Re: [Mailman-Users] Receiving Bounces
Tim Arney wrote: I use Mailman 2.1.6 to manage the mailing list on my domain, which is configured using cPanel. It seems a lot of members aren't receiving my posts, and according to my server support team bounces are being received, but from what I can see MM can't be configured to forward all bounces to the list administrator. Is there a way around this? Mailman can be configured to forward all unrecognized bounces to the list admin (bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner Yes). Assuming bounce processing is turned on for the list, bounces which are recognized just increment the bounce score for the bouncing user. When the user's score reaches the threshold one of two things happens depending on the setting of VERP_PROBES. If VERP_PROBES has its Defaults.py value of No, delivery is disabled for the user and if bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes, a copy of the disabling bounce is sent to the list admin, or if VERP_PROBES = Yes in mm_cfg.py, the users bounce score is reset and a VERPed probe is sent to the user, and if that bounces, delivery is disabled for the user and if bounce_notify_owner_on_disable is Yes, a copy of the disabling bounce is sent to the list admin. So no. In general you don't see all bounces, but if you want to see them, be sure all the bounce notifications are on and set bounce_score_threshold to 0.5. Then the first bounce for a user will result in a disable and the bounce will be forwarded to the admin and you can see why it bounced. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] UnicodeError in admindb interface
Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run several mailing lists under Mailman 2.1.6. Recently one of my mailing lists received 2 spam messages, I was able to delete one of them using the moderator admindb interface, but when I tried to delete the second message, I got the hit a bug page (traceback is listed below). At that point I: ran check_db and check_perms, restarted the daemon, cleared out the locks. No luck. MS Restarting mailman shouldn't have been required. If you MS 'cleared locks' you may now have multiple instances of the MS same qrunners running. This needs to be addressed - see MS http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq04.068.htp. I found the heldmsg in data/ and deleted the message manually, which seems to have made matters worse. Now when I access the admindb web page for the mailing list, it throws the error right away before displaying the admindb page (same traceback as before). I suspect I may have not deleted everything I need to delete. MS That's right. You also need to delete the MS lists/listname/request.pck that contains the request and MS points to the now non-existent heldmsg file. Mark, This did the trick. Thanks! I have considered upgrading to 2.1.7, but thought I should resolve this issue first. MS I'm not sure if the underlying issue is fixed in 2.1.7 or MS not. At this point, I would advise going to 2.1.8 (rc1 should MS be released this weekend). Will monitor if any additional spam cause the unicode error again and, if so, will test under 2.1.8rc1. Thanks, -Tom - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1cent;/min. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Bouncing a user repeatedly.
P.I.Julius wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 08:28 -0800, Mark Sapiro wrote: This may say that Mailman is actually trying to send just to cva34.internetdsl.tpnet.pl or p43n152.172.63.ruraltel.net. This may be some loop involved in rejecting messages or some kind of 'denial of service' attack on your server. You never mentioned messages incomming to Mailman. Are there any? Yes they are, more than a lot. If you look at the list's Privacy options generic_nonmember_action and header_filter_rules actions if any, are these set to Reject? If so, try changing them to Hold or Discard and see what happens (Hold will give more information if this is the problem). generic_nonmember_action is set to Discard, but I cant find any header_filter_rules. If you mean you can't find where header_filter_rules is, it's under Privacy options-Spam filters. If you mean there aren't any rules specified, then that's not part of the problem. Anyway: i just got an email from one of my friend and he said the only way to stop this is to stop mailman and after that delete the specified messages from the qfiles directory. Could this be a bug? Maybe. I can't say what the problem is without knowing more about the incoming messages. I suggest 'bin/mailmanctl stop', then 'ls -lR qfiles/' to see what is in what queues. Normally, I would suggest bin/show_qfiles to look at the individual files, but pre-2.1.8a1 show_qfiles has a bug. There is a patch at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=147group_id=103atid=100103, or you can use bin/dumpdb. If you find unwanted messages in qfiles/in, qfiles/out, qfiles/command and/or qfiles/virgin (I think those are the only places they would be), move the .pck files out of those directories, but save them for analysis. We would want to see what the various messages look like. Then do 'bin/mailmanctl start' to start Mailman. Note that even when Mailman is stopped, new posts and requests will be added to the in/ and command/ queues as messages arrive, so you can't just blindly empty the queues as some of the entries will be wanted. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10
I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.1.8b1 on Solaris 10 - configure works - make works - make install does not. I checked the lists and found that I'm not the only person to have this problem - Unfortunately, the other person's solution was to revert to Solaris 8 - I really don't want to do that. The make install error is command '/sgnome/tools/x86-solaris/forte/SOS8/SUNWspro/bin/cc' failed with exit status 2 trying to compile src/hangul.c - Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you. /kpt -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Installation on Solaris 10
I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.1.8b1 on Solaris 10 - configure works - make works - make install does not. The problem seems to a Python issue - I checked the Python lists and found that I'm not the only person to have this problem - Unfortunately, the other person's solution was to revert to Solaris 8 - I really don't want to do that. The make install error is command '/sgnome/tools/x86-solaris/forte/SOS8/SUNWspro/bin/cc' failed with exit status 2 trying to compile src/hangul.c - Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you. /kpt -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] bouncing unwanted guests, et al
Here's my dilemma. I get tons of SPAM/PHISHING attacks at my email inbox. I am tired of deleting so much crap every day. I have SA and clamav installed, but perhaps I don't have them configured. Would anyone here be willing to share their mix of tools and how they implement them to fight this. On a more Mailman-specific note, I have a list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] set up for my wife's business, and I constantly get bounce notices, from all sorts of strange people trying to post to her list. I likely receive 20 to 40 per day, just to her list. How do I deflect those, or is just the fact that Mailman is bouncing them and not letting through, evidence enough that it's working? Doc -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Detailed reports of members
hi How do check how many [and who] members are in HELD state? It would be nice to see something like Normal: xx Held: yy Unsubscribed: zz Waiting for confirmation: aa -- -- B.G. Mahesh -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] bouncing unwanted guests, et al
On 4/3/06, Dr. Scott S. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my dilemma. I get tons of SPAM/PHISHING attacks at my email inbox. I am tired of deleting so much crap every day. I have SA and clamav installed, but perhaps I don't have them configured. Would anyone here be willing to share their mix of tools and how they implement them to fight this. This isn't really a place to ask this... but you already seem to know that. Thus: How you integrate SA and clamav into your system depends on what mail server you're running. The easiest way (I think) is to do this through Procmail (which still requires some mail server support). Procmail lets you define rules for handling messages. E.g., you can have a rule for all messages that scans them with clamav and spamassassin, and then a rule for messages that SA marks as spam (i.e., adds a header like X-Spam: Yes or somesuch) to be discarded. On a more Mailman-specific note, I have a list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] set up for my wife's business, and I constantly get bounce notices, from all sorts of strange people trying to post to her list. I likely receive 20 to 40 per day, just to her list. How do I deflect those, or is just the fact that Mailman is bouncing them and not letting through, evidence enough that it's working? My suggestion above works for this as well. You can use procmail rules along with spamassassin to pre-filter posts to your list and discard any that are blatantly spam. That said, the fact that you're getting the notifications, rather than getting spammy posts to the list, means that mailman is doing its job in this regard. Any improvements you make will just result in less spam for you. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Un-disabling all members
Hi, I was having problems where not all members were receiving posts, so I set my bounce_score_threshold to 0.5 so that I would receive all the bounces by disabling members on the first bounce. It then turned out that all members that were on a domain different to mine were bouncing because of a configuration error on Exim. That's been resolved now, but all of my members have been disabled. I was wondering if there's a way to automatically un-disable all the members, ideally through the web interface or through some email command? If that's not possible, is there some sort of shell command that I can ask my domain host to execute? Regards, Tim -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Un-disabling all members
On 4/3/06, Tim Arney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: members have been disabled. I was wondering if there's a way to automatically un-disable all the members, ideally through the web interface or through some email command? If that's not possible, is there some sort of shell command that I can ask my domain host to execute? It might not be effective if you have a large list, but you can do this through the Admin interface, through Membership Management Membership List. There is probably some with_list magic or somesuch that can be used, as well, but I'll let someone more capable suggest something here. Also, if you aren't worried about individualized settings (e.g., digest), it shouldn't be very difficult to extract a list of addresses from the Membership List page, which you can then pass to Mass Removal and Mass Subscribe, in turn. I'd hold off on this, though, until you've considered other options. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Cron setup
I am not able to figure out why my script is not running which I have setup with cron. I created a script, which I made executable and placed in the /etc/cron.daily directory. Cron is running but my script never executes. Can someone help me figure out why? -- Jewel -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10
Kent Taylor wrote: I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.1.8b1 on Solaris 10 - configure works - make works - make install does not. I checked the lists and found that I'm not the only person to have this problem - Unfortunately, the other person's solution was to revert to Solaris 8 - I really don't want to do that. The make install error is command '/sgnome/tools/x86-solaris/forte/SOS8/SUNWspro/bin/cc' failed with exit status 2 trying to compile src/hangul.c - Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you. I'm only guessing as a workaround that might not work or might cause other problems, but if you look at misc/Makefile in the unpack directory, you'll see SHELL= /bin/sh PYTHONLIBDIR= $(prefix)/pythonlib SETUPINSTOPTS= --install-lib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \ --install-purelib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \ --install-data $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) SETUPCMD= setup.py --quiet install $(SETUPINSTOPTS) PKGDIR= $(srcdir) Try adding a line to SETUPINSTOPTS so it becomes SETUPINSTOPTS= --install-lib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \ --install-purelib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \ --without-extension \ --install-data $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron setup
On 4/3/06, Jewel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in the /etc/cron.daily directory. Cron is running but my script never executes. Can someone help me figure out why? Check your /var/log/syslog for messages from cron indicating why it may not have run your script. Also, check your /etc/crontab to be certain that the appropriate entries exist to run the scripts in cron.daily. That said, this message doesn't really apply to Mailman (even if this is some mailman script you're working on, it's still a CRON issue.) You ought to find out who wrote your version of cron and contact them, or try a general help list. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10
Thank you Mark. I get an option --without-extension not recognized error. /kpt From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 4/3/2006 1:11 PM To: Kent Taylor; mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10 Kent Taylor wrote: I'm attempting to install Mailman 2.1.8b1 on Solaris 10 - configure works - make works - make install does not. I checked the lists and found that I'm not the only person to have this problem - Unfortunately, the other person's solution was to revert to Solaris 8 - I really don't want to do that. The make install error is command '/sgnome/tools/x86-solaris/forte/SOS8/SUNWspro/bin/cc' failed with exit status 2 trying to compile src/hangul.c - Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you. I'm only guessing as a workaround that might not work or might cause other problems, but if you look at misc/Makefile in the unpack directory, you'll see SHELL= /bin/sh PYTHONLIBDIR= $(prefix)/pythonlib SETUPINSTOPTS= --install-lib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \ --install-purelib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \ --install-data $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) SETUPCMD= setup.py --quiet install $(SETUPINSTOPTS) PKGDIR= $(srcdir) Try adding a line to SETUPINSTOPTS so it becomes SETUPINSTOPTS= --install-lib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \ --install-purelib $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) \ --without-extension \ --install-data $(DESTDIR)$(PYTHONLIBDIR) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron setup
Jewel wrote: I am not able to figure out why my script is not running which I have setup with cron. I created a script, which I made executable and placed in the /etc/cron.daily directory. Cron is running but my script never executes. Can someone help me figure out why? Do the other scripts in /etc/cron.daily run? This is not the normal way to run a script with cron. The normal way is to put an entry in the crontab of the user that specifies what to run and when. See 'man crontab' and 'man 5 crontab'. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10
Kent Taylor wrote: Thank you Mark. I get an option --without-extension not recognized error. I think that comes from the Japanese codecs setup which is run with the same command and doesn't like the option, so instead try editing misc/KoreanCodecs-2.0.5/setup.py and replacing ext_modules = flavors['extension'] and [ Extension(korean.c._koco, [src/_koco.c]), Extension(korean.c.hangul, [src/hangul.c]), ] or []) at the end of the module with ext_modules = []) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10
Thank you again. Same option --without-extension not recognized error. /kpt From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 4/3/2006 1:40 PM To: Kent Taylor; mailman-users@python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10 Kent Taylor wrote: Thank you Mark. I get an option --without-extension not recognized error. I think that comes from the Japanese codecs setup which is run with the same command and doesn't like the option, so instead try editing misc/KoreanCodecs-2.0.5/setup.py and replacing ext_modules = flavors['extension'] and [ Extension(korean.c._koco, [src/_koco.c]), Extension(korean.c.hangul, [src/hangul.c]), ] or []) at the end of the module with ext_modules = []) -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] bouncing unwanted guests, et al
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: On a more Mailman-specific note, I have a list, [EMAIL PROTECTED] set up for my wife's business, and I constantly get bounce notices, from all sorts of strange people trying to post to her list. I likely receive 20 to 40 per day, just to her list. How do I deflect those, or is just the fact that Mailman is bouncing them and not letting through, evidence enough that it's working? What are these notices? If they are unrecognized bounces, they may result from spam to the list-bounces address. If so, filtering before they reach Mailman will help. You can also just turn off bounce_unrecognized_goes_to_list_owner for the list. They can also be unrecognized real bounces resulting from rejects or holds of posts by non-members. Pre-filtering will help here too as will discarding rather than holding or rejecting non-member posts if you want to go that route. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Un-disabling all members
Patrick Bogen wrote: On 4/3/06, Tim Arney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: members have been disabled. I was wondering if there's a way to automatically un-disable all the members, ideally through the web interface or through some email command? There's no email or web way to to this automatically. If that's not possible, is there some sort of shell command that I can ask my domain host to execute? snip There is probably some with_list magic or somesuch that can be used, as well Yes, there is withlist magic. See the post at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2006-February/049447.html for the withlist script, complete with instructions. This will have to be run as a command on the Mailman host box by either the mailman user or root. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10
Kent Taylor wrote: Thank you again. Same option --without-extension not recognized error. in response to ... so instead try editing ... By which I meant put the Makefile back the way it originally was and then edit the Korean setup.py. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Detailed reports of members
BG Mahesh wrote: How do check how many [and who] members are in HELD state? If HELD means 'nomail' or 'delivery disabled', bin/list_members --nomail or bin/list_members --nomail=bybounce or see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.062.htp It would be nice to see something like Normal: xx Held: yy Does this mean delivery disabled? Unsubscribed: zz How do I identify an unsubscribed member? Isn't that an oxymoron? Waiting for confirmation: aa What is this? A pending subscription? -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10
Oh, sorry. Done. Back to the original error now. Thank you once again. /kpt From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 4/3/2006 2:03 PM To: Kent Taylor; mailman-users@python.org Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] Problem Installing on Solaris 10 Kent Taylor wrote: Thank you again. Same option --without-extension not recognized error. in response to ... so instead try editing ... By which I meant put the Makefile back the way it originally was and then edit the Korean setup.py. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron setup
In a flurry of recycled electrons, Mark Sapiro wrote: Do the other scripts in /etc/cron.daily run? This is not the normal way to run a script with cron. The normal way is to put an entry in the crontab of the user that specifies what to run and when. See 'man crontab' and 'man 5 crontab'. In some versions of linux, it is used to run things hourly/daily/ weekly/monthly. I see it in both suse and redhat with things like logrotate, tripwire, and makewhatis. OTOH, none of my bsd systems are set up this way. Either way, it's not really a mailman question. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Cron setup
On 4/3/06, Carl Zwanzig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In some versions of linux, it is used to run things hourly/daily/ weekly/monthly. I see it in both suse and redhat with things like logrotate, tripwire, and makewhatis. OTOH, none of my bsd systems are set up this way. For the sake of posterity, Debian also includes these directories, and the run-parts commands in /etc/crontab to make the magic happen. -- - Patrick Bogen -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Insert customized Reply-To in welcome letter?
My list serves a membership whose cross-section could be described as casual residential computer users that won't pay close attention to written instructions and have little patience when learning technology that is new to them. Very frequently, they'll receive their new member acknowledgement letter and they'll attempt to do their first post by simply replying to it... which sends something to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then they take offense over the resulting confusion and they won't use it again. I am aware that it is possible to send a customizable autoresponder for mail received on the -request queue. The trouble with that is that I, as administrator, won't learn about the incident so I don't have opportunity to do some damage control and take the edge off of any offense the new user may take, and explain more to the new user on a personal basis. So... my thought is to put a Reply-To header in the welcome letter that simply refers to my own email. That way, if they make the mistake of replying to the welcome letter I can catch it and handle as I see fit. Can you tell me where to look in the code to make this change, that is, put a Reply-To header in the welcome letter. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Insert customized Reply-To in welcome letter?
Paul Aitkenhead wrote:
So... my thought is to put a Reply-To header in the
welcome letter that simply refers to my own email. That
way, if they make the mistake of replying to the welcome
letter I can catch it and handle as I see fit.
Can you tell me where to look in the code to make this
change, that is, put a Reply-To header in the welcome
letter.
There are a couple of ways to do this. You could look at the
UserNotification class in Mailman/Message.py and in it's __init__()
method, add another argument, say replyto=None, to the end of the
argument list and then add
if replyto:
self['Reply-To'] = replyto
to the body of the definition.
Then in Mailman/Deliverer.py in the definition of SendSubscribeAck(),
you could change
msg = Message.UserNotification(
self.GetMemberAdminEmail(name), self.GetRequestEmail(),
_('Welcome to the %(realname)s mailing list%(digmode)s'),
text, pluser)
to
msg = Message.UserNotification(
self.GetMemberAdminEmail(name), self.GetRequestEmail(),
_('Welcome to the %(realname)s mailing list%(digmode)s'),
text, pluser, self.GetOwnerEmail())
to add Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the message.
Or, you could not change UserNotification at all and just change the
call in SendSubscribeAck to
msg = Message.UserNotification(
self.GetMemberAdminEmail(name), self.GetOwnerEmail(),
_('Welcome to the %(realname)s mailing list%(digmode)s'),
text, pluser)
to make the message be From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Of course, either of these will affect all lists in this installation.
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San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan
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[Mailman-Users] Please Advise...
Hello, First MailMan is a great system and I have just now after a very long time using the system ran until an issue. Setup a new list and when we sent out a message on it, it was repeated to the members upwards of 15 times. Please advise what you think could have made this happen as for I have never had this happen before. Mark Schlaudraff -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] question
Thanks so much for the free mailing lists! We thoroughly enjoy your generosity. I have a subscriber who has not been receiving his digest for several weeks. He said he has checked and it is not blocked from his end. I unsubscribed him and resubscribed him but he still isn't receiving digests. Is there a helps page we can visit to see what the problem may be? Thank you, Edith Smith ButterflyMarket mailing list . ButterflyFarming[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://butterflymarket.com/mailman/options/butterflyfarming_butterflymarket .com/asc--at--tznet.com Richard Breen Don't forget to order your free butterfly eggs and free butterfly plant seeds! Edith Smith Shady Oak Butterfly Farm Butterflies for Every Occasion! Celebratory Releases ~ Easter Releases ~ Memorial Releases Graduation Releases ~ Baby and Bridal Shower Releases ~ Anniversary Releases Teacher and Student Projects ~ 4-H and Science Fair Projects ~ Home School Projects 352-485-2459 12876 SW CR 231, Brooker, FL 32622 http://www.buyabutterfly.com/ www.buyabutterfly.com http://www.butterflybride.com/ www.butterflybride.com http://www.freebutterflyeggs.com/ www.freebutterflyeggs.com http://www.teachingwithmonarchs.com/ www.teachingwithmonarchs.com http://www.memorialbutterflies.com/ www.memorialbutterflies.com http://www.butterfliesandprayers.com/ www.butterfliesandprayers.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] question
Edith wrote: I have a subscriber who has not been receiving his digest for several weeks. He said he has checked and it is not blocked from his end. I unsubscribed him and resubscribed him but he still isn't receiving digests. If this is only one subscriber and the list is working normally for others including other digest subscribers, then it is almost certainly a mail delivery problem outside of Mailman. To diagnose the problem, you need to look at things like Mailman's 'bounce' and 'smtp-failure' logs and the logs of the outgoing MTA. If your Mailman is hosted somewhere, this is something the hosting provider would have to do. Even the above logs may not reveal any problem as the mail may be blocked or discarded, regardless of what his ISP told him, without notice back to the sender. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Detailed reports of members
On 4/3/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BG Mahesh wrote: How do check how many [and who] members are in HELD state? If HELD means 'nomail' or 'delivery disabled', Yes, problem is that I am using Lyris lingo. Had been using it for 7 years before switching over to Mailman bin/list_members --nomail or bin/list_members --nomail=bybounce or see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.062.htp It would be nice to see something like Normal: xx Held: yy Does this mean delivery disabled? Yes Unsubscribed: zz How do I identify an unsubscribed member? Isn't that an oxymoron? In Lyris unless you delete the member the unsusbscribed info also is in the database. Waiting for confirmation: aa What is this? A pending subscription? Yes, pending subscription. Can the list owner get a weekly report by email of the activity [how many signed on/off etc]? -- -- B.G. Mahesh -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Detailed reports of members
BG Mahesh wrote: On 4/3/06, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BG Mahesh wrote: It would be nice to see something like Normal: xx Held: yy Does this mean delivery disabled? Yes Unsubscribed: zz How do I identify an unsubscribed member? Isn't that an oxymoron? In Lyris unless you delete the member the unsusbscribed info also is in the database. Waiting for confirmation: aa What is this? A pending subscription? Yes, pending subscription. Can the list owner get a weekly report by email of the activity [how many signed on/off etc]? It would be possible to modify the bin/list_members script to produce a report similar to the above showing the numbers of list members in different categories and the number of pending subscriptions although this last information would be obtained differently from the membership categories. The modified script could email results to the list-owner address for example and could be run periodically via cron. I'm not aware of any existing script for this. List activity of various types would have to be gleaned from Mailman's log files. Brad Knowles has developed a Mailman Daily Status Report script, the latest version of which is in Mailman 2.1.8b1 in the contrib directory along with a readme or in CVS at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/mailman/mailman/contrib/. This is a Bourne shell script that could serve as an exampl of other kinds of log analysis that can be done. -- Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
