Re: [MlMt] keeping sent mail with other mail
Shoshanna Green 2015-02-17 15:02 wrote: But this morning it occurred to me that MMate's experimental 2.0 feature of Rules lets me just set up a rule on my Sent Messages mailbox that says to move all incoming messages to my Inbox! So simple. So obvious. I used to have a lot of rules that moved both received and sent mails to folders per person/company/project etc. Always fretting where to stora mail, "Is this more project or company or ". With MailMate I dump everything I have processed in to "Archive" and let all sent mails stay in "Sent". Quick and easy. I then use MailMates (really) Smart folders to organise all mails (received and sent) according to person/company/project. With Smart folders one mail can "be in" several folders, person and project e.g. Many Smart folders are simply this: Mailboxes: All Messages Conditions: Any Address -> Domain is "example.com" MailMates smart folders and custom keybindings are for me its killer features. That's fine if all your messages for a particular smart folder have some common factor, such as a mailing list name. But what happens when the mailing list changes its name or host or something? Or if a project you are working on gets mail messages from random people. These sorts of message I file manually because no rule could ever pick them up reliably. How could smart folders work in these cases? I have been using e-mail for far too many years and have come across these situations too many times to be able to rely on smart folders to find what I want. Cheers David ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] keeping sent mail with other mail
On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:17, Marco Carmosino wrote: Hi all, I actually had a fantastically helpful conversation on this mailing list that led to the following smart folder, "Threaded Inbox", which always has threading turned on: Any of: All of: Thread-id is in Inbox Thread-id Source > Path is Inbox/Sent Messages Message-id is not in Mailing Lists Message-Id All of: Thread-id is in Inbox Thread-id Source > Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages This has the effect of including whole conversations in my inbox so that my replies are included in threads (by sourcing from Sent Mail) and filtering out duplicates from mailing lists (by using the message-ids in the Mailing Lists smart folder), without BCCing myself or anything. I found this very interesting, but I had a question. How does one set up the entries: Source > Path is Inbox/Sent Messages or Source > Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages in either of the two lines above? For me, Source > Path is Inbox/Sent Messages causes the first "ALL" to not generate any emails, and in the second "ALL", the same emails are listed whether or not Source > Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages is in there. So I am guessing that I am making some error in how I set it up. Thank you, Ed___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] keeping sent mail with other mail
Hi all, I actually had a fantastically helpful conversation on this mailing list that led to the following smart folder, "Threaded Inbox", which always has threading turned on: Any of: All of: Thread-id is in Inbox Thread-id Source > Path is Inbox/Sent Messages Message-id is not in Mailing Lists Message-Id All of: Thread-id is in Inbox Thread-id Source > Path is not Inbox/Sent Messages This has the effect of including whole conversations in my inbox so that my replies are included in threads (by sourcing from Sent Mail) and filtering out duplicates from mailing lists (by using the message-ids in the Mailing Lists smart folder), without BCCing myself or anything. Admittedly is is heavily reliant on MailMate's intelligence. But, I figure, stuff like this is exactly why I got the program. best, -- Marco On 17 Feb 2015, at 17:29, Shoshanna Green wrote: On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:09 PM, Allie Martin wrote: On 17 Feb 2015, at 9:02, Shoshanna Green wrote: For three decades, I've kept track of my outgoing mail by BCC:ing myself. How do you deal with list messages where a duplicate is sent back to you? Do you disable that feature on the mail server if you can? Or do you simply tolerate the duplications? Yes, exactly. It's much less of a problem than having conversations split in half! -- Shoshanna Green shoshan...@gmail.com ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] keeping sent mail with other mail
On 2015-02-18 02:24, Fredrik Jonsson wrote: I used to have a lot of rules that moved both received and sent mails to folders per person/company/project etc. Always fretting where to stora mail, "Is this more project or company or …". With MailMate I dump everything I have processed in to "Archive" and let all sent mails stay in "Sent". Quick and easy. True, and MailMate's smart folder feature is indeed a thing of beauty. However, after twenty years of using and dealing with email, of having loved Eudora until it expired, of having been forced to use Outlook under various flavors of Windows, of having used Apple Mail until its integration with Gmail broke horribly, and finally having moved my mail from Gmail to a personal host with MailMate as my primary (but not unique) mail access program, I'm not willing to file my mail in such a way that *only* MailMate will be able to intelligently retrieve it for me. My mail client must be smart enough to file my mail where I can find it without the use of my preferred mail client. And so I depend on rules. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Server unavailable
On 18 Feb 2015, at 10:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Logs can be found in the “Activity Viewer” (⌥⌘0). If you open that window and relaunch MailMate to make sure connecting to the account is retried then you can use “Help ▸ Send Server Logs” to let me review the problem. (Note that logging is only enabled when the activity window is open.) Things seem OK again. If the problem recurs, I'll send the logs. — Curtis acm ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Submailbox string format
On 18 Feb 2015, at 10:43, Mike Brasch wrote:
I'm trying to make the names of submailboxes are named by their folder
without the full path. Currently I'm using the default
${#source.path.noinbox}
which leads into folder names like
Mailinglisten/MailMate
Now I want remove the "Mailinglisten/". How can I do this.
You can use a regular expression in the format string like this:
${#source.path.noinbox/Mailinglisten\///}
It says, replace `Mailinglisten/` with the empty string. It becomes a
bit unreadably because of the escaped `"/"` character.
Maybe a feature request: it would be very helpful to have something
like a code completion menu to see an overview of the possible values
(what is the correct name for this?).
My first step should probably be to document the feature :-)
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Re: [MlMt] Server unavailable
On 18 Feb 2015, at 1:20, Allie Martin wrote: If an source comes up with mailboxes as 'unavailable', what does this mean? That something went wrong with the connection and MailMate is going to try again later. “Later” is a very short time at first, but it increases if it continues to fail. This handles all kinds of server and network issues. One of my accounts has all the mailboxes as 'unavailable'. I connect to the account using my iPhone just fine. There is a known issue with Gmail for some users on some networks. I still haven't resolved that. The activity viewer isn't at all 'verbose' on the matter so I have no idea what's happening. Any logs that I can check? Logs can be found in the “Activity Viewer” (⌥⌘0). If you open that window and relaunch MailMate to make sure connecting to the account is retried then you can use “Help ▸ Send Server Logs” to let me review the problem. (Note that logging is only enabled when the activity window is open.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Searching by Content-Type.
On 18 Feb 2015, at 1:41, Scott A. McIntyre wrote: What's the best way to search my messages for: Content-Type: text/calendar; charset="utf-8"; method=REQUEST Or Content-Type: text/calendar; charset="utf-8"; method=CANCEL (or any other method) I'm trying to find all messages which contain meeting invitations. Most seem to appear as "Attachment.ics" in MailMate, but I can't seem to get the search for calendar entries to work for any of the Content-Type search options... When searching for a specific `Content-Type` in a *subpart* of a message then you must enable “All Body Parts” in the comparison popup menu. Then I believe it should work for you. (MailMate could/should be better at enabling it by default for typical subpart headers.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] Submailbox string format
Moin Moin!
I'm trying to make the names of submailboxes are named by their folder
without the full path. Currently I'm using the default
${#source.path.noinbox}
which leads into folder names like
Mailinglisten/MailMate
Now I want remove the "Mailinglisten/". How can I do this.
Maybe a feature request: it would be very helpful to have something like
a code completion menu to see an overview of the possible values (what
is the correct name for this?).
--
Gruß
Mike
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Re: [MlMt] keeping sent mail with other mail
Shoshanna Green 2015-02-17 15:02 wrote: But this morning it occurred to me that MMate's experimental 2.0 feature of Rules lets me just set up a rule on my Sent Messages mailbox that says to move all incoming messages to my Inbox! So simple. So obvious. I used to have a lot of rules that moved both received and sent mails to folders per person/company/project etc. Always fretting where to stora mail, "Is this more project or company or …". With MailMate I dump everything I have processed in to "Archive" and let all sent mails stay in "Sent". Quick and easy. I then use MailMates (really) Smart folders to organise all mails (received and sent) according to person/company/project. With Smart folders one mail can "be in" several folders, person and project e.g. Many Smart folders are simply this: Mailboxes: All Messages Conditions: Any Address -> Domain is "example.com" MailMates smart folders and custom keybindings are for me its killer features. Fredrik ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
