Re: [newbie] Help me out [OT]
If we are not supposed to eat animals, then why are they made out of meat??? I eat Vegetarians for breakfast!!! Wade - Original Message - From: Harv Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Help me out [OT] Michael Scottaline wrote: On 24 Jul 2003 10:24:26 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted: On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 04:16, Gene Barker wrote: Hi Harv, I'm not a vegetarian but I do eat most of them except the A veggies. Thanks for the welcome Gene Barker I hate eating vegetables. They just lay there. === I think you Aussies have an old saying: Vegetables? Oh..., that's what food eats! Mike Vegetarian (n) - An old American Indian (Ojibwa) word, usually translated as poor hunter. Harv Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Compiling Drivers from CVS(was installing new hardware)
I have determined that I probably need an up to date version of the pegasus driver on my system. I have downloaded the header file off the CVS on the internet. I would like toadd the new version of the driver to my system. I am guessing that this requires me to compile it since I can not seem to find any other versions. Can someone explain how I go about doing this and what will I need to do it? Wade Continuing from the conversation below - Thanks for identifying the driver source bascule.If you look at the latest source code for the driver http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/pegasus2/pegasus/pegasus.hyou can see the Microsoft adapter was added to the source 4 weeks and 5 days ago.From the latest source we can seeVENDOR_MICROSOFT 0x045ePEGASUS_DEV( "Microsoft MN-110", VENDOR_MICROSOFT, 0x007a,DEFAULT_GPIO_RESET | PEGASUS_II )Adding the linepegasus 0x0003 0x045e 0x007a 0x 0x 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x(That is all one line) to /etc/hotplug/usb.handmap should cause the driver to be loaded whenever the USB adapter is plugged in.If that does not work then you may have to compile the driver from CVS which is quite a lot more work for a newbie.derekOn Friday 11 Jul 2003 7:31 am, bascule wrote: wade, well seeing as how it's a microsoft piece of kit i'd guess that the odds of them realeasing drivers are vanishingly small, however according to: http://www.linux-usb.org/devices.html under 'network adapters' the top two entries looks promising, you will need to know what speed usb port you have, note the second entry seems to imply that you need a later kernel it's also not obvious what the actual driver names are from the devices listed there :) however assuming that a)the pegasus driver is what you want b) you have your usb system up and running then hopefully #modprobe pegasus (note done as root) will load the driver, if not you could try some of the other drivers listed under /lib/modules/2./kernel/drivers/usb/ use #modinfo modulename to see what sort of driver it is now the next bit i could be wrong! :) assuming the driver is correct then you will need to set up an interface using that device, assuming you haven't any already then i think you may be talking 'usb0' from something i read online if you do: # ifconfig -a you should hopefully see a refernce to usb0 or indeed to a net interface that didn't use to be there, if so then you need to set it up, i believe you will need to create a file under /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ called ifcgf-usb0 (assuming usb0 is the interface name) that has something like: BOOTPROTO=static BROADCAST=192.168.129.255 IPADDR=192.168.129.1 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.129.0 DEVICE=usb0 this assumes a static ip for the interface, you will have to adjust accordingly or DEVICE=usb0 USERCTL=no > BOOTPROTO=dhcp IPADDR= NETMASK= NETWORK=0.0.0.0 BROADCAST=255.255.255.255 DHCP_CLIENT=/sbin/dhcpcd for a dhcp assigned ip i ripped that from my dhcp assigned interface on my mandrake firewall so i figure it should be the right format, not you would have to have /sbin/dhcpcd on your system then you should be able to do #ifup usb0 and if it works #ifconfig should show it up and running then you would need to add your pegasus module (or whatever it turns out to be) to your start up files, that would either be /etc/modules with a line: pegasus or /etc/modules.conf with a line: alias usb0 pegasus i'm not sure if both would work and if so which is better form for how wrong i am with this advice wait for others to comment! :) bascule On Friday 11 Jul 2003 3:24 am, Wade Waldron wrote: Microsoft MN-110 USB ethernet adapter. Wade - Original Message - From: "Carroll Grigsby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing new hardwareOn Thursday 10 July 2003 08:15 pm, Wade Waldron wrote:Okay, maybe some more background is needed. When I run the mandrake configuration utility, and look under the listed hardware I have a few unknown devices (like my network adapter). I have looked aroundand found that my network adapter probably uses the pegasus driver. I wouldlike--
Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware
Okay, maybe some more background is needed. When I run the mandrake configuration utility, and look under the listed hardware I have a few unknown devices (like my network adapter). I have looked around and found that my network adapter probably uses the pegasus driver. I would like to set it up to use that driver to see if that will work. I can not see anywhere in the Configuration utility that allows me to assign a driver to a device. When I highlight the device, there are no options buttons or configuration buttons that show up. When I right or left click I get nothing. On the Right hand side it shows that there is no module loaded for that device so I try clicking there and nothing happens. None of the menus have any optionsthat suggest I can do that. I ran the networking wizard, but nothing there seemed to help becauseit can't seem to find my network adapter (presumably because it is an unknown device) besides, that won't help with my other devices like my CD-RW. There must be a way to manually assign a driver to a device, but for the life of me, I can not seem to find it. Thanks, Wade - Original Message - From: Wade Waldron To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: [newbie] Installing new hardware I would like to install hardware while bypassing the Mandrake configuration utility. Can someone give me an idea where to start. Basically the hardware is installed, I just need to make the system aware of it and set up the drivers. Wade
Re: [newbie] Need Drivers!
Okay, it would appear that the majority of 10/100 USB ethernet adapters are supported by the Pegasus driver. So I have run the networking wizard to try to set it up. It asks me if I want to autodetect and I chose yes. It does not appear to detect anything and asks me what type of connection I would like to set up. I chose Cable. It then asks me to select a driver. I chose pegasus. It then asks me if it should autoprobe, I chose yes. Finally is asks if there are any other devices I chose no. It then proceeds to say that it could not set up the connection because no network adapter was found. So I went back and when it asked me to chose the connection type I chose LAN. From here everything proceeded the same but when I got to the end, it did not say no network adapter was found, instead it just took me back to chosing a connection type. So am I doing something wrong, or is this the wrong driver or what? Wade - Original Message - From: Wade Waldron To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 5:28 PM Subject: [newbie] Need Drivers! I am trying to find a driver for a Microsoft MN-110 USB Ethernet Adapter. I am not really sure where to look. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Do drivers exist for this product (since it is Microsoft after all). Is there a suitable substitute for a driver? Wade
[newbie] Installing new hardware
I would like to install hardware while bypassing the Mandrake configuration utility. Can someone give me an idea where to start. Basically the hardware is installed, I just need to make the system aware of it and set up the drivers. Wade
Re: [newbie] Another Try
Thanks for the advice, I checked xfree.org and found out that my card is supported on xfree 3 and 4. This led me to make some different choices on installing. I can not honestly say what made the difference, but it works. I guess the morale of the story is that if you are stuck on a problem and have tried to fix it over and over, and nothing works, take a break and come back to it with a fresh mind. Thanks a bunch!!! Wade - Original Message - From: FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Another Try At 11:22 AM 7/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: Okay, I hate giving up. Back to my problem of errors when I try to run KDE or Gnome. Someone I was speaking to suggested it may be due to the fact that I have a laptop and they can have problems with configuration. So if anyone remembers the problems I was having, maybe they will know how to fix it if they know my hardware. I am working with a Compaq 12XL 323. It has an Intel Celeron 633 (although DXDIAG reports an Intel Pentium 633???). It originally came with 64 MB of Ram but I upgraded it to 128 MB. I have a 10 GB hard drive. I am using ~2GB of that to install Mandrake Linux 9.1. The video card is a Trident Cyberblade i1 AGP. It has shared video memory which is currently set to 8 MB. My sound card is a VIA Audio (Wave) card. My monitor has a resolution of 1024x768 (32 bit). Wade IIRC cyberblade isn't well supported tho you can look @ X-Free.org See for yourself if that is the case or not. I am going by memory. All things considered thats where I'd start looking for the cause of the problems. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Need Drivers!
I am trying to find a driver for a Microsoft MN-110 USB Ethernet Adapter. I am not really sure where to look. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Do drivers exist for this product (since it is Microsoft after all). Is there a suitable substitute for a driver? Wade
Re: [newbie] Need Drivers!
When I use the Mandrake configuration utility to set up a network configuration, there does not appear to be a listing for my Network Adapter. I have selected the wizard and have chosen a cable connection, since my internet connection is through the cable company. It then asks me which Network/main driver to use. From the list I do not see anything resembling my Adapter. I have tried google, but I don't seem to be getting anything. I keep getting sites which allow me to buy my network adapter or have video drivers for linux, or a bunch of other useless stuff. Is there a particular site that people find is generally useful? Wade - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Need Drivers! On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 09:28, Wade Waldron wrote: I am trying to find a driver for a Microsoft MN-110 USB Ethernet Adapter. I am not really sure where to look. Can anyone offer any suggestions? Do drivers exist for this product (since it is Microsoft after all). Is there a suitable substitute for a driver? Wade Are you sure the system hasn't already picked it up, but just not utilising it yet? Otherwise, GOOGLE can be your friend...along with heaps of linux driver sites... -- Wed Jul 9 10:05:00 EST 2003 10:05:00 up 2 days, 11:37, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.07, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * And the crowd was stilled. One elderly man, wondering at the sudden silence, turned to the Child and asked him to repeat what he had said. Wide-eyed, the Child raised his voice and said once again, Why, the Emperor has no clothes! He is naked! - The Emperor's New Clothes Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Thanks,
Well, thanks to everyones help in trying to solve my installation problems with Mandrake. Unfortunately, I have installed it 5-6 times now with all sorts of different settings and have come up empty. So at this point, I am either going to seek another distribution of Linux, or give up on it completely. If anyone has any suggestions for a good distribution for a beginner (Although I do have a BSc in Computer Science, so beginner might not be quite the right word) I would appreciate it. Wade
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
There is a swap partition of about 150 MB. I am running with 128 MB of ram. Wade - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome I would suggest running with standard security until you understand your system a lot better. On 'High' the Mandrake security system (msec) is going to make quite a lot of restrictions on you. Not being able to log in as root is just one of them. As I said 'Standard' is still pretty darn secure. This is out of date, but still interesting http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php You can switch between security levels from Mandrake Control Centre. Trouble is you need to have X working before you can see it. The command 'df' will tell you how much free space you have on your partitions. And finally. Did you create a swap partition? How big, and how much memory do you have? derek On Wednesday 25 Jun 2003 2:33 am, Wade Waldron wrote: I have selected Higher Security, since I am considering using my system as a web server at some point (after I have a much more indepth knowledge). The partition I am using is approximately 1.7GB in size. I did a very minimal install when I installed Linux. I installed the internet package, as well as both Gnome and KDE, but nothing else. I should have had at least 1GB of space left. Wade SNIP -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
I have selected Higher Security, since I am considering using my system as a web server at some point (after I have a much more indepth knowledge). The partition I am using is approximately 1.7GB in size. I did a very minimal install when I installed Linux. I installed the internet package, as well as both Gnome and KDE, but nothing else. I should have had at least 1GB of space left. Wade - Original Message - From: Derek Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome On Tuesday 24 Jun 2003 1:20 am, Wade Waldron wrote: I have tried to run both KDE and Gnome and get hung up on either. They start to load and then just stop and the system hangs. I have pressed Alt Ctrl F1 to get to a prompt. From here I pressed the windows key on my keyboard. This brings up a list of errors which are scrolling by so fast I can not read them. I have been able to make out part of the error. It says localhost xinetd [A seemingly random number] sgi fam PID [A process number I assume] from no address I can not tell what is here local host is not connected It also flashes warning: can't get client address although I can not tell where this fits in. Does anyone know what this error means and how I can stop it? I should note that the number for xinetd and PID both change each time the message flashes. It seems like the system gets hung up because it is trying to perform an operation but keeps failing so it tries again. Incidentally, someone suggested that I look in var/log/messages. I tried, but I can not access the file because I do not have permission. I tried to login as root, but that does not seem to work. The login prompt I am recieving is localhost login: when I enter root and the password it tells me incorrect login. I know the password is correct so am I also doing something wrong here? Please, any help would be very much appreciated. Wade When you installed did you select 'High Security' ? If so then console logins as root are not permitted. You can get around the issue by logging in as a normal user then entering su enter followed by root password. You will then become root user. ( If you have selected High Security, then it is really over the top for a desktop system. Standard Security is much more secure than any Windows System you have used.) As for your messages 'fam' is a process which checks to see if disc partitions are full. So I wonder if you have installed in a partition that is too small. (or have installed too much) HTH derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
Currently, my system is automatically configured to start XWindows when it boots. Before my current install I had tried to do it using just startx. I have not installed XTart to my knowledge. Wade - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 14:43, Wade Waldron wrote: Okay, some progress. I managed to login as root. I think I was just logging in at the wrong place. Checked /var/log/messages. From there I found out that the sequence of messages leading up to the error was: 1. Jun 23 18:09:07 localhost kde3 (pam_unix)[12697]: session opened for user root by (uid=0) 2. Jun 23 18:09:07 [22437]: warning: can't get client address: transport endpoint is not connected 3. Jun 23 19:09:07 localhost xinetd[22437]:libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from no address 4. Jun 23 18:09:07 localhostrc: stopping kheader succeeded The last 3 messages loop over and over with changes in the numbers but identical otherwise ( I tried to reproduce the messages as closely as possible, but they may vary slightly). These messages repeat until I reboot the system. Can any one decipher these and explain what is happening? I still curious on how exactly you try to start XWindows when you're logging in...have you installed XTart yet, or are you just using startx to start your XWindow session? -- Tue Jun 24 16:05:00 EST 2003 16:05:00 up 3 days, 1:15, 3 users, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Salut ca fart' Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
I have tried to run both KDE and Gnome and get hung up on either. They start to load and then just stop and the system hangs. I have pressed Alt Ctrl F1 to get to a prompt. From here I pressed the windows key on my keyboard. This brings up a list of errors which are scrolling by so fast I can not read them. I have been able to make out part of the error. It says "localhost xinetd [A seemingly random number] sgi fam PID [A process number I assume] from no address I can not tell what is here local host is not connected" It also flashes "warning: can't get client address" although I can not tell where this fits in. Does anyone know what this error means and how I can stop it? I should note that the number for xinetd and PID both change each time the message flashes. It seems like the system gets hung up because it is trying to perform an operation but keeps failing so it tries again. Incidentally, someone suggested that I look in var/log/messages. I tried, but I can not access the file because I do not have permission. I tried to login as root, but that does not seem to work. The login prompt I am recieving is "localhost login: "when I enter root and the password it tells me incorrect login. I know the password is correct so am I also doing something wrong here? Please, any help would be very much appreciated. Wade
Re: [newbie] Error when trying to load KDE and Gnome
Okay, some progress. I managed to login as root. I think I was just logging in at the wrong place. Checked /var/log/messages. From there I found out that the sequence of messages leading up to the error was: 1. Jun 23 18:09:07 localhost kde3 (pam_unix)[12697]: session opened for user root by (uid=0) 2. Jun 23 18:09:07 [22437]: warning: can't get client address: transport endpoint is not connected 3. Jun 23 19:09:07 localhost xinetd[22437]:libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam from no address 4. Jun 23 18:09:07 localhostrc: stopping kheader succeeded The last 3 messages loop over and over with changes in the numbers but identical otherwise ( I tried to reproduce the messages as closely as possible, but they may vary slightly). These messages repeat until I reboot the system. Can any one decipher these and explain what is happening? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] System Still Hangs
I reinstalled Mandrake 9.1 in order to try to solve my login problems. I am booting from a floppy. When I boot, it gives me options of whether to load linux-secure, linux, failsafe, or windows. I have tried selecting both secure and just linux. The system loads and takes me to a text based login. Here I login and I am taken to the shell (Bash). I type KDE to try to boot the windowing system. A blue background comes up with an X shaped cursor. It then comes up with an initialization screen. This last for a few moments. The initialization screen disappears and the blue background remains. The hard drive continues to hum like it is working, but nothing ever happens. Does anyone have any suggestions? Also, I have considered trying to run Gnome instead, but because I am new to linux I do not know the command to start a Gnome session. Wade
Re: [newbie] System Still Hangs
Okay, when my system hangs I am able to press Alt Ctrl F1 to go back to the shell. From here if I push the Windows key on my keyboard I get a screen which seems to be logging current activity (does this make sense). It lists a series of errors. Unfortunately the errors go by so quickly that I am unable to see them. Is it possible to halt this screen, or to print it to a file? This might help me diagnose the problem. It appears that the error is probably the same one over and over. I am thinking that something is not configured correctly and the system is going into an infinite loop of trying and failing to perform some operation. Also, when I am back in the shell I have tried pressing Ctrl C to stop KDE from loading. This gives me a message saying something like "Unexpected signal 15". Nothing happens after that unless I press Ctrl C again at which point I am given a prompt again. However, the hard drive still hums as though the system is still hanging. If I then press the Windows key I am again given the error messages rapidly scrolling off the screen. I have tried to do a ps to see the process which is causing the hard drive to continue to work, but I don't see any process running which would account for that. Wade - Original Message - From: Wade Waldron To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 12:27 PM Subject: [newbie] System Still Hangs I reinstalled Mandrake 9.1 in order to try to solve my login problems. I am booting from a floppy. When I boot, it gives me options of whether to load linux-secure, linux, failsafe, or windows. I have tried selecting both secure and just linux. The system loads and takes me to a text based login. Here I login and I am taken to the shell (Bash). I type KDE to try to boot the windowing system. A blue background comes up with an X shaped cursor. It then comes up with an initialization screen. This last for a few moments. The initialization screen disappears and the blue background remains. The hard drive continues to hum like it is working, but nothing ever happens. Does anyone have any suggestions? Also, I have considered trying to run Gnome instead, but because I am new to linux I do not know the command to start a Gnome session. Wade
Re: [newbie] System Hangs on Login
Okay, I tried booting from CD. Pressing F1 takes me to a prompt that says boot. It also gives some suggestions. I typed rescue. From there it takes me to a menu which has options like installing bootloaders etc. I chose the option which gave me the console. From here I typed KDE. Nothing happened. I tried login, but all that did was refresh the screen. So I rebooted. I removed the CD. When my boot loader appeared I chose FailSafe. This brought me to a console where I entered the Root password. I then typed KDE. It started to load and then crashed. A long message popped up that said it could not find the default font - fixed. It also said something about connection being reset by peer etc. etc. So I am still stuck with nothing. Any more suggestions? Wade - Original Message - From: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] System Hangs on Login On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 10:36:46 -0600 Wade Waldron [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I have just installed Mandrake 9.1. Everything worked fine until I tried to login. I have tried loging in as a user and as root. In either case, the cursor displays the timer icon, my hardrive buzzes like it is working, but nothing ever happens. I have left it for a half an hour and nothing changes. I installed the KDE windowing system and am selecting it when I login. When I boot my system it give me options to use linux-secure, linux, and a few others. I have tried both linux-secure and linux. Neither works with root or a user login. Can anyone offer any suggestions? boot from the CD and hit F1 for options. what you want to try to do is get to a text-mode login, referred to as runlevel 3. From there, try starting KDE manually. Log in with your user and pass, then type kde at the prompt. -- + Joe Hill + Registered Linux user #282046 + Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net + ICQ# 279518458 + Don't believe the Hype! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
