Citrix Best Practices for Satellite Connections was RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Just came across this while searching for some other Best practice documents. http://support.citrix.com/article/ctx118256 Deployment Best Practices for Citrix XenApp over Hughes Satellite Networks Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? In Ken's defense, although we think of RT in terms of to the remote machine and back, it was not uncommon for the term within the satellite industry to mean up to the bird and back down. Particularly as early implementations were asymmetrical in that the head end would talk to the remote node via the sat, but the remote replies came back via analog modem. This you often spoke of each leg of the communication individually... But ya, I get what you mean. -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With all due respect, why would I care about to the satellite and back, I do NOT ever communicate with the satellite. I do not know of ANY VSAT customer that communicates with the satellite that would define round trip as did you. My round trip is to the node I communicate with. I though that would be obvious within the context of the discussion ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Me no likey you no more... Shook From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Terramark in Miami? From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And I must say, Sunbelt's DMZ is going to a kickin' colo. :) Andy Shook Senior Sales Engineer | Peak 10, Inc. 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive, Suite B, Charlotte, NC 28273 office: (704) 264-1078 fax: (704) 264-1075 mobile: (803) 517-2168 email: andy.sh...@peak10.com www.peak10.comhttp://www.peak10.com/?linkref=ES-01-PKTN-STND MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | CLOUD Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | South Florida | Tampa This message is intended only for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to other confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? * Billie Backhoe Strikes Again Oh well, it was not an underground cable, it was overhead, and it was a cherry picker. But still. A crew was adding cables nearby our office and their cherry picker got caught on the box that housed the fiber ring which services our downtown, and ripped it open. The truck seen in the pictures is from the Telecom repair team. They got there fast and were already working on it when we took the pictures. But when it rains it pours. So we lost our Time Warner Gig pipe, and on top 6 PRI Phone circuits, 1 FIOS internet connection and about 30 minutes ago we lost our Level 3 10 meg pipe. So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. It's -really- time to get that DMZ to a colo... http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/backhoe-incident-in-paradise.html - Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Now I wish _I_ woulda said that first. -sc From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Me no likey you no more... Shook From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Terramark in Miami? From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And I must say, Sunbelt's DMZ is going to a kickin' colo. :-) Andy Shook Senior Sales Engineer | Peak 10, Inc. 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive, Suite B, Charlotte, NC 28273 office: (704) 264-1078 fax: (704) 264-1075 mobile: (803) 517-2168 email: andy.sh...@peak10.com www.peak10.com http://www.peak10.com/?linkref=ES-01-PKTN-STND MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | CLOUD Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | South Florida | Tampa This message is intended only for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to other confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? * Billie Backhoe Strikes Again Oh well, it was not an underground cable, it was overhead, and it was a cherry picker. But still. A crew was adding cables nearby our office and their cherry picker got caught on the box that housed the fiber ring which services our downtown, and ripped it open. The truck seen in the pictures is from the Telecom repair team. They got there fast and were already working on it when we took the pictures. But when it rains it pours. So we lost our Time Warner Gig pipe, and on top 6 PRI Phone circuits, 1 FIOS internet connection and about 30 minutes ago we lost our Level 3 10 meg pipe. So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. It's -really- time to get that DMZ to a colo... http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/backhoe-incident-in-paradise.htm l - Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
blush Thanks! /blush TEC is the one conference that I attend (well, and maybe the MVP Summit) where I always learn more than I teach. Being able to have a beer or three with Exchange developers does wonders for figuring out those pesky little things that just don't seem to make sense sometimes... Brett Shirley's talk on the ESE Buffer Manager rocked! (Including the low-impact aerobics!) There were lots of excellent presentations on AD, Exchange, and SharePoint. I wish I had been able to attend more sessions myself. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And a very fine talk it was too. Complete with a diagram of a self healing fiber ring. I've got to say, you weren't wrong in recommending TEC. The level of expertise was simply astounding. ...Tim From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Can you say redundant AND diverse? :) I knew you could. (This particular issue was part of a talk I gave earlier this week at TEC'2010 on high availability.) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jeff Cain [mailto:je...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hey everyone, There was a major fiber cut that brought down our phone lines and internet access. During this time we were unable make/receive calls as well as emails. The problem has been resolved so we will be fine moving forward. The cut that happened was to 3 separate systems which included our backup internet connection. They all ran through this particular trunk that was taken out. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: supp...@sunbeltsoftware.commailto:supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-673-1153 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to listmana...@sunbelt-software.commailto:listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. Helpful Sunbelt Software Links: Knowledge Basehttp://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Open a New Support Tickethttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Support/Contact/ Sunbelt Software Product Support Communitieshttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/communities/ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Peak 10 in Atlanta ??? FYI, I went to the Grand Opening Ceremony for the 2nd Data Center in the Atlanta (Norcross) site, the actually room was built up inside/over the area where the reception party was for the orginal Grand Opening Ceremony a couple years back. Nice expansion, maybe time for me to talk to Matt again to see if there are any opportunities for me, hell, it’s barely 2 miles from my home !!! Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And I must say, Sunbelt’s DMZ is going to a kickin’ colo. J Andy Shook Senior Sales Engineer | Peak 10, Inc. 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive, Suite B, Charlotte, NC 28273 office: (704) 264-1078 fax: (704) 264-1075 mobile: (803) 517-2168 email: andy.sh...@peak10.com http://www.peak10.com/?linkref=ES-01-PKTN-STND www.peak10.com MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | CLOUD Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | South Florida | Tampa This message is intended only for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to other confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? * Billie Backhoe Strikes Again Oh well, it was not an underground cable, it was overhead, and it was a cherry picker. But still. A crew was adding cables nearby our office and their cherry picker got caught on the box that housed the fiber ring which services our downtown, and ripped it open. The truck seen in the pictures is from the Telecom repair team. They got there fast and were already working on it when we took the pictures. But when it rains it pours. So we lost our Time Warner Gig pipe, and on top 6 PRI Phone circuits, 1 FIOS internet connection and about 30 minutes ago we lost our Level 3 10 meg pipe. So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. It's -really- time to get that DMZ to a colo... http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/backhoe-incident-in-paradise.html - Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Citrix ICA, by default, will easily handle 500ms latency. There are settings to easily handle 750ms latency. i.e. XenDesktop 4 virtual images being delivered to the sandbox zones with a minimum 750ms latency. I can send you a couple of official and public Citrix PPTs if you like. Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
That was on a vpn tunnel. At the time it was the only access out where I live other than dialup. I know I saved myself a trip into work more than once. I don't ever want to go back to that. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Guessing that's a newer development/version of ICA since 2007, when I last asked the Citrix folks if they had a solution to the latency problem. Or maybe I was just asking the wrong folks ... Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Citrix ICA, by default, will easily handle 500ms latency. There are settings to easily handle 750ms latency. i.e. XenDesktop 4 virtual images being delivered to the sandbox zones with a minimum 750ms latency. I can send you a couple of official and public Citrix PPTs if you like. Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
VPN was particularly evil on Sat links... at least it was on ours where it broke the TCP optimization we did... -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? That was on a vpn tunnel. At the time it was the only access out where I live other than dialup. I know I saved myself a trip into work more than once. I don't ever want to go back to that. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt- software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Agreed. It's where I really learned how thruput is affected by both bandwidth and latency, with the latter affecting things FAR more than people think... even for terrestrial lines, and especially as bandwidth goes up, causing latency to become an increasingly large factor in the overall equation. -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' I've done it too, and yes, very painful and frustrating. Definitely better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, but if there were *any* other options for remote control, including dial-up ( maybe slow bandwidth but low latency ) I'd prefer that other choice. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
I'd be interested Carl. -sc -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Citrix ICA, by default, will easily handle 500ms latency. There are settings to easily handle 750ms latency. i.e. XenDesktop 4 virtual images being delivered to the sandbox zones with a minimum 750ms latency. I can send you a couple of official and public Citrix PPTs if you like. Carl Webster Citrix Technology Professional http://dabcc.com/Webster -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' I've done it too, and yes, very painful and frustrating. Definitely better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, but if there were *any* other options for remote control, including dial-up ( maybe slow bandwidth but low latency ) I'd prefer that other choice. -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Sounds about right... it had been a while since I had last cared about what the geostationary bird orbit height was :) Thanks. -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt- software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog
Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Dude, they said there would be no math today. - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:25 AM Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Sounds about right... it had been a while since I had last cared about what the geostationary bird orbit height was :) Thanks. -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt- software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
That's what I'm sayin'! -sc -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Dude, they said there would be no math today. - Original Message - From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:25 AM Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Sounds about right... it had been a while since I had last cared about what the geostationary bird orbit height was :) Thanks. -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt- software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
You are off by a factor of two on your round trip distance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Well it takes two round trips so 100,000 miles is about right. - Original Message - From: Jeff Cain je...@sunbelt-software.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:54 AM Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Haha, I knew someone was going to wiki that and point it out. I just didn't want to be That guy. =) Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-673-1153 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. Helpful Sunbelt Software Links: Knowledge Base Open a New Support Ticket Sunbelt Software Product Support Communities -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? You are off by a factor of two on your round trip distance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
How do you figure ??? ... if the orbital height is approx 22,000 to 26,000 miles, then 100,000 miles is a pretty close approximation as it takes 4 legs for a complete round trip : Outbound Uplink25,000 miles Outbound Downlink 25,000 Inbound Uplink25,000 Inbound Downlink 25,000 100,000 miles total Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? You are off by a factor of two on your round trip distance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Chevy Chase as Gerald Ford: Um, I was led to believe that there would be no math... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? How do you figure ??? ... if the orbital height is approx 22,000 to 26,000 miles, then 100,000 miles is a pretty close approximation as it takes 4 legs for a complete round trip : Outbound Uplink25,000 miles Outbound Downlink 25,000 Inbound Uplink25,000 Inbound Downlink 25,000 100,000 miles total Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? You are off by a factor of two on your round trip distance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans
Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Gerald Ford as Gerald Ford. FORE! On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Chevy Chase as Gerald Ford: Um, I was led to believe that there would be no math... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? How do you figure ??? ... if the orbital height is approx 22,000 to 26,000 miles, then 100,000 miles is a pretty close approximation as it takes 4 legs for a complete round trip : Outbound Uplink25,000 miles Outbound Downlink 25,000 Inbound Uplink25,000 Inbound Downlink 25,000 100,000 miles total Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? You are off by a factor of two on your round trip distance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Chevy Chase as Gerald Ford (again): *CRASH*SMACK*KLANG*BOOM* -sc From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Gerald Ford as Gerald Ford. FORE! On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Chevy Chase as Gerald Ford: Um, I was led to believe that there would be no math... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? How do you figure ??? ... if the orbital height is approx 22,000 to 26,000 miles, then 100,000 miles is a pretty close approximation as it takes 4 legs for a complete round trip : Outbound Uplink25,000 miles Outbound Downlink 25,000 Inbound Uplink25,000 Inbound Downlink 25,000 100,000 miles total Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? You are off by a factor of two on your round trip distance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
It depends on how you define round trip. I was thinking in terms of a round trip meaning to the satellite and back. But, you are correct in that a ping packet would travel 100,000 miles round trip from client to host to client. -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? How do you figure ??? ... if the orbital height is approx 22,000 to 26,000 miles, then 100,000 miles is a pretty close approximation as it takes 4 legs for a complete round trip : Outbound Uplink25,000 miles Outbound Downlink 25,000 Inbound Uplink25,000 Inbound Downlink 25,000 100,000 miles total Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? You are off by a factor of two on your round trip distance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
With all due respect, why would I care about to the satellite and back, I do NOT ever communicate with the satellite. I do not know of ANY VSAT customer that communicates with the satellite that would define round trip as did you. My round trip is to the node I communicate with. I though that would be obvious within the context of the discussion ... Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? It depends on how you define round trip. I was thinking in terms of a round trip meaning to the satellite and back. But, you are correct in that a ping packet would travel 100,000 miles round trip from client to host to client. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
I figure I didn't take into account the other two trips. =P My only excuse is that it's Friday. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-673-1153 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. Helpful Sunbelt Software Links: Knowledge Base Open a New Support Ticket Sunbelt Software Product Support Communities -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? It depends on how you define round trip. I was thinking in terms of a round trip meaning to the satellite and back. But, you are correct in that a ping packet would travel 100,000 miles round trip from client to host to client. -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? How do you figure ??? ... if the orbital height is approx 22,000 to 26,000 miles, then 100,000 miles is a pretty close approximation as it takes 4 legs for a complete round trip : Outbound Uplink25,000 miles Outbound Downlink 25,000 Inbound Uplink25,000 Inbound Downlink 25,000 100,000 miles total Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? You are off by a factor of two on your round trip distance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geosynchronous_orbit -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Quick approximations : Speed of light is 186,000 miles per second. Round-trip distance of VSAT is approx 100,000 miles ( up-down-up-back ) The mechanisms of the network always add to slow the theoretical max speed So I stick with my 600-700ms best case scenario Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hmm, that's about double what I remember, but maybe I was thinking of single-leg latency. Too busy to do the math on a Friday. :) -sc -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Same here. very painful. 1500 ms ping times with HughesNet -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hehe... I've done it. It's painful. But better than having to book a plane ticket for emergencies. Actually, TightVNC with local cursor update was bearable... -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With anything bird based, you'll never get less than about 600-700ms latency as a best case scenario, and then latency delays get worse from there. Don't even bother trying to use Citrix ICA or Terminal Server RDP over a VSAT link Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You
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In Ken's defense, although we think of RT in terms of to the remote machine and back, it was not uncommon for the term within the satellite industry to mean up to the bird and back down. Particularly as early implementations were asymmetrical in that the head end would talk to the remote node via the sat, but the remote replies came back via analog modem. This you often spoke of each leg of the communication individually... But ya, I get what you mean. -sc -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? With all due respect, why would I care about to the satellite and back, I do NOT ever communicate with the satellite. I do not know of ANY VSAT customer that communicates with the satellite that would define round trip as did you. My round trip is to the node I communicate with. I though that would be obvious within the context of the discussion ... Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? It depends on how you define round trip. I was thinking in terms of a round trip meaning to the satellite and back. But, you are correct in that a ping packet would travel 100,000 miles round trip from client to host to client. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:kandy.luk...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now…it was down earlier… *Jay Dale* I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com kandy.luk...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] *Sent:* Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* www.Sunbelt-software.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/down? Can't there from here…anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Yeah... JUST came back up... Their websites, their AV updates, their phones... WTF? From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com mailto:kandy.luk...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com . . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now…it was down earlier… Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Can't there from here…anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com http://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
There is so much construction going on over on that side of the bay, someone probably tore up a city block. Someone nailed a main fiber over on that side of the bay a couple weeks ago that took out Verizon customer for 3 days. Knowing Sunbelt they are identifying where any failover issues are and working to make sure it doesn't happen again. From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com http://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Civic malware. -Original Message- From: Tammy [mailto:copper...@personainternet.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? W()()()()T! Back up. Seems it was an underground cable that was severed that caused the outage. Don't have any other details. Call before ya dig!!! :) Regards, Tammy Stewart Malware Removal Specialist Sunbelt Software ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Hey everyone, There was a major fiber cut that brought down our phone lines and internet access. During this time we were unable make/receive calls as well as emails. The problem has been resolved so we will be fine moving forward. The cut that happened was to 3 separate systems which included our backup internet connection. They all ran through this particular trunk that was taken out. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: supp...@sunbeltsoftware.commailto:supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-673-1153 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to listmana...@sunbelt-software.commailto:listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. Helpful Sunbelt Software Links: Knowledge Basehttp://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Open a New Support Tickethttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Support/Contact/ Sunbelt Software Product Support Communitieshttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/communities/ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
* Billie Backhoe Strikes Again Oh well, it was not an underground cable, it was overhead, and it was a cherry picker. But still. A crew was adding cables nearby our office and their cherry picker got caught on the box that housed the fiber ring which services our downtown, and ripped it open. The truck seen in the pictures is from the Telecom repair team. They got there fast and were already working on it when we took the pictures. But when it rains it pours. So we lost our Time Warner Gig pipe, and on top 6 PRI Phone circuits, 1 FIOS internet connection and about 30 minutes ago we lost our Level 3 10 meg pipe. So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. It's -really- time to get that DMZ to a colo... http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/backhoe-incident-in-paradise.html - Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Can you say redundant AND diverse? :) I knew you could. (This particular issue was part of a talk I gave earlier this week at TEC'2010 on high availability.) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jeff Cain [mailto:je...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hey everyone, There was a major fiber cut that brought down our phone lines and internet access. During this time we were unable make/receive calls as well as emails. The problem has been resolved so we will be fine moving forward. The cut that happened was to 3 separate systems which included our backup internet connection. They all ran through this particular trunk that was taken out. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: supp...@sunbeltsoftware.commailto:supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-673-1153 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to listmana...@sunbelt-software.commailto:listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. Helpful Sunbelt Software Links: Knowledge Basehttp://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Open a New Support Tickethttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Support/Contact/ Sunbelt Software Product Support Communitieshttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/communities/ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Well, if the lists were down, how is Stu supposed to respond? Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/29/2010 11:33 AM And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now…it was down earlier… *Jay Dale* I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com kandy.luk...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] *Sent:* Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* www.Sunbelt-software.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/down? Can't there from here…anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
I was just thinking that backup systems in the same ditch as your primary is probably not a good idea... Glad you're back up :) Jeff Cain je...@sunbelt-software.com 4/29/2010 12:06 PM Hey everyone, There was a major fiber cut that brought down our phone lines and internet access. During this time we were unable make/receive calls as well as emails. The problem has been resolved so we will be fine moving forward. The cut that happened was to 3 separate systems which included our backup internet connection. They all ran through this particular trunk that was taken out. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: supp...@sunbeltsoftware.commailto:supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-673-1153 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to listmana...@sunbelt-software.commailto:listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. Helpful Sunbelt Software Links: Knowledge Basehttp://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Open a New Support Tickethttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Support/Contact/ Sunbelt Software Product Support Communitieshttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/communities/ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Dang! That sucks! Guess you guys oughta investigate an alternative internet connection that doesn't flow through that one pipe! J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Jeff Cain [mailto:je...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hey everyone, There was a major fiber cut that brought down our phone lines and internet access. During this time we were unable make/receive calls as well as emails. The problem has been resolved so we will be fine moving forward. The cut that happened was to 3 separate systems which included our backup internet connection. They all ran through this particular trunk that was taken out. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: mailto:supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-673-1153 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to mailto:listmana...@sunbelt-software.com listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. Helpful Sunbelt Software Links: http://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Knowledge Base http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Support/Contact/ Open a New Support Ticket http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/communities/ Sunbelt Software Product Support Communities From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? _ From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now.it was down earlier. Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here.anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com http://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
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Doesn't that always seem to be the case? :) Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: Jeff Cain [mailto:je...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hey everyone, There was a major fiber cut that brought down our phone lines and internet access. During this time we were unable make/receive calls as well as emails. The problem has been resolved so we will be fine moving forward. The cut that happened was to 3 separate systems which included our backup internet connection. They all ran through this particular trunk that was taken out. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: supp...@sunbeltsoftware.commailto:supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-673-1153 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to listmana...@sunbelt-software.commailto:listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. Helpful Sunbelt Software Links: Knowledge Basehttp://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Open a New Support Tickethttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Support/Contact/ Sunbelt Software Product Support Communitieshttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/communities/ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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The same way I sent this email, when the list was up?! :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: Well, if the lists were down, how is Stu supposed to respond? Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com 4/29/2010 11:33 AM And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now…it was down earlier… *Jay Dale* I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com kandy.luk...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] *Sent:* Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* www.Sunbelt-software.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/down? Can't there from here…anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
And I must say, Sunbelt's DMZ is going to a kickin' colo. :) Andy Shook Senior Sales Engineer | Peak 10, Inc. 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive, Suite B, Charlotte, NC 28273 office: (704) 264-1078 fax: (704) 264-1075 mobile: (803) 517-2168 email: andy.sh...@peak10.com www.peak10.comhttp://www.peak10.com/?linkref=ES-01-PKTN-STND MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | CLOUD Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | South Florida | Tampa This message is intended only for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to other confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? * Billie Backhoe Strikes Again Oh well, it was not an underground cable, it was overhead, and it was a cherry picker. But still. A crew was adding cables nearby our office and their cherry picker got caught on the box that housed the fiber ring which services our downtown, and ripped it open. The truck seen in the pictures is from the Telecom repair team. They got there fast and were already working on it when we took the pictures. But when it rains it pours. So we lost our Time Warner Gig pipe, and on top 6 PRI Phone circuits, 1 FIOS internet connection and about 30 minutes ago we lost our Level 3 10 meg pipe. So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. It's -really- time to get that DMZ to a colo... http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/backhoe-incident-in-paradise.html - Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Hmm. Wonder what Colo that could be. anything to do with a certain list member's job, Shook? ;-) John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And I must say, Sunbelt's DMZ is going to a kickin' colo. J Andy Shook Senior Sales Engineer | Peak 10, Inc. 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive, Suite B, Charlotte, NC 28273 office: (704) 264-1078 fax: (704) 264-1075 mobile: (803) 517-2168 email: andy.sh...@peak10.com http://www.peak10.com/?linkref=ES-01-PKTN-STND www.peak10.com MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | CLOUD Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | South Florida | Tampa This message is intended only for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to other confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? * Billie Backhoe Strikes Again Oh well, it was not an underground cable, it was overhead, and it was a cherry picker. But still. A crew was adding cables nearby our office and their cherry picker got caught on the box that housed the fiber ring which services our downtown, and ripped it open. The truck seen in the pictures is from the Telecom repair team. They got there fast and were already working on it when we took the pictures. But when it rains it pours. So we lost our Time Warner Gig pipe, and on top 6 PRI Phone circuits, 1 FIOS internet connection and about 30 minutes ago we lost our Level 3 10 meg pipe. So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. It's -really- time to get that DMZ to a colo... http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/backhoe-incident-in-paradise.html - Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? _ From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now.it was down earlier. Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.com http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here.anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com http://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
Terramark in Miami? From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And I must say, Sunbelt's DMZ is going to a kickin' colo. J Andy Shook Senior Sales Engineer | Peak 10, Inc. 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive, Suite B, Charlotte, NC 28273 office: (704) 264-1078 fax: (704) 264-1075 mobile: (803) 517-2168 email: andy.sh...@peak10.com www.peak10.com MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | CLOUD Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | South Florida | Tampa This message is intended only for the designated recipient(s). It may contain confidential or proprietary information and may be subject to other confidentiality protections. If you are not a designated recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you receive this in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message. From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? * Billie Backhoe Strikes Again Oh well, it was not an underground cable, it was overhead, and it was a cherry picker. But still. A crew was adding cables nearby our office and their cherry picker got caught on the box that housed the fiber ring which services our downtown, and ripped it open. The truck seen in the pictures is from the Telecom repair team. They got there fast and were already working on it when we took the pictures. But when it rains it pours. So we lost our Time Warner Gig pipe, and on top 6 PRI Phone circuits, 1 FIOS internet connection and about 30 minutes ago we lost our Level 3 10 meg pipe. So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. It's -really- time to get that DMZ to a colo... http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/backhoe-incident-in-paradise.html - Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? -- From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Link To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now.it was down earlier. Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Can't there from here.anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.com . . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! - Original Message - From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: So we were 3 for 3 with internet services going down for a little while there. Thanks for the info, Stu. Sharing info is good. You may want to look into fixed-wireless connectivity. Here at %WORK%, we have two 'net feeds. One is an ordinary Comcast cable Internet feed. The other is fixed-wireless, provider is a local ISP. Antenna on our roof goes to a tower at the top of a local hill. From that station they can hop to their local office a few towns over. From there they have landlines to two different major providers. The local ISP even has plans to go wireless from their local office to their POP in Boston, about 50 miles away. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:27 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote: To hell with fixed wireless get an earth station installed! I've tried it. Latency is unimaginably bad. As in, you can measure ping round trip time with a wrist watch. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down?
And a very fine talk it was too. Complete with a diagram of a self healing fiber ring. I've got to say, you weren't wrong in recommending TEC. The level of expertise was simply astounding. ...Tim From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Can you say redundant AND diverse? :) I knew you could. (This particular issue was part of a talk I gave earlier this week at TEC'2010 on high availability.) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jeff Cain [mailto:je...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Hey everyone, There was a major fiber cut that brought down our phone lines and internet access. During this time we were unable make/receive calls as well as emails. The problem has been resolved so we will be fine moving forward. The cut that happened was to 3 separate systems which included our backup internet connection. They all ran through this particular trunk that was taken out. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email: supp...@sunbeltsoftware.commailto:supp...@sunbeltsoftware.com Voice: 1-877-673-1153 Fax: 1-727-562-5199 Web: http://www.sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Physical Address: 33 N Garden Ave Suite 1200 Clearwater, FL 33755 United States If you do not want further email from us, please forward this message to listmana...@sunbelt-software.commailto:listmana...@sunbelt-software.com with the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject of your email. Helpful Sunbelt Software Links: Knowledge Basehttp://support.sunbeltsoftware.com/ Open a New Support Tickethttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Support/Contact/ Sunbelt Software Product Support Communitieshttp://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/communities/ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? Seems they may have all their eggs in one basket? Their websites, as well as AV definitions point here: 64.128.133.140 Matter of fact: wxpnews.net, w2knews.com, wxpnews.com, stusnews.com, win7news.net and at least 66 other hosts point to 64.128.133.140 Is that best practice? From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.com down? not only that but their friggin phones were down as well!!! - Original Message - From: Jonathan Linkmailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: Re: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.Sunbelt-software.com down? And the lists appeared to be down as well. What happened Stu? :-) On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Jay Dale jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com wrote: Working now...it was down earlier... Jay Dale I.T. Manager, 3GiG Mobile: 713.299.2541 Email: jay.d...@3-gig.commailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: www.Sunbelt-software.comhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ down? Can't there from here...anyone? Also can't get to sunbeltsoftware.comhttp://sunbeltsoftware.com/ . . ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~