[lace] Re: Joining lace by overlapping (long)

2005-04-12 Thread Alice Howell
At 01:21 PM 4/12/2005, you wrote:
To Alice and all other spiders,
I have for a long time been contemplating doing  a piece of overlap lace but
to date have never tried it, are there any pitfalls that I need to look out
for, help gratefully accepted.
Sue M Harvey
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> Alice in Oregon -- where my first overlap lace completion turned out
> acceptible but not perfect.
Since this question was directed at me, I'll try to answer.  I just did my 
first piece of overlap joining.  I was shown this method some years ago in 
a Binche class.  Last year, I learned about a thesis that had been written 
on the subject, and got a copy from Theo Brejaart.

It is "Het Lassen en Aannaaien van Kant" by Louise Allis-Viddeleer, and 
connected some way with Kantcentrum.  Various methods of joining lace are 
listed, with detailed information on the sewn overlap.  Louise has done a 
very good job of diagramming how/where to join by overlapping in the 
different types of laces.  It is written in a language I don't know 
(Flemish? Dutch?) but does have a separate English translation.

I don't know how available this book is.  It is a good reference for a 
quild to have in their library, if you can find a copy.  I haven't asked 
Theo if he has any more.

Anyway -- joining by overlapping is used on a piece of lace that has to be 
connected with the beginning, like a hanky or doily edging, or to connect 
two pieces of lace yardage.  The idea is that the lace is made long enough 
that there is a good overlap.A double row of lace stitches is used 
across the lace width for sewing the top and bottom matching threads together.

In the old, old days there were specialists who just joined lace.  These 
days we usually have to do it ourselves.

This is the procedure as I understand it.
Make a couple extra repeats of the pattern -- at least 2 inches but 4 is 
better.  The width of the lace and length of a repeat will affect this.  A 
narrow overlap limits the sewing pathway choice.

A zigzag pathway is less noticeable than a straight pathway.  Open stitches 
are easier to sew together than clothstitch.  Ground stitches are easier 
than motif stitches.  Plan a pathway with the least disruption to the pattern.

 A thread the same color and kind, but of a smaller size is preferred for 
the sewing.  The smaller the thread, the less the extra thickness will 
show.  If you don't have a smaller matching thread, it might be possible to 
separate the plies of the thread.

Overlap the lace, matching thread to thread in the design.  Baste the two 
layers together, matching the pattern.  I used a colored thread on my white 
lace so I could be sure not to mix it up with my sewing thread.  Baste on 
both sides of the chosen pathway with a couple rows across the lace on each 
side.  You want the two layers of lace to look like one and not be able to 
slip.

Use a blunt pointed needle.  I began inside the lace, about a half inch 
away from the edge, and attached my thread with one half hitch, just to 
hold the end.

The sewing is done by overcasting the sewing thread over two matching 
threads in the lace sandwich.  Two rows side by side will be sewn, plus the 
connecting threads between the rows, and half of the connecting threads 
outside the two rows.  One row is done all across the width, and then the 
adjacent row is done back to the first side, then back along the first row 
to the starting point.

The sewing thread is overcast around the two matching threads.  There 
should be at least two wraps on each connecting bar.  There may need to be 
more than two wraps if you have very thin thread doing the wrapping.  The 
idea is to secure the two matching threads tightly together so they look 
like one. As a row of threads is secured, the side connecting threads are 
also wrapped, at least twice.  The connecting thread between the two chosen 
rows would be half done on the first pass, and then the other half on the 
return pass in the next row.  The connecting threads on the outside of the 
two rows would have two wraps only, not the entire bar.  Gimp threads 
caught in the two rows would also have to be wrapped.  Every portion of the 
stitches involved in the sewing would have at least two wraps.  At a stitch 
with a pinhole that is supposed to be visible, the sewing thread would have 
to wrap each portion of the stitch separately, going through the hole and 
around the side threads.  The hole should still be visible when finished.

When the entire two rows are sewn, there will have to be a half hitch 
around a thread to anchor it.

The basting threads would be removed, and the stitching checked carefully 
to see that all the threads within the two rows have been wrapped.  If the 
sewing is complete and secure, then the lace ends need to be **carefully** 
clipped just past the sewing point.  Clip one thread at a time and don't rush.

The overlapped and sewn lace section will be a bit thicker than the rest of 
the lace.  After al

[lace] The Duchess of Cornwall - lace

2005-04-12 Thread Janice Blair
Thank you for posting the CBS new link.  I enjoyed looking at the photos close 
up.  I did record the wedding and watched most of it.  I was disappointed not 
to see all the guests closer up as some of the hats looked very "interesting" 
indeed.  In the photo at the Guildhall, it looks to me like there is lace on 
the bottom of Camilla's dress hem.  The description in the article says:

 
What kind of lace is appliqued woven disks I wonder. :-)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/09/earlyshow/living/beauty/main686961.shtml
 
I saw that the flowers used came from the estates of Charles and Camilla but 
what surprised me was the use of a motor coach for the guests to the 
Guildhall!!  
Janice


Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA

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[lace] Re: Name (nevermind initials)

2005-04-12 Thread Lynn Carpenter
"Devon"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Incidentally, I am being besieged by requests to join the Lacemaking  
>Grannies of the Milky Way Galaxy, which just goes to show that with an
inviting  name 
>you don't need to have a group at all to make people want to  join.

I would love to join the Lacemaking Grannies of the Milky Way Galaxy, but
my only son is not yet six!

Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA
alwen at i2k dot com

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Re: [lace] Lace 2000 software patches

2005-04-12 Thread Ruth Budge
I might as well tell you all

You might not know, but I am the Australian distributor of Lace 2000.   A
few weeks ago, I received an email from England, telling me that Liz
Bartlett had closed her business, and would no longer be involved in selling
Lace 2000. If you try her website, you will find yourself automatically
diverted to a new I.L.Soft site, which is in the process of being built.
There are, as yet, no patches or demo version on the I.L.Soft site.

I believe that all these changes came up very suddenly, and I'm still not
sure of all the reasons and ramifications of the changes.Overseas
distributors can still get stock of Lace 2000 by contacting I.L.Soft.

If any of you need help, or patches, or information, feel free to contact me
privately, and I'll do my best to help you.
Ruth (Sydney, Australia)

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> Jean, Ruth
>
> Maybe the problem is already solved but, doesn't my page
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-NL.html
> give a lead?
>
> Jo Falkink
>
>
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Re: [lace] lace pattern question

2005-04-12 Thread Diane Williams
I would be very interested in this also!

Diane Williams
Galena, Illinois USA
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--- Maureen  Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To Alice and all other spiders,
> I have for a long time been contemplating doing  a
> piece of overlap lace but
> to date have never tried it, are there any pitfalls
> that I need to look out
> for, help gratefully accepted.
> Sue M Harvey
> Norfolk UK
> where I am sitting in an almost empty workroom
> because we are decorating it.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Alice Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 2:24 AM
> Subject: [lace] lace pattern question
> 
> 
> > Greetings,
> >
> > A box of lace books and papers were given to our
> lace guild from an
> > estate.  I had the assignment to go through it to
> see what was there.
> Part
> > of it had come originally from a second estate so
> it has remnants from two
> > lacemakers.
> >
> > One thing I turned up was the draft copies of two
> Torchon patterns.  One
> > seemed ready to test, and was signed and dated.
> >
> > The other one - that is the problem.  It is
> not signed so I'm not sure
> > which of the two lacemakers drafted it.  However
> it has a title.  This led
> > me to wonder if it was a pricking draft from a
> pattern in a book -- before
> > the days of the copy machine.  The title is
> "Emperor's Crown".  It is
> > Torchon, with the headside made of narrow
> scalloped fans assembled in
> > clusters to make a larger scallop.  There are four
> spiders per repeat with
> > a large center diamond of either roseground or
> honeycomb surrounded by a
> > diamond trail of either cloth stitch or half
> stitch.
> >
> > Does this sound like anything you have in an older
> book - probably in the
> > 70's or 80's?  Being titled like that made me
> think it could be a copy of
> > an existing pattern.
> >
> > With further study, it seems to have one section
> that is not drawn in a
> > do-able manner.  Some thread pairs go two
> directions at once. The pattern
> > needs minor tweaking to correct this error, which
> I think I can do without
> > changing the general composition.  This error
> encourages me to believe
> that
> > this might be an original design that was not
> finished.
> >
> > Any suggestion on how to find out about this
> pattern since the two
> possible
> > designers are deceased?
> >
> > Alice in Oregon -- where my first overlap lace
> completion turned out
> > acceptible but not perfect.
> >
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Re: [lace] lace pattern question

2005-04-12 Thread Maureen Harvey
To Alice and all other spiders,
I have for a long time been contemplating doing  a piece of overlap lace but
to date have never tried it, are there any pitfalls that I need to look out
for, help gratefully accepted.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK
where I am sitting in an almost empty workroom because we are decorating it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Alice Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 2:24 AM
Subject: [lace] lace pattern question


> Greetings,
>
> A box of lace books and papers were given to our lace guild from an
> estate.  I had the assignment to go through it to see what was there.
Part
> of it had come originally from a second estate so it has remnants from two
> lacemakers.
>
> One thing I turned up was the draft copies of two Torchon patterns.  One
> seemed ready to test, and was signed and dated.
>
> The other one - that is the problem.  It is not signed so I'm not sure
> which of the two lacemakers drafted it.  However it has a title.  This led
> me to wonder if it was a pricking draft from a pattern in a book -- before
> the days of the copy machine.  The title is "Emperor's Crown".  It is
> Torchon, with the headside made of narrow scalloped fans assembled in
> clusters to make a larger scallop.  There are four spiders per repeat with
> a large center diamond of either roseground or honeycomb surrounded by a
> diamond trail of either cloth stitch or half stitch.
>
> Does this sound like anything you have in an older book - probably in the
> 70's or 80's?  Being titled like that made me think it could be a copy of
> an existing pattern.
>
> With further study, it seems to have one section that is not drawn in a
> do-able manner.  Some thread pairs go two directions at once. The pattern
> needs minor tweaking to correct this error, which I think I can do without
> changing the general composition.  This error encourages me to believe
that
> this might be an original design that was not finished.
>
> Any suggestion on how to find out about this pattern since the two
possible
> designers are deceased?
>
> Alice in Oregon -- where my first overlap lace completion turned out
> acceptible but not perfect.
>
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Re: [lace] (lace)Fortune telling?!

2005-04-12 Thread TwoHappyBees
Hello all, 

I'm enjoying the snippets about strange things heard while 
demonstrating...  I believe I've posted this before but for those who may 
not have seen it, 
my favorite such experience was overhearing a woman who had been watching me 
ask her companion what I was doingto which the companion replied: 
"acupuncture".

Happy lacemaking, 
Vicki in Maryland where Spring is finally here and our street has a canopy of 
cherry blossoms

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Re: [lace] Lace books

2005-04-12 Thread Dorte Zielke
Mojn Irene
You should be able to learn Tonder from Karens book, she eksplains very
well, there is allso coloured diagrams to work from, it explains right from
bottom, how to make prickings etc. I like her books, read it first, maby a
coupel of times look in it, and get comfortabel with it, and then have a go,
the first one is easy.
And problems with the danish, you know where to ask fore help.
Dorte from a springy Denmark, spring since 28 of march, where I started to
work again.

www.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dorte_zielke/my_photos
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Dear Spiders,

My DH announced last night that he will be having a busy summer lawn
bowling, a lot of weekends will be taken up.  I said that a few lace books
could easily keep me company while he's not home.  It's all in the timing!!!

Can anyone recommend a Tønder technique book?  I noticed that Karen Trend
Nissen book 3 is Tønder lace, has anyone learnt from this one?  I'm not
ready to start Tønder but it's on the back burner and looking through a book
in advance works wonders when the time comes.

Greetings from Surrey, BC
Irene Whitham

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[lace] Lace books

2005-04-12 Thread Whitham
Dear Spiders,
My DH announced last night that he will be having a busy summer lawn 
bowling, a lot of weekends will be taken up.  I said that a few lace books 
could easily keep me company while he's not home.  It's all in the timing!!!

Can anyone recommend a Tønder technique book?  I noticed that Karen Trend 
Nissen book 3 is Tønder lace, has anyone learnt from this one?  I'm not 
ready to start Tønder but it's on the back burner and looking through a book 
in advance works wonders when the time comes.

Greetings from Surrey, BC
Irene Whitham 

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[lace] Duchesse pins

2005-04-12 Thread Micki
good afternoon

I hope one of you would be able to refer me to a supplier of Duchesse pins.  I
have tried Jo Firth, who says her suppliers tell her the pins are no longer
being made; and i have also tried Theo Brejaart in the Netherlands who is out
of stock too.

thank you

Micki
in Scotland

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RE: [lace] Re: Fwd: Discussion of IOLI name

2005-04-12 Thread Avital
Dear Spiders,

I would like to clarify a couple things. First, I'd like to gently remind people
that it is a breach of netiquette to post a private message without the sender's
permission. Even though I am gratified that some of you agree with me, I would
have liked to have been asked before having a private message posted to the
list.

Second, the ">"s don't make clear who said what. I wrote the second-last
paragraph below (the editing is a bit choppy but it's essentially what I said,
with names removed). The final paragraph is from Devon's original e-mail to me.

Best wishes,

Avital

> -Original Message-
> From: Aurelia Loveman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tue, April 12, 2005 3:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: lace@arachne.com
> Subject: [lace] Re: Fwd: Discussion of IOLI name
>
>
> Indeed, Avital is so right. Inevitably, there are topics that will
> engage some and bore others. (As, f.i., I thought the endless
> discussion about how many hitches might be put on to hold an
> intransigent thread was too boring for words, but my "Delete" button
> didn't break down; it worked). I think the matter of a name _is_
> important. And this is a more likely place to discuss the ins and
> outs of it, BEFORE we get to Denver.
>
> Aurelia
>
> I referred this to Avital and this is what she said.
> Devon
>
> interested in discussing IOLI's name,  will eventually get the hint.
> The list as a whole will probably decide whether to move on or
> not.discussion go its natural course.
>
>   I have received quite a few emails from people who seem to be
> enjoying the discussion and the fact that two people from overseas
> posted on it today suggests that it has some interest.
> >

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[lace] Vatican Lace/lace on TV

2005-04-12 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 4/12/2005 8:49:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have  been so frustrated recently by not being able to see the lace worn by 
the  cardinals in Rome 
No disrespect to the late Pope, but I share your frustration. 
How often do we have the opportunity to see such a parade of ecclesiastical  
lace? I myself have been scrutinizing the newspaper photos with a magnifying  
glass. When you see ecclesiastical lace, such as the excellent alb bottom on  
display in Baltimore now, you salivate about what must be hidden in the vaults 
 of the Vatican. I have always suspected that the Vatican must have world 
class  lace since it has such world class everything. 
 
Last year, Tess and I visited the Palisades Library near here, where one of  
the sample books of Marian Powys resides, since Marian herself resided in the  
community. The librarian had known Ms. Powys personally and was giving me a  
testimonial about her. She mentioned that Marian Powys had identified lace for 
 the Vatican! Another clue! I am sure that a thorough exploration of the 
Vatican  Lace would be a riveting as the Da Vinci Code. How I wish someone 
would  
undertake to write it. 
 
Devon
PS. If someone wants to pursue Cardinals and Bishops like the paparazzi, we  
could post an album of ecclesiastical lace in the arachne  webshots area. I 
can see it now. "Hey Cardinal", snap, snap,  snap.

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[lace] Re: Fwd: Discussion of IOLI name

2005-04-12 Thread Aurelia Loveman
Indeed, Avital is so right. Inevitably, there are topics that will 
engage some and bore others. (As, f.i., I thought the endless 
discussion about how many hitches might be put on to hold an 
intransigent thread was too boring for words, but my "Delete" button 
didn't break down; it worked). I think the matter of a name _is_ 
important. And this is a more likely place to discuss the ins and 
outs of it, BEFORE we get to Denver.

Aurelia
I referred this to Avital and this is what she said.
Devon
interested in discussing IOLI's name,  will eventually get the hint. 
The list as a whole will probably decide whether to move on or 
not.discussion go its natural course.

 I have received quite a few emails from people who seem to be 
enjoying the discussion and the fact that two people from overseas 
posted on it today suggests that it has some interest.

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[lace] lace on TV

2005-04-12 Thread LIZ GILCHRIST
Have we any TV news producers or camera people on Arachne?  How about a 
campaign for close ups of lace!   I have been so frustrated recently by not 
being able to see the lace worn by the cardinals in Rome and especially the 
lace on Camilla's hat.  Does anyone have any more information about it apart 
from the fact that it was French?
Liz Gilchrist
Oxford, UK

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2005-04-12 Thread margret holmes
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[lace] Thank you, Diana Smith!!

2005-04-12 Thread Sylvie Nguyen
Diana, 
Thank you for your kind words of clarification
regarding Charles and Camilla.  I never seem to get
the words out as well as some others, but you have
written what I agree with.

With the warmer weather in my part of the world, it is
now more appropriate to wear some lace jewelry. (The
items that I've made don't look particularly nice on
bulky wool sweaters)  I would be interested in
knowing/seeing more ideas of how people have made lace
jewelry.

Sylvie
in windy Cherry Valley, Illinois, USA



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[lace] The Duchess of Cornwall

2005-04-12 Thread Shirley
 For goodness' sake - criticise whatever you like about
anyone's morals, ethics etc - remembering that one should be careful incase
the criticism comes back to haunt the criticiser - but desist from bringing
looks into it!

My Mother always said " People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones ! !
Shirley in Corio Oz.

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[lace] Demonstrating

2005-04-12 Thread Christine Lardner
Further to Carole's comment about being asked to pay to demonstrate. I 
belong to the Isis Lacemakers, and we like to demonstrate lacemaking 
wherever we are asked. We occasionally get asked to pay for our tables, but 
when we explain that we do not sell, and in fact will be out of 
pocket(travelling etc), but do it because we enjoy it (and hope to educate 
the public, as well as making a few converts), then that is usually OK. 
Sometimes we are even provided with refreshments, and once we were offered 
travelling expanses (but turned them down as we were all fairly local).

Over the years we have heard many strange and amusing comments while 
demonstrating, but the most outrageous came at our Lace Fair, held last 
weekend. The entry fee was only £1.50, for which you got access to 20 top 
class suppliers, very reasonably priced home made cakes etc, and our usual 
mammoth tombola (prize every time!). Two lacemakers arrived and asked "As we 
only want to look at the stalls for an hour or so, do we still have to 
pay?" I was almost speechless, and could only reply "Yes, just like 
everyone else". They paid up, but left me wondering, if they have any idea 
of the work involved in organising such an event, the cost of hiring the 
hall etc. Not to mention the fact that a large proportion of any profits 
goes to charity!

Luckily, most lacemakers are friendly and grateful, and quick to say so, and 
make it all worth while.

Christine (Oxford, England)
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Re: [lace] The Duchess of Cornwall

2005-04-12 Thread Carol Adkinson
Diana and All,

I have made my protest on Arachne once before (only once?) about us women
falling low enough to judge people by their looks - or perceived lack of!
I think we have all been astounded by the male sex's ease of dismissing
women over 25 with epithets pertaining to animals, or to the dimensions of
said person, and I am getting incensed by the way we women can do it so
easily to our own.  For goodness' sake - criticise whatever you like about
anyone's morals, ethics etc - remembering that one should be careful incase
the criticism comes back to haunt the criticiser - but desist from bringing
looks into it!

Personally, I am glad that the Prince and Mrs Parker Bowles have married.
I thought she looked absolutely stunning in both the outfits, and I would
only presume that the photographs which were seen and prompted one
correspondent to liken the headgear to a bowl of spaghetti (or some such)
were not very good photographs at all.

As someone alse has also said, maybe if they had been allowed to marry 35
years ago, a lot of heartache would have been avoided.   I am sure they will
be happy from now on, and I certainly wish them all the happiness in the
world - I think they deserve it, after all this time.

Carol - in Suffolk UK.


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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:21 AM
Subject: [lace] The Duchess of Cornwall


> I do not subscribe to Lace Chat but there are some Brits on Arachne who
> object to the new Duchess of Cornwall being referred to as a breed of dog.
> I've not read in any newspapers any criticism of the outfits worn by
Camilla
> and in my personal opinion she looked beautiful.
> I hope they enjoy a long and happy life together and that people will just
> give Camilla a chance. Nothing can change the past we can only learn and
> move on 'what can't be cured must be endured' as the saying goes.
> Diana in Northamptonshire
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Re: [lace] Lace 2000 software patches

2005-04-12 Thread Ruth Budge
Jean, I'll reply to you privately - just give me half an hour!
Ruth (Sydney)
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Subject: [lace] Lace 2000 software patches


> I've just got a new computer, and installed Lace 2000 on it. When I tried
to
> download the patches to bring it up to the same version as was on my
> previous computer and correct any errors in the program, I found the Lace
> Studio website (I believe Liz Bartlett's site) seems to be no more - it
> redirects to the ILsoft site -  and the ILsoft site has only the home
page.
> There's nothing on any of the other linked pages except a page title.
Anyone
> know what's happening?
>
> Jean in Poole
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Re: [lace] Camilla's hat

2005-04-12 Thread Ann-Marie Lördal
Oooo thank you so much for that link. There was a lot of lace on that 
hat that I had not seen. It was so nice to look at all those pictures. I 
also liked the hat on  page 11. I do wish ladies would wear more hats. 
Men too, I remember my father always lifting his hat in a greeting when 
he met someone he knew.
Ann-Marie

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Noelene Lafferty skrev:
Intrigued by the reference to lace on Camilla's hat, I've been doing a
search around and come up with this:  It's on the cbs news site.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/09/earlyshow/living/beauty/main686961.shtml
then select "interactive - Charles and Camilla from the right hand column"
then ""What they Wore"
then Photo No. 4 - I think you might be surprised with the extent of lace on 
the hat!
Also Picture 10
Noelene in Cooma
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[lace] my opinion

2005-04-12 Thread Lee-Ann Withers
Hi all, 
 
having just read the last lace digest I recieved, I feel I have to say 
something...
 
Hasn't any one head of the DELETE key. If you are not interested in a topic 
Delete it..the name change topic did not interest me, so thats what i did 
!!!
How can you tell someone to get of the topic beacuse you are sick of it...it 
may interest some others.
 
Also I am no Royalist but name calling is a little disrespectful, and I am sure 
some of your mothers may have told you "If you can say anything nice, 
dont say it ! ""  as mine did.
 
If you dont like this message.DELETE it. It only takes 1 second of you time.
 
hope you all have a nice happy day.
 
 
 




Lee-Ann Withers
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for my photo album.
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[lace] Lace 2000 software patches

2005-04-12 Thread Jean Nathan
I've just got a new computer, and installed Lace 2000 on it. When I tried to 
download the patches to bring it up to the same version as was on my 
previous computer and correct any errors in the program, I found the Lace 
Studio website (I believe Liz Bartlett's site) seems to be no more - it 
redirects to the ILsoft site -  and the ILsoft site has only the home page. 
There's nothing on any of the other linked pages except a page title. Anyone 
know what's happening?

Jean in Poole 

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[lace] Camilla's hat

2005-04-12 Thread Noelene Lafferty
Intrigued by the reference to lace on Camilla's hat, I've been doing a
search around and come up with this:  It's on the cbs news site.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/09/earlyshow/living/beauty/main686961.shtml
then select "interactive - Charles and Camilla from the right hand column"
then ""What they Wore"
then Photo No. 4 - I think you might be surprised with the extent of lace on 
the hat!
Also Picture 10

Noelene in Cooma
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Re: [lace] The Duchess of Cornwall

2005-04-12 Thread Ann-Marie Lördal
I totally agree with you. I wish them a happy life and I feel sorry for 
Camilla to be called a breed of dog. You never know what other people 
call you when you not hear so I think people should be a bit careful 
with "names".
I watched the wedding and her clothes and "hats" were lovely, I just 
wished there had been a little lace added somewhere :-)
Ann-Marie, Sweden

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RE: [lace] The Duchess of Cornwall

2005-04-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
good morning Lace chatters

I feel that at last Prince Charles has married the woman he has always
loved.  If the powers that dictate what the royals can do and not do had
let him marry her in the first place 35 years ago there would not have been
any Princess Diana and much heartache would have been spared.  The same is
true for Princess Margaret - had she been allowed to marry the man she
loved perhaps she would have lead a much happier life and still be alive
today.

Prince Charles will now have a companion who will be at his side and back
him - you will see a more relaxed and confident man and this will enhance
the work that he is already doing for this Country.

Unfortunately with Princess Diana the media made it a beauty competition
between Prince Charles and her.  Princess Diana did not stop this so she
was never a real support as one would expect a spouse to be. The whole
episode should never have happened and then many lives that were made to
suffer would not.

The royal family do a great job and I would not like it for all the money
they may have.  

However, it is time to let Prince Charles and Duchess Camilla get on with
the job in hand.  It is about time that  all the sniping stopped.

Hope you all have a good lace making day.
Kind Regards

Rosemary 

 
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 08:21:49 +0100
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] The Duchess of Cornwall


I do not subscribe to Lace Chat but there are some Brits on Arachne who
object to the new Duchess of Cornwall being referred to as a breed of dog.
I've not read in any newspapers any criticism of the outfits worn by Camilla
and in my personal opinion she looked beautiful.
I hope they enjoy a long and happy life together and that people will just
give Camilla a chance. Nothing can change the past we can only learn and
move on 'what can't be cured must be endured' as the saying goes.
Diana in Northamptonshire

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[lace] The Duchess of Cornwall

2005-04-12 Thread Diana Smith
I do not subscribe to Lace Chat but there are some Brits on Arachne who
object to the new Duchess of Cornwall being referred to as a breed of dog.
I've not read in any newspapers any criticism of the outfits worn by Camilla
and in my personal opinion she looked beautiful.
I hope they enjoy a long and happy life together and that people will just
give Camilla a chance. Nothing can change the past we can only learn and
move on 'what can't be cured must be endured' as the saying goes.
Diana in Northamptonshire

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