Re: Banking with OpenBSD (OT)
Dr Dominique Jacquel wrote: For those who think I made no sens earlier I must explain that somewhere along the wire between me and the list ... all my euro signs vanished and all my pound sterling signs turn into hash signs! I got to be more careful next time. so the story was: UK bank wanted to charge me 18 pounds sterling to make a 300 euros payment French bank only charged 3 euros for the same transaction (that's 10 times less) Dom. Hi Dom, I knew what you meant - and I agree if you need euros don't bank in the UK. http://www.smile.co.uk/ work well with firefox & OpenBSD but they don't do the cheap IBAN inter-european banking that they should :~{ Fred -- http://www.bristolshotokan.org.uk/
Re: Banking with OpenBSD (OT)
For those who think I made no sens earlier I must explain that somewhere along the wire between me and the list ... all my euro signs vanished and all my pound sterling signs turn into hash signs! I got to be more careful next time. so the story was: UK bank wanted to charge me 18 pounds sterling to make a 300 euros payment French bank only charged 3 euros for the same transaction (that's 10 times less) Dom.
Re: Banking with OpenBSD (OT)
Sorry for the off-topic posting but: Although true in theory ... in practice banking with the euro zone from the UK is expensive. You either have to pay a premium to get a multi-currency account or be "raped" for every transaction requiring exchanging pounds <--> euros. An example comes to mind. I recently needed to pay 300 to a company in Holland. My UK bank proposed to charge me altogether #18 (that reaching 10% of the 300) for the privilege. Paying the same amount from my personal French account cost me 3 in charges!! This is called "rip-off Britain", I believe. Unless you *need* an account in #, I would recommend finding a bank within the euro zone. If anybody finds a firefox friendly UK bank which allow cheap transactions with the euro zone, I'd be glad to hear about it :-) Dom. Rogier Krieger wrote: According to the EC regulation 2560/2001, cross-border transactions within the community take place at the same charges applicable for transactions within a member state. Being part of the community, these rules also apply to the UK. As of Jan. 1st, 2006, the applicable limit to those transactions lies at 50.000 euro. In other words: you'll want to stay away from expensive banking countries such as Italy. A UK bank shouldn't pose any problems. In fact, it may even be beneficial to stay in a multi-currency location. Cheers, Rogier -- If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there.
Re: Banking with OpenBSD
On 1/12/06, Craig Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:19:54AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > > > Austin was asking for a euro zone bank. > > Last time I looked, the UK was on a map of Europe. > > Many UK banks are multi-currency. According to the EC regulation 2560/2001, cross-border transactions within the community take place at the same charges applicable for transactions within a member state. Being part of the community, these rules also apply to the UK. As of Jan. 1st, 2006, the applicable limit to those transactions lies at 50.000 euro. In other words: you'll want to stay away from expensive banking countries such as Italy. A UK bank shouldn't pose any problems. In fact, it may even be beneficial to stay in a multi-currency location. Cheers, Rogier -- If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there.
Re: Banking with OpenBSD
On 2006/01/12 13:18, Craig Skinner wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:19:54AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > > > Austin was asking for a euro zone bank. > > Last time I looked, the UK was on a map of Europe. euro zone != europe, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurozone
Re: Banking with OpenBSD
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:19:54AM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > > Austin was asking for a euro zone bank. Last time I looked, the UK was on a map of Europe. Many UK banks are multi-currency.
Re: Banking with OpenBSD
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Craig Skinner wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 07:29:58PM -0700, Austin Hook wrote: > > Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can > > recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a good > > job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox? > > > > North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but our > > current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft. > > > > Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either > > English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and > > fees problem. > > > > I've used the Bank of Scotland for years, not too bad... > > http://www.bankofscotland.co.uk/ > > Apart from the web front end running on something hideous: > > http://www.bankofscotlandhalifax.co.uk/online/default.asp > > Smile is meant to be OK: > > http://www.smile.co.uk > > UK banks don't (yet) charge fees for personal accounts. Austin was asking for a euro zone bank. Check www.abnamro.nl, they have reasoable internet banking services, also available in english. Authentication is challenge-response with a little calculator and a smartcard. Site uses a lot of javascript, but no java, afaik. Don't know how they handle international customers. For my banking stuff I need to go once in a while to the branch office, for example to activate the smart card. -Otto
Re: Banking with OpenBSD
> Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either > > English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and > > fees problem. Nationwide works great for me. Only need a javascript enabled web browser. Java is not required.. Regards Edd
Re: Banking with OpenBSD
On 12/01/06, Austin Hook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can > recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a good > job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox? > > North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but our > current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft. > > Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either > English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and > fees problem. > > Thanks, > > Austin > > I use http://www.danskebank.com/ with OpenBSD/Mozilla/Javaplugin, works just fine. In the past it only worked with MS Explorer, nice to see that a big bank actually looks further than Windows and Explorer. I use one of their small swedish office though, they are very nice to me and ask me how my kids are doing and stuff like that. -- Tony Sarendal - [EMAIL PROTECTED] IP/Unix -= The scorpion replied, "I couldn't help it, it's my nature" =-
Re: Banking with OpenBSD
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 07:29:58PM -0700, Austin Hook wrote: > Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can > recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a good > job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox? > > North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but our > current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft. > > Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either > English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and > fees problem. > I've used the Bank of Scotland for years, not too bad... http://www.bankofscotland.co.uk/ Apart from the web front end running on something hideous: http://www.bankofscotlandhalifax.co.uk/online/default.asp Smile is meant to be OK: http://www.smile.co.uk UK banks don't (yet) charge fees for personal accounts. Craig.
Re: Banking with OpenBSD
Hi, in german is a small good bank www.martinbank.de. They have really no costs per month and per booking. it's the cheapest bank in german that i know. and they have firewalls with a very secure operating system. They will also support client certificates in the next weeks for a much securer internet banking. i use this with firefox without any problems. Thomas Am Mittwoch, den 11.01.2006, 19:29 -0700 schrieb Austin Hook: > Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can > recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a good > job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox? > > North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but our > current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft. > > Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either > English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and > fees problem. > > Thanks, > > Austin > -- Mit freundlichen Gr|_en Best regards Thomas Bvrnert Geschdftsf|hrer Senior IT Consultant & Manager BSI lizenzierter IT-Grundschutz Auditor DO NOT GIVE OUR ADDRESS TO THIRD PARTYS, WE HATE JUNK-MAIL ___ TBits.net GmbH | Telefon: +49 (0)7172 18391-0 Thomas Bvrnert | Telefax: +49 (0)7172 18391-99 Seeweg 6| Service: +49 (0)700 TBITSNET D-73553 Alfdorf | Auto: +49 (0)170 6744415 www.tbits.net | eMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 8602 2EF5 78FD 3C04 B148 2506 5D4F 6A49 E4E2 9D15
Re: Banking with OpenBSD
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:23:43PM +1100, Ioan Nemes wrote: My suggestion to you is to CHANGE banks - urgently, as I did! And tell them that you are NOT willing to use that `security hole` to compromise your own systems! Yes, that is right. If you read his email a bit closer, you'll see he is asking WHICH bank to switch to. He already wants to switch away from his present one. How do you pronounce your name "Ioan" by the way? Ted -- It's not true unless it makes you laugh, but you don't understand it until it makes you weep. Eukleia: Ted Walther Address: 5690 Pioneer Ave, Burnaby, BC V5H2X6 (Canada) Contact: 604-430-4973
Re: Banking with OpenBSD
My suggestion to you is to CHANGE banks - urgently, as I did! And tell them that you are NOT willing to use that `security hole` to compromise your own systems! Ioan >>> Austin Hook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/01/2006 01:29:58 pm >>> Here's a different kind of technical question -- who out there can recommend a Euro zone bank with Internet banking service which does a good job with OpenBSD and Mozilla-Firefox? North American banks generally work fine with Firefox and OpenBSD, but our current account with Bank of Ireland really requires Microsoft. Hopefully, also, it would be a bank that communicates well in either English or French, and is not the worst in the extra little charges and fees problem. Thanks, Austin http://www.netcleanse.com