interest. Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmc...@maqs.net - Original Message - From: Steve and Lori McGee To: KRBuilder Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: Re: windshield Okay wait - I am a little confused in the writing. So when you had the plastic on the mold and let it drape, there was no visual deformations. ( but if I remember right you had problems with cracking later? I believe this is from the plastic being stressed at its earliest possible bending point and not truly bagging.) But now you are heating the plastic on flat sheet of steel and picking it up hot? This might be where the problem is or part of it. You may be stretching the plastic in ununiformed ways when handling. ( I can not believe this is what Todd is doing, this is his bread and butter, you think he is going to tell you exactly?) Now what I intend to do is vacume form the plastic. This can be done with a male or female mold but is easier at home with a female, as you would not have to suspend the mold in the air some how, but can build it to sit on the ground. For a look at the type of work I am in, go to this website and watch the steps to the forming at the lower right. Very sophisticated and not exactly what I am going to try as it is using a plug and forming a female upwards. http://thermoforms.com/forming.html Notice what these are made out of. http://thermoforms.com/gallery/mannequins.html Okay - visualize a rectangle picture frame large enough to hold the plastic and fit around your mold. Heat the plastic so it bags naturally from its own weight. If you want to use a MALE mold, you will bring the mold into the plastic from the top, trying not to stretch it much. ( but you do not want the bag so big, that it is hard to conform to the mold) The mold will have to have a frame built around it to match the picture frame, but about a 1/4 inch smaller all around. ( It should just touch the plastic and make a seal) Also a vacume box is built at the base of the mold to hook up a simple shop vac. ( not too powerful now) ( I know this sounds like a lot but is not!) You will need a small drill bit, 1/16 might work but 3/64 or even 1/32 would be better. Now you drill lots of holes in your mold into the vacume box and that is how the plastic is formed into or against the tool with the shop vac. Now hold on, what about the holes? will they suck plastic in and be visible? What if they are under the felt? Now we do not form clear parts where I work but I know that we heat up plastic and form to an aluminum mold and wood molds with no problems of the plastic going into the holes or even being visible in the part UNLESS the plastic is too hot and the vacume is too high! So I may try this without even using felt, or by putting the vacume holes where it will not matter if it does leave marks. Realistically this type of part should be done with a female mold. It would be SO much easier. In fact I should try and make one of these up in miniature, take pictures and let someone throw a web page together. I plan on being down your way in May. Maybe I can stop in. Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmc...@maqs.net ___ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>400 pound scales
Mark et all; A friend of mine befriended a mobile crew from the Ministry of highways dept. and when advised what he wanted volunteered to come over and bring their portable scales. accurate to the oz. Cost him a bottle of rye. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR>400 pound scales > NetHeads, > html
KR>medicals
Chuck; I think I hold the record. After my first heart attack I waited the required six months then did the treadmill test and echogardiogram (they want a 51% ejection fraction, nothing to do with sex ). You must be a non smoker and have your cholestoral within limits. Got my private licence back. When a clogged artery gave me angina I had an angioplasty with stint I lost my licence again. Six months and a bit I got it back again. When I had my second heart attack I figured my flying days were over. Six months later I again passed the tests and got my licence back. You can't start the tests until five months after the attack and it usually takes more than six months to get the results and all okayed. Mind you this is the Canadian scene but then they pretty much follow the US rules. Bon chance. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" To: "Ron Eason" ; "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 11:05 PM Subject: Re: KR>medicals > Ron & Ken, > Thanks for the feedback! This is encouraging. I think I'll continue working > on completing my KR in the hope of getting my medical back with no problem. > I'm scheduled for a stress test on Jan 9th, so should know more at that > time. Mine was not a violent attack, but heavy chest pain. I went in to > emergency and their tests showed I was having one. So they did the > angioplasty with dye, found the blocked artery then installed a coated stint > to correct the problem. I don't think it really did much damage. Three days > after getting home from the hospital I got a call from my employee laying me > off from my service technician job on Xerox copiers. I think they did me a > favor. I can now concentrate on getting better and put some quality time on > the KR2. > > Bud > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Eason" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 6:58 PM > Subject: KR>medicals > > > > FYI, I can second that. I had a 5 by-pass in 1995 and had a similar > > > > ___ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html
KR>subaru parts needed
Marty; I have a spare long block. what do you need. some parts I wish to retain as spares. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Marty Hammersmith" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 9:58 AM Subject: Re: KR>subaru parts needed I have EA-81 engine parts including a complete short block. I do not have heads. - Original Message - From: Dave Jeltema To: kr...@mylist.net Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 9:49 AM Subject: KR>subaru parts needed does anyone have any subaru ea81 conversion parts they want to sell? Thank You Dave Jeltema -- Get some great ideas here for your sweetheart on Valentine's Day - and beyond. ___ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>Sequential fuel injection
Alex; visited the megasquirt web site and you really made my day. I have a subaru ea 81 that is MPFI. The previous owner just cut all the wires about six inches from the computer. I will try it but I have no way of testing it short of putting it on the eengine. Most fuel injection systems cost mega bucks but megasquirt offers an inexpensive alternative if I need it. also a lot of good info on fuel injection systems on the site. really great! Just made my year on the net. ps. when I went to school they didn't even have transisters but I'm learning. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Alex Swavely" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 8:48 PM Subject: Re: KR>Sequential fuel injection > For anyone who is considering adding fuel injection, I'd suggest > checking out MegaSquirt (http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html) -- One > of the things that many people have tried with it that works fairly well > is using a small header tank in the engine compartment to pressurize the > fuel rails which is filled with a low-pressure pump. > (http://herning.crosswinds.net/projects/megasquirt/megasquirt.html - > look for "Surge Tank" about halfway down) > > Colin & Bev Rainey wrote: > > > Some carb pumps can be used for TBI or throttle body injection > > systems, since they typically use only about 10-15 psi fuel pressure. > > But in any injection system I have seen in autos, re-circulation back to > > the fuel tank is critical for proper system operation, and pump life. > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>Tri- gear conversion
Per; First Where are you in Mississauga? I'm in Tillsonburg, building a 2s. I have the DD tri gear but haven't yet got the nose gear. I've met both Chris and Owen also. The more changes you make the longer it takes to finish. Some changes may be worthwhile though. Give me a call some time 519 842-6475 W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com krnet.org/info.html
KR>KR-2 Engine Choices
Sidney; With respect to (wrst) HP VS SPEED the ratio is one of cubes. eg the cube root of 75 hp is 4.2. that of 100 hp is 4.62. The ratio is 1.1. ie if 75 hp gives 150 mph 100 hp gives 165 mph. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Wood, Sidney M." To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:28 PM Subject: KR>KR-2 Engine Choices KRnetters, I am building a KR-2, converted to tri-gear from retract conventional gear. Dan Diehl gear legs are installed. It is time for an engine. My first choice was a 75 hp 2180 vw direct drive with electronic ignition from Steve Bennett. Full-up price ready to bolt on, including freight and wood prop is about $7,000. Then I came across www.vw-engines.com that were offering three sizes of vw with fuel injection. What looked about right for my KR-2 was a 2000 cc 100+ hp model RG 2000 with a geared redrive, fuel injection and electronic ignition. This engine is based on a type 4 Porsche engine. The weight with all accessories less a wood prop is 221 lbs. To effectively use this 100+ hp I will need a 58 inch diameter by 60 inch pitch prop. That means I need to raise the standing height another 3 inches for proper ground clearance. That means I need to replace the Diehl gear with longer gear from www.vw-engines.com . Also I must use a new bed-mount for the new nose gear and redrive engine, rebuild the fuel system to accommodate low pressure and high pressure fuel pumps, an anti-surge tank, tank selector to route return fuel to the wing tank being used, and possibly another fuel gauge for the anti-surge tank. The cowl will require several bumps for the fuel rails. The price quote from Australia is $13,980 US plus freight and customs to add about $700. Another $2,000 is estimated to do the airframe mods. My first question: Is an extra 25 hp worth an extra $9,000? Second: Is an estimated extra 91 pounds empty weight on a KR-2 realistic? About 90 percent of this will be forward of the main spar and ahead of the firewall. Third: How will the taller gear effect ground handling and flight characteristics? I would appreciate your help on this engine choice matter. Regards, Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD sidney.w...@titan.com ___ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR>KR2 soob engine mount
Dave; Try Dave Johnson at "reductions" W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: Dave Jeltema To: kr...@mylist.net Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:07 AM Subject: KR>KR2 soob engine mount Does anyone have a subaru EA81 engine mount, or plans for one available for sale or is there anyone that makes them thank you everyone keep up the good work! Thank You Dave Jeltema -- Find things fast with the new MSN Toolbar - includes FREE pop-up blocking!
KR> Adieu
With considerable regret I have sold my KR-2s project. After 7 yrs of work I am less than half finished and I can not see getting it finished in the forseeable future. My disability has progressed to the point that I can not stand without support and I need two hands to hold a twelve pound weight. With luck I can hold on to me pilots licence for another couple of years so I can continue to fly me 150 for now. Many thanks to all those on the KR net. I would never have been able to keep at this project without all the encouragement and advice I have received thru the net and at the fly ins. Doug Rupert purchased my project and I sure hope he gets to finish it. Itt would be a real thrill to see it fly. May drop in from time to time. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com
KR> Adieu
Doug; Thanks. Hope to drop inm from time to time. ps. I found some more paper for you including the plans for the 2S wings. Will deliver same first time i'm over ur way. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Doug Rupert" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 6:46 PM Subject: RE: KR> Adieu > Bill you can rest assured that it now has my top priority, much to my wife's > chagrin. Also know that when completed you will be among the first to fly > her. > Doug > > -Original Message- > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf > Of bill kirkland > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 4:46 PM > To: KR builders and pilots > Subject: KR> Adieu > > With considerable regret I have sold my KR-2s project. After 7 yrs of work I > am less than half finished and I can not see getting it finished in the > forseeable future. My disability has progressed to the point that I can not > stand without support and I need two hands to hold a twelve pound weight. > With luck I can hold on to me pilots licence for another couple of years so > I can continue to fly me 150 for now. > > Doug Rupert purchased my project and I sure hope he gets to finish it. Itt > would be a real thrill to see it fly. > > May drop in from time to time. > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > wkirkl...@rogers.com > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
KR> The 'killer turn'
Ron; nothing works. We had one pilot land a Harvard wheels up. When asked why he hadn't heeded the towers warning to overshoot he replied " I couldn't hear you for the horn blaring in my ears" W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:08 PM Subject: RE: KR> The 'killer turn' > Maybe an A of A > indicator that has a warning device that is a big fist that comes > out of > the panel and smacks us between the eyes to get our attention is > the > answer. :-) > > Larry Flesner > ~~~` > > Perfect answer Larry; where can I get one? > > Ron Freiberger > mailto: rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com > > > > > > > > ___ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html