New To The List

[Daniel Rowe]

Hi all.

I'm sereously considering switching over to the mac and also will be 
getting an iPhone when it becomes available on my network.  I've been 
following Apple's progress with voice-over since the beta of Tiger.  
Apple are an amazing company for putting all this effort into making 
their products so accessible.  admittedly I believe the prices are a bit 
steep, but you certainly get what you pay for I think.

I'll be getting an iMac as I'll want to use a better soundcard for music 
production.  I will also run windows on it so I can use sonar, or I will 
just use my existing windows machine for audio work. I haven't decided 
yet, although having everything on one machine will mean less clutter.
I love the wireless keyboard, but I wish it had a number pad, so I'll 
order the wired one instead.  Also, having to use the fn key plus the 
arrow keys to act as the six pack would frustrate me.

I have a couple of questions.  I had the chance to try the new macbook 
with the multi-touch trackpad over the weekend and was very impressed.  
After having getting used to it, I was able to read webpages in safari 
fairly well using the flick method.  does any of you know if that 
technology will find it's way onto the iMac either through use of a 
touchscreen or by a trackpad integrated into the keyboard?

Secondly, how accessible is garage band or logic with voice-over?  Or am 
I best sticking with sonar for the time being?

Thanks in advance,
Dannie

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New to the List

[Scott Duck]

Hi everyone,

 

I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for
about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS
and Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put
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Mac users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I
will be a Mac user too.

 

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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new to the list

[Carlos Taylor]

Hi all.  My name is Carlos Taylor and I'm new to the list.  I thought
I would join the list to pick up any tips and tricks of VoiceOver and
the Mac.  However, I'm not entirely new to the Mac.  I'm composing
this message using a 2008 iMac at work.  In fact, I was in the
AppleSeed program beta testing os 10.4 tiger, so I got to see
VoiceOver in its infancy.  It has really grown and matured since then.
 I even purchased a Mac Mini, but it was soon made obsolete when Apple
switched to Intel processors.  I'm planning to purchase a new Mac Mini
later this year.  Until then, I'll keep using Macs at work whenever
possible.  I'm also waiting to receive a 13-inch MacBook air to
replace a 6-year-old Windows XP based laptop for work.  I oversee
technology for students and faculty with disabilities at a mid-sized
public university.  I work with faculty and students using both Macs
and PCs, so I am trying to keep myself up-to-date in the Apple world.
I have been a long-time user of Window-Eyes and more recently, NVDA.
I've been an iPhone user since the summer of 2009, when Apple first
included VoiceOver on the iOS platform.  Going back even further, one
of  the first computers I used as a child was an apple 2e at school.
At home, we first had a commodor 64 then later got an apple 2gs.  So
that's a little about me.  I look forward to learning what I can from
the list.

Carlos Taylor

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new to the list

[Donald Goosens]

Î   My name is Donald and I am new to the list.  I bought a used 
MackBook a couple of years ago and have read some books from BookShare.  I have 
a wireless keyboard that I assume came with the computer. It has no numpad.  It 
does have command, option, control and function key.  Where can I find a list 
of key commands that will help me with this keyboard?  Also, Can a totally 
blind person effectively use the drag and drop feature with VoiceOver?  I know 
I have so many questions and I want to thank all of you in advance for your help

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New to the List

[Erik Heil]

Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning 
curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which 
probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.

1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.

2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 

Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
questions. 

Erik

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New to the list

[Michelle's Home emails]

Hi there,

 

Michelle Stevens here,

 

I am a new Mac Book Air user.  I have had my Mac  for 6 months and love it.
One of the things I love about Apple is that because I am Blind I use
VoiceOver and a Braille display connected to my mac. It is very friendly
with adapted technology.  I unpacked it turned it on, a friend helped me to
get started and away I went.   

 

Ok I have had a hell of a learning curb and am still learning.  

 

I look forward learning from you all.

 

Kind regards

Michelle Stevens

 

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Re: New To The List

[James & Nash]

Hi Dan,

Bet you don't remeber me smile.

Anyway, a lot of folks on here seem to be using Amadeus Pro.And yes, I agree 
with you, Appel's prices are prohibitive.

Take care
- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Rowe" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:50 PM
Subject: New To The List


>
> Hi all.
>
> I'm sereously considering switching over to the mac and also will be
> getting an iPhone when it becomes available on my network.  I've been
> following Apple's progress with voice-over since the beta of Tiger.
> Apple are an amazing company for putting all this effort into making
> their products so accessible.  admittedly I believe the prices are a bit
> steep, but you certainly get what you pay for I think.
>
> I'll be getting an iMac as I'll want to use a better soundcard for music
> production.  I will also run windows on it so I can use sonar, or I will
> just use my existing windows machine for audio work. I haven't decided
> yet, although having everything on one machine will mean less clutter.
> I love the wireless keyboard, but I wish it had a number pad, so I'll
> order the wired one instead.  Also, having to use the fn key plus the
> arrow keys to act as the six pack would frustrate me.
>
> I have a couple of questions.  I had the chance to try the new macbook
> with the multi-touch trackpad over the weekend and was very impressed.
> After having getting used to it, I was able to read webpages in safari
> fairly well using the flick method.  does any of you know if that
> technology will find it's way onto the iMac either through use of a
> touchscreen or by a trackpad integrated into the keyboard?
>
> Secondly, how accessible is garage band or logic with voice-over?  Or am
> I best sticking with sonar for the time being?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Dannie
>
> > 


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Re: New To The List

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

I definitely don't think Apple's prices are that bed. Hell, you have  
Windows laptops that cost that much, and that's basic. At least, the  
prices in my country are stupidly high for a Windows computer. And  
then, of course, I have to pay even more money to get a screen reader  
if I don't already have one. Which is about $1000 for a JAWS pro, 250  
or so bucks for the SMA update. I think Apple's prices are fairly  
reasonable when you consider that part. Not to mention you  need an  
SMA every time a new JAWS version is released if your current  
authorization doesn't cover the newest version. Besides, which Windows  
computer can you actually install literally from scratch?

Just for those reasons alone, it's worth it. I realize I'm only  
picking on JAWS, but I won't even mention Window-Eyes apparently  
charging $39.95 for a trial license. It might not seem like much, but  
I still think that's outrageous, considering it's a trial, and you  
might not even like the application.

I've said my piece about pricing. :). To me, that's worth a price that  
even a Windows laptop can beat in my country. Granted, you can use  
NVDA on Windows, but it might not be as advanced as the commercially  
available screen readers. In my opinion, VoiceOver already surpassed  
those by a long-shot. That's just my opinion, though. And that is  
technically a free solution, since you are not required to pay for  
SMAs or any of that annoying stuff. I personally think Apple should be  
commended for their commitment to accessibility to a system from the  
ground up, no additional software required. No Video Intercept issues  
*cough*. Concerning that last comment, I don't want to slam Windows.  
Just thought I'd mention that as well, since I'm sure I'm not the only  
one who has had issues with it.

Good night everybody.

Regards,
Nic
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On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:16 PM, James & Nash wrote:

>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Bet you don't remeber me smile.
>
> Anyway, a lot of folks on here seem to be using Amadeus Pro.And yes,  
> I agree
> with you, Appel's prices are prohibitive.
>
> Take care
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daniel Rowe" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:50 PM
> Subject: New To The List
>
>
>>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I'm sereously considering switching over to the mac and also will be
>> getting an iPhone when it becomes available on my network.  I've been
>> following Apple's progress with voice-over since the beta of Tiger.
>> Apple are an amazing company for putting all this effort into making
>> their products so accessible.  admittedly I believe the prices are  
>> a bit
>> steep, but you certainly get what you pay for I think.
>>
>> I'll be getting an iMac as I'll want to use a better soundcard for  
>> music
>> production.  I will also run windows on it so I can use sonar, or I  
>> will
>> just use my existing windows machine for audio work. I haven't  
>> decided
>> yet, although having everything on one machine will mean less  
>> clutter.
>> I love the wireless keyboard, but I wish it had a number pad, so I'll
>> order the wired one instead.  Also, having to use the fn key plus the
>> arrow keys to act as the six pack would frustrate me.
>>
>> I have a couple of questions.  I had the chance to try the new  
>> macbook
>> with the multi-touch trackpad over the weekend and was very  
>> impressed.
>> After having getting used to it, I was able to read webpages in  
>> safari
>> fairly well using the flick method.  does any of you know if that
>> technology will find it's way onto the iMac either through use of a
>> touchscreen or by a trackpad integrated into the keyboard?
>>
>> Secondly, how accessible is garage band or logic with voice-over?   
>> Or am
>> I best sticking with sonar for the time being?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Dannie
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: New to the List

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi Scott.
Don't worry about your questions. We've all been there and will be more than 
happy to answer them for you.

Matt Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
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On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:43 AM, Scott Duck  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>  
> I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for 
> about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS and 
> Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put down 
> that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would be 
> getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a 
> iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the 
> performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has 
> gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do not 
> have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you Mac 
> users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I will be 
> a Mac user too.
>  
> Thanks,
> Scott Duck
> 
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Re: New to the List

[Gabriele Battaglia]

Hi Scott and All.
I'm also new to the list, just joined it yesterday.
I've an iPhone 5, an iPad 3, a MacBookPro13 and the last creature came to my 
crew, an iMac27 that make me feel like the Captain Kirk aboard of the 
Enterprise starship, LOL.


Read you soon.
Greetings. Gabriel. 


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Re: New to the List

[Devin Prater]

Welcome, all new to the list. 

Sent from my iPod

> On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:00, Gabriele Battaglia  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott and All.
> I'm also new to the list, just joined it yesterday.
> I've an iPhone 5, an iPad 3, a MacBookPro13 and the last creature came to my 
> crew, an iMac27 that make me feel like the Captain Kirk aboard of the 
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Re: New to the List

[Alex Hall]

Welcome, Scott. As others have said, no question is too basic - I asked some 
when I was starting out that seem painfully obvious now, but you have to learn 
somehow.

I'd also suggest that you visit www.applevis.com. There is a page just for Mac 
beginners you might find helpful, and the Applevis community is always willing 
to answer questions or create new content to help out.
On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Gabriele Battaglia  
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> I'm also new to the list, just joined it yesterday.
> I've an iPhone 5, an iPad 3, a MacBookPro13 and the last creature came to my 
> crew, an iMac27 that make me feel like the Captain Kirk aboard of the 
> Enterprise starship, LOL.
> 
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Re: New to the List

[Chris Apple boy]

Welcome to the list! Maybe I should add that VoiceOver on the mac is as 
powerful as Jaws under Windows. Very customizable, very flexible, etc etc.


Regards Chris

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On 01/04/2014 14:43, Scott Duck wrote:

Hi everyone,



I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for
about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS
and Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put
down that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would
be getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a
iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the
performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has
gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do
not have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you
Mac users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I
will be a Mac user too.



Thanks,

Scott Duck



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Re: New to the List

[Kerri]

Hi, Scott:
First of all, this is a place wherein *all questions are welcome. I too 
started with iOS devices which made me want to switch tot he Mac, I was so 
green I couldn't even find the on off switch so please feel free to ask! We're 
all willing to assist in any way we can, before during and after the switch.

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On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Scott Duck  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>  
> I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for 
> about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS and 
> Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put down 
> that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would be 
> getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a 
> iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the 
> performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has 
> gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do not 
> have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you Mac 
> users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I will be 
> a Mac user too.
>  
> Thanks,
> Scott Duck
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Re: New to the List

[CJ Daniel]

Hey Scott,

Welcome & don't feel alone.  The reasons you stated & the, basically, yearly 
upgrade fees for JAWS were what led me to switch to a mac several years ago.  
I'm on my second one now, as my first was a hand-me-down from my wife.  While 
nothing's perfect, it's, still, quite a thrill to walk into the Apple Store or 
Best Buy & start playing with the demo Macs, just like everyone else.  When 
you're ready to purchase, be sure to check out the refurbs that Apple offers.  
Also, you can occasionally find a great deal on an open-in-box @ Best Buy.  But 
again, welcome to the list.

CJ

On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Scott Duck  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>  
> I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for 
> about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS and 
> Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put down 
> that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would be 
> getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a 
> iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the 
> performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has 
> gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do not 
> have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you Mac 
> users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I will be 
> a Mac user too.
>  
> Thanks,
> Scott Duck
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Re: New to the List

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Welcome,
I've had my Macbook Pro for 4 years now. It is very stable.
On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Scott Duck  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> 
> I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for
> about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS
> and Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put
> down that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would
> be getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a
> iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the
> performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has
> gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do
> not have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you
> Mac users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I
> will be a Mac user too.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Scott Duck
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Re: New to the List

[Becky]

Hi Scott
I have had my Mack for a year and I love it.
There are no dum questions.
Becky Sabo

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 1, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

Welcome,
I've had my Macbook Pro for 4 years now. It is very stable.
> On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Scott Duck  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> 
> I just joined the list.  I do not have a Mac.  I have been a JAWS user for
> about 17 years.  I am getting tired of the increasing instability of JAWS
> and Windows in general.  I am thinking about getting a mac but, before I put
> down that kind of money, I want to find out a little more about what I would
> be getting into.  I am familiar with the IOS version of VoiceOver.  I have a
> iPhone, a iPad, and two Apple TVs.  I have been very impressed with the
> performance and stability of those devices and it is mostly this that has
> gotten me interested in the possibility of switching to the Mac.  As I do
> not have a Mac, I may ask some questions that seem rather obvious to all you
> Mac users but please bear with me.  I have a feeling that, eventually, I
> will be a Mac user too.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Scott Duck
> 
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Re: new to the list

[isaac]

Hi there welcome to the list we are glad that you have joined us and we will be 
happy to help you with any mac questions you may have.
isaac
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 Skype gold_wildcat 

On May 29, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Carlos Taylor  wrote:

> Hi all.  My name is Carlos Taylor and I'm new to the list.  I thought
> I would join the list to pick up any tips and tricks of VoiceOver and
> the Mac.  However, I'm not entirely new to the Mac.  I'm composing
> this message using a 2008 iMac at work.  In fact, I was in the
> AppleSeed program beta testing os 10.4 tiger, so I got to see
> VoiceOver in its infancy.  It has really grown and matured since then.
> I even purchased a Mac Mini, but it was soon made obsolete when Apple
> switched to Intel processors.  I'm planning to purchase a new Mac Mini
> later this year.  Until then, I'll keep using Macs at work whenever
> possible.  I'm also waiting to receive a 13-inch MacBook air to
> replace a 6-year-old Windows XP based laptop for work.  I oversee
> technology for students and faculty with disabilities at a mid-sized
> public university.  I work with faculty and students using both Macs
> and PCs, so I am trying to keep myself up-to-date in the Apple world.
> I have been a long-time user of Window-Eyes and more recently, NVDA.
> I've been an iPhone user since the summer of 2009, when Apple first
> included VoiceOver on the iOS platform.  Going back even further, one
> of  the first computers I used as a child was an apple 2e at school.
> At home, we first had a commodor 64 then later got an apple 2gs.  So
> that's a little about me.  I look forward to learning what I can from
> the list.
> 
> Carlos Taylor
> 
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Re: new to the list

[Traci Duncan]

Welcome to the list.  :)

When you get your Mac Mini do you plan on having windows on it as well?  This 
is my eventual goal.  I've been a happy Mac user for nearly 3 years, but I 
don't want to completely forget my Windows knowhow.

Traci

On May 29, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Carlos Taylor  wrote:

> Hi all.  My name is Carlos Taylor and I'm new to the list.  I thought
> I would join the list to pick up any tips and tricks of VoiceOver and
> the Mac.  However, I'm not entirely new to the Mac.  I'm composing
> this message using a 2008 iMac at work.  In fact, I was in the
> AppleSeed program beta testing os 10.4 tiger, so I got to see
> VoiceOver in its infancy.  It has really grown and matured since then.
> I even purchased a Mac Mini, but it was soon made obsolete when Apple
> switched to Intel processors.  I'm planning to purchase a new Mac Mini
> later this year.  Until then, I'll keep using Macs at work whenever
> possible.  I'm also waiting to receive a 13-inch MacBook air to
> replace a 6-year-old Windows XP based laptop for work.  I oversee
> technology for students and faculty with disabilities at a mid-sized
> public university.  I work with faculty and students using both Macs
> and PCs, so I am trying to keep myself up-to-date in the Apple world.
> I have been a long-time user of Window-Eyes and more recently, NVDA.
> I've been an iPhone user since the summer of 2009, when Apple first
> included VoiceOver on the iOS platform.  Going back even further, one
> of  the first computers I used as a child was an apple 2e at school.
> At home, we first had a commodor 64 then later got an apple 2gs.  So
> that's a little about me.  I look forward to learning what I can from
> the list.
> 
> Carlos Taylor
> 
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Re: new to the list

[Teresa Cochran]

Welcome to the list. I've found it quite helpful, and people on the list are 
generally very knowledgeable. I switched in 2010 and never looked back, except 
for the occasional use of my husband's Windows laptop, on which I installed 
nVDA.

It sounds like you have a lot to contribute to the list. Looking forward to 
hearing from you on various topics.

take care,
Teresa

"We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan

On May 29, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Carlos Taylor  wrote:

> Hi all.  My name is Carlos Taylor and I'm new to the list.  I thought
> I would join the list to pick up any tips and tricks of VoiceOver and
> the Mac.  However, I'm not entirely new to the Mac.  I'm composing
> this message using a 2008 iMac at work.  In fact, I was in the
> AppleSeed program beta testing os 10.4 tiger, so I got to see
> VoiceOver in its infancy.  It has really grown and matured since then.
> I even purchased a Mac Mini, but it was soon made obsolete when Apple
> switched to Intel processors.  I'm planning to purchase a new Mac Mini
> later this year.  Until then, I'll keep using Macs at work whenever
> possible.  I'm also waiting to receive a 13-inch MacBook air to
> replace a 6-year-old Windows XP based laptop for work.  I oversee
> technology for students and faculty with disabilities at a mid-sized
> public university.  I work with faculty and students using both Macs
> and PCs, so I am trying to keep myself up-to-date in the Apple world.
> I have been a long-time user of Window-Eyes and more recently, NVDA.
> I've been an iPhone user since the summer of 2009, when Apple first
> included VoiceOver on the iOS platform.  Going back even further, one
> of  the first computers I used as a child was an apple 2e at school.
> At home, we first had a commodor 64 then later got an apple 2gs.  So
> that's a little about me.  I look forward to learning what I can from
> the list.
> 
> Carlos Taylor
> 
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Re: new to the list

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

1.  Navigate to  the item you wish to drag.

2.  Route your mouse pointer to the Voiceover cursor with vo+Command+F5.

3.  Press vo+command+shift+spacebar to begin the drag drop process.

4.  Navigate to the item where you want to drop the item you're dragging.

5.  Route your mouse once again with vo+Command+F5.

6.  Drop the item, thereby finnishing the process by pressing 
vo+command+shift+spacebar once again.



Note that perhaps an easier way is to:

1.  Locate the first item which you want to drag and drop.

2.  Press vo+Comma.

3.  Locate where you wish to drop the item.

4.  Press vo+period.

I've found this method not to be nearly as reliable though.

Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Donald Goosens" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 9:55 PM
Subject: new to the list


Î My name is Donald and I am new to the list.  I bought a used MackBook a 
couple of years ago and have read some books from BookShare.  I have a 
wireless keyboard that I assume came with the computer. It has no numpad. 
It does have command, option, control and function key.  Where can I find a 
list of key commands that will help me with this keyboard?  Also, Can a 
totally blind person effectively use the drag and drop feature with 
VoiceOver?  I know I have so many questions and I want to thank all of you 
in advance for your help


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Re: new to the list

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

yes, we use the term vo command by pressing control and option at the same time.
By getting the command help for voice over, press VO h or in other words, 
control option h.

> On 07 Jul 2015, at 3:55 am, Donald Goosens  
> wrote:
> 
> Î My name is Donald and I am new to the list.  I bought a used 
> MackBook a couple of years ago and have read some books from BookShare.  I 
> have a wireless keyboard that I assume came with the computer. It has no 
> numpad.  It does have command, option, control and function key.  Where can I 
> find a list of key commands that will help me with this keyboard?  Also, Can 
> a totally blind person effectively use the drag and drop feature with 
> VoiceOver?  I know I have so many questions and I want to thank all of you in 
> advance for your help
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Re: new to the list

[matthew dyer]

Hi there.

Welcome to the mac.  I think you can  there might be some info on applevis.com. 
 HTH.

Matthew


> On Jul 6, 2015, at 9:55 PM, Donald Goosens  
> wrote:
> 
> Î My name is Donald and I am new to the list.  I bought a used 
> MackBook a couple of years ago and have read some books from BookShare.  I 
> have a wireless keyboard that I assume came with the computer. It has no 
> numpad.  It does have command, option, control and function key.  Where can I 
> find a list of key commands that will help me with this keyboard?  Also, Can 
> a totally blind person effectively use the drag and drop feature with 
> VoiceOver?  I know I have so many questions and I want to thank all of you in 
> advance for your help
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Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hello.
I can only answer two of your questions.
A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and not 
only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but Di.fm, 
RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of internet 
radio stations.
Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
version of their website.
I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.

God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
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1-877-774-7670, extension 3
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> On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, and 
> have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning curve is 
> not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which probably aren't 
> too difficult.  So, here goes.
> 
> 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
> Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
> messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
> just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
> being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
> this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
> users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
> applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
> with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
> tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
> 
> 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
> client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
> 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
> 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
> 
> Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
> document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
> questions. 
> 
> Erik
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Re: New to the List

[Grant Hardy]

Hi Erik, I can answer your last two questions. I Personally use the Radio 
Recorder app, as it can both listen to, and record directly from, internet 
radio stations. The interface leaves quite a lot to be desired, but if you add 
your most frequently listened to stations to a playlist (I’ve named mine 
“favghrites”) you should be good to go and become very efficient with the app. 
You should be able to figure out the interface with some trial and error, but 
I’m happy to offer some tips if needed as I know it’s not the most user 
friendly. Here’s the link: 
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/radio-recorder/id475736169?mt=12 


If you just want to listen to internet streams, but not record them, then the 
Radium app is often recommended here: 
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/radium-perfect-internet-radio/id597611879?mt=12

As for Adobe Flash Player, I wouldn’t install it until you need  to. YouTube, 
SoundCloud, Netflix, and many other popular sites can play their content 
without flash, right out of the box.

Grant

On Jan 22, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Erik Heil  wrote:

Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, and 
have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning curve is not 
difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which probably aren't too 
difficult.  So, here goes.

1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have Adium 
installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the messages as 
they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or just to bypass 
all queued messages and start reading the new text that is being displayed in 
the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, this isn't a problem.  
However, if you have a channel which has a lot of users sending messages, this 
simply does not work.  I would use console applications such as epic or other 
IRC clients, but their are major issues with Voiceover reading incoming text in 
console-based applications.  Cursor tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, 
as well as a myriad of issues.

2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 

Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
document in return for your time spent researching and answering my questions. 

Erik

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Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Yes, I like Radium too, although I wish since the Australian Open tennis 
tournament is now on that they have the radio station for it. For that I have 
to go to Tunein's website to listen to it. It would be nice if I could listen 
to it outside Safari if I wanted to listen to it on my Mac but oh well.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to install flash. I know for me that I like to go on 
websites that offer live TV streams for channels like ESPN 2 and such and I 
haven't found websites that stream in HTML 5. I would be up for any suggestions 
as to websites that offer streams in this format because I like being able to 
watch stuff on my TV using my Xbox 360 and it doesn't support flash. If this is 
getting off topic, then by all means, write me off list.
As for Adium, yes, I do notice that the built in speech can sometimes be 
annoying. To counter this, I use an app called Growl which has it's own options 
for speech. You can also silence it by pressing control if you have Voiceover 
on. It's $1.99 and works well with Yosemite.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> I can only answer two of your questions.
> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and not 
> only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but 
> Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of 
> internet radio stations.
> Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
> A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
> version of their website.
> I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
>> and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning curve 
>> is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which probably 
>> aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
>> 
>> 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
>> Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
>> messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
>> just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
>> being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
>> this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
>> users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
>> applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
>> with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
>> tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
>> 
>> 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
>> client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
>> 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
>> 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
>> 
>> Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
>> document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
>> questions. 
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Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hey Shaun.
You can import the URL into radio and add it as a favourite.

God bless. :)
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> On Jan 22, 2015, at 15:09, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I like Radium too, although I wish since the Australian Open tennis 
> tournament is now on that they have the radio station for it. For that I have 
> to go to Tunein's website to listen to it. It would be nice if I could listen 
> to it outside Safari if I wanted to listen to it on my Mac but oh well.
> Also, it wouldn't hurt to install flash. I know for me that I like to go on 
> websites that offer live TV streams for channels like ESPN 2 and such and I 
> haven't found websites that stream in HTML 5. I would be up for any 
> suggestions as to websites that offer streams in this format because I like 
> being able to watch stuff on my TV using my Xbox 360 and it doesn't support 
> flash. If this is getting off topic, then by all means, write me off list.
> As for Adium, yes, I do notice that the built in speech can sometimes be 
> annoying. To counter this, I use an app called Growl which has it's own 
> options for speech. You can also silence it by pressing control if you have 
> Voiceover on. It's $1.99 and works well with Yosemite.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 1:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.
>> I can only answer two of your questions.
>> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
>> not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but 
>> Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of 
>> internet radio stations.
>> Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
>> A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
>> version of their website.
>> I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
>> 
>> God bless. :)
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> work email:
>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>> Personal email:
>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
>>> and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning 
>>> curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which 
>>> probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
>>> 
>>> 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
>>> Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
>>> messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
>>> just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
>>> being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
>>> this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
>>> users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
>>> applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
>>> with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
>>> tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
>>> 
>>> 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
>>> client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
>>> 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
>>> 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
>>> document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
>>> questions. 
>>> 
>>> Erik
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[Erik Heil]

Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there was 
something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it all as 
iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> I can only answer two of your questions.
> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and not 
> only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but 
> Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of 
> internet radio stations.
> Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
> A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
> version of their website.
> I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
>> and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning curve 
>> is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which probably 
>> aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
>> 
>> 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
>> Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
>> messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
>> just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
>> being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
>> this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
>> users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
>> applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
>> with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
>> tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
>> 
>> 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
>> client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
>> 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
>> 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
>> 
>> Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
>> document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
>> questions. 
>> 
>> Erik
>> 
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Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi Eric,
Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you know 
what you're looking for.
You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
Radium and mark as a favourite.

God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
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1-877-774-7670, extension 3
work email:
matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email:
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> On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
> applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there 
> was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it all 
> as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
>> I can only answer two of your questions.
>> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
>> not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but 
>> Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of 
>> internet radio stations.
>> Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
>> A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
>> version of their website.
>> I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
>> 
>> God bless. :)
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> work email:
>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>> Personal email:
>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
>>> and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning 
>>> curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which 
>>> probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
>>> 
>>> 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
>>> Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
>>> messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
>>> just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
>>> being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
>>> this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
>>> users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
>>> applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
>>> with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
>>> tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
>>> 
>>> 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
>>> client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
>>> 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
>>> 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
>>> document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
>>> questions. 
>>> 
>>> Erik
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Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
> know what you're looking for.
> You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
> Radium and mark as a favourite.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
>> applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there 
>> was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it 
>> all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> I can only answer two of your questions.
>>> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
>>> not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, 
>>> but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot 
>>> of internet radio stations.
>>> Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
>>> A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
>>> version of their website.
>>> I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
>>> 
>>> God bless. :)
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> work email:
>>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> Personal email:
>>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil >>> > wrote:
 
 Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
 and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning 
 curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which 
 probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
 
 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
 Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
 messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
 just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
 being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
 this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
 users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
 applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
 with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  
 Cursor tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of 
 issues.
 
 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably 
 a client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
 
 Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
 document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
 questions. 
 
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Re: New to the List

[Grant Hardy]

The Radio Recorder app is also very similar to TuneIn or Ootunes on iOS 
devices. It can even record automatically in case you hear something and 
realize you want to listen to it again. I’ve no idea which app offers the more 
comprehensive directory as I’ve never tried Radium, but that shouldn’t be an 
issue since you can always add URLs manually. Having that recording 
functionality might be good for later use if you’re going to buy an app.

Grant

On Jan 22, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Erik Heil  wrote:

Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there was 
something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it all as 
iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens mailto:matt.dierck...@me.com>> wrote:

> Hello.
> I can only answer two of your questions.
> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and not 
> only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, but 
> Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot of 
> internet radio stations.
> Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
> A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
> version of their website.
> I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
>> and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning curve 
>> is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which probably 
>> aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
>> 
>> 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
>> Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
>> messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, or 
>> just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that is 
>> being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not high-traffic, 
>> this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which has a lot of 
>> users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would use console 
>> applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are major issues 
>> with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based applications.  Cursor 
>> tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
>> 
>> 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably a 
>> client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
>> 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
>> 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
>> 
>> Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
>> document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
>> questions. 
>> 
>> Erik
>> 
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[Matthew Dierckens]

Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
Copy the URL.
Now, open radium.
Find the "More options" menu button, and press spacebar.
Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station to 
your favourites.
Hth.

God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
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matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email:
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> On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
>> know what you're looking for.
>> You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
>> Radium and mark as a favourite.
>> 
>> God bless. :)
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> work email:
>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>> Personal email:
>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
>>> applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there 
>>> was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it 
>>> all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
 not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, 
 but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a lot 
 of internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 5 
 version of their website.
 I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com 
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com 
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil  > wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 model, 
> and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the learning 
> curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, which 
> probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
> 
> 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
> Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
> messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, 
> or just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text that 
> is being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not 
> high-traffic, this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel which 
> has a lot of users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I would 
> use console applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but their are 
> major issues with Voiceover reading incoming text in console-based 
> applications.  Cursor tracking using Voiceover seems nonexistent, as well 
> as a myriad of issues.
> 
> 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? Preferably 
> a client that supports MCP, sounds, etc?
> 3. What do you all use to listen to Internet Radio? 
> 4. Flash Plugin? Should I bother installing it on this machine? 
> 
> Thanks for all your time. If I get enough answers, I will post a summary 
> document in return for your time spent researching and answering my 
> questions. 
> 
> Erik
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Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

If anyone has this app for the iPhone, can you do the same on the there and if 
so, how? If there is a way, I might get rid of Tunein Radio again.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
> If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
> Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
> Copy the URL.
> Now, open radium.
> Find the "More options" menu button, and press spacebar.
> Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
> The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
> short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station to 
> your favourites.
> Hth.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
>>> know what you're looking for.
>>> You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
>>> Radium and mark as a favourite.
>>> 
>>> God bless. :)
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> work email:
>>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> Personal email:
>>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil >>> > wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
 applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there 
 was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it 
 all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens >>> > wrote:
 
> Hello.
> I can only answer two of your questions.
> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
> not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, 
> but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a 
> lot of internet radio stations.
> Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
> A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 
> 5 version of their website.
> I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 
>> model, and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the 
>> learning curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, 
>> which probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
>> 
>> 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
>> Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
>> messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, 
>> or just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text 
>> that is being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not 
>> high-traffic, this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel 
>> which has a lot of users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I 
>> would use console applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but 
>> their are major issues with Voiceover reading incoming text in 
>> console-based applications.  Cursor tracking using Voiceover seems 
>> nonexistent, as well as a myriad of issues.
>> 
>> 2.  What would you recommend as a very accessible MUDD client? 
>> Preferably a client th

Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and when I 
press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens. When I 
press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here? The link is 
http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/ 

Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
> If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
> Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
> Copy the URL.
> Now, open radium.
> Find the "More options" menu button, and press spacebar.
> Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
> The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
> short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station to 
> your favourites.
> Hth.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
>>> know what you're looking for.
>>> You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
>>> Radium and mark as a favourite.
>>> 
>>> God bless. :)
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> work email:
>>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> Personal email:
>>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil >>> > wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
 applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there 
 was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it 
 all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens >>> > wrote:
 
> Hello.
> I can only answer two of your questions.
> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and 
> not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and Canada, 
> but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also had a 
> lot of internet radio stations.
> Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
> A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 
> 5 version of their website.
> I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 
>> model, and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the 
>> learning curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few questions, 
>> which probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
>> 
>> 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I have 
>> Adium installed, but that's not a perfect solution. If Adium reads the 
>> messages as they come in, their's no way to control the rate of speech, 
>> or just to bypass all queued messages and start reading the new text 
>> that is being displayed in the channel.  For channels which are not 
>> high-traffic, this isn't a problem.  However, if you have a channel 
>> which has a lot of users sending messages, this simply does not work.  I 
>> would use console applications such as epic or other IRC clients, but 
>> their are major issues with Voiceover 

Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi,
You have to hit the "Download the stream to listen" link on the TuneIn page.
Then copy that link into radium.
God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
work email:
matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email:
matt.dierck...@me.com

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:39, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and when 
> I press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens. When I 
> press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here? The link 
> is http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/ 
> 
> Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens > > wrote:
>> 
>> Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
>> If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
>> Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
>> Copy the URL.
>> Now, open radium.
>> Find the "More options" menu button, and press spacebar.
>> Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
>> The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
>> short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station 
>> to your favourites.
>> Hth.
>> 
>> God bless. :)
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> work email:
>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>> Personal email:
>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
 know what you're looking for.
 You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
 Radium and mark as a favourite.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com 
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com 
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil  > wrote:
> 
> Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
> applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish 
> there was something similar to the tune in app that is available for 
> android it all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware 
> of it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
>> I can only answer two of your questions.
>> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, 
>> and not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and 
>> Canada, but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It also 
>> had a lot of internet radio stations.
>> Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
>> A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special HTML 
>> 5 version of their website.
>> I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
>> 
>> God bless. :)
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> work email:
>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>> Personal email:
>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:49, Erik Heil >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone.  Well, i'm the new proud owner of a iMac late 2013 
>>> model, and have had it for almost weeks.  So far, I love it, and the 
>>> learning curve is not difficult at all. However, I have a few 
>>> questions, which probably aren't too difficult.  So, here goes.
>>> 
>>> 1. Whatwould you recommend as an accessible IRC client? Note that I 
>>> have Adium

Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

What if it doesn't have a download this stream link? I guess I can't listen to 
it outside Safari.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> You have to hit the "Download the stream to listen" link on the TuneIn page.
> Then copy that link into radium.
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:39, Shawn Krasniuk > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and 
>> when I press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens. 
>> When I press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here? 
>> The link is http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/ 
>> 
>> Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
>>> If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
>>> Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
>>> Copy the URL.
>>> Now, open radium.
>>> Find the "More options" menu button, and press spacebar.
>>> Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
>>> The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
>>> short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station 
>>> to your favourites.
>>> Hth.
>>> 
>>> God bless. :)
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> work email:
>>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> Personal email:
>>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk >>> > wrote:
 
 Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you 
> know what you're looking for.
> You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into 
> Radium and mark as a favourite.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those 
>> applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish 
>> there was something similar to the tune in app that is available for 
>> android it all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware 
>> of it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> I can only answer two of your questions.
>>> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, 
>>> and not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and 
>>> Canada, but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It 
>>> also had a lot of internet radio stations.
>>> Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
>>> A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special 
>>> HTML 5 version of their website.
>>> I apologize that I couldn't be of any further assistance.
>>> 
>>> God bless. :)
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> work email:
>>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> Personal email:
>>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 13:

Re: New to the List

[Matthew Dierckens]

Every TuneIn stream link does that I've seen. once that opens, command L, 
command a and then command C, and then import into radium.

God bless. :)
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
work email:
matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
Personal email:
matt.dierck...@me.com

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:55, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> What if it doesn't have a download this stream link? I guess I can't listen 
> to it outside Safari.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Matthew Dierckens > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> You have to hit the "Download the stream to listen" link on the TuneIn page.
>> Then copy that link into radium.
>> God bless. :)
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> work email:
>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>> Personal email:
>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:39, Shawn Krasniuk >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and 
>>> when I press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens. 
>>> When I press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here? 
>>> The link is http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/ 
>>> 
>>> Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens >>> > wrote:
 
 Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
 If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
 Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
 Copy the URL.
 Now, open radium.
 Find the "More options" menu button, and press spacebar.
 Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
 The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and 
 short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station 
 to your favourites.
 Hth.
 
 God bless. :)
 Matthew Dierckens
 Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com 
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 work email:
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
 Personal email:
 matt.dierck...@me.com 
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk  > wrote:
> 
> Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to 
> do.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if 
>> you know what you're looking for.
>> You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website 
>> into Radium and mark as a favourite.
>> 
>> God bless. :)
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> work email:
>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>> Personal email:
>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try 
>>> those applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I 
>>> wish there was something similar to the tune in app that is available 
>>> for android it all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not 
>>> aware of it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hello.
 I can only answer two of your questions.
 A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, 
 and not only a bunch of paid subscriptions such as SiriusXM U.S. and 
 Canada, but Di.fm, RadioTunes, formally Sky.FM, and many others. It 
 also had a lot of internet radio stations.
 Honestly, flash isn't important for your machine.
 A lot of websites use HTML 5, and sites like youtube have a special

Re: New to the List

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Ok but all I see is a 32 KB MP3 and a 32 KB flash thing. No download this 
stream. Do you need a Tunein Account to download streams?

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

> On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Matthew Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> Every TuneIn stream link does that I've seen. once that opens, command L, 
> command a and then command C, and then import into radium.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:55, Shawn Krasniuk > > wrote:
>> 
>> What if it doesn't have a download this stream link? I guess I can't listen 
>> to it outside Safari.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Matthew Dierckens >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> You have to hit the "Download the stream to listen" link on the TuneIn page.
>>> Then copy that link into radium.
>>> God bless. :)
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> work email:
>>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> Personal email:
>>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:39, Shawn Krasniuk >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and 
 when I press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens. 
 When I press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here? 
 The link is http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/ 
 
 Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens  > wrote:
> 
> Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
> If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
> Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
> Copy the URL.
> Now, open radium.
> Find the "More options" menu button, and press spacebar.
> Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
> The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name 
> and short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the 
> station to your favourites.
> Hth.
> 
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com 
>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to 
>> do.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if 
>>> you know what you're looking for.
>>> You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website 
>>> into Radium and mark as a favourite.
>>> 
>>> God bless. :)
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> work email:
>>> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com 
>>> Personal email:
>>> matt.dierck...@me.com 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil >>> > wrote:
 
 Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try 
 those applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I 
 wish there was something similar to the tune in app that is available 
 for android it all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not 
 aware of it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens >>> > wrot

Re: New to the List

[Erik Heil]

Hi
F first of all, I want to thank all of you for your excellent responses.
Well, I will certainly try the applications that were suggested. STD
before, recording isn't really an issue right now, but maybe in the future.
As for as an accessible MUD client, we can wait on that, as its not really
a priority at the moment.  Telnet works just fine, provided I use "visually
impaired" mode,where supported.  I plan to write the friendly workers at
accessibil...@apple.com in order to try and get a usable solution to the
terminal-based issues.  Note that I come from a UNIX and Linux background,
so I'm am of course comfortable with various shells, as well as writing
shell scripts.  I see that Voiceover has the ability to be controlled via
Apple Script, which is promising.  However, in order to get cursor tracking
working, and a much better user experience within Terminal, its going to
take more than Apple Scripts. Anyways, as I said before, this is an
excellent discussion, so it's go for it.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:

> Ok but all I see is a 32 KB MP3 and a 32 KB flash thing. No download this
> stream. Do you need a Tunein Account to download streams?
>
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Matthew Dierckens 
> wrote:
>
> Every TuneIn stream link does that I've seen. once that opens, command L,
> command a and then command C, and then import into radium.
>
> God bless. :)
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> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
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>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:55, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>
> What if it doesn't have a download this stream link? I guess I can't
> listen to it outside Safari.
>
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:51 PM, Matthew Dierckens 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> You have to hit the "Download the stream to listen" link on the TuneIn
> page.
> Then copy that link into radium.
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 20:39, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>
> Hi Matt. I did the steps listed below. I copied this URL into Radium and
> when I press save nothing happens. When I press VO+Space, nothing happens.
> When I press enter I get the bonk sound. Am I doing something wrong here?
> The link is http://tunein.com/radio/Australian-Open-Radio-997-s132279/
> Copy this into your Radium and see what happens.
>
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Matthew Dierckens 
> wrote:
>
> Here are steps on how to enter a URL manually into radium.
> If you're using TuneIn's website, do a search and find the station.
> Once it starts playing, press command L to open the location box.
> Copy the URL.
> Now, open radium.
> Find the "More options" menu button, and press spacebar.
> Go down to import URL, or you can just press command =.
> The URL will automatically be inserted. You can enter the station name and
> short description for your favourites, and press enter to save the station
> to your favourites.
> Hth.
>
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 17:03, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>
> Hey Matthew. How do you import a URL into Radium? That would be nice to do.
>
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
> Many of the Tune In radio stations can be played on the Radium app if you
> know what you're looking for.
> You can also import the URL that you listen to on the TUneIn website into
> Radium and mark as a favourite.
>
> God bless. :)
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> work email:
> matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
> Personal email:
> matt.dierck...@me.com
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 16:22, Erik Heil  wrote:
>
> Hey guys, thank you for all the suggestions. I will definitely try those
> applications. Recording is not really an issue right now, but I wish there
> was something similar to the tune in app that is available for android it
> all as iOS devices. Perhaps there is, but I'm just not aware of it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Matthew Dierckens 
> wrote:
>
> Hello.
> I can only answer two of your questions.
> A good internet radi app is called Radium. It's $10 in the app store, and
> not only 

Re: New to the list

[Vaughn Brown]

Welcome to the list Michelle!
I am still learning and learning on computers is an on-going adventure.
Vaughn

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>
>
>
> Michelle Stevens here,
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>
> I am a new Mac Book Air user.  I have had my Mac  for 6 months and love it.
> One of the things I love about Apple is that because I am Blind I use
> VoiceOver and a Braille display connected to my mac. It is very friendly
> with adapted technology.  I unpacked it turned it on, a friend helped me to
> get started and away I went.
>
>
>
> Ok I have had a hell of a learning curb and am still learning.
>
>
>
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Re: New to the list

[Sharon Hooley]

Hi!

I am also new to this list. I recently got my very first Mac, Book Ere, last 
week, and I want to learn how to use it, along with Windows 10.

Thank you for creating this list,


Sharon H.

> On Nov 30, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Vaughn Brown  wrote:
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> Vaughn
> 
>> On 11/29/15, Michelle's Home emails  wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Michelle Stevens here,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am a new Mac Book Air user.  I have had my Mac  for 6 months and love it.
>> One of the things I love about Apple is that because I am Blind I use
>> VoiceOver and a Braille display connected to my mac. It is very friendly
>> with adapted technology.  I unpacked it turned it on, a friend helped me to
>> get started and away I went.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ok I have had a hell of a learning curb and am still learning.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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New to the list, with lots of questions

[Karen Poulakos]

Hi,

I'm currently using a Windows pc with the Window-eyes screen reader, and am 
considering switching to  Mac when purchasing my next computer.  I'm 
wondering how the Mac experience will differ from my experience with 
Window-eyes.


1.  Is there a braille transcription program available?  I currently use 
Duxbury, with a 15 year old Index Everest embosser.  I'm open to using a 
different braille transcription program, as long as the cost isn't 
prohibitive, but I'd like to be able to use my embosser.


2.  How about OCR?  I currently use Kurzweil 1000.

3.  Are there any music notation programs that will work on the Mac?  I 
currently have not found anything that will work with Window-eyes.  I would 
like to find software that will allow me to scan music on to the computer, 
and will either read or play the music.  It would also be  nice to be able 
to write music notation on the computer.


4.  How does the word processing experience differ from pc to Mac?  I'm not 
a high power user of word, but do use it for very basic documents.  Is there 
much difference in creating and editing documents on a Mac?


How about email?  I really don't like web based email.  I prefer to download 
my email to Outlook Express.  I like the Outlook Express layout, and the 
ease in creating folders and mail rules.  Can I download my email on the 
Mac?
I'll probably come up with lots more questions.  But, these are the ones 
I've been really wondering about for quite some time.


Thanks,

Karen P 


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New to the list and have a few questions

[T wood]

Hey everyone,

My name is Tyler. Picked myself a macbook pro 15" core i7 about 6 months ago. 
Have had nothing but good luck with it, and now that I finally have gotten used 
to the thing I have a few questions.

1. How do you use dropbox? Or actually, how can't we use it? I thought there 
was a way around that with the window chooser, but am I wrong now? I have it 
set up on my virtual machine as of right now, though it keeps telling me it 
cannot access dropbox folder even though things are being uploaded and 
downloaded.

2. This is more my main question because I'm really not happy. I bought audio 
highjack pro, and was able to highjack system audio, which was really my goal 
all along - so I could broadcast said audio to skype. I installed soundflower, 
which is required to go along with it. I eventually bought it, and soon after 
that things went a bit haywire...

I updated it, (probably a bad mistake) and it told me to instal the extra 
"instant on". Well ok, I figured this must be some new king of thing. Suddenly, 
highjack doesn't work. If I highjack system audio I get nothing, and the person 
I'm trying to demonstrate on skype isn't hearing a thing iether. Ok, fine. I 
tried highjacking just one application - vlc, to be exact - and I also got 
nothing. So ok. I downgraded to my previous version, and from then on have had 
nothing but problems with the thing. If I try and highjack system audio now, I 
lose all sounds including voiceover. If I navigate out of the window to see if 
it worked (I did this multiple times, ugh) and I couldn't get back to the 
highjack checkbox, all sounds were lost and when I hard booted the thing, I got 
nothing until I went to system preferences, interacted with the preferenace 
pain and hit so quick. Then hoped like heck I could find internal 
speakers/headphones. All of this done with no speech.

I tried uninstalling audio highjack pro and soundflower completely, going as 
far as removing them from .com.apple etc. So now I'm lost...what do I do from 
here? Can I access soundflower somehow, did I do something wrong? I just want 
this to be able to work, but I can't highjack anything, including other 
programs.

3. Ok, I saw some chat about this in the archives but I'm still unclear. How 
exactly do you use caffeine? I heard there were multiple ways to go about it, 
but I'm still unclear on how exactly this is accomplished. I got told I could 
use insomnia x by hitting vo m three times, using the trackpad to find the menu 
bar for it. That, however, failed. I couldn't find anything and still can't to 
this day when I open it. So this is getting rather annoying - all I want to do 
is close the lid of this thing when I'm chatting on skype so I don't bash it 
into something one of these days and scratch it's beautiful finish...

I would also like to take the time here to thank Rick Harmon and Mike Arrigo. 
They were the main reason I made the purchas and I don't regret it in the 
slightest, $2150 or not. Probably the most stable peace of technology I've ever 
owned, and my windows laptop and windows netbook have a lot of dust on them. 
Also, the battery life, for being a core i7, is finominal. I have a few other 
questions, but I think I've rambled on enough.

thanks in advance - by the way, am always up for a chat - my contact info is 
below.
skype: the_conman283
msn is the same - just with @hotmail.com at the end.
twitter: http://www.twitter.com/wolfman1360

- Tyler

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Re: New to the list, with lots of questions

[Alex Hall]

See my responses below.
On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently using a Windows pc with the Window-eyes screen reader, and am 
> considering switching to  Mac when purchasing my next computer.  I'm 
> wondering how the Mac experience will differ from my experience with 
> Window-eyes.
It will be very, very different, so don't go into this thinking it's just a 
matter of learning a few new keystrokes. It's not better or worse overall, just 
way different.
> 
> 1.  Is there a braille transcription program available?  I currently use 
> Duxbury, with a 15 year old Index Everest embosser.  I'm open to using a 
> different braille transcription program, as long as the cost isn't 
> prohibitive, but I'd like to be able to use my embosser.
There is, but I have little experience with it and it is nothing like DBT. 
However, I've heard rumors that DBT will be released for Mac sometime in the 
future, so this question may be moot at some point.
> 
> 2.  How about OCR?  I currently use Kurzweil 1000.
There are several options, and everyone will tell you a different app or set of 
apps to use. The general consensus seems to be Abbyy Fine Reader, Docuscan 
Plus, or Prizmo as a somewhat distant third.
> 
> 3.  Are there any music notation programs that will work on the Mac?  I 
> currently have not found anything that will work with Window-eyes.  I would 
> like to find software that will allow me to scan music on to the computer, 
> and will either read or play the music.  It would also be  nice to be able to 
> write music notation on the computer.
I very much wish there were, but I have not found anything. Sorry.
> 
> 4.  How does the word processing experience differ from pc to Mac?  I'm not a 
> high power user of word, but do use it for very basic documents.  Is there 
> much difference in creating and editing documents on a Mac?
If it's only basic editing you need, then Text Edit, which is built into every 
Mac, will do fine. It supports saving files as .txt, .rtf, and .doc, and it can 
read .docx files. You can bold, underline, italicize, justify, center, change 
color, and even insert lists or images. The only porlbem is that Voiceover 
currently has trouble with tables in files, but we're all hoping that will be 
fixed in the next major OS10 update due out in a few weeks.
> 
> How about email?  I really don't like web based email.  I prefer to download 
> my email to Outlook Express.  I like the Outlook Express layout, and the ease 
> in creating folders and mail rules.  Can I download my email on the Mac?
The Mc's Mail app is really nice and handles multiple email accounts in a great 
interface. Rules, folders and so on are all easily set up.

> I'll probably come up with lots more questions.  But, these are the ones I've 
> been really wondering about for quite some time.
Keep them coming. The more you can learn beforehand, the better you can prepare 
for the big change, or know that a Mac is not for you.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Karen P 
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Re: New to the list, with lots of questions

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
As I said in a post I wrote one time on file management, that was my biggest 
problem is switching to the Mac. As an experienced computer user, it took me 
about two weeks to get used to the Mac. It's not that file management is hard, 
it's just enough different that I had a little trouble until I figure out how 
to handle it better. So when you get there, if you get there, let us know.

Of course, everybody handles things differently, but it might be better if you 
make your switch before your Windows computer is gone completely. This is 
because if you have any projects that you have to get done desperately like the 
next day, it will cut down on your stress level in the first two or three 
weeks. However, if you think that you will tend to gravitate to your Windows 
computer instead of learning, then this might not be a good thing.

I have avoided this like the plague, but it is possible to install windows on a 
Macintosh computer. Some people on this list have done this, and they may want 
to tell you if that's a good thing for you to do.
Regards,
Gigi

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On Sep 2, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> See my responses below.
> On Sep 2, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Karen Poulakos  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm currently using a Windows pc with the Window-eyes screen reader, and am 
>> considering switching to  Mac when purchasing my next computer.  I'm 
>> wondering how the Mac experience will differ from my experience with 
>> Window-eyes.
> It will be very, very different, so don't go into this thinking it's just a 
> matter of learning a few new keystrokes. It's not better or worse overall, 
> just way different.
>> 
>> 1.  Is there a braille transcription program available?  I currently use 
>> Duxbury, with a 15 year old Index Everest embosser.  I'm open to using a 
>> different braille transcription program, as long as the cost isn't 
>> prohibitive, but I'd like to be able to use my embosser.
> There is, but I have little experience with it and it is nothing like DBT. 
> However, I've heard rumors that DBT will be released for Mac sometime in the 
> future, so this question may be moot at some point.
>> 
>> 2.  How about OCR?  I currently use Kurzweil 1000.
> There are several options, and everyone will tell you a different app or set 
> of apps to use. The general consensus seems to be Abbyy Fine Reader, Docuscan 
> Plus, or Prizmo as a somewhat distant third.
>> 
>> 3.  Are there any music notation programs that will work on the Mac?  I 
>> currently have not found anything that will work with Window-eyes.  I would 
>> like to find software that will allow me to scan music on to the computer, 
>> and will either read or play the music.  It would also be  nice to be able 
>> to write music notation on the computer.
> I very much wish there were, but I have not found anything. Sorry.
>> 
>> 4.  How does the word processing experience differ from pc to Mac?  I'm not 
>> a high power user of word, but do use it for very basic documents.  Is there 
>> much difference in creating and editing documents on a Mac?
> If it's only basic editing you need, then Text Edit, which is built into 
> every Mac, will do fine. It supports saving files as .txt, .rtf, and .doc, 
> and it can read .docx files. You can bold, underline, italicize, justify, 
> center, change color, and even insert lists or images. The only porlbem is 
> that Voiceover currently has trouble with tables in files, but we're all 
> hoping that will be fixed in the next major OS10 update due out in a few 
> weeks.
>> 
>> How about email?  I really don't like web based email.  I prefer to download 
>> my email to Outlook Express.  I like the Outlook Express layout, and the 
>> ease in creating folders and mail rules.  Can I download my email on the Mac?
> The Mc's Mail app is really nice and handles multiple email accounts in a 
> great interface. Rules, folders and so on are all easily set up.
> 
>> I'll probably come up with lots more questions.  But, these are the ones 
>> I've been really wondering about for quite some time.
> Keep them coming. The more you can learn beforehand, the better you can 
> prepare for the big change, or know that a Mac is not for you.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Karen P 
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Re: New to the list, with lots of questions

[Mary Otten]

The question to ask yourself is, why am I considering switching to a Mac?

Like you, I am a K1000 user and also a Window Eyes user.I'm not a power user of 
Word either, but I love the simplicity of printing directly to my Index 
embosser from within Word just by accessing the Duxbury item in Word's menu and 
embossing directly from there. No hassle. No 3 programs to switch among and 
mess with. As was mentioned, Duxbury is apparently working on a Mac version of 
their program. What will its capability and accessibility be, especially since 
Word on the Mac is inaccessible? Will it work with Text Edit or Pages? Nobody 
knows, but one thing we do know: it won't be free. And you already own the 
Windows version.

I don't know how many of the K1000 features you take advantage of. But I can 
say without doubt that there is no equivalent on the Mac side. There are 
solutions, and one or another might meet your needs, depending on what those 
are. But since you've already paid the money for K1000, what prompts you to 
want to switch? You could consider running Windows on a Mac, either via 
bootcamp, the solution I chose, or via VMWare Fusion. 

I bought my Mac 4 years ago with the hope that, by the time my Windows xp 
machine had to go, scanning and word processing and embossing would have 
matured to the level they are on Windows for blind users. Such is not the case, 
which is why I am sticking with Windows for some things. If you are not one of 
the "I hate Microsoft" ideologs, who want to use a Mac because they can and 
because they just plain don't like MS, then consider carefully before you 
decide to take on a whole new os with its attendant learning curve. 

If you're moving to a Mac because you will save money on screen readers, 
consider that the machine alone is liable to cost you more than a pc, and that 
you could put that savings towards the cost of keeping up your screen reader 
subscription, or you could try the NVDA screen reader, which is free and quite 
good for lots of things. I'm not saying Macs are bad. I'm not saying they're 
not a good solution for somebody who doesn't have an investment in Windows 
applications that are specialized, like K1000 and a screen reader. I'm just 
suggesting that you should analyze your needs and why you are considering the 
switch. I love the Apple mail program. I can't compare it with Outlook Express, 
because I never used that program. Good luck with the decision.\
\
Mary
Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com


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