Re: [MBZ] Jaime diesel mower

2013-08-03 Thread Michael Canfield
Yes.  And that makes them good at getting close.  Better watch out for
hitting things with the tail end though.

Mike

Mike
On Aug 3, 2013 9:20 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> Mountain Man wrote:
>
>> Come get this mower:
>> http://southbend.craigslist.**org/bar/3908171109.html
>> mao
>>
>>
> Those big rear steer mowers corner like a combine, don't they?
> But that's in awesome cosmetic condition for $2k.
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Re: [MBZ] Yelp is evil.

2013-08-03 Thread Michael Canfield
No truer words have ever been spoken...

Mike
On Aug 3, 2013 11:12 PM, "Gary Hurst"  wrote:

> my experience is that when someone is super pleased, they tell me about it,
> but when someone is the slightest bit upset, they go tell the world about
> it.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Allan Streib 
> wrote:
>
> > Mountain Man  writes:
> >
> > > It might be that competitors have purchased good ratings? meaning that
> > > only good ratings come to them.  Always, follow the money.
> >
> > Another thing is that when people are satisfied they usually don't
> > bother to comment or go out of their way to leave ratings.  When people
> > are pissed off they do.  So online ratings will always be biased towards
> > the negative when compared to reality.
> >
> > I personally don't ever look online for a rating of anything, as I don't
> > ever know what to believe.
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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Craig
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:56:31 -0500 OK Don  wrote:

> LOL.  I go to the local 100% pure gas station and buy gas for my
> airplane, so it just makes sense that Kaleb needs to go to the airport
> to buy gas for his chain saw!

Do you pay road tax on the gasoline you get for your airplane?


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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Fmiser
> G wrote:
> 
> Are you using gasoline with ethanol?  If you are, the small
> engines in both weed eaters and chain saws do NOT like ethanol..
> the Reed Vapor Pressure of ethanol / gasoline fuel is such that
> it runs like crap, the carb gets vapor lock [ethanol boil off
> point is low, so it boils and makes a pressure bubble that blocks
> flow of fuel, thus starving the engine, I'm told].

Curious.  I run only ethanol blend.  Have for >25 years.  I use it
in all the gasoline powered machines from cars to lawn mowers to
chainsaws.  I can't point to one single situation where I could
blame the fuel.  They all seem to be doing just fine.  I don't have
trouble either hot or cold with my two cycle or four cycle engines.

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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Allan Streib
I don't know if it's still the case but around here the premium (92)
is/was ethanol-free.  I guess that could have changed, or maybe it
depends on the company.

Alex Chamberlain  writes:

> On Aug 3, 2013 6:34 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:
>
>> A cheaper and less handy alternative
>> is to go to an airstrip with self serve
>> gas pumps and get yourself a few
>> gallons of 100LL.
>
> There's a station near where all the amateur racing events around here are
> held that sells 98 octane "racing gas"--would that work?  I figure if they
> mean for people to be putting it in vintage Ferraris and such, it probably
> isn't cut with ethanol.
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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread OK Don
LOL.  I go to the local 100% pure gas station and buy gas for my airplane,
so it just makes sense that Kaleb needs to go to the airport to buy gas for
his chain saw!

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

>
> A cheaper and less handy alternative is to go to an airstrip with self
> serve gas pumps and get yourself a few gallons of 100LL. Doesn't decompose
> in a sealed metal container, has way more octane than you need, but can't
> make quite as much power as pump gas.
>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] more on the 95 E300

2013-08-03 Thread OK Don
IIRC, the self destructing wiring harness was an EU mandate for a peroid of
time, bio-degradable, no harm to the environment when you sent your old car
to the landfill, etc. You aren't supposed to drive old cars in the EU, how
are they going to sell new ones if you keep the old ones running for 40 or
50 years?


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:28 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> Same way they got away with the 350SD stuff.  They don't seem to give a
> damned.  'Doesn't seem to make a difference; we keep bowing and scraping.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 7:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] more on the 95 E300
>
>
>
>  The harnesses are so bad when they decompose there is no way you would
>> ever figure out what's going on without replacing it.
>>
>> I never experienced anything like this until I replaced the bottom engine
>> harness in my S500.  If there is any insulation it literally falls off the
>> minute you move anything or touch the harness.
>>
>> How MB got away with not getting hit with a class action suit on this I
>> can't understand.  I have to believe there had to be some cars that went up
>> in flames as a result of this.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>>
>>  So messing with the e300 again as you know last update ac compressor now
>>> kicks in.  Today I was running it to test vacuum stuff and compressor was
>>> randomly kicking off and on, very much like an intermittent contact or
>>> something.  I pulled the complete manifold to take a better look at the
>>> wiring harness.  it is screwed.  The engine harness and the glowplug
>>> harness both really need to be replaced.  I think I am just chasing ghosts
>>> with this compressor deal until I replace the harness.  I am assuming the
>>> engine harness connects to the compressor rather than it being a separate
>>> harness, it appears to go into the main harness.  So, I guess I am going to
>>> have to order a new harness before proceeding.  I replaced both of them on
>>> my 92 SD and the main engine harness was only a couple hundred.  On this
>>> car it is over $400, wow.  Also I tried a couple of glow plugs while
>>> messing with it and they seem really be in there tight.  I did not crank on
>>> them very hard to loosen but seem tight on the 2 I tried. They may not be
>>> bad, it could be the harness causing the glow plug light to come on
>>> sometimes and sometimes not. I noticed the #1 wire had come loose from the
>>> glow plug.
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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Aug 3, 2013 6:34 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> A cheaper and less handy alternative
> is to go to an airstrip with self serve
> gas pumps and get yourself a few
> gallons of 100LL.

There's a station near where all the amateur racing events around here are
held that sells 98 octane "racing gas"--would that work?  I figure if they
mean for people to be putting it in vintage Ferraris and such, it probably
isn't cut with ethanol.

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Re: [MBZ] Yelp is evil.

2013-08-03 Thread Gary Hurst
my experience is that when someone is super pleased, they tell me about it,
but when someone is the slightest bit upset, they go tell the world about
it.


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Mountain Man  writes:
>
> > It might be that competitors have purchased good ratings? meaning that
> > only good ratings come to them.  Always, follow the money.
>
> Another thing is that when people are satisfied they usually don't
> bother to comment or go out of their way to leave ratings.  When people
> are pissed off they do.  So online ratings will always be biased towards
> the negative when compared to reality.
>
> I personally don't ever look online for a rating of anything, as I don't
> ever know what to believe.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
When my grandmother was diagnosed with it they gave her 6 months, she lived 2 
weeks

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Rick Knoble  writes:
> 
>> Side note. I is my understanding that when Steve Jobs first learned of
>> his illness he went the herbs and roots holistic healing route,
>> instead of going with traditional oncological methods. That probably
>> cost him several years of life. Oops.
> 
> He did, but the affect on his lifespan is unknown.  Pancreatic cancer is
> pretty much a death sentence no matter what you do (or don't do).
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Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-03 Thread Dan Penoff
I have a friend who had the same diagnosis as Jobs. Within a week he had the 
procedure doctors had recommended to Jobs.

Three years later he's healthy with no sign of cancer.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 3, 2013, at 10:44 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:

> Rick Knoble  writes:
> 
>> Side note. I is my understanding that when Steve Jobs first learned of
>> his illness he went the herbs and roots holistic healing route,
>> instead of going with traditional oncological methods. That probably
>> cost him several years of life. Oops.
> 
> He did, but the affect on his lifespan is unknown.  Pancreatic cancer is
> pretty much a death sentence no matter what you do (or don't do).
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-03 Thread Allan Streib
Rick Knoble  writes:

> Side note. I is my understanding that when Steve Jobs first learned of
> his illness he went the herbs and roots holistic healing route,
> instead of going with traditional oncological methods. That probably
> cost him several years of life. Oops.

He did, but the affect on his lifespan is unknown.  Pancreatic cancer is
pretty much a death sentence no matter what you do (or don't do).

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Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 3, 2013, at 4:43 PM, "Mountain Man"  wrote:

> No $$? - we wave goodbye to
> you


Money didn't buy Steve Jobs much more time. Or Mickey Mantel. Or Elvis. Or 
Michael Jackson. Or _ .
When your times up...

Side note. I is my understanding that when Steve Jobs first learned of his 
illness he went the herbs and roots holistic healing route, instead of going 
with traditional oncological methods. That probably cost him several years of 
life. Oops. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Community

2013-08-03 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:43 PM, "Alex Chamberlain"  wrote:

> but if Glenn wants to stick with Hotmail, I believe it's
> possible.


I've used hotmail for about sixteen years now. Never had a problem. I don't use 
an email program though, I use web based mail, or my iPhone.  It works VERY 
well with the iPhone. I don't care much for the indigenous email app on the 
android tablet I have. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Bacon OT

2013-08-03 Thread Mitch Haley

Rich Thomas wrote:
My friend has a farm, raises pigs and cattle and food crops.  A coupla 
weeks ago some black gentlemen came to buy a pig from him for a barbecue 
they were going to have.  He asked them if they were going to take it 
home and kill it and butcher it.  They said no, where they lived (in 
North Charleston) the cops had gunshot microphones on the utility poles, 
and if they heard the shot they would come running.  So they shot it 
right there and threw it in the back of their truck to take it home to 
butcher it.  About as fresh as you can get!


What happened with those gunshot microphones in firecracker season last month?

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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Mitch Haley

G Mann wrote:


There is a product you can buy that is specific for ethanol fuel that
"deletes" the ethanol.
Supposed to be the cats ass stuff. I haven't tried it ... yet...


Thus turning 87 octane into what, 82 octane?
If you don't use a chain saw much you can buy the nonalcoholic premix in quart 
cans for about $4. Stuff stores forever and doesn't self-oxidize into varnish 
inside the saw. If you go through a gallon a week you probably wouldn't want to 
pay for that stuff.


Well, make that $5.50 a quart if you buy it at Sears:
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-50-1-fuel/p-07110582000P

A cheaper and less handy alternative is to go to an airstrip with self serve gas 
pumps and get yourself a few gallons of 100LL. Doesn't decompose in a sealed 
metal container, has way more octane than you need, but can't make quite as much 
power as pump gas.


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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So a couple of months ago I bought a brand new Poulan chain saw at 
lowes.  I used it to cut down a couple of small dead trees. Right out of 
the box it ran like crap, hard to start etc.


Probably adjusted lean from the factory.
If you bought a Husqvarna from an outdoor power equipment shop they should have 
tuned it for you. Go to Lowes and they'll hand you the box it comes in.

Carb adjustment screws probably take a splined socket driver.
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime diesel mower

2013-08-03 Thread Mitch Haley

Mountain Man wrote:

Come get this mower:
http://southbend.craigslist.org/bar/3908171109.html
mao



Those big rear steer mowers corner like a combine, don't they?
But that's in awesome cosmetic condition for $2k.

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Re: [MBZ] more on the 95 E300

2013-08-03 Thread WILTON
Same way they got away with the 350SD stuff.  They don't seem to give a 
damned.  'Doesn't seem to make a difference; we keep bowing and scraping.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] more on the 95 E300


The harnesses are so bad when they decompose there is no way you would 
ever figure out what's going on without replacing it.


I never experienced anything like this until I replaced the bottom engine 
harness in my S500.  If there is any insulation it literally falls off the 
minute you move anything or touch the harness.


How MB got away with not getting hit with a class action suit on this I 
can't understand.  I have to believe there had to be some cars that went 
up in flames as a result of this.


Dan


On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

So messing with the e300 again as you know last update ac compressor now 
kicks in.  Today I was running it to test vacuum stuff and compressor was 
randomly kicking off and on, very much like an intermittent contact or 
something.  I pulled the complete manifold to take a better look at the 
wiring harness.  it is screwed.  The engine harness and the glowplug 
harness both really need to be replaced.  I think I am just chasing 
ghosts with this compressor deal until I replace the harness.  I am 
assuming the engine harness connects to the compressor rather than it 
being a separate harness, it appears to go into the main harness.  So, I 
guess I am going to have to order a new harness before proceeding.  I 
replaced both of them on my 92 SD and the main engine harness was only a 
couple hundred.  On this car it is over $400, wow.  Also I tried a couple 
of glow plugs while messing with it and they seem really be in there 
tight.  I did not crank on them very hard to loosen but seem tight on the 
2 I tried. They may not be bad, it could be the harness causing the glow 
plug light to come on sometimes and sometimes not. I noticed the #1 wire 
had come loose from the glow plug.


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime diesel mower

2013-08-03 Thread WILTON

Heads suspended under mid-body cover those "gaps."

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime diesel mower



On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:48:53 -0500 Mountain Man 
wrote:


Come get this mower:
http://southbend.craigslist.org/bar/3908171109.html
mao


It looks like you have to go back over ground you just cut to get the
spots between the mowing heads. I would have designed it so the heads
were staggered and cut one wide swath.


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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
could be, yes its crappy ethanol gas.  I may try to buy some non ethanol 
gas.  I am sick of uncle sam telling everyone what the need, such as 
health care and this ethanol gas.

On 8/3/2013 7:12 PM, G Mann wrote:

Are you using gasoline with ethanol?  If you are, the small engines in both
weed eaters and chain saws do NOT like ethanol.. the Reed Vapor Pressure of
ethanol / gasoline fuel is such that it runs like crap, the carb gets vapor
lock [ethanol boil off point is low, so it boils and makes a pressure
bubble that blocks flow of fuel, thus starving the engine, I'm told].

There is a product you can buy that is specific for ethanol fuel that
"deletes" the ethanol.
Supposed to be the cats ass stuff. I haven't tried it ... yet...

Suggest this issue could be your problem.

Grant...

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


Is that the orange one?  I have one of those, the safety clutch mechanism
broke on the first one I had so thy gave me a new one.  Once I get it going
it runs ok but is hard to start even with the compression relief.  Starts
better when it is hot, from cold takes a lot of pulls and nursing it.  It
is fairly powerful and cuts well but is just a PITA to get going.

You might need to adjust the idle and full screws to get the mix right.
  That's the two little screws on the carb.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:52 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
wrote:

So a couple of months ago I bought a brand new Poulan chain saw at
lowes.  I used it to cut down a couple of small dead trees. Right out of
the box it ran like crap, hard to start etc.  I figured it was because
maybe the gas was a little old I used.  So today I needed to use it to cut
up a huge tree that fell down last week and took out part of my fence and
storage buidling.  USAA is sending me a check for 2k for the damages but I
am not going to pay somebody to cut it up so i started on it today.  Anyway
so I get started on it, for good measure used brand new fresh gas with oil
mixed, seemed to start better for a while, but was not too long before the
damn thing would run for a bit, then die, and be very hard to start.  I
finally got fed up with it and quit.  This is about the same with the last
couple of weed eaters I have bought, all seem to be hard to start and take
a while to get them running without them dying.  Can they not produce
quality stuff right out of the box?  I assume it probably needs a simple
adjustment of the carb or something.

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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread G Mann
Are you using gasoline with ethanol?  If you are, the small engines in both
weed eaters and chain saws do NOT like ethanol.. the Reed Vapor Pressure of
ethanol / gasoline fuel is such that it runs like crap, the carb gets vapor
lock [ethanol boil off point is low, so it boils and makes a pressure
bubble that blocks flow of fuel, thus starving the engine, I'm told].

There is a product you can buy that is specific for ethanol fuel that
"deletes" the ethanol.
Supposed to be the cats ass stuff. I haven't tried it ... yet...

Suggest this issue could be your problem.

Grant...

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Is that the orange one?  I have one of those, the safety clutch mechanism
> broke on the first one I had so thy gave me a new one.  Once I get it going
> it runs ok but is hard to start even with the compression relief.  Starts
> better when it is hot, from cold takes a lot of pulls and nursing it.  It
> is fairly powerful and cuts well but is just a PITA to get going.
>
> You might need to adjust the idle and full screws to get the mix right.
>  That's the two little screws on the carb.
>
> --R (sent from my miniPad)
>
> On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:52 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
> wrote:
>
>So a couple of months ago I bought a brand new Poulan chain saw at
> lowes.  I used it to cut down a couple of small dead trees. Right out of
> the box it ran like crap, hard to start etc.  I figured it was because
> maybe the gas was a little old I used.  So today I needed to use it to cut
> up a huge tree that fell down last week and took out part of my fence and
> storage buidling.  USAA is sending me a check for 2k for the damages but I
> am not going to pay somebody to cut it up so i started on it today.  Anyway
> so I get started on it, for good measure used brand new fresh gas with oil
> mixed, seemed to start better for a while, but was not too long before the
> damn thing would run for a bit, then die, and be very hard to start.  I
> finally got fed up with it and quit.  This is about the same with the last
> couple of weed eaters I have bought, all seem to be hard to start and take
> a while to get them running without them dying.  Can they not produce
> quality stuff right out of the box?  I assume it probably needs a simple
> adjustment of the carb or something.
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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I think its orange, heck I dont know.  How do you adjust it?

On 8/3/2013 7:06 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

Is that the orange one?  I have one of those, the safety clutch mechanism broke 
on the first one I had so thy gave me a new one.  Once I get it going it runs 
ok but is hard to start even with the compression relief.  Starts better when 
it is hot, from cold takes a lot of pulls and nursing it.  It is fairly 
powerful and cuts well but is just a PITA to get going.

You might need to adjust the idle and full screws to get the mix right.  That's 
the two little screws on the carb.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:52 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

So a couple of months ago I bought a brand new Poulan chain saw at lowes.  I used it to cut down a couple of small dead trees. Right out of the box it ran like crap, hard to start etc.  I figured it was because maybe the gas was a little old I used.  So today I needed to use it to cut up a huge tree that fell down last week and took out part of my fence and storage buidling.  USAA is sending me a check for 2k for the damages but I am not going to pay somebody to cut it up so i started on it today.  Anyway so I get started on it, for good measure used brand new fresh gas with oil mixed, seemed to start better for a while, but was not too long before the damn thing would run for a bit, then die, and be very hard to start.  I finally got fed up with it and quit.  This is about the same with the last couple of weed eaters I have bought, all seem to be hard to start and take a while to get them running without them dying.  Can they not produce quality stuff right out of the box?  I 

assume it probably needs a simple adjustment of the carb or something.


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Re: [MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Is that the orange one?  I have one of those, the safety clutch mechanism broke 
on the first one I had so thy gave me a new one.  Once I get it going it runs 
ok but is hard to start even with the compression relief.  Starts better when 
it is hot, from cold takes a lot of pulls and nursing it.  It is fairly 
powerful and cuts well but is just a PITA to get going.

You might need to adjust the idle and full screws to get the mix right.  That's 
the two little screws on the carb.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:52 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

   So a couple of months ago I bought a brand new Poulan chain saw at lowes.  I 
used it to cut down a couple of small dead trees. Right out of the box it ran 
like crap, hard to start etc.  I figured it was because maybe the gas was a 
little old I used.  So today I needed to use it to cut up a huge tree that fell 
down last week and took out part of my fence and storage buidling.  USAA is 
sending me a check for 2k for the damages but I am not going to pay somebody to 
cut it up so i started on it today.  Anyway so I get started on it, for good 
measure used brand new fresh gas with oil mixed, seemed to start better for a 
while, but was not too long before the damn thing would run for a bit, then 
die, and be very hard to start.  I finally got fed up with it and quit.  This 
is about the same with the last couple of weed eaters I have bought, all seem 
to be hard to start and take a while to get them running without them dying.  
Can they not produce quality stuff right out of the box?  I ass
 ume it probably needs a simple adjustment of the carb or something.

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime diesel mower

2013-08-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Ha... I can turn this place into a golf course!

Jaime


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> Come get this mower:
> http://southbend.craigslist.org/bar/3908171109.html
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime diesel mower

2013-08-03 Thread Craig
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Frederick Moir
 wrote:

> >On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:48:53 -0500 Mountain Man 
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Come get this mower:
> >> http://southbend.craigslist.org/bar/3908171109.html
> >> mao
> >
> >It looks like you have to go back over ground you just cut to get the
> >spots between the mowing heads. I would have designed it so the heads
> >were staggered and cut one wide swath.
>
> Three in front, two interstitial behind.
> And I'm the one with the coke bottle specs.

It's not clear what is behind the riding portion of the mower from the
main picture provided and I didn't notice that there was a
rear-three-quarter picture off to the side.

That thing must cut a LOT of grass!

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] more on the 95 E300

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have heard before they are the same, but have also heard they are not, 
so I am not sure.

On 8/3/2013 6:59 PM, Craig wrote:

On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:53:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:


Yep, I have seen a few cars like this.  My 92 SD had this problem,
replaced it when I pulled the engine to do the rod replacement. This
car has it but I am baffled why the thing costs double what one does
for a 140 diesel.  I have another 92 SD in the back that the wiring
harness is all hacked up, It appears it had the problem and somebody
just started splicing in new wires.  When I get to that car it will get
a new harness also.

Do the new harnesses have non-degrading wire, or are they the same junk
as the original ones?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] more on the 95 E300

2013-08-03 Thread Craig
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:53:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> Yep, I have seen a few cars like this.  My 92 SD had this problem, 
> replaced it when I pulled the engine to do the rod replacement. This
> car has it but I am baffled why the thing costs double what one does
> for a 140 diesel.  I have another 92 SD in the back that the wiring
> harness is all hacked up, It appears it had the problem and somebody
> just started splicing in new wires.  When I get to that car it will get
> a new harness also.

Do the new harnesses have non-degrading wire, or are they the same junk
as the original ones?


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Re: [MBZ] more on the 95 E300

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yep, I have seen a few cars like this.  My 92 SD had this problem, 
replaced it when I pulled the engine to do the rod replacement. This car 
has it but I am baffled why the thing costs double what one does for a 
140 diesel.  I have another 92 SD in the back that the wiring harness is 
all hacked up, It appears it had the problem and somebody just started 
splicing in new wires.  When I get to that car it will get a new harness 
also.

On 8/3/2013 6:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

The harnesses are so bad when they decompose there is no way you would ever 
figure out what's going on without replacing it.

I never experienced anything like this until I replaced the bottom engine 
harness in my S500.  If there is any insulation it literally falls off the 
minute you move anything or touch the harness.

How MB got away with not getting hit with a class action suit on this I can't 
understand.  I have to believe there had to be some cars that went up in flames 
as a result of this.

Dan


On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


So messing with the e300 again as you know last update ac compressor now kicks 
in.  Today I was running it to test vacuum stuff and compressor was randomly 
kicking off and on, very much like an intermittent contact or something.  I 
pulled the complete manifold to take a better look at the wiring harness.  it 
is screwed.  The engine harness and the glowplug harness both really need to be 
replaced.  I think I am just chasing ghosts with this compressor deal until I 
replace the harness.  I am assuming the engine harness connects to the 
compressor rather than it being a separate harness, it appears to go into the 
main harness.  So, I guess I am going to have to order a new harness before 
proceeding.  I replaced both of them on my 92 SD and the main engine harness 
was only a couple hundred.  On this car it is over $400, wow.  Also I tried a 
couple of glow plugs while messing with it and they seem really be in there 
tight.  I did not crank on them very hard to loosen but seem tight on t

he 2 I tried. They may not be bad, it could be the harness causing the glow 
plug light to come on sometimes and sometimes not. I noticed the #1 wire had 
come loose from the glow plug.


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Re: [MBZ] Jaime diesel mower

2013-08-03 Thread Frederick Moir
Three in front, two interstitial behind.
And I'm the one with the coke bottle specs.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



>
> From: Craig 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 7:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime diesel mower
> 
>
>On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:48:53 -0500 Mountain Man 
>wrote:
>
>> Come get this mower:
>> http://southbend.craigslist.org/bar/3908171109.html
>> mao
>
>It looks like you have to go back over ground you just cut to get the
>spots between the mowing heads. I would have designed it so the heads
>were staggered and cut one wide swath.
>
>
>Craig
>
>
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[MBZ] Chainsaws

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So a couple of months ago I bought a brand new Poulan chain saw at 
lowes.  I used it to cut down a couple of small dead trees. Right out of 
the box it ran like crap, hard to start etc.  I figured it was because 
maybe the gas was a little old I used.  So today I needed to use it to 
cut up a huge tree that fell down last week and took out part of my 
fence and storage buidling.  USAA is sending me a check for 2k for the 
damages but I am not going to pay somebody to cut it up so i started on 
it today.  Anyway so I get started on it, for good measure used brand 
new fresh gas with oil mixed, seemed to start better for a while, but 
was not too long before the damn thing would run for a bit, then die, 
and be very hard to start.  I finally got fed up with it and quit.  This 
is about the same with the last couple of weed eaters I have bought, all 
seem to be hard to start and take a while to get them running without 
them dying.  Can they not produce quality stuff right out of the box?  I 
assume it probably needs a simple adjustment of the carb or something.


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Re: [MBZ] more on the 95 E300

2013-08-03 Thread Dan Penoff
The harnesses are so bad when they decompose there is no way you would ever 
figure out what's going on without replacing it.

I never experienced anything like this until I replaced the bottom engine 
harness in my S500.  If there is any insulation it literally falls off the 
minute you move anything or touch the harness.

How MB got away with not getting hit with a class action suit on this I can't 
understand.  I have to believe there had to be some cars that went up in flames 
as a result of this.

Dan


On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> So messing with the e300 again as you know last update ac compressor now 
> kicks in.  Today I was running it to test vacuum stuff and compressor was 
> randomly kicking off and on, very much like an intermittent contact or 
> something.  I pulled the complete manifold to take a better look at the 
> wiring harness.  it is screwed.  The engine harness and the glowplug harness 
> both really need to be replaced.  I think I am just chasing ghosts with this 
> compressor deal until I replace the harness.  I am assuming the engine 
> harness connects to the compressor rather than it being a separate harness, 
> it appears to go into the main harness.  So, I guess I am going to have to 
> order a new harness before proceeding.  I replaced both of them on my 92 SD 
> and the main engine harness was only a couple hundred.  On this car it is 
> over $400, wow.  Also I tried a couple of glow plugs while messing with it 
> and they seem really be in there tight.  I did not crank on them very hard to 
> loosen but seem tight on th
 e 2 I tried. They may not be bad, it could be the harness causing the glow 
plug light to come on sometimes and sometimes not. I noticed the #1 wire had 
come loose from the glow plug.
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Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Community

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I think it was glenn that we went thru this a year or so ago, maybe, i 
dont remember.

On 8/3/2013 5:43 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

Dave wrote:

Haven't followed this and don't know what has been tried but...

Perhaps you ought to copy him on this advice.  I don't think he sees
the stuff posted to okiebenz.  Also mention gmail.  All ya need is a
browser.

I've just now done exactly that--pointed Glenn to the list delivery
options (which are not on the main page at
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com as
others have said but on a subsidiary page accessed by entering your
email at the bottom of the first page) and also recommended that he
set up a separate GMail account just to read the list.  I'm hoping he
won't give up.  We went through this a year or so ago with someone
else, as I pointed out a couple of weeks ago, and Tarek was the one
who was clever enough to figure out that Microsoft had changed
something in Hotmail that broke MIME message handling.  As with many
things the optimal solution is to stay as far away from MS products as
possible, but if Glenn wants to stick with Hotmail, I believe it's
possible.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime diesel mower

2013-08-03 Thread Craig
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 16:48:53 -0500 Mountain Man 
wrote:

> Come get this mower:
> http://southbend.craigslist.org/bar/3908171109.html
> mao

It looks like you have to go back over ground you just cut to get the
spots between the mowing heads. I would have designed it so the heads
were staggered and cut one wide swath.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: brake master cylinder reservoir, W116

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

it just pops off, pry it off with a big screw driver.

On 8/3/2013 5:42 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Amidst the health care, cancer, death panel, and lawn mower converation,
I am wondering how to remove the reservoir from the master cylinder on
my W116.  It looks like it should just pull/pry off?  I don't want to
break anything.

Allan



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Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Community

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
All of this has been mentioned before, he does not seem to listen or 
comprehend.

On 8/3/2013 4:34 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Dave wrote:

Haven't followed this and don't know what has been tried but...

Perhaps you ought to copy him on this advice.  I don't think he sees
the stuff posted to okiebenz.  Also mention gmail.  All ya need is a
browser.
mao

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[MBZ] more on the 95 E300

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So messing with the e300 again as you know last update ac compressor now 
kicks in.  Today I was running it to test vacuum stuff and compressor 
was randomly kicking off and on, very much like an intermittent contact 
or something.  I pulled the complete manifold to take a better look at 
the wiring harness.  it is screwed.  The engine harness and the glowplug 
harness both really need to be replaced.  I think I am just chasing 
ghosts with this compressor deal until I replace the harness.  I am 
assuming the engine harness connects to the compressor rather than it 
being a separate harness, it appears to go into the main harness.  So, I 
guess I am going to have to order a new harness before proceeding.  I 
replaced both of them on my 92 SD and the main engine harness was only a 
couple hundred.  On this car it is over $400, wow.  Also I tried a 
couple of glow plugs while messing with it and they seem really be in 
there tight.  I did not crank on them very hard to loosen but seem tight 
on the 2 I tried. They may not be bad, it could be the harness causing 
the glow plug light to come on sometimes and sometimes not. I noticed 
the #1 wire had come loose from the glow plug.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: brake master cylinder reservoir, W116

2013-08-03 Thread Craig
On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 18:51:05 -0400 Rich Thomas
 wrote:

> I don't know about the 116 but on the 123 it was just a press fit in
> the MC (not mower conversation).  I pried it off with a stiff blade.

I did the same thing when I lived in Texas and wanted to replace the
reservoir and grommets. It was hard to get off, and, with the new
grommets, even harder to get the new one on. If you don't leave it in the
car, you have to use a vise attached to something substantial.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: brake master cylinder reservoir, W116

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't know about the 116 but on the 123 it was just a press fit in the 
MC (not mower conversation).  I pried it off with a stiff blade.


--R


On 8/3/13 6:42 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Amidst the health care, cancer, death panel, and lawn mower converation,
I am wondering how to remove the reservoir from the master cylinder on
my W116.  It looks like it should just pull/pry off?  I don't want to
break anything.

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Re: [MBZ] Bacon OT

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
My friend has a farm, raises pigs and cattle and food crops.  A coupla 
weeks ago some black gentlemen came to buy a pig from him for a barbecue 
they were going to have.  He asked them if they were going to take it 
home and kill it and butcher it.  They said no, where they lived (in 
North Charleston) the cops had gunshot microphones on the utility poles, 
and if they heard the shot they would come running.  So they shot it 
right there and threw it in the back of their truck to take it home to 
butcher it.  About as fresh as you can get!


--R


On 8/3/13 5:54 PM, clay wrote:

http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/05/21/marijuana-fed-pork-debuts-seattle

IF I can cease screwing up the smoking, I will go looking for fresh pork belly. 
 Right now, I am doing ok with the local bellies the chinese supermarket sells. 
 Then I move into hams and maybe charcuterie.  I should be able to fabricate a 
smoking shed at that point.

clay

On Aug 3, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:


Smoker?  Smoking bacon is usually done in a room full of smoke, not in a cooking device, 
which may be your problem.  "Smokers" these days are low temperature (180F or 
so) cooking devices and it's going to be tricky to keep the temp below cooking temp with 
one.

My brother tried bacon a couple times when he used to butcher with some 
buddies, but he quit when the drinking got out of hand.  He never brined it 
long enough - bacon is salt cured meat, it's going to be salty!

I think the secret is to soak it in the proper brine solution until it becomes 
"waxy" -- that is, enough water has been removed to prevent spoilage.  Treating 
with cool smoke after that is to enhance the flavor and prevent mold on the surface, you 
don't want to cook it.  Like country hams, bacon is raw, not cooked, meat.  The salt in 
the meat is a side effect, not what you want.

When you get it figured out, you will have the best bacon ever.  Better yet if 
you can find some local source of pork bellies where the pigs are allowed to 
run rather than being fed in confinement -- much more meat in that bacon.

Good luck!

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels -- offshore?

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I see Mahindra tractors sold down the road, they are from India, 
probably have the same innards as many of the others.


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Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Community

2013-08-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>> Haven't followed this and don't know what has been tried but...
>
> Perhaps you ought to copy him on this advice.  I don't think he sees
> the stuff posted to okiebenz.  Also mention gmail.  All ya need is a
> browser.

I've just now done exactly that--pointed Glenn to the list delivery
options (which are not on the main page at
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com as
others have said but on a subsidiary page accessed by entering your
email at the bottom of the first page) and also recommended that he
set up a separate GMail account just to read the list.  I'm hoping he
won't give up.  We went through this a year or so ago with someone
else, as I pointed out a couple of weeks ago, and Tarek was the one
who was clever enough to figure out that Microsoft had changed
something in Hotmail that broke MIME message handling.  As with many
things the optimal solution is to stay as far away from MS products as
possible, but if Glenn wants to stick with Hotmail, I believe it's
possible.

Alex

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[MBZ] OT: brake master cylinder reservoir, W116

2013-08-03 Thread Allan Streib
Amidst the health care, cancer, death panel, and lawn mower converation,
I am wondering how to remove the reservoir from the master cylinder on
my W116.  It looks like it should just pull/pry off?  I don't want to
break anything.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Roger?

2013-08-03 Thread WILTON

How 'bout 10358 44th Ave. NE, Seattle?

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Roger?



That is the man.  Address should be around 88th NE

clay

On Aug 1, 2013, at 11:26 AM, WILTON wrote:


Is it Roger L. Ellingson, Seatle?  'Just tried to call his #; no answer.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Bacon OT

2013-08-03 Thread clay
http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/05/21/marijuana-fed-pork-debuts-seattle

IF I can cease screwing up the smoking, I will go looking for fresh pork belly. 
 Right now, I am doing ok with the local bellies the chinese supermarket sells. 
 Then I move into hams and maybe charcuterie.  I should be able to fabricate a 
smoking shed at that point.

clay

On Aug 3, 2013, at 6:49 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:

> Smoker?  Smoking bacon is usually done in a room full of smoke, not in a 
> cooking device, which may be your problem.  "Smokers" these days are low 
> temperature (180F or so) cooking devices and it's going to be tricky to keep 
> the temp below cooking temp with one.
> 
> My brother tried bacon a couple times when he used to butcher with some 
> buddies, but he quit when the drinking got out of hand.  He never brined it 
> long enough - bacon is salt cured meat, it's going to be salty!
> 
> I think the secret is to soak it in the proper brine solution until it 
> becomes "waxy" -- that is, enough water has been removed to prevent spoilage. 
>  Treating with cool smoke after that is to enhance the flavor and prevent 
> mold on the surface, you don't want to cook it.  Like country hams, bacon is 
> raw, not cooked, meat.  The salt in the meat is a side effect, not what you 
> want.
> 
> When you get it figured out, you will have the best bacon ever.  Better yet 
> if you can find some local source of pork bellies where the pigs are allowed 
> to run rather than being fed in confinement -- much more meat in that bacon.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Peter


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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Fmiser
> Scott wrote:
> 
> 
> Who actually makes that tractor/mower?

The 332 Jamie was looking at?

John Deere, in 1988.  It replaced the 330 was built from 1986 to
1988.  Engine by Yanmar, Techumseh transaxle, electric clutch for
front and rear PTO.

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Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-03 Thread clay
We had to bring in legal documentation before the dang catholics would allow my 
father to die in their care.  Every person giving care was made to read and 
verbalize their understanding of the document.  Sadly, they would not speed him 
on his way to go play harps at the pearly gates

clay

who does not get off on harp music


On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

> I agree with you entirely except:
> 
> 1. Most people are idiots or rather they're completely uneducated about 
> anything having to do with their health.
> 
> 2. Good information is hard to find even if you are somewhat savvy.
> 
> 3. Almost nobody has these discussions in advance.
> 
> For example I've got a pretty good handle on how my folks feel, my mom is a 
> death and dying nurse in a veterans nursing home so we've had some pretty 
> candid conversations. My wife's folks though have provided us pretty much 
> zero idea and while they don't refuse to talk about it they slide around like 
> they're greased. My wife is working on a plan to pin them down but its taken 
> a ton of effort on her part.
> 
> Even if the guidelines I mentioned before weren't for doctors to stop 
> providing care it would be helpful for families when accessing how far they 
> should go.
> 
> Ahh, another for instance, my grandmother had her hip replaced 10 years ago 
> when she was 83, came through with flying colors. Last year she was 
> complaining about her knees, wanted them replaced too. The doctor told her 
> no, that at 92 it didn't make any sense and she's going to have to get used 
> to some knee pain. We like that Doc...
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 21:06:16 -0400
> From: "Scott Ritchey" 
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer
> Message-ID: <8E278DAFC4684E3681AA0A642B87F0B2@ScottPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
> 
> 
> Clearly, there is a point where the quality of life (or absence thereof) is
> such that death is preferable to being a specimen for the medical
> establishment to practice on.  I've been down that road with pets and family
> members (both parents, for example). But who gets to decide when your life
> isn't worth living?  Family doctor?  A committee in DC?  Next of Kin?
> Arbitrary age limits?  The patient?  Frankly, I believe most patients and
> families would make the best decision provided they had good information and
> had considered such issues seriously long before any decision is needed.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
> Raymond
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 5:04 PM
> To: Diesel List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer
> 
> If you're 90 years old and confined to your bed barely awake I'm saying we
> shouldn't treat you for anything other than pain. We dope you to the point
> where you don't hurt and we let nature take its course. Theres no point in
> treating the cancer or heart disease or whatever if your life sucks.
> 
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[MBZ] Jaime diesel mower

2013-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
Come get this mower:
http://southbend.craigslist.org/bar/3908171109.html
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-03 Thread clay
My views on treatment were kept to myself.  I did as my parents desired, which 
was to attempt treatment.  Dad was ambulatory until the Fire Department came to 
cart him off to the hospital 14 hours before he bit it.

clay.

Who will self select for DNR and eliminate the need for treatment

On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:20 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

> Because you can never cut costs if 80% of your spending goes to support 40% 
> of your population who are elderly and half a step away from death's door 
> anyway.
> What we really need is a clear set of guidelines that tell us things like, 
> "if you haven't been out of bed in the last 6 months we won't pursue cancer 
> treatment" because thats pointless.
> 
> I think most of the time its not the person deciding its their kids...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 19:52:47 -0400
> From: Allan Streib 
> To: Diesel List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Curt Raymond  writes:
> 
>> If you're 90 years old and confined to your bed barely awake I'm
>> saying we shouldn't treat you for anything other than pain. We dope
>> you to the point where you don't hurt and we let nature take its
>> course. Theres no point in treating the cancer or heart disease or
>> whatever if your life sucks.
> 
> Why not leave that decision up to the individual?  If someone else is
> deciding, that is a "death panel."  That all that phrase means.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Yelp is evil.

2013-08-03 Thread Allan Streib
Mountain Man  writes:

> It might be that competitors have purchased good ratings? meaning that
> only good ratings come to them.  Always, follow the money.

Another thing is that when people are satisfied they usually don't
bother to comment or go out of their way to leave ratings.  When people
are pissed off they do.  So online ratings will always be biased towards
the negative when compared to reality.

I personally don't ever look online for a rating of anything, as I don't
ever know what to believe.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
Scott wrote:
> I would put it differently.

Your "differently" was at a different time than today.  Today, the
primary commodity of all existence is $$.  No $$? - we wave goodbye to
you.  Go back further when we had docs that visited at your house and
did the work for eggs/beef/bacon.  Humanity lived and worked together.
 Humanity is not a concept today.  $$ rules all
activity/interest/community.  As drfatty said - it is a sad day and
there is zero vision of hope or change today.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Yelp is evil.

2013-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
dseretakis wrote:
> Do not use it! It has destroyed a good friend's business. They leave all the 
> bad reviews and filter out all the good. I can't imagine why there isn't an 
> ongoing class action law suit against these bastards.
>

It might be that competitors have purchased good ratings? meaning that
only good ratings come to them.  Always, follow the money.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Community

2013-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
Dave wrote:
> Haven't followed this and don't know what has been tried but...

Perhaps you ought to copy him on this advice.  I don't think he sees
the stuff posted to okiebenz.  Also mention gmail.  All ya need is a
browser.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-03 Thread Scott Ritchey

"we need death panels and a sensible rationing of
healthcare."

I would put it differently.  We need a way to make smart cost-benefit
decisions concerning health care.  Historically, we had a way.  If you could
afford it (typically because you worked and saved or because loved ones did)
you could decide what to do.  I don't think that's all bad.


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Hurst
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 12:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

money is an issue.  the idea of unlimited healthcare for anyone once they
enter the system in any way (which is most people) is insane and
unsustainable.  we need death panels and a sensible rationing of
healthcare.  we need similar measures throughout society unless you think
the unlimited printing of money to pay for it all is going to work out in
the end


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> clay wrote:
> > Butt here is a panel.  We are not allowed to pull aside the curtain and
> see them at work.
> >
> > They are the insurance miscreants
> >
> > The medical staff who slacks off on providing decent care
> >
> > The boys from Big Pharma, who price the medication out of reach, so as
> to make obscene profit
> >
> > The welfare and medicare schlubs who suck the economy dry and give
> nothing in return
> >
> > The hospital corporations who see no profit in filling a bed over paying
> executives like kings
> >
>
> All of whom see the large cache of $$ ready to be absorbed, so... they
> submit their hyped billings for payment.  Again, read The Law by
> Frederic Bastiat available free for download at fee.org or mises.org
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote:
> I was always conflicted about encouraging these guys who were most
> [very/absolutely] likely illegals, but they worked hard, were reliable,
> decent people, and never caused any trouble.  They were living the dream
> while the layabout population increased.  I had wished we could do a swap.
>

Give us your primer on the current fiasco the brainless happy faces
tell us is happenin' in DC.  I can't see a problem.  A sealed border
wall is only gonna make more $$ for the likes of Kozlowski and
Halliburton and other connected cheats.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Scott Ritchey

Who actually makes that tractor/mower?  I'd bet it's Yanmar or another
offshore company.  When I went looking for a compact utility tractor (CUT),
I discovered that there is no such thing as an American-made CUT.  The Deere
models were made by Yanmar and Iseki,  Massey Fergusons were made by TAFE in
India, and so forth.  Most of the smaller gas lawn tractors are made by MTD
or AYP (and maybe some others) regardless of the color of the paint or the
logo.  After researching this stuff I ended up with a Craftsman lawn tractor
(which turned out to be a Husqvarna clone made by AYP) and a Kioti tractor,
made by Daedong in Korea.  But in addition to the initial quality of the
machine, think hard about the cost and availability of parts.  I out very
little stock in the brand name of these machines but I take interest in who
actually made them and where.

Scott

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 7:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

Hi Jaime,

"Nothing runs like a Deere!"  If you are going to buy a tractor, don't even
think about any others.  I've owned/used three different JD lawn tractors
over the years, and my neighbors (who all had brand x, y or z) always told
me they wished they had spent the extra $$ on a JD.

That being said..DO NOT BUY that tractor on CL.  Those tractors were
designed and built for the actual farm market or landscapers, and as such,
most have been used hard and continuously since their purchase.  The engines
are probably OK, but you have to think of all the other parts on a lawn
tractor which can and will go bad.  That CL mower looks pretty sketchy.  Buy
one of these the same way you would buy a used MBtotal package.

The absolute best JD I had was a GT275 with blower and 48" deck.  Even
though I moved to a much smaller yard, I never should have sold it.  It had
a 17hp Kawasaki 2-cylinder which always started and never once smoked.  the
implements were belt drive, and very easy to change.  The next best was the
LX277, which is the lawn tractor version of the GT275.  It had the same
emgine with a 42" mulching deck that gave a superb cut.  The blower was the
same IIRC.

I also had the chance to use and work on a 100 Series (125).  It couldn't
hold a candle to the first two mentioned, and I would stay away.  It was
just flimsier all around.

In closing, unless you want to spend all of your time working on an old lawn
tractor, stay away from old diesels with hydraulics.

Jon

PS:  If you find a good LX277 that you don't want, call me...I'm in the
market.


On Aug 2, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

> Anyone on the list have a JD garden tractor?
> 
> We moved and I'm not so interested in using my push mower anymore.  When
we
> had 0.16 acres it was fine, but I'm looking for something a little more
> aggressive.
> 
> John Deere 330, 332, 455, and similar models with the 3 cylinder yanmar
> diesel really interest me.  Anyone have one or any experience?  From what
> I've read, they're the diesel W123 of garden tractors.
> 
> I don't have a huge amount to mow, about 1/2 acre, but I have potentially
> 500' of driveway to plow in the winter, and could find other uses for a
> powerful compact tractor.  And if I run out of justifications:  they're
> really cool and I want one.
> 
> This is local enough and the price is right, but looks pretty rough:
> http://cnj.craigslist.org/grd/3951606736.html
> 
> NJ isn't exactly tractor country, so there isn't much to choose from.
> 
> Anyone have any experience with these?
> 
> Jaime
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Who change the Vegemite?

2013-08-03 Thread Gary Hurst
the best oranges i've ever eaten were blood oranges bought at a grove in
central florida

i at a diner in bradenton last year at a diner and the bus boy was carrying
a glass of orange juice.  i told him that i bet that orange juice came from
a can, probabl purchased at walmart, and the juice came from brasil, even
though there are nothing but orange groves for miles around him.  he just
laughed and told me that this was true but the irony of it never struck him
till that moment

i once went to see the mixon groves in bradenton.  had a cup of fresh
squeezed.  commented that it tasted like tropicana.  young richard mixon (i
told him that he was not a crook.  somehow it's funny to me but i imagine
it's less funny when you've heard it from 10,000 other tourist)( just
laughed and asked me what i expected it to taste like given that tropicana
orange juice is bradenton oranges

of course, today your tropicana orange juice is no longer all bradenton
oranges as housing is worth more than groves, so they just buy their
oranges from brasil like everybody else.


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

> By law Florida citrus must be picked green, passed in the early 1900's
> when it took a week to get to New York.
>
> Stupid law, there is nothing as good as properly ripened Florida oranges.
>  Almost impossible to find now, though, as the best growing area is now
> houses.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Who change the Vegemite?

2013-08-03 Thread Gary Hurst
i consider that a possible explanation.  i know that eastern peaches i can
buy here are magnificent but california peaches are literally inedible.
but it is entirely possible that a california peach picked in season in
california is really quite good.

you cannot get good produce from the supermarket, even if it is
local/regional.  the answer is to go buy from privateers who drive their
trucks out to the wholesale houses in immokalee or homestead and then go
sell it in some parking lot.

i wish i'd have the opportunity to buy peaches from the grove in california
to see if it is just california fruit that is bad or it is the process of
bringing it to me that is bad.  but i don't.  so i avoid all california
produce.


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> You can't judge California by the produce you get at your local market.
> That stuff has been picked before its ripe and force ripened later.
> California oranges for instance are WAY WAY more flavorful than the balls
> of water you get from Florida. They don't get the water the Florida
> varieties get so they are much more intense.
>
> There is nothing quite as good as a fresh squeezed glass of California
> orange juice when the oranges were picked yesterday...
>
> Florida oranges are okay if they're tree ripened, to get that you have to
> be in Florida though.
>
>
> -Curt
>
>
> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:48:58 -0400
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas

You crack me up

--R


On 8/3/13 2:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Yea but I have never seen any Mexicans standing around, you know we have strict 
laws against illegal Mexicans here

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
This guy showed up in my hood one day, offered to my wife to mow the 
lawn (I was gone somewhere at the time, I usually did it on Sat aft.  So 
she says OK.  This guy had some old beatup car with a mower and a 
whacker and rake in the back.  He did a nice job, came back the next 
week and says he was the one who mowed last week, can he mow this week,  
I ask him how much, he says $30.  I say $25 he says OK.  So it takes him 
ever how long, he does a nice job, nice guy. Asks if he can do it from 
now on, I say sure, saved me the trouble in 100F heat, which I didn't 
really mind, but wifey says it frees me up to do other things (she 
wanted me doing), OK.


So this guy does my lawn the next few years, shows up like clockwork 
same time every week.  After awhile he has an old truck and a couple 
more implements, and some other guy.  While longer a ratty trailer and 3 
or 4 mowers, whackers and what not, and another guy.  Some time later 
brand new Ford pickup, new trailer, new equipment and 3 guys.  Now he is 
jefe, watches these guys while he is on the phone cooking other deals or 
whatever, no sweat for him.  Never raised the price in like 3 or 4 
years.  When we moved and still owned the house, my neighbor, whose yard 
he also did, would pay him and I sent my neighbor a check every month 
$100.  I had him do some other stuff remotely, after Ike blew through he 
just showed up and cleaned things up, never charged for it, kept the 
house looking nice.


So figuring $25 for 3 guys who could do 3-4 lawns in the hood in an 
hour, probably worked 10 hours a day and paying them maybe $7-8/hr, he 
was raking in some serious cash being jefe.  In the winter when stuff 
didn't grow much, even in Houston, he would head off to Mexico for 
extended visits, a month or so a couple times,  I'm sure he was paying 
his taxes too... never did figure out the border crossing but maybe by 
then he had papers or something.


I was always conflicted about encouraging these guys who were most 
[very/absolutely] likely illegals, but they worked hard, were reliable, 
decent people, and never caused any trouble.  They were living the dream 
while the layabout population increased.  I had wished we could do a swap.


--R



On 8/3/13 2:55 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Peter Frederick  writes:


I'm always astonished that people will pay someone to do their yard
work upwards of $100 per hour when they want to pay the people who
work for them and generate their income $10 an hour.

Simple supply and demand.




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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Peter Frederick
No, there is an infinite supply of people who will mow grass, so why  
do they get paid more than the infinite supply of people who MAKE  
MONEY FOR YOU?


The question of the age, I think.

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Allan Streib
Fmiser  writes:

> But unlike your beloved Cub, the John Deere with the hydrostatic
> drive is easy to change direction and speed.  And the hydraulics
> are use for power steering too.  Therefore, it drives like it's
> smaller than it looks.

My old wheel horse with three-speed transaxle changes speed and
direction easily.  You do have to use a clutch but I'm so used to it I
don't even notice.

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea but I have never seen any Mexicans standing around, you know we have strict 
laws against illegal Mexicans here 

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On Aug 3, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

> Uh, Oklahoma?  Heoo!  You are in Occupied Aztlan!  Don't you have a 
> Home Depot around?  Or just go south of the border (Tejas) and get a few.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 8/3/13 1:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>> If I could figure out where to hire some here I would have them out back 
>> stripping down cars and cleaning up.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Rich Thomas 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> You know, looking at the price for mowers, maintenance, fuel, etc., and the 
>>> time one spends on doing it, hiring a "guest worker" is a pretty cheap 
>>> option.  Most of them work fast, cheap, and pretty good.  In Houston the 
>>> competition was fierce, you could get them to do the yard for $25.  3 guys 
>>> roll out of the truck, one mowing, one trimming, one cleaning up, and they 
>>> were out of there in like 15min.  Jefe made sure it was done well.  The 
>>> yards weren't that big, but still...
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/3/13 1:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
 If a rear engine Snapper isn't handy enough for you, stay far away from 
 anything old that looks like a tractor. Maybe a commercial walk-behind or 
 a small zero turn rider?
 
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick  writes:

> I'm always astonished that people will pay someone to do their yard  
> work upwards of $100 per hour when they want to pay the people who  
> work for them and generate their income $10 an hour.

Simple supply and demand.

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Re: [MBZ] Bacon OT

2013-08-03 Thread Brian Toscano
High tech country ham and bacon?  What's the world coming to?


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> At Costco last year some guy was selling these automated smoker grill
> things that had a motorized auger to put wood chips in the fire box.  It
> had some sort of thermostat control on it.  I was actually tempted but
> my old Brinkman barrel smoker does a pretty good job.  But you are correct,
> the electric smokers sorta do the same thing but differently.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 8/3/13 11:12 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>> As much as I hate the concept an electric smoker is the deal for this,
>> nothing else can compete with it for keeping the temp right.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Looks like they still make them:

http://www.toro.com/en-us/sports-fields-grounds/mowers/riding-walk-reels/pages/default.aspx

Dan

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> i'd just a reel mower if i were you . moves well and changes direction
> easily!
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Fmiser
> Jaime wrote:
> 
> Is this what you what Mountain-man-dan?
> 
> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/grd/3950468948.html

That looks like a tiny bagger for a deck that big.  Would seem a
user would spend a lot of time stopping and emptying it...

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Briggs used to make some pretty good engines with iron sleeves and  
proper bearings.  Not anymore, the Quantums are junk, I've yet to see  
one that doesn't burn oil and have too much blowby.


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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Peter Frederick

Well, how hard would you work for $100 per hour?

I'm always astonished that people will pay someone to do their yard  
work upwards of $100 per hour when they want to pay the people who  
work for them and generate their income $10 an hour.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Fmiser
> Curt wrote:
> 
> Any of the diesel front engine machines will be big and turn like
> a bus...

But unlike your beloved Cub, the John Deere with the hydrostatic
drive is easy to change direction and speed.  And the hydraulics
are use for power steering too.  Therefore, it drives like it's
smaller than it looks.

Since I'd guess that you could sell it again for what you bought it -
maybe more if you put a bit of effort into it - I'd say buy it and
try it.

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff  writes:

> For $50 I bought an almost unused single cylinder driven reel mower
> with a clipping basket on the back. Nicest cutting mower I ever
> had. Still had the original paperwork with it.

Does anyone make powered reel mowers anymore?  The only ones I've seen
are specialty tractor types for used on the greens at golf courses.

Don't they require a lot of maintenance in sharpening and adusting the
clearance between the reel and blade?

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Dan Penoff
It gets tiresome for me to constantly carry on about Kohler.

Their engines nowadays are no more distinct than most other manufacturers, 
especially in the consumer products.

The days of the heavy iron K series are long gone. Their larger twin cylinder 
models are still very good, but to be honest a lot of the imported engines are 
just as good or better in some circumstances.

They've become a commodity, but maybe not as bad as Briggs or Tecumseh. Those 
are still pretty much throwaways as they have always been.

Dan

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> Dan wrote:
>> I recently sold a pretty decent Crapsman lawn tractor with a Kohler 17HP 
>> engine...
> 
> Finally.
> Finally you mention what I thought you would have spoken first -
> Kohler, which I thought was your employer, and about whom you seem to
> rave, in past years.
> We have a Bobcat Ransomes 48" walk behind with 14hp Kohler I/C that we
> have used for 15 years, purchased new.  Gets around all trees &
> shrubs.  Does not lug 150 pound human on it, as it is walk behind.  We
> went in to the local shop - use local as you have said, Dan - and we
> told him we had 2.5 acres to mow, he looked at me and counseled a walk
> behind.  I have legs, my sons have legs, we walk.  Totally
> maneuverable moreso than a tractor.  As someone else mentioned, get a
> single purpose machine for lawn, then another machine for snow,
> if/when.  The Kohler is tight as new, starts no problem, we add
> fuel/oil and it just runs.  This is commercial machine that was
> expensive, but... it has earned its keep.  We could take it out today
> and run it 5 days a week mowing suburban areas - the machine is built
> to last 50 years, USA made.
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Uh, Oklahoma?  Heoo!  You are in Occupied Aztlan!  Don't you 
have a Home Depot around?  Or just go south of the border (Tejas) and 
get a few.


--R


On 8/3/13 1:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

If I could figure out where to hire some here I would have them out back 
stripping down cars and cleaning up.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:


You know, looking at the price for mowers, maintenance, fuel, etc., and the time one 
spends on doing it, hiring a "guest worker" is a pretty cheap option.  Most of 
them work fast, cheap, and pretty good.  In Houston the competition was fierce, you could 
get them to do the yard for $25.  3 guys roll out of the truck, one mowing, one trimming, 
one cleaning up, and they were out of there in like 15min.  Jefe made sure it was done 
well.  The yards weren't that big, but still...

--R


On 8/3/13 1:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

If a rear engine Snapper isn't handy enough for you, stay far away from 
anything old that looks like a tractor. Maybe a commercial walk-behind or a 
small zero turn rider?

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Yelp is evil.

2013-08-03 Thread Allan Streib
Might be a scam like the BBB where you have to "join" in order to get
good ratings/reviews (or to clean up bad ones).


dsereta...@yahoo.com writes:

> Do not use it! It has destroyed a good friend's business. They leave all the 
> bad reviews and filter out all the good. I can't imagine why there isn't an 
> ongoing class action law suit against these bastards.
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Dan Penoff
We have that here as well, only it's not just jefes. A lot of firemen and 
people with similar jobs who have the time for a second business.

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On Aug 3, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

> You know, looking at the price for mowers, maintenance, fuel, etc., and the 
> time one spends on doing it, hiring a "guest worker" is a pretty cheap 
> option.  Most of them work fast, cheap, and pretty good.  In Houston the 
> competition was fierce, you could get them to do the yard for $25.  3 guys 
> roll out of the truck, one mowing, one trimming, one cleaning up, and they 
> were out of there in like 15min.  Jefe made sure it was done well.  The yards 
> weren't that big, but still...
> 
> --R
> 

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Dan Penoff
Heh. The first house we bought in WI had a really small yard. I had sold my 
trusty Wheel Horse when we moved up, so I needed a small walk behind mower to 
do the yard.

For $50 I bought an almost unused single cylinder driven reel mower with a 
clipping basket on the back. Nicest cutting mower I ever had. Still had the 
original paperwork with it.

Dan

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On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> i'd just a reel mower if i were you . moves well and changes direction
> easily!
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Community

2013-08-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Aug 3, 2013 9:54 AM, "Dave Cavner"  wrote:
>
> Haven't followed this and don't know what has been tried but... have you
looked at all the subscription options in the link at the bottom of each
message, particularly the 'Get MIME or Plain Text Digests?' toggle? If it's
set to plain text and you are having issues, I'd change to mime, then save.
I would then try to change back to plain text and re-save. If that has been
done to no avail I'd be stumped, too.
>

Right, what Dave said.  This is a known problem with Hotmail, as I posted a
few days back.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Allan Streib
Gary Hurst  writes:

> i'd just a reel mower if i were you . moves well and changes direction
> easily!

Great if you have a small yard.  Not exactly practical if you have
acres.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If I could figure out where to hire some here I would have them out back 
stripping down cars and cleaning up.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

> You know, looking at the price for mowers, maintenance, fuel, etc., and the 
> time one spends on doing it, hiring a "guest worker" is a pretty cheap 
> option.  Most of them work fast, cheap, and pretty good.  In Houston the 
> competition was fierce, you could get them to do the yard for $25.  3 guys 
> roll out of the truck, one mowing, one trimming, one cleaning up, and they 
> were out of there in like 15min.  Jefe made sure it was done well.  The yards 
> weren't that big, but still...
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 8/3/13 1:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
>> If a rear engine Snapper isn't handy enough for you, stay far away from 
>> anything old that looks like a tractor. Maybe a commercial walk-behind or a 
>> small zero turn rider?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread WILTON
Yep, I've been thinking 'bout that, too, but I've always been much of an 
independent guy, and riding/driving the mower is one thing I can still do - 
gives me a bit of a psychological boost to know that I can still do 
SOMETHING.  'Course, I already know nobody else is gonna do it like I want 
it, and that'd probably make me damned mad - take my money and make me mad, 
too - rather do it myself; then, if I mess it up, I can be upset with only 
myself.  'Course, now, if I really look hard enough, I could probably find 
somebody else to lay that on too.  ;<)


Wilton

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You know, looking at the price for mowers, maintenance, fuel, etc., and 
the time one spends on doing it, hiring a "guest worker" is a pretty cheap 
option.  Most of them work fast, cheap, and pretty good.  In Houston the 
competition was fierce, you could get them to do the yard for $25.  3 guys 
roll out of the truck, one mowing, one trimming, one cleaning up, and they 
were out of there in like 15min.  Jefe made sure it was done well.  The 
yards weren't that big, but still...


--R


On 8/3/13 1:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
If a rear engine Snapper isn't handy enough for you, stay far away from 
anything old that looks like a tractor. Maybe a commercial walk-behind or 
a small zero turn rider?


Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
You know, looking at the price for mowers, maintenance, fuel, etc., and 
the time one spends on doing it, hiring a "guest worker" is a pretty 
cheap option.  Most of them work fast, cheap, and pretty good.  In 
Houston the competition was fierce, you could get them to do the yard 
for $25.  3 guys roll out of the truck, one mowing, one trimming, one 
cleaning up, and they were out of there in like 15min.  Jefe made sure 
it was done well.  The yards weren't that big, but still...


--R


On 8/3/13 1:20 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
If a rear engine Snapper isn't handy enough for you, stay far away 
from anything old that looks like a tractor. Maybe a commercial 
walk-behind or a small zero turn rider?


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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread WILTON
Yep, I was gonna ask 'bout gnats, too, but then forgot.  In middle Georgia 
(Warner Robins, Macon, etc.), there's a "move" called "the Warner Robins 
Salute."  You simultaneously raise both hands as if to clap, but you bring 
'em together immediately in  front of the face in an effort to kill as many 
gnats as possible with one clap.  Repeat as necessary, which is often.  Same 
move applies to squiters in MI UP and Greenland.  ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels


You know, living right on the marsh I expected it to be much worse, but it 
isn't that bad.  Even with all the rain we have had the crop is not that 
noticeable.  It was much worse in Houston.  I think the county sprays 
around but I have not seen the black helicopter around us.  The gnats 
(noseeums) are much worse in the spring and fall. Them little buggers are 
nasty and vicious.


--R


On 8/3/13 12:10 PM, WILTON wrote:

How 'bout the squiter population?   ;<)



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[MBZ] Yelp is evil.

2013-08-03 Thread dseretakis
Do not use it! It has destroyed a good friend's business. They leave all the 
bad reviews and filter out all the good. I can't imagine why there isn't an 
ongoing class action law suit against these bastards.

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Mitch Haley

Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Funny you should mention Snapper... I got a older rear engined model for
free.  It had been sitting outside and I had little hope for it based on
cosmetic condition.  I went over the basics and rebuild the pull starter.
 The damn thing started on the second pull and ran great.  Unfortunately,
its just not maneuverable enough for my yard.  Everything is irregularly
shaped around here, so I need something that will change directions easily.


If a rear engine Snapper isn't handy enough for you, stay far away from anything 
old that looks like a tractor. Maybe a commercial walk-behind or a small zero 
turn rider?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Rich Thomas
You know, living right on the marsh I expected it to be much worse, but 
it isn't that bad.  Even with all the rain we have had the crop is not 
that noticeable.  It was much worse in Houston.  I think the county 
sprays around but I have not seen the black helicopter around us.  The 
gnats (noseeums) are much worse in the spring and fall. Them little 
buggers are nasty and vicious.


--R


On 8/3/13 12:10 PM, WILTON wrote:
How 'bout the squiter population?   ;<) 



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Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Community

2013-08-03 Thread Dave Cavner
Haven't followed this and don't know what has been tried but... have you looked 
at all the subscription options in the link at the bottom of each message, 
particularly the 'Get MIME or Plain Text Digests?' toggle? If it's set to plain 
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> Regarding the problem I'm having with the list digests showing up with 
> individual attachment icons across the top and the TOC being one of 'em 
> causing one to open this attachment to determine if there's any subject 
> matter in a particular digest worth reading, I'm gonna' give Microsoft 
> Community or some knowledgeable compu-geek on the list one last chance to 
> help resolve this issue . . . otherwise I'm just gonna' permanenty 
> unsubscribe.  Note: This problem didn't exist prior to my going on vacation 
> on 7/13 and resubscribing upon my return on 7/24.
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Re: [MBZ] Who change the Vegemite?

2013-08-03 Thread Peter Frederick
By law Florida citrus must be picked green, passed in the early 1900's  
when it took a week to get to New York.


Stupid law, there is nothing as good as properly ripened Florida  
oranges.  Almost impossible to find now, though, as the best growing  
area is now houses.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Microsoft Community

2013-08-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I think you should just unsubscribe.  I am sorry you are having 
problems but as I have indicated to you many times, nothing has 
changed on this end, there is nothing I can do to help you.  
People have offered you many ideas for resolving your problems 
such as using gmail. You are the only person having these 
problems.  Setting ultimatums for someone to help you or else is 
just annoying as hell.  Geez!



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one to open this attachment to determine if there's any subject matter in a 
particular digest worth reading, I'm gonna' give Microsoft Community or some 
knowledgeable compu-geek on the list one last chance to help resolve this issue 
. . . otherwise I'm just gonna' permanenty unsubscribe.  Note: This problem 
didn't exist prior to my going on vacation on 7/13 and resubscribing upon my 
return on 7/24.

  


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Re: [MBZ] Who change the Vegemite?

2013-08-03 Thread Curt Raymond
You can't judge California by the produce you get at your local market. That 
stuff has been picked before its ripe and force ripened later. California 
oranges for instance are WAY WAY more flavorful than the balls of water you get 
from Florida. They don't get the water the Florida varieties get so they are 
much more intense.

There is nothing quite as good as a fresh squeezed glass of California orange 
juice when the oranges were picked yesterday...

Florida oranges are okay if they're tree ripened, to get that you have to be in 
Florida though.


-Curt


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:48:58 -0400
From: Gary Hurst 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who change the Vegemite?
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

nothing grown in california seems to have any taste anymore.  worst fruit i
know of, at least
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[MBZ] Microsoft Community

2013-08-03 Thread G. M. Brown
Regarding the problem I'm having with the list digests showing up with 
individual attachment icons across the top and the TOC being one of 'em causing 
one to open this attachment to determine if there's any subject matter in a 
particular digest worth reading, I'm gonna' give Microsoft Community or some 
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. . . otherwise I'm just gonna' permanenty unsubscribe.  Note: This problem 
didn't exist prior to my going on vacation on 7/13 and resubscribing upon my 
return on 7/24.

 

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Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
drfatty wrote:
> money is an issue.  the idea of unlimited healthcare for anyone once they
> enter the system in any way (which is most people) is insane and
> unsustainable.  we need death panels and a sensible rationing of
> healthcare.  we need similar measures throughout society unless you think
> the unlimited printing of money to pay for it all is going to work out in
> the end

Get back to your original expression on this thread.  We are wy
past any recovery.  Recovery means a return to former time.  We are on
the verge of military coup.  We are on the verge of big change of some
sort.  Recovery is a hope for cure - totally unrealistic.  Things have
progressed way beyond our imagination or ability to accomplish
anything sustainable.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Treating cancer

2013-08-03 Thread Gary Hurst
money is an issue.  the idea of unlimited healthcare for anyone once they
enter the system in any way (which is most people) is insane and
unsustainable.  we need death panels and a sensible rationing of
healthcare.  we need similar measures throughout society unless you think
the unlimited printing of money to pay for it all is going to work out in
the end


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> clay wrote:
> > Butt here is a panel.  We are not allowed to pull aside the curtain and
> see them at work.
> >
> > They are the insurance miscreants
> >
> > The medical staff who slacks off on providing decent care
> >
> > The boys from Big Pharma, who price the medication out of reach, so as
> to make obscene profit
> >
> > The welfare and medicare schlubs who suck the economy dry and give
> nothing in return
> >
> > The hospital corporations who see no profit in filling a bed over paying
> executives like kings
> >
>
> All of whom see the large cache of $$ ready to be absorbed, so... they
> submit their hyped billings for payment.  Again, read The Law by
> Frederic Bastiat available free for download at fee.org or mises.org
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread WILTON

How 'bout the squiter population?   ;<)
BTW, I have a HEAVY crop of oak (and other) leaves every year.  Almost all 
of the leaves that have fallen on my lot since '96 are still where they 
fell - soon mulched in-place by my JD LX173 and are now feeding lush 
centipede (plus some weeds) that I must mow this afternoon.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels


I live in the woods in the Lowcountry.  No grass and no snow, and my wife 
has a fascination with raking up the leaves that fall, for reasons I do not 
fully understand.  The PO left his little Crapsman lawn tractor which has a 
mower deck but there is nothing to mow (I think he used it to mulch the 
leaves for some reason) and it keep shedding the belt, so I got a tip wagon 
for my wife to put her leaves into and haul them off somewhere else.  So 
far she has not used it, but uses the little HF wire wagon thing I got her.


I left the snowblower at my dad's on my way from Boston to Houston when we 
moved there, and ended up selling the thing at the farm auction.  I spit 
on its grave!


I do have to get the whacker out occasionally just to beat down random 
weeds and such, and there is bamboo that keeps trying to spread, but that 
is like 2x/yr for an hour or so.  Falling trees are a bigger problem.


If I had kept my dad's JD diesel I would have put a bucket on it just to 
move stuff around, mostly the leaves that my wife leaves in the wrong 
places after she rakes them up and hauls them somewhere else.


--R



On 8/3/13 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
You just changed your requirements entirely. With this in mind you want a 
zero turn. The brand probably doesn't matter, again I expect most of them 
are made by MTD.
Get a big engine and find one you can fit with a snowblower and you'll be 
all set. You'll need chains and a weight box of course but it'll do the 
job well for what snow you'll expect to see.


Any of the diesel front engine machines will be big and turn like a 
bus...


-Curt


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 09:03:47 -0400
From: Jaime Kopchinski 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels
Message-ID:
 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Funny you should mention Snapper... I got a older rear engined model for
free.  It had been sitting outside and I had little hope for it based on
cosmetic condition.  I went over the basics and rebuild the pull starter.
The damn thing started on the second pull and ran great.  Unfortunately,
its just not maneuverable enough for my yard.  Everything is irregularly
shaped around here, so I need something that will change directions 
easily.

Mowing with the snapper is a real chore, especially changing directions.
Not to mention the deck alignment is messed up and it really chewed up my
grass, but I could fix that.

It has a nice 10hp commercial Tecumseh engine.  Someone on CL will be 
happy

with it.

Jaime
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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
drfatty wrote:
> i'd just a reel mower if i were you . moves well and changes direction
> easily!

Absolutely!!
mao

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
Jaime wrote:
> Is this what you what Mountain-man-dan?
>
> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/grd/3950468948.html

We don't bag.  Ours is 48"  You would need to ask Dan about 12.5hp
Kohler, but our 14hp I/C runs excellent and is black color.  Totally
maneuverable, easy maintenance, in your price range, I recommend.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread WILTON
I've had a JD LX173 garden/lawn tractor with 44-inch mulching deck since 
'96; just spent $434 on blades, belts, battery filters, etc.  'Nother $216 
for tires.  Does great job of mulching in-place leaves, grass, weeds, small 
limbs, etc., basically most anything that I direct it toward, through, and 
over, on my 1¼ acres.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels


My dad had one of those little 3cyl JD diesels, 4WD, PTO etc. with a 
mowing deck under.  It was a great little tractor.  I ended up selling it 
at the auction, now kicking myself as I could now use it and I did not get 
much for it.


It had its occasional issues, probably from not being used when I was not 
at the farm visiting, but was pretty simple to deal with. Having an old 
Benz diesel helped!


--R


On 8/2/13 7:24 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Anyone on the list have a JD garden tractor?

We moved and I'm not so interested in using my push mower anymore.  When 
we

had 0.16 acres it was fine, but I'm looking for something a little more
aggressive.

John Deere 330, 332, 455, and similar models with the 3 cylinder yanmar
diesel really interest me.  Anyone have one or any experience?  From what
I've read, they're the diesel W123 of garden tractors.

I don't have a huge amount to mow, about 1/2 acre, but I have potentially
500' of driveway to plow in the winter, and could find other uses for a
powerful compact tractor.  And if I run out of justifications:  they're
really cool and I want one.

This is local enough and the price is right, but looks pretty rough:
http://cnj.craigslist.org/grd/3951606736.html

NJ isn't exactly tractor country, so there isn't much to choose from.

Anyone have any experience with these?

Jaime





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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Gary Hurst
i'd just a reel mower if i were you . moves well and changes direction
easily!



On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> Funny you should mention Snapper... I got a older rear engined model for
> free.  It had been sitting outside and I had little hope for it based on
> cosmetic condition.  I went over the basics and rebuild the pull starter.
>  The damn thing started on the second pull and ran great.  Unfortunately,
> its just not maneuverable enough for my yard.  Everything is irregularly
> shaped around here, so I need something that will change directions easily.
>  Mowing with the snapper is a real chore, especially changing directions.
>  Not to mention the deck alignment is messed up and it really chewed up my
> grass, but I could fix that.
>
> It has a nice 10hp commercial Tecumseh engine.  Someone on CL will be happy
> with it.
>
> Jaime
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
> > For such a small property the good in a small diesel will never outweigh
> > the premium you need to pay for it.
> > That one you linked to is probably going to be a disaster. The neglect
> > evident on the outside will be reflected everywhere...
> >
> > The real W123 of the garden tractor world is a small frame Cub Cadet
> > models 70, 100, 71, 72, 102 etc. I have a model 70 at the house which is
> a
> > 7hp from 1964. I've mowed our 1/4 acre with it although its overkill for
> > that and used it to plow our little driveway which its a little
> underweight
> > for although thats fixable. With a snowblower it'd be all set for any
> size
> > driveway. At camp I've got a 72 which is a 7hp model from 1967. I've got
> > that equipped with crossbar tires like a big tractor has. It hauls wood
> and
> > plows (ploughs for those on the other side of the pond) up a little patch
> > of land we plant for the wildlife. Again its a little underweight but
> I've
> > got a kit to fluid fill the tires. Something like a 100 with its 10hp
> would
> > do a little better.
> > The one at the house is pretty tired, the engine really needs rebuilding.
> > My current plan is to repower with a 10hp diesel. I've found Chinese
> copies
> > of Yanmar singles for around $600. The torque curve on the 10hp is more
> > like a 14hp gasser.
> >
> > Anyway for what you suggest you need I'd say go to Lowes, Home Depot,
> > Sears or wherever and buy the $999 lawn tractor, then lay down whatever
> > they want for the snowblower attachment, chains and weight box. 95% of
> all
> > lawn tractors sold today are made by MTD and pretty much every place that
> > carries lawn tractors carries the same one for $999. At camp we've got
> one
> > badged "Craftsman". My grandmother's is "Bolens" and my dad just bought a
> > "TroyBuilt" but they all exactly the same machine. The 17hp engine is
> > powerful and the rest of the tractor is good enough. They've made a
> > bazillion of them so parts access is easy and its got a 42" deck and
> wants
> > to mow in a pretty high gear so it'll eat right through your 1/2 acre
> > plenty quick.
> >
> > If you want something more rugged look into a Snapper rear engine rider.
> > Those are the modern equivalent of a w123. I use one to mow our lawn now.
> > Its a 1964, 8hp, I pulled it out from under a spruce tree on our farm
> about
> > 4 years ago and repowered it with an engine from a 1988. They make a ton
> of
> > attachments including a snowblower. AFAIK Snapper is one of the last
> brands
> > that actually makes their own stuff. Even the low end JD and Cub Cadet
> > stuff is all MTD.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> > Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 19:24:46 -0400
> > From: Jaime Kopchinski 
> > To: mercedes Mailing List ,Banned List
> > 
> > Subject: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Anyone on the list have a JD garden tractor?
> >
> > We moved and I'm not so interested in using my push mower anymore.  When
> we
> > had 0.16 acres it was fine, but I'm looking for something a little more
> > aggressive.
> >
> > John Deere 330, 332, 455, and similar models with the 3 cylinder yanmar
> > diesel really interest me.  Anyone have one or any experience?  From what
> > I've read, they're the diesel W123 of garden tractors.
> >
> > I don't have a huge amount to mow, about 1/2 acre, but I have potentially
> > 500' of driveway to plow in the winter, and could find other uses for a
> > powerful compact tractor.  And if I run out of justifications:  they're
> > really cool and I want one.
> >
> > This is local enough and the price is right, but looks pretty rough:
> > http://cnj.craigslist.org/grd/3951606736.html
> >
> > NJ isn't exactly tractor country, so there isn't much to choose from.
> >
> > Anyone have any experience with these?
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Roger?

2013-08-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I always figured he had some kind of connection to the auto industry.  He
knew a few too many details about certain things to not be on the inside.
 Or already have friends on the inside.

Jaime



On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> clay wrote:
> > same name, not the same guy.
>
> That is what I was thinking.
> Roger never impressed me as lawyer.  I pegged him as manager at
> perhaps ATT or other comm company, but I don't know.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] 240D crackhead perhaps

2013-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
Hendrik wrote:
> Hendrik
> who still has fond memories of the mao mobile

I should have let you use the 3-pedal car.
Immensely more memorable.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] John Deere Diesels

2013-08-03 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Is this what you what Mountain-man-dan?

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/grd/3950468948.html



On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> > I recently sold a pretty decent Crapsman lawn tractor with a Kohler 17HP
> engine...
>
> Finally.
> Finally you mention what I thought you would have spoken first -
> Kohler, which I thought was your employer, and about whom you seem to
> rave, in past years.
> We have a Bobcat Ransomes 48" walk behind with 14hp Kohler I/C that we
> have used for 15 years, purchased new.  Gets around all trees &
> shrubs.  Does not lug 150 pound human on it, as it is walk behind.  We
> went in to the local shop - use local as you have said, Dan - and we
> told him we had 2.5 acres to mow, he looked at me and counseled a walk
> behind.  I have legs, my sons have legs, we walk.  Totally
> maneuverable moreso than a tractor.  As someone else mentioned, get a
> single purpose machine for lawn, then another machine for snow,
> if/when.  The Kohler is tight as new, starts no problem, we add
> fuel/oil and it just runs.  This is commercial machine that was
> expensive, but... it has earned its keep.  We could take it out today
> and run it 5 days a week mowing suburban areas - the machine is built
> to last 50 years, USA made.
> mao
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