RE: iMAC and Linux
I'm not sure why SMB is any more "bogus" than NFS, since both have security reputations that should make their respective creators wince. Regardless, SMB is the lowest common denominator. Everything (even NetWare, for crying out loud) now speaks SMB. -Original Message- From: Bill Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: iMAC and Linux On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:32:14AM -0500, M. Peck Dickens wrote: >On Monday 11 March 2002 12:22, you wrote to me: >> It should come with Mac OS X, which handles smb by default. DHCP and >> other non-MS network stuff work fine. > >Well, it ought'a... OS X is BSD Unix that's been tweaked. Given that, why would one want to use bogus file sharing like SMB when NFS is available? Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``the purpose of government is to reign in the rights of the people'' -Bill Clinton during an interview on MTV in 1993 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: iMAC and Linux
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 21:46:17 -0800 Bill Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given that, why would one want to use bogus file sharing like SMB > when NFS is available? Standard answer: He/She/They have Wintindo Playstations they want to network. Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: iMAC and Linux
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:32:14AM -0500, M. Peck Dickens wrote: >On Monday 11 March 2002 12:22, you wrote to me: >> It should come with Mac OS X, which handles smb by default. DHCP and other >> non-MS network stuff work fine. > >Well, it ought'a... OS X is BSD Unix that's been tweaked. Given that, why would one want to use bogus file sharing like SMB when NFS is available? Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``the purpose of government is to reign in the rights of the people'' -Bill Clinton during an interview on MTV in 1993 ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: iMAC and Linux
On Monday 11 March 2002 12:22, you wrote to me: > It should come with Mac OS X, which handles smb by default. DHCP and other > non-MS network stuff work fine. Well, it ought'a... OS X is BSD Unix that's been tweaked. Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: iMAC and Linux
It should come with Mac OS X, which handles smb by default. DHCP and other non-MS network stuff work fine. -Original Message- From: Joel Hammer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: iMAC and Linux Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers (dhcp,samba, gateway)? My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This might be a nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux since it won't run AOL. However, I would like to dump one more windows box in my house. (They all seem to be dying natural deaths.) Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
On Sunday 10 March 2002 05:03 pm, Net Llama wrote: > > = > > You're married, llama. Wanna reconsider that question? ;o) > > Point taken. > > In all fairness, it did take me nearly 3 years to convince my wife to > use Linux for day-to-day activities (internet stuff primarily). Of > course part of the campaign was that i simply refused to support windoze > any longer. When various things (like dialing into the ISP) suddenly > stopped working in windoze, she had no choice but to turn to the light > side of the force. > I must have horse shoes somewhere I'm sure. I can still recall (COL 1.3) one day I had just gotten home from work only to be confronted by a dipleased wife asking me to remove "that crap" from her computer. I asked her what it was that she didn't like about Linux and she replied no not the linux! I'm talking about that Micro-sh*t crap. Since then there is only COL on it. This weekend I did the upgrade (COL 2.4 -> COL 3.1.1) It all went smoothly. On reboot the mouse was acting a bit strangely. I check the X config file and the upgrad had set it as a net-mouse. Changed that tp IMP/S and all is well again. I'm still waiting for the day when I can finally do the same to this box and become totally M$-free:) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
"M. Peck Dickens" wrote: > > On Sunday 10 March 2002 17:55, you wrote to me: > > > I also dont' quite understand this. What is so compelling about AOL > > email that makes it worthwhile to spend almost $350/year? > > It's a case of the King's new (invisible) clothes along with a large dose > of FUD. And if we believe the commercials...we'll all get a warm fuzzy feeling when one of our "Buddies" sends us an email...we'll never know what to exepect..."it's just like Christmas everyday". -- Linux SxS Mirror [http://sxs.homeip.net/] ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
On Sunday 10 March 2002 17:55, you wrote to me: > I also dont' quite understand this. What is so compelling about AOL > email that makes it worthwhile to spend almost $350/year? It's a case of the King's new (invisible) clothes along with a large dose of FUD. Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
On Sunday 10 March 2002 03:17 pm,Tyler Regas wrote: > I think, Joel, that if you > were to present a clearly laid out plan of action that helps her > migrate she will listen. And a dozen roses might help, too ;-) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
What in the heck is email loops. Fruit loops or some thing? Or is it one of those thingys that just you and your friends do hicky. Sounds like it is time for some one to see the light here. I knoq my wife has screwed the pouch enough here, I tell her what to do, she listens if she has a mind to, then when it is all foobar, honey I can't X. I have threatened Linux, She says no. But when that all there is. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
That is more or less where I am. But, my wife is persistent. She is also working now and so its just "her" money she's spending. Joel > > In all fairness, it did take me nearly 3 years to convince my wife to > use Linux for day-to-day activities (internet stuff primarily). Of > course part of the campaign was that i simply refused to support windoze > any longer. When various things (like dialing into the ISP) suddenly > stopped working in windoze, she had no choice but to turn to the light ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 17:03:59 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled impishly: >Point taken. > >In all fairness, it did take me nearly 3 years to convince my wife to >use Linux for day-to-day activities (internet stuff primarily). Of >course part of the campaign was that i simply refused to support windoze >any longer. When various things (like dialing into the ISP) suddenly >stopped working in windoze, she had no choice but to turn to the light >side of the force. You prescribe strong medicine, llmama! ...and you're vicious ;-) Mike -- "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot." -Groucho Marx ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
--- Michael Scottaline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:32:57 -0800 (PST) > Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: > > >I still haven't heard why your wife needs to use AOL email, other > than > >'because'. > = > You're married, llama. Wanna reconsider that question? ;o) Point taken. In all fairness, it did take me nearly 3 years to convince my wife to use Linux for day-to-day activities (internet stuff primarily). Of course part of the campaign was that i simply refused to support windoze any longer. When various things (like dialing into the ISP) suddenly stopped working in windoze, she had no choice but to turn to the light side of the force. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
Ahhh...that's an interesting little marketing hook. AOL-only mailing lists. Well, its your money. --- Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, according to her it is an issue of email loops, like this one. > She > claims she has to be on AOL to be part of some email loops, which she > does > not want to give up. > Come to think of it, I have never actually tested this out. Maybe > there is > some way to access those email loops on aol without being on aol. > Hmmm > Joel > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 04:32:57PM -0800, Net Llama wrote: > > I still haven't heard why your wife needs to use AOL email, other > than > > 'because'. > > > > --- Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In part it can. But, it is not nearly as convenient as using AOL > > > itself. I > > > have tried this, BTW, in my attempt to get her off windows. It was > > > rejected. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:32:57 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: >I still haven't heard why your wife needs to use AOL email, other than >'because'. = You're married, llama. Wanna reconsider that question? ;o) Mike -- "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot." -Groucho Marx ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:16:06 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: >In part it can. But, it is not nearly as convenient as using AOL itself. >I have tried this, BTW, in my attempt to get her off windows. It was >rejected. === I guess dual booting is the only way to go then Been there; done that (and STILL *doing that* ;o) ) Mike -- "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot." -Groucho Marx ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
Well, according to her it is an issue of email loops, like this one. She claims she has to be on AOL to be part of some email loops, which she does not want to give up. Come to think of it, I have never actually tested this out. Maybe there is some way to access those email loops on aol without being on aol. Hmmm Joel On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 04:32:57PM -0800, Net Llama wrote: > I still haven't heard why your wife needs to use AOL email, other than > 'because'. > > --- Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In part it can. But, it is not nearly as convenient as using AOL > > itself. I > > have tried this, BTW, in my attempt to get her off windows. It was > > rejected. > > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
I still haven't heard why your wife needs to use AOL email, other than 'because'. --- Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In part it can. But, it is not nearly as convenient as using AOL > itself. I > have tried this, BTW, in my attempt to get her off windows. It was > rejected. > > Joel > > > > > >There is no way my wife will dump her AOL email. > > >Joel > > = > > Can't AOL e-mail be managed via a web based solution??? __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
In part it can. But, it is not nearly as convenient as using AOL itself. I have tried this, BTW, in my attempt to get her off windows. It was rejected. Joel > > >There is no way my wife will dump her AOL email. > >Joel > = > Can't AOL e-mail be managed via a web based solution??? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 18:26:47 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled in frustration: >There is no way my wife will dump her AOL email. >Joel = Can't AOL e-mail be managed via a web based solution??? MikeS -- "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot." -Groucho Marx ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
Uninstalling AOL from the computer will do the trick. --- Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no way my wife will dump her AOL email. > Joel > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 02:34:23PM -0800, Tony Alfrey wrote: > > On Sunday 10 March 2002 11:28 am,Joel Hammer wrote: > > > Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers > > > (dhcp,samba, gateway)? > > > > > > My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This might > be a > > > nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux since it won't > run > > > AOL. > > > > I don't want to start a war here, but isn't that a good reason to > dump > > AOL? I did exactly because of this. > > Just my 2 cents ;-) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
There is no way my wife will dump her AOL email. Joel On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 02:34:23PM -0800, Tony Alfrey wrote: > On Sunday 10 March 2002 11:28 am,Joel Hammer wrote: > > Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers > > (dhcp,samba, gateway)? > > > > My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This might be a > > nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux since it won't run > > AOL. > > I don't want to start a war here, but isn't that a good reason to dump > AOL? I did exactly because of this. > Just my 2 cents ;-) > > > > -- > Tony Alfrey > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "I'd rather be sailing" > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: Re: iMAC and Linux
I think the problem comes down to who she corresponds to and not the actual mail agent. Through my years of training people to use computers the vast majority has been loathe to migrate to another mail environment, and 90% of them say its because they don't want to lose all of the people they communicate with. Of course, we know that simple diligence in notifying correspondents of the new address and maintainng both addresses for a bit easily, if not conveniently, gets over that impasse. I think, Joel, that if you were to present a clearly laid out plan of action that helps her migrate she will listen. Even suggest that she look at a few applications and try using the one that she likes the best for a bit with a test account. I know that sounds silly, to just pick the one that looks nice, but if she finds the interface appealing, she will be more likely to try it. >From the 6th Chakra of Tyler Regas :) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Net Llama > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 3:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Re: iMAC and Linux > > > --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 10 March 2002 11:28 am,Joel Hammer wrote: > > > Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers > > > (dhcp,samba, gateway)? > > > > > > My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. > This might be > > a > > > nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux since > it won't run > > > AOL. > > > > I don't want to start a war here, but isn't that a good > reason to dump > > > > AOL? I did exactly because of this. > > I also dont' quite understand this. What is so compelling > about AOL email that makes it worthwhile to spend almost $350/year? > > I spend $0/year for my email, and if my wife gave me some > non-negotiable argument, i'd still hold my ground. Your home > isn't a business, you're not going to lose productivity hours > (and dollars) getting them to learn an alternative. If email > is that important, then she could learn to use > a free alternative fast enough. Perhaps she needs a 12 step > plan? ;) > > = > Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com > > . > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: Re: iMAC and Linux
--- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 10 March 2002 11:28 am,Joel Hammer wrote: > > Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers > > (dhcp,samba, gateway)? > > > > My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This might be > a > > nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux since it won't run > > AOL. > > I don't want to start a war here, but isn't that a good reason to dump > > AOL? I did exactly because of this. I also dont' quite understand this. What is so compelling about AOL email that makes it worthwhile to spend almost $350/year? I spend $0/year for my email, and if my wife gave me some non-negotiable argument, i'd still hold my ground. Your home isn't a business, you're not going to lose productivity hours (and dollars) getting them to learn an alternative. If email is that important, then she could learn to use a free alternative fast enough. Perhaps she needs a 12 step plan? ;) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: iMAC and Linux
On Sunday 10 March 2002 11:28 am,Joel Hammer wrote: > Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers > (dhcp,samba, gateway)? > > My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This might be a > nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux since it won't run > AOL. I don't want to start a war here, but isn't that a good reason to dump AOL? I did exactly because of this. Just my 2 cents ;-) -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I'd rather be sailing" ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: iMAC and Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have an iMac 333 running MacOS 8.6. Altought I have used Netatalk+asun (AppleTalk) and Samba (using DAVE as a client), I've decided to use DAVE. It simplifies administration (the other PCs are running Win98 here). If you don't want to spend the money (and you don't have Windoze clients or don't mind the extra admin), netatalk is the way to go. I've used DAVE at a client's office (4 Macs and 2 Win clients). The printers were shared using netatalk. It easier and direct. With DAVE you have to setup the printer in one Mac and then the Mac publishes it using appletalk. On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:28:33 -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: >Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers (dhcp,samba, >gateway)? > >My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This might be a >nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux since it won't run AOL. >However, I would like to dump one more windows box in my house. (They all >seem to be dying natural deaths.) > >Joel > >___ >Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users >Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPIvOnBRcJRaVKt4XEQJT7QCgkf19AptWzznA4oNulb9iCUnz/5AAoIjV ME6MnrMZB6LmdiyPoKw5zovp =RSBe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: iMAC and Linux
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Joel Hammer wrote: > Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers (dhcp,samba, > gateway)? > > My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This might be a > nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux since it won't run AOL. > However, I would like to dump one more windows box in my house. (They all > seem to be dying natural deaths.) > Several Macs here, running MacOS and/or Linux. No problems with dhcp and Linux gateway. You can even netboot the things. For file/print serving, netatalk is the Mac equivalent of samba. Stew Benedict ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: iMAC and Linux
My wife has to have aol email. Non-negotiable. I have failed to get netscape 6.2 in linux to work with aol email. If I want to stay with her current wintel computer, win4lin is an alternative. I would like to install a new version of linux (self configuring and all that) and have her run win4lin off the server. However, I have having some issues with running win4lin (and other things, too.) as a remote X session. I suppose I could install linux, then win4lin, then windows on her computer, but that all seems like way too much work. Also, I would feel duty bound to buy another copy of win4lin. The lowest ball arrangement would be to set up her wintel box as a diskless client. However, that could be a configuration headache. I would likely break my current ltsp server in the process. But, I guess the itch I really need to scratch is getting one of those fancy iMACS. I really don't need a very sophisticated file sharing arrangement between the iMAC and the linux server. I just want to be able to backup up her hard drive and store mp3's on a server. So, if the iMAC can talk to the linux server, whether with AppleTalk or samba, that would be fine with me. I don't know much about MOL. If is like win4lin, I wouldn't be too enthused about it because win4lin, while doing everything as advertised (It really does work.) can't do everything you can do in a native windows session, like play games. Joel On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 12:23:23PM -0800, Net Llama wrote: > Well, the thing is, while Macs can do SAMBA, they'll natively do > AppleTalk. Linux will do both, although SMB support is far more mature. > Have you considered perhaps installing something like Yellow Dog Linux > on the Mac, and then running MOL (Mac on Linux), which is basically > Win4Lin for Macs, except its open source? > > Also, what exactly in AOL does your wife want/need? ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: iMAC and Linux
Well, the thing is, while Macs can do SAMBA, they'll natively do AppleTalk. Linux will do both, although SMB support is far more mature. Have you considered perhaps installing something like Yellow Dog Linux on the Mac, and then running MOL (Mac on Linux), which is basically Win4Lin for Macs, except its open source? Also, what exactly in AOL does your wife want/need? --- Tyler Regas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only solutions I know of are DAVE from Thursby Software > (www.thursby.com), PC MacLAN from Miramar > (http://www.pcmaclan.com/miramarweb.nsf/web/prod_nav_pcm_pcmproductsinde > x), and Service for Macintosh in Windows NT/2000 Server. You can offer > internet access from Linux machines to Macs by simply using the > appropriate Ethernet services (DHCP, static IPs) but file sharing is > outside of my knowledge. > > HTH > > Tyler > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joel Hammer > > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:29 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: iMAC and Linux > > > > > > Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers > > (dhcp,samba, gateway)? > > > > My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This > > might be a nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux > > since it won't run AOL. However, I would like to dump one > > more windows box in my house. (They all seem to be dying > > natural deaths.) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
RE: iMAC and Linux
The only solutions I know of are DAVE from Thursby Software (www.thursby.com), PC MacLAN from Miramar (http://www.pcmaclan.com/miramarweb.nsf/web/prod_nav_pcm_pcmproductsinde x), and Service for Macintosh in Windows NT/2000 Server. You can offer internet access from Linux machines to Macs by simply using the appropriate Ethernet services (DHCP, static IPs) but file sharing is outside of my knowledge. HTH Tyler > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joel Hammer > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: iMAC and Linux > > > Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers > (dhcp,samba, gateway)? > > My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This > might be a nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux > since it won't run AOL. However, I would like to dump one > more windows box in my house. (They all seem to be dying > natural deaths.) > > Joel > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list - > http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-> users > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are > located at the above URL. > > ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
iMAC and Linux
Is anyone using the new iMAC on a network with linux servers (dhcp,samba, gateway)? My wife's win98 box is dying, along with the monitor. This might be a nice time to buy an apple. She will not use linux since it won't run AOL. However, I would like to dump one more windows box in my house. (They all seem to be dying natural deaths.) Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
