Re: Sidebar patch - where can I find user instructions for using it?

2016-09-09 Thread Guy Gold
I'll piggy back on this issue, I hope it's alright. 

repo-installed-patched mutt on Ubuntu 
Mutt 1.5.24 (2015-08-30)

I can't make the sidebar pick a folder from my IMAP server. 
It errors out with something like: 
"no such folder ... /home/$user/Maildir"


Honestly, it's been two years since I've used the sidebar, and
back then it was per the tip from Lunar, and I used local
Maildir. 

Should the patch work with an IMAP connection ?

Thank you. 

On Thu,Sep 08 01:41:PM, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> Useful indeed.  However there are several differences from the
> cited webpage and my instance of 1.7.0 (Fedora 24).
> 
> Some examples:
> 
> toggle sidebar_visible  can use
> sidebar-toggle-visible
> 
> sidebar-scroll-up and sidebar-scroll-down  are
> sidebar-page-up and sidebar-page-down
> 
> in addition to sidebar-next and sidebar-prev  there are also
> sidebar-next-new and sidebar-prev-new
> 
> jon

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Re: Sidebar patch - where can I find user instructions for using it?

2016-09-09 Thread Marcelo Laia
On 07/09/16 at 03:50pm, Chris Green wrote:
> I have a login (as in ssh login) account on a system where they have
> just changed to using mutt with the sidebar patch.  It's mutt 1.5.23
> on a Debian 8 system.
> 


Debian updating mutt to neomutt.

"This package is built with the NeoMutt patchset,..."

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/mutt

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Re: Sidebar patch - where can I find user instructions for using it?

2016-09-08 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 09:03:44AM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 02:32:46AM +0200, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
> > On 07.09.16,15:50, Chris Green wrote:
> > > I have a login (as in ssh login) account on a system where they have
> > > just changed to using mutt with the sidebar patch.  It's mutt 1.5.23
> > > on a Debian 8 system.
> > > 
> > > Are there instructions for using the patch anywhere?  I use mutt
> > > (unpatched) at home so I know all the basics but at the moment I can't
> > > make the sidebar do anything.
> > > 
> > 
> > Check the Documentation section in this link:
> > 
> > http://www.lunar-linux.org/mutt-sidebar/
> > 
> > THe sidebar is also now a standard feature in the new mutt 1.7.0:
> > 
> > http://www.mutt.org/doc/UPDATING
> > 
> OK, thanks, just what I needed.
> 
Useful indeed.  However there are several differences from the
cited webpage and my instance of 1.7.0 (Fedora 24).

Some examples:

toggle sidebar_visible  can use
sidebar-toggle-visible

sidebar-scroll-up and sidebar-scroll-down  are
sidebar-page-up and sidebar-page-down

in addition to sidebar-next and sidebar-prev  there are also
sidebar-next-new and sidebar-prev-new

jon
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Re: Sidebar patch - where can I find user instructions for using it?

2016-09-08 Thread Chris Green
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 02:32:46AM +0200, Jostein Berntsen wrote:
> On 07.09.16,15:50, Chris Green wrote:
> > I have a login (as in ssh login) account on a system where they have
> > just changed to using mutt with the sidebar patch.  It's mutt 1.5.23
> > on a Debian 8 system.
> > 
> > Are there instructions for using the patch anywhere?  I use mutt
> > (unpatched) at home so I know all the basics but at the moment I can't
> > make the sidebar do anything.
> > 
> 
> Check the Documentation section in this link:
> 
> http://www.lunar-linux.org/mutt-sidebar/
> 
> THe sidebar is also now a standard feature in the new mutt 1.7.0:
> 
> http://www.mutt.org/doc/UPDATING
> 
OK, thanks, just what I needed.

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Re: Sidebar patch - where can I find user instructions for using it?

2016-09-07 Thread Jostein Berntsen

On 07.09.16,15:50, Chris Green wrote:

I have a login (as in ssh login) account on a system where they have
just changed to using mutt with the sidebar patch.  It's mutt 1.5.23
on a Debian 8 system.

Are there instructions for using the patch anywhere?  I use mutt
(unpatched) at home so I know all the basics but at the moment I can't
make the sidebar do anything.



Check the Documentation section in this link:

http://www.lunar-linux.org/mutt-sidebar/

THe sidebar is also now a standard feature in the new mutt 1.7.0:

http://www.mutt.org/doc/UPDATING


Jostein



Sidebar patch - where can I find user instructions for using it?

2016-09-07 Thread Chris Green
I have a login (as in ssh login) account on a system where they have
just changed to using mutt with the sidebar patch.  It's mutt 1.5.23
on a Debian 8 system.

Are there instructions for using the patch anywhere?  I use mutt
(unpatched) at home so I know all the basics but at the moment I can't
make the sidebar do anything.


-- 
Chris Green


[soved] Re: Sidebar-patch on OS X with homebrew won't work

2013-12-05 Thread Niels Kobschätzki


On 5 Dec 2013, at 10:50, Niels Kobschätzki wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I compiled mutt on OS X with homebrew with --with-sidebar-patch. 
> Unfortunately the sidebar won't come up. I found an example 
> configuration-file for the sidebar-patch in the net but when sourcing it, I 
> get only errors



> Any ideas what the problem could be?

I found the problem. In the current formular the sidebar-patch is not included 
and I had to add it manually

1. brew edit mutt
2. Added to line 31: option "with-sidebar-patch", "Apply sidebar patch"
3. Added to line 45: ['with-sidebar-patch', 
'https://raw.github.com/nedos/mutt-sidebar-pa  
tch/master/mutt-sidebar.patch'],

Then I could install it with brew install --with-sidebar-patch

Niels

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Sidebar-patch on OS X with homebrew won't work

2013-12-05 Thread Niels Kobschätzki
Hi,

I compiled mutt on OS X with homebrew with --with-sidebar-patch. Unfortunately 
the sidebar won't come up. I found an example configuration-file for the 
sidebar-patch in the net but when sourcing it, I get only errors

The code of the sidebar-file is:

# -*- muttrc -*-
#
# Sidebar settings for mutt.
#
# $Id: sidebar 16 2007-03-09 19:52:41Z vdanen $

set sidebar_width=26
set sidebar_visible=yes
set sidebar_delim='|'

# which mailboxes to list in the sidebar (list them all)
mailboxes =Inbox =Inbox-annvix

# color of folders with new mail
color sidebar_new yellow default

# alt-n, alt-p to select next/prev folder
# alt-o to open selected folder (doesn't seem to work??)
bind index \epsideb ar-prev
bind index \ensidebar-next
bind index \eosidebar-open
bind pa   ger \epsidebar-prev
bind pager \ensidebar-next
bind pager \eosidebar -open

# I don't need these.  just for documentation purposes.  See below.
# sidebar-scroll-up
# sidebar-scroll-down

# b toggles sidebar visibility
macro index b 'toggle sidebar_visible'
macro pager b 'toggle sidebar_visible'

# Remap bounce-message function to "B"
bind index B bounce-message

#
# Mario Holbe suggests:
# macro index b 'toggle sidebar_visible'
# macro pager b 'toggle
# sidebar_visible'
#


When I source it, I get the following errors:
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/sidebar, line 7: sidebar_width: unknown variable
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/sidebar, line 8: sidebar_visible: unknown variable
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/sidebar, line 9: sidebar_delim: unknown variable
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/sidebar, line 15: sidebar_new: no such object
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/sidebar, line 19: ar-prev: no such function in map
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/sidebar, line 20:
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/sidebar, line 21:
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/sidebar, line 22: pa: no such menu
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/sidebar, line 23:
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/sidebar, line 24: -open: no such function in map
Error in /Users/user/.mutt/muttrc, line 4: source: errors in 
/Users/user/.mutt/sidebar
source: errors in /Users/user/.mutt/muttrc

Any ideas what the problem could be?

Niels

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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-13 Thread Bob Proulx
James Griffin wrote:
> I believe Fedora/Redhat systems have a similar way of selecting
> which package/program should be your default using an
> "alternatives-type" command. Useful for Linux users.

At the risk of drifting too far from topic, yes, Red Hat / Fedora does
have alternatives.  It appears to me to be a port-then-rewrite of the
Debian tool.  But they use it for completely different purposes.  They
use it to control the choice of MTA and a few other high level system
choices.

On Debian only one of Postfix, Exim, Sendmail would be installed at a
time so no chooser is needed between them to arbitrate who gets
/usr/sbin/sendmail.  It is whichever one is installed.  But on
Fedora/RH both Postfix and Sendmail are both typically installed at
the same time.  They use the alternatives to select which one is
active gets control of /usr/sbin/sendmail (using the "mta" tag).  (And
along with chkconfig to determine which one starts and gets port 25.)
AFAICS on Fedora/RH the alternatives system isn't used for user seen
behavior such as /usr/bin/mutt selection and is pretty sparingly used
in general.

Bob


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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-13 Thread Christian Brabandt
Hi Marco!

On Mi, 13 Feb 2013, Marco wrote:

> On 2013–02–12 Bob Proulx wrote:
> 
> > Some time ago I posted this following in a discussion about the Debian
> > alternatives and it includes a walkthrough of how alternatives are
> > used and configured.  I think it is still relevant.  Perhaps it will
> > help others understand how the alternatives work.
> > 
> >   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/08/msg02808.html
> 
> Is it possible to set up the alternatives on a per user base?

No. But you can use alias or symlinks or shell scripts or whatever you 
prefer.



regards,
Christian
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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-13 Thread Marco
On 2013–02–12 Bob Proulx wrote:

> Some time ago I posted this following in a discussion about the Debian
> alternatives and it includes a walkthrough of how alternatives are
> used and configured.  I think it is still relevant.  Perhaps it will
> help others understand how the alternatives work.
> 
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/08/msg02808.html

Is it possible to set up the alternatives on a per user base?

Marco


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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-13 Thread James Griffin
- Bob Proulx  [2013-02-12 18:16:11 -0700] - :

> Luis Mochan wrote:
> > my system, /usr/bin/mutt is a link pointing to
> > /etc/alternatives/mutt. Furthermore, /etc/alternatives/mutt is a link
> > pointing to /usr/bin/mutt-patched, which is the actual binary for the
> > ...nice description of alternatives...
> 
> Some time ago I posted this following in a discussion about the Debian
> alternatives and it includes a walkthrough of how alternatives are
> used and configured.  I think it is still relevant.  Perhaps it will
> help others understand how the alternatives work.
> 
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/08/msg02808.html
> 
> Don't be confused by the topic of vi, nvi, vim, elvis differences.
> That is the just carrier wave upon which the Debian alternatives topic
> is discussed.  Just scroll down a page past that and look at the
> walkthrough part.
> 
> Bob
> 
> P.S. Wow.  Time flies!

Indeed it does! I believe Fedora/Redhat systems have a similar way of
selecting which package/program should be your default using an
"alternatives-type" command. Useful for Linux users. In fact, I belive
Macports also has a similar way of selecting "ports" the user might
prefer. I do use Macports but hardly use my Mac now, other than to watch
tv. If anyone wants to buy a Mac mini, Core i5 dual-core, 4G RAM let me
know LOL. It's become pretty redundant to me now.

Jamie. 



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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Luis Mochan wrote:
> my system, /usr/bin/mutt is a link pointing to
> /etc/alternatives/mutt. Furthermore, /etc/alternatives/mutt is a link
> pointing to /usr/bin/mutt-patched, which is the actual binary for the
> ...nice description of alternatives...

Some time ago I posted this following in a discussion about the Debian
alternatives and it includes a walkthrough of how alternatives are
used and configured.  I think it is still relevant.  Perhaps it will
help others understand how the alternatives work.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/08/msg02808.html

Don't be confused by the topic of vi, nvi, vim, elvis differences.
That is the just carrier wave upon which the Debian alternatives topic
is discussed.  Just scroll down a page past that and look at the
walkthrough part.

Bob

P.S. Wow.  Time flies!


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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-12 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 22:22:35 -0600, Luis Mochan wrote:
>  I guess there is still some confusion. When you installed
> mutt-patched, mutt was overwritten. The same thing happened to me.  In
> my system, /usr/bin/mutt is a link pointing to
> /etc/alternatives/mutt. Furthermore, /etc/alternatives/mutt is a link
> pointing to /usr/bin/mutt-patched, which is the actual binary for the
> patched version of mutt. Using the command update-alternatives as I
> mentioned a couple of messages ago, this link may be replaced by a
> link to /usr/bin/mutt-org, which is the binary for the unpatched
> mutt. Thus I can experiment alternating freely between mutt-patched
> and mutt (unpatched) without having to uninstall either. I use Debian,
> but I understand that the 'alternatives' system is available in Ubuntu
> also. 

(Note also that the alternates system is used only to determine which
version of the program the "mutt" command invokes -- you can always just
run "mutt-org" or "mutt-patched" explicitly to pick one or the other for
a particular run.)

Nathan  


Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-11 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:22:35PM -0600, Luis Mochan wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 09:22:20AM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> > ...
> > > I guess there is some confusion: Synaptic, like aptitude and apt-get,
> > > is for installing and removing packages. Update-alternatives is to
> > > choose which program to use when you have several programs installed
> > > that offer similar functionality, such as the patched and the
> > > un-patched versions of mutt. You may install both using synaptics and
> > > then choose which one to use (by default) without uninstalling the
> > > other. 
> > 
> > No, that is not how it worked. I had the normal mutt for months.
> > Yesterday I installed mutt-patched and it overwrote mutt. It was just a
> > link to mutt-patched. Am I missing something?
> > 
> Dear Brian,
> 
>  I guess there is still some confusion. When you installed
> mutt-patched, mutt was overwritten. The same thing happened to me.  In
> my system, /usr/bin/mutt is a link pointing to
> /etc/alternatives/mutt. Furthermore, /etc/alternatives/mutt is a link
> pointing to /usr/bin/mutt-patched, which is the actual binary for the
> patched version of mutt. Using the command update-alternatives as I
> mentioned a couple of messages ago, this link may be replaced by a
> link to /usr/bin/mutt-org, which is the binary for the unpatched
> mutt. Thus I can experiment alternating freely between mutt-patched
> and mutt (unpatched) without having to uninstall either. I use Debian,
> but I understand that the 'alternatives' system is available in Ubuntu
> also. 
> 
> Best regards,
> Luis

Many thanks. I understand it now. It is indeed like your describe in
Ubuntu. I had just not come across this alternates idea before.

Brian.

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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-11 Thread Luis Mochan
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 09:22:20AM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> ...
> > I guess there is some confusion: Synaptic, like aptitude and apt-get,
> > is for installing and removing packages. Update-alternatives is to
> > choose which program to use when you have several programs installed
> > that offer similar functionality, such as the patched and the
> > un-patched versions of mutt. You may install both using synaptics and
> > then choose which one to use (by default) without uninstalling the
> > other. 
> 
> No, that is not how it worked. I had the normal mutt for months.
> Yesterday I installed mutt-patched and it overwrote mutt. It was just a
> link to mutt-patched. Am I missing something?
> 
Dear Brian,

 I guess there is still some confusion. When you installed
mutt-patched, mutt was overwritten. The same thing happened to me.  In
my system, /usr/bin/mutt is a link pointing to
/etc/alternatives/mutt. Furthermore, /etc/alternatives/mutt is a link
pointing to /usr/bin/mutt-patched, which is the actual binary for the
patched version of mutt. Using the command update-alternatives as I
mentioned a couple of messages ago, this link may be replaced by a
link to /usr/bin/mutt-org, which is the binary for the unpatched
mutt. Thus I can experiment alternating freely between mutt-patched
and mutt (unpatched) without having to uninstall either. I use Debian,
but I understand that the 'alternatives' system is available in Ubuntu
also. 

Best regards,
Luis


Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-11 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 03:55:09PM -0600, Luis Mochan wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 08:29:29AM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> > ...
> > > 
> > > Under Debian you could run 
> > > 
> > >   sudo update-alternatives --config mutt
> > > 
> > > to choose which mutt (patched or not) to run by default. I guess that
> > > Ubuntu is similar. Thus, it was not really necessary to
> > > uninstall/reinstall in order to test and choose among the two mutt 
> > > versions. Of
> > > course, you already did...
> > 
> > Indeed. I used the synaptic package manager. That is probably more
> > simple minded than updating from a prompt in the terminal. Nevertheless
> > it is very easy to use.
> > 
> 
> I guess there is some confusion: Synaptic, like aptitude and apt-get,
> is for installing and removing packages. Update-alternatives is to
> choose which program to use when you have several programs installed
> that offer similar functionality, such as the patched and the
> un-patched versions of mutt. You may install both using synaptics and
> then choose which one to use (by default) without uninstalling the
> other. 

No, that is not how it worked. I had the normal mutt for months.
Yesterday I installed mutt-patched and it overwrote mutt. It was just a
link to mutt-patched. Am I missing something?

Brian.

> Regards,
> Luis
> 
> 
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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-11 Thread Luis Mochan
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 08:29:29AM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> ...
> > 
> > Under Debian you could run 
> > 
> >   sudo update-alternatives --config mutt
> > 
> > to choose which mutt (patched or not) to run by default. I guess that
> > Ubuntu is similar. Thus, it was not really necessary to
> > uninstall/reinstall in order to test and choose among the two mutt 
> > versions. Of
> > course, you already did...
> 
> Indeed. I used the synaptic package manager. That is probably more
> simple minded than updating from a prompt in the terminal. Nevertheless
> it is very easy to use.
> 

I guess there is some confusion: Synaptic, like aptitude and apt-get,
is for installing and removing packages. Update-alternatives is to
choose which program to use when you have several programs installed
that offer similar functionality, such as the patched and the
un-patched versions of mutt. You may install both using synaptics and
then choose which one to use (by default) without uninstalling the
other. 
Regards,
Luis


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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-11 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 03:16:08PM -0600, Luis Mochan wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 08:02:39AM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 09:53:17AM +0100, Scott Stevenson wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 06:56:46AM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 06:46:11PM +0100, Scott Stevenson wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:52:57PM +0530, dexter wrote:
> > > > > > ...
> > easier to use mutt without it. Unfortunately installing mutt-patched
> > installed /usr/bin/mutt-patched but overwrote /usr/bin/mutt to be a soft
> > link to mutt-patched. I had to uninstall mutt-patched and then reinstall
> > mutt to get rid of the sidebar. Back to normal now.
> > 
> 
> Under Debian you could run 
> 
>   sudo update-alternatives --config mutt
> 
> to choose which mutt (patched or not) to run by default. I guess that
> Ubuntu is similar. Thus, it was not really necessary to
> uninstall/reinstall in order to test and choose among the two mutt versions. 
> Of
> course, you already did...

Indeed. I used the synaptic package manager. That is probably more
simple minded than updating from a prompt in the terminal. Nevertheless
it is very easy to use.

Brian.

> Best regards,
> Luis
> 
> 
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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-11 Thread Luis Mochan
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 08:02:39AM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 09:53:17AM +0100, Scott Stevenson wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 06:56:46AM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 06:46:11PM +0100, Scott Stevenson wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:52:57PM +0530, dexter wrote:
> > > > > ...
> easier to use mutt without it. Unfortunately installing mutt-patched
> installed /usr/bin/mutt-patched but overwrote /usr/bin/mutt to be a soft
> link to mutt-patched. I had to uninstall mutt-patched and then reinstall
> mutt to get rid of the sidebar. Back to normal now.
> 

Under Debian you could run 

  sudo update-alternatives --config mutt

to choose which mutt (patched or not) to run by default. I guess that
Ubuntu is similar. Thus, it was not really necessary to
uninstall/reinstall in order to test and choose among the two mutt versions. Of
course, you already did...
Best regards,
Luis


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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-11 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 09:53:17AM +0100, Scott Stevenson wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 06:56:46AM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 06:46:11PM +0100, Scott Stevenson wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:52:57PM +0530, dexter wrote:
> > > > I'm new to mutt, just installed one and getting 
> > > > to know it, how do i get sidebar in mutt, google
> > > > search tells me that i have to apply a patch,
> > > > i'm running on ubuntu, where can i get this patch?
> > > 
> > > Debian and derivatives such as Ubuntu provide a `mutt-patched` package,
> > > which includes the sidebar patch.
> > 
> > I have Ubuntu 12.04 and Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15) unmodified by me. It
> > does not have the sidebar patch as far as I can see. 
> 
> Then I suspect you have the `mutt` package [0] installed rather than
> `mutt-patched` [1]. The sidebar patch is only included in the latter.
> 
> [0] http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/mail/mutt
> [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/mail/mutt-patched

Yes, you are right. mutt has a whole lot of patches included, so I did
not think to look for a more patched version. I have long been wary
about the sidebar patch but had never tried it. I now understand why it
is not included in the main release and I fully support that. It is
easier to use mutt without it. Unfortunately installing mutt-patched
installed /usr/bin/mutt-patched but overwrote /usr/bin/mutt to be a soft
link to mutt-patched. I had to uninstall mutt-patched and then reinstall
mutt to get rid of the sidebar. Back to normal now.

Brian.
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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-11 Thread Scott Stevenson
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 06:56:46AM +1100, Brian Salter-Duke wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 06:46:11PM +0100, Scott Stevenson wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:52:57PM +0530, dexter wrote:
> > > I'm new to mutt, just installed one and getting 
> > > to know it, how do i get sidebar in mutt, google
> > > search tells me that i have to apply a patch,
> > > i'm running on ubuntu, where can i get this patch?
> > 
> > Debian and derivatives such as Ubuntu provide a `mutt-patched` package,
> > which includes the sidebar patch.
> 
> I have Ubuntu 12.04 and Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15) unmodified by me. It
> does not have the sidebar patch as far as I can see. 

Then I suspect you have the `mutt` package [0] installed rather than
`mutt-patched` [1]. The sidebar patch is only included in the latter.

[0] http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/mail/mutt
[1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/mail/mutt-patched

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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-10 Thread Ed
On Feb 10, Scott Stevenson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:52:57PM +0530, dexter wrote:
> > I'm new to mutt, just installed one and getting 
> > to know it, how do i get sidebar in mutt, google
> > search tells me that i have to apply a patch,
> > i'm running on ubuntu, where can i get this patch?

>From a terminal::

sudo apt-get install mutt-patched

Its in your repository. You probably also want to install mutt-print if you 
plan on printing out any mail.

Ed



Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-10 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 06:46:11PM +0100, Scott Stevenson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:52:57PM +0530, dexter wrote:
> > I'm new to mutt, just installed one and getting 
> > to know it, how do i get sidebar in mutt, google
> > search tells me that i have to apply a patch,
> > i'm running on ubuntu, where can i get this patch?
> 
> Debian and derivatives such as Ubuntu provide a `mutt-patched` package,
> which includes the sidebar patch.

I have Ubuntu 12.04 and Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15) unmodified by me. It
does not have the sidebar patch as far as I can see. 

Brian.
 
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Re: sidebar patch

2013-02-10 Thread Scott Stevenson
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:52:57PM +0530, dexter wrote:
> I'm new to mutt, just installed one and getting 
> to know it, how do i get sidebar in mutt, google
> search tells me that i have to apply a patch,
> i'm running on ubuntu, where can i get this patch?

Debian and derivatives such as Ubuntu provide a `mutt-patched` package,
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sidebar patch

2013-02-10 Thread dexter
Hi,

I'm new to mutt, just installed one and getting 
to know it, how do i get sidebar in mutt, google
search tells me that i have to apply a patch,
i'm running on ubuntu, where can i get this patch?

-dexter


some ideas about mutt sidebar patch

2012-07-07 Thread chris

I have use sidebar path for a long time.
Now I find it can be improved with some features.
1. Change the flag emails number with new emails reply to me or my thread.
Detail:
Mutt sidebar path has three number 100(90)[3].
The `100` is the all emails number.
The `(90)` is the new emails number.
The `[3]` is the [!] flagged emails number.
I think the flagged emails number is not so important. Usually I will n=
ot go=20
to see how much flagged emails in mailbox. I would prefer to see how ma=
ny=20
new emails which reply only to me or reply to my send emails (thread in=
 a=20
mailing list).

2. I have subscribed many mailing list, and have some other separate mailbo=
xes. =20
   Just in order to categories them.
   I find it is too long for sidebar now.
   When I press  to scroll down. sidebar can not display one mailbox w=
hen=20
   scroll a page.
mailbox
mailbox
mailbox
--- next page
mailbox (when scroll, this mailbox can not be displayed.)
mailbox
mailbox
mailbox

So I think sidebar path should some feature like collapse a mailbox gro=
up.
e.g.
Vim
  anon
  dev
  user
can be collapsed to:
Vim+

This is all I suggest.

If you have any thinks on my two ideas, please tell.
And of course, I can not write code for sidebar. I'm just a user.
(Because if I can write code, I will write by myself.)

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mutt with sidebar patch: problems with display followed by segfault

2012-06-07 Thread weertex
Hello,

I have mutt with sidebar patch configured for two account in such a
way so it will change sidebar when changing the account. Unfortunately
I'm experiencing strange problems with display which are followed by
segfault. Its difficult to explain so I did a screen cast to
illustrate the issue [1]. Please notice how after mutt's segfault even
output of simple 'ls -l' command is distorted.

I tried 'mutt-sidebar' [2] and 'uber-mutt' [3] from AUR (both using
different sidebar patches) but the issue persists. Mutt's behaviour is
the same regardless of using it under terminal without X-windows,
urxvt or tmux.

Content of my muttrc:

  set alias_file = ${MUTTDIR}/aliases
  set mailcap_path   = ${MUTTDIR}/mailcap
  set tmpdir = ${MUTTDIR}/temp
  source ${MUTTDIR}/aliases
  source ${MUTTDIR}/macros
  set mbox_type  = Maildir
  set folder = ~/mail
  set spoolfile  = +gmail/INBOX
  set auto_tag
unset beep
  set beep_new
unset confirmappend
  set delete
unset markers
unset mark_old
  set menu_scroll
  set pager_context  = 5
  set pager_index_lines  = 10
  set pager_stop
  set reverse_alias
  set sendmail_wait  = -1
  set sort   = threads
  set sort_aux   = reverse-last-date-received
unset sort_re
  set thorough_search
  set thread_received
  set tilde
  set timeout= 3
unset use_domain
unset wait_key
unset wrap_search
  set sidebar_width  = 25
  set sidebar_visible= yes
  set sidebar_delim  = '|'
  bind index \Cp sidebar-prev
  bind index \Cn sidebar-next
  bind index \Co sidebar-open
  bind pager \Cp sidebar-prev
  bind pager \Cn sidebar-next
  bind pager \Co sidebar-open
  auto_viewtext/html
  alternative_ordertext/plain text/enriched text/html
  set alias_format   = "%4n %t %-20a %r"
  set compose_format = "──| %v  :  Compose |/ Approx. msg
size: %l   Atts. %a /%>─"
  set date_format= "%m/%d/%y@%H:%M"
  set forward_format = "Fwd: %s"
  set index_format   = "%3C %Z %D %-17.17F %s"
  set quote_regexp   = "^( {0,4}[>|:#%]| {0,4}[a-z0-9]+[>|]+)+"
  set reply_regexp   = "^(([Rr][Ee]?(\[[0-9]+\])?: *)?(\[[^]]+\] *)?)*"
  set status_format  = "-%r- %v ───/ %f %m%?n? [+%n]?%?d?
[-%d]?%?t? [*%t]? /%?p?───/ %p waiting to send /?─%>─(%P)───"
  set abort_nosubject
  set autoedit
  set edit_headers
  set forward_quote
  set include
  set realname= "Me"
  set reply_to
  set reverse_name
unset user_agent
  ignore *
  unignore from: to: cc: date: subject:
  hdr_order from: to: cc: date: subject:
  folder-hook gmail/* source ${MUTTDIR}/accounts/gmail
  folder-hook two/*   source ${MUTTDIR}/accounts/two
  subscribe offlineimap-project mutt-users
  folder-hook two/lists/(offlineimap|mutt-users|) "exec collapse-all"

Content of settings form specific accounts (both are almost the same
so here is just one):

color status green default
  set from= 'Me  '
  set sendmail= "/usr/bin/msmtpq -a gmail"
unmailboxes *
  mailboxes   = +gmail/INBOX +gmail/spam +gmail/drafts
+gmail/bin +gmail/sent +gmail/archive
  set postponed   = +gmail/drafts
  set record  = +gmail/sent
  set trash   = +gmail/bin
  set signature   = ${MUTTDIR}/sigs/gmail.sig

macro index ,c "+two/INBOX" "change accounts"
macro index S "+gmail/spam"  "mark message as spam"

I tried stripping muttrc to bare minimum, like so:

  set mbox_type  = Maildir
  set folder = ~/mail
  set spoolfile  = +gmail/INBOX
  set sidebar_width  = 25
  set sidebar_visible= yes
  set sidebar_delim  = '|'
  bind index \Cp sidebar-prev
  bind index \Cn sidebar-next
  bind index \Co sidebar-open
  bind pager \Cp sidebar-prev
  bind pager \Cn sidebar-next
  bind pager \Co sidebar-open
folder-hook gmail/* source ${MUTTDIR}/accounts/gmail
folder-hook two/*   source ${MUTTDIR}/accounts/two

But that didn't help... Did anyone came across similar behaviour and -
what's more important - solution to it?


1. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11250432/index.html
2. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7168
3. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37609

Regards,
weertex


Re: Sidebar patch bolds text inside message body

2011-10-20 Thread du yang
On Sunday 10/16/11 02:29:25 CST, Onoie Andrei wrote:
> The issue is that everything that I highlight in the body or the header
> of the message becomes bold or sometimes reversed.
> Say I have
> 
> color header color74 color233 "^From"
> 
> 'From' in the header of the mail becomes in bold.This didn't happen when
> I didn't have the sidebar patch applied.
> I have no idea why this is happening.
> If anybody has a fix for this, then please reply to the mail.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

I am using mutt with sidebar which is installed by gentoo portage.
there is no such problem as you said.
so I suggest you to try the sidebar patch from gentoo portage.
you can download the patches here,
http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo/distfiles/mutt-1.5.21-gentoo-patches-r7.tar.bz2
there patches seems to be relate to sidebar. gentoo portage installed
some other patches as well, so it is not sure there would be no problem if
just installed the only three patches for sidebar.

my 'mutt -v' is,
Mutt 1.5.21 (2010-09-15, Gentoo 1.5.21-r7)
Copyright (C) 1996-2009 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 3.0.6-gentoo (i686)
ncurses: ncurses 5.9.20110404 (compiled with 5.9)
hcache backend: GDBM version 1.9.1. 13/08/2011 (built Sep 22 2011
19:05:02)
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
+HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  -USE_FCNTL
+USE_FLOCK   
+USE_POP  -USE_NNTP  +USE_IMAP  -USE_SMTP  
-USE_SSL_OPENSSL  +USE_SSL_GNUTLS  +USE_SASL  -USE_GSS
+HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
-HAVE_REGCOMP  +USE_GNU_REGEX  +COMPRESSED  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET  
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP  -CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME
-CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME  
-EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET
+HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  -HAVE_LIBIDN  +HAVE_GETSID  +USE_HCACHE  
ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell"
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="Maildir"
PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/etc/mutt"
EXECSHELL="/bin/sh"
MIXMASTER="mixmaster"
To contact the developers, please mail to .
To report a bug, please visit http://bugs.mutt.org/.

fg.sidebar-dotpathsep
ar.sidebar-utf8
sidebar
patch-1.5.11.vk.pgp_verbose_mime
cd.trash_folder.3.4
dgc.subjrx
fg.change_folder_next
fg.smarttime
vvv.initials
vvv.quote
vvv.nntp
patch-1.5.20hg.pdmef.progress.vl.2
rr.compressed
patch-1.5.4.lpr.collapse_flagged Lukas P. Ruf 

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Sidebar patch bolds text inside message body

2011-10-15 Thread Onoie Andrei
Hello.
I am using mutt with the sidebar patch (mutt-sidebar from AUR) from
lunar-linux.org on Arch linux.
My mutt -v is:

(start)-
Mutt 1.5.20 (2009-06-14)
Copyright (C) 1996-2009 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 3.0-ARCH (i686)
slang: 20204
hcache backend: GDBM version 1.8.3. 10/15/2002 (built Jan  7 2011 13:57:19)
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
-DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  -USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  -DL_STANDALONE  +USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK   
+USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  +USE_SMTP  
+USE_SSL_OPENSSL  -USE_SSL_GNUTLS  +USE_SASL  -USE_GSS  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
-HAVE_REGCOMP  +USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  -HAVE_START_COLOR  -HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  -HAVE_BKGDSET  
-HAVE_CURS_SET  -HAVE_META  -HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP  +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME  +CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME  
-EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET  
+HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  -HAVE_LIBIDN  +HAVE_GETSID  +USE_HCACHE  
-ISPELL
SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/mail"
PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/etc"
EXECSHELL="/bin/sh"
-MIXMASTER
To contact the developers, please mail to .
To report a bug, please visit http://bugs.mutt.org/.

patch-1.5.16hg.cd.trash_folder.vl.1
patch-1.5.20.sidebar.20090619.txt
(end)-

The issue is that everything that I highlight in the body or the header
of the message becomes bold or sometimes reversed.
Say I have

color header color74 color233 "^From"

'From' in the header of the mail becomes in bold.This didn't happen when
I didn't have the sidebar patch applied.
I have no idea why this is happening.
If anybody has a fix for this, then please reply to the mail.

Thanks in advance.


Re: Sidebar patch for mutt-1.5.21

2011-01-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 16:42:58 -0900, Tim Johnson  wrote:
>  I have been using 1.5.19 with the sidebar path for some time now.
>  I just downloaded version 1.5.21, which I presume to be the current
>  stable version.
> 
>  Where are instructions for the sidebar patch for this version?
> 
>  Note: I did a quick google and I seem to be seeing some conflicting
>  information and am not entirely sure the current sidebar code is
>  compatible with the current (1.5.21) version of mutt.

I am running 1.5.21 from an openSUSE rpm.  I have the src rpm and
extracted the sidebar related patches that you can try.

here:
   http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/mutt-1.5.21.sidebar-fix.dif
   http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/patch-1.5.21.sidebar-aa6aa.txt.bz2

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Re: Sidebar patch for mutt-1.5.21

2011-01-22 Thread Tim Johnson
* Brandon Sandrowicz  [110121 21:32]:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 04:42:58PM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote:
> > Where are instructions for the sidebar patch for this version?
> > 
> > Comments welcome
> 
> Not really sure. I've tried to fix various things that are wrong with
> the sidebar patch in the past, but the emails were never returned by the
> maintainer.
> 
> (To see things wrong with the sidebar patch, try various combinations of
> of the settings status_on_top and help while the sidebar is enabled.)

  Yeah, lots of quirks with the sidebar, but I still like it. I can
  live without it tho'. There must be some reason that the mutt
  developer didn't chose to implement it.
  cheers
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Re: Sidebar patch for mutt-1.5.21

2011-01-21 Thread Brandon Sandrowicz
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 04:42:58PM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote:
> I have been using 1.5.19 with the sidebar path for some time now.
> I just downloaded version 1.5.21, which I presume to be the current
> stable version.
> 
> Where are instructions for the sidebar patch for this version?
> 
> Note: I did a quick google and I seem to be seeing some conflicting
> information and am not entirely sure the current sidebar code is
> compatible with the current (1.5.21) version of mutt.
> 
> Comments welcome
> TIA
> -- 
> Tim 
> tim at johnsons-web.com or akwebsoft.com
> http://www.akwebsoft.com

Not really sure. I've tried to fix various things that are wrong with
the sidebar patch in the past, but the emails were never returned by the
maintainer.

(To see things wrong with the sidebar patch, try various combinations of
of the settings status_on_top and help while the sidebar is enabled.)
-- 
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Sidebar patch for mutt-1.5.21

2011-01-21 Thread Tim Johnson
I have been using 1.5.19 with the sidebar path for some time now.
I just downloaded version 1.5.21, which I presume to be the current
stable version.

Where are instructions for the sidebar patch for this version?

Note: I did a quick google and I seem to be seeing some conflicting
information and am not entirely sure the current sidebar code is
compatible with the current (1.5.21) version of mutt.

Comments welcome
TIA
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Maildir vs sidebar patch

2009-10-21 Thread Andrey Zhidenkov
I canged a mbox to Maildir lately and have a problem. Sidebar patch don't
show list of mailboxes. It's empty. When I type 'c' and set mailbox manually,
it works, but sidebar don't see my boxes.

My mutt version is 1.5.20, i've installed it from FreeBSD ports with options:

make WITH_MUTT_MAILDIR_MTIME_PATCH=yes WITH_MUTT_NNTP=yes 
WITH_MUTT_IMAP_HEADER_CACHE=yes WITH_MUTT_MAILDIR_HEADER_CACHE=yes 
WITH_MUTT_EDIT_THREADS=yes WITH_MUTT_SIDEBAR_PATCH=yes install clean

What can I do to solve the problem?

A part of my ~/.muttrc, connected to maildir:

set mbox_type="Maildir"
set spoolfile=~/Maildir/default
set mbox=~/Maildir/default
set postponed=~/Maildir/postponed
set record=~/Maildir/sent

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Re: sidebar patch for 1.5.19

2009-02-10 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Cristóbal Palmer [090206 16:51 -0500]
> On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:12:39AM +0300, Andrey Zhidenkov wrote:
> > Is there a sidebar patch for 1.5.19 version? Where can I get it?
> 
> I vaguely remember the debian package maintainer saying that he was
> working on mutt-patched to get it working for .19, but that there was
> a lot of work to be done before that would work. Can't seem to find
> that email, though.

You can find an inoffical package (i386|amd64|ppc) including
sidebar, indexcolor, tokyocabinett  and sources here:
deb  http://www.lxtec.de/debarchiv unstable main
deb-src  http://www.lxtec.de/debarchiv unstable main

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Re: sidebar patch for 1.5.19

2009-02-08 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Cristóbal Palmer 2009-02-06 <20090206215134.gb23...@garp.metalab.unc.edu>
> > Is there a sidebar patch for 1.5.19 version? Where can I get it?
> 
> I vaguely remember the debian package maintainer saying that he was
> working on mutt-patched to get it working for .19, but that there was
> a lot of work to be done before that would work. Can't seem to find
> that email, though.
> 
> If you really like your sidebar, I suggest you stick with .18 for now
> or help the debian folks work on mutt-patched.

Antonio is doing a great job with doing BTS housekeeping, and
forwarding the "real" bugs to mutt's trac.

Wrt to mutt-patched, it's definitely not very high on my priority
list. I haven't seen a new patch from Terry yet:

http://www.lunar-linux.org/index.php?page=mutt-sidebar

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Re: sidebar patch for 1.5.19

2009-02-06 Thread Cristóbal Palmer
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:12:39AM +0300, Andrey Zhidenkov wrote:
> Is there a sidebar patch for 1.5.19 version? Where can I get it?

I vaguely remember the debian package maintainer saying that he was
working on mutt-patched to get it working for .19, but that there was
a lot of work to be done before that would work. Can't seem to find
that email, though.

If you really like your sidebar, I suggest you stick with .18 for now
or help the debian folks work on mutt-patched.

http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mutt.html

Cheers,
-- 
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ibiblio.org systems administrator
cdla.unc.edu research assistant


sidebar patch for 1.5.19

2009-02-05 Thread Andrey Zhidenkov
Is there a sidebar patch for 1.5.19 version? Where can I get it?

Thank you.


Re: sidebar patch - performance

2008-04-06 Thread Eric Smith
>> I use the sidebar patch myself and the only performance problem I see
>> with my mutt is that loading mailboxes with quite a few messages takes
>> some time. I don't know, however, if this is related to the side bar
>> patch.

Same here.


Re: sidebar patch - performance

2008-04-06 Thread Raffi Khatchadourian

On Sun  6.Apr'08 at 11:04:20 +0100, Raffi Khatchadourian wrote:

On Sun  6.Apr'08 at  0:08:36 +0200, Eric Smith wrote:

My pleasure in having the sidebar patch transform the mutt user
experience has just been destroyed by observing the poor performance
of for example scrolling up and down the index.

There seems to be some buffer overload with delayed response compared
to an unpatched mutt which is much more responsive.

Am I alone in experiencing this?

It also seems strange to me that the sidebar feature is not seen as a
high priority by the general mutt community.


I use the sidebar patch myself and the only performance problem I see
with my mutt is that loading mailboxes with quite a few messages takes
some time. I don't know, however, if this is related to the side bar
patch.


By the way, I think the side bar is an important feature and should be
seen as high priority as well.


Re: sidebar patch - performance

2008-04-06 Thread Raffi Khatchadourian

On Sun  6.Apr'08 at  0:08:36 +0200, Eric Smith wrote:

My pleasure in having the sidebar patch transform the mutt user
experience has just been destroyed by observing the poor performance of
for example scrolling up and down the index.

There seems to be some buffer overload with delayed response compared
to an unpatched mutt which is much more responsive.

Am I alone in experiencing this?

It also seems strange to me that the sidebar feature is not seen as a
high priority by the general mutt community.


I use the sidebar patch myself and the only performance problem I see
with my mutt is that loading mailboxes with quite a few messages takes
some time. I don't know, however, if this is related to the side bar
patch.


sidebar patch - performance

2008-04-05 Thread Eric Smith
My pleasure in having the sidebar patch transform the mutt user
experience has just been destroyed by observing the poor
performance of for example scrolling up and down the index.

There seems to be some buffer overload with delayed response
compared to an unpatched mutt which is much more responsive.

Am I alone in experiencing this?

It also seems strange to me that the sidebar feature is not
seen as a high priority by the general mutt community.

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-12 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

[...]
> Thanks, changing n to F index_author works now with the mentioned problems 
> of collapsing a mailbox. This is bad. Since I don???t want all threads in 
> my mailboxes uncollapsed if no new mail is available in them, I can???t use 
> index_author or index_subject.

Have a look at the header of debian/patches/not-applied/indexcolor
and you can discuss this with the author.

> Shade and sweet water!

Ohhh no, heater on and a pint of beer now ;)

Elimar

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-12 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 06:35:07PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 the mental interface of Stephan Seitz told:
The index colour patch works as expected, if I don???t have the 
line(s)

- folder-hook . 'push ;push V'


index_subject doesn't color collapsed threads. This seems to be a
bug :(


Well, the subject lines to be coloured weren’t part of a thread, so they 
were not collapsed, but it seems that using V will break not only 
index_subject but index_author as well as further testings showed. The 
coloured lines begin to slip. Say, if there was something to colour in 
line 4 (without collapsed threads) and I collapse all threads in the 
mailbox, the colour will stay in line 4, even if the message now in this 
line doesn’t match the expression anymore.


My quick solution (moving the folder-hook after the colour definitions) 
was wrong. I does not work.



index_author colors %F


Thanks, changing n to F index_author works now with the mentioned 
problems of collapsing a mailbox. This is bad. Since I don’t want all 
threads in my mailboxes uncollapsed if no new mail is available in them, 
I can’t use index_author or index_subject.


But thanks for your help and patience.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-12 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

> On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 05:27:46PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
>> Do you have your colorsettings in a separated file which isn't
>> sourced by the main muttrc?
>
> Now we are getting closer. Yes, I do, and this file is the last sourced 
> colour file.
>
> However, checking my muttrc settings and testing line for line I got the 
> following results:
> The index colour patch works as expected, if I don???t have the line(s)
> - folder-hook . 'push ;push V'

index_subject doesn't color collapsed threads. This seems to be a
bug :(

>   This breaks index_subject, strange subject lines are coloured.
> - set index_format="%4C [%3M] %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15n %s"
>   or
>   set index_format="%4C [%3M] (%4c) %2Z %{%b %d} %17.17n %-20.20t %s"
>   This breaks index_author, nothing is coloured anymore.

index_author colors %F

See
file://localhost/usr/share/doc/mutt/html/manual.html#index-format

> Putting the the folder-hook after the colour definition will result in a 
> working index_subject again, but index_format breaks index_author not 
> matter if the line is before or after the colour definition.
>
> Can you reproduce this with your version?

Yes I can.

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-12 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 05:27:46PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

Do you have your colorsettings in a separated file which isn't
sourced by the main muttrc?


Now we are getting closer. Yes, I do, and this file is the last sourced 
colour file.


However, checking my muttrc settings and testing line for line I got the 
following results:

The index colour patch works as expected, if I don’t have the line(s)
- folder-hook . 'push ;push V'
  This breaks index_subject, strange subject lines are coloured.
- set index_format="%4C [%3M] %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15n %s"
  or
  set index_format="%4C [%3M] (%4c) %2Z %{%b %d} %17.17n %-20.20t %s"
  This breaks index_author, nothing is coloured anymore.

Putting the the folder-hook after the colour definition will result in 
a working index_subject again, but index_format breaks index_author not 
matter if the line is before or after the colour definition.


Can you reproduce this with your version?

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-12 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

[...]

> Besides, if the patch was not applied, mutt would print an error for 
> unknown variables.

You're right :)

> For testing purposes I downloaded your mutt version from 
> http://www.lxtec.de/debarchiv/ and tested it on my i386 box. It produces 
> the same results as my own compiled version. So there is no difference 
> between your version and my version on two plattforms.

Your built and your provided binary works as it should on my System.
Do you have your colorsettings in a separated file which isn't
sourced by the main muttrc?

> I compared the ldd output between the two versions, but besides the 
> different header cache libraries and my kerberos support, there are no 
> differences.
>
> I???m using Debian Testing.

That doesn't matter.

Elimar


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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-12 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 10:16:03PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

Tried that:
Patch not-applied/indexcolor does not apply (enforce with -f)


Hm:
Wende Patch not-applied/indexcolor an
patching file color.c
patching file curs_lib.c
Hunk #1 succeeded at 659 (offset 11 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 675 (offset 11 lines).
patching file hdrline.c
Hunk #1 succeeded at 103 (offset 4 lines).
Hunk #9 succeeded at 601 (offset 4 lines).
Hunk #10 succeeded at 713 (offset 4 lines).
Hunk #11 succeeded at 735 (offset 4 lines).
Hunk #12 succeeded at 763 (offset 4 lines).
patching file menu.c
patching file mutt_curses.h
Hunk #2 succeeded at 185 (offset 10 lines).
patching file mutt.h
Hunk #1 succeeded at 182 (offset 6 lines).
patching file doc/manual.xml.head
Hunk #1 succeeded at 2016 (offset 179 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 2080 (offset 179 lines).
patching file PATCHES

Besides, if the patch was not applied, mutt would print an error for 
unknown variables.


For testing purposes I downloaded your mutt version from 
http://www.lxtec.de/debarchiv/ and tested it on my i386 box. It produces 
the same results as my own compiled version. So there is no difference 
between your version and my version on two plattforms.


I compared the ldd output between the two versions, but besides the 
different header cache libraries and my kerberos support, there are no 
differences.


I’m using Debian Testing.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-12 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

> On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:05:13PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
>> How did you compile your mutt version?
>
> The debian way, I downloaded mutt-15.17 (debian/unstable) and from your 
> site. I copied the er-patches directory from your source to the debian 
> source, corrected the series file and did ???debian/rules build??? 
> ???debian/rules binary???.
>
> Additional to your patches I have the debian patches for chdir and w3mface 
> applied.

Tried that:

Patch not-applied/indexcolor does not apply (enforce with -f)

Hmm.

Elimar

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

> On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:05:13PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
>> How did you compile your mutt version?
>
> The debian way, I downloaded mutt-15.17 (debian/unstable) and from your 
> site. I copied the er-patches directory from your source to the debian 
> source, corrected the series file and did ???debian/rules build??? 
> ???debian/rules binary???.
>
> Additional to your patches I have the debian patches for chdir and w3mface 
> applied.

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

> On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:37:18PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
>> It seems, that your indexcolor patch didn't applied corect.
>
> Well, I build mutt again and checked if there were some rejects. There are 
> none. The patch applied without failures, only some hunks are mentioned. 
> But this new mutt showed the same behaviour like the old one.
>
> So if there are no problems with the amd64 architecture, I don???t know any 
> other reason, what it could be.

Please send me the mutt_1.5.17_i386.build file via PM.

Elimar


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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:37:18PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

It seems, that your indexcolor patch didn't applied corect.


Well, I build mutt again and checked if there were some rejects. There 
are none. The patch applied without failures, only some hunks are 
mentioned. But this new mutt showed the same behaviour like the old one.


So if there are no problems with the amd64 architecture, I don’t know any 
other reason, what it could be.


Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

> On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:18:12PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
>> Switch to the pager and type:
>>
>> / ~s ANT 
>>
>> Which messages does mutt find?
>
> In my main folder it finds the message I wanted to colour and in the debian 
> folder (the folder with my two examples) it finds a message with IMPORTANT 
> in the subject, but not the two messages that were coloured.

It seems, that your indexcolor patch didn't applied corect.

Elimar

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:05:13PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

How did you compile your mutt version?


The debian way, I downloaded mutt-15.17 (debian/unstable) and from your 
site. I copied the er-patches directory from your source to the debian 
source, corrected the series file and did „debian/rules build” 
„debian/rules binary”.


Additional to your patches I have the debian patches for chdir and 
w3mface applied.


Shade and sweet water!

Stephan

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:18:12PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

Switch to the pager and type:

/ ~s ANT 

Which messages does mutt find?


In my main folder it finds the message I wanted to colour and in the 
debian folder (the folder with my two examples) it finds a message with 
IMPORTANT in the subject, but not the two messages that were coloured.



Shade and sweet water!

Huuu, now I need sun and some Tequilla sunrise!


You can let your mind radiate.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

> On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:03:17PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
>> color index_subject brightred black '~s ANT'
>> Works for sure ;)
>
> Well, in some ways it works, but as expected. This rule colours the 
> following subjects:
>
> [OT] Scripting question: the length limit of a list?
> and
> [SECURITY] [DSA 1400-1] New perl packages fix arbitrary code execution
>
> Now the big question, why.

Switch to the pager and type:

/ ~s ANT 

Which messages does mutt find?

> Shade and sweet water!

Huuu, now I need sun and some Tequilla sunrise!

Elimar


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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:03:17PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

color index_subject brightred black '~s ANT'
Works for sure ;)


Well, in some ways it works, but as expected. This rule colours the 
following subjects:


[OT] Scripting question: the length limit of a list?
and
[SECURITY] [DSA 1400-1] New perl packages fix arbitrary code execution

Now the big question, why.

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

> On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:23:02PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
>> Your mutt isn't patched with the indexcolor patch! You noticed that
>> my examples are for use with indexcolor?
>
> mutt -v shows patch-1.5.13.greek0.indexcolor-3+cb. Every index_* functions 
> are working besides those needing regex expressions.

How did you compile your mutt version?

Elimar

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:23:02PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

Your mutt isn't patched with the indexcolor patch! You noticed that
my examples are for use with indexcolor?


mutt -v shows patch-1.5.13.greek0.indexcolor-3+cb. Every index_* 
functions are working besides those needing regex expressions.


Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

> On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:03:17PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
>> color index_subject brightred black '~s ANT'
>> Works for sure ;)
>
> Not here.
> And I made sure, that this was the only color command I had in my muttrc.

Your mutt isn't patched with the indexcolor patch! You noticed that
my examples are for use with indexcolor?

Elimar

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:03:17PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

color index_subject brightred black '~s ANT'
Works for sure ;)


Not here.
And I made sure, that this was the only color command I had in my muttrc.

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

[...]
> color index_subject brightred black "~s ANT"
> does not colour mails having ANT in there subjects.

color index_subject brightred black '~s ANT'

Works for sure ;)

>
>> BTW: Try
>> $ HOWTO='pack c5,41*2,sqrt 7056,unpack(c,H)-2,oct 115' && perl -le "print 
>> $HOWTO"
>
> Well, first there has to be a FM with examples, second those examples must 
> work. ;-)
>
> Shade and sweet water!

First close your curtains.
Second: take a big sip of seet water.
Third: You know

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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 05:15:50PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

color index_author brightwhite default !~N
color index_author brightred default ~N
color index_author red brightyellow ~F
color index_author cyan default '~r >5d'
color index_author green default '~r >10d'
color index_author brightyellow red ~D


None of those above are working here.


color index_subject brightwhite default !~N


Your index_subject examples are working, but I want something like „if 
subject contains , colour it”.

My test
color index_subject brightred black "~s ANT"
does not colour mails having ANT in there subjects.


BTW: Try
$ HOWTO='pack c5,41*2,sqrt 7056,unpack(c,H)-2,oct 115' && perl -le "print 
$HOWTO"


Well, first there has to be a FM with examples, second those examples 
must work. ;-)


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Re: Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 the mental interface of
Stephan Seitz told:

> Hi!
>
> I'm using mutt 1.5.17 together with the sidebar patch. Now I'm wondering
> how to user index_author and index_subject.
> The command "color index_subject red black ." will colour all subject lines,
> but if I exchange "." with another expression, nothing happens.
> And I don't get any results with index_author.
>
> Are there some people using these features?

My setting for the sidebar colors:

color sidebar_new brightyellow default
color sidebar brightgreen red

My settings to use the indexcolor patch:

color index_author brightwhite default !~N
color index_author brightred default ~N
color index_author red brightyellow ~F
color index_author cyan default '~r >5d'
color index_author green default '~r >10d'
color index_author brightyellow red ~D
color index_subject brightwhite default !~N
color index_subject brightred default ~N
color index_subject red brightyellow ~F
color index_subject cyan default '~r >5d'
color index_subject green default '~r >10d'
color index_subject brightyellow red ~D
color index_collapsed brightyellow default
color index_number blue default
color index_flags brightyellow default
color index_date magenta default
color index_size brightyellow default
color index_label brightyellow default

BTW: Try
$ HOWTO='pack c5,41*2,sqrt 7056,unpack(c,H)-2,oct 115' && perl -le "print 
$HOWTO"

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Mutt 1.5.17 and sidebar patch

2007-11-11 Thread Stephan Seitz

Hi!

I'm using mutt 1.5.17 together with the sidebar patch. Now I'm wondering how to 
user index_author and index_subject.

The command "color index_subject red black ." will colour all subject lines,
but if I exchange "." with another expression, nothing happens.
And I don't get any results with index_author.

Are there some people using these features?

By the way, the sidebar patch breaks the maildir_mtime patch. Has by chance 
anyone ported the maildir_mtime patch so it can be applied to the mutt sources 
with sidebar patch?


Shade and sweet water!

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Re: Return does not work with sidebar patch

2007-10-09 Thread Andreas Leppert
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On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 04:33:34PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > Is there a tool which tells me the characters of keystrokes? 
> > xev does not work for key combinations. 
> 
> Yes, there is such a tool built into mutt.  From the index, type
> 
>:exec what-key
> 
> and hit enter.
I've never heard of that one - are there other built-in programs in mutt
which can be invoked using :exec? I've found nothing on the web / man
page.

> I just tried this and it seems a little broken.  The following keys,
> 
>
>Ctrl-J
>Ctrl-M
> 
> are all displayed as
> 
>Char = , Octal = 12, Decimal = 10
Same thing here. Ctrl-M should be something with Decimal value 14. Does
anybody know why Ctrl-M (Carriage Return) is the same as Ctrl-J (Line
Feed / Newline)? Perhaps it has something to do with portability between
Linux, Windows and Mac computers? 

> Getting back to the subject of overlapping keys, applications that 
> are designed to accept input from a terminal, as mutt is, accept 
> only sequences of 7-bit or 8-bit characters because that's all the 
> original terminals supported.   
I've understood this and the in-depth explanation in your other mail, at
least I believe so. But mutt is able to use the Unicode character set for
displaying. So, input has to be sequences of 7-bit / 8-bit characters,
output can be the whole unicode character set? 

Regards,
Andreas

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Re: Return does not work with sidebar patch

2007-10-09 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-10-09, Andreas Leppert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:36:30PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > Since you didn't elaborate on what you mean by "return" except that 
> > it is not the same as "enter", I assume that you mean an ASCII 
> > carriage return, 0x0D.  That is the same character as Ctrl-J. 
> 
> Well, I did not know that Ctrl-J is the same character as "Return" /
> 0x0D, now it makes sense why mutt is behaving as I've described it. 
> 
> Are there other mappings which overrides standards keys? I mean Ctrl-J
> is overlapping with , are there others?

I'm sorry--I got distracted and didn't really answer this question 
except by reference to "man ascii".

Here are the Ctrl equivalents of some common keys.

   HexControl
   Value  Character   Abbrev.   Name
   -  -    
   07 Ctrl-G BEL   Bell
   08 Ctrl-H BSBackspace
   09 Ctrl-I HTHorizontal Tab
   0A Ctrl-J LF or NL  Line Feed or Newline
   0C Ctrl-L FFForm Feed or Newpage
   0D Ctrl-M CRCarriage Return
   1B Ctrl-[ ESC   Escape

As I wrote previously, the control codes are not really overriding 
the other keys--they are synonyms for the same character.  GUI 
applications often have the ability to distinguish, say the Tab key 
from the key combination Ctrl-I, but terminal applications don't 
have this ability.  Terminal application see characters rather than 
keys. 

I hope that was a little clearer.

Regards,
Gary


Re: Return does not work with sidebar patch

2007-10-08 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-10-09, Andreas Leppert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:36:30PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > Since you didn't elaborate on what you mean by "return" except that 
> > it is not the same as "enter", I assume that you mean an ASCII 
> > carriage return, 0x0D.  That is the same character as Ctrl-J. 
> 
> Well, I did not know that Ctrl-J is the same character as "Return" /
> 0x0D, now it makes sense why mutt is behaving as I've described it. 
> 
> Are there other mappings which overrides standards keys? I mean Ctrl-J
> is overlapping with , are there others?

>From the standpoint of an application running in a terminal, Ctrl-J 
is identical to Carriage Return--those are two names for the same 
character.  You can get a table of the names of all the ASCII 
character codes on a Unix system by executing

   man ascii

You might find more meaningful names, spelled out, by Googling for 
ASCII.

> Is there a tool which tells me the characters of keystrokes? 
> xev does not work for key combinations. 

Yes, there is such a tool built into mutt.  From the index, type

   :exec what-key

and hit enter.

I just tried this and it seems a little broken.  The following keys,

   
   Ctrl-J
   Ctrl-M

are all displayed as

   Char = , Octal = 12, Decimal = 10

Getting back to the subject of overlapping keys, applications that 
are designed to accept input from a terminal, as mutt is, accept 
only sequences of 7-bit or 8-bit characters because that's all the 
original terminals supported.  Applications that are designed to run 
in a GUI often have access to the raw key codes generated by the 
keyboard, so they can distinguish the left Ctrl key from the right 
Ctrl key and can detect combinations such as Shift-Tab which don't 
exist in ASCII.  This causes a lot of confusion among newcomers who 
don't understand why they can use all sorts of key combinations in a 
GUI program but can't use those combinations in program running in a 
terminal.

> I've changed my sidebar settings to the standard values, now everything
> is good. Thanks Gary!

You're welcome.

Regards,
Gary


Re: Return does not work with sidebar patch

2007-10-08 Thread Andreas Leppert
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 02:36:30PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
> Since you didn't elaborate on what you mean by "return" except that 
> it is not the same as "enter", I assume that you mean an ASCII 
> carriage return, 0x0D.  That is the same character as Ctrl-J. 

Well, I did not know that Ctrl-J is the same character as "Return" /
0x0D, now it makes sense why mutt is behaving as I've described it. 

Are there other mappings which overrides standards keys? I mean Ctrl-J
is overlapping with , are there others? Is there a tool which
tells me the characters of keystrokes? xev does not work for key
combinations. 

I've changed my sidebar settings to the standard values, now everything
is good. Thanks Gary!

Greetings,
Andreas

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Re: Return does not work with sidebar patch

2007-10-08 Thread tannhauser
Hello,

i use the sidebar patch in gentoo without a problem (1.5.16, Useflags:
berkdb crypt -debug gdbm gnutls -gpgme -idn -imap -mbox nls -nntp -pop
-qdbm -sasl sidebar smime -smtp ssl -vanilla).

I changed the bindings for better use to this:
bind index \ca sidebar-prev 
bind index \cy sidebar-next
bind index \cx sidebar-open
bind pager \ca sidebar-prev
bind pager \cy sidebar-next
bind pager \cx sidebar-open

Only real difference is that you use \C and i \c, but i don't know if
that's of any importance. I would try the gentoo forum, it's excellent. 


Re: Return does not work with sidebar patch

2007-10-08 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-10-08, Andreas Leppert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello mutt users,
> 
> my first post to the list.
> 
> Since I've read about the sidebar USE-flag (Gentoo) in this mailing
> list, I've given it a try and it works almost perfect, only one thing is
> annoying me:
> 
> I can no longer use return to open mails or scroll down mails, instead,
> the next entry in the sidebar is marked. Please notice that I mean
> return, and not the enter key. With enter, it always works.
> 
> This only happens when the sidebar-next bindings are active! Here is my
> configuration with regard to the sidebar patch:
> 
> --- snip ---
> 
> set sidebar_visible="yes"
> set sidebar_width=40
> set sidebar_delim=" |  "
> 
> color sidebar_new yellow default
> 
> bind index \Ck sidebar-prev
> bind index \Cj sidebar-next
> bind index \Co sidebar-open
> bind pager \Ck sidebar-prev
> bind pager \Cj sidebar-next
> bind pager \Co sidebar-open
> 
> macro index B ':toggle sidebar_visible'
> macro pager B ':toggle sidebar_visible'
> 
> --- snap ---
> 
> Again: if I comment out the two sidebar-next bindings, I can use return
> to open mails.

Since you didn't elaborate on what you mean by "return" except that 
it is not the same as "enter", I assume that you mean an ASCII 
carriage return, 0x0D.  That is the same character as Ctrl-J.  These 
two commands bind Ctrl-J to sidebar-next,

   bind index \Cj sidebar-next
   bind pager \Cj sidebar-next

Mutt is behaving exactly as you configured it to behave.  If you 
don't want that behavior, comment-out or delete those two lines.

Regards,
Gary


Return does not work with sidebar patch

2007-10-08 Thread Andreas Leppert
Hello mutt users,

my first post to the list.

Since I've read about the sidebar USE-flag (Gentoo) in this mailing
list, I've given it a try and it works almost perfect, only one thing is
annoying me:

I can no longer use return to open mails or scroll down mails, instead,
the next entry in the sidebar is marked. Please notice that I mean
return, and not the enter key. With enter, it always works.

This only happens when the sidebar-next bindings are active! Here is my
configuration with regard to the sidebar patch:

--- snip ---

set sidebar_visible="yes"
set sidebar_width=40
set sidebar_delim=" |  "

color sidebar_new yellow default

bind index \Ck sidebar-prev
bind index \Cj sidebar-next
bind index \Co sidebar-open
bind pager \Ck sidebar-prev
bind pager \Cj sidebar-next
bind pager \Co sidebar-open

macro index B ':toggle sidebar_visible'
macro pager B ':toggle sidebar_visible'

--- snap ---

Again: if I comment out the two sidebar-next bindings, I can use return
to open mails.

Is this a bug, does anyone know a solution to it?

Thanks in advance
Andreas


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Re: sidebar patch

2007-09-26 Thread Brendan Cully
On Tuesday, 25 September 2007 at 21:48, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 25 at 04:54 PM, quoth Joseph:
> >I've seen an interesting sidebar patch for mutt, though it was just that
> >"a patch"  is not new and was never implemented.
> >I am just curious as to the reason why it was never implemented.  
> 
> Eh? It *was* implemented - that patch is the implementation.
> 
> If you're asking why it was never added to the mainstream mutt, the 
> answer is a contentious one, but one which can be found by searching 
> the mutt mailing list archives. It was deemed "froofy" by one of the 
> main mutt developers 
> (http://marc.info/?l=mutt-dev&m=112118911225394&w=2), and heavily 
> broken by one of the others 
> (http://marc.info/?l=mutt-dev&m=112133798519807&w=2).

I'm not actually against the idea any more -- just the
implementation.


Re: sidebar patch

2007-09-25 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Tuesday, September 25 at 04:54 PM, quoth Joseph:
>I've seen an interesting sidebar patch for mutt, though it was just that
>"a patch"  is not new and was never implemented.
>I am just curious as to the reason why it was never implemented.  

Eh? It *was* implemented - that patch is the implementation.

If you're asking why it was never added to the mainstream mutt, the 
answer is a contentious one, but one which can be found by searching 
the mutt mailing list archives. It was deemed "froofy" by one of the 
main mutt developers 
(http://marc.info/?l=mutt-dev&m=112118911225394&w=2), and heavily 
broken by one of the others 
(http://marc.info/?l=mutt-dev&m=112133798519807&w=2).

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sidebar patch

2007-09-25 Thread Joseph
I've seen an interesting sidebar patch for mutt, though it was just that
"a patch"  is not new and was never implemented.
I am just curious as to the reason why it was never implemented.  

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Re: sidebar patch for mutt 1.5.16?

2007-07-02 Thread Oliver Peter
On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 10:11:13AM -0400, Raffi Khatchadourian wrote:
> Does anyone have a working sidebar patch for mutt 1.15.16? The latest
> posted on the sidebar website is for 1.15.15.

I used Terry's excellent patch for 1.5.15 to write a new one for
1.5.16.  You can find it at
http://vader.homeunix.org/~hoschi/src/mutt-devel/mutt-1.5.16.sidebar.20070702.patch

It works fine for me with imap-ssl/hcache.

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Re: sidebar patch for mutt 1.5.16?

2007-07-02 Thread Oliver Peter
On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 10:11:13AM -0400, Raffi Khatchadourian wrote:
> Does anyone have a working sidebar patch for mutt 1.15.16? The latest
> posted on the sidebar website is for 1.15.15.

I wrote an e-mail to the (Terry P. Chan / [EMAIL PROTECTED])
current maintainer of the patch for the previous mutt-devel version.
Since this is a lot of work I'm sure that he will take any help that
he can get.
In the meantime I tried to patch the current version with the last
patch - display of the folders and navigation works.  It seems that it
should not be a big problem to port this to the new mutt-devel
version.

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sidebar patch for mutt 1.5.16?

2007-07-01 Thread Raffi Khatchadourian

Does anyone have a working sidebar patch for mutt 1.15.16? The latest
posted on the sidebar website is for 1.15.15.