[libreoffice-marketing] The video for LibreOffice miniconf Tokyo
Hi, I changed the subject of the mail to make clear what we're talking about. Anyway, May I ask when we'll get the video for our miniconf? Someone already have it taken in FOSDEM, right? Our miniconf will be held 23th Feb. JST, so I want to use this weekend to prepare the event, for example, adding Japanese caption on the video. Of course I'll be happy that I will get it earlier, but I don't want to rush all of you; lots of works you might have. I only want to know current status. Thanks, -- Naruhiko Ogasawara (naru...@gmail.com) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Enterprise adoption of LibreOffice
On 02/13/2013 07:03 PM, C. Olofson wrote: On 2/13/2013 3:55 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 02/13/2013 06:38 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 2/14/13 12:18 AM, Jay Lozier wrote: Interesting, if MS became aware that say few large city that currently use MSO were considering LO they might make FUD attacks on LO. I do not know exactly how the MS support agreements work (I would assume something like $x / person for a years with option to renew) but non renewal would be a very good indication someone is switching to something else. Only a few large MS Office users have support agreements, because they already spend a large amount of money on licenses, but Microsoft visits them at least twice a year to try to sell on top of licenses. They use every opportunity to provide competitive marketing materials, and the fact that several users do not want to speak about migrations is due to the fact that they would immediately receive the visit of Microsoft sales people, who - in some cases - would try to discredit the CIO with his management because of the choice to use free software. Microsoft is very effective, although they are losign grip with their market because of their attitude. What is a typical license term? Years ago I worked closely with my company's sales team. What I noticed it was better to sell your products "features and benefits" and say nothing about your competitors unless directly asked by the customer. Then be very careful what you say to avoid antagonizing the customer and be very factual. I worked with chemical equipment manufacturers and our customers where often chemical engineers. The long term problem with FUD tactics is it risks one's creditability by becoming a known liar. It may take awhile. I can't speak to licensing terms but with respect to adoption of anything other than MSO: in my (limited) experience with both companies and non-profits, most resistance to moving away from MSO comes from the workers who use MSO. It doesn't matter whether one has a better non-free app (Wordperfect), a better cloud solution (Google Apps) or whether one can articulate the beauty of free-as-in-free-speech: Change, for most end users, is to be avoided in the extreme. Most of the users I have seen in the corporate/academic world are not computer literate and fear any change. To compound matters they have no interest in becoming marginally literate. Try explaining how to import a csv file into a spreadsheet when the person fears Excel; lots of fun. That attitude, in my opinion, is the biggest barrier to LibO adoption; even bigger than MS' fud machine. I think the real issue is user attitudes are reinforced by FUD. Often you see people say you can not do something on the web unless you have Windows or a Mac but Linux usually works just as well but the FUD plays on user ignorance of how websites actually work. Once the spell is broken, then credibility is lost. fwiw, -Craig -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Enterprise adoption of LibreOffice
On 2/13/2013 3:55 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 02/13/2013 06:38 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 2/14/13 12:18 AM, Jay Lozier wrote: Interesting, if MS became aware that say few large city that currently use MSO were considering LO they might make FUD attacks on LO. I do not know exactly how the MS support agreements work (I would assume something like $x / person for a years with option to renew) but non renewal would be a very good indication someone is switching to something else. Only a few large MS Office users have support agreements, because they already spend a large amount of money on licenses, but Microsoft visits them at least twice a year to try to sell on top of licenses. They use every opportunity to provide competitive marketing materials, and the fact that several users do not want to speak about migrations is due to the fact that they would immediately receive the visit of Microsoft sales people, who - in some cases - would try to discredit the CIO with his management because of the choice to use free software. Microsoft is very effective, although they are losign grip with their market because of their attitude. What is a typical license term? Years ago I worked closely with my company's sales team. What I noticed it was better to sell your products "features and benefits" and say nothing about your competitors unless directly asked by the customer. Then be very careful what you say to avoid antagonizing the customer and be very factual. I worked with chemical equipment manufacturers and our customers where often chemical engineers. The long term problem with FUD tactics is it risks one's creditability by becoming a known liar. It may take awhile. I can't speak to licensing terms but with respect to adoption of anything other than MSO: in my (limited) experience with both companies and non-profits, most resistance to moving away from MSO comes from the workers who use MSO. It doesn't matter whether one has a better non-free app (Wordperfect), a better cloud solution (Google Apps) or whether one can articulate the beauty of free-as-in-free-speech: Change, for most end users, is to be avoided in the extreme. That attitude, in my opinion, is the biggest barrier to LibO adoption; even bigger than MS' fud machine. fwiw, -Craig -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing]
if i may ask if we may make a list of these publications? i am asking as i am pitching for airtime on a local tv tech tv show to spot light LO (since they where spotlighting lotus and MS offfice) and has anyone made any artworks/advert like material even if their fan made or user based. not to aliantate but i just wanted to point out that we need to make more resources so when push comes to show we have quick and ready material say for TV/RADIO Best Regards Warren Camilleri Founding Father Mobile: +356 7991 2004 Skype: ossmalta1 | Twitter: warren_oss | Facebook: OSSMALTA Also a member of MLUG , The Document Foundation , Ubuntu Malta - Original Message - From: "Italo Vignoli" To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:40:43 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] On 2/12/13 12:36 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > I have about three interviews that are ready to be published from > devs and localizers. I can starto to publish them as of today but if > you have a better timing in mind please let me know. Go whenever you feel right to go. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Enterprise adoption of LibreOffice
On 02/13/2013 06:38 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 2/14/13 12:18 AM, Jay Lozier wrote: Interesting, if MS became aware that say few large city that currently use MSO were considering LO they might make FUD attacks on LO. I do not know exactly how the MS support agreements work (I would assume something like $x / person for a years with option to renew) but non renewal would be a very good indication someone is switching to something else. Only a few large MS Office users have support agreements, because they already spend a large amount of money on licenses, but Microsoft visits them at least twice a year to try to sell on top of licenses. They use every opportunity to provide competitive marketing materials, and the fact that several users do not want to speak about migrations is due to the fact that they would immediately receive the visit of Microsoft sales people, who - in some cases - would try to discredit the CIO with his management because of the choice to use free software. Microsoft is very effective, although they are losign grip with their market because of their attitude. What is a typical license term? Years ago I worked closely with my company's sales team. What I noticed it was better to sell your products "features and benefits" and say nothing about your competitors unless directly asked by the customer. Then be very careful what you say to avoid antagonizing the customer and be very factual. I worked with chemical equipment manufacturers and our customers where often chemical engineers. The long term problem with FUD tactics is it risks one's creditability by becoming a known liar. It may take awhile. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Enterprise adoption of LibreOffice
On 2/14/13 12:18 AM, Jay Lozier wrote: > Interesting, if MS became aware that say few large city that currently > use MSO were considering LO they might make FUD attacks on LO. I do not > know exactly how the MS support agreements work (I would assume > something like $x / person for a years with option to renew) but non > renewal would be a very good indication someone is switching to > something else. Only a few large MS Office users have support agreements, because they already spend a large amount of money on licenses, but Microsoft visits them at least twice a year to try to sell on top of licenses. They use every opportunity to provide competitive marketing materials, and the fact that several users do not want to speak about migrations is due to the fact that they would immediately receive the visit of Microsoft sales people, who - in some cases - would try to discredit the CIO with his management because of the choice to use free software. Microsoft is very effective, although they are losign grip with their market because of their attitude. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Enterprise adoption of LibreOffice
On 02/13/2013 05:39 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 2/12/13 4:19 PM, Jeff Fortin wrote: The big question on my mind remains: do we know of government bodies that are currently "looking into it" (migrating from Office/proprietary solutions) but have not yet made the move? Or do we typically only know about that once they've already started/made the switch? I try to guess percentages, based on my experience: we know in advance (20%), we know when they are starting to make the switch (20%), we know when they start to have the first problems (20%), we never know (40%). This is why it is very important to raise the awareness of support opportunities. Interesting, if MS became aware that say few large city that currently use MSO were considering LO they might make FUD attacks on LO. I do not know exactly how the MS support agreements work (I would assume something like $x / person for a years with option to renew) but non renewal would be a very good indication someone is switching to something else. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing]
On 2/12/13 12:36 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > I have about three interviews that are ready to be published from > devs and localizers. I can starto to publish them as of today but if > you have a better timing in mind please let me know. Go whenever you feel right to go. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Enterprise adoption of LibreOffice
On 2/12/13 4:19 PM, Jeff Fortin wrote: > The big question on my mind remains: do we know of government bodies > that are currently "looking into it" (migrating from Office/proprietary > solutions) but have not yet made the move? Or do we typically only know > about that once they've already started/made the switch? I try to guess percentages, based on my experience: we know in advance (20%), we know when they are starting to make the switch (20%), we know when they start to have the first problems (20%), we never know (40%). This is why it is very important to raise the awareness of support opportunities. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wikipedia editing.
Hi Dave, I think it's also worth keeping an eye on related pages and making sure the treatment of LibreOffice is fair and balanced. For example, instead of having http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org and covering the history of the project and pointing to its successors, the page just redirects to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice - something that to me at least seems to embody a partial point of view. At the very least the talk pages need following and citable sources contributed. Cheers, S. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Dave Johnson wrote: > FYI, I have full edit access on Wikipedia. I would be happy to edit the > LibreOffice article. > > Sent from my iPad. > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- *Simon Phipps* http://webmink.com *Meshed Insights & Knowledge * *Office:* +1 (415) 683-7660 *or* +44 (238) 098 7027 *Mobile*: +44 774 776 2816* * -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Wikipedia editing.
Hi Craig, On 13/02/2013 19:54, Craig Olofson wrote: > Jeff; > > Sophie does flesh out in a bit more detail who, in the French > government, are using LibreOffice but there are still no numbers. > Googling only finds unattributed "500 000." I'll keep looking but, > until then, here's the fuller story: > > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/msg03450.html It's in the article I pointed : Today, nine ministries compose the core of the working group: Energy (Ecologie), Defence (Défense), Interior (Intérieur), Justice, Agriculture, Culture and Communication, Education and Finance. MIMO's open source office tools can potentially be deployed on 500 000 desktops, where OpenOffice is already installed. The Interior Ministry is responsible for the largest deployment project, with 240 000 desktops. Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier Tel:+33683901545 Membership & Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Wikipedia editing.
Jeff; Sophie does flesh out in a bit more detail who, in the French government, are using LibreOffice but there are still no numbers. Googling only finds unattributed "500 000." I'll keep looking but, until then, here's the fuller story: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/msg03450.html On 02/13/2013 10:26 AM, Sophie Gautier wrote: On 13/02/2013 19:05, Jeff Fortin wrote: You may have missed Sophie's post? Try here: [http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/mimo/] Is this it? Ah, not really... this website is only about downloading premade libreoffice bundles (or learning the tech specs of the bundles). It is not a (citeable) announcement of a mass deployment (with numbers and all that). Most of the ministries using this version a cited on this site which is the one for official publication by the French government. You won't find anything else in France. The European commission has however a publication here https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/elibrary/case/mimo-working-group-french-ministries-certify-libreoffice-release-0 Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Wikipedia editing.
On 13/02/2013 19:05, Jeff Fortin wrote: > >> You may have missed Sophie's post? Try here: >> [http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/mimo/] >> >> Is this it? > > Ah, not really... this website is only about downloading premade > libreoffice bundles (or learning the tech specs of the bundles). It is > not a (citeable) announcement of a mass deployment (with numbers and all > that). Most of the ministries using this version a cited on this site which is the one for official publication by the French government. You won't find anything else in France. The European commission has however a publication here https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/elibrary/case/mimo-working-group-french-ministries-certify-libreoffice-release-0 Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier Tel:+33683901545 Membership & Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Wikipedia editing.
> You may have missed Sophie's post? Try here: > [http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/mimo/] > > Is this it? Ah, not really... this website is only about downloading premade libreoffice bundles (or learning the tech specs of the bundles). It is not a (citeable) announcement of a mass deployment (with numbers and all that). -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wikipedia editing.
Jeff, Have you checked the link Sophie sent yesterday on this list? Thanks, Charles. Jeff Fortin a écrit : >Le mardi 12 février 2013 à 18:25 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : >> > > could you add the french government's 500K desktops as well? >There >> > > are many, many others as well. >> > >> > LibreOffice, not OOo? >> > Well I'd need the exact sources to cite those... can you provide >them? >> > (but then it might also be easier to add them directly yourself ;) >> >> Check the french wikipedia site; the reference is there, and yes it's >> LibreOffice. > >Nope, it isn't there... there is no deployment section on >http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice , no mention of France per se >nor the figure "500"... The closest I have is in the English version >where we already cite the Île-de-France region putting LO on a USB >flash >drive to be given to students. > > >-- >Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted -- Envoyé de mon téléphone avec Kaiten Mail. Excusez la brièveté. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wikipedia editing.
Jeff, Have you checked the link Sophie sent yesterday on this list? Thanks, Charles. Jeff Fortin a écrit : >Le mardi 12 février 2013 à 18:25 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : >> > > could you add the french government's 500K desktops as well? >There >> > > are many, many others as well. >> > >> > LibreOffice, not OOo? >> > Well I'd need the exact sources to cite those... can you provide >them? >> > (but then it might also be easier to add them directly yourself ;) >> >> Check the french wikipedia site; the reference is there, and yes it's >> LibreOffice. > >Nope, it isn't there... there is no deployment section on >http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice , no mention of France per se >nor the figure "500"... The closest I have is in the English version >where we already cite the Île-de-France region putting LO on a USB >flash >drive to be given to students. > > >-- >Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to >marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: >http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >deleted -- Envoyé de mon téléphone avec Kaiten Mail. Excusez la brièveté. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Wikipedia editing.
Le 2013-02-13 11:56, Jeff Fortin a écrit : Le mardi 12 février 2013 à 18:25 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : could you add the french government's 500K desktops as well? There are many, many others as well. LibreOffice, not OOo? Well I'd need the exact sources to cite those... can you provide them? (but then it might also be easier to add them directly yourself ;) Check the french wikipedia site; the reference is there, and yes it's LibreOffice. Nope, it isn't there... there is no deployment section on http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice , no mention of France per se nor the figure "500"... The closest I have is in the English version where we already cite the Île-de-France region putting LO on a USB flash drive to be given to students. You may have missed Sophie's post? Try here: [http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/mimo/] Is this it? Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] [ACTION ITEM -- ORGANIZE LIBREOFFICE MAGAZINE INTERNATIONAL] Re: Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released
Le 2013-02-13 11:51, Eliane Domingos de Sousa a écrit : Hi Marc, Well, I think we need to try. I'll write the instructions and post in the wiki. I need time for that. I think I can do that until March 01. Best OK I'll try to contact the people on that list and see if they are still interested. I'll leave a note on the wiki next to their name if they are still interested and those who are not, I will delete their name from the page. For the rest of the marketing team (yup, if you are reading this, then you signed up on this list to help out!) Feel free to post your name on the wiki page and also with the kind of role you can play on the magazine production. I will ad this to our wiki easy hacks page as some of the work is actually not that difficult. Just maybe a little time-consuming. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released
On 02/13/2013 11:04 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2013-02-13 09:57, Eliane Domingos de Sousa a écrit : Hi, In fact, it's my dream! But I need volunteers to help us. Today, only me and Vera are doing the diagramation. We have 3 volunteers to do the review. My ideia when I share the project and the file ODG file is to stimulate the others countries to create the magazine others languages and others matters. About the language, we have the same problem, we have to translate all the materials created in English for Portuguese. We need to translate the software, the post of blogs and the manuals. We have very few volunteers to help with translation. I hope you don't be upset with me. If we had more volunteers helping, we would certainly have an English version. Best This item comes up every 6 months or so. We put together a team, but, it gets stalled every time we tried to get it off the ground. You can find the link, of course, on our marketing wiki page in the "Generic Stuff" section[1] and the team members of LibreOffice Magazine International have all signed up. It has been a while, so all of the participants would have to be re-contacted to verify their involvement. We would need mentorship from the BR-Pt team to help set up the structure and guide us with the ins/outs of using Draw. The commitment, is the same as the BR-PT team, the magazine must use LibreOffice as its publication tool. I had put my name down as a helper, but as in all thing, we would need a strong commitment from at least a couple of individuals who would work at it consistently in order to publish the magazine on a regular basis. Should we try again? Anyone saying yes to this should commit to working on the magazine! It is easy to give a +1 / Yes and whatever, but we need people to help and contribute rather than keep suggesting and then back away and watch the discussions fizzle and die! Marc [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing We really NEED something like this BR-PT magazine for English and the other "major" languages. It would be a real helper to our marketing work to have something like this. Since I do not read their language, I just looked at the design and I really think it would work for the younger users, or "younger at heart" users. College age and younger. If I could read the text, then I might see that it could be for other users as well, but I cannot. The design look and feel is really great. If we could just get enough people together to create such a magazine for English, it would be something I could use as a potential item to hand out or at least have them as part of the promotional web pages for LO. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Wikipedia editing.
Le mardi 12 février 2013 à 18:25 +0100, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : > > > could you add the french government's 500K desktops as well? There > > > are many, many others as well. > > > > LibreOffice, not OOo? > > Well I'd need the exact sources to cite those... can you provide them? > > (but then it might also be easier to add them directly yourself ;) > > Check the french wikipedia site; the reference is there, and yes it's > LibreOffice. Nope, it isn't there... there is no deployment section on http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice , no mention of France per se nor the figure "500"... The closest I have is in the English version where we already cite the Île-de-France region putting LO on a USB flash drive to be given to students. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released
Hi Marc, Well, I think we need to try. I'll write the instructions and post in the wiki. I need time for that. I think I can do that until March 01. Best -- Eliane Domingos de Sousa Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil | Brazilian LibreOffice Community Membro da TDF | TDF Member Liberte-se, para editar textos, planilhas e apresentações use http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/ é totalmente de graça. Experimente o sistema de perguntas e respostas da Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil:http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions Mensagem original De: Marc Paré Para: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Assunto: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released Data: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:04:13 -0500 Le 2013-02-13 09:57, Eliane Domingos de Sousa a écrit : > Hi, > > In fact, it's my dream! But I need volunteers to help us. Today, only me > and Vera are doing the diagramation. We have 3 volunteers to do the > review. > > My ideia when I share the project and the file ODG file is to stimulate > the others countries to create the magazine others languages and others > matters. > > About the language, we have the same problem, we have to translate all > the materials created in English for Portuguese. We need to translate > the software, the post of blogs and the manuals. We have very few > volunteers to help with translation. > > I hope you don't be upset with me. If we had more volunteers helping, we > would certainly have an English version. > > Best This item comes up every 6 months or so. We put together a team, but, it gets stalled every time we tried to get it off the ground. You can find the link, of course, on our marketing wiki page in the "Generic Stuff" section[1] and the team members of LibreOffice Magazine International have all signed up. It has been a while, so all of the participants would have to be re-contacted to verify their involvement. We would need mentorship from the BR-Pt team to help set up the structure and guide us with the ins/outs of using Draw. The commitment, is the same as the BR-PT team, the magazine must use LibreOffice as its publication tool. I had put my name down as a helper, but as in all thing, we would need a strong commitment from at least a couple of individuals who would work at it consistently in order to publish the magazine on a regular basis. Should we try again? Anyone saying yes to this should commit to working on the magazine! It is easy to give a +1 / Yes and whatever, but we need people to help and contribute rather than keep suggesting and then back away and watch the discussions fizzle and die! Marc [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released
Le 2013-02-13 05:24, Eliane Domingos de Sousa a écrit : Dear Community, I'm proud to announce the third release of Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine. I wanna thanks all the collaborators, because without them, there is no magazine. The magazine is only in Portuguese, if you want to share our project, we'll be very happy. Download pdf file: http://dc671.4shared.com/download/k_TgxH8J/LM-ED03.pdf Download odg file: http://dc667.4shared.com/download/N_A-r9yI/LM-ED03.odg Thanks very much for give us the best free office. Best, Once again! The PT-BR constantly amaze us with your contributions to the LibreOffice project. Many thanks and congrats to the magazine team! I actually downloaded the .odg file and read it this way. It is amazing what you can do with Draw and how much of a professional output it gives! Wonderful and thanks again for the great magazine! Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released
Le 2013-02-13 09:57, Eliane Domingos de Sousa a écrit : Hi, In fact, it's my dream! But I need volunteers to help us. Today, only me and Vera are doing the diagramation. We have 3 volunteers to do the review. My ideia when I share the project and the file ODG file is to stimulate the others countries to create the magazine others languages and others matters. About the language, we have the same problem, we have to translate all the materials created in English for Portuguese. We need to translate the software, the post of blogs and the manuals. We have very few volunteers to help with translation. I hope you don't be upset with me. If we had more volunteers helping, we would certainly have an English version. Best This item comes up every 6 months or so. We put together a team, but, it gets stalled every time we tried to get it off the ground. You can find the link, of course, on our marketing wiki page in the "Generic Stuff" section[1] and the team members of LibreOffice Magazine International have all signed up. It has been a while, so all of the participants would have to be re-contacted to verify their involvement. We would need mentorship from the BR-Pt team to help set up the structure and guide us with the ins/outs of using Draw. The commitment, is the same as the BR-PT team, the magazine must use LibreOffice as its publication tool. I had put my name down as a helper, but as in all thing, we would need a strong commitment from at least a couple of individuals who would work at it consistently in order to publish the magazine on a regular basis. Should we try again? Anyone saying yes to this should commit to working on the magazine! It is easy to give a +1 / Yes and whatever, but we need people to help and contribute rather than keep suggesting and then back away and watch the discussions fizzle and die! Marc [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released
Hi Eliane, Am 13.02.2013 11:24, schrieb Eliane Domingos de Sousa: > Dear Community, > > I'm proud to announce the third release of Brazilian LibreOffice > Magazine. It looks great. Some comments from me: The whole magazine has only right pages. When I will print it as a magazine it has wrong pages on the left site. I have some bad feelings about the using of some pictures because of licenses. Do we have the right to use all the pictures in a printing? I don't know if it is an important point but I wouldn't use screenshots with personas like the known prehistoric squirrel (page 12) or the hearty dog (page 17) because of licenses. We should use only pictures with an open license. -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released
Hi, In fact, it's my dream! But I need volunteers to help us. Today, only me and Vera are doing the diagramation. We have 3 volunteers to do the review. My ideia when I share the project and the file ODG file is to stimulate the others countries to create the magazine others languages and others matters. About the language, we have the same problem, we have to translate all the materials created in English for Portuguese. We need to translate the software, the post of blogs and the manuals. We have very few volunteers to help with translation. I hope you don't be upset with me. If we had more volunteers helping, we would certainly have an English version. Best -- Eliane Domingos de Sousa Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil | Brazilian LibreOffice Community Membro da TDF | TDF Member Liberte-se, para editar textos, planilhas e apresentações use http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/ é totalmente de graça. Experimente o sistema de perguntas e respostas da Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil:http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions Mensagem original De: webmaster-Kracked_P_P Para: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Assunto: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released Data: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:27:16 -0500 On 02/13/2013 05:24 AM, Eliane Domingos de Sousa wrote: > Dear Community, > > I'm proud to announce the third release of Brazilian LibreOffice > Magazine. > > I wanna thanks all the collaborators, because without them, there is no > magazine. > > The magazine is only in Portuguese, if you want to share our project, > we'll be very happy. > > Download pdf file: > http://dc671.4shared.com/download/k_TgxH8J/LM-ED03.pdf > > Download odg file: > http://dc667.4shared.com/download/N_A-r9yI/LM-ED03.odg > > Thanks very much for give us the best free office. > > Best, Is it possible that someone would make such a magazine in English? It would be very usefulfor all of us who only speak/read English. The design of the magazine is such that it would be a real asset to have a version in other languages. I wonder if there are any people up to translating it. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released
On 02/13/2013 05:24 AM, Eliane Domingos de Sousa wrote: Dear Community, I'm proud to announce the third release of Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine. I wanna thanks all the collaborators, because without them, there is no magazine. The magazine is only in Portuguese, if you want to share our project, we'll be very happy. Download pdf file: http://dc671.4shared.com/download/k_TgxH8J/LM-ED03.pdf Download odg file: http://dc667.4shared.com/download/N_A-r9yI/LM-ED03.odg Thanks very much for give us the best free office. Best, Is it possible that someone would make such a magazine in English? It would be very usefulfor all of us who only speak/read English. The design of the magazine is such that it would be a real asset to have a version in other languages. I wonder if there are any people up to translating it. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Microsoft Office for Linux strong rumours and LibreOffice: What to fear about it?
Il 12/02/2013 16:20, timofonic timofonic ha scritto: Hello. As some of you probably know, there are rumours about Microsoft porting Microsoft Office to Linux. While this may not happen, there's the possibility this can someday happen. What about if it happens? What are the advantages of LibreOffice vs Microsoft Office? Despite being Free Software and at no cost (that's relative, you would still require some customer support too), I wonder about the rest of advantages LibreOffice have and if the weak points are relevant to certain organizations (NGOs, companies, government institutions...). Regards. http://www.datamation.com/applications/how-libreoffice-writer-tops-ms-word-12-features-1.html there are some strong points and weak points... costs of updates and interoperability (using multiple formats on multiple platforms) are strong points, to say. -- www.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine released
Dear Community, I'm proud to announce the third release of Brazilian LibreOffice Magazine. I wanna thanks all the collaborators, because without them, there is no magazine. The magazine is only in Portuguese, if you want to share our project, we'll be very happy. Download pdf file: http://dc671.4shared.com/download/k_TgxH8J/LM-ED03.pdf Download odg file: http://dc667.4shared.com/download/N_A-r9yI/LM-ED03.odg Thanks very much for give us the best free office. Best, -- Eliane Domingos de Sousa Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil | Brazilian LibreOffice Community Membro da TDF | TDF Member Liberte-se, para editar textos, planilhas e apresentações use http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/ é totalmente de graça. Experimente o sistema de perguntas e respostas da Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil:http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Fwd:
I have sent a note to Drew about his email spamming the lists. I am sure he does not know about this. Marc Le 2013-02-12 15:57, Drew Jensen a écrit : http://lasvegassuites.org/downrightawesome.com/nanw54.php?s=ot -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: (unknown)
Le 2013-02-12 06:36, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Italo, all, I have about three interviews that are ready to be published from devs and localizers. I can starto to publish them as of today but if you have a better timing in mind please let me know. Thanks, Charles. Seeing as you are having more success at this than I was, one suggestion is to keep going with our blog dev interviews. IMO, we get more exposure from this if we can keep posting one to two per week. If you approach the devs and can manage a steady stream of finished interviews, I can help with scheduling them for posting along a regular time cycle. We have approximately 500 devs. For example we could designate the "Wednesday" and "Friday" as a days of dev interview posts. Maybe someone from the QA team (suggestions of Sophie/Joel) could approach the QA team members and take care of the interviews and I could also do the same for QA blog posts. We could for example designate "Thursdays" as QA interview blog posts. I could take care of the Website team interviews and we could designate "Tuesdays" as Website interview blog-posts. That would leave Design (VI,UX) and Docs, l10n and perhaps do some for nl group leads. We could also do or dare to include the Discussion team in this as well and pick out certain individuals whose contributions to that particular team is considered of high standard of participation. This would make our blog even more attractive to read and for media dissemination. Having predictable days where certain interviews are done for certain groups, makes it appealing for those who are interested in specific groups. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] [ACTION ITEM -- ADD TO WIKIPEDIA] Re: Wikipedia editing.
Le 2013-02-12 12:15, Sophie Gautier a écrit : Hi Jeff, On 12/02/2013 18:11, Jeff Fortin wrote: Thanks! could you add the french government's 500K desktops as well? There are many, many others as well. LibreOffice, not OOo? Well I'd need the exact sources to cite those... can you provide them? (but then it might also be easier to add them directly yourself ;) Here is the source of the LibreOffice certified version they are delivering : http://www.journal-officiel.gouv.fr/mimo/ Kind regards Sophie -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Wikipedia editing.
Le 2013-02-09 20:30, Dave Johnson a écrit : FYI, I have full edit access on Wikipedia. I would be happy to edit the LibreOffice article. Sent from my iPad. It would be nice if a couple of the marketing team members could make it their task to "watch over" the LibreOffice Wikipedia page and become familiar enough with the page. This will make sure that there is no unnecessary tampering of the page as well as making sure that pertinent information is added to the page to keep it fresh. Is there anyone on the list who would like to take this on? Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted