Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > Kaleb wrote:
> >
> > So where in ok is it going?

> MMM. wrote:

> Siloam Springs area.

Heh.  And all these years I thought Siloam Springs was in Arkansas!

It awfully close to Oklahoma.  And while Siloam Springs is not a
huge place, it's a pretty big metropolis compared to what is
across the border in Oklahoma. 

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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[G Mann via Mercedes]

One problem with furren steel mills is the steel produced is high volume of
recycled steel which is a combination of cast, steel, mixtures of other
metals that go into making modern steels.. The ability to control material
content is seriously compromised, consequently..

In the "Old Days" of American Steel.. it started with Iron Ore straight
from the ground, purified, then the requisite amounts of nickel, manganese,
etc were added to produce "new steel" ...

What is sold now is "remelted what ever is in the pile" more or less.

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 8:25 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
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> In disputing value of the SD, insco claimed it was worth $350 scrap.  But
> I called a number of local yards as the best I could get for two tons of
> car was $70.  That scrap price is much less than the coparts price.  Makes
> me think the plan was to sell Allen on with the hope it would bring very
> close to the payout.   Had the car actually gone to a PnP, it would have
> been offered as a rebuilder, which would be priced close to $1800.
>
> The time is coming for the shuttered steel plants in Amreeka to be fired
> back up.  Anybody recall the current stories about the steel out of asia
> that had QC data falsified?  Do we trust our weapons systems to chinese
> metal?
>
> clay
>
> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The chinee steel market is way down.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 10/11/17 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I got $150 in 2009 for a stripped but rusty 300TD.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high
> as
> >>> $400
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value
> >>> off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the
> >>> scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker,
> cost
> >>> was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31
> >>> years ago.
>  
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Re: [MBZ] Movie quote

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Movies are ok, but I still like Janice "Ole Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes 
Benz. My friends all drive Porches, I must make amends." Or something along 
those lines. 
Clint got all the good movie lines..."do you feel lucky punk", "a man's got to 
know his limitations", etc, etc. 
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

In disputing value of the SD, insco claimed it was worth $350 scrap.  But I 
called a number of local yards as the best I could get for two tons of car was 
$70.  That scrap price is much less than the coparts price.  Makes me think the 
plan was to sell Allen on with the hope it would bring very close to the 
payout.   Had the car actually gone to a PnP, it would have been offered as a 
rebuilder, which would be priced close to $1800.

The time is coming for the shuttered steel plants in Amreeka to be fired back 
up.  Anybody recall the current stories about the steel out of asia that had QC 
data falsified?  Do we trust our weapons systems to chinese metal?

clay

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 11:49 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The chinee steel market is way down.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 10/11/17 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> I got $150 in 2009 for a stripped but rusty 300TD.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high as
>>> $400
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value
>>> off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the
>>> scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost
>>> was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31
>>> years ago.
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Movie quote

[G Mann via Mercedes]

What could possibly go wrong... a Jewish film director makes a film that
pokes fun at every stereotype of every race on the planet... and has fun
doing it..

"Can't we all just get along" . Al Gore . and "What difference does
it make now?" HRC ... I wonder what the next Mel Brooks will use for
tag lines?  Seems there will be a few... well... a lot.

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There is no way that movie could get made today. I am surprised somebody
> has not got offended and had it banned.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Heh.  I can recite that movie to the letter.
> >
> > However, there was one line I never caught until about 10 years ago, and
> it almost seems ironic that I missed it:
> >
> > "Look at that star, hoo-ee! Civil service!”
> >
> > Reference:  https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/0d538925-f918-434e-b3b7-
> 3f3b28a76997
> >
> > -D don’t get me started on Animal House or Young Frankenstein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> On October 11, 2017 at 7:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Somebody needs to go back and get a sh*tload of dimes!”
> >>
> >> Dan beat me to it, and probably got the quote right.
> >>
> >> Mitch.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I do, you must be more specific.
>

Someplace called Colcord,  near Siloam Springs.   (shrug)

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Now what do I do?

[MG via Mercedes]

If only I had it and if only it was just $$,$$$ and not $$$,$$$.

MG

Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Spend $$,$$$!   ??


MG via Mercedes 
October 9, 2017 at 5:24 PM
My wife wants one of these but with more normal tires {265 16's) like 
on her Tacoma.


MG


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Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I do, you must be more specific. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:58:24 -0500 "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 Siloam Springs area.
>>> 
>>> Siloam Springs is in Arkansas ...
>> 
>> 
>> On the OK border.  What, you want a precise street address or something?
> 
> Nope.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:58:24 -0500 "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> >
> > > Siloam Springs area.
> >
> > Siloam Springs is in Arkansas ...
> 
> 
> On the OK border.  What, you want a precise street address or something?

Nope.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> > Siloam Springs area.
>
> Siloam Springs is in Arkansas ...


On the OK border.  What, you want a precise street address or something?

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Movie quote

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

There is no way that movie could get made today. I am surprised somebody has 
not got offended and had it banned.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Heh.  I can recite that movie to the letter.
> 
> However, there was one line I never caught until about 10 years ago, and it 
> almost seems ironic that I missed it:
> 
> "Look at that star, hoo-ee! Civil service!”
> 
> Reference:  https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/0d538925-f918-434e-b3b7-3f3b28a76997
> 
> -D don’t get me started on Animal House or Young Frankenstein
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On October 11, 2017 at 7:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Somebody needs to go back and get a sh*tload of dimes!”
>> 
>> Dan beat me to it, and probably got the quote right. 
>> 
>> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Movie quote

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Lolololol

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> On Oct 11, 2017, at 6:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "Somebody needs to go back and get a sh*tload of dimes!”
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey boys look what I got here
>> 
>> Where are the white women at?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Movie quote

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heh.  I can recite that movie to the letter.

However, there was one line I never caught until about 10 years ago, and it 
almost seems ironic that I missed it:

"Look at that star, hoo-ee! Civil service!”

Reference:  https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/0d538925-f918-434e-b3b7-3f3b28a76997

-D don’t get me started on Animal House or Young Frankenstein






> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On October 11, 2017 at 7:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> "Somebody needs to go back and get a sh*tload of dimes!”
> 
> Dan beat me to it, and probably got the quote right. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Movie quote

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mitch, you gotta up your game.

"Le Petomane Through Way"? Now what'll that asshole think of next? Has anybody 
got a dime? Somebody's gotta go back and get a sh*tload of dimes!"

-D Blazing Saddles committed to memory

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Who put a toll booth in the middle of the desert?
> Hey you, ride back to town and get us a bag of quarters from the bank.
> Mitch.  
>> On October 11, 2017 at 7:29 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hey boys look what I got here
>> 
>> Where are the white women at?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Flying Motorcycle

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

The body language of the rider / pilot was anything but relaxed.  I would
imagine it would be very hard to actually pay attention to catch criminals
when all of one's focus is on not crashing.

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Re: [MBZ] Movie quote

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Who put a toll booth in the middle of the desert?
Hey you, ride back to town and get us a bag of quarters from the bank.
Mitch.  
> On October 11, 2017 at 7:29 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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> 
> Hey boys look what I got here
> 
> Where are the white women at?
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Re: [MBZ] Movie quote

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> On October 11, 2017 at 7:32 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> "Somebody needs to go back and get a sh*tload of dimes!”

Dan beat me to it, and probably got the quote right. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Movie quote

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

"Somebody needs to go back and get a sh*tload of dimes!”

-D


> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Hey boys look what I got here
> 
> Where are the white women at?
> 
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[MBZ] Movie quote

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Hey boys look what I got here

Where are the white women at?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:00:27 -0500 "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Siloam Springs area.

Siloam Springs is in Arkansas ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Siloam Springs area.

-MMM-

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So where in ok is it going?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 4:51 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just a coinky-dink.  :)
> >
> > -MMM-
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Klebbie?
> >> Or just a coincidence the buyer's in OK?
> >> Mitch.
> >>
> >>> On October 11, 2017 at 4:52 PM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The former OK Don car is returning to OK with its new owner, leaving
> >> behind
> >>> only a couple of oil spots on the driveway and a stack of pictures of
> Ben
> >>> Franklin on my desk.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] E300 dizzel steering

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Maybe Poos can loan it to me while I sort out this thing.  I'm actually 
thinking it might not be too bad.  Or just drive it and let it be 
however it is, or sell it to someone not too discerning.


--R


On 10/11/17 6:41 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

"The check engine light is on."

--R


On 10/11/17 6:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Any check engine lights? If so or if some sort of tranny issue will 
probably need fancy computer


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I put those new rack bushings in, about a 10min job. Car drives 
really nicely now. The thing runs like a scalded cat except the 
engine and tranny on acceleration seem not to be communicating well, 
engine wants to spool up but the tranny can’t decide to shift right. 
It does downshift after thinking a second or two so the switch is ok 
I guess. The check engine light is on. I guess I need to figure out 
the issue. I need that fancy computer right?  It’s a 99.


--R
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Re: [MBZ] E300 dizzel steering

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

"The check engine light is on."

--R


On 10/11/17 6:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Any check engine lights? If so or if some sort of tranny issue will probably 
need fancy computer

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I put those new rack bushings in, about a 10min job. Car drives really nicely 
now. The thing runs like a scalded cat except the engine and tranny on 
acceleration seem not to be communicating well, engine wants to spool up but 
the tranny can’t decide to shift right. It does downshift after thinking a 
second or two so the switch is ok I guess. The check engine light is on. I 
guess I need to figure out the issue. I need that fancy computer right?  It’s a 
99.

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Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

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So where in ok is it going?

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> On Oct 11, 2017, at 4:51 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
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> Just a coinky-dink.  :)
> 
> -MMM-
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>> Klebbie?
>> Or just a coincidence the buyer's in OK?
>> Mitch.
>> 
>>> On October 11, 2017 at 4:52 PM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

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Awesome. 

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Re: [MBZ] E300 dizzel steering

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Any check engine lights? If so or if some sort of tranny issue will probably 
need fancy computer

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> On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> I put those new rack bushings in, about a 10min job. Car drives really nicely 
> now. The thing runs like a scalded cat except the engine and tranny on 
> acceleration seem not to be communicating well, engine wants to spool up but 
> the tranny can’t decide to shift right. It does downshift after thinking a 
> second or two so the switch is ok I guess. The check engine light is on. I 
> guess I need to figure out the issue. I need that fancy computer right?  It’s 
> a 99. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

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Just a coinky-dink.  :)

-MMM-

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> Klebbie?
> Or just a coincidence the buyer's in OK?
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] E300 dizzel steering

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Sure, bring it on down.  I’ll have some room in the driveway shortly.

-D


> On Oct 11, 2017, at 5:08 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Or you take it to Dan and have it polished too while you check out the 
> beaches of Florida.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 11/10/2017 3:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> Fancy computer, or you can ship it to kleb.  He'll probably give ya $400 if 
>> you ship it there!
>> 
>>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>> October 11, 2017 at 3:23 PM
>>> I put those new rack bushings in, about a 10min job. Car drives really 
>>> nicely now. The thing runs like a scalded cat except the engine and tranny 
>>> on acceleration seem not to be communicating well, engine wants to spool up 
>>> but the tranny can’t decide to shift right. It does downshift after 
>>> thinking a second or two so the switch is ok I guess. The check engine 
>>> light is on. I guess I need to figure out the issue. I need that fancy 
>>> computer right? It’s a 99.
>>> 
>>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

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Klebbie?
Or just a coincidence the buyer's in OK?
Mitch.

> On October 11, 2017 at 4:52 PM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes" 
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> Franklin on my desk.
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Re: [MBZ] E300 dizzel steering

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Or you take it to Dan and have it polished too while you check out the 
beaches of Florida.


RB

On 11/10/2017 3:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Fancy computer, or you can ship it to kleb.  He'll probably give ya 
$400 if you ship it there!



Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
October 11, 2017 at 3:23 PM
I put those new rack bushings in, about a 10min job. Car drives 
really nicely now. The thing runs like a scalded cat except the 
engine and tranny on acceleration seem not to be communicating well, 
engine wants to spool up but the tranny can’t decide to shift right. 
It does downshift after thinking a second or two so the switch is ok 
I guess. The check engine light is on. I guess I need to figure out 
the issue. I need that fancy computer right? It’s a 99.


--R






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[MBZ] Adieu 450SLC...

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

The former OK Don car is returning to OK with its new owner, leaving behind
only a couple of oil spots on the driveway and a stack of pictures of Ben
Franklin on my desk.

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] E300 dizzel steering

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Fancy computer, or you can ship it to kleb.  He'll probably give ya $400 
if you ship it there!



Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
October 11, 2017 at 3:23 PM
I put those new rack bushings in, about a 10min job. Car drives really 
nicely now. The thing runs like a scalded cat except the engine and 
tranny on acceleration seem not to be communicating well, engine wants 
to spool up but the tranny can’t decide to shift right. It does 
downshift after thinking a second or two so the switch is ok I guess. 
The check engine light is on. I guess I need to figure out the issue. 
I need that fancy computer right? It’s a 99.


--R
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[MBZ] E300 dizzel steering

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I put those new rack bushings in, about a 10min job. Car drives really nicely 
now. The thing runs like a scalded cat except the engine and tranny on 
acceleration seem not to be communicating well, engine wants to spool up but 
the tranny can’t decide to shift right. It does downshift after thinking a 
second or two so the switch is ok I guess. The check engine light is on. I 
guess I need to figure out the issue. I need that fancy computer right?  It’s a 
99. 

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I talked to the local guy last week.  He told me it took a dump again.  
Gonna stay down until the chicoms or somebody else starts buying scrap 
to make war.


1939:  USA embargoes sale of scrap to Nippon.   Two years later they 
bombed the snot out of our battlewagons.  They were really PO'd about 
the supply of scrap being cut off.

2017:  USA embargoes sale of scrap to Korcoms.  2019?


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
October 11, 2017 at 1:42 PM
Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high 
as $400




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Re: [MBZ] OT: This Car Makes me Puke

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Made to compete with the nissan (Ach!  Dat soon?)  that looks like a 
toad (or a frog if you'd rather).  Styling by cartoonist...the ones that 
draw transcenders...



Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
October 11, 2017 at 12:43 PM
While FFing through the ads on my DVR the other night I caught an 
involuntary glimpse of this Lexus. Why anyone would want something 
that looks like this is beyond me. Is this harkening back to the early 
days of really ugly Japanese auto styles or what?




http://www.tflcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016_Lexus_RX_350_F_SPORT_012.jpg



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Re: [MBZ] OT: This Car Makes me Puke

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

A lot of Japanese  steel has been used in our commercial and warships 
since the 70s.  At the time they were beating up the US steel producers 
pretty badly as they were lower priced and said to be of higher 
quality.  I guess that's the "defence" [sic] industry they spoke about.


LarryT


On 10/11/2017 3:14 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe the same as the 2017 Camry which has a grill thats reminiscient of the 
cow-catchers on the old steam train engines. Makes one wonder what they were 
smoking.
However, if you hit a small deer with that thing, it might stick there instead 
of coming up into the windshield.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/toyota/camry/2017/photos-exterior

Add to that the current scandal over the steel that is used in cars, airplanes,
and other important products in Japan:

"Kobe Steel scandal deepens over quality of products used in cars and aircraft"

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/11/japan-kobe-steel-scandal-ford-toyota-honda-mazda-boeing



Saw one of these on the street during lunch this week. I really dislike the 
grille treatment/design.

-D


On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:

While FFing through the ads on my DVR the other night I caught an involuntary 
glimpse of this Lexus. Why anyone would want something that looks like this is 
beyond me. Is this harkening back to the early days of really ugly Japanese 
auto styles or what?



http://www.tflcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016_Lexus_RX_350_F_SPORT_012.jpg



Greg





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Re: [MBZ] Flying Motorcycle

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> On October 11, 2017 at 3:14 PM G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Just think how exciting it would be to fall off that bike into the 4
> rotating propellers... it adds a whole new dimension to the term "Crash and
> Burn".
> 
> Or you are in hot pursuit and the battery pack runs empty at
> altitude

16' of altitude?
It sounds like they thought of your concern, if you want to fly at 20,000' you 
have to get out and let it go alone. 

"Four large propellers flank its corners allowing it to fly at a height of 5 
metres if mounted and 6km without a rider."

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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

That was a LOT of car 31 years ago too!

LarryT


On 10/11/2017 2:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value off it 
(and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the scrapyard today. 
Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost was $50,950 including 
$1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31 years ago.




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Re: [MBZ] Flying Motorcycle

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Hey! I like to live dangerously. I drive a Prius, you know.
Gerry

G Mann wrote:
> Just think how exciting it would be to fall off that bike into the 4
> rotating propellers... it adds a whole new dimension to the term "Crash and
> Burn".
> 
> Or you are in hot pursuit and the battery pack runs empty at
> altitude
> 
> Exciting stuff should be "a lot of fun"  at rehab...
> 
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:10 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I want one.
> >
> > https://www.thenational.ae/uae/dubai-police-unveils-
> > flying-hoversurf-at-gitex-1.665396
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Now what do I do?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no, that is a grossly oversized Fugly datsun peekup, mit star.


Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
October 10, 2017 at 4:08 PM
OH-I thought that might be the new pickup that MB is bringing out.

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Re: [MBZ] Now what do I do?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Spend $$,$$$!   ??


MG via Mercedes 
October 9, 2017 at 5:24 PM
My wife wants one of these but with more normal tires {265 16's) like 
on her Tacoma.


MG


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Re: [MBZ] Flying Motorcycle

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Just think how exciting it would be to fall off that bike into the 4
rotating propellers... it adds a whole new dimension to the term "Crash and
Burn".

Or you are in hot pursuit and the battery pack runs empty at
altitude

Exciting stuff should be "a lot of fun"  at rehab...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: This Car Makes me Puke

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Maybe the same as the 2017 Camry which has a grill thats reminiscient of the 
cow-catchers on the old steam train engines. Makes one wonder what they were 
smoking.
However, if you hit a small deer with that thing, it might stick there instead 
of coming up into the windshield.

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/toyota/camry/2017/photos-exterior

Add to that the current scandal over the steel that is used in cars, airplanes,
and other important products in Japan:

"Kobe Steel scandal deepens over quality of products used in cars and aircraft"

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/oct/11/japan-kobe-steel-scandal-ford-toyota-honda-mazda-boeing
 


> Saw one of these on the street during lunch this week. I really dislike the 
> grille treatment/design.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > While FFing through the ads on my DVR the other night I caught an 
> > involuntary glimpse of this Lexus. Why anyone would want something that 
> > looks like this is beyond me. Is this harkening back to the early days of 
> > really ugly Japanese auto styles or what?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.tflcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016_Lexus_RX_350_F_SPORT_012.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Greg
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Monarch

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's a real blast from the past. And it should probably stay there...
The grille is the only attractive feature.

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> > Butterfly?
> >
> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> They should put it on BAT and get $17k for it.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> >> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Should do you for another 20.
> >> >
> >> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> >> > Wickford RI
> >> >
> >> > On Oct 11, 2017 2:29 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I passed one driving down the interstate earlier today. First one I
> have
> >> >> seen in probably 20 years.
> >> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Monarch

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Mercury

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Butterfly?
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> They should put it on BAT and get $17k for it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Should do you for another 20.
>> >
>> > Dwight Giles Jr.
>> > Wickford RI
>> >
>> > On Oct 11, 2017 2:29 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I passed one driving down the interstate earlier today. First one I have
>> >> seen in probably 20 years.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The chinee steel market is way down.

--R


On 10/11/17 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I got $150 in 2009 for a stripped but rusty 300TD.

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Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high as
$400

Sent from my iPhone


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I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value

off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the
scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost
was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31
years ago.




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Re: [MBZ] Airline disaster

[G Mann via Mercedes]

My memory tells me the trigger on the radio bomb on the Lockerby flight was
one that worked on air pressure change.  Parts of the bomb were found by
investigation team and it was reconstructed to determine how it worked, as
I recall.

Due to weather on that day, the flight was given a different climb profile
and detonation was triggered over land... cargo holds are not pressurized
like cabin is.

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> The aircraft was destroyed by a bomb in a radio.  The bomb was built my
> Moomar Kaddafy's people.  It was in the luggage hold in a bag.  It went off
> early due I think to some schedule delay for the flight, so that it
> exploded over land not over open ocean. Within the last year or two was a
> show on PBS, Frontline maybe, about tracking down the guys responsible for
> organizing the whole thing.  I think the main  investigator was a man whose
> sister? was killed on the plane.  He spent a lot of time on the ground in
> Libya tracking down these guys.  One of them, who was caught, was released
> on "compassion" grounds because he supposedly had cancer.  Years later he
> was still doing quite well.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 10/10/17 10:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I just watched a superb Smithsonian Channel program on the Lockerbie crash
>> of Pan Am flight 103. I had mistakenly thought the plane was brought down
>> by a bomb that a girl had transported on board that was given to her by an
>> acquaintance. That was not the case, however. Does anyone remember the
>> situation I am thinking of? A girl as a favor took I believe a transistor
>> radio or some other electronic equipment from a middle eastern friend to
>> deliver to someone in the states. Then it blew up in the air. I tried
>> Googling it but no luck.
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

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I got $150 in 2009 for a stripped but rusty 300TD.

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> Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high as
> $400
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value
> off it (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the
> scrapyard today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost
> was $50,950 including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31
> years ago.
> >
> > 
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Monarch

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Butterfly?

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> They should put it on BAT and get $17k for it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > Should do you for another 20.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Oct 11, 2017 2:29 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
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> >> seen in probably 20 years.
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Re: [MBZ] Ignominy

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Wow scrap is way down. I used to get $200 for a hulk sometimes as high as $400

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value off it 
> (and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the scrapyard 
> today. Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost was $50,950 
> including $1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31 years ago. 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Monarch

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

They should put it on BAT and get $17k for it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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> 
> Should do you for another 20.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Oct 11, 2017 2:29 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> seen in probably 20 years.
>> 
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[MBZ] Ignominy

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I deconstructed the 86 420SEL and pulled most everything of any value off it 
(and probably a bunch of stuff that isn’t) and took it to the scrapyard today. 
Got $78.20 for the hulk. I have the window sticker, cost was $50,950 including 
$1050 gas guzzler tax. That was a lot of money 31 years ago. 



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Re: [MBZ] Monarch

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Should do you for another 20.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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Re: [MBZ] Mighty quiet around here today....

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You have been pooferated

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[MBZ] Monarch

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I passed one driving down the interstate earlier today. First one I have seen 
in probably 20 years. 

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[MBZ] Flying Motorcycle

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I want one.

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/dubai-police-unveils-flying-hoversurf-at-gitex-1.665396

Video:
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Re: [MBZ] OT: This Car Makes me Puke

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Looks like a bug.


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 Date: 2017-10-11  12:46 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: "d...@penoff.com"  
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: This Car Makes me Puke 
Saw one of these on the street during lunch this week. I really dislike the 
grille treatment/design.

-D

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
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> While FFing through the ads on my DVR the other night I caught an involuntary 
> glimpse of this Lexus. Why anyone would want something that looks like this 
> is beyond me. Is this harkening back to the early days of really ugly 
> Japanese auto styles or what?
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.tflcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016_Lexus_RX_350_F_SPORT_012.jpg
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: This Car Makes me Puke

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Saw one of these on the street during lunch this week. I really dislike the 
grille treatment/design.

-D

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> While FFing through the ads on my DVR the other night I caught an involuntary 
> glimpse of this Lexus. Why anyone would want something that looks like this 
> is beyond me. Is this harkening back to the early days of really ugly 
> Japanese auto styles or what?
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.tflcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016_Lexus_RX_350_F_SPORT_012.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> Greg
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[MBZ] Mighty quiet around here today....

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

-D

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[MBZ] OT: This Car Makes me Puke

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

While FFing through the ads on my DVR the other night I caught an involuntary 
glimpse of this Lexus. Why anyone would want something that looks like this is 
beyond me. Is this harkening back to the early days of really ugly Japanese 
auto styles or what?

 

http://www.tflcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016_Lexus_RX_350_F_SPORT_012.jpg

 

Greg

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] Airline disaster

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

A Bombeat radio cassette player with Semtex in it?

That has to qualify as the most extreme pun ever concocted. 
Who says terrorists don't have a (warped) sense of humor?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] W113 for sale by the Classic Center

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They don't want to have any regrets over selling it too cheaply.

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Re: [MBZ] Airline disaster

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

But I was thinking there was a second airline disaster involving
a terrorist bomb that was conveyed to a girl friend to carry on board.

The Pan Am 103 bomb was in unaccompanied luggage dropped off in Germany.
There was no personal connection, according to the program.

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Art via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Andrew,
> You were not mistaken; that’s what happened. I don’t know what this
> Smithsonian Channel program claimed, but the facts are that after an
> extensive reconstruction and analysis of the bits and pieces of the jet it
> was proven that the explosion of a semtex bomb hidden in a Toshiba Bombeat
> SF-16 radio cassette player inside a Samsonite suitcase was the cause of
> the accident. They even found and identified pieces of the electronic
> timer. The flight was delayed so the bomb went off over land instead of
> over the water as the bombers had planned. Two Libyans were finally handed
> over to Scotland for prosecution by Muammar Gaddafi <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi> after extensive pressure
> from the UN.  One was convicted and sentenced to life. He was released due
> to terminal cancer and died a few years later.
> Regards,
> Addison
>
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2017, Andrew wrote:
>
> I just watched a superb Smithsonian Channel program on the Lockerbie crash
> of Pan Am flight 103. I had mistakenly thought the plane was brought down
> by a bomb that a girl had transported on board that was given to her by an
> acquaintance. That was not the case, however. Does anyone remember the
> situation I am thinking of? A girl as a favor took I believe a transistor
> radio or some other electronic equipment from a middle eastern friend to
> deliver to someone in the states. Then it blew up in the air. I tried
> Googling it but no luck.
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Re: [MBZ] Airline disaster

[Art via Mercedes]

Andrew,
You were not mistaken; that’s what happened. I don’t know what this Smithsonian 
Channel program claimed, but the facts are that after an extensive 
reconstruction and analysis of the bits and pieces of the jet it was proven 
that the explosion of a semtex bomb hidden in a Toshiba Bombeat SF-16 radio 
cassette player inside a Samsonite suitcase was the cause of the accident. They 
even found and identified pieces of the electronic timer. The flight was 
delayed so the bomb went off over land instead of over the water as the bombers 
had planned. Two Libyans were finally handed over to Scotland for prosecution 
by Muammar Gaddafi  after 
extensive pressure from the UN.  One was convicted and sentenced to life. He 
was released due to terminal cancer and died a few years later.
Regards,
Addison



On Oct 11, 2017, Andrew wrote:

I just watched a superb Smithsonian Channel program on the Lockerbie crash
of Pan Am flight 103. I had mistakenly thought the plane was brought down
by a bomb that a girl had transported on board that was given to her by an
acquaintance. That was not the case, however. Does anyone remember the
situation I am thinking of? A girl as a favor took I believe a transistor
radio or some other electronic equipment from a middle eastern friend to
deliver to someone in the states. Then it blew up in the air. I tried
Googling it but no luck.
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Re: [MBZ] Airline disaster

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The aircraft was destroyed by a bomb in a radio.  The bomb was built my 
Moomar Kaddafy's people.  It was in the luggage hold in a bag.  It went 
off early due I think to some schedule delay for the flight, so that it 
exploded over land not over open ocean. Within the last year or two was 
a show on PBS, Frontline maybe, about tracking down the guys responsible 
for organizing the whole thing.  I think the main  investigator was a 
man whose sister? was killed on the plane.  He spent a lot of time on 
the ground in Libya tracking down these guys.  One of them, who was 
caught, was released on "compassion" grounds because he supposedly had 
cancer.  Years later he was still doing quite well.


--R


On 10/10/17 10:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I just watched a superb Smithsonian Channel program on the Lockerbie crash
of Pan Am flight 103. I had mistakenly thought the plane was brought down
by a bomb that a girl had transported on board that was given to her by an
acquaintance. That was not the case, however. Does anyone remember the
situation I am thinking of? A girl as a favor took I believe a transistor
radio or some other electronic equipment from a middle eastern friend to
deliver to someone in the states. Then it blew up in the air. I tried
Googling it but no luck.
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[MBZ] OT Italian cars need Italian Tuneups

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://jalopnik.com/someone-fixed-that-poor-craigslisters-maserati-money-to-1819186921

Thus the name...

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Charleston SC
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