Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-13 Thread Heikki Tuuri

Curtis,

the reason why innodb.com was unreachable for some time on Friday was 
that Oracle web administrators moved the DNS records to an Oracle domain 
server. The registrar of innodb.com is Tucows, and I believe the admins 
made some error which caused Tucows to set renewyourname.net as the 
domain server, which made innodb.com to show as a Google search page. I 
am sorry for the inconvenience this caused for InnoDB users.


Concerning the MySQL AB - Innobase Oy OEM contract, it was renewed in 
spring 2006.


Best regards,

Heikki
Oracle Corp./Innobase Oy
InnoDB - transactions, row level locking, and foreign keys for MySQL
InnoDB Hot Backup - a hot backup tool for InnoDB which also backs up 
MyISAM tables

http://www.innodb.com/order.php

.

My guess is that its intentional.  Oracle is who they are and MySQL is
eating their lunch.  I look for them to kill the product to try to drive
MySQL out of business or make life difficult for them; hence the reason
they're working on a new storage engine of their own.  They tried to buy
MySQL, but when they couldn't they bought up the two pieces of software
that gave MySQL ACID transactions (innodb and Berkely (sp?)).  They will
renegotiate the contract, but make it very expensive for MySQL to license.
 You don't honestly think Oracle is going to be honest about this do you?
They have absolutely no interest in helping MySQL survive.

Sounds pretty fishy to me no matter what they're saying publicly.

Curtis

Bill MacAllister wrote:
>
>
> --On Friday, November 10, 2006 08:46:50 AM -0500 Curtis Maurand
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.oracle.com/innodb/index.html
>
> Please quit telling us that Oracle purchased Innodb.  That is ancient
> news.
> The innodb.com web site had innodb content on it in the past, Heikki
> signature makes me think that it still should, and it doesn't now.  That
> is
> the issue that I raised.  I am guessing, given Reimer's insight, that the
> domain name registration has expired and someone needs to renew it.  I
> hope
> they plan to do that because I found the site useful.
>
> Bill
>
>> Riemer Palstra wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:26:52AM -0800, Bill MacAllister wrote:
 What happened to the Innodb web pages?  What comes up for be is a
 search page with a bunch of related links on it.  I wanted to pull
 down a copy of ibbackup documentation and it isn't there anymore.
>>>
>>> Strange indeed, I get the search pages that Tucows/OpenSRS put up when
>>> they park a domain as soon as a customer lets their domain name
>>> expire...
>>>
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Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-10 Thread Curtis Maurand

I just checked it again and its working.

Francesco Riosa wrote:
> Heikki Tuuri ha scritto:
>> Bill,
>>
>> we are moving the DNS of innodb.com from Capnova to Oracle Corp.
>>
>> I can now view http://www.innodb.com through my ISP, Elisa. Does
>> anyone still have problems accessing http://www.innodb.com?
>>
>> If you cannot see some web page, you can resort to Google's cache to
>> view it. I hope that we will not get more disruption of service this
>> weekend.
>>
>> Best regards,
> This is the answer from ibm nameservers i.e. none:
> ##-
> dig www.innodb.com @ns.almaden.ibm.com.
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> www.innodb.com @ns.almaden.ibm.com.
> ; (1 server found)
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33840
> ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.innodb.com.IN  A
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> com.172552  IN  NS  i.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  j.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  k.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  l.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  m.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  a.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  b.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  c.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  d.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  e.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  f.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  g.gtld-servers.net.
> com.172552  IN  NS  h.gtld-servers.net.
>
> ;; Query time: 188 msec
> ;; SERVER: 198.4.83.35#53(198.4.83.35)
> ;; WHEN: Fri Nov 10 13:04:51 2006
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 256
>
> ##-
>
> This is a query to the internet:
>
> ##-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] dbdesigner 1 $ dig www.innodb.com
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> www.innodb.com
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 3995
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.innodb.com.IN  A
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.innodb.com. 80775   IN  A   216.40.33.31
>
> ;; Query time: 24 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.4.1#53(192.168.4.1)
> ;; WHEN: Fri Nov 10 13:03:11 2006
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 48
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] dbdesigner 0 $ dig -x 216.40.33.31
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> -x 216.40.33.31
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33913
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 1
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;31.33.40.216.in-addr.arpa. IN  PTR
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> 31.33.40.216.in-addr.arpa. 1200 IN  PTR www.renewyourname.net.
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> 33.40.216.in-addr.arpa. 1200IN  NS  dns1.tucows.com.
> 33.40.216.in-addr.arpa. 1200IN  NS  dns2.tucows.com.
> 33.40.216.in-addr.arpa. 1200IN  NS  dns3.tucows.com.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> dns3.tucows.com.172051  IN  A   204.50.180.59
>
> ;; Query time: 263 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.4.1#53(192.168.4.1)
> ;; WHEN: Fri Nov 10 13:03:19 2006
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 161
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] dbdesigner 0 $
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Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-10 Thread Curtis Maurand

My guess is that its intentional.  Oracle is who they are and MySQL is
eating their lunch.  I look for them to kill the product to try to drive
MySQL out of business or make life difficult for them; hence the reason
they're working on a new storage engine of their own.  They tried to buy
MySQL, but when they couldn't they bought up the two pieces of software
that gave MySQL ACID transactions (innodb and Berkely (sp?)).  They will
renegotiate the contract, but make it very expensive for MySQL to license.
 You don't honestly think Oracle is going to be honest about this do you? 
They have absolutely no interest in helping MySQL survive.

Sounds pretty fishy to me no matter what they're saying publicly.

Curtis

Bill MacAllister wrote:
>
>
> --On Friday, November 10, 2006 08:46:50 AM -0500 Curtis Maurand
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://www.oracle.com/innodb/index.html
>
> Please quit telling us that Oracle purchased Innodb.  That is ancient
> news.
> The innodb.com web site had innodb content on it in the past, Heikki
> signature makes me think that it still should, and it doesn't now.  That
> is
> the issue that I raised.  I am guessing, given Reimer's insight, that the
> domain name registration has expired and someone needs to renew it.  I
> hope
> they plan to do that because I found the site useful.
>
> Bill
>
>> Riemer Palstra wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:26:52AM -0800, Bill MacAllister wrote:
 What happened to the Innodb web pages?  What comes up for be is a
 search page with a bunch of related links on it.  I wanted to pull
 down a copy of ibbackup documentation and it isn't there anymore.
>>>
>>> Strange indeed, I get the search pages that Tucows/OpenSRS put up when
>>> they park a domain as soon as a customer lets their domain name
>>> expire...
>>>
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.palstra.com/
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Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-10 Thread Bill MacAllister



--On Friday, November 10, 2006 08:46:50 AM -0500 Curtis Maurand 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




http://www.oracle.com/innodb/index.html


Please quit telling us that Oracle purchased Innodb.  That is ancient news. 
The innodb.com web site had innodb content on it in the past, Heikki 
signature makes me think that it still should, and it doesn't now.  That is 
the issue that I raised.  I am guessing, given Reimer's insight, that the 
domain name registration has expired and someone needs to renew it.  I hope 
they plan to do that because I found the site useful.


Bill


Riemer Palstra wrote:

On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:26:52AM -0800, Bill MacAllister wrote:

What happened to the Innodb web pages?  What comes up for be is a
search page with a bunch of related links on it.  I wanted to pull
down a copy of ibbackup documentation and it isn't there anymore.


Strange indeed, I get the search pages that Tucows/OpenSRS put up when
they park a domain as soon as a customer lets their domain name
expire...

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Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-10 Thread Curtis Maurand

http://www.oracle.com/innodb/index.html

Riemer Palstra wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:26:52AM -0800, Bill MacAllister wrote:
>> What happened to the Innodb web pages?  What comes up for be is a
>> search page with a bunch of related links on it.  I wanted to pull
>> down a copy of ibbackup documentation and it isn't there anymore.
>
> Strange indeed, I get the search pages that Tucows/OpenSRS put up when
> they park a domain as soon as a customer lets their domain name
> expire...
>
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.palstra.com/
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RE: www.innodb.com

2006-11-10 Thread J.R. Bullington

Depending on when Heikki and the InnoDB team moved the DNS 
records, it could take between 24 and 48 hours to propogate throughout the 
entire internet.

I also see the cyber-squatter page, but I am sure that this will resolve itself 
shortly.

J.R.



From: "George Law" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 7:50 AM
To: "Heikki Tuuri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Subject: RE: www.innodb.com 

I'm seeing: 



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Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-10 Thread Francesco Riosa
Heikki Tuuri ha scritto:
> Bill,
>
> we are moving the DNS of innodb.com from Capnova to Oracle Corp.
>
> I can now view http://www.innodb.com through my ISP, Elisa. Does
> anyone still have problems accessing http://www.innodb.com?
>
> If you cannot see some web page, you can resort to Google's cache to
> view it. I hope that we will not get more disruption of service this
> weekend.
>
> Best regards,
This is the answer from ibm nameservers i.e. none:
##-
dig www.innodb.com @ns.almaden.ibm.com.

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> www.innodb.com @ns.almaden.ibm.com.
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33840
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.innodb.com.IN  A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
com.172552  IN  NS  i.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  j.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  k.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  l.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  m.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  a.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  b.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  c.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  d.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  e.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  f.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  g.gtld-servers.net.
com.172552  IN  NS  h.gtld-servers.net.

;; Query time: 188 msec
;; SERVER: 198.4.83.35#53(198.4.83.35)
;; WHEN: Fri Nov 10 13:04:51 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 256

##-

This is a query to the internet:

##-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dbdesigner 1 $ dig www.innodb.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> www.innodb.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 3995
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.innodb.com.IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.innodb.com. 80775   IN  A   216.40.33.31

;; Query time: 24 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.4.1#53(192.168.4.1)
;; WHEN: Fri Nov 10 13:03:11 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 48

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dbdesigner 0 $ dig -x 216.40.33.31

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> -x 216.40.33.31
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33913
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;31.33.40.216.in-addr.arpa. IN  PTR

;; ANSWER SECTION:
31.33.40.216.in-addr.arpa. 1200 IN  PTR www.renewyourname.net.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
33.40.216.in-addr.arpa. 1200IN  NS  dns1.tucows.com.
33.40.216.in-addr.arpa. 1200IN  NS  dns2.tucows.com.
33.40.216.in-addr.arpa. 1200IN  NS  dns3.tucows.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns3.tucows.com.172051  IN  A   204.50.180.59

;; Query time: 263 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.4.1#53(192.168.4.1)
;; WHEN: Fri Nov 10 13:03:19 2006
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 161

[EMAIL PROTECTED] dbdesigner 0 $


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RE: www.innodb.com

2006-11-10 Thread George Law



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>-Original Message->From: Heikki Tuuri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]>Sent: 
Friday, November 10, 2006 7:43 AM>To: 
mysql@lists.mysql.com>Subject: Re: 
www.innodb.com>>Bill,>>we are moving the DNS of 
innodb.com from Capnova to Oracle Corp.>>I can now view http://www.innodb.com through my ISP, 
Elisa.>Does anyone>still have problems accessing http://www.innodb.com?>>If you 
cannot see some web page, you can resort to Google's cache to>view it. I 
hope that we will not get more disruption of service 
this>weekend.>>Best 
regards,>>Heikki>Oracle Corp./Innobase Oy>InnoDB - 
transactions, row level locking, and foreign keys for MySQL>InnoDB Hot 
Backup - a hot backup tool for InnoDB which also backs up>MyISAM 
tables>http://www.innodb.com/order.php>>>>What 
happened to the Innodb web pages?  What comes up for be>is a 
search>page with a bunch of related links on it.  I wanted to 
pull>down a copy of>ibbackup documentation and it isn't there 
anymore.>>Bill>>+--->| 
Bill MacAllister, Senior Programmer>| 10030 Foothills Blvd>| 
Roseville, CA 95747>>-->MySQL General Mailing 
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Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-10 Thread Heikki Tuuri

Bill,

we are moving the DNS of innodb.com from Capnova to Oracle Corp.

I can now view http://www.innodb.com through my ISP, Elisa. Does anyone 
still have problems accessing http://www.innodb.com?


If you cannot see some web page, you can resort to Google's cache to 
view it. I hope that we will not get more disruption of service this 
weekend.


Best regards,

Heikki
Oracle Corp./Innobase Oy
InnoDB - transactions, row level locking, and foreign keys for MySQL
InnoDB Hot Backup - a hot backup tool for InnoDB which also backs up 
MyISAM tables

http://www.innodb.com/order.php



What happened to the Innodb web pages?  What comes up for be is a search
page with a bunch of related links on it.  I wanted to pull down a copy of
ibbackup documentation and it isn't there anymore.

Bill

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Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-09 Thread Riemer Palstra
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:26:52AM -0800, Bill MacAllister wrote:
> What happened to the Innodb web pages?  What comes up for be is a
> search page with a bunch of related links on it.  I wanted to pull
> down a copy of ibbackup documentation and it isn't there anymore.

Strange indeed, I get the search pages that Tucows/OpenSRS put up when
they park a domain as soon as a customer lets their domain name
expire...

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Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-09 Thread Bill MacAllister



--On Thursday, November 09, 2006 08:37:01 PM +0200 Onur 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Bill MacAllister wrote:

What happened to the Innodb web pages?  What comes up for be is a
search page with a bunch of related links on it.  I wanted to pull
down a copy of ibbackup documentation and it isn't there anymore.




Hi,

Maybe domain name down.

Best Regards,
Onur Yerlikaya
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


No the domain is not down.  At least the DNS answers up with an IP address 
and there is a web page that is displayed innodb/mysql type links.



Perhaps they are at Oracle now?

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I suppose this might be so, but here is the signature from a message from 
Heikki earlier today.



Heikki
Oracle Corp./Innobase Oy
InnoDB - transactions, row level locking, and foreign keys for MySQL
InnoDB Hot Backup - a hot backup tool for InnoDB which also backs up
MyISAM tables
http://www.innodb.com/order.php


You will have trouble ordering anything from the web page that comes up.

Bill

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Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-09 Thread Onur

Bill MacAllister wrote:
What happened to the Innodb web pages?  What comes up for be is a 
search page with a bunch of related links on it.  I wanted to pull 
down a copy of ibbackup documentation and it isn't there anymore.


Bill

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Hi,

Maybe domain name down.

Best Regards,
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Re: www.innodb.com

2006-11-09 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Em Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:26:52 -0800, Bill MacAllister escreveu:

> What happened to the Innodb web pages?  What comes up for be is a search
> page with a bunch of related links on it.  I wanted to pull down a copy of
> ibbackup documentation and it isn't there anymore.

Perhaps they are at Oracle now?

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