[OT] DALnet Explains DDOS
OFF TOPIC Some of you probably know that DAlnet has been subject to a large-scale DDOS attack recently. As a result of this, they (DALnet) have posted a series of articles in their ezine to explain to their users what's happening. They have a wonderful Plain English explanation of DOS and DDOS that I thought some of you might like to read. Use this when you need to explain DOS / DDOS to pointy-haired-bosses and civilians! :-) http://zine.dal.net/what-dos.php Sorry for the off-topic post. -- Jonathan M. Hollin Technical Director: Digital-Word Co. (http://digital-word.com/) Co-ordinator: WYPUG (http://wypug.pm.org/)
BUG in $r-uri ?
I know I shouldn't, but I have a URI that goes: a_silly_clients_filename 2 . jpg And when I try: $r-log_error ( $r-uri ); the result is: [Fri Nov 08 09:59:37 2002] [error] a_silly_clients_filename 2.jpg Is this real, or is it me? Thanks, lee Lee Goddard
Help mod_perl 1.27 and DB
Hallo, i wrote a script in mod_perl, but often it loses the db-connection. i'm using mysql as DB. how can i stop this? for example GET http://www.myhost.com/myscript.perl now I get the results as expect GET http://www.myhost.com/myscript.perl now I get an error wenn i reload it, then sometimes i get the document or an error. wenn i reload my apache-webserver, then i allways get the expected page. how can i resolve it? thanks in advance tony simbine
make error compiling mod_perl on RH7.1
Hi all, Trying to compile mod_perl 2.0 for my RH7.1/Apache 2.0.39 server and it falls over with this error: apr_perlio.c: In function `apr_perlio_apr_file_to_glob': apr_perlio.c:573: `IoTYPE_WRONLY' undeclared (first use in this function) apr_perlio.c:573: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once apr_perlio.c:573: for each function it appears in.) apr_perlio.c:577: `IoTYPE_RDONLY' undeclared (first use in this function) make[3]: *** [apr_perlio.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/adrian/mod_perl-1.99_07/xs/APR/PerlIO' make[2]: *** [subdirs] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/adrian/mod_perl-1.99_07/xs/APR' make[1]: *** [subdirs] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/adrian/mod_perl-1.99_07/xs' make: *** [subdirs] Error 2 When I ran 'perl Makefile.PL' etc with the correct location for my apache setup the only thing it complained about was the fact I was using Perl 5.6.0 and it recommended 5.6.1 or above. Before I trawl the dependencies tree trying to install a later version has anyone seen that problem before and do I really need to upgrade my perl installation? Thanks in advance, -- adrian/witchy www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans
Trouble building Apache 1.3.27 with mod_perl 1.27 on Solaris 8 x86
Hi all. I'm having a big trouble on my Solaris 8 x86. I'm trying to compile Apache v1.3.27 with mod_perl 1.2.27. As for now i'm running Apache/1.3.19 (Unix) PHP/4.0.4pl1 mod_perl/1.25. with Perl 5.6.1 and GCC 3.0.3 First off all, i'm using the GNU ld in the compilation process. And as i go into the mod_perl source directory and execute : perl Makefile.PL APACHE_SRC=../apache_1.3.27/src \ DO_HTTPD=1 USE_APACI=1 EVERYTHING=1 \ make Everything goes fine.. No errors. And then i do make test and it results : ../apache_1.3.27/src/httpd -f `pwd`/t/conf/httpd.conf -X -d `pwd`/t httpd listening on port 8529 will write error_log to: t/logs/error_log letting apache warm up...[Fri Nov 8 10:38:55 2002] [error] Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/auto/Socket/Socket.so' for module Socket: ld.so.1: ../apache_1.3.27/src/httpd: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/auto/Socket/Socket.so: symbol main: referenced symbol not found at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/XSLoader.pm line 75. at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/Socket.pm line 451 Compilation failed in require at /export/home/admin/apachebuild/mod_perl-1.27/t//docs/startup.pl line 28. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /export/home/admin/apachebuild/mod_perl-1.27/t//docs/startup.pl line 28. Compilation failed in require at (eval 2) line 1. Syntax error on line 62 of /export/home/admin/apachebuild/mod_perl-1.27/t/conf/httpd.conf: Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/auto/Socket/Socket.so' for module Socket: ld.so.1: ../apache_1.3.27/src/httpd: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/auto/Socket/Socket.so: symbol main: referenced symbol not found at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/XSLoader.pm line 75. at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/Socket.pm line 451 Compilation failed in require at /export/home/admin/apachebuild/mod_perl-1.27/t//docs/startup.pl line 28. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /export/home/admin/apachebuild/mod_perl-1.27/t//docs/startup.pl line 28. Compilation failed in require at (eval 2) line 1. done /usr/bin/perl t/TEST 0 still waiting for server to warm up...not ok server failed to start! (please examine t/logs/error_log) at t/TEST line 95. make: *** [run_tests] Error 146 No httpd process is running for the test process. Then i tried to use the built-in-solaris ld program for the compilation process. Everyting goes fine, until i do the make test : ../apache_1.3.27/src/httpd -f `pwd`/t/conf/httpd.conf -X -d `pwd`/t httpd listening on port 8529 will write error_log to: t/logs/error_log letting apache warm up...done /usr/bin/perl t/TEST 0 still waiting for server to warm up...not ok server failed to start! (please examine t/logs/error_log) at t/TEST line 95. make: *** [run_tests] Error 9 I see the httpd process running, and then i view the mod_perl-1.27/t/logs/error.log file and it contains : [notice] Destruction-DESTROY called for $global_object Prototype mismatch: sub Socket::INADDR_ANY vs () at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/Socket.pm line 329. Prototype mismatch: sub Socket::INADDR_BROADCAST vs () at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/Socket.pm line 330. Prototype mismatch: sub Socket::INADDR_LOOPBACK vs () at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/Socket.pm line 331. Prototype mismatch: sub Socket::INADDR_LOOPBACK vs () at /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i86pc-solaris/Socket.pm line 332. [Fri Nov 8 10:41:50 2002] [warn] [notice] child_init for process 27195, report any problems to [no address given] Does anybody knows what is going on in my compilation process. The last time i builded Apache and mod_perl it was 100% sucessfully compiled(the version running today) Any help would be very apriciated. Best regards to all. Svavar Reykjavik - Iceland
Re: [Win32] nmake error compiling mod_perl.so
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, jheckel wrote: Randy Kobes wrote: where this gets defined in general, but a temporary workaround for the above problem is to change in modperl-2.0/xs/Apache/Access/Apache__Access.h, about line 63, the call av_push(config, newSVpvf(..)); to av_push(config, Perl_newSVpvf(..)); Hi, thank you for your working fix:-) The above does allow the build to complete, but just to emphasize, I don't think it's the right fix - one shouldn't have to do that there. And judging from the tests that fail, it may not even be the right function to use there. I'll look at it some more, but probably Doug or Stas will provide the proper way. But now I see another minor problem: Installing W:\programme\Perl\site\lib\auto\Apache\RequestUtil\RequestUtil.dll Installing W:\programme\Perl\site\lib\auto\Apache\RequestUtil\RequestUtil.exp Installing W:\programme\Perl\site\lib\auto\Apache\RequestUtil\RequestUtil.lib Skipping W:\programme\Perl\site\lib\auto\Apache\RequestRec\RequestRec.bs (unchanged) Cannot forceunlink W:\programme\Perl\site\lib\auto\Apache\RequestRec\RequestRec. dll: No such file or directory at W:\programme\Perl\lib/File/Find.pm line 519 NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'W:\programme\Perl\bin\perl.exe' : return code '0xff' This is not important to me as the mod_perl.so has been compiled before this happens. Does W:\programme\Perl\site\lib\auto\Apache\RequestRec\RequestRec.dll exist? This problem may have arisen from an earlier, incomplete, install, or perhaps trying to install/uninstall mod_perl while the server was running. Maybe try making sure the server is stopped, then doing an 'nmake install' again, perhaps twice. -- best regards, randy
Re: [Win32] nmake error compiling mod_perl.so
Randy Kobes wrote: Does W:\programme\Perl\site\lib\auto\Apache\RequestRec\RequestRec.dll exist? This problem may have arisen from an earlier, incomplete, install, or perhaps trying to install/uninstall mod_perl while the server was running. Maybe try making sure the server is stopped, then doing an 'nmake install' again, perhaps twice. Hi, thank you, you helped me again:-) Juergen
Re: Help mod_perl 1.27 and DB
Tony Simbine wrote: wenn i reload it, then sometimes i get the document or an error. Well, what's the error? Look at your log file. Then look at http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/troubleshooting.html and see if the error is listed there. - Perrin
Re: Help mod_perl 1.27 and DB
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Tony Simbine wrote: GET http://www.myhost.com/myscript.perl now I get the results as expect GET http://www.myhost.com/myscript.perl now I get an error wenn i reload my apache-webserver, then i allways get the expected page. how can i resolve it? You know he's right? It's always best to show what your errors actually are. Read the modperl guide and it will show you that this sort of behaviour comes from globals bouncing between processes. Scrop your variables and you'll be a happy man. Always use strict and .. it's a friday night, I'm going to frag now. Read the guide, it's in there. It's under common pitfalls or something of that nature. byebye.
RE: Can't locate object method new via package Apache::Request (via Mason)...SOLVED
Huh? It tells you EXACTLY what is wrong. No, not really. One reason is that it's not immediately clear (to me) which file can't be loaded. Is it Request.so or libapreq.so.1 that can't be loaded? This ambiguity is further blurred when you know both files are installed. And of course the other reason is that if the solution to the problem was so obvious from the error message, somebody would have posted a solution before I figured it out (with help from you guys). Searching the mailing list archives indicates that method name resolution is not exacly a new problem with mod_perl. Just ask this guy = http://lists.fsck.com/pipermail/rt-users/2002-September.txt. It's the exact same problem with the exact same error message, only in different clothing (he's having trouble with the Apache::Cookie object rather than the Apache::Request object). In the interest of full disclosure, other possible solutions include resetting /etc/ld.so.conf or the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to include more places to look for shared object files (only recently figured this out). But again, unless you're somewhat experienced or have encountered this class of bug before, this won't necessarily be the obvious place to look at first. Anyway enough of my babbling. Now that the answer is out there, hopefully it'll help out the poor souls who run into this issue in the future. Later, DeAngelo -Original Message- From: Ged Haywood [mailto:ged;www2.jubileegroup.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:01 PM To: DeAngelo Lampkin Cc: mod_perl Mailing List Subject: RE: Can't locate object method new via package Apache::Request (via Mason)...SOLVED Hi there, On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, DeAngelo Lampkin wrote: A file called libapreq.so.1 was located in /usr/local/lib (should have been in /usr/lib) [snip] I ended up getting this thing: Syntax error on line 362 of /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf: Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i386-linux-thread-multi/auto/Apache/Request/Request.so'\ for module Apache::Request: libapreq.so.1: cannot open shared object file:\ No such file or directory [snip] This isn't the most helpful error message in the world. Huh? It tells you EXACTLY what is wrong. 73, Ged.
RE: Can't locate object method new via package Apache::Request (via Mason)...SOLVED
Cool. Will do. -Original Message- From: Tim Tompkins [mailto:timt;arttoday.com] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 12:27 PM To: DeAngelo Lampkin; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can't locate object method new via package Apache::Request (via Mason)...SOLVED As a quick follow-up, the PerlModule Apache::Request line is NOT needed in the httpd.conf file for Mason to work. However, it was a very valuable debugging tool. That wasn't really the purpose, though. The purpose was to pre-load the module in the parent apache process for efficiency. My suggestion did come about because it appeared that Apache::Request wasn't being loaded at all. I'm not exacly sure how that happened as Mason's ApacheRequest attempts to require() Apache::Request a couple of places. But just the same, my suggestion to pre-load Apache::Request, as well as any other lib you normally use, stands. See: http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/performance.html#Preloading_Perl_Modul es_at_Server_Startup Regards, Tim Tompkins -- Programmer http://www.clipart.com/ http://www.rebelartist.com/ --
Re: Can't locate object method new via package Apache::Request(via Mason)...SOLVED
DeAngelo Lampkin wrote: And of course the other reason is that if the solution to the problem was so obvious from the error message, somebody would have posted a solution before I figured it out (with help from you guys). There is documentation related to this problem in the troubleshooting section, and if you'd like to generalize it a little so it will be easier for others to find when looking at this type of message, your help would be welcome. The current documentation is here: http://perl.apache.org/docs/1.0/guide/troubleshooting.html#install_driver_Oracle__failed__Can_t_load__DBD_Oracle_Oracle_so__for_module_DBD__Oracle - Perrin
[mp-1 ?] Apache::Util::escape_html could handle single quotation
I use Apache::Util::escape_html to perform fast HTML-escaping of the
data before displaying it. Unfortunately, this function handles
, , and but does not handle ' (single quote) - which
can be escaped as apos;
It would be nice if apos was handled. After all, in HTML file it is
almost equivalent to double quote (it is only the matter of style
whether one uses a href=some url or a href='some url').
Moreover, there happen situation where on can not change quotation
model like in (adapted real example I happened to have trouble with):
a href=javascript:somefun('[%some_var%]')
(where some_var is a variable escaped with escape_html and unfortunately
it can happen to contain apostrophe mark)
It seems to me that it would suffice to slightly change the
function my_escape_html in src/modules/perl/Util.xs by
adding new else-if in both if sequences.
PS I do not know how the thing looks in modperl-2 but in case there is
similar problem, I would suggest similar solution.
--
( Marcin Kasperski | A reusable framework that is developed by itself will )
( http://www.mk.w.pl |probably not be very reusable. (Martin))
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[Win32] ActivePerl-5.8 beta released
Of relevance to mod_perl-2 Win32 users, ActivePerl just released a beta version of their perl-5.8 binary; see http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/ Because of binary incompatibilities with 5.6, there's a separate 5.8 repository of ppm packages under http://www.activestate.com/ppmpackages/5.8-windows/ Such packages should be compatible with the perl-5.8 win32 binary we have under ftp://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/pub/other/perl-5.8-win32-bin.tar.gz if you've been using that. Even though the ActivePerl package is beta, they've tested it out beforehand and fixed some things compared to the CPAN perl-5.8 sources; see ftp://ftp.activestate.com/ActivePerl/src/5.8/ for the diffs and for the complete sources used. If you're using mod_perl-2 on Win32 with perl-5.6.1 and have run into problems (such as hanging registry scripts), you may want to try perl-5.8. Over the next few days I'll make up a 5.8 Win32 ppm repository with mod_perl-2 and some other common packages; I'll post something later with the details. Unless there's a large demand for mod_perl-1 stuff, this repository will just include mod_perl-2 packages. -- best regards, randy kobes
Re: [mp-1 ?] Apache::Util::escape_html could handle single quotation
* Marcin Kasperski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-08 16:22]:
I use Apache::Util::escape_html to perform fast HTML-escaping of the
data before displaying it. Unfortunately, this function handles
, , and but does not handle ' (single quote) - which
can be escaped as apos;
Hey, this is an easy one. Apply the attached patch to
mod_perl-1.XX/src/modules/perl/Util.xs, and single quotes will be
turned into apos;
(darren)
--
If history teaches us anything, it's that everyone will be part of the
problem, but not everyone will be part of the solution.
-- Larry Wall
--- Util.xs.origFri Nov 8 16:42:42 2002
+++ Util.xs Fri Nov 8 16:44:49 2002
@@ -67,6 +67,10 @@ static SV *my_escape_html(char *s)
memcpy(SvPVX(x)[j], quot;, 6);
j += 5;
}
+ else if (s[i] == '\'') {
+ memcpy(SvPVX(x)[j], apos;, 6);
+ j += 5;
+ }
else
SvPVX(x)[j] = s[i];
Apache 1.3.27 + Mod_perl(sunOS Solaris) installation problem
Hi ! I am trying to install Apache1.3.27 + Mod_perl 1.27... I was successful in eventually installing the apache with mod-perl support. I verified that mod-perl was installed by 'httpd -l' command. Everything seemd to be working the way it shoudl, but when i run the server... it says 'httpd server started' ... but actually the server is not started. The post is inaccessible through the browser and when u give the command to stop the http server, it says that the server is not running. Kindly, let me know the cause of such a problem and remedies to overcome them. Thanking you, Manish
Re: [mp-1 ?] Apache::Util::escape_html could handle single quotation
darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Marcin Kasperski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-11-08 16:22]: I use Apache::Util::escape_html to perform fast HTML-escaping of the data before displaying it. Unfortunately, this function handles , , and but does not handle ' (single quote) - which can be escaped as apos; Hey, this is an easy one. Apply the attached patch to mod_perl-1.XX/src/modules/perl/Util.xs, and single quotes will be turned into apos; Your patch seems to me to be partially wrong (you missed similar addition a few lines above, while calculating the destination size). Nevertheless, I write here about the problem because I would really like having such a change in the mainstream modperl distribution. Keeping my own patched modperl distribution, integrating changes etc is a bit troublesome (organizationally).
RE: [Win32] ActivePerl-5.8 beta released
Hi - Just wondering about DBI modules in 5.8. In both Randy's posted ppm packages list and via 5.8's ppm, I can't find: DBI (plain 'ole) DBD-ODBC DBD-Mysql I know this is beta, but are DBI modulrs such as these forthcoming? Aloha = Beau. -Original Message- From: Randy Kobes [mailto:randy;theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Win32] ActivePerl-5.8 beta released Of relevance to mod_perl-2 Win32 users, ActivePerl just released a beta version of their perl-5.8 binary; see http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/ Because of binary incompatibilities with 5.6, there's a separate 5.8 repository of ppm packages under http://www.activestate.com/ppmpackages/5.8-windows/ Such packages should be compatible with the perl-5.8 win32 binary we have under ftp://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/pub/other/perl-5.8-win32-bin.tar.gz if you've been using that. Even though the ActivePerl package is beta, they've tested it out beforehand and fixed some things compared to the CPAN perl-5.8 sources; see ftp://ftp.activestate.com/ActivePerl/src/5.8/ for the diffs and for the complete sources used. If you're using mod_perl-2 on Win32 with perl-5.6.1 and have run into problems (such as hanging registry scripts), you may want to try perl-5.8. Over the next few days I'll make up a 5.8 Win32 ppm repository with mod_perl-2 and some other common packages; I'll post something later with the details. Unless there's a large demand for mod_perl-1 stuff, this repository will just include mod_perl-2 packages. -- best regards, randy kobes
RE: [Win32] ActivePerl-5.8 beta released
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Beau E. Cox wrote: Hi - Just wondering about DBI modules in 5.8. In both Randy's posted ppm packages list and via 5.8's ppm, I can't find: DBI (plain 'ole) DBD-ODBC DBD-Mysql I know this is beta, but are DBI modulrs such as these forthcoming? Aloha = Beau. In ActiveState's announcement about the beta release they say that they expect to support a complete 5.8 ppm repository when an official release is made. There's no estimate given of when that might be. The modules you mention above though I have compliled and tested some with perl-5.8, and I'll add them to our repository if they're not in ActiveState's. -- best regards, randy
Re: [Win32] nmake error compiling mod_perl.so
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, jheckel wrote: Hi since two weeks I can no longer compile the mod_perl-2.0 package from the snapshot server without errors. The last good compilation was 10/27/2002:-( Apache version 2.0.44-dev, WinXP, Perl 5.6.1 Build 633. My install commands: perl Makefile.PL MP_AP_PREFIX=f:/apache2 nmake nmake install . C:\Programme\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\lib\msvcrt.lib -def:Access.def Creating library ..\..\..\blib\arch\auto\Apache\Access\Access.lib and object ..\..\..\blib\arch\auto\Apache\Access\Access.exp Access.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _newSVpvf ..\..\..\blib\arch\auto\Apache\Access\Access.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals The following patch, == Index: xs/Apache/Access/Apache__Access.h === RCS file: /home/cvspublic/modperl-2.0/xs/Apache/Access/Apache__Access.h,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 Apache__Access.h --- xs/Apache/Access/Apache__Access.h 22 Oct 2002 15:13:22 - 1.6 +++ xs/Apache/Access/Apache__Access.h 9 Nov 2002 05:06:47 - -60,7 +60,7 const char *errmsg; AV *config = newAV(); -av_push(config, newSVpvf(%s %s, directive, val)); +av_push(config, Perl_newSVpvf(aTHX_ %s %s, directive, val)); errmsg = modperl_config_insert_request(aTHX_ r, === allows this symbol to be found, and the associated access tests pass with perl-5.8 on Win32. -- best regards, randy
Re: Signal Handling in mod_perl ...
Hi there, On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Sylbert L wrote: I have this response handler, within which I've written this signal handler. When I pass a signal to that particular process, it is handled only when a request is processed, not when the signal is really received Apache has told its children to sleep until there's a request for them to process. That's what it does. What I'm trying to do is .. communicate between processes There have been many posts to this List about IPC (Inter Process Communication), with mod_perl, you might like to check the archives. Without more information I wouldn't know if what you're trying to do is a reasonable approach, but it sounds like hard work. 73, Ged.
Re: Apache 1.3.27 + Mod_perl(sunOS Solaris) installation problem
Hi there, On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Manish Anand wrote: I am trying to install Apache1.3.27 + Mod_perl 1.27... I was successful in eventually installing the apache with mod-perl support. I verified that mod-perl was installed by 'httpd -l' command. Everything seemd to be working the way it shoudl, but when i run the server... it says 'httpd server started' ... but actually the server is not started. The post is inaccessible through the browser and when u give the command to stop the http server, it says that the server is not running. Kindly, let me know the cause of such a problem and remedies to overcome them. You do not give enough information to say what might be wrong. Please read the documentation concerning what information should be given in messages to this list, and then provide that information. The first document you should to read is .../mod_perl-1.27/SUPPORT 73, Ged.
Re: [Win32] nmake error compiling mod_perl.so
Randy Kobes wrote: Does W:\programme\Perl\site\lib\auto\Apache\RequestRec\RequestRec.dll exist? This problem may have arisen from an earlier, incomplete, install, or perhaps trying to install/uninstall mod_perl while the server was running. Maybe try making sure the server is stopped, then doing an 'nmake install' again, perhaps twice. Hi, that was my fault: I forgot that Apache was still running on my W2k server in the LAN:-( Juergen
Re: [Win32] ActivePerl-5.8 beta released
Randy Kobes wrote: Of relevance to mod_perl-2 Win32 users, ActivePerl just released a beta version of their perl-5.8 binary; see http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/ Hi, thank you again. I was looking there the last days without finding the new version. Juergen
