Re: [MBZ] Trunk latch

[Hendrik Riessen]

No I think it can be overriden with the key, well it can on the sedan models 
anyway.
- Original Message - 
From: "kevin kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trunk latch


I'm just guessing here, but I think your problem is due to the nonop 
vacuum
lock  system.  IT has the trunk locked which bypasses anything done with 
the
key.  I would think that everything would be right again once the battery 
is

charged and reconnectede.

Good luck!

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula


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Re: [MBZ] oooookkkkkkkkkk

[Hendrik Riessen]

Isn't that Marshalls 201?

Hendrik
only joking, Marshalls hood ornament is much bigger

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Mailing List" 


Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] okk



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190D-1984-Mercedes-190-Diesel-one-of-a-kind_W0QQitemZ160053599233QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6315QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: [MBZ] La Carrera Panamericana racer --here it is!

[Hendrik Riessen]

German version of the Blues mobile, it's got cop tyres, cop suspension and a 
two litre Diesel.


Hendrik
who wouldn't mind an old roundie for the cool factor

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] La Carrera Panamericana racer --here it is!


This is the car I saw

http://www.lacarrerapanamericana.com.mx/gal_muestra06_2.asp?foto=Galeria06/gd/205.jpg

5

252
Thomas Hanna Jörg Müller mercedes 5 Histórica "A" 0:32:07
0:14:44 0:31:57 0:35:12 0:54:40 0:22:12 0:14:24
3:25:16

5



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Re: [MBZ] OT Big uptick in spam

[Hendrik Riessen]

Funnily enough this thread ended up in my spam folder:-) however according 
to the K9 score thingy it is not classed as spam, so who knows what is going 
on.


- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Big uptick in spam



I've noticed a lot more. but it's automatically going into the spam
folder. so I don't really care.

On 11/24/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Has anyone else out there that uses gmail been getting a lot more spam
lately? Every six hours or so, I get the same crop of "offers" or "prize
notifications" from jc penny, walmart, ebay and home depot.

Brian


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Re: [MBZ] parking/driving/fog lights

[Hendrik Riessen]

Since about 1993 we have had a law in Oz that motorbikes have to have their 
headlights wired to come on when the ignition is turned on. Not that it 
makes much difference with all those geniuses driving cars, so far this year 
out of a total of about 104 road deaths in South Australia, 24 have been 
motorcyclists. To be fair most of them are inexperienced riders with 
powerful Japanese bikes, it's the old "I see em going fast on TV, so I can 
go fast too" syndrome.


- Original Message - 
From: "ernest breakfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] parking/driving/fog lights


while traveling in the Deserts, it's clear that vehicles with headlights 
on are
much more visible even/especially on the brightest of days. it's a 
recommended

practice at many parks in the Deserts.


cheers!
e


Levi Smith wrote:


However, if the sun is
out and the day is quite clear and I'm on a divided highway I don't have
much doubt that the headlights aren't going to make much difference.



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Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist

[Hendrik Riessen]

Yeah I'm working my way through the Probst book at the moment, however to 
test a jetronic system you need a fuel pressure test kit with two gauges to 
see the difference between the fuel pressures in the system.


- Original Message - 
From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [MB] Please help me to find another maillist



OK Don wrote:

The "Bosch Fuel Injection and Enigine Management" book by Probst
(http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Fuel-Injection-Engine-Management/dp/0837603005/sr=8-1/qid=1164721835/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-4223530-6188429?ie=UTF8&s=books)
is good - and will help you understand what parts are for what. You
will need the tools that David listed as well.




That's an excellent book.

This is actually a pretty simple fuel injection system, so don't let it
intimidate you.  I think the key things to remember are:

1. Do all the normal ignition tune up stuff before you try to
troubleshoot the fuel injection.  Spark plugs, wires, distributor cap.
Also replace all the vacuum hoses if they're old and cracked.  Make sure
SNIPPED>>> 

Re: [MBZ] leaky trunk 1983 300sD

[Hendrik Riessen]

This is a job that is best done from the top after removing the panel 
protectors. Cleaning all the dust and dirt out and thouroughly cleaning the 
drains. Takes about an half hour to do, which should last at least a year 
whereas the screwdriver from the bottom method takes about 2 minutes and 
last about 3 minutes.
While the panel protetor is off you can take you power aerial out and 
service it, also you can check the area behind the protectors for rust. 
There is a join near the corners where rust likes to live if the factory 
sealant has not been properly applied.
Then again 2 minutes with a screwdriver under the car and a few beers in 
front of the TV sounds good too.


Hendrik
who sometimes cuts corners but it always comes back to haunt me

- Original Message - 
From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] leaky trunk 1983 300sD


Make sure the trunk drains aren't clogged.  I'm not sure about the W126,
but on the W123 there's one at the bottom of each side bin.  They show
up underneath as short rubber hoses.  On my car they plugged and the
side bins filled up with water, greatly aggravating the condensation
problem.  I unclogged them by sticking a screwdriver up into them and
wiggling it around.

You also may want to pull out the carpet.  It can hold an awful lot of
water.

The condensation isn't so much of a problem if the water leaves the
trunk as quickly as it comes in.  It's when the trunk gets wet and stays
wet that you get a lot of condensation.


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Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig

[Hendrik Riessen]

I think Kaleb is on a fishing expedition, get some interest going before 
putting a ridiculous price on them.

Commonly called a car tease.
Pretty soon he'll post a pic or two.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In need of a new rig



that's like a kid saying "Oh, seems to me I have a surplus of candy.  NONE
FOR YOU!"

On 12/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I now seem to have 2 91 300D 2.5 turbos.  None for sale at the moment
though.

Zeitgeist wrote:

> I'm testing the waters to see if I can locate a suitable replacement 
> for

my
> wife's reliable but aging and ugly W123.
>
> Criteria:
>
> I'd like to find something a bit newer and with some safety equipment,
like
> ABS and airbags.  Additionally, I'd like the vehicle to get better fuel
> mileage (diesel, of course).  I'd like to spend < $7k
>
> Candidates (in order of preference):
>
> 1 - '87 190D 2.5 turbo
> 2 - '90-'93 300D 2.5 turbo
> 3 - '87 300D/TD
> 4 - '96-'97 Passat tdi
>
> Anyone know of a suitable vehicle meeting these criteria?
>
> TIA

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  81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] anybody need a 5 speed Getrag?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Depends on which side the starter motor is, the M102 and 103 have the 
starter on the opposite side to Diesel motors.
My 85 201 has a MB 5 speed box while a 81 230TE I bought and dismantled some 
time ago had a Getrag 5 speed in it.
Also of note the box in  my 201 has a 124 part number on it, so this leads 
me to think that this particular gearbox was specifically developed for the 
124 chassis and 123 cars had the Getrag box if a 5 speed was required.
However Diesels are different in that they use a bell housing which bolts to 
the gearbox, whereas the boxes I have are one piece except for a bit that is 
bolted onto the back.


- Original Message - 
From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] anybody need a 5 speed Getrag?



Isn't the 5th gear in that tranny a 1:1 ratio...not overdrive?  If it fits
in a W201 it should fit any inline engine found in the W124 chassis,
correct?

On 12/5/06, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I think this has been discussed before... but will these work in an '87
300D?  If not, what manual trannies will?  (Considering power and torque
output, and also appropriate gear ratios for comfortable highway
cruising...)

What kind of 5-speed was used in the six-cylinder R129?  That engine made
more HP and about equal torque to a stock 603, IIRC.



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state"
'87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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Re: [MBZ] Ritter vs Stern

[Hendrik Riessen]

Funnily enough in my experience Stu is actually not that worried about 
personal criticism, well that was years ago, he may well have become a 
little sensitive.


- Original Message - 
From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ritter vs Stern



Someone is definitely going to Hell for posting something like that.

On 12/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Here's a post from the Ritter list taking His Eminence to task. Question
is,
will it be Ritter or VanCleef that kicks the poster off?

Re: [MBZ] Bosio nozzles

[Hendrik Riessen]

To a certain extend I disagree with that, is the Indian industry able to 
produce metals of the same standard as that of the major metal producers? It 
is one thing to assemble products in cheap labour countries and quite 
another to produce them from scratch.
A while back they sold some Indian made motorbikes over here, which where 
copies of an old English design; however they soon had a reputation for 
wearing out real quick due to the poor metals used in construction. This is 
not to say that the Indian metal industry has advanced to a higher level.
Personally I do think that Bosch standards are starting to slip in the quest 
for profit.


Hendrik

- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bosio nozzles




There is NOTHING inherently wrong with products that are made in India
(or anywhere else) as long as the same standards are employed. When high
standards AREN'T enforced, it doesn't matter where the product is made
either!

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

[Hendrik Riessen]

Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book. 
Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad and 
contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer.


- Original Message - 
From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction



SHA-HILL!

yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill.

On 12/11/06, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8

Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

[Hendrik Riessen]

How can you do that? Doesn't the ebay number remain the same with 2nd chance 
offers?


- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction



Could be a shill.  I often send 2nd chance offers if I have more than
one of an item though.

Hendrik Riessen wrote:


Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book.
Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad 
and

contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer.

- Original Message - 
From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction




SHA-HILL!

yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill.

On 12/11/06, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Time To Get Under the Scares

[Hendrik Riessen]

Ahh yes the boy who cried wolf. However we must keep an open mind about our 
future and just because the things that past doomsday sayers have gone on 
about have not happened, does not mean the things we are currently fretting 
about about will not have an affect.
It would not harm us to use up less reources and/or share those resources 
more fairly in order to give others a better standard of living.
Rampant capitalism and it's affect on society is one of the things we have 
to look at.
An example is cars, we are addicted to them. That is good for the economy 
but bad for the social fabric.
Anyway it's Christmas, time to spend money to show how much we love each 
other.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:50 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Time To Get Under the Scares



30 years ago it was called Global Cooling and Limits to Growth, some guy
who used to show up on Johnny Carson all the time told us we were all
supposed to be starving in the cold dark by now, with all the oil gone,

SNIPPED>

Re: [MBZ] These Pics Make Me Want to Buy!

[Hendrik Riessen]

Far as I know 20 years after the end of production, a chassis becomes a 
classic in DC's view. That makes all 123's classics but the 126 has a few 
more to go.


- Original Message - 
From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] These Pics Make Me Want to Buy!


He missed one thing - according to MBUSA, that car is already a classic. 
As

soon as the 2007 models were being offered here in the USA, the 1982 cars
became 25 years old and a "classic".  MBCA calculated age back from 2007 
at
the recent Starfest Concours in September!  (My '83SD becomes a classic 
next

fall when the 2008 models come out!)

Werner

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: [MBZ] These Pics Make Me Want to Buy!



So they were thinkin', "What pics will help me sell the car..."

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/249998160.html


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 164K
'87 Acura Legend  179K
Litchfield Park, AZ



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Re: [MBZ] correct name?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Talking about breaking things, within a week of me having the 230E the 
Missus had smashed both seat belt buckels. How you ask? Well she has a 
female way of undoing the seat belt, which involves twisting it in such a 
way that it does not retract and the male part of the buckle ends up in the 
door and when closing the door gets smashed. Just one of lifes little 
annoyances.


- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] correct name?



I call them "the things wives and kids, when opening a door, kick and break
in half"

Bob R

Re: [MBZ] correct name?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Depends on mood, not to worry the 123 loves having it's doors shut firmly.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Kueny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] correct name?



Do the females in your life slam car doors much harder than needed, as the
ones in mine do?  Never did understand that.

Chris K
Cayce, SC

Re: [MBZ] correct name?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Yeah, the junk yard. Although I won't be replacing them until I am gonna 
sell it.


- Original Message - 
From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] correct name?




BTW, have you found a supplier of replacement belt assemblies?

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)

[Hendrik Riessen]

Could have been worse, could have been hit by a truck without crumple zone.
Ohh what a feeling, squashed like a bug.
Anyway the weights:
C = 1500kg
E = 1650kg
S = 1950kg
Toy Cory = 1200kg
Those are kerb weights.

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)


Just from the angles I'm seeing here that looks like a S Class Benz which 
would probably weigh close to 2 1/2 tons. That Toyota didn't even have a 
chance


Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL   118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)


If that's a Toyota, it's gotta be like the Corolla or other smallest model
they have.  I'd almost dare to say that you're simply looking at a matter 
of

difference in mass.  I'm guessing the Toy is closer to 1 ton and the
Mercedes more like 2.  If that's you're theory in accident survival (not
necessarily a bad one if you're in the bigger vehicle) then you might as
well go get yourself a Yukon or Excursion or some such thing...
Or feel free to tell me if I'm mistaken and The toy is a lot heavier or 
the

Benz a lot lighter...

Levi
Head-ons at highway speeds (in both directions) are a bad idea.

On 12/19/06, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


http://benzinsider.com/

  scroll down ever so slightly for 4 photos. Yikes! Can anyone ID the two
cars re: models?

  Chris




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-1985 300SD, 218K, "Wulf"
-1982 300Dt, 117K, "little blue klatter box"
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, "One Banger"
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Re: [MBZ] "Christine"??? M.B. radio

[Hendrik Riessen]

The problem there is you might turn the radio down while you are driving and 
then forget to switch it off. End result = dead battery.


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Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:03 PM
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off w. ign. sw. off???; i thought that these radios were wired to only
work when key is turned on??? anyone heard of this before;


A nice thing about the semi-stock Becker I put into the 190D is that
it'll come on, key off, just by pushing the ON button again.  They're
wired to run off of either power feed, it's really quite elegant.

When it works.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] weights

[Hendrik Riessen]

Everything is bigger in the US and bigger again in Texas. Guess they have to 
strengthen everything to cope with the huge people and supersized take away 
food.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] weights



<>


All out of date. Go to MBUSA.com for weights of current US models.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Sexual Intercourse?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Yeah, a bit steep for a 123 station wagon, especially as it does not appear 
to be a 7 seater. However what other people do with their money is their 
business.

Now if this was John Lennons 123 wagon, then we might be in the ball park.

- Original Message - 
From: "TimothyPilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:56 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Fick?



$14k... >
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Re: [MBZ] todays crackhead

[Hendrik Riessen]

Thank you for that Kaleb, however I think we have all worked out by now that 
there are a lot of people on stealbay that are dreaming/hoping to find a 
sucker who will pay that sort of 's for their perfect vehicle.
Perhaps if you narrow your search criteria then you won't have to look at 
all these overpriced vehicles, which seem to upset you quite a bit. Maybe 
you could put in a search criteria that only finds rusted out heaps under 
500 slides:-)


Hendrik
who scored a set of genuine MB mags with near new tyres for AU$365 but 
shipping was a killer (ebay # 170057683548)


- Original Message - 
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:39 AM
Subject: [MBZ] todays crackhead



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190e-1985-Mercedes-190e-49-947-actual-miles-beautiful_W0QQitemZ190067180963QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon

[Hendrik Riessen]

Ooooh, they may be a little pricey, best of to stick with steel:-)

- Original Message - 
From: "woodlandtaylors" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon



Know if they had hinges in gold for 123?

Dennis T

Re: [MBZ] 126 Antenna

[Hendrik Riessen]

OK, you can do the slack thing or you can choose to do this properly. It is 
recommended to remove the whole antenna assembly and pull it apart. Water 
and dirt gets into the workings. Also there is a little wheel in there that 
turns against the plastic winding thingy. What happens is that it stops 
turning but the mast will still go up and down, with the end result being 
that it develops a flat spot and eventually it does not apply enough 
pressure and the antenna will start to stick.
If you service it now you may get away with a good clean and lube job but 
once it has this flat spot you will have to buy a repair kit like this 
http://www.soundlabsgroup.com.au/c/60-Hirschmann-Parts/Spare+Parts


Hendrik
with only one working antenna out of three Hirschies

- Original Message - 
From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Antenna


Thanks guys - That has been bugging me for awhile.  I'll pick up a mast 
from

Rusty and follow the directions.
Your wisdom is much appreciated.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  285 k miles

Re: [MBZ] 126 Antenna

[Hendrik Riessen]

The thing is that they are relatively easy to remove and disassemble, what I 
usally do is to take the motor out so I can turn the mechanism by hand and 
fit the new mast that way. This way it is easy to see/feel how the thing is 
working.
That little steel wheel is critical to the operation of the aerial because 
it applies pressure, without that pressure the mast won't go all the way 
up/down but rather just move the mast up and down in the easy 2 and 3 parts 
of the mast.
I usally pull any electric aerial I come across at the wreckers apart to see 
if there are any good parts inside, if not I reassemble the aerial and put 
it back in the boot for someone else to look at/buy.


- Original Message - 
From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Antenna



Hendrik - Thanks for the note.  The antenna went down to the last section
[leaving about 8" out of the car] until the car wash jockey pounded on it.
It still goes down just that far, but now will not go all the way up [it
leaves at least one section not extended].  I do think there is an 
internal
problem somewhere - and it sounds like I should try some disassembly to 
see

what all is broken.  I suspect a new mast will be needed, at least.  I
suppose in 25 years I can expect a bit of wear and tear, and a bit of time
and TLC will be a good investment.  It makes sense to check twice and 
order

once rather than the other way around...
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  282 k Miles

Re: [MBZ] Who?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Isn't he the one who sells popane and propane accesories in Texas?

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Who?



<>


Who's Hank Hill? I musta missed that one.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Ten most over-rated "sports' cars/from the road tests

[Hendrik Riessen]

Even better, for some, is that no Porsches made the list.yet:-)

- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ten most over-rated "sports' cars/from the road tests



The Good News..!!!

No Mercedes-Benz cars are on the list!!

Chuck
Phoenix AZ

On Jan 2, 2007, at 7:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] First CL of 07

[Hendrik Riessen]

What they meant to say was "selling for a friend..who is in jail and 
needs money fast before the big boys get to him"


- Original Message - 
From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:21 PM
Subject: [MBZ] First CL of 07




http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/256088641.html  - Armored Benz

Re: [MBZ] Over-rated

[Hendrik Riessen]

What's wrong with the 924? Alright, in the world of sports cars it may come 
up a little short but for what it was meant to be, it actually worked pretty 
well. Sure, perhaps it should have worn an AUDI badge and then the Porsche 
purists would have been happy. However Porsche managment decided it was good 
enough to have a Porsche badge, so it must have been not too bad.


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Over-rated


>


I did wonder about that. The 924 is a possibility but since it's never had 
a

good review

RLE

Re: [MBZ] Spotless?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Ooooh, the double whammy, getting the car dirty on the outside and the 
inside.
I am sometimes amazed at people who love their car more than their kids. 
That's why I drive old cars, doesn't matter if they get it dirty, scratch it 
or sit on the boot. I do draw the line on sitting on the roof. A while ago 
my 5 year old managed to knock the webber down the stairs and into the side 
of the 123, leaving a little dent in the drivers door. Big deal, just 
another one to add to the collection.


- Original Message - 
From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotless?



Try living on a dirt road and raising two young kids...oh, and the butler
simply refuses to wash the Rolls.

Re: [MBZ] Spotless?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Life is too short to worry about dirty cars, plus I have the excuse that we 
are expierencing a major drought and are only allowed to use a bucket to 
wash cars.


Hendrik
with ze filthy German automobiles.oh the shame

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotless?



On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Poor cosmetic care and poor maintenance go hand in hand.


Bravo Sierra. I keep mine in tip-top shape, but don't have time (9 hr day
with a 2 hr commute each way for padding) to hand wax it. It sees a

Re: [MBZ] crackhead of the day

[Hendrik Riessen]

Ahh come on Kaleb it's a Deisel.

- Original Message - 
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: [MBZ] crackhead of the day



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Collector-Item-Vintage-Mercedes-Deisel_W0QQitemZ230073177766QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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[MBZ] Try this with your 240D

[Hendrik Riessen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c_Lo2HperU
Perhaps with a 300DT

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

[Hendrik Riessen]

A good parallel to look at is Grundig, which once upon a time was the 
Mercedes of electronic goods. I bought a Grundig TV a couple of years ago 
which was priced a bit less than a Sony. Anyway it has turned out to be a 
piece of junk with crappy sound and issues with the picture. Well it finally 
died altogether(thankfully a couple of weeks before the warranty ran out) 
and I pulled the back off it to see if there was anything I could see wrong. 
To my surprise I found that the picture tube was made by LG in Korea and 
some of the other components where made by Phillips.
Not happy that a supposed quality German brand is using parts made in Korea, 
I surfed the net for more info and found that Grundig is now owned by a 
English and Turkish consortium who appear to be trading off the good name 
built up over years.
I will not be recommending Grundig products to anyone, same with Mercedes, 
trading off the name while Karl and Gottlieb are spinning in their graves.
However all is not lost, I heard the other day that DC is pulling out of the 
Airbus venture to get some money together to spend on developing cars.


- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality



and yet they sell more cars then ever before.  people just like junk?

as i have mentioned many times before, mercedes is the new jaguar.
it's pretty much over.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality

[Hendrik Riessen]

Well that's what you get for talking to senile old janitors:-)
Seriously though I can see his point, the reason why MB was perceived as 
being so good was that the competition was so bad. The only real competition 
MB used to have was BMW but now even VW are building limos. AUDI used to be 
a very spartan vehicle but are now building some very nice cars. Volvo used 
to be like IKEA, you have to be Swedish to like the look of their 
stuff(although we did buy some big beer glasses and a man size door mat from 
them but that is all I liked in IKEA) but now Volvo are building some nice 
looking machinery.


- Original Message - 
From: "Rusty Cullens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Quality




Ok, all this talk of mercedes quality has me going. I must tell a true
story of the last time I was in Germany. I was meeting with a very large
Exporter of MB parts and during a break I was speaking with a 80 year old
German fella that had been with Mercedes his whole life. We were 
discussing

the demise of Mercedes workmanship and I said to him "Mercedes sure isn't
what it once was". His reply? "It never was" Hmmm.

Re: [MBZ] Dry,wet,what?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Perhaps the scavenger pump stopped working?

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:32 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Dry,wet,what?



<>

Do tell! This is a trick question, right?


RLE

Re: [MBZ] #_$(_(*& 300 CD floppy glove box door

[Hendrik Riessen]

I usally use two little screwdrivers and a larger screwdriver, it would be 
aesy enough to build a tool for the job(such as an old screwdriver with part 
cut out of the middle) but I muck around with thoses things so rarely I 
can't be bothered.
If you are fussy you can put a drop of mild thread locker on em to keep em 
tight but I don't bother.


- Original Message - 
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] #_$(_(*& 300 CD floppy glove box door



Thanks.

BTW, does anyone know what the specialized tool is called that
removes/tightens those threaded washers with the notches on either
side that secure the GB hinges?  Pin Wrench??  Split ring pliers???

Re: [MBZ] Pimp my ride ...

[Hendrik Riessen]

It's not easy being green, even harder when you are lime green with a 
handbag interior.

BTW what happened to the front bumper? And that grille needs some attention.

- Original Message - 
From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pimp my ride ...



Much usage of Banned language

That is just plain HIDEOUS I can see maybe doing something that
disgusting to Gump, but 

Pluck my eyeballs out and wash them in turpentine after seeing that mess

Re: [MBZ] PnP adventure

[Hendrik Riessen]

There is no such thing as a 110 SEL, the finnie was MB's E class in the 
sixties and an ugly thing it was too. What where they smoking when they came 
up with that rear end.
The S classes of the day (108/9) did have SEL models, which stands for super 
injected long.


- Original Message - 
From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] PnP adventure



Ok I am stumped.  What's a W110 SEL in layperson's terms?  What year?

Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason

[Hendrik Riessen]

Nothing much, the 280TE was the top of the line wagon for Benz, so should 
have all the bells and whistles like power windows, cruise, wood 
console/dash and other bits and pieces found in the 280's.
Ecxpect to get 15l/100ks when tuned properly and running on good fuel, other 
than that the 110 motor is pretty bulletproof if the maintenance has been 
done.

P.S. Are you on the Ozbenz forum? http://forum.mbspares.com.au/index.php
It is more focused on Oz and NZ models than the Yankee lists.

- Original Message - 
From: "Euan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 8:26 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason



But first I need wise counsel. Aside from the obvious differences
(petrol = thirsty but gruntier - no more making written applications to
overtake on the highway), how do the 280 TEs differ from my cherished
300TD? What kinds of problems are endemic to this breed?


Euan

1985 300TD 5-spd manual
205K mi

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Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason

[Hendrik Riessen]

About 2-3 grand more than a sedan.
300TD's are getting very rare, mostly 230TE's and a few 280TE's.
People are just not selling them.

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trembling on the brink of (t)reason



it's faster than the TD.  it suffers the usual mercedes straight six
valve guide/seal problems.  it will punish you more if you get a
poorly maintained example.

what's a nice 123 wagon selling for down there?

Re: [MBZ] Somebody Did Somebody Wrong....

[Hendrik Riessen]

Well it may make him/her feel better, however I am guessing you people have 
laws relating to the sale of motor vehicles?
As such if the buyer is not happy then he/she should have some legal 
recourse and should not have to have a whinge on CL.
Maybe it is a case of someone paying too much for a car and then getting 
shitty about it.


- Original Message - 
From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody Did Somebody Wrong




Most people would pay no attention to something like this and just write 
the fellow off as some sort of nut case.

So he is pretty much wasting his time I would think.

Randy

-Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] Antenna mast removal

[Hendrik Riessen]

I find the best way is to remove the whole assembly from the car and then 
replace mast/service the unit, I have had very little(read that as no) luck 
trying to replace the mast while the antenna unit is in the car. I know it 
should be possible but I don't have the patience for it. Plus if the unit is 
taken apart it can be inspected/lubricated.


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Antenna mast removal



I know this has been discussed before, and the procedure should be
easy.


'tis, usually.


I can't remove the antenna mast from my 83 300D.  I removed the
notched
threaded ring, the black gasket, and turned on the radio...


Notched ring?  The thing you unscrew is usually a flatted chrome 'nut'
at the top.  It may be that you removed the mount for the antenna body
itself, not the mast release collar.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] wtf?

[Hendrik Riessen]

This would be handy to bring the pair back home with
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&itemcount=2&sspagename=MERC_VI_RUPX_RUPX_Pr2_PcY_BID_Stores_IT&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=UpSell_LogicX&viewitem=&refitem=300077195009&item=300075448308&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
- Original Message - 
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: [MBZ] wtf?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mersedes-Benz-a-pair-of-them-1974-models_W0QQitemZ300077195009QQihZ020QQcategoryZ33620QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal

[Hendrik Riessen]

The best method is to push it from behind after disconnecting the speedo 
cable, the problem with using coathangers is the potential to cause damage. 
The cluster can be fairly tight in there and if you are going to push from 
behind, place a towel in front of the cluster as you push it. Why? Because 
it may come out with a rush and break of one of the little knobs on the 
front. How do I know? Because I have not been able to set my clock since the 
last time I removed the cluster.


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal



Was wondering what it takes/how to remove the cluster.
Does it slide out with the coat hanger positioned on its side like the
126 model does?


Yep, pretty much.

Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal

[Hendrik Riessen]

Well, whichever method is used, I would still recommend placing a 
towel/large rag in front of the cluster. Just in case it does pop out and 
hit the steering wheel. I suppose to make it easier, removing the steering 
wheel is not a bad idea.
Anyway removing a cluster out of a 123 is a picece of cake compared to a 
201, especially if you have big hands.


- Original Message - 
From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal



Hendrik - there's a reason that M-B makes and recommends 2 small hooks to
get the cluster out - it's easier and a lot safer, as you can stop pulling
when it "pops" free!  (and a couple of thin steel hooks, or even coat
hangers inserted in the correct place, won't hurt anything.)

Werner

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

[Hendrik Riessen]

The problem I see is that we do not understand enough about our atmosphere 
and how everything interacts.
This is a number one priority as far as I am concerned. We have to know what 
is going on.
If scientists continue to just guess, pretty soon the average person is 
going to lose interest and start thinking that it is just a big hooh haah to 
get money for research.
Once we know what is happening we can prioritise our efforts to reverse the 
damage, no good focusing on one thing only to find that thing is not as much 
of a problem as something else.
I remember seeing something on TV a while back that showed how pollution is 
actually keeping the planet cool by creating a layer of smog that acts as a 
shield. This program used the grounding of all aircraft in the US after 9/11 
to give an example of the theory. It showed that due to the lack of 
commercial aircraft in the air and a subsequent reduction in jet emmisions, 
all of a sudden there was a relatively massive jump in temperatures across 
the US.
What I got out of this TV show was that we know very little about what is 
going on up there and a lot of the current knowledge is guesswork and 
theories.


- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Gallagher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal



Correction: It's parts per million in volume and cause of acid rain 
CO2 levels are at very small amount in the air around the earth,
SNIPPED> 

Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!

[Hendrik Riessen]

And there are a lot of things that ladies do that men have no interest in 
learning anything about.


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:42 PM
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understanding the way mechanical things work. Yes, physical strength
comes
into play, but setting that aside, the majority of women literally do
not
know how to change a tire.


And, more to the point, seem to have absolutely no interest in ever
learning how.  Aggressively so.  There are, of course, exceptions, but
they are few and far between.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal

[Hendrik Riessen]

How is it a lot of trouble? All you do is take out the centre star thingy 
and unscrew the nut. Long as you mark where the wheel sat it is a easy job. 
Recently done one in a 201 and it took all of 5 minutes.


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hit the steering wheel. I suppose to make it easier, removing the
steering
wheel is not a bad idea.


It can help, but it's a lot of trouble.  (It's required, of course,
on a 107.)

Re: [MBZ] Plating kits [was Re: Euro lamps]

[Hendrik Riessen]

It appears they do a silver plate kit. Which they say is ideal for headlight 
reflectors.


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Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:54 AM
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http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/plugnplate.htm

This looks like what you mean. The kits under "chrome plating" are
hundreds of dollars.


Yeah.  Headlight reflectors aren't chrome.  They're silver, or aluminum.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Plating kits [was Re: Euro lamps]

[Hendrik Riessen]

Well I guess when you polish the silver you pull the reflectors and give em 
a wipe.


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Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:40 AM
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On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:34:22 -0800 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


> But what happens when the silver tarnishes?

You re-do it.


And how often is that? Like every couple of years, like our silverplate
serving dishes?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Ham Radio - was Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Hendrik Riessen]

Anything that encourages communication between people is OK in my book.
In a way ham radio was the internet chat room of it's day and some are still 
hanging on.


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Ham Radio - was Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Besides talking to the ISS, don't forget that Ham Radio does a very
important public service in disaster relief, furnishing communications when
the phones, cell towers, computers, etc. all stop working.
At least one state officially recognizes the value of Amateur Radio
operators - Alaska.  After the big earthquake of 1964, they enacted a law
that allows licensed Hams to get vehicle license plates for their vehicles
for a dollar (with their call signs!), as long as there is a radio installed
or can be installed in less than 24 hours.
Everytime there's a tornado outbreak, serious hurricane, flood, fire, or
other emergency, the Amateur Radio ARES system is usually activated.  Many
municipalities have pre-arranged networks using Ham Operators for
communications or backup.
So is this system passé?  Not in my estimation!

Werner

Re: [MBZ] Paris Dakar trucks

[Hendrik Riessen]

Yeah they are an awesome machine http://www.kamaz.net/en/vehicle/serial/17
with 730 horses they wanna go fast, like 100mph with a full load

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Subject: [MBZ] Paris Dakar trucks



http://www.metacafe.com/watch/426319/video/R/CFD_1000/ Enjoy!
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Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/my 0.02

[Hendrik Riessen]

Well MB did have problems with valve stem seals for a while but I can't 
really say that my MB engines use much oil. Also cylinder glazing in Diesel 
engines will lead to oil burning. I had a Ford once that used more oil than 
fuel due to crook oil rings but I have never heard of a MB engine with crook 
oil rings.


- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/my 0.02



yes, i was wondering why GM engines were "junk" and lasted hundreds of
thousands of miles with minimal attention but mercedes engines were
"quality" but burn oil maniacally starting at 50k miles.

the obvious point here is that GM engines are not junk as such (well, not
for the most part. t here are some though) and that mercedes is not the be
all and end all of wonder automotion.

ritter and company felt this deserved the life ban, which in turn created
mbz.org which was the foundation for buymbparts.com and whatever survives 
of

these enterperises today, which would include this very list.

stu ritter -- maker of history!

jabba hursty -- 4 cylinder GM engine dating to the late 70s that does not
burn any oil while every mercedes he has does.

Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/my 0.02

[Hendrik Riessen]

Aren't those motors designed as multi fuel motors?

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sludge Issues/my 0.02


The 6.2 and 6.5L diesels (as used in trucks and hmmwv's) were pretty 
decent.. they never died, just lost compression and ran like crap. 

Re: [MBZ] why would anyone buy this?

[Hendrik Riessen]

The only conceivable reason I can see is that someone would want it for 
their concourse car but the prob with that is that the numbers don't match 
up.


- Original Message - 
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:20 AM
Subject: [MBZ] why would anyone buy this?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1988-MERCEDES-BENZ-300SEL-WINDOW-STICKER_W0QQitemZ230091990255QQihZ013QQcategoryZ34227QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: [MBZ] MB myths

[Hendrik Riessen]

You can't compare a motor that is in use as a taxi to one that is used for 
the daily commute.
Taxi motors do not have a lot of cold engine starts, whereas a commuter has 
at least two a day.
How many miles are the euro taxis getting out of their Benz motors? Would 
they buy them to use as taxis if they where junk?
Over here the vast majority of taxis use 6 cylinder motors running on 
LPG(liquid petroleum gas) and they typically get 3 times the miles out of 
them than motors used privatley.
Also a lot of M103/4 motors are used by executives who travel between 
meetings, which is particularly hard on engines.


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Very true and one example is all those yellow taxicabs in NYC. Mostly gas
V-8s getting the crap driven out of them and they go on and on even though 
the
bodies and interiors may be in tatters. Just imagine an M103 or M104 
putting up
with that.   I don't know what automotive perfection is but I do know what 
it

isn't.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] Superglue

[Hendrik Riessen]

If possible rough the shaft up a bit to help hold the glue.

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How does this work?  Do you put the superglue on the affected shaft/gear?



Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula


Yes, take an extremely thin Xacto blade and daub some superglue where the 
cog gear holds the shaft. It doesn't take much. Use liquid superglue, not 
gel, and it helps if the gear and shaft are warmed up with a light or 
other heat source.







Bruce
82 300CD 348kmi 'His'
85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 202kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place
74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen'
73 220D 'Fnu Lnu'

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Re: [MBZ] New Arrival!

[Hendrik Riessen]

Kudshy Kudshy Coo Coo, what a little cutie.
Although I would be thinking about hiding spots for the car keys.

- Original Message - 
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Subject: [MBZ] New Arrival!



I can't help but gloat. I'm a daddy!

Here he is! Gabriel Logan Campbell, born Feb. 10 at 11:31 am. 7 lbs 8
oz, 21 inches of perfection.

http://www.pbase.com/timothypilgrim/spuds_debut

Tim and Isabelle

Re: [MBZ] MB & Chrysler

[Hendrik Riessen]

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB & Chrysler



Hendrik Reissen'd (ummnh that's Riessen, thank you)

<300C

would have to be the ugliest thing on the planet (it's like a shoebox on
wheels) and I can't see how Chrysler has added anything to DB, except for
cheapening the brand.>>


You know, I really don't know why you are so excited about anything they
do, considering that you are not a Mercedes customer. Perhaps you have 
stock in

the company? Unless you have purchased a new car from an MB dealer or buy
your parts from one, you are somebody else's customer and none of your 
money is

flowing into their coffers.



Sorry Rodger, I won't ever say anything again about anything remotley to do 
with DC, DB or anything else unless I create a strong financial connection. 
I did buy a new HD motorcyle once, perhaps I'll save my comments when 
something about them comes up. Hang on I bought a Grundig TV new, so I can 
talk about them and how crappy they are nowadays.
Although I do buy parts from DC now and again (well oil filters mostly) but 
I guess that doesn't qualify me to speak my mind about the future direction 
of the company.
However if you decide that only people who have bought a new car from DC or 
hold shares in the company are allowed to say anything in relation to what 
DC is doing, then we may as well get Kaleb to ban all those who do not have 
shares or have bought a new MB. How many will that leave on the list?



As to the 300C, have you ever seen one? I wonder.

Around here, they have sold well and I think it's because off their 
unusual
design. In a dark color, particularly with larger aftermarket wheels, they 
are

quite an eye-catcher. I have also taken note that the shut lines and paint
quality are very good. Maybe not Audi-like, but excellent for a North 
American

built car. And the price is surprisingly lower than you might expect.

So, you hate them. So what? They are not my taste either but I'm willing 
to
admit that Chrysler has come up with a winner. And considering the dreck 
they

used to produce, this is a good sign for a struggling American company.

Yes I have seen one or two but even in the flesh they leave me cold, an 
austentacious vehicle for those who can't afford a real snob car. What 
really gets me about them(and a lot of other cars) is the small size of the 
side windows, must be like sitting in a coffin. Is it possible to check your 
blind spot? What about parking the thing? I hope they have put some sort of 
entertaiment pack in there for the kids because they can't look out of the 
windows to pass the time, unless they are into watching clouds.
Now this probably something you have never done but I like to roll down the 
window and put my elbow on the window sill every now and again when I am 
cruising along, is that possible in a 300C?
No, to me this is a car that was designed for yuppies to impress their 
yuppie friends.



The other DC product that is selling well is the Sprinter. Not only Fedex,
DHL and UPS sales, but also lots of ordinary truck buyers. They are 
everywhere.


Yeah we got a lot of them as well, along with the Vito and MB100(which is a 
Korean van with a MB star on it)



RLE


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Re: [MBZ] DaimlerChrysler or Daimler, Chrysler?

[Hendrik Riessen]

The 123 was designed in the 70's and is nowhere as boxxy as a 300C.
Might pay to compare a 123 to a swedish brick of the same era.
Also in a 123 I can check my blind spot, put my elbow on the window sill and 
the kids can watch the world go by. It is a practical family truck.


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Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] DaimlerChrysler or Daimler, Chrysler?



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Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:58 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] DaimlerChrysler or Daimler, Chrysler?


I mean that 300C would have to be the ugliest thing on this planet

(it's like a shoebox on wheels)



Now come on! How would you describe the nice old Mercedes that we all seem 
to prefer? I don't know about your car,
but my 76 300D is surely about as close to shoebox on wheels as we are 
going to get isn't it? Pretty boxy.


Randy


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[MBZ] Toyhota quality

[Hendrik Riessen]

I think it is Toyotas stringent quality control that has helped it be the 
number 1, not as many Monday morning and Friday afternoon cars.
Therein lies the problem of the western auto makers, unions demand more 
money for their workers but don't care about the quality of the product they 
are building. Guess they will pay the price.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] DaimlerChrysler or Daimler, Chrysler?



Toyota has build a reputation for building affordable and reliable
transportation, boring as the rest of the Asian cars but the perception of
quality is there.

A friend of mine drove a 1990 Camry practically since it was new, and why 
do

you think he got rid of it?  Well, he simply got tired of it!  There was
nothing wrong with the car, but he got the chance to buy a 2000 Deville 
from

a family member who had passed away.  Wifey didn't want him to get rid of
the Camry since there wasn't anything wrong with it.  It was a hard sell,
but he's got the caddy now.  The Deville is probably a bit more powerful,
but it probably won't last as long.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula


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Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal

[Hendrik Riessen]

Brake squeal can also be caused by glazed pads due to incorrect driving. 
This is a particular problem with lady drivers who always gently apply 
brakes, like my Mum. If a couple of hard braking stops don't cure the squeal 
then it may need some brake grease.


- Original Message - 
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To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Squeal and other topics



Brake squeal is caused by the brake pads vibrating at high frequency.
The magic goo goes between the back of the pads & caliper & helps dampen
the vibration. Your local discount parts store usually has small packs
for sale on the counter for less than $1.00 each. Just ask for the brake
anti-squeal compound & they will know exactly what you want.

Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com

Re: [MBZ] New Euro terror alerts

[Hendrik Riessen]

Aaah yes and the Americans have gone from "getting the CIA to meddle in 
other countries politics" to " shoot first and ask questions later", the US 
of A also has two more levels left. They are "carpet bombing from a great 
height" and "nuke the f...s back to the stoneage".


Obviously Australia is not one to miss out on the fun and has increased it's 
security level from "she'll be right" to "hide your beers" with the two 
levels remaing being "don't think we'll be inviting them over for a barby" 
and "those bloody drongos are looking for a fight, if they don't pull their 
heads in by the time I've drained this stubby.watch out"


- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:13 PM
Subject: [MBZ] New Euro teror alerts


Subject: New European terror alerts

The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist threats
and have raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved."

Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even
"A Bit Cross." Londoners have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940
when tea supplies all but ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from
"Tiresome" to a "Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a 
"Bloody

Nuisance" warning level was during the great fire of 1666.

Also, the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its
terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in 
France are

"Surrender" and "Collaborate." France's raised terror alert level was
precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed the country's "white flag" 
factory,

effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.

It's not only the English and French that are on a heightened level of 
alert.
Italy has also increased the alert level from "Shout Loudly and Excitedly" 
to

"Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat
Operations" and "Change Sides."

The Germans also increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to
"Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher 
levels:

"Invade a Neighbor" and "Lose."

Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual, and the only 
threat

they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.

The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy.
These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so that the new Spanish 
Navy

can get a really good look at the old Spanish Navy."



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Re: [MBZ] New Euro terror alerts

[Hendrik Riessen]

It has to be remembered that other empires before have used the manifest 
destiny mantra to justify their actions. All have come unstuck because their 
'manifest destiny' became the overriding factor in policy decision.
Or to put it another way, their ego ruled the brain. Once you start saying 
things like "it is our destiny to do this or that", you are going down a 
slippery slope.
That is the fear of a lot of people around the world, that the USA is slowly 
turning into a Fascist state where manifest destiny decides policies. There 
is a fine line between pride in country/self and letting that pride turn 
into a monster that perceives others(and their way of life) as being 
inferior.
However I do see the American frustration with the position of some of it's 
NATO allies, particularly as not too long ago the US helped to liberate them 
from the clutches of tyranny and also got them back on their feet.
Then again perhaps if more effort had been put into making the UN a 
better/stronger organisation..


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Euro terror alerts



At the risk of continuing a non-MBZ thread ...

Are you implying that we Yanks have enough sense to actually ask 
questions?

That suggests sufficient knowledge of world affairs to know what questions
to ask. Why ask questions when those who are The Decider know that we are
right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_Destiny

Ok, Kaleb, I promise -- not another word from me on this. Zippin' it.

Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts

[Hendrik Riessen]

If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious. Perhaps they could make a sitcom 
out of the workings of the CIA and the other government agencies that love 
to burn up taxpayer money whilst having very little to show for it.
I have read rumours that the CIA doesn't want to find Osama because he has 
too much dirt on them, this probably stems from keeping "enemy combatants" 
in legal limbo down there in Cuba.

It all stinks but they tell us that it smells beautiful.

- Original Message - 
From: "M.Afzaal.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts



Two  books  which give a  clear insight to   the current   quagmire the
world finds itself in, and its not economic
1 The International Bestseller/Pulitzer Prize Winner"Ghost
Wars" by Steve Coll
2  "Devil's Game"   by Robert Dreyfuss .

mak




That is the fear of a lot of people around the world, that the USA is

slowly
turning into a Fascist state where manifest destiny decides policies




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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts

[Hendrik Riessen]

Ahh yes the hardline approach, only problem with that is that we will lose 
our soul in the process.
A hollow victory indeed, with ghettos, concentration camps, giant prisons 
and lots and lots of dead civilians.


- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts



What is your preferred alternative method?My short-term practical
alternative is viewed by many as rather extreme and clearly unpopular,
but likely effective.

--R

Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts

[Hendrik Riessen]

Good plan and when a hardline, fundamentalist Islamic dictatorship takes 
over Iraq we'll all give ourselves a pat on the back for a job well done.
No, the power vaccum has been created and now has to be filled with 
something that is reasonably decent, more importantly it has to be able to 
resist future attempts at destabilisation. The problem I see is that even if 
a elected goevernment is established in Iraq and a well function police and 
military force is in place, what is to stop some tribal warlord getting 
together with some military and police leaders and overthrow the government 
the day after the coalition forces leave Iraq?
The only way I see of ever solving the mess is to change the culture from 
tribalism to political dialouge. This will take decades and the sooner we 
face up to it the sooner we can start working towards that goal. We can't 
change human nature and it's desire for power but we can build a system 
strong enough to counter this.
Far as Vietnam goes, no we didn't mean well, it was a ideological 
battelground which was lost because we didn't mean well. We did not give a 
rats bum about the Vietnamese people, all that was worried about was 
stopping the nasty communists. If Ho Chi Mhin was a right wing type 
dictator, then there is a srong possibility that the west would never have 
lifted a finger to help the South Vietnamese stop Ho Chi Mhin and more 
likely would have been, that the west would have supported Ho Chi Minh.


- Original Message - 
From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:51 AM
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Rich - there is little alternative but to see the mess through.

In hindsight, assuming that the decision to go in and get rid of Saddam
Hussein was taken, the next step should have been a systematic pull back 
of

Western forces from the urban areas, as quickly as possible.  We did not
then, and still won't have, enough troops on the ground to occupy and
attempt to pacify the country.  We have to really push the existing
government to establish some control of their own people.  That is what
we're doing right now, and let's hope that it works.

IMO, we still need to carefully get our troops out of harm's way, and let
the local people settle their own issues as they are used to doing. 
Staying
there until "democracy" takes hold has the probability of our youth 
getting

shot at for many years, if not forever.

The situation in Iraq is more and more getting to look like the early 70's
in Vietnam, where we meant well but 1) didn't have a strong government to
support; 2) were in the middle of a civil war; and 3) lost the public
support of the taxpayers at home.  Oh, and both of those countries were
somewhat arbitrarily set up a long time ago by colonial powers - the 
French
in Indochina, and the Brits and French in the middle East.  And the good 
old

USA jumped in to help, decades later.

Enough politics - let's get back to something we can do - work with our
favorite cars!

Werner

Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts

[Hendrik Riessen]

That's a fairly broad statement which can be applied to just about every 
society/tribe/individual on this earth. Isn't the occupation of Iraq 
retribution for 9/11? Haven't the Christian and Islam religions been feuding 
for centuries? What would you do if your neighbour attacked you?
Sure the whole Iraq thing has been a disaster from the start, partly due to 
lack of understanding on behalf of the strategists and partly due to the 
lack of help from other powerful nations(the question here being what, if 
anything, was their plan to move Iraq forward? More sanctions, UN 
resolutions that state Saddam is a very naughty boy. It's all very nice of 
them to now snigger at the mess but they where quite happy to let the Iraqy 
people rot under UN imposed sanctions that only hurt the little people).
However the good news is that it is only a minority of fundamentalist that 
want to create a Islamic state, with the majority of Iraqies just wanting to 
live their lives in relative peace(and the problem being they may well 
choose an Islamic state just to get that relative peace).
This leads me to another one of the major stuff ups, why wheren't the people 
of Iraq asked to vote on what sort of future they want. There was an 
arrogant assumption made that the Iraq people want a US/western style 
democracy, sure they may well do but without a clear mandate from the Iraq 
people it is seen as western arrogance to impose what we think they should 
have in the way of a government.


- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:56 AM
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As for the middle East - anyone who has spent any time in the region (I 
was

there for almost 3 years) should have learned that their eternal feuds
always require retribution, and that westerners (crusading infidels in 
their

eyes) will always be the common enemy.  We are not the first outsiders to
find that out the hard way, and probably won't be the last.  Its a shame
that the Wolfowitz/Cheney/Rumsfeld group didn't seem to know at least that
much about the history of the region - or worse yet, think that they could
overcome it with minimal force.  And even more tragic is that we've lost 
so
many fine young men and women there, and tens of thousands maimed for 
life.

Not to mention the untold thousands killed as "collateral damage".

Werner

Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts

[Hendrik Riessen]

There was a difference between what the average soldier on the ground was 
trying to do and what the politicians back home where trying to achieve. The 
pollies where fighting a guerilla war with WW2 battle tactics and the 
average grunt was stuck in the middle knowing full well that it wasn't 
working. That and the half arsed battle for hearts and minds, with having 
decent people working hard to win the locals over, only to have the generals 
decide to withdraw from that position due to politics.


Somehow the problem of warlords has to be overcome, there are advantages 
these days insofar that the average person is more educated. This may well 
help to isolate warlords and bring them into the political arena, I don't 
think trying to destroy them will work but making them face up to their 
responibitlies may.


Far as I remember the original mission was to find and destroy WMD's, that 
was a no goer so the mission changed to "regime change"(I like the irony of 
that statement) and I guess the mission now is to try and find a way out 
without losing too much face.


- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts


Hendrik - I don't know if you were there in RVN, but I spent my year 
there,

and from my perspective, we were trying to provide a safe, democratic (and
admittedly anti-communist) environment so that teachers, doctors, and
village leaders could do their jobs without being killed just because they
had some education.

As for Iraq, don't look now, but the whole area from Turkey South to the 
Red

Sea is full of tribal warlords, and the vast majority don't want any
meddling from us or anyone else.  Good luck in changing the culture - its
been tried for over a thousand years (maybe longer?) with no lasting
success.  If the people living there want an Islamic (fundamentalist or
liberal), then who are we to say that's wrong?  And if tribal warlords (or
by any other name) are the problem, where do we start next?  Venezuela?
North Korea?  Zimbabwe?  Better we think this one through first, before we
jump into more frying pans

And what really was our "mission" in Iraq??  Seems that our government is
still trying to find words to describe that.  Perhaps we should get back 
to
the original plan and find, capture, and bring to justice the group that 
was

responsible for 9/11 - and they are NOT in Iraq!

Werner

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts



Good plan and when a hardline, fundamentalist Islamic dictatorship takes
over Iraq we'll all give ourselves a pat on the back for a job well done.
No, the power vaccum has been created and now has to be filled with
something that is reasonably decent, more importantly it has to be able 
to

resist future attempts at destabilisation. The problem I see is that even
if
a elected goevernment is established in Iraq and a well function police
and
military force is in place, what is to stop some tribal warlord getting
together with some military and police leaders and overthrow the
government
the day after the coalition forces leave Iraq?
The only way I see of ever solving the mess is to change the culture from
tribalism to political dialouge. This will take decades and the sooner we
face up to it the sooner we can start working towards that goal. We can't
change human nature and it's desire for power but we can build a system
strong enough to counter this.
Far as Vietnam goes, no we didn't mean well, it was a ideological
battelground which was lost because we didn't mean well. We did not give 
a

rats bum about the Vietnamese people, all that was worried about was
stopping the nasty communists. If Ho Chi Mhin was a right wing type
dictator, then there is a srong possibility that the west would never 
have

lifted a finger to help the South Vietnamese stop Ho Chi Mhin and more
likely would have been, that the west would have supported Ho Chi Minh.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts

[Hendrik Riessen]

In the lead up to the invasion claims where being made that Saddam was 
producing WMD's and was working with Al Quaida to use those WMD's as a 
terrorist weapon. Therein lies an irony that if those claims where true Bush 
and Co would have been hailed as heroes and the situation in Iraq may well 
be different now.
One of the biggest mistakes in relation to Iraq was not to apprehend Saddam 
during the first Gulf War, whose mistake that was is hard to tell but if the 
UN had some balls and said back then that Saddam is a war criminal and will 
be brought to justice, once again things may well be very different in Iraq 
today. I did see an interview with General Schwartzkopf, where he said that 
the hope was that after the Gulf War the Iraqy people would rise up and 
overthrow the Bath party. There once again we come back to manifest destiny, 
the belief was that the Iraqy people would follow their manifest destiny and 
throw off the shackles of dictatorship. However stormin Norman didn't bother 
to learn the lessons of history and understand that the only way to destroy 
a entrenched dictatorship is with overwhelming force which the Iraqy people 
did not posses. However what else could he say without making some big 
enemies?
I don't think that the UN is democratic at all, have you ever voted to 
appoint someone to the UN? Far as I can see it is a gravy train for 
buerocrats. They do a hell of a lot of talking the talk but the way it is 
structured it has no hope of ever achieving anything but passing lame 
resolutions. All it takes is for one member of the security council to not 
agree and the whole thing comes to a standstill. There ain't no democracy in 
that. Democracy to me means that if over 50% of the people want something 
then that is what will happen.
The problem that I can see is all these countries want to be team leaders 
and not be team players.
Would the US be happy to have the UN meddle in their affairs? Would China be 
happy if the UN demanded that free and fair elections be held? Would France 
be happy if it was ordered to send troops into Iraq? Would Germany be happy 
to have to double it's monetary contribution towards the UN? Would Australia 
be happy if the UN changed it's mind and gave East Timor back to the 
Indonesians?


- Original Message - 
From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts


Hendrik - I cannot begin to understand how anyone could relate Iraq to 
9/11.

A case could be made for Saudi Arabia, and perhaps a few other countries,
but at the time (and probably yet today), the perpetrators were under the
direction of a group in Afghanistan, if we are to believe what's in the 
news

reports of the day.
And I'm not aware that Iraq attacked us - they did attack Kuwait, and we 
had

the whole Arab world on our side to kick them back into their own land.
IMO, we will probably find that most of the reasons for knocking off 
Saddam

Hussein were based on poor decisions, even though the cause was righteous.
I find it a bit ironic to blame the UN for being ineffective, when we in 
the

USA often don't support it when it doesn't suit us.  Yes, they are a
bumbling, bureaucratic bunch, but it is something we helped establish, and
it is about as democratic as can be.  Not perfect by any means, but still
democratic.

Werner

Re: [MBZ] OT: New Euro terror alerts

[Hendrik Riessen]

That's right Harry, although I prefer the scroll wheel on my mouse to go 
past stuff I have no desire to look at at. Once I have looked at all the 
messages and replied to some with my usual BS, I delete the days worth of 
posts in one go. If I delete something accidentally, I can go into the 
deleted items folder and retrive it. If there is a post I want to keep for 
future reference I drag it to a archive folder.
Although I must admit I use my index finger to delete stuff, using a thumb 
is a bit akward for me.
Oooh you'll know when our 20/20 hind sight has solved all of the worlds 
little dilemas, we'll be in Stockholm getting a Nobel peace prize.
Look I know most people don't give a shit, as long as they get paid on time 
and the beer is cold but I do spend time thinking about how things are gonna 
pan out. Call it a quirk or abnormality but we are just taking care of this 
world for the next generation and I don't like the thought of giving our 
kids a stuffed up world. Why is it stuffed up? Because we didn't give a 
shit. Why didn't you give a shit daddy? Because I got paid on time and the 
beer was cold.
However you are right, we are not going to solve the problems of the world 
by writing stuff that looks like it came from the the loony left, the only 
way thing we can do is to elect smart politicians who have some sort of 
understanding of how the world works. Through this understanding there may 
come solutions to work towards solving the issues that face all of us.


- Original Message - 
From: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:05 PM
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I have heard the thumb is a great tool on the human body and I have
discovered how great the delete key works for this thread.  Please let me
know when all of this 20/20 hind sight solves these problems in a perfect
way.

Harry

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

[Hendrik Riessen]

Well that depends on what you define as a production car, every car is 
produced. Wether one or 10 million are made, however personally I think 
production car means a car made in large volume on a assembly line vs a car 
which is 'handbuilt' and therefore an exotic car.
Anyway all I know you do not want to crash into one of these fancy cars, 
imagine ringing up your insurance company and telling them you smashed up a 
Bugatti Veyron. Hell it's funny when one of these rich people smash up their 
fancy toys. There was one a couple of years ago where a Ferrari got totalled 
a couple of days after the owner took delivery because he got his feet stuck 
down by the pedals somehow(well I spose that is a better story than admiting 
that it was just a stupid driver error).


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Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:47 PM
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Fastest production car ever as well.

Mike

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

[Hendrik Riessen]

S, don't tell the environmentalists.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:19 AM
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On 05/03/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


If it has 6 radiators how many fuel tanks does it have?  12??

Andrew,


It actually has TEN radiators and a 100 litre fuel tank. At top speed it
gets 125l/100 km or just 2.1 mpg fuel economy. It'll empty the tank in
12.5minutes!

Jeff Zedic
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1:58 PM

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain and related parts on 1987 300D turbo....

[Hendrik Riessen]

I just did the chain and top guide rail my 190E, which is a single row 
chain. Total cost of parts was AU$85 and that is for a quality Iwis chain. 
Took an afternoon to do but does require some experience. It is recommended 
to use a temporary link to ensure the timing is correct before installing 
the permenant link, although on the M102 it is possible to correct the 
timing by removing the camshaft sproket.

Anyway the top of my radiator just busted so I got that to fix up.

- Original Message - 
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To: "mercedes" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:38 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Timing chain and related parts on 1987 300D turbo



Hello,
I posted this question some time ago, but the settings on my computer were 
such that I could get the heading of the answers/questions, but not the 
contents of the message.. it's fixed now, so I will try again.


Is the changing of the timing chain for the the 1987 300D the same as the 
earlier model (1980 thru 1985) in that all is needed is to pull the new 
chain thru via the old chain, and maybe, if needed, change the tensioner? 
At how many miles is recommended (at 200,000?)


I had my car in the shop (local dealer) to have the steering gearbox 
replaced, and I asked about changing the timing gear. I have about 275,000 
miles and I told them I needed an estimate to change the chain.
The manager looked at me funny, and said, We don't change the chain unless 
it needs it, your car does not display the signs of needing the chain 
replaced.
I replied that I rather have it changed than to wait and have it break and 
ruin the engine.
He later gave me an estimate, which included changing the gears, and all 
related parts. Is this necessary with the 87 300D? All together, with 
labor, it was like $1,600.00 to change the timing chain... which I thought 
was very excessive.

What is recommended with the 1987 300D engine?

Thanks,

Rick
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3:42 PM

Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan

[Hendrik Riessen]

You're not worthy to have such a fine machine.
Over here we got em coming out of our ears.

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why no minivan



Ok, so my original statement was correct.  The rest of the world, but not
Norte Amerika.

At 07:35 PM 3/7/2007, you wrote:


On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:19 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:

> They have Vitos in Canadia?  I didn't think they did, at least not
> through
> MBNA...
>
> Mac? Jeff?

Nope none in Canada, just
Smarts, "B" class,
likely broader range of diesels...

Oh and occasionally hulking horsepower related flavors that are
crippled for or not offered in the USA market.
Those occasionally turn up owned by some baseball/football star in
the usa as illegally imported tho.

Well or for example my 500SEL which is Euro tuned edition, as
compared to the slightly anaemic  USA flavour.

John
1983 300TDt  386k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990's 300TDt  186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 186k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)



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Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???????????????

[Hendrik Riessen]

News flash..'Hick from the stick finds way to increase efficiency of 
Diesel engine. More than a hundred years after the invention of the Diesel 
engine a man from Theneckisred, South Alabama by the name of Cletus 
Imarriedmycousin has revealed his amazing secret for increasing the mileage 
he gets from his hunting truck. Cletus is quoted as saying "I get that there 
stuff for me lawncutter and put a bottle of it in the ole truck whens I fill 
er up at Uncle Jebs gas place. Heck it makes the old girl giddyup and go 
like a half skinned critter." In an effort to verify Mr Imarriemycousin's 
claim we contacted Daimler Chryslers technical department. Dr Ichweissalles 
from Daimler Chryslers advanced engine research department issued the 
following statement "This is truly amazing, we have been trying to make the 
compression ignition engine more efficient by using high pressure to inject 
the fuel but have completely missed this. This would have to be biggest 
technical advance since the invention of the Otto cycle engine. We are 
currently busy designing a system so our vehicles will automatically inject 
two stroke oil at the exact correct amount."
The President of the United States has issued this statement: "I would like 
to congratulate my good friend and cousin twice removed Cletus 
Imarriedmycousin for figuring this out. This once again shows that we are 
the cleverest people in the Earth. I personally will make sure that Cletus 
gets a medal for personnaly saving the enviroment by making our beloved pick 
up cars much more efficient. This is a clear example that you don't need no 
fancy education to make good in the United States of America. God bless us 
and our friends and God bless Cletus saviour of the ozones."


BTW Steve I have a nice bridge for sale in San Francisco if you are 
interested.


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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:24 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???



Any response to this idea?; I was told buy a 3/4 ton diesel pickup driver
that he adds i quart 2 cycle oil to each tank of diesel; and that he gets
about 2 more miles per gal.; (maybe the extra liquid adds to the
mileage increase???) anyone have a response GOOD or BAD idea???  THANKS,
Steve

3 M.B diesel cars

1 Schnauzer  DOG

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9:24 AM

Re: [MBZ] Whatever

[Hendrik Riessen]

No No No, this has been the most fascinating thread in years. I can't wait 
to learn more about the differences between brinelling and dimpling. 
Although it is hard to focus because I am also trying to keep an eye on that 
bit of paint that is drying.


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Lets's get back to "which oil" or perhaps 500 links to ebay or craigslist
rustbuckets.

RLE





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Re: [MBZ] Exciting stuff

[Hendrik Riessen]

I suppose you could take that book on bicycles along and when the grass gets 
too exciting, read a chapter of the book to calm down.


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>


I'm taking a chair out back to watch the grass grow. If I can stand the
excitement.

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Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???????????????

[Hendrik Riessen]

I had to think that one through but got there in the end:-)

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:28 PM
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I have heard that adding a gallon of diesel fuel to 10 gallons of fuel 
will

get you more mileage.  I think it like a 10% increase or something.

Chris K
Cayce, SC

Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel???????????????

[Hendrik Riessen]

Yes, appareently anglo saxons are the only race on Earth that can be made 
fun of without getting into trouble.
I believe it has something to do with the ability to laugh at yourself and 
also the ability to recognise humours sarcasm.
Imagine if they made TV shows like Fawlty towers, Love thy neighbour or Are 
you being served(as a side note, the actor that played the gay sales 
assistant passed away yesterday) in todays PC world.


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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:56 PM
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Just a little side note:

I've found it interesting that the rural southerner is the only ethic 
group

that it is socially acceptable to slur. You see it in TV ads all the time.

I always try to imagine the blitzkrieg of outrage that would result if a
heavily-accented inner-city or southern black was made fun of even if it 
was

all in good fun.

I know you were just funnin', I think, and I'm not hating on you, Hendrik,
just posing a question.

Brian

Re: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel

[Hendrik Riessen]

Well, looking at this with a more scientific eye, 2 stroke oil is an oil and 
Diesel fuel is an oil. So you are adding oil to oil to get more efficency.
On a more believable plane, you can get a kit installed that will add 
LPG(liquid petroleum gas) to the air intake in order to burn more of the 
Diesel. I guess the theory is that the LPG will help get a quicker and more 
complete burn of the fuel, 
http://www.dieselgasaustralia.com.au/default.aspx?ID=Technical
Perhaps doing this to a 240D will help get the 1/4 mile times down to 2 days 
insted of the usuall 3:-)


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Subject: [MBZ] Adding 2 cycle oil to diesel



THANKS ZEB!!!;  DDUUHHH!!!; if the 2 cycle oil costs $1.50 a quart;
($6.00 a gal. 4 quarts) to get 2 more miles to a gallon; STUPID!!!;
next time i see this guy; I'll tell him that, that 2 more miles per
gallon; HA! HA! ; is costing MORE THAN A GALLON OF DIESEL!
Steve

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Re: [MBZ] Mystery Water leak W123 300D (Peter Merle)

[Hendrik Riessen]

Talking about coolant leaks, I was fiddling under the bonnet of my 190E the 
other day because the breather hose came off and was making a wee bit of a 
mess.
While I was fixing that I noticed a bit of coolant had dribbled out of the 
top radiator hose, when I tried to pull the top hose off the neck snapped 
off. Anyway all fixed now with a Nissen radiator which cost about 60% of the 
price of the Behr unit. However the Nissen does not have the handy drain 
plug the Behr has but you can't have everything.
I looked at getting the old radiator fixed but it had a couple of pin holes 
in the core so would have cost the same to fix as a new Nissen.

Bloody Behr only lasting 22 years, what a piece of junk.

- Original Message - 
From: "B Dike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mystery Water leak W123 300D (Peter Merle)



Peter,

The miniscule leak you describe is likely due to an old weeping coolant 
hose.  First check the bypass hose, then the lower hose.  I see the 
problem periodically in my 'fleet', and it's usually the same fix.


BTW, I read somewhere that coolant molecules actually are smaller than H2O 
and find their way through more easily through old hose.  I need a chemist 
to explain how that can possibly be...doesn't a molecule of ethylene 
glycol have more atoms than water?


Good Luck,



Bruce

Re: [MBZ] Mystery Water leak W123 300D (Peter Merle)

[Hendrik Riessen]

Don't think the cheaper Nissen ones can be but the Behr units are repairable 
once. It depends on the skill of the repairer and the place I went to for 
advice does a lot of Behr radiators, they also do a lot of work for the 
local stealerships.
And good on ya for owning up to having owned a Volvo, it's all part of the 
healing process:-)


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Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mystery Water leak W123 300D (Peter Merle)



Those plastic tank rads cannot be repaired, anyway -- the aluminum
flange fails when you attempt to re-crimp it.  Believe me, I tried with
the Volvo.

Don't use green coolant, it seems to make that plastic go brittle
faster, amongst other nasty things.

At least it broke in the drive cold (ditto for the Volvo) -- else it
takes the head with it, as my sister did in her Volvo turbo wagon.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 722.4 / 1991 300D 2.5 Transmission Question

[Hendrik Riessen]

Do you mean 1-2 or 2-3 shift? Do the engine revs flare up during the shift? 
Is there any difference between a cold box and operating temp box? May pay 
to pull the pan to see if there is debris in there, while it is off a new 
filter and fluid can't hurt.

Is there any warranty left on the box?

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Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:03 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 722.4 / 1991 300D 2.5 Transmission Question



Hello Listers- I have a question, I have a 722.4 transmission in my '91
300D, 81k miles.  I had a MB rebuilt put in 2 years ago, 8k miles ago.
SNIPPED 

Re: [MBZ] 911 GT-3RS

[Hendrik Riessen]

Yeah and then you need somewhere to unleash it's potential. Me, I'd need a 
few weeks of training just to work up the courage to get it out of first.
The down side I can see that it does not have a trailer hitch, be a pain to 
fit one around those exhaust pipes.


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From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 911 GT-3RS



I think I need one. :-)

Zeb

Re: [MBZ] 911 GT-3RS

[Hendrik Riessen]

Is nothing sacred?
Just another example of buerocrazy applying the band aids, what's 
next...banning farting because of emission concerns?


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From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 911 GT-3RS


But where to enjoy it?  The Germans are coming under pressure from the EU 
to
set speed limits on the Autobahn to combat greenhouse gas and HC 
emissions.

Re: [MBZ] German speed limits

[Hendrik Riessen]

Aaah come on now, people have to have dreams and going really fast on an 
autobahn is amongst those dreams for some.

Personally I prefer to catch the train and sit back with a few beers.

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] German speed limits



I personally couldn't care less if there were a speed limit on the
Autobahn.  Besides, don't underestimate the power of the EU bureaucracy.
Once they get going the momentum is unstoppable.

Re: [MBZ] 911GT-3RS

[Hendrik Riessen]

I think it's their ego telling them they need a fancy car so others may see 
how good they are.
They certainly are not buying them because of superior reliability or 
practicality.
You know when people have made it, the missus gets a boob job and hubby gets 
the sports car(and a better toupee that doesn't fly off when the top is 
down).


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 911GT-3RS



"Why do people buy these cars, anyway?" Davide's answer was "Because they
can" and that says it all.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] 87 Timing chain & GEARS replacement

[Hendrik Riessen]

The M102 does require chain replacement on a more regular basis. Also there 
is no 100% way of measuring stretch, experience may tell you a bit but 
generally if in doubt change it out.


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From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 Timing chain & GEARS replacement



I was told that as a matter of maintenance and precaution, we should
change the timing chain and rails on our 1983 300TD and 1985 300CD
every
100,000 miles.


On a V8, maybe.  Not on the inline engines.  The amount of chain
flexure between the two designs is _vastly_ different.  Measure
the stretch, and replace as necessary.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] German speed limits

[Hendrik Riessen]

Oh so you go 300kmh along the interstate? Very impressive.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] German speed limits


One of the old granny tales. We drive faster on the Interstates here
than the Krauts do on the Autobahn.
And every little village along the roadside has "Lärm Kontroll Gebiet"
(noice control area). 

Re: [MBZ] W124 door locks ???

[Hendrik Riessen]

My money is on an vac line in the door, had this on my 201, as the door 
opens and shuts it pulls on the vac line and eventually pulls it out. I 
fixed it by putting an extension into the vac line. Could also be a leaking 
actuator.

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Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 door locks ???


>> When you open the doors, whether from the drivers door, passenger
>> door, or trunk, you can hear the little motor right by the gas flap
>> trying
>> to work, for about, oh, 10-15 seconds, then it stops.
>
> You have a leak, and not in one of the front doors or the
> trunk lock.  Those three (the keylocks) have feedback switches,
> and the pump will keep going until all three agree on position
> or the pump times out.  The two rear doors and the fuel filler
> flap are open-loop, so if there's a leak that affects them
> more they can do that little half-dance before the pump times
> out.  You need to find the tees in the lines and use the MityVac
> to divide and conquer.  Start at the pump under the seat.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] two S-class questions

[Hendrik Riessen]

1. I think the euros had high compression motors while the US and Oz did 
not.
2. Could be all sorts of dramas but fuel pump relay getting hot could be one 
or in tank fuel strainer blocking could be another.

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Subject: [MBZ] two S-class questions


> 1)  How is the Euro version of the 1983 380SE?  I know the US version was
> darn near crippled.  But I vaguely recall the Euro versions being sweet.
>
> http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/536056105.html
>
> 2)  On an 87 300SE, can anyone think of a simple reason why it would run 
> for
> about 1/2 an hour, then shut off?
>
> http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/537103329.html
>
> No affiliation or association with either of them; I'm actually 
> considering
> getting my first S-class.
>
> -- 
> Sunil Hari
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [MBZ] James May on the 123

[Hendrik Riessen]

Send me the airfare money and you got a deal:)

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] James May on the 123


> How about you pop over and do mine?
>
> --R
>
> Hendrik Riessen wrote:
>> I have had no problem aligning glove box lids on 123's, it is a matter of
>> understanding the design. I found two small screwdrivers and a larger one
>> work wonders for those weird nuts.
>>

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Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires

[Hendrik Riessen]

Genius, pure genius.
I suppose he polishes it with sandpaper as well and details the engine with 
a sandblaster?

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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires


>I thought it was the American way to use a pressure washer on anything you
> can't clean with a leafblower.
>
> That's exactly how our neighbor was.  One day, he even got the bright idea
> to dry off his truck with his leafblower.
>
> Kevin in Portland, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
>

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Re: [MBZ] Coin op

[Hendrik Riessen]

I'm just amazed that Rodger cleans his own cars, I would have thought he 
would go down to the scout clean a car day and haggle them down to 50c for a 
complete detail inside and out.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coin op


> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> <>> everywhere
>>> here, and are used heavily>>
>>>
>> Those aren't pressure washers, of course.
>
> Huh?
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty

[Hendrik Riessen]

I've got a great idea, I'll keep driving my Benz till it runs out of fuel 
and then tell the world how much of an idiot I am because I can't manage to 
organise fuel for my vehicle.
Anyway it is hard to determine how far it would go after the light comes on 
bercause in all mine the yellow triangle likes to flicker for a while before 
deciding to stay on.
I guess that is a design, sort of like a like a gentle tap on the shoulder 
that turns into a kick up the backside.
So where would you start measuring from, the first flicker or when it stays 
on?

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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:26 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty


> What won't they think of next?  This is a "MUST VISIT" web site with
> marginal MB content (looks like only E class drivers run past the low
> fuel light) ---
>
> http://tankonempty.com/
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?

[Hendrik Riessen]

Yes, you are. I love hearing the cardigan wearing, apple loving mob going on 
about how great their OS is. Question is, if it is so great why do they have 
to keep telling themselves and everybody else?
Perhaps this is the only place in the universe where they are tolerated? 
Phehaps there is no specific iluvAppleandhatewindow$anddriveaMercedes forum 
on the planet? Perhaps because of the lack of fun programs for the Apple OS 
they have to spend their time going on about how great it is?
Who knows? Who cares?
Anyway it's back to strip poker for windows for me:0
I'm sitting here nude while the girls have not even lost a bra:(

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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:47 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT?



> Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh?
>
> Walt Lasher
> W140 S350
> Seattle

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Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: pressure washers

[Hendrik Riessen]

Ahh well that's different, those are taxpayer owned vehicles. There to be 
used and abused as much as possible.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires


> In a prior life, we washed Army vehicles with a fire hose, literally.  We
> had driven those things through streams, shallow bogs, and small ponds
> maneuvering while maintaining cover.  Those much more experienced than me
> knew exactly where to direct the hose to blast out caked-on mud in the 
> many
> nooks and crannies.  These things were OD flat, so they didn't shine, but
> they seemed to get pretty clean at the old wash rack.
>
> Scott Ritchey
>

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